"I'm Done. I might come back. I don't know."

[Yesterdays Hero]

Glad he walked out. He had more than a valid reason to.

What was the question Op asked Steve before the headphones were thrown? Didn't make it out.

Fucking lawyers.

[Bralio]

oh hell what'd I miss...

[Pearce]

I think it was Steve saying that the guy refused to pick up the phone anymore that made Opie snap.

[YourName34]

Grrrrrrrrr, I missed it what happened?

[unknownmerc]

Wasn't there a problem with anal beads?

[ruckstande]

I wish Anthony would have walked out too. How about some solidarity?

[Beeman99]

was today the last day before holidays?

[Yesterdays Hero]

What Happend:

The boys were going to have Stalker Atrophyvag put anal beads into her bottom for some coin. The lawyers called Steve and told him that they boys weren't allowed to do it, because it's against coporate policy (*spits*).

After being a twat on the phone with not giving a reason to the question of "Why not?", the lawyer put did the old "fingers in the ears and sing really loud" and hung up instead of nutting up and explaining it.

Op asked Steve to call him back, Steve said he's not answering even though the walking abortion was listening to the show. Op threw his headphones down and said "I'm done.". Silence ensued. He threw the mic away from him, stood up, said "I might be back, I don't know." and walked off the show.

Ant and Jim kind of finished the show 2 man style, not overly acknowledging what happend.

I missed the question Op asked Steve, hence the thread.

Goddam lawyers.

[Cunta Kinte]

Its a bit...

If they were really that pissed off about the lawyers, among other things, they wouldn't collect a paycheck. Instead, they're millionaires and want complete control, which will never happen.

They spend way to much fucking time bitching about lawyers on air, they know what they can and cannot do, its that simple, get over it.

[mikeybot]

Fuckheads like Cunta Kinte make me glad there's an ignore function.
Welcome to it buddy

[LDO]

Its a bit...

If they were really that pissed off about the lawyers, among other things, they wouldn't collect a paycheck. Instead, they're millionaires and want complete control, which will never happen.

They spend way to much fucking time bitching about lawyers on air, they know what they can and cannot do, its that simple, get over it.

YEAH , I mean why fight to be able to do what they want on an 'uncensored' format?

What whiny bitches, not liking to be told what they can and cannot do to entertain their audience by people who have no idea about what makes a show fun to listeners.

[ImSalty]

they all should have walked out and left the microphones live and broadcast dead air until 11:45 or whenever the master computer shuts them off

[Jims Rottweiler]

Opie was right to walk. Sirius has totally fucked up the show. How about letting the boys do their show? Putting gags and handcuffs on them is just idiotic, but who said Sirius has intelligent management. Sirius is just like every other fucking corporation. They suck balls. I hope Opie goes to meet with that asshole pulls the anal beads out of Patti's ass and shoves them down his throat. What a dick.

[Cunta Kinte]

YEAH , I mean why fight to be able to do what they want on an 'uncensored' format?

What whiny bitches, not liking to be told what they can and cannot do to entertain their audience by people who have no idea about what makes a show fun to listeners.

The fact remains that they have been "Fighting" for years and haven't won a single battle. If they wanted to "fight" to get an uncensored show, they would just walk out and refuse to work until things changed. Which would mean they wouldn't collect a paycheck and would probably be replaced.

Bitching about faceless CBS/Sirius lawyers on air does nothing for the listeners or the show.

[Beeman99]

Its a bit...

If they were really that pissed off about the lawyers, among other things, they wouldn't collect a paycheck. Instead, they're millionaires and want complete control, which will never happen.

They spend way to much fucking time bitching about lawyers on air, they know what they can and cannot do, its that simple, get over it.

Do they know what the can and can not do College Boy???

Let's see, Egg Nog Challenge, Sidewalk Fishing, Wifflebat Challenge, Homeless shopping spree (which will suck this year due to the lawyers), etc etc, are all bits that they used to be able to do, but can't now due to the lawyers.

Funny how Hoo Hoo always bitched about the FCC, but the bboys never do, it's always about the lawyers. Seems to me that the boys at least have the balls to call out the company, and not the government, over shit they can't do.

[DonTheTrucker]

Its a bit...

If they were really that pissed off about the lawyers, among other things, they wouldn't collect a paycheck. Instead, they're millionaires and want complete control, which will never happen.

They spend way to much fucking time bitching about lawyers on air, they know what they can and cannot do, its that simple, get over it.

I'm pretty sure you're just trying to troll, but you stumbled upon a good point.

They want total control. Anyone in that business does. They'll never get it. This is also true. But why should they accept that? If they give up on something stupid like doing sex stuff, next goes certain words. Its a chain reaction that can't be allowed to happen.


I hate stuff like they were trying to do today. Chicks on the radio is hack. But if we lose that, next go the racist jokes. Then goes something else and so on until we end up with a zoo show.

[Cunta Kinte]

Two things, if they drew a big enough audience to justify their paychecks or "hype" they would get away with a lot more. Its that simple, Howard could probably shoot a snuff film in studio, live and not have a problem, until O&A start pulling their weight on either format, they will have to deal with this shit.

If we're discussing the quality of the show, what does bitching about the lawyers do for them or the listeners? Nothing

[Cunta Kinte]

Do they know what the can and can not do College Boy???

Let's see, Egg Nog Challenge, Sidewalk Fishing, Wifflebat Challenge, Homeless shopping spree (which will suck this year due to the lawyers), etc etc, are all bits that they used to be able to do, but can't now due to the lawyers.

Funny how Hoo Hoo always bitched about the FCC, but the bboys never do, it's always about the lawyers. Seems to me that the boys at least have the balls to call out the company, and not the government, over shit they can't do.

Things change, you're referencing stuff from years ago, when in todays PC climate none of it flies.

Like ive said and will continue to say, the only way to really protest the overbearing lawyers would to:

- Stop taking a paycheck, get on as many FM stations as possible and crusade for better radio.
- Walk out on the XM show and don't come back unless a certain agreement is made.

Both result in a loss of cash, so neither will be done. On the other hand they have just chosen to bitch about it on air for four years, not changing anything in the process and never getting any lawyers fired.

[Three Hole Puncher]

Things change, you're referencing stuff from years ago, when in todays PC climate none of it flies.

Like ive said and will continue to say, the only way to really protest the overbearing lawyers would to:

- Stop taking a paycheck, get on as many FM stations as possible and crusade for better radio.
- Walk out on the XM show and don't come back unless a certain agreement is made.

Both result in a loss of cash, so neither will be done. On the other hand they have just chosen to bitch about it on air for four years, not changing anything in the process and never getting any lawyers fired.

Look at the fancy college boy, practicing for the debate team. Beat it, Poindexter... working men are talking here.

[Hog's Big Ben]

Two things, if they drew a big enough audience to justify their paychecks or "hype" they would get away with a lot more. Its that simple, Howard could probably shoot a snuff film in studio, live and not have a problem, until O&A start pulling their weight on either format, they will have to deal with this shit.


Nah. We found out today the Sybian is another scam Howie's been perpetrating on his listeners. I guess O&A could just fake it... :icon_roll

[Earth2murf]

must listen to replay

[Pearce]

Cunta Kinte seems to not like the show at all. Why is he on an O&A fan site?

[Beeman99]

Things change, you're referencing stuff from years ago, when in todays PC climate none of it flies.

Like ive said and will continue to say, the only way to really protest the overbearing lawyers would to:

- Stop taking a paycheck, get on as many FM stations as possible and crusade for better radio.
- Walk out on the XM show and don't come back unless a certain agreement is made.

Both result in a loss of cash, so neither will be done. On the other hand they have just chosen to bitch about it on air for four years, not changing anything in the process and never getting any lawyers fired.

I agree in a degree. But I'd do the opposite, fuck Free Fm and stick with XM. It doesn't bother me that some of the shit they used to do they can't anymore, I just listen to the old stuff if I want to hear it. All media as well as our culture as a whole has changed, better or worse, since they first started on XM. Just the course of things, and it does suck, but oh well.

I do find it amusing though when they do bitch about the lawyers though. Sure, it won't get anything done, but there is some self satisfaction that has to come from it

[Hudson]

Hey I can finally say it and mean it!:
I blame the Jews!

[Spackle McJeans]

I don't mind the girl stuff on the radio, it always makes me laugh when others hear it.

[Cunta Kinte]

Cunta Kinte seems to not like the show at all. Why is he on an O&A fan site?


The show is entertaining when-

- The boys don't bitch about lawyers, they've been better lately but not by much.

- They don't pretend to be regular joes, especially when they're pulling in $3
mill a year from the CBS side alone.

The "fans" and the boys always bitch about dishonest radio, yet they're usually in the shit themselves.

aka you can still be a fan and offer criticism.

[Cunta Kinte]

I agree in a degree. But I'd do the opposite, fuck Free Fm and stick with XM. It doesn't bother me that some of the shit they used to do they can't anymore, I just listen to the old stuff if I want to hear it. All media as well as our culture as a whole has changed, better or worse, since they first started on XM. Just the course of things, and it does suck, but oh well.

I do find it amusing though when they do bitch about the lawyers though. Sure, it won't get anything done, but there is some self satisfaction that has to come from it

Heres the difference, if they're only on satellite, they reach a far smaller base. If they truly want to "Save" radio and change things, charge nothing for syndication and they will become more known, get more listeners and more listeners will go to satellite to hear the rest of the show.

Giving a small discount for syndication rights and not getting good ratings in smaller markets doesn't go over well, no matter how they spin it.

[blacknoi]

Funny how Hoo Hoo always bitched about the FCC, but the bboys never do, it's always about the lawyers. Seems to me that the boys at least have the balls to call out the company, and not the government, over shit they can't do.

What entertainment, as a fan, do I get out of hearing them bitch about lawyers? Personally, I get NONE.

Please put on an entertaining show and leave the bitching for behind the scenes.

And I don't want to hear the "honest radio" argument, because there's been many times that I've heard things come out of O and A's show that was definitely spin. Its a show, so of course they want to make things sound better if they aren't that good. "treding upward" anyone?

And honestly, to get back to the original point, I highly doubt that Stalker Patti + anal beads would have been "radio gold."

[Dickieboy]

How are all those Pro - Merger listeners now ??

[blacknoi]

How are all those Pro - Merger listeners now ??

Not to get off topic, but IMO, if the merger didn't happen NEITHER company was going to last long-term. Yes the stock for SiriusXM is bad right now, but as separate companies, it would have been DIRE.

[Big Dick Mcgee]

I'm done with this company. My sub is up soon. When it is I'll get the show from some other source. I can't pay for this shit any more.

[Fr. Dougal]

Cunta Kinte seems to not like the show at all. Why is he on an O&A fan site?

Why, because he's not a sheep? Seems like there's a lot of hoo hoo-style lemmings lately. (Not an attack on you personally, just noticing that lately there seems to be a ton of the "boys-can-do-no-wrong" crowd.)

[RobeSoup&Tears]

Sorry...not a bit.

Although I missed this I know the passion that Op has for wanting to steer the show where he feels it should go...and I trust his judgement.

The Boys do get double standards.
Let's face it, Hoo Hoo wouldn't get this treatment and he has (or had...not sure) a vibrating dildo machine that holes would straddle for plee-a-sure.

It would be nice to go on another pesty mission...they brings the funny.

Go Op...Just say the word Sir.

[Dumfuk]

Cunta Kinte, Are you going to now tell us how 9/11 was an inside job? GO fuck your mother.

[FellowTraveler]

The show is entertaining for me when-

- The boys don't bitch about lawyers, they've been better lately but not by much.

- They don't pretend to be regular joes, especially when they're pulling in $3
mill a year from the CBS side alone.

The "fans" and the boys always bitch about dishonest radio, yet they're usually in the shit themselves.

aka you can still be a fan and offer criticism.

Fixed that for you.

[theodore wax]

It's funny how 99% of this forum is unable to accept any criticism of the show.

[pnigga]

Why, because he's not a sheep? Seems like there's a lot of hoo hoo-style lemmings lately. (Not an attack on you personally, just noticing that lately there seems to be a ton of the "boys-can-do-no-wrong" crowd.)

the Father makes a valid point

[fandango86]

I'm thinking the issue is that Howard could have a p0rn chick or Richard do anal beads without an issue. O&A should have the same rules as Howard, but they don't because of the stupid Condi Rice thing. I've only listened to Howard a few times since turning on the Best of Sirius, but he's done some pretty vile stuff, and I've never heard Gary chime in and say 'The lawyers are on the phone - we can't do that.' So there's only a few possibilities:

- Steve is a pussy and Gary is not
- Howard's show is uncensored. O&A's is not
- Howard and Gary are more prepared than Opie and Steve and know in advance what they can and can't do instead of finding out while they're on the air.

Take your pick - blame Steve for being a pussy, blame Sirius for being inconsistent, or blame Opie for not doing show prep.

[SpookyMulder]

I have NO PROBLEM paying for the show. BUT, I ain't gonna pay jewboy Mel. If I'm gonna pay anyone, it'll be the boys DIRECTLY. Now I gotta figure out how much money, since they started on sat radio would I had to spend on a script and no that don't include the physical radio.

[kramer0419]

Things change, you're referencing stuff from years ago, when in todays PC climate none of it flies.

Like ive said and will continue to say, the only way to really protest the overbearing lawyers would to:

- Stop taking a paycheck, get on as many FM stations as possible and crusade for better radio.
- Walk out on the XM show and don't come back unless a certain agreement is made.

Both result in a loss of cash, so neither will be done. On the other hand they have just chosen to bitch about it on air for four years, not changing anything in the process and never getting any lawyers fired.

In this PC climate of today? You do realize this is why the boys went over to satellite right? It's Pay radio, people pay to be able to listen to it. There station HAS A FUCKING XL RATING. If thats not enough then fuck the listener if they are offended. You really are an annoying little fuck. If you wanna play devils advocate for the company do it with a mouth full of aids needles.

[kramer0419]

The show is entertaining when-

- The boys don't bitch about lawyers, they've been better lately but not by much.

- They don't pretend to be regular joes, especially when they're pulling in $3
mill a year from the CBS side alone.

The "fans" and the boys always bitch about dishonest radio, yet they're usually in the shit themselves.

aka you can still be a fan and offer criticism.

yeah you can offer criticism but, when the criticism is for them to just lay down and take this shit,how can you expect fans not to be upset. has that ever been there style, they've had too much stuff taken away they used to be radio gold.

Why, because he's not a sheep? Seems like there's a lot of hoo hoo-style lemmings lately. (Not an attack on you personally, just noticing that lately there seems to be a ton of the "boys-can-do-no-wrong" crowd.)

It's not so much "the boys can do no wrong" It's that it's a legitimate complaint on Opie's part and should be as a fan, if you don't like the lawyer talk turn the show off. I don't like some of the guests. I move on I don't trash the people who like him.

It's funny how 99% of this forum is unable to accept any criticism of the show.

It's not criticism, it's this particular criticism If shit like this continues( no WBC, no HSS, The charlie incident. no fucking with interns, now this) Eventually it's gonna be, no yelling at the callers, No making fun of minorites, no making fun of anyone in the government. It will become a shit show.

[Save My Up's Dick]

I wish Anthony would have walked out too. How about some solidarity?
:clap:
Where's the teamwork? They all should have left, they all should stick together. One guy leaves means nothing to management

they all should have walked out and left the microphones live and broadcast dead air until 11:45 or whenever the master computer shuts them off
Exactly, would have been hysterical and would have proven Opies point.

[pezones]

It's funny how 99% of this forum is unable to accept any criticism of the show.

it seems thats all this forum does recently

:clap:
Where's the teamwork? They all should have left, they all should stick together. One guy leaves means nothing to management


Exactly, would have been hysterical and would have proven Opies point.

how about they like having jobs.


rubes.

[Ziti Lo Mein]

If this happened on the xm part of the show then thats really stupid. If its meant to be more uncensored then these types of things should be allowed. The reason behind the lawyers decision is probably the same reason they cracked down on the interns doing stuff - they're afraid one intern is gonna ruin it and sue the company over harassment. There is no question that they do cross that line alot on the show, but if the people involved are willing to participate then that shouldn't be an issue.

They should just have the people participating sign a waver beforehand and thats that~ Then if a lawsuit is brought up the lawyers have that piece of paper showing the person agreed to this. Don't ruin the product just because the company is afraid to lose some money.

Also, yes. A more effective protest would have been *all* of them walking off while on air. Sometimes you have to take chances like that to put a point across. But more than likely its like "We all finally got to a point where we're syndicated and making nice money. I don't want to risk my job by trying to make a point that might not even make much of a difference!"

[Gonzoid]

I actually agree in part with Don...most of the shit they can't do b/c of lawyers is stuff I do not find interesting anyway. ENOUGH of Patti, she has no self worth and wants the attention of being humiliated on-air, it has been done ad nausem.

That beings aid, Opie though had every riht to get pissed and walk out. I think actually it may have been just a cumulative effect of Sirius censoring them combined with the neutering of their show on FM. Unfortunately, our boys are not in a real great spot in either station. FM is going through massive financial difficulties and they haeve already been dropped from just about all of the stations save a handful they started with. There is no guarantee they will be renewed with FM when the contract comes up (don;t forget they had very good ratings in Philly, Boston, Buffalo and Cleveland before they were yanked there as well). And who the hell knows what satellites future is when they hemmorage money the way they do. there is not no long term stability with either company which forces them to play along with the rules as they change on management's whim.

And yeah, I may not like the stunts they no longer can do, but what will stop the management from censoring their content and words next? Bad times, man.

[oandapartycock]

Do they know what the can and can not do College Boy???

Let's see, Egg Nog Challenge, Sidewalk Fishing, Wifflebat Challenge, Homeless shopping spree (which will suck this year due to the lawyers), etc etc, are all bits that they used to be able to do, but can't now due to the lawyers.

Funny how Hoo Hoo always bitched about the FCC, but the bboys never do, it's always about the lawyers. Seems to me that the boys at least have the balls to call out the company, and not the government, over shit they can't do.

And those are all bits they did on TERRESTRIAL radio (eggnog?). I know the country has gone PC crazy, but like was pointed out, Howie gets away with more still.

Heres the difference, if they're only on satellite, they reach a far smaller base. If they truly want to "Save" radio and change things, charge nothing for syndication and they will become more known, get more listeners and more listeners will go to satellite to hear the rest of the show.

Ummm, it's already been made very clear that Mel doesn't want to share talent. I doubt he would allow it to be given away for nothing. O&A aren't really executive producers of their own show, SiriusXM owns them. Howard probably got a lot more creative control in his contract because he was in a far bigger bargaining position when he signed.

I think what the Boys need to do is just do the bits they want without contacting the lawyers first and call their bluff. SiriusXM is in no position right now to challenge any kind of talent. Fucking Bubba just got a two year deal after publicly trashing Sirius ON THE AIR ten days ago.

[cokelogic]

I'm done with this company. My sub is up soon. When it is I'll get the show from some other source. I can't pay for this shit any more.Are you going to subscribe to the other satellite company... oh, that's right. There's only one options now. ;)

I'm so glad that Ant ran down the list of this they can't do and I'm so glad Opie had enough and walked out. Because the lawyers are now ruining the show. Not just holding it back or watering it down, but fucking ruining it.

Does Sirius know we can organize a cancellation protest to cancel hundreds of thousands of subs in a week? How would that look for the company in this awful economy?

[Yesterdays Hero]

Uncensored radio, is censored. Won't change until a corporation is made that push Uncensored, the way it's touted.

It's also a double standard in regards of HooHoo vs OnA. Given HooHoo is the lil' darling of Sirius, it should be no surprise that he gets more slack than the boys.

Eventually, if it's not happened as of today, either the Boys will get sick of getting idea after idea neutered by corporate and call an end to the show; or they'll run out their contracts and CBS/Sirius will not renew them due to "Budget Restraints".

Still glad he up and left. No use trying to do what you do best, and not being able to. Regardless if the bit chosen is considered hack by some of the listeners.

Might've ended today, might end 2 years from now. One of the 2 though. Which works, given that's how they wanted it all to end. With a dribble.

[kwoods]

Hi guys....:action-sm

Fucking with the freaks and interns is funny shit....most of the time. But sometimes it crosses a line...and that has nothing to do with censorship per se.

This thing with Stalker Patty has really degenerated. Anal beads up Patt's ass? If you're amused by that, would you find it entertaining if you read (or worse participated in) that some punk teens were found doing that to a retard in a garage somewhere? What's the difference?

Patty is a geek and has some mental problems...obviously. Fucking with her nerdiness is hiarious, but when it gets into acting on this sexual shit the boys are just begging for problems. I think this is where the management is stepping in.

They were fucking with another retard recently...the red headed retard from Ron and Fez. The dumbass would do anything to get airtime and they exploited it. Ronnie B stepped in and stopped it. It's not censorship, it's just a line that you don't cross.

I don't think the boys need to stoop to this bullshit to be entertaining anyhow. You have two of the greatest comedic minds in the bidness with lil Jimmy and Ant, and even Opie is funny as hell anymore. So why go back to fucking frat boy dorm room humor? It's a fucking nationally syndicated show broadcast to two countries. These fucking stunts can be done by college radio hacks trying to break into the business.

It's a great show. The boys need to work on the bigger audience and can get it with their opinions and to this point the freedom of speech that they don't have on terrestrial.

Thanks for reading, and this is nothing more than one listener's opinion. :action-sm

[WOWmagnet]

Its a bit...

If they were really that pissed off about the lawyers, among other things, they wouldn't collect a paycheck. Instead, they're millionaires and want complete control, which will never happen.

They spend way to much fucking time bitching about lawyers on air, they know what they can and cannot do, its that simple, get over it.
The first four letters of your name speak volumes. -Buster H
Fuckheads like Cunta Kinte make me glad there's an ignore function.
Welcome to it buddy

When he gets cornered, he just pretends to never come back o that particular thread. -an ONA hater and hater of all 'baggers.

[jpc165]

Fuckheads like Cunta Kinte make me glad there's an ignore function.
Welcome to it buddy

Agreed. I fucking love that feature. Lots of fucking douches popping up round these parts as of late.

[WOWmagnet]

I'm done with this company. My sub is up soon. When it is I'll get the show from some other source. I can't pay for this shit any more.

Buh Bye.

[shwoogie]

If you're amused by that, would you find it entertaining if you read (or worse participated in) that some punk teens were found doing that to a retard in a garage somewhere?


Yes

[HumpX]

Its not just entertainment, attorneys are controlling nearly every important aspect of our lives. One of the biggest is health care where spiraling costs (I pay close to 800 bucks per month for basic coverage) are directly related to endless litigation and enticing patients into a "hit-the-lottery" mentality. Then there's nearly every other form of insurance. How about the state of copyright law where they've convinced the Govt. to act as copyright cops for private American companies overseas (not to mention using the US court system to shakedown folks for thousands who never downloaded a file in their life). Then, of course, entertainment lawyers.....

Two words...."Tort Reform"

[WOWmagnet]

Put lawyers in concentration camps and let them feed off the mountains of paper they waste.

[cokelogic]

So I have to know, if the show wasn't ruined today, would Patti have taken anal beads in the rear?

And would have Sam be next, to follow up his week of experimentation?

[cokelogic]

Put lawyers in concentration camps and let them feed off the mountains of paper they waste.I think you're thinking of Jews... oh wait, that's right... tomato, tomato. :action-sm

[Yesterdays Hero]

This thing with Stalker Patty has really degenerated. Anal beads up Patt's ass? If you're amused by that, would you find it entertaining if you read (or worse participated in) that some punk teens were found doing that to a retard in a garage somewhere? What's the difference?

Slippery slope.

It's not an issue of being amused by it. It's an issue of being able to. Censorship on a format that's supposedly Uncensored can be a frustrating thing for someone that has an active hand in "the biz". Hence the walkout.

So I have to know, if the show wasn't ruined today, would Patti have taken anal beads in the rear?

And would have Sam be next, to follow up his week of experimentation?

Of course she would have, and of course he would have.

[blacknoi]

Yea cause ANAL beads makes great radio.... I must have missed the "need paltalk to fully enjoy" disclaimer.

I just wish they would ignore bits that DONT TRANSLATE well to radio.

You know, its one thing to fight the lawyers on sticking crap in patti for the X time. Why not fight for the homeless shopping spree? Priorities.

[Budyzir]

Right now on the replay.

[LiddyRules]

Yea cause ANAL beads makes great radio.... I must have missed the "need paltalk to fully enjoy" disclaimer.

I just wish they would ignore bits that DONT TRANSLATE well to radio.

You know, its one thing to fight the lawyers on sticking crap in patti for the X time. Why not fight for the homeless shopping spree? Priorities.

It's the principle of the matter. I didn't like the anal beads idea either. But it's the principle. And they tried to fight for the HSS. They lost.

[blacknoi]

Right now on the replay.

Care to finish your sentence?

[blacknoi]

It's the principle of the matter. I didn't like the anal beads idea either. But it's the principle. And they tried to fight for the HSS. They lost.

Well I didn't hear them throw a fit on the air about the HSS and one of the principle players leave the studio over it.

They just seemed to make it like they cared more about the anal beads today, than other battles.... ONAIR anyway.

[LiddyRules]

Well I didn't hear them throw a fit on the air about the HSS and one of the principle players leave the studio over it.

They just seemed to make it like they cared more about the anal beads today, than other battles.... ONAIR anyway.

Because the anal beads was a sudden, spontaneous thing which led to the anger while the HSS was probably behind the scenes for awhile.

[Yesterdays Hero]

"Goodbye. Goodbye. I'll think about it if I wanna come back."

Wish I could edit the title of the thread for posterity's sake.

[DR. Jimcy M.E.]

I think you're thinking of Jews... oh wait, that's right... tomato, tomato. :action-sm

Dammit yah stole my joke :icon_cry:

[WOWmagnet]

"Goodbye. Goodbye. I'll think about it if I wanna come back."

Wish I could edit the title of the thread for posterity's sake.

...really hit the mark with that first title...

[Steam]

Because the anal beads was a sudden, spontaneous thing which led to the anger while the HSS was probably behind the scenes for awhile.

Why you even bother?

He knows more than anyone else. It's the new bit of the hip fans.

[GoodDaySir]

Funny how the lawyers seem to be getting a bit more involved shortly after the merger.

Unless "the lawyers" is another term for a certain shock jock who now happens to be on the same service pulling his shit again....

[WOWmagnet]

Funny how the lawyers seem to be getting a bit more involved shortly after the merger.

Unless "the lawyers" is another term for a certain shock jock who now happens to be on the same service pulling his shit again....

"lawyers", Hoo Hoo, melvin, get it?

[Sct Ptersns Twn]

I need to change my sig.......








Edit: done

[sjchaos]

Do half of you fucking clowns even get the show, anymore?

"fighting the maaaan" is not a bit, dopes, they have been fighting
for this "free speech" radio since day 1. It's what made them so
original in the first place. F her in the A and C all over her V, was
genius, remember? Then the rest of the world caught on.

talking about the lawyers is the boy's way making us understand the
reason's they can't give thier 'A' game, to us, all the time.
Contrary to what you may think, they love thier fans (no homo)
and get pissed when they have to sell us short

criticizing the show is giving your opinion about something they should
or have done. NOT MAKING UP REASONS THEY DO THINGS.
All your shit is speculation (blind cc... blah blah)

Ant & Jim stayed because it's THEIR JOBS and they love doing it.
I dont know about you but I wouldnt give up a gig just cuz my
partner lost it on one single occasion. Their not college kids,
and not gonna "protest maaaaaan" by leaving too. Not to mention
it makes great a "cringe" moment.

Anyone who really enjoys O & A whould never question the
hackyness of doing something sexual with Stalker Patti.
If you've known her since the beginning, its always funny.
(she's the hack, thats why its funny)

some of the things the boy's do "is" hacky and they know
that, when they do it. That's the point, stupids. Their sense
of humor is the joke about a joke. Doesnt anyone get that.

I dont think most of you realize this all probably nearing the end.
You fuckfaces want to spend you time smashing what was the greatest
run in radio history?

Fuck All U Little Babies. I Love everything they've done.

[ThaPplsChoice]

Hi guys....:action-sm

Fucking with the freaks and interns is funny shit....most of the time. But sometimes it crosses a line...and that has nothing to do with censorship per se.

This thing with Stalker Patty has really degenerated. Anal beads up Patt's ass? If you're amused by that, would you find it entertaining if you read (or worse participated in) that some punk teens were found doing that to a retard in a garage somewhere? What's the difference?

Patty is a geek and has some mental problems...obviously. Fucking with her nerdiness is hiarious, but when it gets into acting on this sexual shit the boys are just begging for problems. I think this is where the management is stepping in.

They were fucking with another retard recently...the red headed retard from Ron and Fez. The dumbass would do anything to get airtime and they exploited it. Ronnie B stepped in and stopped it. It's not censorship, it's just a line that you don't cross.

I don't think the boys need to stoop to this bullshit to be entertaining anyhow. You have two of the greatest comedic minds in the bidness with lil Jimmy and Ant, and even Opie is funny as hell anymore. So why go back to fucking frat boy dorm room humor? It's a fucking nationally syndicated show broadcast to two countries. These fucking stunts can be done by college radio hacks trying to break into the business.

It's a great show. The boys need to work on the bigger audience and can get it with their opinions and to this point the freedom of speech that they don't have on terrestrial.

Thanks for reading, and this is nothing more than one listener's opinion. :action-sm

The issue of whether anyone is crossing some sort of line isn't relevant. It's not about whether they SHOULD, but whether they CAN. The fact that a pack of marginally involved asses in suits are dictating what they can or can't air on an allegedly uncensored radio station solely on the basis of taste is horseshit.

[MayrMeninoCrash]

Why do the lawyers not have a problem with Sam sucking on rubber cocks or Mydavid kissing guy's asses? Meanwhile someone with 2 X chromosomes comes along and they batten down the hatches. Even though I agree with Opie on the principle of the matter, I really think the show needs to go in a different direction. Have their booking abilities become so diminished that the only guests they can get are Stalker Patti and Big A anymore? No D list celebrities wanting to call into "Franchise O & A". This whole week seems to have been one day after another of "humiliate the O & A staffer/intern" and "Let's see how far we can push the ghey envelope". If anyone from the show is watching, please, cut this shit out. It's not good radio. It's almost making me wish for the return of "Tin-Foil Anthony" and his theories on how Obama is going to ruin the world.

[LiddyRules]

Why do the lawyers not have a problem with Sam sucking on rubber cocks or Mydavid kissing guy's asses? Because there's a difference between those two things and shoving something up into a vagina. If you don't see the difference then...you're retarded.

Or, let me make it easier- "The suits are gay and only like gay stuff because they're gay and love cock."

[blacknoi]

I Love everything they've done.

Thats all you really had to say.

[pezones]

"The suits are gay and only like gay stuff because they're gay and love cock."

:icon_mrgr

[Ziti Lo Mein]

Why do the lawyers not have a problem with Sam sucking on rubber cocks or Mydavid kissing guy's asses? Meanwhile someone with 2 X chromosomes comes along and they batten down the hatches. Even though I agree with Opie on the principle of the matter, I really think the show needs to go in a different direction. Have their booking abilities become so diminished that the only guests they can get are Stalker Patti and Big A anymore? No D list celebrities wanting to call into "Franchise O & A". This whole week seems to have been one day after another of "humiliate the O & A staffer/intern" and "Let's see how far we can push the ghey envelope". If anyone from the show is watching, please, cut this shit out. It's not good radio. It's almost making me wish for the return of "Tin-Foil Anthony" and his theories on how Obama is going to ruin the world.

Quiet, you. You disagree with something they do and so you criticize their booking skills? WTF does that have to do with anything? You're just pulling excuses out of your ass. They just had that ham Shatner on a week ago or so. How is that "not having booking skills"? If you disagree with something they do on the show, ok. But don't try and find such lame excuses as that, things that have absolutely nothing to do with anything.

[Yesterdays Hero]

...really hit the mark with that first title...

Yes, I'm a fucking idiot. But at least I'm not Cunta Kinte

[BIV]

*irellivent content*

Who the Hell are you?







:action-sm

[Sct Ptersns Twn]

Do half of you fucking clowns even get the show, anymore?

......"the rest of you post is irrelevant".........

Fuck All U Little Babies. I Love everything they've done.

Wallet, crush, die.

[Cunt Smasher]

Do half of you fucking clowns even get the show, anymore?

"fighting the maaaan" is not a bit, dopes, they have been fighting
for this "free speech" radio since day 1. It's what made them so
original in the first place. F her in the A and C all over her V, was
genius, remember? Then the rest of the world caught on.



some of the things the boy's do "is" hacky and they know
that, when they do it. That's the point, stupids. Their sense
of humor is the joke about a joke. Doesnt anyone get that.

I dont think most of you realize this all probably nearing the end.
You fuckfaces want to spend you time smashing what was the greatest
run in radio history?

Fuck All U Little Babies. I Love everything they've done.
QFT

Even though I agree with Opie on the principle of the matter, I really think the show needs to go in a different direction. Have their booking abilities become so diminished that the only guests they can get are Stalker Patti and Big A anymore? No D list celebrities wanting to call into "Franchise O & A". This whole week seems to have been one day after another of "humiliate the O & A staffer/intern" and "Let's see how far we can push the ghey envelope". If anyone from the show is watching, please, cut this shit out. It's not good radio. It's almost making me wish for the return of "Tin-Foil Anthony" and his theories on how Obama is going to ruin the world.

Wrong.It's not about what they want,really. It's about ratings. If it's not working,ratings go down,then you do something else. I usually like about 75% of the show,myself. I can be funny and entertaining sometimes,but hours,every day? No fucking way. IMO,some of what they do is throwing shit at the wall and see what sticks. They keep doing things like the anal beads because sometimes it IS radio gold,and sometimes,if it sucks ass,it's even better because they will tool on themselves. All the history,and years of radio,you expect new and fresh and exciting all the time? Not gonna happen.
No fucking way the suits didn't know what they were getting with O&A,they prolly listened to hours of old stuff,especially the controversial stuff, so to all of a sudden say "Holy shit,we can't allow that!" is total bullshit. There's no surprises anymore, the bbbboys might do anything at any given moment, it's what the've been getting paid for. It's like you buy a SUV then six months later bitch about the fuel mileage. Op is right.

[BIV]

wrong thread.
My bad.

[MayrMeninoCrash]

Quiet, you. You disagree with something they do and so you criticize their booking skills? WTF does that have to do with anything? You're just pulling excuses out of your ass. They just had that ham Shatner on a week ago or so. How is that "not having booking skills"? If you disagree with something they do on the show, ok. But don't try and find such lame excuses as that, things that have absolutely nothing to do with anything.

I think that having interns and producers do gay shit on the radio for laughs is lazy radio, and would much prefer to see them book guests (even if they are lame like the "bro" book guy) and maybe do a little show prep. There's lots of stuff going on in the world, there is absolutely no excuse for what we were treated to this week. Sam kissing David, David kissing Erock, Sam sucking fake penises.....all bullshit, pull it out of our ass last minute show ideas.

[Pearce]

I think that having interns and producers do gay shit on the radio for laughs is lazy radio, and would much prefer to see them book guests (even if they are lame like the "bro" book guy) and maybe do a little show prep. There's lots of stuff going on in the world, there is absolutely no excuse for what we were treated to this week. Sam kissing David, David kissing Erock, Sam sucking fake penises.....all bullshit, pull it out of our ass last minute show ideas.

So stop listening. You just described exactly what O&A have always done. They take chances, they work off the cuff, it's not a fucking morning zoo where you go "At 9:15 we're gonna play this parody song and seg into the Story Of The Day at 9:20!". You're going to like some things, you're not going to like others. The show goes in cycles. They do 5-6 hours a day, it's mathematically impossible for one single person to be entertained by every segment of every show. If you're not a fan of a particular bit or cycle, stop listening for a while, come back in a week and see if it's back to what you like.

[Hog's Big Ben]

Uncensored means they can say what they want, not that they are free to stick whatever they want in people.

Steve C. said the douche in charge of the channel (someone also named Steve) said "no insertion" and that that rule has been in place forever. The girls from Adam & Eve couldn't do each other with strap-ons because of the same "no insertion" rule, and how long ago was that? Howard's Sybian fucktoy seems to be fake, too. The girls just ride the saddle without putting the dong attachment in them. This isn't anything new.

Opie didn't walk out because they couldn't shove things in Patti's ass. He walked out because the asshole running the channel hung up on Steve C. instead of discussing the issue, then wouldn't take Steve C.'s call afterwards.

[Sinn Fein]

I love these guys who have never posted before but feel it is their duty to tell everyone how it is MAAANN!

[jules]

Its a bit...

If they were really that pissed off about the lawyers, among other things, they wouldn't collect a paycheck. Instead, they're millionaires and want complete control, which will never happen.

They spend way to much fucking time bitching about lawyers on air, they know what they can and cannot do, its that simple, get over it.

why acknowledge someone seeking attention?:hamm:

[Cunta Kinte]

Ive never associated with so many dumb mother fuckers in my life. Anything that isn't pro O&A is killed instantly, heaven forbid the show gets better? And by better, I don't mean more useless porn chicks that aren't interesting showing tits we can't see unless you have paltalk.

Opie "Standing up for freedom" is horseshit, this isn't the first or last time hes walked out of the studio or bitched on air about lawyers, he does it ALL THE FUCKING TIME and nothing gets done. Thats the point, if the bbbboys actually had any power on satellite radio they would only have to rant once to get something done, not rant for years.

Like I said, if they're truly worried about the radio world getting to PC, then go back to FM, take a massive paycut and get on as many stations as possible. Then spread the O&A gospel.

If thats not the case, continue to collect the millions, act like "regular joes" and bitch obsessively about lawyers ruining your terrible visual bits for the radio.

Situations like these prove that the boys aren't bringing in the subscriptions, at least not enough to justify their paychecks. They have to walk on eggshells and it has nothing to do with Mel or Howard, its because while they do bring in some listeners, its not going to kill the company completely to get rid of them before the next hassle they cause.

You guys can't look at things from a business perspective but would rather listen to millionaires attempting to be rebels maaaaaaaan.

If they were truly rebellious they would put money aside and establish a much larger subscriber/listener base, the money will then come later.

[Cunta Kinte]

Ive never associated with so many dumb mother fuckers in my life. Anything that isn't pro O&A is killed instantly, heaven forbid the show gets better? And by better, I don't mean more useless porn chicks that aren't interesting showing tits we can't see unless you have paltalk.

Opie "Standing up for freedom" is horseshit, this isn't the first or last time hes walked out of the studio or bitched on air about lawyers, he does it ALL THE FUCKING TIME and nothing gets done. Thats the point, if the bbbboys actually had any power on satellite radio they would only have to rant once to get something done, not rant for years.

Like I said, if they're truly worried about the radio world getting to PC, then go back to FM, take a massive paycut and get on as many stations as possible. Then spread the O&A gospel.

If thats not the case, continue to collect the millions, act like "regular joes" and bitch obsessively about lawyers ruining your terrible visual bits for the radio.

Situations like these prove that the boys aren't bringing in the subscriptions, at least not enough to justify their paychecks. They have to walk on eggshells and it has nothing to do with Mel or Howard, its because while they do bring in some listeners, its not going to kill the company completely to get rid of them before the next hassle they cause.

You guys can't look at things from a business perspective but would rather listen to millionaires attempting to be rebels maaaaaaaan.

If they were truly rebellious they would put money aside and establish a much larger subscriber/listener base, the money will then come later.

[Pearce]

Ive never associated with so many dumb mother fuckers in my life.

I don't appreciate the member bashing, sir. It'd be nice if you could please not do that anymore. :)

[Yesterdays Hero]

So stop listening. You just described exactly what O&A have always done. They take chances, they work off the cuff, it's not a fucking morning zoo where you go "At 9:15 we're gonna play this parody song and seg into the Story Of The Day at 9:20!". You're going to like some things, you're not going to like others. The show goes in cycles. They do 5-6 hours a day, it's mathematically impossible for one single person to be entertained by every segment of every show. If you're not a fan of a particular bit or cycle, stop listening for a while, come back in a week and see if it's back to what you like.

Good egg.


Uncensored means they can say what they want, not that they are free to stick whatever they want in people.

Steve C. said the douche in charge of the channel (someone also named Steve) said "no insertion" and that that rule has been in place forever. The girls from Adam & Eve couldn't do each other with strap-ons because of the same "no insertion" rule, and how long ago was that? Howard's Sybian fucktoy seems to be fake, too. The girls just ride the saddle without putting the dong attachment in them. This isn't anything new.

Opie didn't walk out because they couldn't shove things in Patti's ass. He walked out because the asshole running the channel hung up on Steve C. instead of discussing the issue, then wouldn't take Steve C.'s call afterwards.

Also a good egg.

[me in canada]

if it wasnt for the shit dick lawyers o and a would probably be off the air by now

if left to their own they would of self destructed long ago

imo

[MayrMeninoCrash]

So stop listening. You just described exactly what O&A have always done. They take chances, they work off the cuff, it's not a fucking morning zoo where you go "At 9:15 we're gonna play this parody song and seg into the Story Of The Day at 9:20!". You're going to like some things, you're not going to like others. The show goes in cycles. They do 5-6 hours a day, it's mathematically impossible for one single person to be entertained by every segment of every show. If you're not a fan of a particular bit or cycle, stop listening for a while, come back in a week and see if it's back to what you like.


I'm pretty much at that point. I thought they hit a low leading up to the elections with stupid and inane discussions, but this last week has blown all that away. Somehow I feel like my feedback may be considered in how to improve the show (and if I'm in the minority, fine, tell me to fuck off and turn it to Martha Stewart, I'm a big boy). The disappointing thing is that I am far more entertained by the CBS portion lately (i.e. the free stuff) than the SirXMius portion (that I am PAYING for). This morning's discussion of the media panic over the snowstorm was great, even though I am 3000 miles from NYC. There again, though proves my point. None of that bit was from the hip, they clearly had prepped to discuss the storm and had the clips standing by and it made for a more entertaining and fluid show.

[BIV]

How do I find myself on both sides of this argument?

[LiddyRules]

How do I find myself on both sides of this argument? Because we're in the general discussion forum and well, that's not the best place for intellectual discourse so by actually not seeing things as black and white and being able to debate your points, you're in the minority.

[Freese]

The point is, sat rad is going in the dumper. If they want to succeed they have to offer something other than the ability to say fuck and cunt. Things will change once Mel is booted.

[rnjrmysmustache]

Ive never associated with so many dumb mother fuckers in my life.

Yep...I'm a motherfucker alright.........yours!
dont let the thread hit ya on the way out!

[Sinn Fein]

He says that kind of shit in practically every thread he posts in.

[WarshCloth]

Its radio...its all words...you cant ban insertion on the radio because I cant see the studio through my Myfi.

THe problem is...XMSerious etc is better then terrestrial, so unless there is a 3rd format availible like online podcasts and joining up wtih nickdip.com, this is the best they can do...

It would be nice to see a "fuck you we strike" attitude, but I dont know what good it would do

[oandapartycock]

So important was the advice,
He had to post it twice.

Ive never associated with so many dumb mother fuckers in my life. Anything that isn't pro O&A is killed instantly, heaven forbid the show gets better? And by better, I don't mean more useless porn chicks that aren't interesting showing tits we can't see unless you have paltalk.

Opie "Standing up for freedom" is horseshit, this isn't the first or last time hes walked out of the studio or bitched on air about lawyers, he does it ALL THE FUCKING TIME and nothing gets done. Thats the point, if the bbbboys actually had any power on satellite radio they would only have to rant once to get something done, not rant for years.

Like I said, if they're truly worried about the radio world getting to PC, then go back to FM, take a massive paycut and get on as many stations as possible. Then spread the O&A gospel.

If thats not the case, continue to collect the millions, act like "regular joes" and bitch obsessively about lawyers ruining your terrible visual bits for the radio.

Situations like these prove that the boys aren't bringing in the subscriptions, at least not enough to justify their paychecks. They have to walk on eggshells and it has nothing to do with Mel or Howard, its because while they do bring in some listeners, its not going to kill the company completely to get rid of them before the next hassle they cause.

You guys can't look at things from a business perspective but would rather listen to millionaires attempting to be rebels maaaaaaaan.

If they were truly rebellious they would put money aside and establish a much larger subscriber/listener base, the money will then come later.

Ive never associated with so many dumb mother fuckers in my life. Anything that isn't pro O&A is killed instantly, heaven forbid the show gets better? And by better, I don't mean more useless porn chicks that aren't interesting showing tits we can't see unless you have paltalk.

Opie "Standing up for freedom" is horseshit, this isn't the first or last time hes walked out of the studio or bitched on air about lawyers, he does it ALL THE FUCKING TIME and nothing gets done. Thats the point, if the bbbboys actually had any power on satellite radio they would only have to rant once to get something done, not rant for years.

Like I said, if they're truly worried about the radio world getting to PC, then go back to FM, take a massive paycut and get on as many stations as possible. Then spread the O&A gospel.

If thats not the case, continue to collect the millions, act like "regular joes" and bitch obsessively about lawyers ruining your terrible visual bits for the radio.

Situations like these prove that the boys aren't bringing in the subscriptions, at least not enough to justify their paychecks. They have to walk on eggshells and it has nothing to do with Mel or Howard, its because while they do bring in some listeners, its not going to kill the company completely to get rid of them before the next hassle they cause.

You guys can't look at things from a business perspective but would rather listen to millionaires attempting to be rebels maaaaaaaan.

If they were truly rebellious they would put money aside and establish a much larger subscriber/listener base, the money will then come later.

[Cunta Kinte]

He says that kind of shit in practically every thread he posts in.

As opposed to the morons who disagree just to disagree? The guys that add nothing and have no argument, who attack me personally?:action-sm

I have an argument, I have a point, most of you just have "Like it or leave it."

Great fans

[Captain_Spaulding]

They really should just try to get fired and then do a podcast in Ant's new studio and sell it on iTunes. I would subscribe to that shit especially if the boys were in total control of the content. Shit even Smodcast has padi sponsors.

[DonTheTrucker]

Things will change once Mel is booted.

No. It won't. Every single radio show that tries to be edgy has to deal with the same bullshit. It's always been like that and always will be.

[DonTheTrucker]

They really should just try to get fired and then do a podcast in Ant's new studio and sell it on iTunes. I would subscribe to that shit especially if the boys were in total control of the content. Shit even Smodcast has padi sponsors.

Are you going to pay the $5 million a year salary each of them earns? I don't know a single person who ever became a millionaire doing a podcast.

[GorilaBoyNorton]

I don't know a single person who ever became a millionaire doing a podcast.

YET!

Just kidding. Is there going to be a show on Mondee? The show has been going through some shit lately.

[Sinn Fein]

As opposed to the morons who disagree just to disagree? The guys that add nothing and have no argument, who attack me personally?:action-sm

I have an argument, I have a point, most of you just have "Like it or leave it."

Great fans

My point is pretty simple. If not in your initial post in a given thread, it's usually the second one where you chose to hurl some generic insult at the membership of the board as a whole. It's getting rather tiresome. We get it. You think you're better/smarter than everyone else here. So, the fact that you're getting it right back comes as no suprise.

Then, once someone completely buries you and destroys your argument - cleans your clock, so to speak - you leave the thread - never to return. I'm sure plenty of people will line up to provide examples.

[Hydrosludge]

Ive never associated with so many dumb mother fuckers in my life. Anything that isn't pro O&A is killed instantly, heaven forbid the show gets better? And by better, I don't mean more useless porn chicks that aren't interesting showing tits we can't see unless you have paltalk.

Opie "Standing up for freedom" is horseshit, this isn't the first or last time hes walked out of the studio or bitched on air about lawyers, he does it ALL THE FUCKING TIME and nothing gets done. Thats the point, if the bbbboys actually had any power on satellite radio they would only have to rant once to get something done, not rant for years.

Like I said, if they're truly worried about the radio world getting to PC, then go back to FM, take a massive paycut and get on as many stations as possible. Then spread the O&A gospel.

If thats not the case, continue to collect the millions, act like "regular joes" and bitch obsessively about lawyers ruining your terrible visual bits for the radio.

Situations like these prove that the boys aren't bringing in the subscriptions, at least not enough to justify their paychecks. They have to walk on eggshells and it has nothing to do with Mel or Howard, its because while they do bring in some listeners, its not going to kill the company completely to get rid of them before the next hassle they cause.

You guys can't look at things from a business perspective but would rather listen to millionaires attempting to be rebels maaaaaaaan.

If they were truly rebellious they would put money aside and establish a much larger subscriber/listener base, the money will then come later.

:icon_cool:icon_conf:D:p:fight6::icon_cry::action-sm
Ban Plz

[BobCat]

Are you going to subscribe to the other satellite company... oh, that's right. There's only one options now. ;)

I'm so glad that Ant ran down the list of this they can't do and I'm so glad Opie had enough and walked out. Because the lawyers are now ruining the show. Not just holding it back or watering it down, but fucking ruining it.

Does Sirius know we can organize a cancellation protest to cancel hundreds of thousands of subs in a week? How would that look for the company in this awful economy?


Not to be a dick, but there is NO WAY you could get hundreds of thousands of subs in a week to quit. Sorry, but there is no way that many people listen to the show. You're stuck in the past my friend. It's just not what it used to be...

[Ziti Lo Mein]

Ive never associated with so many dumb mother fuckers in my life. Anything that isn't pro O&A is killed instantly, heaven forbid the show gets better? And by better, I don't mean more useless porn chicks that aren't interesting showing tits we can't see unless you have paltalk.

Opie "Standing up for freedom" is horseshit, this isn't the first or last time hes walked out of the studio or bitched on air about lawyers, he does it ALL THE FUCKING TIME and nothing gets done. Thats the point, if the bbbboys actually had any power on satellite radio they would only have to rant once to get something done, not rant for years.

Like I said, if they're truly worried about the radio world getting to PC, then go back to FM, take a massive paycut and get on as many stations as possible. Then spread the O&A gospel.

If thats not the case, continue to collect the millions, act like "regular joes" and bitch obsessively about lawyers ruining your terrible visual bits for the radio.

Situations like these prove that the boys aren't bringing in the subscriptions, at least not enough to justify their paychecks. They have to walk on eggshells and it has nothing to do with Mel or Howard, its because while they do bring in some listeners, its not going to kill the company completely to get rid of them before the next hassle they cause.

You guys can't look at things from a business perspective but would rather listen to millionaires attempting to be rebels maaaaaaaan.

If they were truly rebellious they would put money aside and establish a much larger subscriber/listener base, the money will then come later.

Cunta stfu. We can say the same thing about you with generalizations. Suddenly a wave of people disagree with you and you then have to claim we're all just fantards who would rather kill themselves than go again their "radio gods". I say this is a fucking fan site, and you should expect people to be FANS on it and maybe disagree with you if they choose to do so.

And, dumbshit, FM is worse than Satellite. Your idea is shit because you're basing it off of nothing. They have more trouble saying things on FM than satellite, what makes you think abandoning the more uncensored format is going to do anything? You seem really fucking ignorant as well to just assume that ANYBODY is going to risk their careers, something they've strived for, on the basis of principal. In an ideal world we'd all stand up against "the man" and for what we feel is right, but in the real world people have jobs and possessions that can easily be taken away. Theres no union for radio personalities or something established so their own interests and opinions are considered in all business matters. You sound like some dumbshit who would quit your job because the manager looked at you the wrong way. Truth is, in the real world, sometimes things would happen that you disagree with, and it then becomes a matter of choosing between your job or your opinion. Not everyone is as reckless or passionate to choose their opinions over their paychecks.

All you sound like is another dumb clit who is BAAWWWing because you think O&A have become uncaring rich douche's. A generalization and nothing more. Is baby mad because someone is making more money than them? Ohh noo, they're not speaking for the people anymore because they're successful with what they do! Hater with a capital H!

[Det John Kimbal]

YEAH , I mean why fight to be able to do what they want on an 'uncensored' format?

What whiny bitches, not liking to be told what they can and cannot do to entertain their audience by people who have no idea about what makes a show fun to listeners.

Rut Ro.. a howard bot.......Go fuck your mother.

[Det John Kimbal]

I'm pretty sure you're just trying to troll, but you stumbled upon a good point.

They want total control. Anyone in that business does. They'll never get it. This is also true. But why should they accept that? If they give up on something stupid like doing sex stuff, next goes certain words. Its a chain reaction that can't be allowed to happen.


I hate stuff like they were trying to do today. Chicks on the radio is hack. But if we lose that, next go the racist jokes. Then goes something else and so on until we end up with a zoo show.

Eaten any Douche cunt cupcakes latley?

[DonTheTrucker]

Eaten any Douche cunt cupcakes latley?

Yep. Your mother makes the best ones. :action-sm

[Goblin]

I didn't read the whole thread yet. Did anyone blame the jews?

[Freese]

No. It won't. Every single radio show that tries to be edgy has to deal with the same bullshit. It's always been like that and always will be.

If they don't want sat rad to fail, they have to be faaaaaaaaaaar different than terrestrial. Sat rad had a tough time when they could get away with....muuuuurder. Now they are straying closer and closer to terrestrial. I may as well drop my sub if I'm going to hear the same shit I can hear on Jack fm...

[Yesterdays Hero]

I didn't read the whole thread yet. Did anyone blame the jews?

Page 2 I think.

[Hudson]

I love these guys who have never posted before but feel it is their duty to tell everyone how it is MAAANN!
Yeah, really what is up with all that noise?


I didn't read the whole thread yet. Did anyone blame the jews? post 24

[Goblin]

post 24


How'd I miss that? :idontknow

[Buster H]

As opposed to the morons who disagree just to disagree? The guys that add nothing and have no argument, who attack me personally?:action-sm

I have an argument, I have a point, most of you just have "Like it or leave it."

Great fans
Yeah, how about attacking someone for the work that they do only to get shut down and never come back to the thread?

My point is pretty simple. If not in your initial post in a given thread, it's usually the second one where you chose to hurl some generic insult at the membership of the board as a whole. It's getting rather tiresome. We get it. You think you're better/smarter than everyone else here. So, the fact that you're getting it right back comes as no suprise.

Then, once someone completely buries you and destroys your argument - cleans your clock, so to speak - you leave the thread - never to return. I'm sure plenty of people will line up to provide examples.
Naah, that would never happen. Lil cunty is never wrong!!!

[WOWmagnet]

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:rolleyes:

[DonTheTrucker]

If they don't want sat rad to fail, they have to be faaaaaaaaaaar different than terrestrial.

If they don't want sat radio to fail they'd better start giving out free pussy with every sub. That's the only way they're saving it.

[FloridaDave]

... So i guess this means we're not going to get to the "Lesbian sex with Lilly" bit then....

More importantly, who's the Cunt running the channel and what's his email? Should the LuftCocka fly again?

[oandapartycock]

Miss Zona...

[DR. Jimcy M.E.]

Does anyone know if stern would get away with anal beads? Or are his lawyers and rules just as strict as O and A since well.... they prob have the same lawyers now.

[jpc165]

Cunta,

WTF is up with your obsession on the money they make? How fucking broke are you? Has the bad economy hit you that hard, that you just can't stand the fact they make millions a year?

Its not all about the money in this case.

[NOAFan]

And to top it off, Blubber got a fucking 2 year contract. Jesus, I really wanted to see that no-talent hillbilly go. Instead, he gets an exstention, and the boys get fucked by the lawyers. Fuck Mel Karmizin. I hope this fucking company goes bankrupt very, very soon. Let the boys do their show and sell it on iTunes.

[noregrets418]

Sirius XM probably will go bankrupt the way it's run.

[sober]

Cunta is spot-on in this thread. Dude brings sound, rational points to the table, and truckers reply with Norton quotes from 6 years ago.

You sycophants can't see the forest for the trees.

Edit: I'm even disappointed in Pearce. Dude, c'mon

[Buster H]

Cunta is spot-on in this thread. Dude brings sound, rational points to the table, and truckers reply with Norton quotes from 6 years ago.

You sycophants can't see the forest for the trees.

Edit: I'm even disappointed in Pearce. Dude, c'mon

Yet, cunta isn't even being honest with himself. Since he has been a member of this board he has continually shown disdain towards anyone that makes more money or is more successful than he is. Feel free to review his posts.

Look how many times he mentions "paycheck" or "millionaire" in this thread alone.

So what are O&A supposed to do? Throw it all away and give up their careers because of what the lawyers say? Yeah, that'll show em!

Instead of doing that, they voice their frustrations on the air. I kinda like seeing that even though these guys seem to have a dream job, they still have to deal with the same stupid shit that all of us have to deal with in our own lives.

[Lambo]

3 words
o+a podcast.

whos with me?

[jpc165]

3 words
o+a podcast.

whos with me?


http://www.cs4fn.org/biology/images/cricket.jpg

[Jerry1]

If they don't want sat rad to fail, they have to be faaaaaaaaaaar different than terrestrial. Sat rad had a tough time when they could get away with....muuuuurder. Now they are straying closer and closer to terrestrial. I may as well drop my sub if I'm going to hear the same shit I can hear on Jack fm...

Problem is that after what happened with the "Homeless Charlie" incident, satellite radio has seen itself as vulnerable as terrestrial. They began feeling that way to protect the merger and now see it as the easy and safe way to go. Which makes no sense after the merger because the only choices besides satellite is terrestrial or the IPOD.
I understand's Opie's frustrations. Seems that some thing they were able to do not even a year ago they can't do it anymore. Since the merger the lawyers have gotten a big say in satellite radio much like they have done with terrestrial. And if this keeps up they'll end up killing satellite radio much like they are doing to terrestrial.

[sober]

Yet, cunta isn't even being honest with himself. Since he has been a member of this board he has continually shown disdain towards anyone that makes more money or is more successful than he is. Feel free to review his posts.

Look how many times he mentions "paycheck" or "millionaire" in this thread alone.

So what are O&A supposed to do? Throw it all away and give up their careers because of what the lawyers say? Yeah, that'll show em!

Instead of doing that, they voice their frustrations on the air. I kinda like seeing that even though these guys seem to have a dream job, they still have to deal with the same stupid shit that all of us have to deal with in our own lives.

Whatever, I don't know the guy, and I'm certainly not going to research his history to align my opinion of him. I'm saying, in this thread, he made valid points.

Over the past 3 years, here and on the show, there have been so many shifts in what is hurting the show -- where the problem is. The blame has been shifted from one source to the next.

But the underlying theme is too much meta-talk. This isn't OUR show. We don't care about inside-talk. Hour-long rants about lawyers, cancellations, etc. don't mean anything to us. We don't care about your staff, we don't care about your "real moments".

I'll back up -- some of you care about that stuff -- This show is your life. You live and breath this show, go to events, meet up with people on this board, care about interns, etc.

People that don't post here don't give a shit. We don't subscribe to XM/Sirius. Just be more funny.

Edit: I am one of the 1% that actually does have a sub, but I don't listen when the FM hours end. It's just not any good.

[Ziti Lo Mein]

Whatever, I don't know the guy, and I'm certainly not going to research his history to align my opinion of him. I'm saying, in this thread, he made valid points.

Over the past 3 years, here and on the show, there have been so many shifts in what is hurting the show -- where the problem is. The blame has been shifted from one source to the next.

But the underlying theme is too much meta-talk. This isn't OUR show. We don't care about inside-talk. Hour-long rants about lawyers, cancellations, etc. don't mean anything to us. We don't care about your staff, we don't care about your "real moments".

I'll back up -- some of you care about that stuff -- This show is your life. You live and breath this show, go to events, meet up with people on this board, care about interns, etc.

People that don't post here don't give a shit. We don't subscribe to XM/Sirius. Just be more funny.

Edit: I am one of the 1% that actually does have a sub, but I don't listen when the FM hours end. It's just not any good.
Then why are you here?

fan site. Faann site. read that. Its a fan site!
Also yes, its not our show, but its their show. One of the good things about this show is that the people on it do get personal and talk about their lives and their troubles. It makes the person on the other end seem like a real person. If you want formulaic scheduled bits go to another show or something. Would you rather they be fake and act like there isn't a care in the world, or would you rather the show sound legitimate? I don't understand why you're even here if you feel the people in this web community are so pathetic. Also whats with this "People that don't post here don't give a shit. We don't subscribe to XM/Sirius. Just be more funny."? You're including yourself with the people who don't post here..yet you post here. And more than once, as I remember that goofy avatar. Don't be a hypocrite now.

Are you trying to make yourself out to be some higher person because you supposedly aren't part of the community? Do you have a superiority complex or something?

[CousinDave]

Ive never associated with so many dumb mother fuckers in my life.


I would be willing to bet if I took 12 active Wackbag posters at random and yourself, gave each an IQ test and a civil service test, at least three quarters would score higher than you.

[sober]

Then why are you here?

fan site. Faann site. read that. Its a fan site!
Also yes, its not our show, but its their show. One of the good things about this show is that the people on it do get personal and talk about their lives and their troubles. It makes the person on the other end seem like a real person. If you want formulaic scheduled bits go to another show or something. Would you rather they be fake and act like there isn't a care in the world, or would you rather the show sound legitimate? I don't understand why you're even here if you feel the people in this web community are so pathetic. Also whats with this "People that don't post here don't give a shit. We don't subscribe to XM/Sirius. Just be more funny."? You're including yourself with the people who don't post here..yet you post here. And more than once, as I remember that goofy avatar. Don't be a hypocrite now.

Are you trying to make yourself out to be some higher person because you supposedly aren't part of the community? Do you have a superiority complex or something?

On the FM-side, they have scheduled "bits" -- they openly mention their "breaks" constantly, and even explicitly say "this is the tease" before commercial breaks. So, I guess they're formulaic and fake, huh?

I don't think so. They've had structure since around 2000. Opie has a tight reign on the show, and it has worked since. That isn't the issue -- stop regurgitating nonsense you've heard and pieced together here and there.

Even if the show was impulsive, that's fine. Tangents about inside problems are not fine.

To your point about community -- I read this board, I post very minimally, but I have been here since the beginning. This place is so afraid of being shunned by Anthony that you won't even speak up when things aren't right -- you blame problems on anything else. That is dishonest.

[AnalLeakage]

Uncensored means they can say what they want, not that they are free to stick whatever they want in people.

Steve C. said the douche in charge of the channel (someone also named Steve) said "no insertion" and that that rule has been in place forever. The girls from Adam & Eve couldn't do each other with strap-ons because of the same "no insertion" rule, and how long ago was that? Howard's Sybian fucktoy seems to be fake, too. The girls just ride the saddle without putting the dong attachment in them. This isn't anything new.


I thought Opie even mentioned that was a rule himself just a couple weeks ago when planning a bit. Have they done any insertion recently - if not how is this a 'new rule' that all of a sudden ruins their bits?

[CousinDave]

Howard also uses professional porn stars not an emotionally disturbed 50something virgin with a crush on one of the hosts.

[Ziti Lo Mein]

On the FM-side, they have scheduled "bits" -- they openly mention their "breaks" constantly, and even explicitly say "this is the tease" before commercial breaks. So, I guess they're formulaic and fake, huh?

I don't think so. They've had structure since around 2000. Opie has a tight reign on the show, and it has worked since. That isn't the issue -- stop regurgitating nonsense you've heard and pieced together here and there.

Even if the show was impulsive, that's fine. Tangents about inside problems are not fine.

To your point about community -- I read this board, I post very minimally, but I have been here since the beginning. This place is so afraid of being shunned by Anthony that you won't even speak up when things aren't right -- you blame problems on anything else. That is dishonest.

Yes but thats not all they do and you know that. Don't try and play stupid. They do get real and talk about their lives as well as that scheduled stuff. And, yes, they do complain and talk about the negative. Its part of the persons life, career, and opinion. Its a show about opinions. Theres both negative and positive, and not bringing the negative to light would be fake of them to do so.

I don't know anything about what you claim the community does and this generalization you've made about everyone here, but you're the pot calling the kettle black, as you're just as dishonest. Claiming you're outside this community yet you do read this place, have been here since the beginning, etc etc. Don't try and make yourself out to be an outside source, especially if you've been here since it started.

[DonTheTrucker]

Cunta is spot-on in this thread. Dude brings sound, rational points to the table, and truckers reply with Norton quotes from 6 years ago.

You sycophants can't see the forest for the trees.

Edit: I'm even disappointed in Pearce. Dude, c'mon

You best not be talking about me, boy.

If so, please cite me the Norton quote from 6 years ago. I don't recall making an AIDS or tranny joke.

If you're not talking about me, I'll pile on with you. I hate truckers.

[AnalLeakage]

Didn't Bubba Sponge just have to settle this lawsuit some chick brought up against him and Sirius for insertion of a dildo? Uncensored obviously doesn't mean lawsuit proof..

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/bubba-the-love-sponge-sued-over-sex-segment.html

[sober]

Yes but thats not all they do and you know that. Don't try and play stupid. They do get real and talk about their lives as well as that scheduled stuff. And, yes, they do complain and talk about the negative. Its part of the persons life, career, and opinion. Its a show about opinions. Theres both negative and positive, and not bringing the negative to light would be fake of them to do so.

I don't know anything about what you claim the community does and this generalization you've made about everyone here, but you're the pot calling the kettle black, as you're just as dishonest. Claiming you're outside this community yet you do read this place, have been here since the beginning, etc etc. Don't try and make yourself out to be an outside source, especially if you've been here since it started.

No one wants to hear them bitching -- THIS IS A CONSTANT COMPLAINT FOR YEARS, this isn't new shit. Make the show good. That is the job. It boils down to that.

Most everyone has abandoned the XM/Sirius side of the show, except for the people here and lonely truckers. You think they -- the show -- don't know that? Listen to what they accomplish on that side.

You are coming off as someone who learned about the show through the XM show.

[sober]

You best not be talking about me, boy.

If so, please cite me the Norton quote from 6 years ago. I don't recall making an AIDS or tranny joke.

If you're not talking about me, I'll pile on with you. I hate truckers.

I like you, dude, but as long as you are a trucker, I have to give you shit. Sry.

[sober]

You see, I was ***** by a trucker as a young boy.

[DonTheTrucker]

I like you, dude, but as long as you are a trucker, I have to give you shit. Sry.

That's cool. I really do hate everyone that does this for a living, except my dad. I even hate myself.

You see, I was ***** by a trucker as a young boy.

Sorry, I was going through a dry spell.

[AnalLeakage]

You see, I was ***** by a trucker as a young boy.

Ironic.. this thread is complaining about censorship and you can't write the word r@pe in it :action-sm

[Hog's Big Ben]

They do get real and talk about their lives as well as that scheduled stuff. And, yes, they do complain and talk about the negative. Its part of the persons life, career, and opinion. Its a show about opinions. Theres both negative and positive, and not bringing the negative to light would be fake of them to do so.


They didn't even really bitch that much today. Opie left!

They're in a no-win situation. If they get a phone call from a Sirius XM suit in the middle of a bit telling them to stop, and they pretend it never happened and move on to something else, then we'd accuse them of being phony.

O&A not discussing the behind the scenes shit would be as out-of-place as one of those "we're not married but we act like we are" morning shows talking about how the boss said not to mention the female host's drunk driving arrest or the male host's cuckoldry.

[LDO]

No one wants to hear them bitching

No - you don't want to hear them bitching.

THIS IS A CONSTANT COMPLAINT FOR YEARS

A constant complaint of yours.

Most everyone has abandoned the XM/Sirius side of the show, except for the people here and lonely truckers.

And to back this 'fact' up you have what evidence?

[DonTheTrucker]

Ironic.. this thread is complaining about censorship and you can't write the word r@pe in it :action-sm

I never quite knew why that filter is on. I understand the N-word one and the old Spaz filter. Not quite sure why a word that's not offensive is banned.

[DonTheTrucker]

They didn't even really bitch that much today. Opie left!

They're in a no-win situation. If they get a phone call from a Sirius XM suit in the middle of a bit telling them to stop, and they pretend it never happened and move on to something else, then we'd accuse them of being phony.

O&A not discussing the behind the scenes shit would be as out-of-place as one of those "we're not married but we act like we are" morning shows talking about how the boss said not to mention the female host's drunk driving arrest or the male host's cuckoldry.

That pretty much sums it up.

Like I said in the listening thread. I don't mind the complaining sometimes. But I've always been a radio dork and like to know whats going on in the business. I should have been in radio. Or at least a dentist.

[BeerBelly]

Glad he walked out. He had more than a valid reason to.

What was the question Op asked Steve before the headphones were thrown? Didn't make it out.

Fucking lawyers.

I think Opie had a flight to make.
Who the hell wants hear Stalker Patty do anal beads?

[Ziti Lo Mein]

No one wants to hear them bitching -- THIS IS A CONSTANT COMPLAINT FOR YEARS, this isn't new shit. Make the show good. That is the job. It boils down to that.

Most everyone has abandoned the XM/Sirius side of the show, except for the people here and lonely truckers. You think they -- the show -- don't know that? Listen to what they accomplish on that side.

You are coming off as someone who learned about the show through the XM show.

AHAHA look at you fucking generalizing up a storm. You don't know shit. Not everyone complains about the bitching. Give me some proof of that and maybe I'll take your point seriously. People complain but its never so much that its noticeable and that the radio show would be forced to respond. You can't please everyone all the time, either. You just happen to be part of the percentage that is never pleased.

LMFAO most people abandoned XM? Are you fucking kidding me?! What planet do you live on? Jesus christ. Do you honestly think that they'd have resigned if that was the case? If they were so immensely unpopular on XM as you claim, don't you think they'd be off that platform? You're delusional. Also, wrong again. I started on FM side. Little baby is just afraid of cock and slit jokes, isn't he?

I don't even have to try with you. You make yourself look like an uninformed ignorant without any effort on someone else's part.

[sober]

AHAHA look at you fucking generalizing up a storm. You don't know shit. Not everyone complains about the bitching. Give me some proof of that and maybe I'll take your point seriously. People complain but its never so much that its noticeable and that the radio show would be forced to respond. You can't please everyone all the time, either. You just happen to be part of the percentage that is never pleased.

There were... how many? Three, four? websites that the show has responded to, or addressed, on the radio.

LMFAO most people abandoned XM? Are you fucking kidding me?! What planet do you live on? Jesus christ. Do you honestly think that they'd have resigned if that was the case? If they were so immensely unpopular on XM as you claim, don't you think they'd be off that platform? You're delusional. Also, wrong again. I started on FM side. Little baby is just afraid of cock and slit jokes, isn't he?

I don't even have to try with you. You make yourself look like an uninformed ignorant without any effort on someone else's part.


I won't respond to this baiting.

[cokelogic]

Not to be a dick, but there is NO WAY you could get hundreds of thousands of subs in a week to quit. Sorry, but there is no way that many people listen to the show. You're stuck in the past my friend. It's just not what it used to be...Stuck in the past? It happened last October with the suspension!

Fine. Let's assume nothing can be done then. We shouldn't even be posting if we can't change a thing. Let's just lay down and take the lawyers ruining the show.

[subtasticdan]

are they gone for vacation? could be an elaborate cliffhanger?

[Ego]

Sorry...not a bit.

Although I missed this I know the passion that Op has for wanting to steer the show where he feels it should go...and I trust his judgement.

The Boys do get double standards.
Let's face it, Hoo Hoo wouldn't get this treatment and he has (or had...not sure) a vibrating dildo machine that holes would straddle for plee-a-sure.

It would be nice to go on another pesty mission...they brings the funny.

Go Op...Just say the word Sir.

I'm in agreement here, sir. Just say the word, and this cocksucker suit's entire family will have nothing but meatspin, 1 guy 1 jar, and things of that ilk on their computers, both home and office.

[user name]

Music on KROCK
Two guys I've never heard of before on XM feed.
Going back to bed.
Shitty way to start the weekend.

Gone or not... if they aren't even in repeat, they feel gone.

[Ego]

Just thinkin' here. If we can get this guy's last name, and a mailing address...
Let's send this nice gentleman a present. (http://www.poopsenders.com/order/)

[Heather Height]

I'm pretty sure you're just trying to troll, but you stumbled upon a good point.

They want total control. Anyone in that business does. They'll never get it. This is also true. But why should they accept that? If they give up on something stupid like doing sex stuff, next goes certain words. Its a chain reaction that can't be allowed to happen.


I hate stuff like they were trying to do today. Chicks on the radio is hack. But if we lose that, next go the racist jokes. Then goes something else and so on until we end up with a zoo show.

I agree, it might seem silly to take a stand on anal beads however, they have gone through this before, next thing you know the satellite show will be just as restricted as terrestrial radio.

Don, I love you, thanks for saying that the presence of an entire gender on the radio is hack. I'm totally not offended, just couldn't let it go without a mention. Ona counta I co-host an internet radio show is all.

xox

[Cunt Smasher]

I think by "chicks on the radio" he was referring to porn stars and the like.
Doesn't seem like THAT long ago they did WB challenge,recently ESD inserted a dildo in himself,and how long ago did Earl get serviced? Seems like the rules are constantly changing,for the worse. The boys are very good at working within the boundaries,and pushing the envelope,but there has to be some consistency to those rules. I wouldn't want to work with somebody always there,watching and waiting to second guess every move I make. Again, Op was right.

[Buster H]

Whatever, I don't know the guy, and I'm certainly not going to research his history to align my opinion of him. I'm saying, in this thread, he made valid points.

Over the past 3 years, here and on the show, there have been so many shifts in what is hurting the show -- where the problem is. The blame has been shifted from one source to the next.

But the underlying theme is too much meta-talk. This isn't OUR show. We don't care about inside-talk. Hour-long rants about lawyers, cancellations, etc. don't mean anything to us. We don't care about your staff, we don't care about your "real moments".

I'll back up -- some of you care about that stuff -- This show is your life. You live and breath this show, go to events, meet up with people on this board, care about interns, etc.

People that don't post here don't give a shit. We don't subscribe to XM/Sirius. Just be more funny.

Edit: I am one of the 1% that actually does have a sub, but I don't listen when the FM hours end. It's just not any good.

Replace "we" with "I" and you got it.

For reference, I didn't get to listen to a single show this week due to work, but I am glad you are able to speak for all people that post on this board.

[charlie dick]

Most everyone has abandoned the XM/Sirius side of the show, except for the people here and lonely truckers.
Post proof or STFU.

[Buster H]

Stuck in the past? It happened last October with the suspension!
October? ummmm.... May.......:action-sm

[Heather Height]

I think by "chicks on the radio" he was referring to porn stars and the like.


Oh I know, I'm just being stupid. :)

[TEXAS TRUCKER]

http://www.cs4fn.org/biology/images/cricket.jpg
I think thats a grasshopper not a cricket. :action-sm

[crippledalbino]

I think thats a grasshopper not a cricket. :action-sm

Sweet.
I was hoping for a nice entomology discussion this morning.

[Redelta 88]

I won't respond to this baiting.


You just did. Hah, hah!

[boomer]

Could I play devils advocate here for a second. I love the show but maybe sometimes the lawyers are needed to protect O&A from O&A.

You bitch about double standards but how many times has Howard been fired for doing a bit on the radio that pissed off someone? You know...like a mayor or Jesus or something like that there? None. O&A have.

Would it have been a good thing or a bad thing if a lawyer stepped in and stopped Sex for Sam? Or maybe went over the list and told them to remove church from the list? Would Opie have been pissed...yes he would have, but they wouldn't have been fired.

Bringing in a 'mentally damaged listener' and having guys get a good laugh as they stuffed anal beads up her ass "might" be seen as a forced degrading sexual act by some people. Take it out of context and the shit storm could have ended their careers yet again.

The rules have changed as far as what you could get fired for because everyone is a fucking baby now and believes they are the moral center of the world. Maybe you shouldn't be so pissed at the guys that are keeping our guys on the air.

They are way more talented than needing to resort to that kind of crap now anyway.

And those of you that bitch about it being uncensored radio...that means they can say "fuck" and "shit", not drop N-Bombs and sodomize retards.

Please Opie...if you read this...we're in your corner and have your back...if they drop you, we drop them in a second... but you need to realize that the rules are being enforced to keep you from blowing up yourself yet again. Sometimes we have to root for the bad guys!

[Freese]

If they don't want sat radio to fail they'd better start giving out free pussy with every sub. That's the only way they're saving it.

No, lots of people would pay for sat rad, there has to be something to.... intiiiiiice them.

[Pearce]

Could I play devils advocate here for a second. I love the show but maybe sometimes the lawyers are needed to protect O&A from O&A.

That's a point I can agree with. I bet if the person would have just explained to them why they can't do it like that, they would have been pissed but known he's right. It was him being a little cunt, hanging up in the middle of them trying to work it out with him and not answering following calls, that made Opie decide to say fuck you.

[HumpX]

How do I find myself on both sides of this argument?

because, heaven forbid, you can see the points of both arguments.


You sir, have no place here


:icon_wink

[naholmes]

I thought Jimmy inserted his thumb into S.P.'s ass a couple of months ago. Is it OK to insert body parts into other bodies, but not objects?

As a stockholder with 2 subs, I'm a little pissed about these scum lawyers directing the show. Can O&A be fired it they go against the lawyers demands? When Steve C. came in with the decree, they should have just done it anyway. What would happen? A fine? From who?

[boomer]

That's a point I can agree with. I bet if the person would have just explained to them why they can't do it like that, they would have been pissed but known he's right. It was him being a little cunt, hanging up in the middle of them trying to work it out with him and not answering following calls, that made Opie decide to say fuck you.

OK, now this part is from rumor and speculation, not a first hand account.

I hear that when Opie is passionate about something, he's not in the most polite mood. With that in mind, maybe this guy didn't feel like getting bitched at again for doing his job.

[BobCat]

Stuck in the past? It happened last October with the suspension!

Fine. Let's assume nothing can be done then. We shouldn't even be posting if we can't change a thing. Let's just lay down and take the lawyers ruining the show.


Are you serious? How many people really canceled last October..? Maybe a few thousand??? I bet a bunch of people called to complain and took a free couple months. They just don't have the pull or the audience they used to have when they were in afternoons.

[Gonzoid]

Are you serious? How many people really canceled last MAY..? Maybe a few thousand??? I bet a bunch of people called to complain and took a free couple months. They just don't have the pull or the audience they used to have when they were in afternoons.

I tend to agree with you here. I think the amount of people who actually canceled their subs and others who complained did help OnA keep their jobs but, I also think the number that actually canceled was in the low thousands.

[sd187]

Nah. We found out today the Sybian is another scam Howie's been perpetrating on his listeners. I guess O&A could just fake it... :icon_roll

how do you know that? I didn't hear it on the show.

[Got One?]

- Stop taking a paycheck, get on as many FM stations as possible and crusade for better radio.


yeah, because FM is so much easier.

::hammer:

[ruckstande]

I'm still curious who is signing up for this shit? I don't know of anyone who still wants XM. The ones who have it aren't that thrilled with it unless you were a Sirius customer because you didn't really lose anything. Why do the lawyers only care about keeping the hosts from putting on an entertaining show instead of reading their little lawyer books trying to figure out all of the ways they can get away with doing shit?

[Ballbuster1]

Why do the lawyers only care about keeping the hosts from putting on an entertaining show instead of reading their little lawyer books trying to figure out all of the ways they can get away with doing shit?
Because it's easier for them to just say no to everything.

[mills]

No one wants to hear them bitching -- THIS IS A CONSTANT COMPLAINT FOR YEARS, this isn't new shit. Make the show good. That is the job. It boils down to that.

Most everyone has abandoned the XM/Sirius side of the show, except for the people here and lonely truckers. You think they -- the show -- don't know that? Listen to what they accomplish on that side.

You are coming off as someone who learned about the show through the XM show.Wow, that was one of the bullshittiest posts ever composed. Congrats.

[GovtMule1979]

I'm with Sober, I don't want to hear them bitching. If Ron and Fez weren't on 202, it wouldn't even be on my pre set now. I caught the last 15 minutes of the show last night before the Ron Fez replay and noticed Opie wasn't on. It probably was just a bit before they go on vacation again.
I've said this in another thread, I've been a fan of the guys since the AAF days. The show just isn't keeping me entertained anymore. The only reason I'm even checking out Wackbag is because it bothers me that I don't like the show anymore.

[Yesterdays Hero]

I'm with Sober, I don't want to hear them bitching. If Ron and Fez weren't on 202, it wouldn't even be on my pre set now. I caught the last 15 minutes of the show last night before the Ron Fez replay and noticed Opie wasn't on. It probably was just a bit before they go on vacation again.
I've said this in another thread, I've been a fan of the guys since the AAF days. The show just isn't keeping me entertained anymore. The only reason I'm even checking out Wackbag is because it bothers me that I don't like the show anymore.

Then don't listen anymore if it's that upsetting for you. For that matter, make wackbag a better forum, and don't bother posting either. TA-DA! Your problem has just been solved.

Good point about protecting the boys from themselves, though the lawyers failed to do that in not explaining why. Hence Op ditching.

I seem to remember a certain Starbucks employee getting dp'd on the show a couple months back. Similar situation. Only then, there wasn't any money being given out for "service to the show".

[ghirshorn]

Because it's easier for them to just say no to everything.

That is a good point, from the lawyer's POV if the shut down anything edgy or entertaining before it has a chance to get off the ground then their jobs are safer due to that.

[Hog's Big Ben]

... maybe sometimes the lawyers are needed to protect O&A from O&A.

...

Bringing in a 'mentally damaged listener' and having guys get a good laugh as they stuffed anal beads up her ass "might" be seen as a forced degrading sexual act by some people. Take it out of context and the shit storm could have ended their careers yet again.

The rules have changed as far as what you could get fired for because everyone is a fucking baby now and believes they are the moral center of the world. Maybe you shouldn't be so pissed at the guys that are keeping our guys on the air.

You write this like there's a mystical entity out there that will fire them if they cross some invisible line. The only people that can fire them from Sirius XM are people at Sirius XM.

The suits are listening to see if anything goes out over the airwaves that could get them sued. Shut up with this altruistic bullshit that the lawyers are there to save them from themselves. Jimmy is in the middle of a lawsuit over something that happened on the air and dipshit Bubba ruined it for everyone by having a girl fuck another girl (http://www.allbusiness.com/services/motion-pictures/4483682-1.html) with a dildo on his show (she later sued). A company that's now worth less than Stern's contract doesn't need any more fucking lawsuits.

[EnwordLips]

Opie was right to walk. Sirius has totally fucked up the show. How about letting the boys do their show? Putting gags and handcuffs on them is just idiotic, but who said Sirius has intelligent management. Sirius is just like every other fucking corporation. They suck balls. I hope Opie goes to meet with that asshole pulls the anal beads out of Patti's ass and shoves them down his throat. What a dick.

DOnt blame SiriusXM, it was just as bad when it was just XM.

[GovtMule1979]

Then don't listen anymore if it's that upsetting for you. For that matter, make wackbag a better forum, and don't bother posting either. TA-DA! Your problem has just been solved.

Good point about protecting the boys from themselves, though the lawyers failed to do that in not explaining why. Hence Op ditching.

I seem to remember a certain Starbucks employee getting dp'd on the show a couple months back. Similar situation. Only then, there wasn't any money being given out for "service to the show".


I'm not listening anyomre, sorry I'm not an O/A ass kisser who can't admit the show has sucked for the last year. Why do you think they have been pulled out of every major market they were in? Their ratings sucked, and not enough people care about them outside of New York. If they were wanted so badly in Philly, Boston, and Clev, they would have found a new home by now. People just don't care.

[jackjack]

Why do you think they have been pulled out of every major market they were in?

Because ad revenue is down to nothing and doesn't offset the cost of the show and bring in a profit like it used to. Things have changed, and the rock star radio show that is syndicated everywhere and paid millions doesn't work as a business model any more.

[Aaron Burrito]

Because ad revenue is down to nothing and doesn't offset the cost of the show and bring in a profit like it used to. Things have changed, and the rock star radio show that is syndicated everywhere and paid millions doesn't work as a business model any more.

That doesn't explain the ratings. It all fits together.

[ceeps04]

I'm with Sober, I don't want to hear them bitching. If Ron and Fez weren't on 202, it wouldn't even be on my pre set now. I caught the last 15 minutes of the show last night before the Ron Fez replay and noticed Opie wasn't on. It probably was just a bit before they go on vacation again.
I've said this in another thread, I've been a fan of the guys since the AAF days. The show just isn't keeping me entertained anymore. The only reason I'm even checking out Wackbag is because it bothers me that I don't like the show anymore.

Let me state I love Ron and Fez.

But you say if Ron and Fez weren't on 202 you wouldn't even listen to the channel because the O&A show sucks now and "doesn't keep you entertained." Then in another post you say the show isn't popular and is being pulled from so many terrestial stations and not getting picked up again because the show sucks and people don't listen to it anymore.

You should know this as well as anybody. As Ron says all the time and says correctly, just because something is popular doesn't mean its good. Is American Idol good? Was Titanic good? Is Brittany Spears good? They are so wildly popular that they must be great according to your logic.

And because Ron and Fez are only on satellite and have not had a sniff of terrestial since Krock flipped format, does that make them not as good as Bubba?

Your logic is flawed. You just don't like the show, don't speak for everyone. I know plenty of people that still love the show and think Ron and Fez suck dick. ANd thats the worst thing you can say about a radio show. So don't listen to O&A anymore. That is the my solution to your problem.

[Yesterdays Hero]

I'm not listening anyomre, sorry I'm not an O/A ass kisser who can't admit the show has sucked for the last year. Why do you think they have been pulled out of every major market they were in? Their ratings sucked, and not enough people care about them outside of New York. If they were wanted so badly in Philly, Boston, and Clev, they would have found a new home by now. People just don't care.

Another cunt for the "I'm not going to listen to the show, but I'll post on their fansite" pile.

Said pile needs to be set on fire.

[sober]

"Fansite"

"Threads here should be specific to what O&A talk about over the air, or about the show itself. Anything else will be moved to the appropriate forums"

[OVERMAN]

Good for Opie. This new company hasn't supported the show at all. They will not let the do ANYTHING and they tell them not to talk in a negative way about stupid Howie, yet, he was taking little shots at them for about three weeks. Fuck this company.

My idea, start running promos for sex for sam 4 w/ clips from the old s4s. Maybe the stupid lawyers wont think anal beads and homeless shopping sprees are so bad

[NeonTaster]

I think the thing that got Opie to walk off wasn't the lawyers vetoing his anal beads bit. It was that the Sirius douche hung up on Steve and wouldn't discuss the matter. I think Opie is tired of being treated like that. His show is one of satellite radio's big acts, and he should at least get the consideration of a decent explanation once in a while. I'm glad he walked off. The Sirius suits need to learn to treat their talent with respect.

[Yesterdays Hero]

I think the thing that got Opie to walk off wasn't the lawyers vetoing his anal beads bit. It was that the Sirius douche hung up on Steve and wouldn't discuss the matter. I think Opie is tired of being treated like that. His show is one of satellite radio's big acts, and he should at least get the consideration of a decent explanation once in a while. I'm glad he walked off. The Sirius suits need to learn to treat their talent with respect.

^ This.

[Aaron Burrito]

"Fansite"

"Threads here should be specific to what O&A talk about over the air, or about the show itself. Anything else will be moved to the appropriate forums"

No, you don't get it, positive threads only!:rolleyes:

As soon as you provide any criticism or point out a negative about the show you're told to stop listening and leave the site. No matter what you say most of the people here don't want to hear it because OnA can do no wrong in their eyes and anyone who says otherwise is a hater.

The terrestrial side of the show is barely holding on and the siruis side is in constant turmoil yet god forbid anyone tries to talk about it.

[Pearce]

No, you don't get it, positive threads only!:rolleyes:

As soon as you provide any criticism or point out a negative about the show you're told to stop listening and leave the site. No matter what you say most of the people here don't want to hear it because OnA can do no wrong in their eyes and anyone who says otherwise is a hater.

The terrestrial side of the show is barely holding on and the siruis side is in constant turmoil yet god forbid anyone tries to talk about it.

If the show sucks and you don't like it, why would you waste time listening to the show and then proceed to waste time typing how much you don't like the show on a fan site of the show? If you don't enjoy the show, the logical thing to do is cancel your subscription, stop going to their fan sites, and completely rid your life of O&A because you're obviously not interested in listening anymore. There was a time you did, that time passed, move on with your life.

It shouldn't come as a surprise that taking a giant shit on the show on its fan site isn't going to be received well. That's why it's a fan site.

[ruckstande]

I'm all for sending this Greenfield, burgh, stein, or whatever urgh or ein he is cock pics. Fuck him.

[Steam]

If the show sucks and you don't like it, why would you waste time listening to the show and then proceed to waste time typing how much you don't like the show on a fan site of the show? If you don't enjoy the show, the logical thing to do is cancel your subscription, stop going to their fan sites, and completely rid your life of O&A because you're obviously not interested in listening anymore. There was a time you did, that time passed, move on with your life.

It shouldn't come as a surprise that taking a giant shit on the show on its fan site isn't going to be received well. That's why it's a fan site.

You see the problem is this, they have every right to come here and give their opinions on the show. And if at one point they were truly fans of the show they should be able to express why they are liking the show less now. That is fine. This site probably shouldn't be a bunch of people giving written blowjobs to Opie and Anthony. If they don't like a bit or a show, why not let them express their opinion? There are plenty of parts of the show that I don't like and I once in a while will say so but most of the time I just change the channel to something else or turn off the radio altogether. There is no way that the show can appeal 100% to me all the time. Its fucking impossible.

So I'm completely for people being able to voice their opinions honestly. It doesn't mean that everyone has to agree with said opinion but they should be entitled to have it. Sure some of their opinions are forced just so they can egg people on and then go back to their community of people who for some reason or another are obsessed with bashing a show (and fanbase) that they haven't enjoyed in years and point and laugh by saying "look at these idiots on wackbag, haha, we are so much cooler than them since we are so hip and edgy by our dislike of the show". They had to know going in what the general consensus of this board would be.

To address a valid complaint that they talk about how bad the bosses are, I would be inclined to agree with you. However, I know that I constantly complain about my job and some of the decisions of my boss. Wouldn't it be hypocritical of me to then tell these guys that they complain too much? Who knows maybe there are some people out there who are 100% happy with their job, but I would say that the vast majority are just like them. Opie and Anthony know what type of show they want to do and know what type of shows have made them successful in the past. If they feel their boss is stifling them then they should be allowed to say so in an attempt to force change. How many times have they bad mouthed a show or a jock for just sitting by as his/her/their boss just fucking owned them? Constantly. So now you want them to be what they have been making fun of for years? It doesn't make sense to me.

[goat999]

A little long winded, but I agree whole heartedly. The bbboys have kinda always been up front about the "behind the scenes" shit. Its part of the show.

[Ego]

I'm all for sending this Greenfield, burgh, stein, or whatever urgh or ein he is cock pics. Fuck him.

I still say we mail him doodies. By the gallon.

[TEXAS TRUCKER]

I'm all for sending this Greenfield, burgh, stein, or whatever urgh or ein he is cock pics. Fuck him.AAaaaahhhhh the good ole days. I miss E-Lo too!

[GovtMule1979]

If the show sucks and you don't like it, why would you waste time listening to the show and then proceed to waste time typing how much you don't like the show on a fan site of the show? If you don't enjoy the show, the logical thing to do is cancel your subscription, stop going to their fan sites, and completely rid your life of O&A because you're obviously not interested in listening anymore. There was a time you did, that time passed, move on with your life.

It shouldn't come as a surprise that taking a giant shit on the show on its fan site isn't going to be received well. That's why it's a fan site.

What else am I going to do with my time when there is a foot of snow on the ground, and still falling, and I have all my shopping done? Why would I cancel XM. I've had it since 02, two years before OandA were even on it. I was as big of a fan of this show as anyone. I was always talking them up and trying to get people to listen to it. I think the stuff they have done has been great. Now it's like when your favorite band puts out that new CD that sucks. You want to like it, you try to like it but it sucks... like Van Halen III.

[NeonTaster]

Now it's like when your favorite band puts out that new CD that sucks. You want to like it, you try to like it but it sucks... like Van Halen III.

Don't you get that that's exactly the shit that would get you kicked off a fan board? Using the word "sucks"?
If you wrote: "It's like when my favorite band puts out that new CD that I don't like." How about stating your own opinion instead of making a supposedly factual statement?

[GovtMule1979]

Don't you get that that's exactly the shit that would get you kicked off a fan board? Using the word "sucks"?
If you wrote: "It's like when my favorite band puts out that new CD that I don't like." How about stating your own opinion instead of making a supposedly factual statement?


Saying Van Halen III sucked is a factual statement. Sorry if I offended you Gary Cherone

[NeonTaster]

Saying Van Halen III sucked is a factual statement. Sorry if I offended you Gary Cherone

Van Halen was a metaphor for the show. YOUR metaphor for the show. I just used it.
The point was that fan boards do not prohibit criticism. They prohibit that type of criticism. You don't like it? Start a fucking blog.

[Pearce]

Saying Van Halen III sucked is a factual statement. Sorry if I offended you Gary Cherone

His point remains. There are people who say everything after AAF sucks, and everything after NEW sucks, and everything after early XM sucks, and in future years there will be people that go "They were great in 2008 but everything after that sucks". There are people out there who think the time you really loved the show was awful radio. The fact that you dislike the show now doesn't mean it's a fact that it sucks, it means you personally don't like it.

[Hog's Big Ben]

Their ratings sucked, and not enough people care about them outside of New York. If they were wanted so badly in Philly, Boston, and Clev, they would have found a new home by now.

That doesn't explain the ratings. It all fits together.

So, Ted Arbitron, what were their ratings? Since you two are in the know, spill it. Let's see their numbers and/or ranks with men 18-34, men 18-49 and men 25-54 in Boston, Philly, Cleveland & New York.

:action-sm

[EarthCrisis]

hahaha WTF

"Ted Arbitron"

that's great.

[NeonTaster]

hahaha WTF

"Ted Arbitron"

that's great.

Indeed. I did a spit take reading it.

[GovtMule1979]

I'm working on getting some numbers for you Hog's Big Ben. If the numbers were good Opie would have told us.

[Ballbuster1]

Of course they never got great numbers when they came back to Philly.

CBS never advertised for the show. I never saw any ads on buses, bilboards
local mags or papers. Never even heard them push the show with ads on their
own station. CBS sucked a fat cock here.

[JackFromBoston]

It was my understanding that O&A did superb here in Boston...

[Aaron Burrito]

If the show sucks and you don't like it, why would you waste time listening to the show and then proceed to waste time typing how much you don't like the show on a fan site of the show? If you don't enjoy the show, the logical thing to do is cancel your subscription, stop going to their fan sites, and completely rid your life of O&A because you're obviously not interested in listening anymore. There was a time you did, that time passed, move on with your life.

It shouldn't come as a surprise that taking a giant shit on the show on its fan site isn't going to be received well. That's why it's a fan site.

When did I say it sucks and I don't like it? I will say that in the last month I don't listen as much as I use to but I still think they put on a good product. That being said I also think it could be better. Jimmy made a great point a few days ago when he said they the show needs to get it's edge back and that they need to push the envelope (not an exact quote). And given what Anthony said it seems like they know they need to change things. He was talking about how the show is now just a chat show because they can't do any "stunts" or "bits". The question is, what are they going to do about it. They need to get this lawyer shit straightened out, figure out the rules and move forward.



I was as big of a fan of this show as anyone. I was always talking them up and trying to get people to listen to it. I think the stuff they have done has been great. Now it's like when your favorite band puts out that new CD that sucks. You want to like it, you try to like it but it sucks... like Van Halen III.

I agree with this. I have four XM subs and I talked the show up to everybody. If you got in my car you heard OnA. If you worked with me, you heard OnA. I thought the show degraded a little when they went back to FM but I understood the reasoning.

[Aaron Burrito]

So, Ted Arbitron, what were their ratings? Since you two are in the know, spill it. Let's see their numbers and/or ranks with men 18-34, men 18-49 and men 25-54 in Boston, Philly, Cleveland & New York.

:action-sm

So let me get this right, your opinion is that the show was getting great ratings and the stations decided to get rid of them anyway? Is that what you think?

So radio stations just got rid of their top rated and highest ad dollar programing for the hell of it? That's your point?

[noregrets418]

HAHAHAHAHA Van Halen III. Hard to believe the same group (give or take a lead singer) that made everything from Van Halen I-F.U.C.K. made that. I wasn't a fan of the go back to FM decision either, they should have known it was going to be a watered down version of their show. It sucks that all it seems like they can do is just make commentary on current headlines. And yeah popularity doesn't equal good. Van Halen can actually be an example of this: The first six albums with Roth didn't make it to #1. When Hagar took over they had four #1 albums and mostly everyone pretty much agrees the Roth era was the best.

[NeonTaster]

So let me get this right, your opinion is that the show was getting great ratings and the stations decided to get rid of them anyway? Is that what you think?

So radio stations just got rid of their top rated and highest ad dollar programing for the hell of it? That's your point?

The CBS corporate policy was to let local stations dictate programming. So yes, local stations did get rid of O & A DESPITE their ratings and put on programming that sucked. They talked about it several times on-air. And are you surprised? Radio is full of dummies. Many PDs just didn't like the show and wanted it gone. And terrestrial radio is in the shitter because of it.

[Aaron Burrito]

The CBS corporate policy was to let local stations dictate programming. So yes, local stations did get rid of O & A DESPITE their ratings and put on programming that sucked. They talked about it several times on-air. And are you surprised? Radio is full of dummies. Many PDs just didn't like the show and wanted it gone. And terrestrial radio is in the shitter because of it.

If they truly had good ratings and brought in good money no station would drop them and take a risk with new programming on a whim. At the end of the day the ratings weren't all that great and didn't justify the cost. Making it easier for the P.D.'s that didn't like them to justify the move.

[BeerBelly]

fuck the lawyers make them bleed

[oandapartycock]

Don't the stations still have to pay O&A? If that's the case, the local PD's truly are dummies. That's already been evidenced by their failure to promote them on any level, except for maybe Boston.

[NeonTaster]

If they truly had good ratings and brought in good money no station would drop them and take a risk with new programming on a whim. At the end of the day the ratings weren't all that great and didn't justify the cost. Making it easier for the P.D.'s that didn't like them to justify the move.

Why is it so hard to believe that the PD in West Palm Beach, FL made a bad business move? If the show taught us one thing, it's that radio is full of stupid people who make bad business decisions. Plus, O&A's ratings will always be slightly lower due to the fact that they compete against themselves on satellite, but the stations knew this coming in.

It just doesn't seem far fetched at all that they'd be taken out of markets they were doing well in. What about Boston? Every trend about Boston they mentioned on the show (which included the last 3 or 4 before BCN kicked them off) was extremely good. They got cut to save money.

[Chino Kapone]

Did I miss somehting? "whaa"

[alanalda]

Why is it so hard to believe that the PD in West Palm Beach, FL made a bad business move? If the show TOLD us one thing, it's that radio is full of stupid people who make bad business decisions. Plus, O&A's ratings will always be slightly lower due to the fact that THEY HAVE TOLD US they compete against themselves on satellite, but the stations knew this coming in.

http://phonedifferent.com/images/2007/09/koolaid5b.jpg

[Pearce]

Op gave numbers for Philly they day after they were booted. 4th men 18-49 and 3rd men 18-34. He even said that's nothing to brag about but that it's not bad and the numbers were going up every book. You don't get rid of a show in that position. Imagine if they would've just stuck with it and gave them another year instead of panicking, imagine if the ratings kept ticking up that whole year long period and all of a sudden they're competing for the #1 slot in male demos. YSP would be in a great position. Instead, they panicked and so far they've tried Kidd Chris, a music show, and right now they're trying Bonaduce. They have no fucking idea what they want to do. They think something is just going to set the world on fire instantly and when it doesn't, they throw that out the window and do something else, tossing away whatever audience they're starting to build every 6-months-to-a-year. Nothing ever gets a chance to build momentum when that happens.

[DonTheTrucker]

CBS is hemorrhaging money. Putting on a local show where the jocks make $8 an hour or even better an iPod format with voicetracked shows (where a 4 hour show can be done in an hour of actual work, hence cutting payroll by 75%) is the only way they think they can make money. Advertising on radio isn't selling. This isn't unique to O&A, CBS or Sirius XM. All radio and radio shows are hurting now. The medium is dying.

[Girlfan69]

Of course they never got great numbers when they came back to Philly.

CBS never advertised for the show. I never saw any ads on buses, bilboards
local mags or papers. Never even heard them push the show with ads on their
own station. CBS sucked a fat cock here.


They promoted them when they started in NY.

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q233/GirlFanFBA/untitled.jpg

Not sure if anyone mention this before (thread was too long for me to read everything) but where were the lawyers when Jimmy and Dennis from the Bunny Ranch were DP'ing Patty with their fingers, and they won't let them use anal beads on her? Lame excuse in my opinion. If they let them do that, what is wrong with the beads. Missed the show on Friday, but heard that this happened. And did anyone else hear that they weren't going to allow fans to come upstairs anymore to watch the show? Any truth to this one?

[Ziti Lo Mein]

I heard they might have to move to the Sirius building to let the company save some dollars. Hence the reason I went up there last thursday. I assume if they move to another studio there won't be room for a studio audience. D:

Which sucks because now I'd want to see them again sometime.

I don't see why they'd forbid an audience from seeing the show, though, other than space limitations. Theres nothing bad that comes from an audience, and infact it can sometimes even improve the show. I hope the rumors aren't the case and the audience remains. It'd be stupid to forbid an audience from seeing the show to cover the company's ass from potential lawsuits or one stupid fan taking something the wrong way and complaining or something like that.

[patbattlefield]

I have listened to a couple shows in the past few months. I can tell the show isn't fun for the guys and that makes it kind of a drag to listen to. Doesn't look like that's going to be changing anytime soon.

[Zuke]

I assume the lawyers have a problem with the hosts paying someone to put something in one of their orifices. With most women, I'd be upset about it. However, I as so fucking tired of that obnoxious cunt Patty that I could puke. It might be fun to watch her do humiliating shit in person, but it is radio cyanide.

[zoal]

This seriously a 10page thread? listen to the shows and stop it.

[GovtMule1979]

I have listened to a couple shows in the past few months. I can tell the show isn't fun for the guys and that makes it kind of a drag to listen to. Doesn't look like that's going to be changing anytime soon.


That was the best post on this thread. That's exactly what is wrong with the show.

[Freese]

someone once said...

doomed, motherfucking doomed.

[deathtrip]

all I know is, I've been waiting for my WoW sticker since 2000

[DonTheTrucker]

where were the lawyers when Jimmy and Dennis from the Bunny Ranch were DP'ing Patty with their fingers

This was before the operational part of the merger was complete. The suits actually listen to the show now.

Besides, who thinks that shit is good radio? The only concern that I have with this, is that once they take away the sex acts, the next thing to go is racial humor.

[Freese]

Then teh death of sat rad. keep going shitdicks.

[psyduck]

You truly don't get it.

Its a bit...

If they were really that pissed off about the lawyers, among other things, they wouldn't collect a paycheck. Instead, they're millionaires and want complete control, which will never happen.

They spend way to much fucking time bitching about lawyers on air, they know what they can and cannot do, its that simple, get over it.

[psyduck]

"The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers"

William Shakespeare

:action-sm:action-sm:action-sm:action-sm

[Hog's Big Ben]

I have listened to a couple shows in the past few months.

:icon_roll Thanks for the effort.

[kidohio]

im scared

[patbattlefield]

:icon_roll Thanks for the effort.

Not a problem.

[LiddyRules]

Besides, who thinks that shit is good radio? The only concern that I have with this, is that once they take away the sex acts, the next thing to go is racial humor. I agree with you Don. I find the sex stuff overall lame- be it girls getting naked, interns having sex with a blow up doll, or Patty getting paid for anal beads.

But, like many of us have said, it's the principle of the thing. They start preventing them from doing things they want to do, it undermines the show, it opens them up for more restrictions, and it destroys show morale which hurts the show.

[DonTheTrucker]

I agree with you Don. I find the sex stuff overall lame- be it girls getting naked, interns having sex with a blow up doll, or Patty getting paid for anal beads.

But, like many of us have said, it's the principle of the thing. They start preventing them from doing things they want to do, it undermines the show, it opens them up for more restrictions, and it destroys show morale which hurts the show.

Yeah that's why I qualified that statement. And apparently there are horndogs that are interested in the sex stuff. They wouldn't be doing it otherwise. And any kind of restrictions just starts that slippery slope.

[beavereatter]

f$%^ing lawers,and they were getting the gay out of the show

[AnalLeakage]

Howard's Sybian fucktoy seems to be fake, too. The girls just ride the saddle without putting the dong attachment in them. This isn't anything new.

Someone just posted this on another O+A site.. it's the sybian attachment Howie uses and the words "No Insertion" are actually on the site. Its basically a high powered sideways clit vibrator I guess.

http://i41.tinypic.com/10p3kvc.jpg

http://www.sybfun.com/attach.html

[Ego]

If someone can get me this killjoy's mailing info, I'll send doodies to him myself. Just PM me with it whenever you can

[WarshCloth]

f$%^ing lawers,and they were getting the gay out of the show

They will never get the gay out of the show...

Gay is funny...funny is good...thus gay is good

[SwimConnerSwim]

This seriously a 10page thread? listen to the shows and stop it.

This.

[LDO]

Gay is funny...funny is good...thus gay is good

Didn't Michael Douglas say that in Wall Street?

[Vyce]

I'm going to disagree with some people in this thread.....normally, I'm the sort of guy who complains about O&A complaining - at least when they complain about things like message boards and shit like that.

But they're totally valid here. Opie's right to get pissed. The only fucking thing that distinguishes the XM O&A show from the regular radio O&A show is their ability to do more risque humor and content. Start stripping away that, and you're just left with another version of the regular radio gig, except perhaps with some naughtier language (although I'm sure that's going to go away next too).

And when that happens, then what's the fucking point of listening. Because a part of why the regular radio gig isn't working out, IMO, is because they can't fucking do shit on their regular radio show, other than just discuss the news and have the occasional celebrity interview.

[tysonpunchinguterus]

They were pulled off in Cleveland because the station changed formats. The show's ratings weren't the problem, it was the stations' ratings overall. In Boston, I don't know what their last rating was, but they were doing well in every one leading up to that. Do you think BCN dropped them over one ratings book? Don't you think it's more likely that they decided to cut costs and get cheaper local talent instead of a more expensive syndicated show? Also, it's expected that Mel won't allow the show to continue on FM (or at least not the way it is now). He said that before they re-signed with SiriusXM, so it's pretty likely that their contract deals with that matter. If you were running BCN and saw ad revenue dropping in a shitty economy and knew that your morning show could possibly be gone in the Spring, would you continue to air that show or let another show build an audience for that slot now or sit back and wait until the last second?

Why do you think they have been pulled out of every major market they were in? Their ratings sucked, and not enough people care about them outside of New York. If they were wanted so badly in Philly, Boston, and Clev, they would have found a new home by now. People just don't care.

[WOWmagnet]

f$%^ing lawers,and they were getting the gay out of the show

Patty with anal beads = worse than gay...if there can be such a thing.

[patbattlefield]

I'm going to disagree with some people in this thread.....normally, I'm the sort of guy who complains about O&A complaining - at least when they complain about things like message boards and shit like that.

But they're totally valid here. Opie's right to get pissed. The only fucking thing that distinguishes the XM O&A show from the regular radio O&A show is their ability to do more risque humor and content. Start stripping away that, and you're just left with another version of the regular radio gig, except perhaps with some naughtier language (although I'm sure that's going to go away next too).

And when that happens, then what's the fucking point of listening. Because a part of why the regular radio gig isn't working out, IMO, is because they can't fucking do shit on their regular radio show, other than just discuss the news and have the occasional celebrity interview.

And by no fault of their own when they are pissed and rightly so it makes the show less enjoyable. I gradually stopped listening over the past year and I barely tune in now. I used to really enjoy the show but when I tune in now it just feels off. The true believers will just write this off as bullshit but soon they will be sitting in a dark room all alone listening to recordings of old shows and wonder what happened.

[Pearce]

Yes, that's it. You don't like the show anymore so obviously noone else will want to listen. Again, AAF, WNEW, XM only, CBS/XM, there are people who are fans of each era and think everything after sucks. You passed the time that you liked the show. That doesn't mean most other people will. The people who think the AAF stuff was golden and everything after that sucks would say the same thing as you, that anything after AAF "just feels off" and the time that you enjoyed the show sucked.

[LiddyRules]

And for the people who complain about the XM show being "called-in" now, right now they are operating at 200% compared to what will happen months down the road. As they keep having things taken away from them, how do you think they'll respond to it? With renewed vigor or by feeling defeated? With FM you know there's going to be restrictions but when XM starts restricting them what's the point?

And this is clearly not just about the anal beads or sex things. The Homeless Shopping Spree. The Egg Nog Drinking Challenge. Interns fooling around with a sex doll. No more audiences. And there's obviously more behind the scenes that we don't know about. In many of these things, Sirius-XM seems to be trying to assert dominance over O+A for no other reason than to assert their dominance. And it's hard to fight against corporate when there's no one in management fighting for you. (With XM, they had Logan on their side. Who's with them on Sirius-XM? Wicky?)

And with all those factors lining up against them how do they'll respond? With renewed vigor and a fire in their bellies or with bitterness, cynicism and a defeated attitude?

[WOWmagnet]

The true believers will just write this off as bullshit but soon they will be sitting in a dark room all alone listening to recordings of old shows and wonder what happened.

Can we at least drink while doing this?

[LiddyRules]

Can we at least drink while doing this?

Drinking, smoking. It's a dark dive bar mostly illuminated by the red neon light on the outside. Your sitting on a bar stool slowly sipping your whiskey. The ashtray is right next to you but you're too depressed to ash. The sounds of Anthony imitating Dice play, but at this point its merely comforting, familiar white noise as you stare dead eyed at the line of bottles in front of you.

You don't know the time but a couple of girls- already drunk- wander in. They're merely fivess but that's considerably higher than the norm. They look at the jukebox and ask why it has nothing but songs labeled "Razor Roller Board Scooter," "Black Earl Hangs Pictures," and "NRA Theme Restaurant."

From the crappy speaker Opie says, "We'll go to break." The sound of a changing album. "Say Anthony," Opie continues, "I heard we're going to have Ronald Reagan on the phone today."

The girls leave the bar. No one has paid them any attention. The bar tender refills your glass.

At least that's the imagery I got.

[Gonzoid]

The people who think the AAF stuff was golden and everything after that sucks would say the same thing as you, that anything after AAF "just feels off" and the time that you enjoyed the show sucked.

Being a listener from the "NEW Days" on, after hearing the tapes of them from AAF, I think can safely say that there would be no one alive who thinks that is their greatest era.

[WOWmagnet]

Drinking, smoking crack. It's a dark dive tranny bar mostly illuminated by the red neon light that reads "HOTEL" on the outside. You're sitting on an upside-down bar stool slowly sipping your friends dick. The ashtray is right next to you but you're too depressed to ash. The sounds of Anthony rantig about "oily anal discharge" play, but at this point its merely disquieting, familiar white noise as you stare dead eyed at the line of methamphetamine in front of you.

You don't know your name, but a couple of "girls" - already drunk- wander in. They're merely six-five in heels but that's considerably taller than the norm. They look at the jukebox and ask why it has nothing but songs labeled "You Spin Me (Right 'Round)," and "Sleeves- Christams Song."

From the crappy speaker Opie says, "We'll go to break." The sound of a changing album. "Say Anthony," Opie continues, "What about those hair-plugs?"

The "girls" leave the bar. No one has paid them any attention. The bartender refills your half-empty glass.

At least that's the imagery I got.


Fixed for grammer and accuracy.

[LiddyRules]

Fixed for grammer and accuracy. How is it fixed for grammAr and accuracy when his point was based upon listening to "old shows" and your show examples were from the past six months?

[WOWmagnet]

How is it fixed for grammAr and accuracy when his point was based upon listening to "old shows" and your show examples were from the past six months?

It's all relative. Bartender is one word. :action-sm

[kloraferm]

Being a listener from the "NEW Days" on, after hearing the tapes of them from AAF, I think can safely say that there would be no one alive who thinks that is their greatest era.
No doubt they did alot of funny stuff in the AAF days, but that's not even close to their best stuff.

[WOWmagnet]

No doubt they did alot of funny stuff in the AAF days, but that's not even close to their best stuff.

Some of the WNEW stuff is overrated also.

[MayrMeninoCrash]

Being a listener from the "NEW Days" on, after hearing the tapes of them from AAF, I think can safely say that there would be no one alive who thinks that is their greatest era.

Since you aren't aware of what the alternatives were on Boston area radio, I can see you are clearly talking out of your ass. For the time period (pre-Satellite, working an afternoon drive talk/music show) they were on top of their game. And they were always about pushing the envelope too, and I'm sure got away with a lot of stuff that would put te FCC's panties in a wad now. Plus they were only the 2 man show and did not have a third mic to rely on.

I cannot speak from experience on their WNEW days, but based on anecdotal evidence I've heard they grew from their AAF days.....adding lil Jimmy, Jaeger machine, porno bus, that type of stuff.

Now they just seem defeated and calling it in. It's possible they still have fresh ideas, but they are clearly so neutered by someone (lawyers?, Mel?, Howie?) that they feel they cannot share and do the show they want. This translates to me as really boring and repetitive radio.

[EnwordLips]

I think this kind of thing is happening because of the Bubba lawsuit awhile back.

Its obviously not to avoid people being offended

[patbattlefield]

Yes, that's it. You don't like the show anymore so obviously noone else will want to listen. Again, AAF, WNEW, XM only, CBS/XM, there are people who are fans of each era and think everything after sucks. You passed the time that you liked the show. That doesn't mean most other people will. The people who think the AAF stuff was golden and everything after that sucks would say the same thing as you, that anything after AAF "just feels off" and the time that you enjoyed the show sucked.

Like I said.

[PatFromMoonachie]

"I'm Done. I might come back. I don't know."



..That's what I said about the "All You Can Eat" buffet and I came back ..so will Opie! :icon_wink

[TheCableNazi]

oh Pat!

[ruckstande]

I'd like to know the reasoning behind not playing "O&A bestest bits" ever again. The only time I heard them was the first time they played it. Was there a management decision not to play it or was it too graphic. Do they even say "cunt" anymore? I haven't noticed but they used to use that term a lot.

[livebackwards]

I'd like to know the reasoning behind not playing "O&A bestest bits" ever again. The only time I heard them was the first time they played it. Was there a management decision not to play it or was it too graphic. Do they even say "cunt" anymore? I haven't noticed but they used to use that term a lot.

Yeah, they still say "cunt", especially when Louis CK is on. Motherfucker cracks that word like a whip.

*sigh* This whole thing is just so sad. The entire spectacle of watching executive noodges bungling things so badly because they have no concept of allowing the entertainers to do what they do best because the execs are so blinded by focus groups, alarmist media fables, and poorly-worded complaint letters written in crayon. I just read an interview with Trent Reznor and it sounds almost exactly like what he said was going on in the record industry in the 90's, and now the mainstream record companies are as irrelevant as satellite radio is going to be in a couple of months thanks to the incompetent, cowardly management.

Mel Karmazi and his stooges have no business talking to, controlling, or interacting with artists or entertainers in any way.

[GovtMule1979]

Yes, that's it. You don't like the show anymore so obviously noone else will want to listen. Again, AAF, WNEW, XM only, CBS/XM, there are people who are fans of each era and think everything after sucks. You passed the time that you liked the show. That doesn't mean most other people will. The people who think the AAF stuff was golden and everything after that sucks would say the same thing as you, that anything after AAF "just feels off" and the time that you enjoyed the show sucked.

Pearce, you and a lot of the people on Wackbag are die hard fans. O&A could be caught with dead hookers in their closets, and you would find a way to stick up for them. That is great, I'm glad you still like the show that much. I don't have numbers, but I'd be willing to bet that a lot of the less active fans like myself have tuned out over the last year. I'm not saying the AAF days or NEW days were the greatest. I used to pay the $2 a month or whatever it was when you had to pay extra to hear them. I was a real big fan, but the show lost something. It is painful to listen to now.

[Arch Stanton]

"I'm Done. I might come back. I don't know."



..That's what I said about the "All You Can Eat" buffet and I came back ..so will Opie! :icon_wink

As long as they don't take away the food from the show they will still come back. There was one time recently when the funniest guy in the room on the subject, coaxing someone to mess around with a blow up doll, had his mouth stuffed with food during the segment. Really adds to the show. They have made that a trademark of the show.

Look, I'm with most of you. Being told you can do less and less, have subject matter taken away is terrible. It is frustrating as a performer. You now have to change gears and be better doing it. Not easy.

As for the eating on mic, trying to get a great point across, well, maybe listeners dig that.

[gleet]

As long as they don't take away the food from the show they will still come back. There was one time recently when the funniest guy in the room on the subject, coaxing someone to mess around with a blow up doll, had his mouth stuffed with food during the segment. Really adds to the show. They have made that a trademark of the show.

As for the eating on mic, trying to get a great point across, well, maybe listeners dig that.

I've often wondered about that. I get up at 4:30 and eat breakfast, then at noon, I eat lunch. These three shovel down the bagels and sammiches and apple cakes and omelets from 6 til 11 every day. How hungry can they be?

Oh, and Mel should die, preferably this week. ;)

[Freese]

I hope Op at least acknowledges what went down.

[Glenn Dandy]

Hey I can finally say it and mean it!:
I blame the Jews!

You dont normaly mean it?:icon_conf

[Pearce]

Pearce, you and a lot of the people on Wackbag are die hard fans. O&A could be caught with dead hookers in their closets, and you would find a way to stick up for them. That is great, I'm glad you still like the show that much. I don't have numbers, but I'd be willing to bet that a lot of the less active fans like myself have tuned out over the last year. I'm not saying the AAF days or NEW days were the greatest. I used to pay the $2 a month or whatever it was when you had to pay extra to hear them. I was a real big fan, but the show lost something. It is painful to listen to now.

And I'm guaranteeing you that's not the case. The show is constantly changing, and because it's constantly changing, there are constantly new fans being added and old fans being lost. That's always how it is with a radio show. It's not something new. Just because you personally have fallen into the "old fans being lost" doesn't mean most other people have.

Following that logic, the people who listened on AAF who would say "The show has been painful to listen to since WNEW, I'm willing to bet the less active fans like me have tuned out" when O&A were syndicated to BCN the first time must have been right. Right? Of course not. You're not basing your idea that they've lost a bunch of listeners on anything other than the fact that you've lost interest, but that's ALWAYS happened. Very few fans are going to stick by the show in every single form over the course of its entire run, it's almost impossible, so for you to make a statement like that with the only backing being that "I personally stopped listening so everyone other than diehards must have too" is silly. There will always be people finding and leaving the show.

[ruckstande]

And I'm guaranteeing you that's not the case. The show is constantly changing, and because it's constantly changing, there are constantly new fans being added and old fans being lost. That's always how it is with a radio show. It's not something new. Just because you personally have fallen into the "old fans being lost" doesn't mean most other people have.

Following that logic, the people who listened on AAF who would say "The show has been painful to listen to since WNEW, I'm willing to bet the less active fans like me have tuned out" when O&A were syndicated to BCN the first time must have been right. Right? Of course not. You're not basing your idea that they've lost a bunch of listeners on anything other than the fact that you've lost interest, but that's ALWAYS happened. Very few fans are going to stick by the show in every single form over the course of its entire run, it's almost impossible, so for you to make a statement like that with the only backing being that "I personally stopped listening so everyone other than diehards must have too" is silly. There will always be people finding and leaving the show.

Is it really smart to keep "changing" though when you are a successful show? Stupid Stern had the same awful dumb show for over 20 years and consistently stayed on top in the ratings in his time slot. What reason would he have to change? He puts on the same shit now but less frequently, he brought his die hards along with him and his same fans will put on the same excuse as you. I liked WNEW a lot and that is the reason why I got XM. I for one fell in love with the show when it was on XM only. Now it has changed and not for the good. It isn't like WNEW or the XM only show. Fuck, the one half of the show can't even bother to come in because A)he's getting laid, B)he has a card game, C)his mom and step father are being acknowledged for being married. Why should we be so enthusiastic about the show when the host isn't? I agree that the management is keeping the show down and maybe that is why they have to change at this point in the shows existence but they need to stick to their guns and fight to put on the show people wanted to hear.

[GovtMule1979]

We'll agree to disagree... I think they're losing more then they're picking up these days.

[EarthCrisis]

I've noticed over the years that the bbboys sound very frustrated all the time because of all the bullshit rules. What a shame, they went from being on NEW and having some broad shoot bottle rockets out of her cunt to fighting with some douche lawyers over having a naked chick in the studio. unreal. Hell i remember them playing Godsmack songs uncensored on NEW and they laughed it off when they realized it wasn't bleeped.

Maybe they just need to go to afternoons and drink during the show. And Ant needs to do more impressions.

[ruckstande]

I've noticed over the years that the bbboys sound very frustrated all the time because of all the bullshit rules. What a shame, they went from being on NEW and having some broad shoot bottle rockets out of her cunt to fighting with some douche lawyers over having a naked chick in the studio. unreal. Hell i remember them playing Godsmack songs uncensored on NEW and they laughed it off when they realized it wasn't bleeped.

Maybe they just need to go to afternoons and drink during the show. And Ant needs to do more impressions.

They need to molest another underage broad again.

[Freese]

They need to molest another underage broad again.

Do they?

[cokelogic]

"I'm Done. I might come back. I don't know."



..That's what I said about the "All You Can Eat" buffet and I came back ..so will Opie! :icon_winkhttp://www.cokelogic.com/temp/unicorn.jpg

I hope Op at least acknowledges what went down.I'm thinking he walked off the show, he got right on the phone with DC. I think an important part of all our speculation is I don't think for a second that Opie just went home. He walked off, but he charged into the office to kick some ass.

[Freese]

http://www.cokelogic.com/temp/unicorn.jpg

I'm thinking he walked off the show, he got right on the phone with DC. I think an important part of all our speculation is I don't think for a second that Opie just went home. He walked off, but he charged into the office to kick some ass.

I certainly hope he did, and I hope he can talk about it on air. Not that we have a right to know everything, but man, us sat rad guys, we do pay for this crap, it would be nice to know about what's going on.

[ghirshorn]

I hope Opie gave the suits in DC a piece of his mind but on the other hand I hope he kept his composure and was clear headed enough not to do anything stupid that he may live to regret.

[sportsboytony]

Wow, I read every last one of these.

Here's my take that probably none of you care about. I feared that putting them on XM and allowing less-censored radio would take away their creativity. I think it has (Same for Howard..although Howwy doesn't swear anywhere near as much as the boys, although Artie certainly does). It used to be fun to hear them dance around the language, now they're no shock appeal whatsoever on the XM side.

As for those that say O&A aren't a hack show b/c they fly off the cuff, I think that's BS. I've been listening to many of the WNEW days lately, and sure, you have your random show of them riffing on a car-chase with other comedians for two hours, but lots of it was scripted. So much of Howard's legendary shows (for those here that will acknowledge he had some good shows) were so scripted. There's a way to be funny with scripted material.. let's not act like that's all necessarily hack.

They have not been bringing in anywhere near the comedians of late. I think Norton (who nobody seems to criticize here) has been horrible of late. He's still one of my favorite comedians and he's the best third mic, but Jimmy is down to doing nothing more than his Ted voices and Uncle Paul. It's gotten stale for me personally.

Nobody does an interview with wackjobs better than O&A. I remember when they would bring in Kreskin or anyone releasing a book, it's either great comedy, or very entertaining interviews (when Jimmy or Opie do their research). They haven't done very many interviews of late..)

Jocktober is the only good span of radio they've done in the last two years (IMO). Plus, they had other comedians sit in with them..like Louie CK and Nick Dip. It was hilarious, and it never got old for me.

Anything with Intern David has been terrible and desperate. It was funny to make fun of him the first week and to hear him do the jew news.. but other than that, get him off.

I just think five hours a day is too much radio (I never thought I would ever say that). If they actually did some prep work and filled 3 or 4 hours and brought in interviews..it could be like the old day..maybe.

[Skeet Slambone]

Jim Brown, Sandy Kaufax, Barry Sanders...

O&A should have followed their lead about a year and half ago.

[LiddyRules]

It used to be fun to hear them dance around the language, now they're no shock appeal whatsoever on the XM side. So? I don't know what you mean about "shock appeal" but if it's the surprise factor from humor that Norton talks about, that's about context and timing- not content. If it's simply dirty words you're talking about, that's not really funny. And they do have to dance around language constantly on FM. If given the choice, they're smart enough broadcasters to know when the comedy is in dancing around the language in explaining things and when it's better just to say fuck or shit.

By putting the blame on language that's like saying R rated movies can't be funny.

They have not been bringing in anywhere near the comedians of late. I think Norton (who nobody seems to criticize here) has been horrible of late. He's still one of my favorite comedians and he's the best third mic, but Jimmy is down to doing nothing more than his Ted voices and Uncle Paul. It's gotten stale for me personally. He also combats Anthony's ill-informed political views with ill-informed political views of his own. And there's always the constant **** jokes.

And I don't get how you can say he's the best third mic yet he's gotten stale. If you think he's bad at his job currently, it's fair to say he should be switched out and replaced with [fill in comedian's name here]. After all, this is your opinion. And other/new comedians do come on the show- DL Hughley, Bobby Kelly, Jeff Ross, others. I don't know how often you want new comedians in but they've been appearing pretty regularly lately.

Nobody does an interview with wackjobs better than O&A. I can't argue with this one. Bad Guest Day is one of my all time favorite bits and it disappoints me that it's more or less fallen by the wayside. Maybe they didn't want to blow up Roland's spot. But Franchise O+A with Rick Flair was great.

Jocktober is the only good span of radio they've done in the last two years (IMO). Plus, they had other comedians sit in with them..like Louie CK and Nick Dip. It was hilarious, and it never got old for me. So when did their well of comedians dry up? A month and a half ago? And there's been nothing funny for two years yet Jocktober with "See! Bad Jokes!! Hack!!" every day was amazing? Especially when they've done variations of Jocktober over the past two years sometimes spending upwards to a week on certain shows.

Jim Pacino is funnier.

And you began this post with being mad at them/us for calling scripted shows "hack" yet the only good thing O+A has done was doing the same thing.

Anything with Intern David has been terrible and desperate. I'm not going to argue here.

I just think five hours a day is too much radio (I never thought I would ever say that). You mean you didn't think that having to fill up a fifth of the day with constantly blabber would be a lot for people to undertake?

If they actually did some prep work and filled 3 or 4 hours and brought in interviews..it could be like the old day..maybe.Maybe...someday...hopefully...once...ev entually.

[cokelogic]

Jim Brown, Sandy Kaufax, Barry Sanders...

O&A should have followed their lead about a year and half ago.Become athletes? :action-sm

And if you are thinking they're should have retired, you can take a long walk off a battleship. :mad4:

[sportsboytony]

So? I don't know what you mean about "shock appeal" but if it's the surprise factor from humor that Norton talks about, that's about context and timing- not content. If it's simply dirty words you're talking about, that's not really funny. And they do have to dance around language constantly on FM. If given the choice, they're smart enough broadcasters to know when the comedy is in dancing around the language in explaining things and when it's better just to say fuck or shit.

By putting the blame on language that's like saying R rated movies can't be funny.

He also combats Anthony's ill-informed political views with ill-informed political views of his own. And there's always the constant **** jokes.

And I don't get how you can say he's the best third mic yet he's gotten stale. If you think he's bad at his job currently, it's fair to say he should be switched out and replaced with [fill in comedian's name here]. After all, this is your opinion. And other/new comedians do come on the show- DL Hughley, Bobby Kelly, Jeff Ross, others. I don't know how often you want new comedians in but they've been appearing pretty regularly lately.

I can't argue with this one. Bad Guest Day is one of my all time favorite bits and it disappoints me that it's more or less fallen by the wayside. Maybe they didn't want to blow up Roland's spot. But Franchise O+A with Rick Flair was great.

So when did their well of comedians dry up? A month and a half ago? And there's been nothing funny for two years yet Jocktober with "See! Bad Jokes!! Hack!!" every day was amazing? Especially when they've done variations of Jocktober over the past two years sometimes spending upwards to a week on certain shows.

Jim Pacino is funnier.

And you began this post with being mad at them/us for calling scripted shows "hack" yet the only good thing O+A has done was doing the same thing.

I'm not going to argue here.

You mean you didn't think that having to fill up a fifth of the day with constantly blabber would be a lot for people to undertake?

Maybe...someday...hopefully...once...eventually.

That was way too constructive a rebuttal to be featured on this site.
It wasn't meant as a polemic against the show, it's still the best thing going for me and I laugh often. There's no such thing as a perfect show, but I do think there's a balance between that and completely mailed-in shows. And I wouldn't begruge the boys for mailing one in now and then if they were doing historic radio like they did during the NEW days when they took off.

As for Norton, still love him just think he's gotten stale. Doesn't mean he can't recapture the magic for me personally. But clearly, most of you think he's just fine so maybe I'm off. I actually think Jimmy is better now when he's interviewing people with topics he knows about then anything else lately.

Anth is great with riffing on the news... (just not the political stuff, and no, that has nothing to do with which side of the fence I'm on). But seriously, Anth can do imitations and hasn't come up with a new one in how many years? Just seems like he's content and he doesn't feel like doing anything new for the show other than showcasing his ridiculously quick wit.

So yeah, to be honest, I want a more scripted show. The boys have proven they can succeed with that format. Their XM shows over the last few months have been really hard to not fast forward through for me personally. I realize we all have different sensibilities and opinions, but just them doing intern stuff or acting all punch happy for the last 90 minutes just doesn't do it for me.

[Zuke]

It used to be fun to hear them dance around the language, now they're no shock appeal whatsoever on the XM side.

It was never fun to hear them be careful not to say the potty words. It's fake and disingenuous. I prefer to listen to guys conversing like they would if they were sitting around a table at home. If you want to hear fake voices talking about fake stuff then listen to Maxwell.

[Pearce]

Anthony's imitations these days are spontaneous. They'll play a clip and he'll come up with a spot-on impersonation of the person in the clip, do a few minutes on that, and move on. He doesn't go off on 20 minute impression tangents doing every possible joke for the situation because the format of the show is different. That was a great time waster with just him and Opie, but there's more that can be done with the 3rd mic dynamic, so he'll usually just go off with some really strong lines for a minute or 2 and they move on.

[noregrets418]

Anthony is GREAT with the impressions. His Imus is spot on.

[Beeman99]

I became a fan of the show when they first started on XM. I had never heard of them, I was activating my illegal XM unit a week before it started, and the asian lady asked me if I wanted to pay the extra 1.99 a month for Playboy and another 1.99 a month for "High Voltage". I had no interest in Playboy, but she told me a very brief description of what High Voltage was going to be, so I said sure, I was new to the service, and it sounded like something that would be different. I listened on Day One, and I was hooked. It was unlike anything I had ever heard before, and I couldn't wait for the next days show. They were doing and saying whatever the hell they wanted, even if it was things that I had always found funny but had been under the impression that you could never say or do those things. That was the appeal of the show. I dl'd Demented World among other bits that were floating around from AAF and NEW, and while they were funny, none of them had the rawness of the XM show for the first two years or so. Anything went, and it was great.

Then came their move back to FreeFM. I wasn't sure what to make of that as they had done nothing but bash the platform and the FCC. I had never heard them before XM, so I figured that a FM portion to the show would be boring as fuck. And it was for the first few months as they tried to get their dicks wet with a "Censored" show once again. It sounded like a lot of tippy toeing around and rehashing of XM stuff that had gone on the previous two years (which I know needed to happen, but I tuned out of the FM show most of the time during this). Eventually, they learned somewhat on how to do a FreeFM show that wasn't boring on slow paced. It still didn't have the rawness and "shock" value of the XM show, so I pretty much always skipped the FM show and only listened to the XM portion.

Then came the suspension, I wasn't one of the ones that lost their mind over it and became an annoying cunt about it. I wasn't happy about it, and I didn't agree with them getting suspended over what Homeless Charlie said as they had said and done far worse before that. That was the start of me not listening regularly. It was kind of nice to have my 5 hours a day back that I committed faithfully to the show. But I also found other thing to fill my time with while they were suspended.

Once they came back, I would tune in when I got the chance, but for the first while it seemed like they were bound and gagged by the lawyers, and a lot of the energy the show had was gone. The FM portion truly became about reading the news and commenting on it, with the odd guest coming in. The XM show became a bitch fest about the FM show, and the odd commentary that was R rated. The bits disappeared, the show took on a whole new sound.

It became a show that was still interesting to listen to, was still better than anything else on the radio, but it didn't have the "I have to listen today to see what fucking insane shit they said/did on the show" that made me listen faithfully to the whole show daily. It became something that you could tune into if you got the chance, but weren't really missing much if you didn't daily. If something happened that was unusual, you could find out on WB and either catch the replay or dl the said portion. Unfortunately, those portions were short and usually rare.

Now, is this the boys fault, not really. XM, CBS, and now Sirius have tied their tongues and told them that they can't do any of the shit they used to. They are doing the best show that they are allowed to, and they realize that there are more days than not that it's really not that interesting to listen to (Ant even admitted this on Friday before Op stormed off). What can they do to change this, fuck all IMO. As some have said, they can just "Strike" the sat portion of the show, which would wind leading to them getting the boot from the platform, and they'd do a watered down and even more censored FM show that is available now in what, one market. Once that's gone, they'd have nothing. At least with Sat, they do have that to stay on once the FM gig is finally gone, as Sat radio needs all the help it can get right now, and I'd like to believe that corporate realizes that they still bring in subs.

The days of Wheelchair Fred assfucking, Egg Nog Challenge, Wiffleball Bat Challenge, Nagger Nazi Challenge, Sidewalk Fishing, Tony Danza attack, AOTM, Edmund Fitzgerald, Heather McCartney abortion jokes, Homeless Shopping Spree, etc, are long gone as long as the lawyers keep sticking their noses in their shit, society keeps becoming a bunch of faggots, and even then, I don't ever see the show going back to it's rawness of the XM only days.

And some may be right with their analogy of every generation after the last (AAF to NEW to XM to XM/CBS) doesn't think the current gen of the show is as good as the past gen. I don't know. My feeling is that the XM only days are long gone and will never be back, and either we listen to the show as it is or we don't. The boys can't do too much about it, they want a paycheck as well, and I don't think any one of us would be any different.

Do I think Op walking off Friday was a bit, no, did he act it up some, who knows. But I understand their frustration as most fans that have been with them over the years feel the exact same thing.

So flame away at this post, I don't give a shit. Just my thoughts.

[CousinDave]

I became a fan of the show when they first started on XM. I had never heard of them, I was activating my illegal XM unit a week before it started, and the asian lady asked me if I wanted to pay the extra 1.99 a month for Playboy and another 1.99 a month for "High Voltage". I had no interest in Playboy, but she told me a very brief description of what High Voltage was going to be, so I said sure, I was new to the service, and it sounded like something that would be different. I listened on Day One, and I was hooked.



You never heard George Carlin before then ?

[Beeman99]

You never heard George Carlin before then ?

I had, but that has fuck all to do with a radio show. Carlin had his cd or show once a year, not a daily show that someone could listen to.

[sober]

I became a fan of the show when they first started on XM. I had never heard of them, I was activating my illegal XM unit a week before it started, and the asian lady asked me if I wanted to pay the extra 1.99 a month for Playboy and another 1.99 a month for "High Voltage". I had no interest in Playboy, but she told me a very brief description of what High Voltage was going to be, so I said sure, I was new to the service, and it sounded like something that would be different. I listened on Day One, and I was hooked. It was unlike anything I had ever heard before, and I couldn't wait for the next days show. They were doing and saying whatever the hell they wanted, even if it was things that I had always found funny but had been under the impression that you could never say or do those things. That was the appeal of the show. I dl'd Demented World among other bits that were floating around from AAF and NEW, and while they were funny, none of them had the rawness of the XM show for the first two years or so. Anything went, and it was great.

Then came their move back to FreeFM. I wasn't sure what to make of that as they had done nothing but bash the platform and the FCC. I had never heard them before XM, so I figured that a FM portion to the show would be boring as fuck. And it was for the first few months as they tried to get their dicks wet with a "Censored" show once again. It sounded like a lot of tippy toeing around and rehashing of XM stuff that had gone on the previous two years (which I know needed to happen, but I tuned out of the FM show most of the time during this). Eventually, they learned somewhat on how to do a FreeFM show that wasn't boring on slow paced. It still didn't have the rawness and "shock" value of the XM show, so I pretty much always skipped the FM show and only listened to the XM portion.

Then came the suspension, I wasn't one of the ones that lost their mind over it and became an annoying cunt about it. I wasn't happy about it, and I didn't agree with them getting suspended over what Homeless Charlie said as they had said and done far worse before that. That was the start of me not listening regularly. It was kind of nice to have my 5 hours a day back that I committed faithfully to the show. But I also found other thing to fill my time with while they were suspended.

Once they came back, I would tune in when I got the chance, but for the first while it seemed like they were bound and gagged by the lawyers, and a lot of the energy the show had was gone. The FM portion truly became about reading the news and commenting on it, with the odd guest coming in. The XM show became a bitch fest about the FM show, and the odd commentary that was R rated. The bits disappeared, the show took on a whole new sound.

It became a show that was still interesting to listen to, was still better than anything else on the radio, but it didn't have the "I have to listen today to see what fucking insane shit they said/did on the show" that made me listen faithfully to the whole show daily. It became something that you could tune into if you got the chance, but weren't really missing much if you didn't daily. If something happened that was unusual, you could find out on WB and either catch the replay or dl the said portion. Unfortunately, those portions were short and usually rare.

Now, is this the boys fault, not really. XM, CBS, and now Sirius have tied their tongues and told them that they can't do any of the shit they used to. They are doing the best show that they are allowed to, and they realize that there are more days than not that it's really not that interesting to listen to (Ant even admitted this on Friday before Op stormed off). What can they do to change this, fuck all IMO. As some have said, they can just "Strike" the sat portion of the show, which would wind leading to them getting the boot from the platform, and they'd do a watered down and even more censored FM show that is available now in what, one market. Once that's gone, they'd have nothing. At least with Sat, they do have that to stay on once the FM gig is finally gone, as Sat radio needs all the help it can get right now, and I'd like to believe that corporate realizes that they still bring in subs.

The days of Wheelchair Fred assfucking, Egg Nog Challenge, Wiffleball Bat Challenge, Nagger Nazi Challenge, Sidewalk Fishing, Tony Danza attack, AOTM, Edmund Fitzgerald, Heather McCartney abortion jokes, Homeless Shopping Spree, etc, are long gone as long as the lawyers keep sticking their noses in their shit, society keeps becoming a bunch of faggots, and even then, I don't ever see the show going back to it's rawness of the XM only days.

And some may be right with their analogy of every generation after the last (AAF to NEW to XM to XM/CBS) doesn't think the current gen of the show is as good as the past gen. I don't know. My feeling is that the XM only days are long gone and will never be back, and either we listen to the show as it is or we don't. The boys can't do too much about it, they want a paycheck as well, and I don't think any one of us would be any different.

Do I think Op walking off Friday was a bit, no, did he act it up some, who knows. But I understand their frustration as most fans that have been with them over the years feel the exact same thing.

So flame away at this post, I don't give a shit. Just my thoughts.

Again, I really, really hate people that heard about this show through XM.

[CousinDave]

I had, but that has fuck all to do with a radio show. Carlin had his cd or show once a year, not a daily show that someone could listen to.


It was a joke - the first couple of days of O&A on XM were more George Carlin than O&A or at least it seemed that way.

[chiapeteater]

I gotta say that Beeman pretty summed up my feelings about the way the show has gone in the above post. Only difference being that I had been listening to O & A since '98/'99 or so. I also remeber hearing the "show that never happened" on XM when Wolfpack was in studio and they had the jager machine, then wanting to hear the replay and it was something else. That's when I knew there was no such thing as truly uncensored radio. The lawyers fuck everything up and need to be put back in their places(where they came from, a fecal matter infested uterus).

[Beeman99]

Again, I really, really hate people that heard about this show through XM.

Why??

It was a joke - the first couple of days of O&A on XM were more George Carlin than O&A or at least it seemed that way.

Sorry, wasn't think along that route. And yeah, the first little while was a lot of Carlin

I gotta say that Beeman pretty summed up my feelings about the way the show has gone in the above post. Only difference being that I had been listening to O & A since '98/'99 or so. I also remeber hearing the "show that never happened" on XM when Wolfpack was in studio and they had the jager machine, then wanting to hear the replay and it was something else. That's when I knew there was no such thing as truly uncensored radio. The lawyers fuck everything up and need to be put back in their places(where they came from, a fecal matter infested uterus).


You have to admit though, the show we can't talk about was more about stat r8pe then the lawyers.

The first time I noticed it was when Op and Jimmy went at it, and the replays were cut and replaced with Tommy Chong.

[deathtrip]

It has to be hard to do your best work when your future is uncertain (merger, new bosses, new company, new contracts, new timeslot?)

It's a great show and has provided me with entertainment off and on for many years. Somehow they will make it work, as long as they stay on the air.

[samurai]

I hope Opie gave the suits in DC a piece of his mind but on the other hand I hope he kept his composure and was clear headed enough not to do anything stupid that he may live to regret.

Who is this Opie that you speak of?

[BrianFromIowa]

Anything with Intern David has been terrible and desperate. It was funny to make fun of him the first week and to hear him do the jew news.. but other than that, get him off. .



I thought they did. Well, I guess they did sort of.:sword:

(and I am only using the sword smilely face thing becuase it's neat!)

[oandapartycock]

I thought they did. Well, I guess they did sort of.:sword:

(and I am only using the sword smilely face thing becuase it's neat!)

You DO seem to have a thing for long pointy phallic shaped things. :action-sm

[WOWmagnet]

Again, I really, really hate people that heard about this show through XM.

'cause WNEW days were soooo much better, maaaaaaaan!

[ruckstande]

Yep, Beeman summed it up completely for me.


BAN HIM!:action-sm

[ruckstande]

Do they?

Hahahaha. I see where you were going there. hahahahaha! You took a...ahahahahahahaahaha...Jim Norton bit and you decided to...hahahahahahahaahahahahahahaahahahahaahahahaha ahahahahahaahahahaahahahahaahahahaaha...use it on the board and act like the witty...ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...fan. Oh excuse me while I throw up some.

[EarthCrisis]

I became a fan of the show when they first started on XM. I had never heard of them, I was activating my illegal XM unit a week before it started, and the asian lady asked me if I wanted to pay the extra 1.99 a month for Playboy and another 1.99 a month for "High Voltage". I had no interest in Playboy, but she told me a very brief description of what High Voltage was going to be, so I said sure, I was new to the service, and it sounded like something that would be different. I listened on Day One, and I was hooked. It was unlike anything I had ever heard before, and I couldn't wait for the next days show. They were doing and saying whatever the hell they wanted, even if it was things that I had always found funny but had been under the impression that you could never say or do those things. That was the appeal of the show. I dl'd Demented World among other bits that were floating around from AAF and NEW, and while they were funny, none of them had the rawness of the XM show for the first two years or so. Anything went, and it was great.

Then came their move back to FreeFM. I wasn't sure what to make of that as they had done nothing but bash the platform and the FCC. I had never heard them before XM, so I figured that a FM portion to the show would be boring as fuck. And it was for the first few months as they tried to get their dicks wet with a "Censored" show once again. It sounded like a lot of tippy toeing around and rehashing of XM stuff that had gone on the previous two years (which I know needed to happen, but I tuned out of the FM show most of the time during this). Eventually, they learned somewhat on how to do a FreeFM show that wasn't boring on slow paced. It still didn't have the rawness and "shock" value of the XM show, so I pretty much always skipped the FM show and only listened to the XM portion.

Then came the suspension, I wasn't one of the ones that lost their mind over it and became an annoying cunt about it. I wasn't happy about it, and I didn't agree with them getting suspended over what Homeless Charlie said as they had said and done far worse before that. That was the start of me not listening regularly. It was kind of nice to have my 5 hours a day back that I committed faithfully to the show. But I also found other thing to fill my time with while they were suspended.

Once they came back, I would tune in when I got the chance, but for the first while it seemed like they were bound and gagged by the lawyers, and a lot of the energy the show had was gone. The FM portion truly became about reading the news and commenting on it, with the odd guest coming in. The XM show became a bitch fest about the FM show, and the odd commentary that was R rated. The bits disappeared, the show took on a whole new sound.

It became a show that was still interesting to listen to, was still better than anything else on the radio, but it didn't have the "I have to listen today to see what fucking insane shit they said/did on the show" that made me listen faithfully to the whole show daily. It became something that you could tune into if you got the chance, but weren't really missing much if you didn't daily. If something happened that was unusual, you could find out on WB and either catch the replay or dl the said portion. Unfortunately, those portions were short and usually rare.

Now, is this the boys fault, not really. XM, CBS, and now Sirius have tied their tongues and told them that they can't do any of the shit they used to. They are doing the best show that they are allowed to, and they realize that there are more days than not that it's really not that interesting to listen to (Ant even admitted this on Friday before Op stormed off). What can they do to change this, fuck all IMO. As some have said, they can just "Strike" the sat portion of the show, which would wind leading to them getting the boot from the platform, and they'd do a watered down and even more censored FM show that is available now in what, one market. Once that's gone, they'd have nothing. At least with Sat, they do have that to stay on once the FM gig is finally gone, as Sat radio needs all the help it can get right now, and I'd like to believe that corporate realizes that they still bring in subs.

The days of Wheelchair Fred assfucking, Egg Nog Challenge, Wiffleball Bat Challenge, Nagger Nazi Challenge, Sidewalk Fishing, Tony Danza attack, AOTM, Edmund Fitzgerald, Heather McCartney abortion jokes, Homeless Shopping Spree, etc, are long gone as long as the lawyers keep sticking their noses in their shit, society keeps becoming a bunch of faggots, and even then, I don't ever see the show going back to it's rawness of the XM only days.

And some may be right with their analogy of every generation after the last (AAF to NEW to XM to XM/CBS) doesn't think the current gen of the show is as good as the past gen. I don't know. My feeling is that the XM only days are long gone and will never be back, and either we listen to the show as it is or we don't. The boys can't do too much about it, they want a paycheck as well, and I don't think any one of us would be any different.

Do I think Op walking off Friday was a bit, no, did he act it up some, who knows. But I understand their frustration as most fans that have been with them over the years feel the exact same thing.

So flame away at this post, I don't give a shit. Just my thoughts.


You no rike Prayboy?

[Aaron Burrito]

I became a fan of the show when they first started on XM. I had never heard of them, I was activating my illegal XM unit a week before it started, and the asian lady asked me if I wanted to pay the extra 1.99 a month for Playboy and another 1.99 a month for "High Voltage". I had no interest in Playboy, but she told me a very brief description of what High Voltage was going to be, so I said sure, I was new to the service, and it sounded like something that would be different. I listened on Day One, and I was hooked. It was unlike anything I had ever heard before, and I couldn't wait for the next days show. They were doing and saying whatever the hell they wanted, even if it was things that I had always found funny but had been under the impression that you could never say or do those things. That was the appeal of the show. I dl'd Demented World among other bits that were floating around from AAF and NEW, and while they were funny, none of them had the rawness of the XM show for the first two years or so. Anything went, and it was great.

Then came their move back to FreeFM. I wasn't sure what to make of that as they had done nothing but bash the platform and the FCC. I had never heard them before XM, so I figured that a FM portion to the show would be boring as fuck. And it was for the first few months as they tried to get their dicks wet with a "Censored" show once again. It sounded like a lot of tippy toeing around and rehashing of XM stuff that had gone on the previous two years (which I know needed to happen, but I tuned out of the FM show most of the time during this). Eventually, they learned somewhat on how to do a FreeFM show that wasn't boring on slow paced. It still didn't have the rawness and "shock" value of the XM show, so I pretty much always skipped the FM show and only listened to the XM portion.

Then came the suspension, I wasn't one of the ones that lost their mind over it and became an annoying cunt about it. I wasn't happy about it, and I didn't agree with them getting suspended over what Homeless Charlie said as they had said and done far worse before that. That was the start of me not listening regularly. It was kind of nice to have my 5 hours a day back that I committed faithfully to the show. But I also found other thing to fill my time with while they were suspended.

Once they came back, I would tune in when I got the chance, but for the first while it seemed like they were bound and gagged by the lawyers, and a lot of the energy the show had was gone. The FM portion truly became about reading the news and commenting on it, with the odd guest coming in. The XM show became a bitch fest about the FM show, and the odd commentary that was R rated. The bits disappeared, the show took on a whole new sound.

It became a show that was still interesting to listen to, was still better than anything else on the radio, but it didn't have the "I have to listen today to see what fucking insane shit they said/did on the show" that made me listen faithfully to the whole show daily. It became something that you could tune into if you got the chance, but weren't really missing much if you didn't daily. If something happened that was unusual, you could find out on WB and either catch the replay or dl the said portion. Unfortunately, those portions were short and usually rare.

Now, is this the boys fault, not really. XM, CBS, and now Sirius have tied their tongues and told them that they can't do any of the shit they used to. They are doing the best show that they are allowed to, and they realize that there are more days than not that it's really not that interesting to listen to (Ant even admitted this on Friday before Op stormed off). What can they do to change this, fuck all IMO. As some have said, they can just "Strike" the sat portion of the show, which would wind leading to them getting the boot from the platform, and they'd do a watered down and even more censored FM show that is available now in what, one market. Once that's gone, they'd have nothing. At least with Sat, they do have that to stay on once the FM gig is finally gone, as Sat radio needs all the help it can get right now, and I'd like to believe that corporate realizes that they still bring in subs.

The days of Wheelchair Fred assfucking, Egg Nog Challenge, Wiffleball Bat Challenge, Nagger Nazi Challenge, Sidewalk Fishing, Tony Danza attack, AOTM, Edmund Fitzgerald, Heather McCartney abortion jokes, Homeless Shopping Spree, etc, are long gone as long as the lawyers keep sticking their noses in their shit, society keeps becoming a bunch of faggots, and even then, I don't ever see the show going back to it's rawness of the XM only days.

And some may be right with their analogy of every generation after the last (AAF to NEW to XM to XM/CBS) doesn't think the current gen of the show is as good as the past gen. I don't know. My feeling is that the XM only days are long gone and will never be back, and either we listen to the show as it is or we don't. The boys can't do too much about it, they want a paycheck as well, and I don't think any one of us would be any different.

Do I think Op walking off Friday was a bit, no, did he act it up some, who knows. But I understand their frustration as most fans that have been with them over the years feel the exact same thing.

So flame away at this post, I don't give a shit. Just my thoughts.


Beeman sumed it up perfectly, that's exactly how I feel.

[annoyinglee]

I gave up on the show about 8-10 months ago. I felt I grew out of the show. The WNEW & Early XM days were fucking great, my opinion. I still like the show & the boys, but it was time for me move on.

Everyone can say "U, annoyinglee throw in the towel"

[patbattlefield]

Beeman sumed it up perfectly, that's exactly how I feel.

yep. I just don't make an effort to listen anymore either. I hope things change but they won't and the things that make O&A worth listening to aren't coming back anytime soon. I guess job security trumps sticking it to the man and doing good radio. I don't blame them. Everyone has to pay their bills.

[LiddyRules]

I think all you haters should realize that, as Opie says, the show is the best it's ever been and because you like other "eras" better it's because you simply don't get it and prefer to live in the past rather than the future, which is the present.

So all you haters can go bite a quarter and scram.

[Beeman99]

I think all you haters should realize that, as Opie says, the show is the best it's ever been and because you like other "eras" better it's because you simply don't get it and prefer to live in the past rather than the future, which is the present.

So all you haters can go bite a quarter and scram.

I'm a hater because I don't drink the kool-aid?? Even Ant said on Friday the show stinks now due to their hands being tied, or did you miss that part?? I never said the show sucks now, I just said it's not as good as it once was. If you honestly think the CBS/XM show of today is better than the XM only show PRE-CBS, then you really are a zombie.

[gleet]

It's still by far the best show on radio in the remote mountains of Idaho and I will ride this horse till it's dead.

Plus, it is often very funny.

[tourettesguy]

I'm a hater because I don't drink the kool-aid?? Even Ant said on Friday the show stinks now due to their hands being tied, or did you miss that part?? I never said the show sucks now, I just said it's not as good as it once was. If you honestly think the CBS/XM show of today is better than the XM only show PRE-CBS, then you really are a zombie.

I agree whole-fartedly.

[Hog's Big Ben]

I've been listening to many of the WNEW days lately, and sure, you have your random show of them riffing on a car-chase with other comedians for two hours, but lots of it was scripted. ... There's a way to be funny with scripted material.. let's not act like that's all necessarily hack.

They don't do skits. I think there would be even more bitching here if they started doing scprited material.



I didn't agree with them getting suspended over what Homeless Charlie said as they had said and done far worse before that.

They didn't get suspended for anything Charlie said or did. Pay better attention.


I had, but that has fuck all to do with a radio show. Carlin had his cd or show once a year, not a daily show that someone could listen to.

I'm a hater because I don't drink the kool-aid?? Even Ant said on Friday the show stinks now due to their hands being tied, or did you miss that part?? I never said the show sucks now, I just said it's not as good as it once was. If you honestly think the CBS/XM show of today is better than the XM only show PRE-CBS, then you really are a zombie.

Wow. You don't get sarcasm, do you? No wonder you've lost touch with the show.

[F'in Ponderous]

While I agree with many that the show isn't what it once was, I still believe it's better than anything else out there. And having listened for more than 10 years at this point, I'm not about to stop. I don't know if that makes me a loyalist or whatever. I still enjoy many parts of the show and I just hope some of this other crap takes care of itself.

I feel badly for O&A. First of all, if what Opie alluded to today is true, they aren't getting paid AGAIN! I believe that was a problem towards the end of their last agreement with XM (SiriusXM), and it seems that they paychecks have stopped yet again.

I can't tell if they want out at CBS or not. Seems like they are just happy to have a job in some ways. Can't really blame them for that considering the way the industry is, but I don't think it's helping their show at all.

As far as SiriusXM, I think Opie mentioned it today, but the show lost a major voice with "the suits" when Eric Logan left. He understood the content and supported them behind the scenes.

I do have one bit of speculation. Opie stated that last week was a bad week for him. I have a feeling that O&A were lead to believe that they'd eventually be moved to PM drive as a follow up to Howard's Show. Op had been hinting at wanting to move back for the past month or so. When Sirius announced it had resigned Bubba the Fat Fuck for another 2 years, I think that may have pissed Opie off a bit. Again, this is 100% speculation, but I can't see what else would have pissed him off (aside from the lack of pay and the suits shooting down bits...EDIT- ok, that would piss me off a shitload, too).

We'll see. Either way, I hope something works out and that they remain on the air. It's been a rough 6-12 months for O&A.

[annoyinglee]

I think all you haters should realize that, as Opie says, the show is the best it's ever been and because you like other "eras" better it's because you simply don't get it and prefer to live in the past rather than the future, which is the present.

So all you haters can go bite a quarter and scram.

I'm not a hater at all. What you have the right calling me a hater b/c I like "the WNEW and XM Days" makes a hater!!

Hey, LiddyRules... Do u have a life or sit on your fat ass at the computer posting on wackbag all day and all night:mad4:

Fuck U LiddyRules:D

[Aaron Burrito]

I'm not a hater at all. What you have the right calling me a hater b/c I like "the WNEW and XM Days" makes a hater!!

Hey, LiddyRules... Do u have a life or sit on your fat ass at the computer posting on wackbag all day and all night:mad4:

Fuck U LiddyRules:D

LiddyRules=sarcasm

[Beeman99]

They didn't get suspended for anything Charlie said or did. Pay better attention.

You are right, they got suspended because XM told them to shut the fuck up over what Homeless Charlies said, and they didn't. Still doesn't mean the show didn't change after that.






Wow. You don't get sarcasm, do you? No wonder you've lost touch with the show.

oh, I get sarcasm, but I also get the fact that there are a lot of posters here that are no better than the Stern Zombies that think he can do no wrong and aren't afraid to admit that the show isn't what it once was.

Please, for anyone here that doesn't agree, please tell me how the show is better now. Because honestly, it isn't. Are the boys "calling" it in, I don't think so, they are still trying, but they can't do sweet fuck all anymore. If I want to listen to news reading and commentary, bitching about the "man", I can tune into any morning zoo. The show used to be different then that, and now it's not. If that means I lost touch, so be it. Also, half the time with Liddy's posts I don't know if he's serious or sarcastic anymore. I think it's more a situation of people like you will blindly say they are still great and it's better than ever. Quit being delusional.

[nneptune]

Again, I really, really hate people that heard about this show through XM.

Now, that's just a moronic statement.
It makes no sense.
Good day, sir. You lose. You get nothing! :icon_mrgr

[annoyinglee]

Everyone has their different era of O&A, period!! If 50% of the people like the show in the past and the 50% of the people like the show present there is no difference.

[LiddyRules]

Also, half the time with Liddy's posts I don't know if he's serious or sarcastic anymore. I ended my post with "bite a quarter and scram."

[GovtMule1979]

I think all you haters should realize that, as Opie says, the show is the best it's ever been and because you like other "eras" better it's because you simply don't get it and prefer to live in the past rather than the future, which is the present.

So all you haters can go bite a quarter and scram.

If the show was that good, it wouldn't just be white noise for me while I'm at home. I used to get in my truck and drive around just to listen to them when I only had XM in my truck. When they were on in afternoons I remember shows being so good that I'd take the long way home so I could hear more of it. I disagree with Opie, it's the worst I've ever heard it.

[Beeman99]

I ended my post with "bite a quarter and scram."

wait, and you trying to say Canadians are stupid???:rolleyes:

[Hog's Big Ben]

I think it's more a situation of people like you will blindly say they are still great and it's better than ever. Quit being delusional.

I didn't say the show is "better than ever". It's different. I'd put random show from the month or two after Labor day this year against anything they've done their entire careers. It's always run in cycles. If it was still all Tyson & Tom Brokaw impressions it would suck. WNEW was nice and all, and I'm glad there are old shows to download when they take vacations, but if that's how they were now all the time I'd be listening to music in the mornings. Even the glory days of XM aren't that glorious now. Sure, you can pull out fantastic bits, but entire shows? Not so much.

Part of them not getting stale for us (and burnt out for them) is changing things up. And that means there's going to be eras, or whatever you want to call them, that you don't like. I can check out Howard and unless they talk about some current event, I have no idea if it's a show from last week or one from 1994. That's true of just about every other show out there. I don't want that, because I listen more than 15 minutes in the car on the way to work. I like that they change it up, and sometimes it's not always for the better...so I guess I'm just a blind delusional zombie that loves every minute of every show. :icon_roll

Go fuck yourself.

[Beeman99]

I didn't say the show is "better than ever". It's different. I'd put random show from the month or two after Labor day this year against anything they've done their entire careers. It's always run in cycles. If it was still all Tyson & Tom Brokaw impressions it would suck. WNEW was nice and all, and I'm glad there are old shows to download when they take vacations, but if that's how they were now all the time I'd be listening to music in the mornings. Even the glory days of XM aren't that glorious now. Sure, you can pull out fantastic bits, but entire shows? Not so much.

Part of them not getting stale for us (and burnt out for them) is changing things up. And that means there's going to be eras, or whatever you want to call them, that you don't like. I can check out Howard and unless they talk about some current event, I have no idea if it's a show from last week or one from 1994. That's true of just about every other show out there. I don't want that, because I listen more than 15 minutes in the car on the way to work. I like that they change it up, and sometimes it's not always for the better...so I guess I'm just a blind delusional zombie that loves every minute of every show. :icon_roll

Go fuck yourself.

I see I hit a nerve. Apparently, you are lost to the point I was trying to make. But that's ok, go stuff another doughnut in your fat face before reading my posts.

I never said the show sucks, I said it's not as good, it's missing the cringe factor, and we know it, the boys know it, and CBS/Sirius don't give a fuck. Read before responding stupid. And if you honestly love every minute of the show, good for you, but if you feel that way but also can't admit the show has lost a lot of it's appeal from the XM only days, then you are a zombie.

Now, before we get banned for calling each other naughty names, let's agree to disagree, I'd hate to see you get frustrated.

[FartBart]

i think you should disagree to agree

[Barely Legal]

I hate to say it, but I agree with Beeman.

The show is definitely missing that "cringe-factor" that attracted me to the show in the first place. The boys have had to make too many compromises to do their show and it's really hurting the end product. I realize that circumstances are beyond their control and it's not their fault, but I really am worried if we'll ever get "can't miss" radio again.

[Aaron Burrito]

I didn't say the show is "better than ever". It's different. I'd put random show from the month or two after Labor day this year against anything they've done their entire careers. It's always run in cycles. If it was still all Tyson & Tom Brokaw impressions it would suck. WNEW was nice and all, and I'm glad there are old shows to download when they take vacations, but if that's how they were now all the time I'd be listening to music in the mornings. Even the glory days of XM aren't that glorious now. Sure, you can pull out fantastic bits, but entire shows? Not so much.

Part of them not getting stale for us (and burnt out for them) is changing things up. And that means there's going to be eras, or whatever you want to call them, that you don't like. I can check out Howard and unless they talk about some current event, I have no idea if it's a show from last week or one from 1994. That's true of just about every other show out there. I don't want that, because I listen more than 15 minutes in the car on the way to work. I like that they change it up, and sometimes it's not always for the better...so I guess I'm just a blind delusional zombie that loves every minute of every show. :icon_roll

Go fuck yourself.
Completely disagree. There were plenty of shows that were gold from start to finish. And they'd follow that up with another gem the next day. Hell they'd even go weeks or even months with one stellar show after the next. The last couple months before they went back to Free FM was some of the best and they haven't had runs like that since.

[F'in Ponderous]

They don't do skits. I think there would be even more bitching here if they started doing scprited material.

But I think there would be bitching here regardless of what they do. I don't think they are completely unprepared. I know they get a list of topics together before the show and prioritize them.

I just don't agree that "scripted" or prepared material means "hack" material (not suggesting you said that- they point to it being more "hacky" or "old school radio"). Seems like that word gets thrown around alot. I'm not suggesting they create Todd Petengil (or however the fuck you spell his name) type song parodies. We all agree those are brutal.

But a little more structure and some recurring radio-type bits couldn't hurt. Is W.O.W. a hack promotion? Was Hummer Tuesday's a hack idea? Or how about the 6 o'clock queef? Yeah, some of these things naturally ran their course and don't have the appeal they once did, but it's these kinds of elements that are missing.

I love O&A and I will continue to listen until they are no longer on the air. And I'm sure for reasons beyond their control, the show has suffered somewhat. But there's just something that isn't working on a mass appeal level. What they've created to a certain degree is a radio version of Tough Crowd. And while I enjoyed that, there's a reason why it's no longer on the air.

Regardless, I don't envy them. If they push it too far, they've be off the air immediately. If they don't push it enough, they are considered stale and boring. :icon_conf

[sportsboytony]

But I think there would be bitching here regardless of what they do. I don't think they are completely unprepared. I know they get a list of topics together before the show and prioritize them.

I just don't agree that "scripted" or prepared material means "hack" material (not suggesting you said that- they point to it being more "hacky" or "old school radio"). Seems like that word gets thrown around alot. I'm not suggesting they create Todd Petengil (or however the fuck you spell his name) type song parodies. We all agree those are brutal.

But a little more structure and some recurring radio-type bits couldn't hurt. Is W.O.W. a hack promotion? Was Hummer Tuesday's a hack idea? Or how about the 6 o'clock queef? Yeah, some of these things naturally ran their course and don't have the appeal they once did, but it's these kinds of elements that are missing.

I love O&A and I will continue to listen until they are no longer on the air. And I'm sure for reasons beyond their control, the show has suffered somewhat. But there's just something that isn't working on a mass appeal level. What they've created to a certain degree is a radio version of Tough Crowd. And while I enjoyed that, there's a reason why it's no longer on the air.

Regardless, I don't envy them. If they push it too far, they've be off the air immediately. If they don't push it enough, they are considered stale and boring. :icon_conf

I totally agree. O&A have proven that they could make some of the scripted humor into legendary stuff. A lot of that material is how most of us caught on. There's skill in making it seem to average listner that it isn't scripted at all (It's how Howard's show blew up early on). A big part of radio is the on-air performance, and Opie and Anthony were exceptional with it.

Nobody is asking for morning zoo radio where every minute is produced in advance. But it seems like the sentiment on here is that more prep would be a good thing, and not a bad thing. O&A have to find a way to appeal to the new fan who's never heard them before - something their inside jokes and intern jokes have not done.

The average person tuning in out of nowhere on satellite who's never heard them would not be laughing at Ted..or David, or making fun of Steve with the gay voice, or Stalker Patty, or Pat Duffy. They latch on with their witty banter about the news.. Anthony's voices, and outragious stunts. Obviously the stunt part has got everyone's ire of late, but I think they just have to be smarter with what they can get away with.

And I still think the Homeless shopping isn't a problem. The wouldn't have gotten fired for it..they should have just done it..They weren't breaking any laws, something's fishy here.

[WarshCloth]

And I still think the Homeless shopping isn't a problem. The wouldn't have gotten fired for it..they should have just done it..They weren't breaking any laws, something's fishy here.

Right if it goes off without a hitch, but one homeless groper, one homeless theif, or one homeless guy who shits in the fountain and its "XMSirius's Opie and Anthony..."

Its a time for radio to totally protect itself and that is what they are doing...there is no threat of them leaving (to go where?) and there is no real competition since their biggest compeition is within the company...

It fuckin blows that they are being handcuffed...but if it was possibly my job on the line, I'd do the same thing...Id rather be an employeed prick then an un-employeed "good guy" opie mentions for 13 seconds and then moves on to Hot Teen news

[freakye01]

These lawyers really piss me off... I can't believe they won't allow 'Homeless Shopping Spree'.

They should all walk out for like 2 weeks. I'd be sad cuz of no show tho.

[Hog's Big Ben]

I just don't agree that "scripted" or prepared material means "hack" material (not suggesting you said that- they point to it being more "hacky" or "old school radio"). Seems like that word gets thrown around alot.

...

for reasons beyond their control, the show has suffered somewhat. But there's just something that isn't working on a mass appeal level

I don't think the scripted stuff is hack. It's just not what they do anymore. You sound like you want the Days Of The Week bits back. :icon_eek: They used to let comedians come in and do their acts, too. Remember Vos slaughtering Birbiglia a couple months ago for trying that shit? I think you're describing a Bob & Tom type of show.

And newsflash, they were never mass appeal. That's part of their appeal to the rest of us. They were never #1 overall on WNEW. Pretty far from it, actually. Let them do their thing. The month or two after this year's Labor Day break was fantastic radio (to me). It's just another cycle.


Now, before we get banned for calling each other naughty names

We? You're the only one that's gotten worked up to the point of insults. Calm down.

[MayrMeninoCrash]

Call me weird, but today's XM show was much more entertaining than anything they put over the air last week. Maybe it was the presence of Vos that got Jimmy on a roll. And there were clearly some scripted bits like the news stories they were reading and commenting on, and the "make fun of Vos" stuff. So anyone who says an off-the-cuff, no prep needed show is full of crap. I suppose the lack of Lilly helped too, she is just radio poison......Make sure you guys get your stapler back for her.

[Mrwierd]

I think all you haters should realize that, as Opie says, the show is the best it's ever been and because you like other "eras" better it's because you simply don't get it and prefer to live in the past rather than the future, which is the present.

Sooo.. after after being HANDED the key's to the race car (K-ROCK), then promptly crashing it into a wall and losing 23 radio stations, just how long does it take, to cough-cough "GET IT" ?? Either Opie is super smart (not), or there are a lot of dumb people out there... This show is running on fumes.. They are now third fiddle at SIRIUS after Bubba was re-signed. Mel will wait until CBS is done, then shit-can them..

This is NOT the same show I remember when I lived in Mahwah, NJ... :(

[Hydrosludge]

Again, I really, really hate people that heard about this show through XM.

Why, I started listening to the show durring the NEW days and I agree with most of beemans drivel.

My biggest disagreement with beeman is when the show lost the must listen aspect. I think it was with the loss of Ben.

i think you should disagree to agree

yup

These lawyers really piss me off... I can't believe they won't allow 'Homeless Shopping Spree'.

They should all walk out for like 2 weeks. I'd be sad cuz of no show tho.

If they do it with some dramma, it might do the show good.

When is the last time wackbag was in patbattle mode?

[sober]

Why, I started listening to the show durring the NEW days and I agree with most of beemans drivel.

I think the show is fine without the things I listed 400 pages ago [inside talk, my biggest beef]. Other than that bullshit, I love the current show -- but that bullshit is becoming the show.

[Beeman99]

We? You're the only one that's gotten worked up to the point of insults. Calm down.

But, but, you told me to go fuck myself. You started it:action-sm

And take today's show for example. It was good, but all it ended up being was them reading the news and commenting and bashing Vos because he's a dummy. Was it entertaining, sure, but you could've turned it off after the first hour of the FM show and caught the last hour of the XM show and the only difference would've been the odd fuck or cunt thrown in the grammer.

The boys know that the show is bland, we know it's bland, and it's not their fault, it's the rules they've had slapped on them by the lawyers fault. And unfortunately, nothing will change now.

You are right, change/evolution can be a great thing and good for the show among other things. But change/evolution over the past two years has led to a repetitive, stale show. I don't think you need a "bit" or "cringe factor" daily. But there have been no bits or cringe worthy moments in the past year at least, and very few in the past two years. If that's what you want to listen to, and that's not what the appeal of the boys is as they are capable of so much more, then fine. But for those of us that want more than just normal radio, we'll continue to not blindly follow it.

[F'in Ponderous]

I don't think the scripted stuff is hack. It's just not what they do anymore. You sound like you want the Days Of The Week bits back. :icon_eek: They used to let comedians come in and do their acts, too. Remember Vos slaughtering Birbiglia a couple months ago for trying that shit? I think you're describing a Bob & Tom type of show.

And newsflash, they were never mass appeal. That's part of their appeal to the rest of us. They were never #1 overall on WNEW. Pretty far from it, actually. Let them do their thing. The month or two after this year's Labor Day break was fantastic radio (to me). It's just another cycle.

I never indicated they were #1 overall on WNEW. They did pull in good numbers in most of the demos though at WNEW. Not to mention that they were having having stations added regularly, not dropped, through syndication.

I know part of that is due to the current climate of radio, so you can't pin that on them entirely. As far as "mass appeal", yes they've always had a niche. But I believe their ratings used to be higher in the other demos (not just men 18-34 or whatever it is). I just think they reached the casual listener better back in the day. ***UPDATE- I found this arbitron article/ratings not from the fall of 2001. O&A pulled in an overall 5.2 rating that quarter based on this info. That's overall and not a specific demo. I could be wrong, but I don't think they've come close to generating that at CBS. Some of that is caused by the simulcast on SiriusXM... http://www.nyradioguide.com/archives/010801.htm ***

I don't want the "days of the week" back, nor do I want them to do a Bob & Tom type show. I think that is one extreme. There has to be a happy medium between the WNEW days and the early XM days that would make everyone happy. If they found that, I think they'd have a little more success and would perhaps generate some new listeners.

Like I said in my previous post(s). I will continue to listen because I still do enjoy the show. And I agree that every show needs to evolve and that some of this is cyclical. I just hope the current cycle doesn't end up with them out of a job. The way things have looked recently at both CBS and SiriusXM, it doesn't seem all that unrealistic.

That's all. Still a huge fan and that will never change. I just want to see the show return to prosperity.

[Monstercloud]

This thread is made of lurkers with angry shitty opinions.

[patbattlefield]

This thread is made of lurkers with angry shitty opinions.

who's angry?

[sportsboytony]

This thread is made of lurkers with angry shitty opinions.

Seems to me to be pretty civilized analysis of the show. The thread is full of die-hard fans who love the show...but also want it to get better - and we all know it can happen. I wonder what the boys think when they read this thread. I do feel badly that their hand are tied, but it's time to make some muther fucking lemonade!!!

[kidconnor]

Sooo.. after after being HANDED the key's to the race car (K-ROCK), then promptly crashing it into a wall (

UMMMM... That car had another driver before OnA got the keys. And the fans that hung around didn't stay long enough to see HIM crash it. Taking the wheel after the first crash was difficult.


Look, any older fans know the show had a "must listen" feel to it back in the day. Different show different times.

I really think that as the boys grew up so did their fans. (How many years have they been in this buisness?)

The kids coming up today grew up with so much "shocking" stuff that they could SEE on the interwebs why do they have to tune in? To HEAR crazy stuff? Political opinions?

Plus ipods, music phones, blackberrys, PSPs..... people just don't tune into the radio anymore.

I truly believe that had it not been for S4S they would have gone up directly against Howard and had a good chance of beating him back then. They had to leave and it cost them.

Bad promotion by XM hurt them. XM was too afraid to put them up front and advertise for them. Now the lawyers tie their hands. A radio 'tough crowd' is the only choice they have.

Its not just the boys that have become stale, its talk radio in general.

I prefer the old style to the new. It STILL is the best/funniest show out there. But ANY show is better than no show and I'll be there until the wheels fall off.

[Yesterdays Hero]

Seems to me to be pretty civilized analysis of the show. The thread is full of die-hard fans who love the show...but also want it to get better - and we all know it can happen. I wonder what the boys think when they read this thread. I do feel badly that their hand are tied, but it's time to make some muther fucking lemonade!!!

Kind of happy some pos thread I made as my first turned out not bad, as opposed to the 2nd post on it being "Shut up cunt, go fuck a chainsaw."

The show will change. Some will like the changes, some won't. Regardless of how the show mutates, I just hope it stays on. Even the parts of it that don't have me clutching my stomach trying not to laugh my ass off at work (Jimmy's Rant on Trees/Birds, 1st time I heard Dice has a Hat, Shwoogie Earl storming off the show, the retelling of Bra-Bombs) I still listen too.

Like this fucking show. Alot. Introduced me to alot of great comics, and given me nothing but endorphins. Which means I've just cursed it by saying that, and it'll be off in a few months. Shit. :icon_cry:

[Falldog]

It's a no win scenario.

The boys will pull through no mater what they decide to do.

Us fans on the other hand will either have to adapt or find ourselves without a great show to listen to.

It's a bloody shame.

[Vyce]

In many of these things, Sirius-XM seems to be trying to assert dominance over O+A for no other reason than to assert their dominance. And it's hard to fight against corporate when there's no one in management fighting for you. (With XM, they had Logan on their side. Who's with them on Sirius-XM? Wicky?)


Not to be "I told you so" guy, but it's not as if some of us didn't predict this sort of exact thing happening once the merger was complete.

Good luck with Karmeezee at the helm.

[GovtMule1979]

This thread is made of lurkers with angry shitty opinions.

I've been lurking since the late 90's then. Nobody on here is some lurking new poster. From what I see all the posters who aren't happy with the show now have been big fans for a long time.

[LiddyRules]

Not to be "I told you so" guy, but it's not as if some of us didn't predict this sort of exact thing happening once the merger was complete. The question is more did anyone not foresee this happening?

[The Full Bug]

"Bite a quarter and scram" = thread winnar.





I still like the show a lot. I do miss the "party" atmosphere of the NEW days, but that's more to do with afternoons v. mornings than management decisions.

[Vyce]

The question is more did anyone not foresee this happening?

Well, O&A sure did talk about how great the merger would be for all parties involved.

I defended O&A earlier in the thread, but now let me criticize them a bit; I'm not sure I can go along with this "yeah, the show's bland, but it's not THEIR fault....."

Well, no, it sort of is, to an extent. They're stuck in a rut, but don't seem to be terribly motivated to get out of it, and don't give me that "well the lawyers won't let them do x, y or z". There are still ways to work around some of the constraints and do something other than, oh, just fill 5 hours a day with largely just news commentary.

At a minimum, O&A brought half of this shit on themselves when they decided to go back to terrestrial radio, which had those restrictions in place. The only thing that's new in this equation is that the XM portion of the show - which a great many fans, myself included, preferred - has turned now as well to have a whole new group of rules and restrictions on a portion that was supposed to be "uncensored" radio.

[Beeman99]

This thread is made of lurkers with angry shitty opinions.

way to add nothing to a thread once again without reading it.

Try again

[Monstercloud]

way to add nothing to a thread once again without reading it.

Try again

Oh yeah, because there's many threads that are 10+ pages on a show topic that are worth reading that go without opinions with terrible points how a show should be run.

[Beeman99]

Oh yeah, because there's many threads that are 10+ pages on a show topic that are worth reading that go without opinions with terrible points how a show should be run.

if you'd read the thread, you'd see there are very few posts about how the show should be wrong. This thread turned more into what's changed with the show, and what we think was either the turning point of it. But once again, feel free to add nothing to a thread. Every thread needs that from you.:action-sm

[sober]

Monstercloud is flailing around, shaking with anger.

[LiddyRules]

Well, no, it sort of is, to an extent. They're stuck in a rut, but don't seem to be terribly motivated to get out of it, and don't give me that "well the lawyers won't let them do x, y or z". There are still ways to work around some of the constraints and do something other than, oh, just fill 5 hours a day with largely just news commentary. I don't know if I'd use the term "unmotivated." Like I said earlier in this thread, I think the biggest problem with the restrictions, is that it has killed show morale. I know some might consider it a minor difference but it's a notable one, at least to me.

At a minimum, O&A brought half of this shit on themselves when they decided to go back to terrestrial radio, which had those restrictions in place. Without knowing too much about the behind-the-scenes going on, maybe they got too cocky with a two-front war (thinking they can win both terrestrial and XM) and the "suits" resented that. And now they're losing both. Anthony would appreciate the historical lesson.

[sober]

LiddyRules, putting all of the behind-the-scenes nonsense aside -- forgetting all of the bureaucratic bullshit -- blah blah --

are you REALLY content with the content of the show as of late?

[LiddyRules]

LiddyRules, putting all of the behind-the-scenes nonsense aside -- forgetting all of the bureaucratic bullshit -- blah blah --

are you REALLY content with the content of the show as of late? Content is a bad word. Content implies passable. And the show is, for the most part, not non-passable. So I'll say I'm mostly content.

But I'm not going to rave about Vos mispronouncing celebrity names for a half hour.

[Vyce]

But I'm not going to rave about Vos mispronouncing celebrity names for a half hour.

Thank you.

Painful to listen to. I wanted to be "FAKE! SOOOO FAKE!" guy today. Even if it isn't a fake bit......it just wasn't nearly compelling enough to devote THAT much time to it.

[Monstercloud]

if you'd read the thread, you'd see there are very few posts about how the show should be wrong. This thread turned more into what's changed with the show, and what we think was either the turning point of it. But once again, feel free to add nothing to a thread. Every thread needs that from you.:action-sm

There are a few posts about some fucks being dumb, but just as many idiots trying to find a clever way telling a guy to fuck off so some schlep can "Contribute to the thread".

I guess I should open Microsoft Word, go over 6 years of listening to the show, just so i can make a middle of the road opinion seem thought provoking, I just don't care that much. Perhaps i should of just mirrored another's short post by ranting, "Lawyers suck, Everything is way too PC nowadays, your mother's festering cunt" And then leave on a happy note. We get it, everyone is on the boys side more or less with this thing. 14+ pages, and somehow I'm now the bad guy not "Contributing" an "I Concur" post?

I don't get paid to post, until then, I'm posting with whatever people choose to feel worthy enough to respond to, or not, you fat retarded canuk.

[Beeman99]

There are a few posts about some fucks being dumb, but just as many idiots trying to find a clever way telling a guy to fuck off so some schlep can "Contribute to the thread".

I guess I should open Microsoft Word, go over 6 years of listening to the show, just so i can make a middle of the road opinion seem thought provoking, I just don't care that much. Perhaps i should of just mirrored another's short post by ranting, "Lawyers suck, Everything is way to PC nowadays, your mother's festering cunt" And then leave on a happy note. We get it, everyone is on the boys side more or less with this thing. 14+ pages, and somehow I'm now the bad guy not "Contributing" an "I Concur" post?

I don't get paid to post, until then, I'm posting with whatever people choose to feel worthy enough to respond to, or not, you fat retarded canuk.

no, you're not the bad guy. You are a the nothing guy that is just another worthless name on this board. I don't care what you post, I just hope Santa is black and makes your asshole nice and large you faggot.

Oh noes, did I just say that, I'm waiting for your insult to come back and hurt me stupid. :rolleyes:

[Vyce]

Both of you queers need to be quiet so that Liddy and I can converse some more.

[Monstercloud]

You are a the nothing guy that is just another worthless name on this board.

First, calm down and try to figure out which word you want to use, second, i guess to be a someone i have to earn 8,000+ through listening threads.

I don't care what you post

Whatever you need to tell yourself as you finish [quote]ing me.

[MayrMeninoCrash]

This thread:

http://www.car-accidents.com/2007-crash-pics/11-8-07-head-on-crash.jpg

[itsmewhat]

You sound like you want the Days Of The Week bits back. :icon_eek:
Umm yah..that bit started out as them "making fun" of morning zoo shows, and slowly translated into their version of the same shit for the sake of enticing new FM listeners. Dry. Boring.

Call me weird, but today's XM show was much more entertaining than anything they put over the air last week. Maybe it was the presence of Vos that got Jimmy on a roll. And there were clearly some scripted bits like the news stories they were reading and commenting on, and the "make fun of Vos" stuff.
You say potato, I say pohtato. I've been listening to their raw days (their first 2 years on XM) lately and quite frankly, I find that way more interesting and compelling to listen to than "scripted" bits; reading news stories, joking, and trying to fit all that into a 20 minute segment.
Because the best thing to hear when they're on a roll is, "we gotta take a break. We're running late".. right.. try to recreate that momentum after a 10 minute commercial break.


[inside talk, my biggest beef].
Sorry to hear that you feel left out. That explains why you're trying so hard to be "that guy".

who's angry?
Weren't you one of the uuuber fans? whaa happen

Not to be "I told you so" guy, but it's not as if some of us didn't predict this sort of exact thing happening once the merger was complete.

Good luck with Karmeezee at the helm.
There once was a time when all the members here were against the merger. Even pissed about the mere thought of it I dare say! Then O&A changed their tune and told us all that this merger will be great! Well.. you know how that goes around here. Thirsty? I'm not.


First, calm down and try to figure out which word you want to use, second, i guess to be a someone i have to earn 8,000+ through listening threads.
Whatever you need to tell yourself as you finish [ quote ]ing me.
Are you, Sober, and Cunta the same person?



And for the record, I agree with everything Beeman has said in this thread.

[Hog's Big Ben]

There once was a time when all the members here were against the merger. Even pissed about the mere thought of it I dare say! Then O&A changed their tune and told us all that this merger will be great! Well.. you know how that goes around here. Thirsty? I'm not.

I think most of us are still pissed about the merger. If not because of what's happening with O&A, then because whatever shitty channel they listened to went away or is playing something different.

I haven't seen a single "woo, the merger rocks" thread.

[itsmewhat]

I haven't seen a single "woo, the merger rocks" thread.

You're right, you haven't. But you can't deny that the general tone towards the merger changed when the boys snapped their fingers.

[Larz]

I think most of us are still pissed about the merger. If not because of what's happening with O&A, then because whatever shitty channel they listened to went away or is playing something different.

I haven't seen a single "woo, the merger rocks" thread.


The merger is small beans compared to the FM blunder. With Tivo I don't even see commercials on tv anymore, but I'm supposed to be ok with 20 minute commercial breaks on FM in this day and age? Hello?

And the current satellite issues will never compare to the all out Neutering of the show on FM.

But who cares right? subject the people that pay for the show to endless commercials and watered down content for 3 hours in order to broadcast to 1 demo in 1 FM market. End this crap already.

[annoyinglee]

I think most of us are still pissed about the merger. If not because of what's happening with O&A, then because whatever shitty channel they listened to went away or is playing something different.

I haven't seen a single "woo, the merger rocks" thread.


U make alot of sense :icon_mrgr

[Aaron Burrito]

Aside form the lawyers how has the merger affected the show?

(no sarcasm, actually asking)

[F'in Ponderous]

Aside form the lawyers how has the merger affected the show?

(no sarcasm, actually asking)
Aside from O&A having to deal with a whole different faction of behind the scenes people (Lawyers, suits, etc), I don't think it should have any affect. I mean, if they aren't being paid, which Opie alluded to yesterday, I can see how that would affect morale. I know that's nothing new with Sirius, but if you were coming to work every day and not getting a dime for months, would you be busting your ass? Probably not, and I'm guessing that might be taking its toll.

So no, I don't think it has affected the show. Same channel, same timeslot...no major impact from what I can see.

[Hog's Big Ben]

The merger is small beans compared to the FM blunder. With Tivo I don't even see commercials on tv anymore, but I'm supposed to be ok with 20 minute commercial breaks on FM in this day and age? Hello?

The commercial breaks on XM are longer than the ones on FM. Really. :action-sm

[patbattlefield]

4pXfHLUlZf4

[Beeman99]

The merger stunk for the boys, but I still feel the FM move hurt them more. I'm happy for the merger for other reasons, but I don't think it helped the show. I'm curious to see what happens with the move to the Sirius studio though

[Beeman99]

4pXfHLUlZf4

Molly Sims is hot. But she's too skinny for you, I know.

[LastDeadMouse]

With Tivo I don't even see commercials on tv anymore, but I'm supposed to be ok with 20 minute commercial breaks on FM in this day and age? Hello?

Not when you're watching a live show. Just saying. I skip all the ads because I listen to the show recorded on my Inno every day (after listening to Ron and Fez of course).

[gstar]

i can't help but remembering "Howard is a hack who couldn't adapt" when the argument about the FM restrictions comes up.

i've been a fan for 8 years, but the show is absolutely at its worst now. i miss the WNEW days, and the free-form XM days even more. now its just sporadically amusing news commentary and pathetically ignorant/paranoid arguments about race.

how did this show we love get to this point? :huh:

[EnwordLips]

People are really this into that kind of "stunt" or "bit"

They are ok sometimes. But is this what you tune in for? Its about hearing em talk. And saying funny things.

They complain about not being able to do crazy things with the interns. They are shoving poor innocent Davids face into man ass. What do they expect?

Sure that was kind of funny. But it took what a half hour? Thats time better spent just doing good ol' regular talking. Its not a tv show after all

[Beeman99]

People are really this into that kind of "stunt" or "bit"

They are ok sometimes. But is this what you tune in for? Its about hearing em talk. And saying funny things.

They complain about not being able to do crazy things with the interns. They are shoving poor innocent Davids face into man ass. What do they expect?

Sure that was kind of funny. But it took what a half hour? Thats time better spent just doing good ol' regular talking. Its not a tv show after all

depends how far you go back on the "bits". I've listed some of them before, and that's what I miss. ESD stunts or David getting his face rammed into man ass isn't funny, but Superball, etc etc, is.

[Fendbass22]

I am going to be on vaca for two weeks after today, such as the boys. I might as well stopped showing up a week ago because thats how much I don't give a fuck before vacation. I'm sure the same is happening with OnA.

[Aaron Burrito]

I am going to be on vaca for two weeks after today, such as the boys. I might as well stopped showing up a week ago because thats how much I don't give a fuck before vacation. I'm sure the same is happening with OnA.

So wrong.

[jkala]

can i count on hearing the bbbboys for another year?

[NeonTaster]

can i count on hearing the bbbboys for another year?

Good question. What's the over/under for the show not coming back from break?

[Hudson]

Hahaha Opie's "suspension" was spending an extra hour in studio....I called in to request "There is no Santa"..and the tool at the phones said no Bits, just songs...but they played it...Made my day.

[itsmewhat]

I haven't seen a single "woo, the merger rocks" thread.

http://www.wackbag.com/showthread.php?p=3026816#post3026816 :D

[Biff Hardslab]

I am going to be on vaca for two weeks after today, .

You're going somewhere on a cow?

[ADD Theater]

I am not a big fan of the watering down of the show. I can't imagine anyone is. But the world has changed, even on "uncensored" radio. There's no point in complaining about it. Instead, there's three options that I can think of:

1) Do it anyway and risk getting canned/suspended
2) Find creative ways around it and stop complaining
3) Find another medium (i.e., a podcast)

If it's really about the art and integrity and creativity and so forth, then 1 & 3 are the options. If not, then go with #2. The market will determine if we'll pay for this stuff. I think the answer is trending no.

[TheCableNazi]

I know I'm the minority here, but I honestly find the battle with management more compelling than anything they've ever put inside an intern.

[TEXAS TRUCKER]

I am not a big fan of the watering down of the show. I can't imagine anyone is. But the world has changed, even on "uncensored" radio. There's no point in complaining about it. Instead, there's three options that I can think of:

1) Do it anyway and risk getting canned/suspended
2) Find creative ways around it and stop complaining
3) Find another medium (i.e., a podcast)

If it's really about the art and integrity and creativity and so forth, then 1 & 3 are the options. If not, then go with #2. The market will determine if we'll pay for this stuff. I think the answer is trending no.Don't insert it. Just touch it to the outside. (wink wink) Opie rocks.

[fallenarch]

OK, my 1.5 cents....

The show is in no way as good as it used to be. I find myself going to Playboy Radio and listening to that at times instead of the bbbboys.

Just imagine... You work for a company that makes vanilla ice cream, and the company hates you. They like the other division, the one that makes chocolate chip ice cream. They fire you over something you did wrong. You get a new job, this time making chocolate wafers. You tell everyone who listens about how the company that makes ice cream sucked, and that they had a terrible manager. You may talk about the manager's wife and how annoying she was at a Christmas party a while back (LINGER LONGER). Hey, no need to worry, you make Chocolate wafers, not ICE CREAM anymore....!!!! But now the manager of the ice cream company decides that if he combines with the chocolate wafer company, he can make ice cream sandwiches and lot's of $$$. People at the chocolate wafer house said a lot of things and did a lot of things because they thought they would never cross paths with the manager again. And now they have to work for him again - and he already fired them once. In addition, the manager's starting to think that if he puts the chocolate chip ice cream in the wafers, he could probably phase out the vanilla ice cream....

Besides making me hungry for ice cream, I think this shows what O&A are really up against. No doubt that this had to be the strangest year EVER for them. The worst possible scenario played out and they now work for Mel, with Hoo Hoo, both of who they felt they would never see when they left for sat radio. How wierd is that???

E-Lo got it, and knew the way the show should be run. Give them a little rope, just keep an eye they don't hang themselves. Mel gives them no room for anything, and wants to see them fail. Sure there was a little meeting on the air a while back where their differences were settled. Did you believe that? Please.

It's back to the late NEW days. Fighting with management, trying to one up Stern, Stern playing his power card.

O&A feel like beaten men, and a beating like this causes people to lose their creativity. I don't want to see them do things that would cause them to lose their careers for the sake of the show. After all, Op is recently married and Ant needs to pay for his house, guns, trips, cars, media room, pool... Jimmy is finally catching a break, last thing he needs is to lose this gig.
Maybe the new year will help them redesign the show, although if you're being "observed" constantly it's gotta ruin your creative power. You're constantly being told what you CAN' T do, which drains you.

Long rant form an infrequent poster, but all I can say is I feel really bad for O,A,& J and I do not envy the position they are in one bit.

[Aaron Burrito]

It's great that they decided to screw the listeners instead of just doing their job. I can't believe they're actually mad because they can't leave early anymore. You have one of the greatest jobs in the world and they act like it's a burden. Thanks for being a professional.:action-sm

[blacknoi]

I think all you haters should realize that, as Opie says, the show is the best it's ever been and because you like other "eras" better it's because you simply don't get it and prefer to live in the past rather than the future, which is the present.

So all you haters can go bite a quarter and scram.

Are you kidding Liddy?

You make it sound like the show can DO NO WRONG.

You make it sound like if they gave you a turd, and said it was cake, you'd eat it, because they said it was good. Have you no personal taste?

I'm just saying that we have a right to not be satisfied with the present product put out by the show, just as you have a right to like it.

You can't ignore the present day show's overall quality.

[LiddyRules]

It's back to the late NEW days. Fighting with management, trying to one up Stern, Stern playing his power card. Actually, it's worse than late WNEW. In late WNEW they were proven players, strong radio personalities and got great ratings. They were "golden" and were treated that way. They had battles with management but was able to turn that into amazing radio because they had more freedom, they had more fun with it (Compare WNEW and Sirius-XM O+A v. Management. I don't want to say they seemed to "relish" in it in the past but I definitely felt that there was some game element to it as opposed to now which is just anger and defeatism. And I know age and mortgages have something to do with it and I can't really be mad at them for wanting to protect their livelihood. Also, if you keep losing battles, it's hard to maintain any hope for the future. Like I said, the biggest problem with the restrictions is the death to the show's morale) and they had people who understood the benefit of having O+A.

They were the rogue cops who didn't play by the rules and though the lieutenant might call them into the office and yell at them, god damn it fallen they got the job done! And sure, some property damage is acceptable, but when you blow up the town square - then you've gone too far. (See, I can do analogies too.) Before then, they were under the radar so they were able to avoid watchful eyes.

Now, they are neither under the radar nor the golden boys of radio (on either terrestrial or satellite). And I'm sure the CBS deal annoyed Mel more than even they care to admit. And it's hard to know if/how they can rise to the top again because they're too known and have too many restrictions on them.

I can't believe they're actually mad because they can't leave early anymore. They made me laugh when Opie was mad at them because they were mad at him for leaving early using the excuse that he stays extra some days. Don't get me wrong I completely understood why he walked out and I get his anger but you can't really be angry at the boss for being angry at you because you left work early.

[QUOTE=blacknoi;3027611]Are you kidding Liddy? *slams head against wall; repeatedly*

[Ronreddog]

Hahaha Opie's "suspension" was spending an extra hour in studio....I called in to request "There is no Santa"..and the tool at the phones said no Bits, just songs...but they played it...Made my day.

Very cool, sir. Opie doing the extra hour was pretty cool, and Anthony joining the Ron & Fez show saved that show.

Are you kidding Liddy?

You make it sound like the show can DO NO WRONG.

You make it sound like if they gave you a turd, and said it was cake, you'd eat it, because they said it was good. Have you no personal taste?

I'm just saying that we have a right to not be satisfied with the present product put out by the show, just as you have a right to like it.

You can't ignore the present day show's overall quality.

As a listener for 10 years, I have grown with the show, and adjusted to it. Although today's show is NOT the WNEW era, I still enjoy it the same. If I did not enjoy the show, I would simply not listen.

O&A have had to adjust to the ever fucking changing atmosphere that is talk radio. There is no way that it survives on "regular" radio. What is in store for satellite is yet to come.

I hate that they have to move from the XM studio to Sirius. I always wanted to be part of the "bleacher crowd", and it looks like that will go away.

I will ALWAYS support the show, for as long as it is on the air. O&A have been entertaining radio for me for 10 years, and I hope for more years to come.

[FartHammer]

Ive never associated with so many dumb mother fuckers in my life. Anything that isn't pro O&A is killed instantly, heaven forbid the show gets better? And by better, I don't mean more useless porn chicks that aren't interesting showing tits we can't see unless you have paltalk.

Opie "Standing up for freedom" is horseshit, this isn't the first or last time hes walked out of the studio or bitched on air about lawyers, he does it ALL THE FUCKING TIME and nothing gets done. Thats the point, if the bbbboys actually had any power on satellite radio they would only have to rant once to get something done, not rant for years.

Like I said, if they're truly worried about the radio world getting to PC, then go back to FM, take a massive paycut and get on as many stations as possible. Then spread the O&A gospel.

If thats not the case, continue to collect the millions, act like "regular joes" and bitch obsessively about lawyers ruining your terrible visual bits for the radio.

Situations like these prove that the boys aren't bringing in the subscriptions, at least not enough to justify their paychecks. They have to walk on eggshells and it has nothing to do with Mel or Howard, its because while they do bring in some listeners, its not going to kill the company completely to get rid of them before the next hassle they cause.

You guys can't look at things from a business perspective but would rather listen to millionaires attempting to be rebels maaaaaaaan.

If they were truly rebellious they would put money aside and establish a much larger subscriber/listener base, the money will then come later.
This guy is making good points. To completely disagree is Naive.

[ruckstande]

OK, my 1.5 cents....

The show is in no way as good as it used to be. I find myself going to Playboy Radio and listening to that at times instead of the bbbboys.

Just imagine... You work for a company that makes vanilla ice cream, and the company hates you. They like the other division, the one that makes chocolate chip ice cream. They fire you over something you did wrong. You get a new job, this time making chocolate wafers. You tell everyone who listens about how the company that makes ice cream sucked, and that they had a terrible manager. You may talk about the manager's wife and how annoying she was at a Christmas party a while back (LINGER LONGER). Hey, no need to worry, you make Chocolate wafers, not ICE CREAM anymore....!!!! But now the manager of the ice cream company decides that if he combines with the chocolate wafer company, he can make ice cream sandwiches and lot's of $$$. People at the chocolate wafer house said a lot of things and did a lot of things because they thought they would never cross paths with the manager again. And now they have to work for him again - and he already fired them once. In addition, the manager's starting to think that if he puts the chocolate chip ice cream in the wafers, he could probably phase out the vanilla ice cream....

Besides making me hungry for ice cream, I think this shows what O&A are really up against. No doubt that this had to be the strangest year EVER for them. The worst possible scenario played out and they now work for Mel, with Hoo Hoo, both of who they felt they would never see when they left for sat radio. How wierd is that???

E-Lo got it, and knew the way the show should be run. Give them a little rope, just keep an eye they don't hang themselves. Mel gives them no room for anything, and wants to see them fail. Sure there was a little meeting on the air a while back where their differences were settled. Did you believe that? Please.

It's back to the late NEW days. Fighting with management, trying to one up Stern, Stern playing his power card.

O&A feel like beaten men, and a beating like this causes people to lose their creativity. I don't want to see them do things that would cause them to lose their careers for the sake of the show. After all, Op is recently married and Ant needs to pay for his house, guns, trips, cars, media room, pool... Jimmy is finally catching a break, last thing he needs is to lose this gig.
Maybe the new year will help them redesign the show, although if you're being "observed" constantly it's gotta ruin your creative power. You're constantly being told what you CAN' T do, which drains you.

Long rant form an infrequent poster, but all I can say is I feel really bad for O,A,& J and I do not envy the position they are in one bit.

This one is good too.

[nneptune]

OK, my 1.5 cents....

The show is in no way as good as it used to be. I find myself going to Playboy Radio and listening to that at times instead of the bbbboys.

<snip ice cream analogy... no offense)

Besides making me hungry for ice cream, I think this shows what O&A are really up against. No doubt that this had to be the strangest year EVER for them. The worst possible scenario played out and they now work for Mel, with Hoo Hoo, both of who they felt they would never see when they left for sat radio. How wierd is that???

E-Lo got it, and knew the way the show should be run. Give them a little rope, just keep an eye they don't hang themselves. Mel gives them no room for anything, and wants to see them fail. Sure there was a little meeting on the air a while back where their differences were settled. Did you believe that? Please.

It's back to the late NEW days. Fighting with management, trying to one up Stern, Stern playing his power card.

O&A feel like beaten men, and a beating like this causes people to lose their creativity. I don't want to see them do things that would cause them to lose their careers for the sake of the show. After all, Op is recently married and Ant needs to pay for his house, guns, trips, cars, media room, pool... Jimmy is finally catching a break, last thing he needs is to lose this gig.
Maybe the new year will help them redesign the show, although if you're being "observed" constantly it's gotta ruin your creative power. You're constantly being told what you CAN' T do, which drains you.

Long rant form an infrequent poster, but all I can say is I feel really bad for O,A,& J and I do not envy the position they are in one bit.

You're right.
I was very creative at my job. Told so by everyone except the fat-ass, cunt boss. She started watching EVERYTHING I did, dictated how I could do things etc, and it strangled me.
Economy stinks, but I had to resign. Too much pressure. Not worth it.

Am I fucked financially? Yep.
But, I couldn't be happier to be out of my situation.

What's my point? I don't know. (And then what happened?..)
Had to vent,
and I know how it feels to be a be a beaten guy who was stripped of independent creativity. blah bla blah..

time for a drink...

[Vyce]

The merger is small beans compared to the FM blunder. With Tivo I don't even see commercials on tv anymore, but I'm supposed to be ok with 20 minute commercial breaks on FM in this day and age? Hello?

And the current satellite issues will never compare to the all out Neutering of the show on FM.

But who cares right? subject the people that pay for the show to endless commercials and watered down content for 3 hours in order to broadcast to 1 demo in 1 FM market. End this crap already.

And not to be "I told you so" guy AGAIN, but it's not as if there weren't people on this board who didn't bitch about how the FM move would completely change the O&A show, and not necessarily for the better.

To which some people replied, as Liddy might put it, "What's the matter? You need them to curse on the radio, HATER?"

I love O&A. Love the show. I've been listening to them in one fashion or another since 2000/2001 (whenever they were first syndicated to D.C. back when they were doing WNEW). But the FM gig was them trying to fill the void left by Stern, and I'm not saying that's not a logical or wise decision for them to have made, but it basically hasn't worked. Not necessarily their fault, as radio when they started back on FM wasn't what it was back in Stern's days, and if anything, after Imus, things got even WORSE. I'm pretty much ready for the experiment to end. But we're kind of fucked, since XM....excuse me, "Sirius XM".....isn't that much better these days, in terms of what content they're allowing.

[kloraferm]

We get it! Everyone's always pissed about something.

[Vyce]

I can't believe they're actually mad because they can't leave early anymore.

I wish I could say this. But after so many days of them blowing off the XM portion well before 11 a.m. this past year, I just can't.

[Captain_Spaulding]

OK, my 1.5 cents....

The show is in no way as good as it used to be. I find myself going to Playboy Radio and listening to that at times instead of the bbbboys.

Just imagine... You work for a company that makes vanilla ice cream, and the company hates you. They like the other division, the one that makes chocolate chip ice cream. They fire you over something you did wrong. You get a new job, this time making chocolate wafers. You tell everyone who listens about how the company that makes ice cream sucked, and that they had a terrible manager. You may talk about the manager's wife and how annoying she was at a Christmas party a while back (LINGER LONGER). Hey, no need to worry, you make Chocolate wafers, not ICE CREAM anymore....!!!! But now the manager of the ice cream company decides that if he combines with the chocolate wafer company, he can make ice cream sandwiches and lot's of $$$. People at the chocolate wafer house said a lot of things and did a lot of things because they thought they would never cross paths with the manager again. And now they have to work for him again - and he already fired them once. In addition, the manager's starting to think that if he puts the chocolate chip ice cream in the wafers, he could probably phase out the vanilla ice cream....

Besides making me hungry for ice cream, I think this shows what O&A are really up against. No doubt that this had to be the strangest year EVER for them. The worst possible scenario played out and they now work for Mel, with Hoo Hoo, both of who they felt they would never see when they left for sat radio. How wierd is that???

E-Lo got it, and knew the way the show should be run. Give them a little rope, just keep an eye they don't hang themselves. Mel gives them no room for anything, and wants to see them fail. Sure there was a little meeting on the air a while back where their differences were settled. Did you believe that? Please.

It's back to the late NEW days. Fighting with management, trying to one up Stern, Stern playing his power card.

O&A feel like beaten men, and a beating like this causes people to lose their creativity. I don't want to see them do things that would cause them to lose their careers for the sake of the show. After all, Op is recently married and Ant needs to pay for his house, guns, trips, cars, media room, pool... Jimmy is finally catching a break, last thing he needs is to lose this gig.
Maybe the new year will help them redesign the show, although if you're being "observed" constantly it's gotta ruin your creative power. You're constantly being told what you CAN' T do, which drains you.

Long rant form an infrequent poster, but all I can say is I feel really bad for O,A,& J and I do not envy the position they are in one bit.

yech. hole.

[Freese]

The people that pay for sat rad, regardless of what ANYONE thinks, have the right to bitch. We PAY for what we listen to. As much as it pains some of you, if people start dropping their subs, Sirius will start cutting. And given OnA's prediciment, they should be doing everything they can to make the show better.

I'd write more but I just downloaded Ice-T's album Power. This shit is dope man...

Like it was said above, find a way. OnA need to stop acting like lazy almost 50 year old men and start acting like hungry mid 30's up and comers and get shit rolling again.

[caeserchsburger]

I have not read each post on this thread but this seems like yet another fabricated drama to stir up some talk while they are away for two weeks. They do this lame shit all the time. Think about how many times they have talked about emergencies and big show controversies that gets hinted at then delayed and drawn out and then such never turns into anything and often is never even mentioned again by Opie. Do they really think their fans are that lame they just follow this stuff blindly I thought their fans were the slickest and smartest and would never be led around this way. It reminds me of the fake bits Stern drums up with Electric Eel Man. Not as honest of a show as they make it out to be.

[ruckstande]

I have not read each post on this thread but this seems like yet another fabricated drama to stir up some talk while they are away for two weeks. They do this lame shit all the time. Think about how many times they have talked about emergencies and big show controversies that gets hinted at then delayed and drawn out and then such never turns into anything and often is never even mentioned again by Opie. Do they really think their fans are that lame they just follow this stuff blindly I thought their fans were the slickest and smartest and would never be led around this way. It reminds me of the fake bits Stern drums up with Electric Eel Man. Not as honest of a show as they make it out to be.

So you haven't read all of the posts so you really don't know what we are talking about.

[BrianFromIowa]

You DO seem to have a thing for long pointy phallic shaped things. :action-sm

That was uh...... hurtful.

And yes, it took me three days to think of this witty retort.

[LiddyRules]

I have not read each post on this thread but this seems like yet another fabricated drama to stir up some talk while they are away for two weeks. They do this lame shit all the time. Think about how many times they have talked about emergencies and big show controversies that gets hinted at then delayed and drawn out and then such never turns into anything and often is never even mentioned again by Opie. Do they really think their fans are that lame they just follow this stuff blindly I thought their fans were the slickest and smartest and would never be led around this way. It reminds me of the fake bits Stern drums up with Electric Eel Man. Not as honest of a show as they make it out to be.

They definitely are doing a brilliant job stirring up drama by getting fans to criticize and complain about the state of the show.

[jkala]

Good question. What's the over/under for the show not coming back from break?

i think they"ll come back from break. and ill give it till mid april till another "red alert" situation comes up again

[FATSEXY]

Do they know what the can and can not do College Boy???

Let's see, Egg Nog Challenge, Sidewalk Fishing, Wifflebat Challenge, Homeless shopping spree (which will suck this year due to the lawyers), etc etc, are all bits that they used to be able to do, but can't now due to the lawyers.

Funny how Hoo Hoo always bitched about the FCC, but the bboys never do, it's always about the lawyers. Seems to me that the boys at least have the balls to call out the company, and not the government, over shit they can't do.

You make the point against the boys without even knowing it. How much and for how long did O&A mercilessly rip Ho-Ho for complaining about the FCC? For a long time.

And then when they started feeling heat, they said "How about it HOWARD?" on the air. That's when I bailed on the show and just started listening to R&F instead. Stern (rightly) said that he wasn't going to help them because he'd been complaining for years about censorship and all O&A did was make fun of him for it.

So now the shoe is on the other foot (I love 1960s sayings, apparently) and the boys are seeing what it's like to be censored.

I hope that they eventually get out of the funk of complaining about it and get back to trying to put on a good show. They are unmatched when they concentrate on doing their show.

And just so you all don't think that I'm anti-O&A, I love the guys, I loved the show back before they complained so much, I am easing back into listening to it again.

They will figure out that they just have to play within the stupid and ever changing rules, and have fun with pushing the envelope as much as they can.

I think Opie should go on air and give out links to porn sites. Just spring that shit on everyone, invite the guy who made Redtube or something on and just interview him about the site.

[Bralio]

You make the point against the boys without even knowing it. How much and for how long did O&A mercilessly rip Ho-Ho for complaining about the FCC? For a long time.

Nobody rips Santy Clause on my wackbag... NOBODY!!

:action-sm

[tpv2066]

I cant post a new thread, but my friend who is an avoid O&A listener just confirmed another lost FM station. WZNE in Rochester NY (home of Brother Weaze as you all know) just dropped O&A. Opie is going to be fucking pissed.

[kloraferm]

I cant post a new thread, but my friend who is an avoid O&A listener just confirmed another lost FM station. WZNE in Rochester NY (home of Brother Weaze as you all know) just dropped O&A. Opie is going to be fucking pissed.
How can your friend be an O&A listener and avoid them as well? Or did you mean "avid"? And by friend did you mean "you"?

[tpv2066]

How can your friend be an O&A listener and avoid them as well? Or did you mean "avid"? And by friend did you mean "you"?

Sorry I suck at life. Yes avid, and no. I listen on XM, I just left the WZNE listening area back in September. Got XM to listen to the boys

[kloraferm]

Sorry I suck at life. Yes avid, and no. I listen on XM, I just left the WZNE listening area back in September. Got XM to listen to the boys
No worries. I was just harmlessly fucking around with ya. Whatever.

[GovtMule1979]

You make the point against the boys without even knowing it. How much and for how long did O&A mercilessly rip Ho-Ho for complaining about the FCC? For a long time.

And then when they started feeling heat, they said "How about it HOWARD?" on the air. That's when I bailed on the show and just started listening to R&F instead. Stern (rightly) said that he wasn't going to help them because he'd been complaining for years about censorship and all O&A did was make fun of him for it.

So now the shoe is on the other foot (I love 1960s sayings, apparently) and the boys are seeing what it's like to be censored.

I hope that they eventually get out of the funk of complaining about it and get back to trying to put on a good show. They are unmatched when they concentrate on doing their show.

And just so you all don't think that I'm anti-O&A, I love the guys, I loved the show back before they complained so much, I am easing back into listening to it again.

They will figure out that they just have to play within the stupid and ever changing rules, and have fun with pushing the envelope as much as they can.

I think Opie should go on air and give out links to porn sites. Just spring that shit on everyone, invite the guy who made Redtube or something on and just interview him about the site.


I agree

[Pearce]

So long to Cape Cod as well.

http://www.webwiseforradio.com/site_files/234/Image/PIXY%20Music%20Morning%20Show.JPG

All these shitty hack stations, with the same shitty hack slogans. Oh well. Enjoy your same 40 songs.

[Ball of Hate]

So are they basically down to KRock and SiriusXM?

[Pearce]

They're on in Norfolk/Virginia Beach, which is nice since it's a top 50 market and all, but it's middays following Mancow. So yes, they're down to KRock and SXM.

[aphelion]

ROn and Fez Noon to 3 kept me onboard til they were back on...

[Ball of Hate]

This sucks. Pretty soon, Stern will have more listeners than O&A (if he doesn't have more already). :(

[Awful Portions]

This is fucking garbage, they are on 3 FM stations? Fuck it then quit. They can't do the bits they want on Satelite, every market they get on FM they get booted for no reason. Fuck it...Hey comedy central smart up 11pm-1am Tough Crowd version 2.0 with O and A and the boys and music and whatever.

[kloraferm]

Most other times I would've just thought it goes up and down like most things, but the way the radio industry's been lately (sat. included), umm...

[LiddyRules]

This is fucking garbage, they are on 3 FM stations? Fuck it then quit. They can't do the bits they want on Satelite, every market they get on FM they get booted for no reason. Fuck it...Hey comedy central smart up 11pm-1am Tough Crowd version 2.0 with O and A and the boys and music and whatever. That's a great idea. Get rid of two of their most popular shows (Daily Show/Colbert Report) and replace it with an increasingly niche, market-losing radio show copying a format from a previous show that failed. Brilliant!

[GovtMule1979]

This is fucking garbage, they are on 3 FM stations? Fuck it then quit. They can't do the bits they want on Satelite, every market they get on FM they get booted for no reason. Fuck it...Hey comedy central smart up 11pm-1am Tough Crowd version 2.0 with O and A and the boys and music and whatever.

I'm sure there are reasons. Low ratings? They don't bill enough? If the show was making money for the stations they would still be on.

[MayrMeninoCrash]

Well Boys, the Edmund Fitzgerald has just left port....she should make it to Whitefish Bay before morning.

Oh and GOOD LUCK BRO!

(linger longer)

[Awful Portions]

Daily Show is past its prime(since Lewis Black and Colbert left) and Colbert's shtick is drivel. I wouldn't turn on comedy central if they didn't have South Park or specials/roasts. Also they are doing fine in ratings...Every market they have been pulled from lately(Philly, Buffalo, Cleveland, Boston, Rochester) it was not over ratings it was the Corporation saving money. Radio sucks in general but its complete and utter bullshit that the O'Reilly/Hannity/Limbaugh are on somewhere around 500 stations and pull 3 mil a week, if O and A at their best since coming back were on 8-10 stations and getting 1.5 i think they were doing ok. I understand the plight of you strick satelite fans not caring if they are only on there, but once they are they enter the same world of irrelevency that HooHoo has in the past years.

[CousinDave]

I haven't watched the Daily SHow since Craig Kilborn was the host.

[okterrificsk2]

So are they basically down to KRock and SiriusXM?
past opie and anthony quotes.

"Fucking one market wonders" , "The virus is spreading", " The biggest comeback in radio history" ,"ona always win in the end", and lastly "the".

its getting really sad now folks(in vos voice).

Ive complained about the ona show more and more over the last 2 years. I really felt they lost their direction at some point. But from now on im not bitching but instead ill just save as much ona/raf old shows i can find online and listen to the current ona show and enjoy what i can because theres no light at the end of this tunnel.

Doomed. Game over man game over. you get nothing. you lose .good day sir. and thats the end of our show donk. your moms box.

[sportsboytony]

past opie and anthony quotes.

"Fucking one market wonders" , "The virus is spreading", " The biggest comeback in radio history" ,"ona always win in the end", and lastly "the".

its getting really sad now folks(in vos voice).

Ive complained about the ona show more and more over the last 2 years. I really felt they lost their direction at some point. But from now on im not bitching but instead ill just save as much ona/raf old shows i can find online and listen to the current ona show and enjoy what i can because theres no light at the end of this tunnel.

Doomed. Game over man game over. you get nothing. you lose .good day sir. and thats the end of our show donk. your moms box.

We all know they're creative enough to make it work. They had tons of restrictions at WNEW (people act like the SfS time radio was all they did..it wasn't..) They made it work then, they'll make it work now. But the key word is "work." They need to start working again. They just can't show up and wing it for 3 hours.. Nobody is good enough to do that 5 days a week.

If satellite goes down the tubes at some point, they'll get stations again, but they'll have to take a pay cut, plain and simple.

[LiddyRules]

Daily Show is past its prime(since Lewis Black and Colbert left) and Colbert's shtick is drivel.

I haven't watched the Daily SHow since Craig Kilborn was the host. Haven't you?

You two aside, and I know a lot of people here don't like The Daily Show (because they don't like Republicans oh no!), it (and Colbert) is a huge show for Comedy Central. They have name recognition and are very renowned brands and my only point was it would be stupid to think that they'd sacrifice that for O+A. Do you honestly think an O+A show on Comedy Central would do for Comedy Central what TDS/Colbert has done?

it was not over ratings it was the Corporation saving money. Am I the only one with a problem going with the "It's the economy!" excuse. No matter how true it is (and I don't doubt that it's at least partially true) I don't want to say it seems disingenuous but it just seems a tad flimsy (though that might not be the right word either) to me. Blaiming the economy is such a vague, nebulous concept that if you're trying to frame an argument, it seems like it would be one of the last things you'd go to when all else fails. If you were trying to defend O+A against non-O+A listeners (not even haters, just non-listeners), do you think saying "well, their ratings were good but they lost all those markets because of the economy" would hold any water? I'm explaining myself like shit but I'm sure someone else on the board knows exactly what I'm talking about and can explain it better. And it has nothing to do with the FM v. satellite battle.

past opie and anthony quotes.

"Fucking one market wonders" , "The virus is spreading", " The biggest comeback in radio history" ,"ona always win in the end", and lastly "the".

its getting really sad now folks(in vos voice). They really should stop playing that "O+A schools other radio hosts with their accomplishments" promo.

Ive complained about the ona show more and more over the last 2 years. I've complained too but I still like the show. And simply not towing the company line isn't a knock against the show.

[okterrificsk2]

I've complained too but I still like the show. And simply not towing the company line isn't a knock against the show.

Oh i agree. My point was im tired of complaining and im just accepting that its not getting better. My point wasnt that people who complain should "buy flush fuck" or whatever the cool "zombie/sheep" saying is these days.

Ive accepted that the shows not getting better and their position in the company is not going to get better. Ive accepted that more than likely there will be no ona show two years from now or two months from now. I dont feel like wasting my energy and being mad anymore. Im just going to try to enjoy what i can of the show and things i dont enjoy im just going to fast forward through and listen less often. Ill always route for ONA and wish them the best. But im not going to get emotionally invested in the OnA shows future. They dont seem to care all that much so why should i?

I still will complain about ESD though :)

[Awful Portions]

So does Krock can them before they are scheduled to come back? Then how long does it take for Sirius to decide that their services aren't needed? And finally how long til they are back on FM?

They may not have been at their best of late, but if you look at Talkers 100, there is no one else i'd rather listen too. Although i do listen to Jim Rome, some R&F and Thom Hartman. I'd love to see HooHoo, Artie and the JokeMan to do a show at PNC or where ever and see what crowd they get

[Aaron Burrito]

Haven't you?

You two aside, and I know a lot of people here don't like The Daily Show (because they don't like Republicans oh no!), it (and Colbert) is a huge show for Comedy Central. They have name recognition and are very renowned brands and my only point was it would be stupid to think that they'd sacrifice that for O+A. Do you honestly think an O+A show on Comedy Central would do for Comedy Central what TDS/Colbert has done?

Am I the only one with a problem going with the "It's the economy!" excuse. No matter how true it is (and I don't doubt that it's at least partially true) I don't want to say it seems disingenuous but it just seems a tad flimsy (though that might not be the right word either) to me. Blaiming the economy is such a vague, nebulous concept that if you're trying to frame an argument, it seems like it would be one of the last things you'd go to when all else fails. If you were trying to defend O+A against non-O+A listeners (not even haters, just non-listeners), do you think saying "well, their ratings were good but they lost all those markets because of the economy" would hold any water? I'm explaining myself like shit but I'm sure someone else on the board knows exactly what I'm talking about and can explain it better. And it has nothing to do with the FM v. satellite battle.

They really should stop playing that "O+A schools other radio hosts with their accomplishments" promo.

I've complained too but I still like the show. And simply not towing the company line isn't a knock against the show.

But..but...they were "trending upward" in Boston.

Yeah, "trended upward" so much that they're off the charts.

Again I agree with what you said.