Yet another SiriusXM rate increase on the way

[Aaron Burrito]

Subscriptions at a rate of $12.95 will be charged a $1.98 monthly, for the US Music
Royalty Fee

Subscriptions with multiple radios will be charged $0.97 monthly, for the US Music


http://www.xmfan.com/viewtopic.php?t=103093&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

So our primary account will be increased by $2 and now the extra radios are $3 more once your current sub runs out. (remember that the secondary accounts went from $6.99 to $8.99)

Sirius is using the royalty fees as an excuse to raise our rates.

[d0uche_n0zzle]

I believe it's time for the FCC, FTC, and any other motherfucker agency to ass **** Melvin and his mental midgets (aka the Jew Crew, Suits, etc...) for lying like a bunch CUNT's.

[oandapartycock]

Keep hammering those nails into the coffin Mel. $13+$3+$2, so $18 a month for radio, internet and royalties (what I was getting for less than half that a year ago)? Good luck with that in this economy.

Luckily by the time my subscription runs out in 2011, internet radio in cars will be doable for me.

[CousinDave]

I think I'll just switch to the other satellite radio service

oh wait I can't do that because the fucking govt allowed this monopoly to exist.

[D.H. Jenkins]

Rates would have gone up whether there was a merger or not.

Neither company was even close to making a profit, and a business can't survive if it spends more than it makes. Yes, paying hoo-hoo $100M/year is part of the problem, and probably why rates are rising to the degree that they are, but an increase was inevitable.

[oandapartycock]

Rates would have gone up whether there was a merger or not.

Neither company was even close to making a profit, and a business can't survive if it spends more than it makes. Yes, paying hoo-hoo $100M/year is part of the problem, and probably why rates are rising to the degree that they are, but an increase was inevitable.

Problem is, "no rate increases" was part of their merger deal with the FCC and DOJ.

[CousinDave]

Problem is, "no rate increases" was part of their merger deal with the FCC and DOJ.


this probably isnt considered a subscription increase, its a fee or something like that

[D.H. Jenkins]

Problem is, "no rate increases" was part of their merger deal with the FCC and DOJ.

Well then that's just bullshit.

I think I'll write a letter.

[jackjack]

I have two radios on my account. Four months ago my bill was $20. $13 for the primary and $7 for the additional unit.
Now my bill is $25. I moved to a state that charges both a state and a local tax on the service, $1.81 state and $1.11 local. Adding the $2 increase for the second unit makes just under $25.
Next month the royalty fees will add another three dollars, making the bill $28.

I realize the taxes aren't Mel's doing, that's the state government here. However, the bottom line for me is I used to pay $20, now it will be $28. In addition, I am less happy with the service than I was when I started with it in June of '05.
So, even though the new increase is only $3 a month, I'm out. That ended up being the tipping point for me.
I wonder how many others feel the same.

[Aaron Burrito]

this probably isnt considered a subscription increase, its a fee or something like that

That's the "loophole" here. Technically, yes, this is allowed because of the royalty fee increase however Sirius is going above and beyond the additional cost. According to that thread the additional fee should only be 6 cents.

The rate went from 6% to 6.5%.


I have two radios on my account. Four months ago my bill was $20. $13 for the primary and $7 for the additional unit.
Now my bill is $25. I moved to a state that charges both a state and a local tax on the service, $1.81 state and $1.11 local. Adding the $2 increase for the second unit makes just under $25.
Next month the royalty fees will add another three dollars, making the bill $28.

I realize the taxes aren't Mel's doing, that's the state government here. However, the bottom line for me is I used to pay $20, now it will be $28. In addition, I am less happy with the service than I was when I started with it in June of '05.
So, even though the new increase is only $3 a month, I'm out. That ended up being the tipping point for me.
I wonder how many others feel the same.

That's exactly it, the product has gone to shit and I can't justify paying for it anymore.

[LastDeadMouse]

I realize the taxes aren't Mel's doing, that's the state government here. However, the bottom line for me is I used to pay $20, now it will be $28. In addition, I am less happy with the service than I was when I started with it in June of '05.
So, even though the new increase is only $3 a month, I'm out. That ended up being the tipping point for me.
I wonder how many others feel the same.

I've only got one radio, but I can't justify paying $180 a year to listen to The Virus, and that is literally all I listen to on my Inno anymore. I'm gonna get myself an ipod and switch over to audible which is around $105 a year for both Ron & Fez and O & A. I know I could get the shows for free, but I still want to support them financially.

[STARTSOMETHING]

this probably isnt considered a subscription increase, its a fee or something like that

Remember when blockbuster had to pay back the late fees. I'm seeing this happening.

[STARTSOMETHING]

I've only got one radio, but I can't justify paying $180 a year to listen to The Virus, and that is literally all I listen to on my Inno anymore. I'm gonna get myself an ipod and switch over to audible which is around $105 a year for both Ron & Fez and O & A. I know I could get the shows for free, but I still want to support them financially.

I'll probably follow.

[WoodenPlank]

Im starting to be happy with my decision to not reactivate my XM radio.

[Begbie]

I was just too livid after the programming change. I had tried Sirius a few years ago and I really disliked the music programming. And when they essentially dismantled XM's lineup in favor of Sirius, I was done. Customer retention had promised when I called to cancel, big changes in January that might entice me to stay. The only changes that were announced around this time was rate increases for online listening and multiple radios.

When I started back in 2004 with XM, I paid $11.98/mo for service and High Voltage. Now with two family radios tacked on...comparable service would cost me around $30/mo. For fuckin radio! I'd only listen to 202 anyway since the music now sucks.

[MayrMeninoCrash]

glad I cancelled several months ago.......

Fuck Mel and his shitty company....

[D.H. Jenkins]

I just 'automatically' re-upped last month and it was about $145 for the year. I don't even need the sub, as my commute is 5 minutes and I download the shows illegally and listen to them later.

To me, it's about keeping Norton and Friends on the air. They've got enough problems over there as it is without their numbers dropping, and if they lose this - that's pretty much it unless they want to podcast.

If there's another way to support the bbboys and keep them going which doesn't involve paying Sirius, I'm all for it.



Let the "so you think you're a better fan because you pay" flaming begin...:action-sm

[Awful Me]

I just 'automatically' re-upped last month and it was about $145 for the year. I don't even need the sub, as my commute is 5 minutes and I download the shows illegally and listen to them later.

To me, it's about keeping Norton and Friends on the air. They've got enough problems over there as it is without their numbers dropping, and if they lose this - that's pretty much it unless they want to podcast.

If there's another way to support the bbboys and keep them going which doesn't involve paying Sirius, I'm all for it.



Let the "so you think you're a better fan because you pay" flaming begin...:action-sm


I agree and endorse the above statement.

[Aaron Burrito]

I just 'automatically' re-upped last month and it was about $145 for the year. I don't even need the sub, as my commute is 5 minutes and I download the shows illegally and listen to them later.

To me, it's about keeping Norton and Friends on the air. They've got enough problems over there as it is without their numbers dropping, and if they lose this - that's pretty much it unless they want to podcast.

If there's another way to support the bbboys and keep them going which doesn't involve paying Sirius, I'm all for it.



Let the "so you think you're a better fan because you pay" flaming begin...:action-sm


My sub automatically re-upped as well but I caught it in time, canceled and then re-upped for $77 a year. My primary account is cheaper than my secondary subs.

[jackjack]

My sub automatically re-upped as well but I caught it in time, canceled and then re-upped for $77 a year. My primary account is cheaper than my secondary subs.

I haven't made the call to cancel yet, my bill date is the 17th. If they offer me $77 a year I would be tempted to drop the second radio and stay with one for another year.

[Biff Hardslab]

I just 'automatically' re-upped last month and it was about $145 for the year. I don't even need the sub, as my commute is 5 minutes and I download the shows illegally and listen to them later.

To me, it's about keeping Norton and Friends on the air. They've got enough problems over there as it is without their numbers dropping, and if they lose this - that's pretty much it unless they want to podcast.

If there's another way to support the bbboys and keep them going which doesn't involve paying Sirius, I'm all for it.



Let the "so you think you're a better fan because you pay" flaming begin...:action-sm

It's that kind of "go get 'em" attitude that keeps the "bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbboys" (now I feel dirty) on the air and keeps the show available for me to aquire in ways that don't affect my pocketbook.

I don't think you're a better fan because you pay. I know you are. If you didn't pay, I would have to. So Thanks!!!!!:action-sm:action-sm:action-sm:action-sm:piss2:action-sm:action-sm:action-sm

[Jef Leppard]

I haven't made the call to cancel yet, my bill date is the 17th. If they offer me $77 a year I would be tempted to drop the second radio and stay with one for another year.

call the promotions dept. tell em you want the $77 year offer. they will ask "what will you do if its not available?". as much as i wanted to say "how fuckin retarded are you?" i just said id cancel today. got the deal.

[Sinn Fein]

I thought Mel said that the merger would be better for consumers - more choices - lower prices. What happened?

Fucking assholes.

[seller326]

Cocksuckers!

[Gonzoid]

95%:OnA, Rnf,
5% Mad Dog Radio and occassionally ESPN radio.

The only reasons I am paying for this service. I have an iPod that I can get podcats and whatever songs I want...the music on this service sucks a dick.

Dumb fuck Mel needs to understand that in this economy, sat radio is a luxury and when people look to cut back that will be one of the first things gone.

[TheOnion]

This is pretty funny given the bbboys were talking about this same type shit yesterday.

yes the cock is getting ticker and going deeper.

[Crooklyn Jigger]

Just keep pushing us to wifi radio you filthy cunt bag Mel. The music sucks, O & A commercial breaks are waaayyy too long and painful, you treat the boys like shit, AND you want to keep ass fucking us with rate increases?!!

GO FUCK YOURSELF IN YOUR JEW HOLE MOTHER FUCKER!!

[Leeham]

How DARE a business operate as a money making machine!
Those bastards!

[bradolson]

You can avoid the fees for a while by signing up for a 1/2/3 year plan (and even save some $ per month with the longer plans). Then you won't get charged the royalty fee until that contract ends.

[SOS]

How DARE a business operate as a money making machine!
Those bastards!

I thought Mel said that the merger would be better for consumers - more choices - lower prices. What happened?

Fucking assholes.


;)

[ScottFromGA]

welp...just put the nail in the coffin for me...

I'll be cancelling my sub after this weekend.

one funny thing, I had to get a new ATM card and never called JEW-XM to update...so I'm going on 3 months with service I haven't paid for.

Fuck them.

[UCJOE]

You can avoid the fees for a while by signing up for a 1/2/3 year plan (and even save some $ per month with the longer plans). Then you won't get charged the royalty fee until that contract ends.

I have about 16 months left on my 2 year & after that I doubt I'll stay
I hardly listen anymore anyway & can find the best stuff easily enough

[aahpandasrun]

Maybe if Sirius XM started marketing their actual content instead of gimmick channels like Oprah and Martha Stewart, they wouldn't have failed so hard.

[Three Hole Puncher]

How DARE a business operate as a money making machine!
Those bastards!

Business 101...

Successful businesses operate as customer pleasing machines, not money making machines.

Any business which puts profit ahead of customers will soon have neither.

[nortonsanus]

From an internal Sirius XM Document


Quote:
US Music Royalty Fee Overview
As an ongoing part of our business, SIRIUS XM must pay copyright music royalties to music
companies and music publishers. These royalties have risen dramatically over the past few
years, as a result of decisions of the Copyright Royalty Board (CRB). SIRIUS XM has tried to
keep these fees as low as possible but in the end, the company has very limited influence over these payments. The FCC decision approving the merger between SIRIUS and XM allows the company to pass through to Subscribers any federally mandated increases in music royalties that we must pay, since March 20, 2007. The FCC decision allows us to pass through this fee increase to our Subscribers and the company has chosen to do this with the U.S. Music Royalty Fee.

The US Music Royalty Fee will be applied to all music subscriptions that SIRIUS XM offers. The fee will be implemented on July 29th, 2009. The existing Subscriber base will receive this fee on their first billing after this date. The fee will be applied to all satellite plans with music content on a Monthly, Quarterly, Semi-Annual and all Annual Savings Plans. Lifetime Subscribers, who have purchased prior to July 29th, will never receive the US Music Royalty Fee. Since the online products are not satellite based they will not incur the U.S. Music Royalty Fee. Once the fee is introduced on July 29th, any new activation or conversion will include the fee. As we go through this training, you will gain a better understanding of how this fee is applied and how to explain it to the Subscribers. We will be going through different scenarios so you can understand why we are passing this fee onto our Subscribers, how to diffuse irate Subscribers, and how the Subscriber can truly benefit by adding longer term plans.

A support group of LCR’s will handle Subscribers calling in response to the US Music
Royalty Fee

The below are the XM and SIRIUS Terms & Conditions (T’s & C’s) including verbiage for
disclosing the US Music Royalty Fee. These Terms & Conditions will ensure that the
Subscriber has been informed about the US Music Royalty Fee that will be introduced starting July 29th.

Legacy XM T&C’s:
“OK. Mr./Mrs. _______, you’ve made a great decision. We will renew your service for (Insert plan selection). Your subscription will be subject to the US Music Royalty fee starting July 29th and is governed by the XM Customer Agreement which you can find on our website. Please be sure to read it. Thank you very much for your time today and enjoy your XM Satellite Radio! If we can be of
further assistance, please call 1-800-XMRADIO (800-967-2346). Thanks again and have a great day.”

Legacy SIRIUS T&C’s:
“OK. Mr./Mrs. _______, you’ve made a great decision. We will renew your service for (Insert plan selection). Your subscription will be subject to the US Music Royalty fee starting July 29th and is governed by our full Terms & Conditions which you can find on our website; please be sure to read it. Thank you very much for your time today and enjoy your SIRIUS Satellite Radio! If we can be of further assistance, please call 888-539-7474. Thanks again and have a great day.”
Attached FAQ


Quote:
US Music Royalty Fee- FAQ’s

Below are examples questions you may receive from Subscribers regarding the US Music
Royalty Fee. Use Answers below (as verbatim) when answering questions about why
there is a US Music Royalty Fee or costs associated with the US Music Royalty Fee.

What is this US Music Royalty Fee?
Unlike land based radio, both SIRIUS and XM are required to pay copyright music royalties to recording artists, musicians and recording companies who hold copyrights to lyrics and music.

Why are you increasing your price?
We are not increasing our base price which will remain at $12.95/month for most Subscribers.

Why are you charging me this fee?
US Music Royalty rights were established by Congress and are a product of the copyright ACT, the copyright royalty board which sets the rates SIRIUS XM must pay the music industry has increased the rates dramatically. Unfortunately we can no longer absorb these increased costs.

Who makes up the Copyright Royalty Board (CRB)?
The Copyright Royalty Board consists of three Copyright Royalty Judges who determine rates and terms for copyright statutory licenses and make determinations on distribution of statutory license royalties collected by the United States Copyright Office of the Library of Congress. The Board, made up of three permanent copyright royalty judges, was created under the Copyright Royalty and Distribution Reform Act of 2004, These administrative judges are appointed by the Librarian of Congress

Why does it cost so much?
The Copyright Royalty Board which sets the rates SIRIUS XM must pay the music industry
have increased the rates dramatically. Unfortunately the Company can no longer absorb these increased costs and must pass them on to subscribers as a US Music Royalty Fee.

Is there any way to avoid this charge?
Absolutely, for our Subscribers who previously purchased a long term plan, we will continue to absorb these costs until the next renewal date. If you renew and extend your current subscription before July 29, 2009 we will continue to absorb these increased royalty costs until your next renewal date. I can tell you about some our great savings plans.

FCC Ruling stated you can't raise your price, why are you doing it?
This fee is consistent with our commitment not to raise the base price of specific service plans for three years after the merger. The FCC did however permit us to add this fee to our price beginning July 29, 2009.
18
Version: June 2009
This document contains the confidential and proprietary information of SIRIUS XM Satellite Radio.

How does this relate to the March Increase?
It is unrelated; the US Music Royalty Fee is to recover royalty cost increases that are outside of the control of SIRIUS XM

I just locked in for MRD, why are you increasing it again?
If you purchased a multi-month plan to lock in a lower price or to retain free streaming, the US Music Royalty Fee will not affect you until the next renewal date for the Plan you purchased.

Who gets the money?
The US Music Royalty Fee will be used to offset payments from SIRIUS XM to the music
industry

Do you foresee any changes in the fee?
The Copyright Royalty Board sets the fees that SIRIUS XM is required to pay. The fee is
expected to increase by one half percent per year through 2012.

Why did you decide to charge a US Music Royalty Fee rather than adding the increase to
the subscription fee?
The FCC order requires that we detail the royalty increase for our Subscribers

Why is the US MRF taxed?
Under applicable tax regulations, it has been determined that the US MRF is a taxable charge.

I only listen to news and talk radio, so why should I be charged the US MRF?
I understand, however it would be impossible to calculate the US Music Royalty Fee based on individual listening patterns of our Subscribers

You recently increased the price of my second radio by $2.00. Now you are adding a US
MRF of $.97. Isn’t this too much?
The discounted second radio price of $8.99 is still a 30% savings over our standard fee. The addition of a US Music Royalty Fee is necessary due to the dramatic increase in royalties that we have been forced to pay the music industry.

Was I paying this fee previously as part of my subscription price and now am I paying for
it separately?
Until July 29, 2009 the FCC required SIRIUS XM to pay the royalty increases, however the order provided the ability for us to pass along these royalty cost increases beginning July 29, 2009

If I have an A La Carte subscription am I only paying the fee on the music channels?
That’s a great question, SIRIUS –XM is obligated to pay the US Music Royalty Fee based on
the content available in packages, unfortunately we are not able to customize the fee for
individual Subscribers

US Music Royalty Fee- FAQ’s
Is there a way to reduce this cost--can I switch my subscription package to mostly music
You may switch to a mostly music package, which will save you $.45 a month in US Music
Royalty Fees, but if you do that, you will be giving up over xx channels (different for SIRIUS and XM) of great programming. However, let me tell you about some of our great savings plan which will allow you to delay the US Music Royalty Fee for the term of that plan.

I have an online radio subscription; do I pay a royalty fee on that?
No, the music royalties associated with satellite delivery and internet deliver y of music content are different. The royalties associated with internet listening is absorbed in the subscription price

I have 2 subscriptions a Best of and a SIRIUS Everything why is the fee the same on both
subscriptions The US Music Royalty Fee is based on music; the channels included in the Best of portion of your package do not include large amounts of music, so no US Music Royalty fee is due on that portion of your subscription.

[DocSavage]

I wonder if my paid for lifetime sub will go up.

[DocSavage]

I wonder if my paid for lifetime sub will go up.

"Is there any way to avoid this charge?
Absolutely, for our Subscribers who previously purchased a long term plan, we will continue to absorb these costs until the next renewal date. If you renew and extend your current subscription before July 29, 2009 we will continue to absorb these increased royalty costs until your next renewal date. I can tell you about some our great savings plans."


I guess I'm good...

[Mak]

Glad my XM radio got broken, wow satellite radio is going into the crapper. In a few years, satellite radio will be all but dead, as well as the rest of the broadcasting industry for the most part.

[habeasrob]

CUT expenses. Get rid of the f'ing dj's! I am not paying to hear idiots talk over the music. I can get that for free. Just like these morning mash-up idiots--if its a talk show put them on a talk station, otherwise shut up and play music.

But they do have a nice website....

[CousinDave]

cut expenses. Get rid of the f'ing dj's! I am not paying to hear idiots talk over the music. I can get that for free.

x2

[nneptune]

http://www.xmfan.com/viewtopic.php?t=103093&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

So our primary account will be increased by $2 and now the extra radios are $3 more once your current sub runs out. (remember that the secondary accounts went from $6.99 to $8.99)

Sirius is using the royalty fees as an excuse to raise our rates.

With the way Sirius has totally fucked up the music programming (the original reason I got XM to begin with), and Mel's bullshit, I've about had it.

Would I ever listen to terrestrial again. No.
But, they've become eerily similar, and I'm really starting to feel like I'm throwing my money away.

[Aaron Burrito]

CUT expenses. Get rid of the f'ing dj's! I am not paying to hear idiots talk over the music. I can get that for free. Just like these morning mash-up idiots--if its a talk show put them on a talk station, otherwise shut up and play music.

But they do have a nice website....

That's what really pissed my off. I listen to hip hop and Hip Hop Nation was shit but they hired the guy (Leo G) that programed Raw(XM 66) and he turned things around and the station had gotten much better. Two week ago Leo was fired due to budget cuts and now the station had gone to shit. It's almost like Sirius is trying to fail.

And yes, I only want to hear people talking on the talk station.


With the way Sirius has totally fucked up the music programming (the original reason I got XM to begin with), and Mel's bullshit, I've about had it.

Would I ever listen to terrestrial again. No.
But, they've become eerily similar, and I'm really starting to feel like I'm throwing my money away.

I stopped listening to the music channels and went back to using my Ipod and downloading music.

[NOAFan]

I stopped listening to the music channels and went back to using my Ipod and downloading music.

XM's music was vastly superior, and when the merger happened, it seemed to improve Sirius's channels. Now they're back to shit.

[d0uche_n0zzle]

x2

x3 and bring back real programmers.

Not some trendy douche who just updates from the current 'list' of corporate music, maaan.

[RolfNetherlands]

HAHA you are all FUCKED :D :D :D

[okterrificsk2]

OH MAN THIS FUCKING SUCKS FUCK... oh wait i canceled all my "xm" subs months ago and got an audible sub, bigger mp3 player, + learned torrents incase Mel shit cans Audible.

I refuse to pay increasing fees on a product that gets increasingly worse overtime. Thats just some weird principal i have i guess.

[mascan42]

I refuse to pay increasing fees on a product that gets increasingly worse overtime. Thats just some weird principal i have i guess.
This.


And of course, XM's high tech customer service site has crashed once again, so I can't look up my account info.

Oh and guess what folks . . . THE ONLINE-ONLY SERVICE IS NOW JUST AS EXPENSIVE AS THE REGULAR SERVICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.xmradio.com/onlineonly/index.xmc

[nortonsanus]

This.

Once my current sub is up in October, I'm going with an online-only sub . . . and torrents for in the car.

And of course, XM's high tech customer service site has crashed once again, so I can't look up my account info.Their still gonna charge you $12.95 + $2.99 + $2 even with just an online account . Best to use audible & another music provider like Slacker or Pandora . Or just sign up for the 3 day trail over and over.

[Little Chuckie]

Can I get XM without music? I NEVER listen to music on it anyways.

[TOM CHARLESTON]

About $15 bucks a month if you have XM, lunch at a fastfood joint is about $7-8 bucks. Pack your lunch 2 times a month and support O and A, and get the show live. I have sirius and pay full price "best of XM" just to get 197, fuck NBA-NHL-oprah

[Rackrunner]

I wonder if my paid for lifetime sub will go up.The US Music Royalty Fee will be applied to all music subscriptions that SIRIUS XM offers. The fee will be implemented on July 29th, 2009. The existing Subscriber base will receive this fee on their first billing after this date. The fee will be applied to all satellite plans with music content on a Monthly, Quarterly, Semi-Annual and all Annual Savings Plans. Lifetime Subscribers, who have purchased prior to July 29th, will never receive the US Music Royalty Fee. Since the online products are not satellite based they will not incur the U.S. Music Royalty Fee. Once the fee is introduced on July 29th, any new activation or conversion will include the fee. As we go through this training, you will gain a better understanding of how this fee is applied and how to explain it to the Subscribers. We will be going through different scenarios so you can understand why we are passing this fee onto our Subscribers, how to diffuse irate Subscribers, and how the Subscriber can truly benefit by adding longer term plans.

[MayrMeninoCrash]

The US Music Royalty Fee will be applied to all music subscriptions that SIRIUS XM offers. The fee will be implemented on July 29th, 2009. The existing Subscriber base will receive this fee on their first billing after this date. The fee will be applied to all satellite plans with music content on a Monthly, Quarterly, Semi-Annual and all Annual Savings Plans. Lifetime Subscribers, who have purchased prior to July 29th, will never receive the US Music Royalty Fee. Since the online products are not satellite based they will not incur the U.S. Music Royalty Fee. Once the fee is introduced on July 29th, any new activation or conversion will include the fee. As we go through this training, you will gain a better understanding of how this fee is applied and how to explain it to the Subscribers. We will be going through different scenarios so you can understand why we are passing this fee onto our Subscribers, how to diffuse irate Subscribers, and how the Subscriber can truly benefit by adding longer term plans.

Something tells me the results of Mel's recent price increase to force a large number of subscribers to choose his long term plans wasn't too successful, so this is "Phase 2" of "Lock in as many rubes to my shitty online service as I can" plan.

To all those people who say "give up 2 lunches a month" to pay for SiriXM you are like a battered wife who keeps going back for more of the abusive husband. Mel doesn't give a fuck about the boys, so your subscription means nothing of "support". All it means is that Mel gets to keep paying for the mansion in the Hamptons and has plenty of ammunition to keep throwing big contracts to Hoo-Hoo, Oprah and Martha.

[TOM CHARLESTON]

"so your subscription means nothing of "support"."

I pay for the show, I dont steal it, I thought that was support. What is it you call support?


"All it means is that Mel gets to keep paying for the mansion in the Hamptons and has plenty of ammunition to keep throwing big contracts to Hoo-Hoo, Oprah and Martha.
'

Im confused then, WHO pays O,A, and J's small contracts. P.S.I dont want them on regular radio only, I dont live in NY.

[Zona]

Rates would have gone up whether there was a merger or not.

Neither company was even close to making a profit, and a business can't survive if it spends more than it makes. Yes, paying hoo-hoo $100M/year is part of the problem, and probably why rates are rising to the degree that they are, but an increase was inevitable.

I know you are right, but deep down, it feels like i have to pay extra from that fuck Howard Stern.

I (just yesterday) cancelled a sub on my second radio. I told the nice American woman on the phone....why. I said my wife hates everything about Stern and was pissed because she had to hear him on his commercials on the XM side.....she said one more commercial, that was it. Well, that's exactly what happened, so that line is cut.

I was told my cost of 17.99 for those two lines was cnx but..BUT...my cost for my remaining radio was going to be 12.99, vice what it was. It would have been caught eventually she said but I was paying to little for the two radio's.

So, I went from 17.99 for two radio's to 12.99 for the one.

Fuck Stern! Its not the amount of money, its the feeling I am paying more for Sern that really really gets under my skin.

[Danza's Mule]

I'm out. Pandora plays the exact music I want, streams on my phone, and O&A shows are on all torrent sites with no commercials.

My $28 a month can go towards other bills... I don't want to do it, but I just can't justify this anymore.

[nortonsanus]

"so your subscription means nothing of "support"."

I pay for the show, I dont steal it, I thought that was support. What is it you call support?


"All it means is that Mel gets to keep paying for the mansion in the Hamptons and has plenty of ammunition to keep throwing big contracts to Hoo-Hoo, Oprah and Martha.
'

Im confused then, WHO pays O,A, and J's small contracts. P.S.I dont want them on regular radio only, I dont live in NY.I don't care who pays them . I'm sure not gonna help pay Mel ! O&A already been paid .

[nortonsanus]

I'm out. Pandora plays the exact music I want, streams on my phone, and O&A shows are on all torrent sites with no commercials.

My $28 a month can go towards other bills... I don't want to do it, but I just can't justify this anymore.Try Slacker too , you can customize it alittle more than pandora . I have created all my favorite Xm channels on there and they are even better than they were on Xm.

[TOM CHARLESTON]

"I don't care who pays them . I'm sure not gonna help pay Mel "

news flash, Mel pays them, if they didn't have Mel paying them you would only have live from the compound!!!

[okterrificsk2]

"so your subscription means nothing of "support"."





Hey dummy cant speak for everyone but i have audible so i do support ona and Raf and i dont steal it though i do know how to incase of censored shows. Yet another reason why i dont pay for a sub you censor or cut an "uncensored" show and then say fuck you pay me? no fuck YOU sirius fuck YOU. Along with your shitty music channels with you shrinking playlists and limited variety and dbag talk too much dj's. And fuck you Sirius with your live reads on my fav talk shows. and fuck you sirius with your shitty circa 2006 hardware.

Most people that have canceled are not poor or cheap(they wouldnt have xm in the first place) 15$ a month is nothing to me. The point is at its current state i wouldnt pay $1 a month for the service but if i could have locked in the "XM experience" from around late 2005 -2006 i would gladly pay $100 a month. If you want to be a sucker then pay up. This company does not deserve to get my money so i dont give them my money its not so hard to understand.

If this company is still around in a couple years ill pick up a sub and see if theres been improvement but we all know the chances it will be around in two years AND its improved are about 5% at this time.

"I don't care who pays them . I'm sure not gonna help pay Mel "

news flash, Mel pays them, if they didn't have Mel paying them you would only have live from the compound!!!

"news flash" yuk u faggot learn how to quote already tom

[Arythmetics]

We all knew this was going to happen sooner or later. I was suspicious of the ability to pass on programming cost as part of the "price free" merger agreement.

I guess I picked the right time to get a lifetime sub. Free +premium 128k online, no more fee increases ever.

[charlie dick]

I don't even need the sub, as my commute is 5 minutes and I download the shows illegally and listen to them later.
Hmmm....

So why don't you just record the show from the online feed? One more tic mark on the boys' listenership stats yaknow ...

[charlie dick]

...along the lines of my above reply ...

Seems to me that if you want to a) support the show, AND b) cut the amount you pay to the bourgeois, you can.

Drop all your radio subs and pay only the fee for the online service.

Besides Audible subs, I believe that the only reliable listener stats come from XMRO so the boys would get the numbers, and it is a helluva lot cheaper than the hardware alternative. Cheaper than Aubidle too, methinks, especially since you'd get a decent subset of the full SiriXM lineup.

Me, I'm looking at a combined yearly total that is well over $300 for two Sky-Fi2's and an Inno and thinking that it's about time I learned how to use that Roxio software that's on the SO's 'puter... I can live without a commercial-free recording if I can keep the show and Bluesville.

[nortonsanus]

...along the lines of my above reply ...

Seems to me that if you want to a) support the show, AND b) cut the amount you pay to the bourgeois, you can.

Drop all your radio subs and pay only the fee for the online service.

Besides Audible subs, I believe that the only reliable listener stats come from XMRO so the boys would get the numbers, and it is a helluva lot cheaper than the hardware alternative. Cheaper than Aubidle too, methinks, especially since you'd get a decent subset of the full SiriXM lineup.

Me, I'm looking at a combined yearly total that is well over $300 for two Sky-Fi2's and an Inno and thinking that it's about time I learned how to use that Roxio software that's on the SO's 'puter... I can live without a commercial-free recording if I can keep the show and Bluesville.I listen for free and have for about 2 years now, so i guess i'm keeping the show and not paying Mel . Love the blues by the way and have my own custom blues channel (slacker) with no talkitive dj's . Paying for radio was never a smart idea .

[ILuvDogShit]

glad I cancelled several months ago.......

Fuck Mel and his shitty company....


I second that... Cancelled all four of my radios back in December and been listening to OnA LIVE on my Windows Mobile phone using a secret stream. Works and sounds great.

Making money is one thing... Gouging is another.

[nortonsanus]

I second that... Cancelled all four of my radios back in December and been listening to OnA LIVE on my Windows Mobile phone using a secret stream. Works and sounds great.

Making money is one thing... Gouging is another.Check your pm yo !

[NOAFan]

The best way to support the Bbboys (and R&F) is clearly Audible.com. I refuse to give another penny to that piece of shit company or the two assholes (Stern and Karmazin) who run it. A year sub for O&A on Audible is only $70, and R&F is half that. Stealing does serve a purpose (fucking SiriXM), but don't kid yourselves into thinking it helps the show.

[Brokeback Jimmy]

Well, I'm not going to get on some high horse and say fuck 'em, I'm canceling. I go where the boys go. As long as O&A are on XM, I will have at least one sub.

Those shitdicks lost one of my extra subs. They sent me an offer to get a free speaker base for the myfi. So, the SkyFi II in my office will be cancelled, and I'll use the MyFi everywhere but my truck, where I have a built in nav/iPod/XM unit.


Way to fuck everything up, Mel. Everyone knew your Jewy Jewness would ruin everything.

I BLAME THE JEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[vegasbob]

I wish for an "A La Cart Service"

1. XM 202 (90%)
2. XM 165 (3%)
3. ESPN (3%)
4. NASCAR (2%)
5. Lithium (2%)

The Only 5 channels I listen to.

[okterrificsk2]

I BLAME THE JEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well i blame the blacks.

[GrammatonCleric]

Well i blame the blacks.

Oh Yeah? Then I counter your attack with my
http://teapottantrums.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c1aee53ef010534c02e49970c-800wi

[nortonsanus]

It's the fithy Asians dude !

[Death Metal Moe]

Ya know what, if this rate increase goes through that's it for my subs. I'm sorry, I've been TRYING to be a good fucking soldier for MONTHS now but I'm unemployed and the one channel I buy the fucking service for gets disrespected.

I just cancelled my OWN FUCKING RADIO and added online listening to my mother's radio which I use. So I'm paying XM to give my father, mother and grandmother the service as I sit and listen online. I hated dropping my radio but what else could I do? Had to make a hard choice and saving a little money there was a good one.

If this goes through I'm dropping my family's subs and keeping mine active or outright dropping the company completely. This ain't no threat either, it's coming down to my bottom line and Sirius/XM is pricing itself right out of my life.

[Death Metal Moe]

Oh Yeah? Then I counter your attack with my
http://teapottantrums.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c1aee53ef010534c02e49970c-800wi

Damn, that brings back a lot of girl-less nights spent at dining room tables.

[d0uche_n0zzle]

This ain't no threat either, it's coming down to my bottom line and Sirius/XM is pricing itself right out of my life.

No doubt.

No reason to support a bunch of lying thieving cocksuckers, who destroyed the music, and everything else great about satellite radio.

[Death Metal Moe]

No doubt.

No reason to support a bunch of lying thieving cocksuckers, who destroyed the music, and everything else great about satellite radio.

The ONLY reason is O&A and Ron and Fez. But satellite radio is a luxury, not a necessity. If I can't afford it, I'm sorry, but I'll have to leave it.

It pains me to even seriously consider it, but Mel's last price increase wacked me for a little too much for my tastes, considering the quality of the other stations, and now this?

No dice man, no dice.

[okterrificsk2]

No dice man


http://www.foreverpurple.com/blog/media/users/admin/adc_dork.jpg

[Taintkisser]

im starting to be happy with my decision to not reactivate my xm radio.

x2

[seller326]

If they fire Mel and refuse to renew Howard's contract, they can save a lot of money

[MilkmanDan]

I'm not sure I give satellite another year.
Pretty sure Ron and Fez and O&A could retire comfortably.
Until then, its 3 day free trials for me, one after the next.

[nortonsanus]

I'm not sure I give satellite another year.
Pretty sure Ron and Fez and O&A could retire comfortably.
Until then, its 3 day free trials for me, one after the next.This is what i do :action-sm

[kloraferm]

I'm not sure I give satellite another year.
Pretty sure Ron and Fez and O&A could retire comfortably.
Until then, its 3 day free trials for me, one after the next.
I kind of hate the fact that I agree with that. I really hope I'm wrong.

[Bralio]

CUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NNNNNTS

Fuckin Mel... back out a little, I think you hit my spleen on that one.

[Ego]

OH MAN THIS FUCKING SUCKS FUCK... oh wait i canceled all my "xm" subs months ago and got an audible sub, bigger mp3 player, + learned torrents incase Mel shit cans Audible.

I refuse to pay increasing fees on a product that gets increasingly worse overtime. Thats just some weird principal i have i guess.
x 2

[kloraferm]

http://www.foreverpurple.com/blog/media/users/admin/adc_dork.jpg
I blame the Old Navy lady's son

[salz4life]

Well i blame the blacks.

What about the gays?

[pfat]

Fucking whiners.

Go deliver 2 or 3 pizzas a month and that will pay for your radio.

[nortonsanus]

Fucking whiners.

Go deliver 2 or 3 pizzas a month and that will pay for your radio.Waste of gas when i could just get it free . :action-sm

[Death Metal Moe]

Fucking whiners.

Go deliver 2 or 3 pizzas a month and that will pay for your radio.

Fuck off troll.

[MayrMeninoCrash]

Fucking whiners.

Go deliver 2 or 3 pizzas a month and that will pay for your radio.

Uncle Mel's stock price is dropping....go work 3 more jobs and subscribe to his shitty service or he might miss his next mansion mortgage payment.

[okterrificsk2]

Fucking whiners.

Go deliver 2 or 3 pizzas a month and that will pay for your radio.

Good job not reading any posts in this thread you simp. But thanks for adding to the discussion with your groundbreaking well thought out points of view.

[Death Metal Moe]

Good job not reading any posts in this thread you simp. But thanks for adding to the discussion with your groundbreaking well thought out points of view.

What else did you expect from a troll?

[Beeman99]

It's only money

[Death Metal Moe]

It's only money

Yea, which I don't have enough of sometimes and which I don't feel I get enough back in exchange for from Sirius/XM.

[Beeman99]

Still, despite the fact that Sirius XM have been absorbing the royalty fees, effectively since 2007, the decision was made to pass along the fees to subscribers starting in July. The reason for this timing has to do with one thing and one thing only: the Federal Communications Commission.

The FCC, in its decision to allow Sirius and XM to merge, authorized the combined company to begin passing along the music royalty fees beginning on July 29, 2009 - beforehand, the satcaster was required to absorb the fees.

The royalty fee is, in essence, a government-required fee (some would call it a "tax") much like the line items you would see on your electric bill. Of course - much like the electric companies - no one is forcing Sirius XM to pass along the fee to consumers, they're just allowing it.

Regardless of how you label it, or who you point the finger at, subscribers will need to pay more.

See, it's the FCC's fault

[Aaron Burrito]

See, it's the FCC's fault

Not really. The royalty fees should only be .84 cents. Sirius is using the royalty fees as an excuse to raise the rates.

[jackjack]

The royalty fee is, in essence, a government-required fee (some would call it a "tax") much like the line items you would see on your electric bill.

Since when is the RIAA a government entity?

[patroldawg]

Sirius is Howard and Mel. And they can't wait until contracts are up, or a contract dispute arises, so they have an excuse to unload the boys. fuck Sirius. That's what your goddamn money is paying for--Howard. like others said, support the boys through audible. Sirius is paying O&A pennies on Howard's dollar. Ope subtly whines about it time to time if you listen closely.

fortunately for Sirius my wife likes her radio, otherwise I'd throw the goddamn thing in the trash and cancel. Sirius music diversity sucks (same fucking songs all day), and the talk radio is so diluted with commercials it drives me insane I find myself mashing buttons desperately trying to find something new or not a commercial. The company of Sirius is complete SHIT

[ASSMAN]

I understand the hate for sir/xm but I have been happy with my service. I hope O&A and R&F are on there for years to come. Too bad they do not support the show more though. They prob will not bring stern back so he would be done in 18 months. Otherwise the only thing that pissed me off was the online shit they pulled.

[LilJimmyRbinson]

So if I call and sign up for a year at a time I won't get charged this extra fee?

[Aaron Burrito]

So if I call and sign up for a year at a time I won't get charged this extra fee?

Only if you sign up before the dead line.

[ruckstande]

Yay it's official!

http://www.fmqb.com/article.asp?id=1372602

It's Official: Sirius XM Passing Royalty Fees On To Subscribers
June 16, 2009

Earlier this month, it was reported that Sirius XM Radio would be adding new fees to its subscription prices, as a way to pass along increases in satellite radio royalty fees to the consumer. Now the satcaster has confirmed this news, in an letter to its subscribers.

The letter, signed by Sirius XM Chief Service Officer Joe Zarella, reads as follows:

"Thank you for being an XM subscriber. We are dedicated to providing our subscribers with the best programming and listener experience available on radio today. As part of this commitment, we have an important update regarding your XM subscription.

Music royalty rights were established by the U.S. Congress as part of the Copyright Act. This Act requires payment of copyright music royalties to recording artists, musicians and recording companies who hold copyrights in sound recordings.

These royalties have recently increased dramatically, principally as a result of a decision made by the Copyright Royalty Board, which is designated by the Library of Congress to set royalty rates for sound recordings. Beginning on July 29, 2009, a 'U.S. Music Royalty Fee' of $1.98/month* for primary subscriptions and $.97/month* for multi-receiver subscriptions will be effective upon your next renewal. This fee will be used directly to offset increased payments from XM to the recording industry.

Unfortunately, we cannot control the Copyright Royalty Board's rate increase, but we can offer you ways to save on your subscription. The longer your subscription, the more you save!"

As a reaction to the additional fees, Sirius XM is offering a free month for subscribers who sign up for one year, with five free months for a two year deal and nine free months for a three year subscription.

Orbitcast reported earlier this month that Sirius XM "can no longer absorb these increased costs" in performance royalties. In 2007, the Copyright Royalty Board instituted increased performance royalty rates for satellite radio, which have gone up every year and will continue to increase into 2012. The rate increased from six percent of gross revenue in '07 and '08 to 6.5 percent this year. It will reach seven percent in 2010, 7.5 percent in 2011 and eight percent in 2012.

As part of the Sirius and XM merger, the FCC allowed the combined satcaster to pass along the royalty fees, effective July 29, 2009, whereas the company was required to absorb the fees itself before this date.

[nataskaos]

Oh Yeah? Then I counter your attack with my
http://teapottantrums.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c1aee53ef010534c02e49970c-800wi

seems like a lot of fucking mana for a spell that gets played so often. I KNOW that blacks don't own 5 of any type of land. Maybe combined...

ok...enough of the nerd jokes.

I know that we're supposed to pay our radio fees and support the boys that way...and I do...but it's super tough to pay the bill when this type of this goes down. I might have to drop all of my subs minus the online subscription.

[Aaron Burrito]

Instead of charging up for the additional .5% they're charging us for the entire 6.5%. What happens next year when it goes up again?

[Death Metal Moe]

For what it's worth I sent them another "If you price yourself out of my life it's your own fault" E-mails tonight. Can't wait to get a script back.

[BraffStaff]

what is going on over at this company!!! If it wasn't for O&A I would trash it! I listen to the country stations (not that new shit) but over the last few months it's been very bad!! Most of the XM is on 202. For music or other talk it's Slackers Radio or some other web site. WHY WHY WHY!!!!!

[BraffStaff]

What is the deal with the end of this news report found at examiner.com
..Subscribers who want access to premium channels from both sources are subject to additional fees.
Howard Stern is expected to speak about the Sirius XM rate hike during next week’s show.

What the great GOD, Howard Stern is going to SPEAK about this next week! Everyone stop what your doing, get to the radio, listen. The great Howard Stern is about to speak to us.

http://www.examiner.com/x-11279-Howard-Stern-Examiner~y2009m6d19-Sirius-XM-hiking-subscription-prices-again-in-July

[TrybalRage]

I called to cancel my subscription today.

With my job that I started last year I don't get to listen like I used to (whole show twice down to 10 minute drive to work), then they took away my online, then they throw a rate increase at me.

Fuck off.

They offered to give me free XM online again (she hinted at a time limit but didn't specify) and I told her it was too late, that they shouldn't have taken it in the first place.

Then she told me that the rate increase didn't apply to me because I had a single radio, so I opened up the email that I received and read it to her, called her a liar, and told her to shut off my radio.

I'm going to miss the hell out of the boys, but I feel like I'm throwing money away at this point.

Edit: Didn't XM used to tell RIAA to fuck off when they were trying to extort them, while Sirius just rolled over for them?

[ruckstande]

Instead of charging up for the additional .5% they're charging us for the entire 6.5%. What happens next year when it goes up again?

They are hemorrhaging cash still so instead of paying this expense they are passing the savings on to you. You'd be crazy not to hand over Mel more money! This deal is win win but not for you or me.

[Death Metal Moe]

Thank you Sirius/XM. I am now going to have to talk to my Father, Mother and Grandmother and tell them that I won't be able to afford to pay their subs while on unemployment.

You did this Mel, congratulations.

[hoo cares]

What is the deal with the end of this news report found at examiner.com


What the great GOD, Howard Stern is going to SPEAK about this next week! Everyone stop what your doing, get to the radio, listen. The great Howard Stern is about to speak to us.

http://www.examiner.com/x-11279-Howard-Stern-Examiner~y2009m6d19-Sirius-XM-hiking-subscription-prices-again-in-July


I wonder if Howard will admit that his ridiculous salary is a huge part of why the increase is necessary. (I got 10 bucks on no. Anybody want some of this action?)

[Death Metal Moe]

I wonder if Howard will admit that his ridiculous salary is a huge part of why the increase is necessary. (I got 10 bucks on no. Anybody want some of this action?)

Problem? Don't you know sir that EVERY SINGLE PERSON who bought Sirius bought it for Howard? And EVERY SINGLE PERSON who has XM got the Best of Sirius the second it was offered so they could hear him. If anything, his salary is far too low. And next week he's going to cure AIDS.

[hoo cares]

Problem? Don't you know sir that EVERY SINGLE PERSON who bought Sirius bought it for Howard? And EVERY SINGLE PERSON who has XM got the Best of Sirius the second it was offered so they could hear him. If anything, his salary is far too low. And next week he's going to cure AIDS.

I stand corrrrrrrrrected. I can always count on Moe to show me the way.

[Fendbass22]

Chief Service Officer? Isnt a CEO of a service driven company the chief service officer? This is why they are failing as a company - everyone is getting paid way too much. Cut a 1/3 of your overhead by merging and still need to fuck the customer.

[d0uche_n0zzle]

There is no way in hell Melvin is worth thirty-two million bucks a year as CEO.

Look at the stock price when he took over and compare it to todays price. Its like a report card with a big fat F on it.

[mikek]

About $15 bucks a month if you have XM, lunch at a fastfood joint is about $7-8 bucks. Pack your lunch 2 times a month and support O and A, and get the show live. I have sirius and pay full price "best of XM" just to get 197, fuck NBA-NHL-oprah

(sigh... you don't get it)

It's not about brown-bagging a few lunches to compensate for Mel's latest bullshit "fee". He fucked to death an entire media empire (CBS/Eyemark), and is well on the way to doing the same exact thing to Sir/XM.

Seriously: Sir/XM finally realized JUST NOW they need to pay royalty fees? AFTER ALL THESE YEARS?? You've gotta be kidding.

Bullshit.

[kloraferm]

It's not about brown-bagging a few lunches to compensate for Mel's latest bullshit "fee". He fucked to death an entire media empire (CBS/Eyemark), and is well on the way to doing the same exact thing to Sir/XM.
Yup.

[MayrMeninoCrash]

Instead of charging up for the additional .5% they're charging us for the entire 15%. What happens next year when it goes up again?

Do the math....even 6.5% of $12.95 is only 84 cents. Someone is turning the "fee" into a moneymaking venture.

[Aaron Burrito]

Do the math....even 6.5% of $12.95 is only 84 cents. Someone is turning the "fee" into a moneymaking venture.

Yeah, I've already mentioned that. In the first post.

[Just Joe]

About $15 bucks a month if you have XM, lunch at a fastfood joint is about $7-8 bucks. Pack your lunch 2 times a month and support O and A, and get the show live. I have sirius and pay full price "best of XM" just to get 197, fuck NBA-NHL-oprah


What kind of stupid logic is this? Why do you assume the food I pack from home is somehow free or even cheaper than fast food? Get out of your parent's basement!

[Three Hole Puncher]

About $15 bucks a month if you have XM, lunch at a fastfood joint is about $7-8 bucks. Pack your lunch 2 times a month and support O and A, and get the show live. I have sirius and pay full price "best of XM" just to get 197, fuck NBA-NHL-oprah

Yep...

"It's only a coupla bucks more. Just shut up and pay the money."

It's this type of idiotic attitude which has gotten New Yorkers to the pont where they're paying 11 dollars to drive over a bridge... one way!

[Professor Zen]

What is the deal with the end of this news report found at examiner.com


What the great GOD, Howard Stern is going to SPEAK about this next week! Everyone stop what your doing, get to the radio, listen. The great Howard Stern is about to speak to us.

http://www.examiner.com/x-11279-Howard-Stern-Examiner~y2009m6d19-Sirius-XM-hiking-subscription-prices-again-in-July

Wow, did they mention when exactly so I can drop every fucking thing I'm doing to drink the piss out of his cock?

Who gives a fuck what that old asshole says unless it's "I'm dying"?

Fuck Howard. Fuck Mel. Fuck Sirius.

[kloraferm]

Wow, did they mention when exactly so I can drop every fucking thing I'm doing to drink the piss out of his cock?

Who gives a fuck what that old asshole says unless it's "I'm dying"?

Fuck Howard. Fuck Mel. Fuck Sirius.
Hey, no need to be shy about it :rolleyes:

[Professor Zen]

Hey, no need to be shy about it :rolleyes:

I'm not usually that reserved, but I'm getting sick and tired of paying more for being crapped on. They've gutted a once fine business, they treat the boys like unwanted step children and then we're all supposed to worship at Howard's feet because apparently he's got pictures of Mel having sex with animals in a petting zoo? No thanks.

If I want shitty radio, I've got plenty of it on FM already. The DJs are now talking right up to the vocals of the songs on First Wave and a few other channels. And if I hear about Madison's period one more time I'm going to have to flush my XM unit and fuck her mother.

I just don't get why you'd want to shoot a revenue maker in the foot just because your "star's ego" has a problem with anybody that might be in the same league as him. Isn't the bottom line money?

When Howard's contract is up, if he doesn't renew he's got nowhere to go unless he goes online and somehoohoo I don't think that's going to pay him the same amount of money that he's getting now, but with Sirius(XM) financially in the shitter are they going to be able to pony up another $500M for another 5 years?

[Death Metal Moe]

Unless he's willing to be called a liar again, Howie has already said he will only resign in the future for more, not less or equal. Team player our 4 day Howie is.

I just had the talk with my family letting them know I can't afford all these rate increases on unemployment and that I have actually shut off my own unit and kept their 3 on. So they're going to have to decide if they want to pay for it on their own. Grandma wasn't looking like she was very interested in using what little money she gets from SS and her phone company pension to pay for XM so that's probably one down. My mother and father are undecided yet.

[Stormrider666]

With the recent rate increase, I'm going to have to start checking out the other channels more so I can hopefully get my money's worth.

[PDX909]

Just my 2 cents worth.... I've been paying the same rate for my radios for the last what, 4 years? I would have expected a rate hike sometime during that period, and well, here it is at last and it's called a royalties charge.. whatever. I'm happy to pay this as long as that's all the increase there's going to be for a year or two.

I get every single pennies worth of value from my 4 subs, from O&A to the 40's channel. There's a lot about XM that I'd like to see different, but I'd rather support it and advocate change than just say 'fuck you' and bail. Looking at the terrestrial alternatives I'd rather stick a gun in my ear and listen to that.

[nortonsanus]

Just my 2 cents worth.... I've been paying the same rate for my radios for the last what, 4 years? I would have expected a rate hike sometime during that period, and well, here it is at last and it's called a royalties charge.. whatever. I'm happy to pay this as long as that's all the increase there's going to be for a year or two.

I get every single pennies worth of value from my 4 subs, from O&A to the 40's channel. There's a lot about XM that I'd like to see different, but I'd rather support it and advocate change than just say 'fuck you' and bail. Looking at the terrestrial alternatives I'd rather stick a gun in my ear and listen to that.This is the 2nd rate increase since march and i remember Mel saying once the merger went thru everything would be cheaper .

[PDX909]

This is the 2nd rate increase since march and i remember Mel saying once the merger went thru everything would be cheaper .

I said my rates haven't changed. I pay month to month. I'll concede that I'm getting a little less than I used to since the online feed went away but I'm not paying more.

[Death Metal Moe]

I said my rates haven't changed. I pay month to month. I'll concede that I'm getting a little less than I used to since the online feed went away but I'm not paying more.

Well I'm paying month to month and my rates HAVE gone up. They started charging me for online access which I use more than a receiver and they started charging more for extra subs on the same account. That directly effected me pretty hard because I had 3 extra subs on my account.

Now EVERYONE is getting an increase across the board. If you only have your 1 receiver I can see how you're not too pissed because this might be the 1st increase you're feeling.

But 2 increases after Mel SWORE there would be NONE coupled with other factors like the quality of the entire company taking a shit make me not want to pay them anymore.

[Hoagie]

I get all the Mel hate but part of this has to go to the fucking recording industry and their endless grab at every penny they can squeeze out of anyone anywhere. The copyright fees are out of fucking hand. It used to be that record companies would pay radio to play their records. They would hope cover bands would play songs from their bands in local bars. Now they want money at every turn. I used to be a big supporter of not stealing music, and I still don't do it myself, but I don't have a problem with those that do anymore. I have no sympathy for these recording companies anymore. I've been hoping that the new technology and ability to market on the internet for next to nothing would lead to more independent record labels being used.

[Aaron Burrito]

Just my 2 cents worth.... I've been paying the same rate for my radios for the last what, 4 years? I would have expected a rate hike sometime during that period, and well, here it is at last and it's called a royalties charge.. whatever. I'm happy to pay this as long as that's all the increase there's going to be for a year or two.

I get every single pennies worth of value from my 4 subs, from O&A to the 40's channel. There's a lot about XM that I'd like to see different, but I'd rather support it and advocate change than just say 'fuck you' and bail. Looking at the terrestrial alternatives I'd rather stick a gun in my ear and listen to that.

I said my rates haven't changed. I pay month to month. I'll concede that I'm getting a little less than I used to since the online feed went away but I'm not paying more.

Ok, you have to explain yourself. How have your rates not gone up when everyone's have? The family subs went up by $2 so how are you avoiding these increases?

[steve500]

There is no way in hell Melvin is worth thirty-two million bucks a year as CEO.

Look at the stock price when he took over and compare it to todays price. Its like a report card with a big fat F on it.

To be fair, that's only the after-expenses earnings from 320,000 subs... He's well worth it. Without his insight, we wouldn't have fine programing such as morning mash up :rolleyes:

This is the 2nd rate increase since march and i remember Mel saying once the merger went thru everything would be cheaper .


I present you with three ads, two run by pro-merger groups, and one by the NAB. Sadly, the NAB was right all along. http://www.thereheis.com/nucleus3.22/media/gallery/20070410-sat-radio-merger-ad-orbitcast.jpg

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/XM_SIRIUS_QuotesAd.gif

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_qQl_Xgmd5-0/RfAAHLZEzeI/AAAAAAAAAWA/2cFU1K_cGZ8/s400/xm-sirius-merger-ad.jpg

[jackjack]

Ok, you have to explain yourself. How have your rates not gone up when everyone's have? The family subs went up by $2 so how are you avoiding these increases?

That could happen if he had four primary subscriptions. A different account for each radio.
Wouldn't make much sense, though.

[PDX909]

That could happen if he had four primary subscriptions. A different account for each radio.
Wouldn't make much sense, though.

Well I do have the family plan, $12.99 and $6.99 each for the 3 extra units. I called and bitched about the online access thing and said i wasn't going to pay extra and they said that was fine, I just won't have access to the online feed.

I haven't actually checked my statement recently but apart from this pending royalty increase I'm pretty darn sure I'm paying the same as I was when I started about 4 years ago. I did cancel (not suspend) the subs when the boys were off air for that month but they resumed billing at the same rate. In fact I used the new car discount code and got three free months out of the fuckers.

[Aaron Burrito]

Well I do have the family plan, $12.99 and $6.99 each for the 3 extra units. I called and bitched about the online access thing and said i wasn't going to pay extra and they said that was fine, I just won't have access to the online feed.

I haven't actually checked my statement recently but apart from this pending royalty increase I'm pretty darn sure I'm paying the same as I was when I started about 4 years ago. I did cancel (not suspend) the subs when the boys were off air for that month but they resumed billing at the same rate. In fact I used the new car discount code and got three free months out of the fuckers.

Family subs are $8.99 now. Check your bill and see what your rate is.

[n8crwlr]

Cancelled my 2 subs, my Inno 1 took a shit. It was my primary radio, the price increase, and they already cancelld my MyFi, and now I have to pay for online service too. I am done with XM and tired of the shit. Put me on the list as done with XM. Anyone need a new Inno battery, never used, feel free to PM me. I purchased a battery since I thought the battery might have went and now I have no use for it since my Inno does not power up at all in either of my docks, or attaching to my power adapter.

[PDX909]

Family subs are $8.99 now. Check your bill and see what your rate is.


You're absolutely right..in my last bill it went up 2 bucks a unit and I didn't notice.. Thanks for making me aware of that. The way they worded the e-mail it seemed to me like it was for new subs only.

[Dacypher]

Goddamit...well, I guess this is what happens when the government allows two competing companies who were alone in their industry to merge. No competition = lets find the highest price we can charge them before they all cancel. And if only 15% cancel after a 20% price increase, it is still a profit. Jackasses.

I am still holding out for some other company to be crazy enough to launch satellites and compete. But I think I shouldn't be holding my breath considering the costs and initial ROI.

[3GROC]

internet radio is (for me) much better then satellite. Ill never subscribe again and the fact that it is a monopoly now only cemented that.

[Death Metal Moe]

Well I talked to my family, told them I am canceling their 3 subs. None of them want me to set up their radios to pay for it themselves, so XM is losing 3 subs due to this increase. I'm going to try to keep online listening for myself.

[LastDeadMouse]

I get all the Mel hate but part of this has to go to the fucking recording industry and their endless grab at every penny they can squeeze out of anyone anywhere.

This is just the excuse they're using to increase the price. In reality the amount that the RIAA is charging Sirius/XM to use their music comes out to less than 50 cents per radio. Somehow that translates to $1.99 on our bills, though.

[seller326]

Leave it to the scumbags at Sirius to figure a way around the FCC's no price increase ruling usindg a technicality

[seller326]

This is just the excuse they're using to increase the price. In reality the amount that the RIAA is charging Sirius/XM to use their music comes out to less than 50 cents per radio. Somehow that translates to $1.99 on our bills, though.

Why not just charge an extra 50 cents for every new radio

[seller326]

Well I talked to my family, told them I am canceling their 3 subs. None of them want me to set up their radios to pay for it themselves, so XM is losing 3 subs due to this increase. I'm going to try to keep online listening for myself.

We should all get portable units and keep it down to one sub. More money for radio makers, less for Sirius

[Death Metal Moe]

We should all get portable units and keep it down to one sub. More money for radio makers, less for Sirius

But if Sirius/XM fails, it won't matter that the technology companies survive. It just really pisses me off what they did to the company. This merger was supposed to give us MORE not LESS, control costs so they DIDN'T have to raise prices and help the company survive. Seems a year or two from folding based on this kind of shit.

[mjbanks]

I'm paid through September. Once that's up, I'm not renewing. My plan is to get the year subscription to Audible for $70. Much cheaper and gives me the same thing. Only part that sucks is being able to listen live or whenever I want to flip the channel in the car.

[distortion9]

I have two Roadies and have no idea what I'm paying per month....anyway I can cancel them both and get online service only, what would that cost?

[RolfNetherlands]

online service only, what would that cost?

$0,- if you sign up for 30 day free trials using the coupon code OPRAHSOUL. Or $13,-.

[Dacypher]

Honestly, I think that if Sirius/XM fold, O&A should screw looking for another station and go it alone with a modified "Live at the Compound". Set it up to be the new O&A show, and charge a mothly fee for access. They could get some advertising on board, too. Plus, all the money would be going in their pocket. It would not be a case of them getting a tiny percent of our subscription fee when a good portion of us only listen to them (I know it doesn't work exactly like that, but you know what I mean). Get Ron'n'Fez in there, too. I would pay to have access to it. They have the clout to do it, and they could do whatever the fuck they want without the lawyers wrecking it.

[Kustom FX]

I had 1 main and 3 subs, car, house, garage, & office. Fuck that. I now take the Roady into the garage, wife just goes without in the house, and screw my coworkers. The thing that lights my ass is that it took longer for me to cancel them, that it would to have burned every hair off my body with a magnifying glass!! Stupid rep kept saying, we can do this or we can do that, we are willing to offer you this or that. I finally got pissed and screamed at this stupid bitch " TEL MEL TO SHOVE IT IN HOO HOO's ASS AND SMOKE IT! 1 MORE FUCKING THING OTHER THAN YOUR CANCELED SIR AND YOU CAN SHOVE ALL MY RADIOS! GOT IT? I told her the merger & mel are killing sat radio, and that the new programing and babbling DJs are fucking horrible! I said I hope they fire you for not doing your job, and berating a customer, and that mel gets ass cancer. But I was never bitter or overly harsh, well atleast I dont think so.

[XMScott]

Today, the "U.S. Music Royalty Fee" for Sirius XM Radio goes into effect. We first heard about this price increase nearly two months ago when an internal document was leaked out to the public.

The company says the increase in subscription rates is "principally as a result of a decision made by the Copyright Royalty Board." The Copyright Royalty Board issued their decision to increase the royalty rates for satellite radio in late 2007.
Starting today, a "U.S. Music Royalty Fee" of $1.98/month for most "primary" subscriptions (which includes the "Sirius Everything" and "XM Everything" packages - you don't pay extra for the "Best of" packages) and $.97/month for multi-receiver subscriptions will be effective upon your next renewal.

As of today, new and renewing subscriptions that include music will be subject to the U.S. Music Royalty Fee.

Sirius XM says that this fee will be used "directly to offset increased payments" to the recording industry.

You can read the FAQ about the subscription price increase here (http://www.sirius.com/usmusicroyalty).

So here's a question: due to this new fee, have you decided to cancel or not renew your Sirius or XM subscriptions? Or have you decided to stick it out regardless?

http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/us-music-royalty-fee-sirius-xm-price-increase-effective-today.html#more

I was toying with idea of not resubscribing in October. This just seals the deal. The music channels have taken a major down hill plunge for me. I can get my fix of O&A/R&A elsewhere. Sucks.

[Aaron Burrito]

Seriously?

http://www.wackbag.com/showthread.php?t=108063

[Timmah]

$0,- if you sign up for 30 day free trials using the coupon code OPRAHSOUL. Or $13,-.


OPRAHSOUL doesn't work anymore, sir....anyone know any new promo codes?

[SaintDude]

About to say fuck it also. Trying to be a trooper just for the boys but for every dick in the ass they give the show and their customers Mel and HooHoo gets a raise. Fuck that and fuck them.

How exactly are they getting around the no rate increase that they were supposed to adhere to?

[XMScott]

Did you read the article i posted or just the original false post speculation?

[SlimeyGoatFuckr]

I had four subs and now due to this, have cut out two of them. My last bill was $42 just for four subs and one internet sub. Two much to be paying these days. With the new rates, I would be paying nearly $50.

[BIV]

About to say fuck it also. Trying to be a trooper just for the boys but for every dick in the ass they give the show and their customers Mel and HooHoo gets a raise. Fuck that and fuck them.

How exactly are they getting around the no rate increase that they were supposed to adhere to?

I'd like to be Mr. Outrage, but it's not exactly the Doggies fault they are getting saddled with these huge royalty payments. It's the same fees the boys were "ha haing" about with regular radio. Blame the music industry for being cocksuckers.

[Aaron Burrito]

I'd like to be Mr. Outrage, but it's not exactly the Doggies fault they are getting saddled with these huge royalty payments. It's the same fees the boys were "ha haing" about with regular radio. Blame the music industry for being cocksuckers.

But instead of us paying the extra .5% we now have to pay the entire fee. They used this as a way to push the whole fee onto the subscribers and as a way to lower their costs. Or did I read it wrong?

[seller326]

SiriusXM should offer a talk only plan with no music stations for those who don't want to pay the royalty fee. It should include the best of package at no extra cost

[jackjack]

But instead of us paying the extra .5% we now have to pay the entire fee. They used this as a way to push the whole fee onto the subscribers and as a way to lower their costs. Or did I read it wrong?

I'm even more confused, I'm sure I read the royalty fee is 6.5% of total revenue, so that would be $.84 for a $12.95 subscription. I don't know how they got that up to two dollars.

[Aaron Burrito]

SiriusXM should offer a talk only plan with no music stations for those who don't want to pay the royalty fee. It should include the best of package at no extra cost

They do but no OnA.

[SaintDude]

I'm even more confused, I'm sure I read the royalty fee is 6.5% of total revenue, so that would be $.84 for a $12.95 subscription. I don't know how they got that up to two dollars.

Surcharges and handling fees?

[Arythmetics]

Thank jebus I got a lifetime sub in February. $2.99 for XMRO and $1.98 Music Royalty; that's $5/month increase since March.

XM isn't getting another penny from me but I'll be enjoying XM long after my XMP3 is dead since I can now login with my iPhone/iPod.


This is nothing more than a Howard Tax. If they just stop promoting that loser they'd saved enough money to not have to collect this. Oh, did anybody hear that all the execs are getting raises?

[Ramone69]

http://www.xmfan.com/viewtopic.php?t=103093&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

So our primary account will be increased by $2 and now the extra radios are $3 more once your current sub runs out. (remember that the secondary accounts went from $6.99 to $8.99)

Sirius is using the royalty fees as an excuse to raise our rates.

$3 (or $2.95) extra for online streaming. that makes it almost $18 a month.

Soon I will be going to download the Torrents only and drop Sirius.

[okie]

Just got an email sirius/xm is raising rates again! So much for his promise to senate and fcc?

[transit grinder]

How many times does that make that the rates have risen this year alone?

[RPI]

Audible baby. Audible. There's nothing better than on demand O & A. No commercials and I'm still catching up on shows that I missed while the boys are on vacay. Nice. :action-sm

[UnrulyX]

How many times does that make that the rates have risen this year alone?

Assholes. I think we need to organize and let them no don't screw with your customers.

[okie]

Assholes. I think we need to organize and let them no don't screw with your customers.

Ya def even if everyone just cancels additional radio. We can get by the purse strings huddla huddla

[UnrulyX]

Letter writing campaign?

Mel Karmazin
c/o Sirius Satellite Radio Inc
1221 Avenue of the Americas
36th Floor
New York, NY USA 10020

[okie]

Letter writing campaign?

Mel Karmazin
c/o Sirius Satellite Radio Inc
1221 Avenue of the Americas
36th Floor
New York, NY USA 10020

We need his email I think cock pics are in order?

[Chimp Pembry]

Yeah, that'll help the boys, mail cock pics to their boss.

[AngryJack]

There are a few things to do here.

First, call and complain. Help Desks cost money. Sirius/XM probably outsources their call center and in that case you will pay by the minute or by the call. Either way, the average cost of calls is usually around $45 per incident (less for just complaints, but you get the idea). Calling often when you're upset costs the company money.

The second thing to do is just what okie suggests. Cancel a radio. I called to cancel one of mine and they gave me 6 months for free. My six month will be up soon and I'll cancel then. Sirius/XM, just like every other corporation, figures we're all just a bunch of retards and will go towards the shiny object. So, they dangle a few feee months in front of us, and then figure we'll forget we're mad once they start charging again. We just need to remember to cancel when the freebies are over.

Lastly, at least for my 2 cents, get audible if you want to hear the show. I'm also an audible subscriber and agree wholeheartedly with RPI. For less than what I pay to keep my radios running, I'm getting some great shows, and discounts on books and other uadio entertainment.

It's a shame that a once fantastic product, XM, is now so mediocre. I don't know who said it, but there was another thread lamenting XM and the posts said something to the effect of, "Congratulations Mel, you invented FM radio." I couldn't have said it better (hence my quotation). I loved XM and hate the merged product. I lost a lot of good stations, and now have unlistenable chatter on what were innovative channels.

[LastDeadMouse]

Got a copy of this email? I already canceled and went the audible route after the increase to $15 per radio.

[okie]

Got a copy of this email? I already canceled and went the audible route after the increase to $15 per radio.

Thank you for being an XM subscriber. We are dedicated to providing our subscribers with the best programming and listener experience available on radio today. As part of this commitment, we have an important update regarding your XM subscription.Music royalty rights were established by the U.S. Congress as part of the Copyright Act. This Act requires payment of copyright music royalties to recording artists, musicians and recording companies who hold copyrights in sound recordings.These royalties have recently increased dramatically, principally as a result of a decision made by the Copyright Royalty Board, which is designated by the Library of Congress to set royalty rates for sound recordings. As of July 29, 2009, a “U.S. Music Royalty Fee” of $1.98/month* for primary subscriptions and $.97/month* for multi-receiver subscriptions will be effective upon your next renewal. This fee will be used directly to offset increased payments from XM to the recording industry.Unfortunately, we cannot control the Copyright Royalty Board's rate increase, but we can offer you ways to save on your subscription. The longer your subscription, the more you save!

[UCJOE]

Thank you for being an XM subscriber. We are dedicated to providing our subscribers with the best programming and listener experience available on radio today. As part of this commitment, we have an important update regarding your XM subscription.Music royalty rights were established by the U.S. Congress as part of the Copyright Act. This Act requires payment of copyright music royalties to recording artists, musicians and recording companies who hold copyrights in sound recordings.These royalties have recently increased dramatically, principally as a result of a decision made by the Copyright Royalty Board, which is designated by the Library of Congress to set royalty rates for sound recordings. As of July 29, 2009, a “U.S. Music Royalty Fee” of $1.98/month* for primary subscriptions and $.97/month* for multi-receiver subscriptions will be effective upon your next renewal. This fee will be used directly to offset increased payments from XM to the recording industry.Unfortunately, we cannot control the Copyright Royalty Board's rate increase, but we can offer you ways to save on your subscription. The longer your subscription, the more you save!


the NEW rate increase you ran and posted about is the music royalty one from last month discussed to death already?

::hammer:

[LastDeadMouse]

Thank you for being an XM subscriber. We are dedicated to providing our subscribers with the best programming and listener experience available on radio today. As part of this commitment, we have an important update regarding your XM subscription.Music royalty rights were established by the U.S. Congress as part of the Copyright Act. This Act requires payment of copyright music royalties to recording artists, musicians and recording companies who hold copyrights in sound recordings.These royalties have recently increased dramatically, principally as a result of a decision made by the Copyright Royalty Board, which is designated by the Library of Congress to set royalty rates for sound recordings. As of July 29, 2009, a “U.S. Music Royalty Fee” of $1.98/month* for primary subscriptions and $.97/month* for multi-receiver subscriptions will be effective upon your next renewal. This fee will be used directly to offset increased payments from XM to the recording industry.Unfortunately, we cannot control the Copyright Royalty Board's rate increase, but we can offer you ways to save on your subscription. The longer your subscription, the more you save!

Oh, ok. This isn't new, not to say that it doesn't suck. I thought it was something even more beyond this. The scam is that their cost per radio for this fee is actually less than $0.25, yet they're charging almost $2 per radio. Complete fucking crooks. Get an ipod and an audible sub, you'll feel better.

[Three Hole Puncher]

Let your wallet do the talking. Mel doesn't give two shits about complaints... as long as you're forking over the gelt he's a happy Hebe. People have been bitching about the direction Mel has taken the company for over two years now, and it just keeps getting worse and worse as the price goes up and up. HE'S NOT FUCKING LISTENING.

He can here the clink of two nickles rubbing together from a thousand miles away though.

Hit him where it counts.

[okie]

Cool cool first I heard of it def sucks and probably good to bring it around again in a way to maybe get folks to do somethin about it?

[habeasrob]

complaints to the company and or mel will be ignored. If you want to really do something, complain to your congressman. Point out that this asshole lied to the fcc to get this merger done.

[Falldog]

The scam is that their cost per radio for this fee is actually less than $0.25, yet they're charging almost $2 per radio. Complete fucking crooks. Get an ipod and an audible sub, you'll feel better.

It this something a class action lawsuit can take care of?

[okie]

just canceled my second radio. of course they offered a prepay discount told them that wouldnt make my point would it? fuck mel

[nortonsanus]

Check Pm's guys .

[vegasbob]

Fuck this shit! 3 radios is $37.84 per month. Bye Bye 1 sub to cut cost.

[Douche McGee]

If radio had any balls, they would stop playing bands on labels and just play unsigned bands and I'm sure most of them would be more than happy to get so much free exposure. The record companies would see that radio still plays a part in exposing music to people, and I'm sure they could work out a deal. But they wouldn't do that. It's too risky. Record companies will soon be extinct and with fewer lawyers, I'm sure the cost could go down, but the rates won't. So, everything I just said is pointless.

[Whatwhy]

If radio had any balls, they would stop playing bands on labels and just play unsigned bands and I'm sure most of them would be more than happy to get so much free exposure. The record companies would see that radio still plays a part in exposing music to people, and I'm sure they could work out a deal. But they wouldn't do that. It's too risky. Record companies will soon be extinct and with fewer lawyers, I'm sure the cost could go down, but the rates won't. So, everything I just said is pointless.

Yeah, that's about the only thing I agree with. Who the fuck buys sat. radio to listen to indy bands? Lots of people do enjoy them even if they own IPods, although that's not the biggest pull. So you drop springsteen, bob dylan, eminem, jamie foxx, etc. who you've been promoting this entire time? No. It might have been a mistake promoting them so heavily instead of original content you can only get on the radio (which is only half true thanks to audible) but dropping "corporate" music would be an atrocious decision, and that's why they don't have the "balls" to make it.

[JohnnyRed]

Flush and Fuck

I have lingered long enough.

The show is not what it once was and it is plainly obvious.

No radio wars, everyone is holding hands and singing kyumba my lord. They have knealt and kissed the almighty Howie ass and there is no doubt they have been told AGAIN they are not allowed to bash him and like good little soldiers they are toting the company line.

The last five months in nutshell, Anthony likes guns and fucking young interns, some clown that works at Sirrus looks like little Nicky (lets not completly beat that fucking bit to death) and some idiot Bobo likes showing off his hard on in the studio.

I have been to the xm studio a bunch of times. met the boys, and there was a time I never missed a show (I have a radioshark record the program on my pc and have almost the last three years worth of shows backed up on my hard drive), now.. it took me a week to listen to the last show they did on friday before they left for vacation.

This website and their fanbase is a mere shell of what it was a few years ago and you can bash me, tell me I suck whatever, blame it on FM radio fucking up their career but the show just is not what it was and there is no fucking way I am giving ol fucko Mel more money for a show I am barely listening to now.

I will now throw out an inappropriately used "punching out"

Your mom's box

[d0uche_n0zzle]

I dumped two out of my three subs this week. And said 202 was the only reason for holding one sub.

The music blows with excessive repetition, narrow playlists, and single artist channels take zero creativity.

[okterrificsk2]

Flush and Fuck

I have lingered long enough.

The show is not what it once was and it is plainly obvious.

No radio wars, everyone is holding hands and singing kyumba my lord. They have knealt and kissed the almighty Howie ass and there is no doubt they have been told AGAIN they are not allowed to bash him and like good little soldiers they are toting the company line.

The last five months in nutshell, Anthony likes guns and fucking young interns, some clown that works at Sirrus looks like little Nicky (lets not completly beat that fucking bit to death) and some idiot Bobo likes showing off his hard on in the studio.

I have been to the xm studio a bunch of times. met the boys, and there was a time I never missed a show (I have a radioshark record the program on my pc and have almost the last three years worth of shows backed up on my hard drive), now.. it took me a week to listen to the last show they did on friday before they left for vacation.

This website and their fanbase is a mere shell of what it was a few years ago and you can bash me, tell me I suck whatever, blame it on FM radio fucking up their career but the show just is not what it was and there is no fucking way I am giving ol fucko Mel more money for a show I am barely listening to now.

I will now throw out an inappropriately used "punching out"

Your mom's box

Come on fella tell us how you really feel. Am i right guys?:action-sm

[Whatwhy]

Flush and Fuck

I have lingered long enough.

The show is not what it once was and it is plainly obvious.

No radio wars, everyone is holding hands and singing kyumba my lord. They have knealt and kissed the almighty Howie ass and there is no doubt they have been told AGAIN they are not allowed to bash him and like good little soldiers they are toting the company line.

The last five months in nutshell, Anthony likes guns and fucking young interns, some clown that works at Sirrus looks like little Nicky (lets not completly beat that fucking bit to death) and some idiot Bobo likes showing off his hard on in the studio.

I have been to the xm studio a bunch of times. met the boys, and there was a time I never missed a show (I have a radioshark record the program on my pc and have almost the last three years worth of shows backed up on my hard drive), now.. it took me a week to listen to the last show they did on friday before they left for vacation.

This website and their fanbase is a mere shell of what it was a few years ago and you can bash me, tell me I suck whatever, blame it on FM radio fucking up their career but the show just is not what it was and there is no fucking way I am giving ol fucko Mel more money for a show I am barely listening to now.

I will now throw out an inappropriately used "punching out"

Your mom's box

I'm glad they're not fucking around with Howard Stern. I like listening to the show and they like having fucking jobs so I suppose it's win/win that they're "good little soldiers", as if you wouldn't let shit slide to save your fucking livelihood. Say what you will about enjoying the show, but don't play it off like they've "sold out, MAN!". You need CELEB DRAMA to enjoy the show? Go watch reality TV, douchebag.

[Aaron Burrito]

I'm glad they're not fucking around with Howard Stern. I like listening to the show and they like having fucking jobs so I suppose it's win/win that they're "good little soldiers", as if you wouldn't let shit slide to save your fucking livelihood. Say what you will about enjoying the show, but don't play it off like they've "sold out, MAN!". You need CELEB DRAMA to enjoy the show? Go watch reality TV, douchebag.

Maybe it's not "selling out" but the integrity of the show has definitely been compromised. ie. language restrictions and inability to do "bits".


Oh and drop the attitude, it's completely unnecessary. The man is allowed to have his opinion.

[patty's wig]

Flush and Fuck

I have lingered long enough.

The show is not what it once was and it is plainly obvious.

No radio wars, everyone is holding hands and singing kyumba my lord. They have knealt and kissed the almighty Howie ass and there is no doubt they have been told AGAIN they are not allowed to bash him and like good little soldiers they are toting the company line.

The last five months in nutshell, Anthony likes guns and fucking young interns, some clown that works at Sirrus looks like little Nicky (lets not completly beat that fucking bit to death) and some idiot Bobo likes showing off his hard on in the studio.

I have been to the xm studio a bunch of times. met the boys, and there was a time I never missed a show (I have a radioshark record the program on my pc and have almost the last three years worth of shows backed up on my hard drive), now.. it took me a week to listen to the last show they did on friday before they left for vacation.

This website and their fanbase is a mere shell of what it was a few years ago and you can bash me, tell me I suck whatever, blame it on FM radio fucking up their career but the show just is not what it was and there is no fucking way I am giving ol fucko Mel more money for a show I am barely listening to now.

I will now throw out an inappropriately used "punching out"

Your mom's box


Dude, that was perfect. Couldn't have said it better.

[ILuvDogShit]

Flush and Fuck

I have lingered long enough.

The show is not what it once was and it is plainly obvious.

No radio wars, everyone is holding hands and singing kyumba my lord. They have knealt and kissed the almighty Howie ass and there is no doubt they have been told AGAIN they are not allowed to bash him and like good little soldiers they are toting the company line.

The last five months in nutshell, Anthony likes guns and fucking young interns, some clown that works at Sirrus looks like little Nicky (lets not completly beat that fucking bit to death) and some idiot Bobo likes showing off his hard on in the studio.

I have been to the xm studio a bunch of times. met the boys, and there was a time I never missed a show (I have a radioshark record the program on my pc and have almost the last three years worth of shows backed up on my hard drive), now.. it took me a week to listen to the last show they did on friday before they left for vacation.

This website and their fanbase is a mere shell of what it was a few years ago and you can bash me, tell me I suck whatever, blame it on FM radio fucking up their career but the show just is not what it was and there is no fucking way I am giving ol fucko Mel more money for a show I am barely listening to now.

I will now throw out an inappropriately used "punching out"

Your mom's box


I couldn't agree more as well. The show is on a downward spiral and is likely to self destruct anyday now. I personally think they are riding out there contracts at which each will go there seperate way and not look back.

I wish they would just end things in a blaze of glory rather then fizzle out as they are doing.

[Whatwhy]

Maybe it's not "selling out" but the integrity of the show has definitely been compromised. ie. language restrictions and inability to do "bits".


Oh and drop the attitude, it's completely unnecessary. The man is allowed to have his opinion.

Yet another thread that gets turned down the road of "why the show sucks now", and I'm the one who has the attitude. I guess I thought I was at a fan site. Nothing wrong with having an opinion, I'd just expect that if I went to another message board and bashed whatever that board claimed to be supporting I'd get reemed out too.

People here have shit so fucking backwards it's ridiculous.

[charlie dick]

People here have shit so fucking backwards it's ridiculous.
Not all people.

Just the ones who post.

[Aaron Burrito]

People here have shit so fucking backwards it's ridiculous.

There's a simple solution to that.:action-sm

[Guilty Spark]

I don't even know why I have XM at this point. I have an ipod, and I listen to the boys on torrents. what the hell is wrong with me?

[Ballbuster1]

You people all crack me the fuck up.

Hey Johnny Red, back on 6/22/08 you said:
Who am I to bitch anyway, I listen to the show from a 'replay' site since XM suspended them and I cancelled my sub so I guess I should fuck and flush or what the fuck ever.

And yet now over a year later you're saying:
there is no fucking way I am giving ol fucko Mel more money for a show I am barely listening to now.

If you really stopped paying XM what do you care what Mel charges?

If you all hate the show, why are you still listening? Just turn it off
and it'll fade away. No need to keep whining about it.

[JoeyDVDZ]

Yet another thread that gets turned down the road of "why the show sucks now", and I'm the one who has the attitude. I guess I thought I was at a fan site. Nothing wrong with having an opinion, I'd just expect that if I went to another message board and bashed whatever that board claimed to be supporting I'd get reemed out too.

People here have shit so fucking backwards it's ridiculous.
I think the "attitude" comment was more for you calling him a douchebag, rather than calling out his opinion. (Although, we really do like to allow people to express their opinions here, as long as respect for our fellow members is also observed.)

[Aaron Burrito]

I think the "attitude" comment was more for you calling him a douchebag, rather than calling out his opinion. (Although, we really do like to allow people to express their opinions here, as long as respect for our fellow members is also observed.)

It was for both, there's no reason for name calling and member bashing just because you don't agree with someone's opinion.

[Whatwhy]

You people all crack me the fuck up.

If you all hate the show, why are you still listening? Just turn it off
and it'll fade away. No need to keep whining about it.

This. Even better when they suggest the people who enjoy the show should be the ones to leave.

I think the "attitude" comment was more for you calling him a douchebag, rather than calling out his opinion. (Although, we really do like to allow people to express their opinions here, as long as respect for our fellow members is also observed.)

Yeah that's fair, but I mean, you'd assume that since they're all bailing on the show they might become former members. Instead they stick around and bash the show, make comments about how they're sick of it, etc. etc., and day in day out post just so they can derail threads.

If you check out most of the peoples posts I really rag on, they tend to be "fans" whose posts turn threads into show bashing. Opinions don't make you a douche, bashing the show on a site for fans of the show does, in my opinion.

But fair enough, sometimes my posts come off harsher than I want them to, but I don't have an edit feature, but that wasn't the case here.

Still, at the end of the day a thread about rate hikes turned into why Opie and Anthony "suck now", so there it is.

[Aaron Burrito]

This. Even better when they suggest the people who enjoy the show should be the ones to leave.



Yeah that's fair, but I mean, you'd assume that since they're all bailing on the show they might become former members. Instead they stick around and bash the show, make comments about how they're sick of it, etc. etc., and day in day out post just so they can derail threads.

If you check out most of the peoples posts I really rag on, they tend to be "fans" whose posts turn threads into show bashing. Opinions don't make you a douche, bashing the show on a site for fans of the show does, in my opinion.

But fair enough, sometimes my posts come off harsher than I want them to, but I don't have an edit feature, but that wasn't the case here.

Still, at the end of the day a thread about rate hikes turned into why Opie and Anthony "suck now", so there it is.

So now you're the defender of all things OnA and decide who's a fan and who isn't? How mighty noble of you.

The people you're complaining about barely post here.

[Whatwhy]

So now you're the defender of all things OnA and decide who's a fan and who isn't? How mighty noble of you.

The people you're complaining about barely post here.

He said he wasn't listening anymore, specifically because he didn't like the show, and then people came in and quoted and agreed. I'm not fucking reading between the lines, just reading the lines. I'm not defending everything they do, I'm defending the show as a whole, and it's sad that anyone should do that on a fucking fan site.

There are a large amount of people here who want this bullshit to stop, as they've state, one of which is Opie himself. I find it hilarious that in defending the show against someone who clearly wants nothing to do with it, I'm the one who has to fend off attacks. Fee Hikes>>>O&A suck>>>You suck for defending them. Why wouldn't a thread on the biggest and best O&A fan site have such a progression. :rolleyes:

[Aaron Burrito]

He said he wasn't listening anymore, specifically because he didn't like the show, and then people came in and quoted and agreed. I'm not fucking reading between the lines, just reading the lines. I'm not defending everything they do, I'm defending the show as a whole, and it's sad that anyone should do that on a fucking fan site.

There are a large amount of people here who want this bullshit to stop, as they've state, one of which is Opie himself. I find it hilarious that in defending the show against someone who clearly wants nothing to do with it, I'm the one who has to fend off attacks. Fee Hikes>>>O&A suck>>>You suck for defending them. Why wouldn't a thread on the biggest and best O&A fan site have such a progression. :rolleyes:

First of all speak for yourself not others. Secondly if you want it to stop ignore them. Giving their comments attention only adds to the problem and creates drama. Thirdly, Opie has been saying that about the "haters" for as long as I can remember. Fourthly, when you get to be as popular as OnA there will always be people who try to tear you down, ignore them and continue to do what you do.

[Whatwhy]

First of all speak for yourself not others.

Funny, I don't remember saying I was the defender of all things O&A, oh wait...

Secondly if you want it to stop ignore them. Giving their comments attention only adds to the problem and creates drama.

Ready when you are. :rolleyes:

Fourthly, when you get to be as popular as OnA there will always be people who try to tear you down, ignore them and continue to do what you do.

Like people who bitch about the show at their fan site instead of NOT listening to the show and NOT posting at a site for fans? Oh wait, you didn't call them out. And yeah, I don't care about haters, it's the ones who go around derailing threads HERE and talking about how they were fans but no longer that piss me off. So bitching about the show doesn't fall under "just ignore it", I don't understand. Why don't they get called out.

To say that the O&A Bashing here isn't rampant and is somehow justified is just flawed from the beginning. Fan Site = fuck off if you don't like it. You can look back at how many recent threads and see haters just packing in, so I'll continue to call them out. And I'm sure you'll continue to call me out, despite the "tips" you've given out and yet simultaneously ignore.

This isn't about criticism, it's about straight up hating the show, there is a difference.

[Ballbuster1]

This thread officially sucks.