Email from XM on Howard Bashing O&A

[BraffStaff]

I emailed XM/Sirus a few weeks back after hearing that ho-ho Howard was bashing them. I acted like I was a Howard fan and wanted to get the XM package until I heard him bash them. I wrote asking, why should I get the package for O&A if it's no good!

Dear Mr. Tedd,

Thank you for contacting XM.

We have received your query and we do understand your concern in this matter. Please note that everyone has a different opinion about the monetary value they place on a particular item or service. If you have not tried the service for yourself you would have let a person's opinion made you miss out on a good opportunity.

We hope you will give it a try and make you own decision about our service. The opinions of on-air talents such as Mr. Stern do not always reflect the opinions of XM Sirius , it's share holders, or other on-air talents. As a Sirius members we will remind you that you can still listen to Howard 100 and 101 even with the XM package. That means you still get the Howard Wrap Up Show, Howard 100 News, The Best of the Week, Bubba the Love Sponge, The Scott Ferrall Show, Lisa Lampanelli, Chuck Zito's View and the Greg Fitzsimmons Show! It's the great entertainment you’ve come to expect from The King of All Media.

If we can be of further assistance, please feel free to send an additional email or you may contact a Listener Care Representative directly at 1-800-XM RADIO (800-967-2346). Our Listener Care Center's hours of operation are as follows:
Monday to Saturday: 8AM - 11PM ET
Sunday: 8AM - 8PM ET

Thank you



Maybe it's just me but looks like they would be trying to sell the XM package more. Maybe list all the shows it comes with. Why would they just tell me about shows I already get! This email makes it sound like "why do you need XM when you get all this from the greatest on air talent ever".

[lick]

Exactly why I went from 4 subs to 1. Had 2 Sirius (cars) and 2 Innos. Eventually they will purge all XM talent and I will switch to my touch and save 12.95

[Fendbass22]

I love how it's Mr. Stern.

[Awful Me]

I love how it's Mr. Stern.



Not a howard fan, but when you make 100 Million a year, you deserve to be called Mr.

[Ballbuster1]

Exactly why I went from 4 subs to 1. Had 2 Sirius (cars) and 2 Innos.
And why I went from 5 Myfi's to 1. Mel thinks Sirius' plan
was the better one and will continue to ram it down XM
subscriber's throats. Fuck him, fuck his djs and fuck MR Stern.

[jules]

And why I went from 5 Myfi's to 1. Mel thinks Sirius' plan
was the better one and will continue to ram it down XM
subscriber's throats. Fuck him, fuck his djs and fuck MR Stern.

x2:clap::clap::clap:

[krustykola]

Is there anyone in the English speaking world that does not know that you can get Stern on Sirius? And if there were, how likely would those people be subscribers to the former rival of Sirius, XM?

Lets look back when I first got XM I knew about Stern, had heard the names Opie and Anthony somewhere and never heard of Ron and Fez, and I bought XM. Now four years later I need to be constantly bombarded with on air ads and website ads and email ads letting me know that this Stern guy that I have known about for years (the fucking guy made a movie!) is available for my listening pleasure! WTF
How about giving 202 O and A, Ron and Fez a tenth, a single percent of the attention that Howard gets. We get it, you paid WAY too much for him but why spend WAY too much promoting a guy everybody already knows about and already has their opinion made. Hey why not let everyone know about sliced bread while you are at it.
Dopes!

[DonTheTrucker]

How about letting Bob Eatman handle this?

[NoSurviivors]

Lisa lampenelli has a fucking show?

Ew.

[goat999]

How about letting Bob Eatman handle this?

"Ohh guys..I, uhh,..I uhh think..oh shit..it's just that,uhhh...."

[Douche McGee]

The thing Sirius needs to understand is that Howard had over a year to promote on CBS that he was going to be on Sirius, not to mention all of the news articles, so most, if not all, of his fans know that he is there. O&A were off the air for over 2 years and then got XM, so I think it's pretty safe to assume that a lot of people don't know that they ever got back on the air. How about marketing to those people because I doubt Howard is really going to get any new listeners just based on how long he's been in radio and the unfunny horseshit he does.

[DonTheTrucker]

"Ohh guys..I, uhh,..I uhh think..oh shit..it's just that,uhhh...."

Still better than email and smashing equipment. As bad as that may be.

[oandapartycock]

do not always reflect the opinions of XM Sirius , it's share holders, or other on-air talents. As a Sirius members we will remind you
Is Sirius now hiring Nigerians to write their emails?

[Biff Hardslab]

I emailed XM/Sirus a few weeks back after hearing that ho-ho Howard was bashing them.

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/672/howardstern8.jpg

[PooperX]

So to convince you to get XM, they just listed all the things you can get on Sirius and ignored XM?

[seller326]

Not a howard fan, but when you make 100 Million a year, you deserve to be called Mr.

Some deserve to be called Mister, but others deserve to be called scumbags!

[seller326]

How about letting Bob Eatman handle this?

Bob Eatman got them into this mess

[drew the blue]

That's exactly the response you would expect from the dick-less lawyers that drafted those e-mails.

[BraffStaff]

Doesn't it seem O&A has the worst agent ever!!! Did they have any input in to contracts or do they just signed anything?

[UCJOE]

Doesn't it seem O&A has the worst agent ever!!! Did they have any input in to contracts or do they just signed anything?

the contract isnt bad by any means. dont compare to howie compare to others that aren't household names and they get paid a lot more than Bubba, scotty, ellis, Jay Thomas and the rest. they were most likely second to only oprah on xm
if Fm was still an option they would have even more bargaining but they didnt and still make millions, not bad

[Johnny Cakes]

I love the fact that they're proud of this:

Bubba the Love Sponge, The Scott Ferrall Show, Lisa Lampanelli, Chuck Zito's View and the Greg Fitzsimmons Show! It's the great entertainment you’ve come to expect from The King of All Media. (Jimmy would love the exclamation point)




But they hide O&A and do zero advertising for them .

We need to make them understand that if the Boys go, we go. And there's a lot of us.

[McGuirk]

Not only is it infuriating hearing his commercials on 202, but also the plugs on the music stations. The company is doing a poor job cross-promoting anything not involving Howard, and if they think his deluded fans and their receding hairlines will be enough to keep Sirius afloat, good luck.

[Rackrunner]

We need to make them understand that if the Boys go, we go. And there's a lot of us.Is there? I'm starting to wonder. Black-balling to this degree screams more than simple anger at them.

Not to mention, as I type this, there are currently 200 people on Wackbag. Only 55 registered members. 7600 "active members" and from a sampling of posters on here, a large number of show thieves that don't put up their money to help support the boys. So I'm not too sure that your statement of "there's a lot of us" really holds water anymore. And yes, I believe that Wackbag is an effective measuring stick for ultra fans that would actually cancel subs because of one show. Most casual fans just simply find something else to listen to. Evidence of that has been overwhelming in the last few years.

Sadly if it continues in the direction its going, live at the compound may be the only way to hear them soon. Unless of course some idiotic suit blocks that successfully.

O&A were off the air for over 2 years and then got XM, so I think it's pretty safe to assume that a lot of people don't know that they ever got back on the air.How do you figure? They've been on XM for 4 and a half years, plus they had at one point 22 stations terrestrially for about a year of that. If people arent aware of them by now, they never will be.

[Johnny Cakes]

Before the shit hit the fan with the "Free Hoo Hoo Howie" promos, Opie seemed to be happy that the subs were up. I hope that means something.

There's no way that the Company can afford to pay that old lady anything near what he wants once his contract is up, so it better start looking towards the future, ie O&A.

Of course, they could let him retire and keep the Chuck Zito and Gregg Fitzimmons show on the channel to draw listeners.

[mattiew23m]

I do believe a lot of people subscribe to Xm for just O&A alone. Remember homeless charlie? A lot of people canceled. I remember calling and the hold times were crazy, and the agents did not know what the hell to do. Well, if they get rid of O&A, a lot of people will cancel. Now, I do believe they should keep Howard Stern. I am not gonna pretend that he does not have a lot of people listening, he does. So, Howard leaving would be bad too. If they lose either Howard, or O&A its ALL over.

[Rackrunner]

Before the shit hit the fan with the "Free Hoo Hoo Howie" promos, Opie seemed to be happy that the subs were up. I hope that means something.Ya, Opie got told the subs were up exactly one day before being told of the promos. How up were the subs? How can anyone tell? How do being told subs are up and then receiving shit promotion work together in any way?


I do believe a lot of people subscribe to Xm for just O&A alone. Remember homeless charlie? A lot of people canceled. I remember calling and the hold times were crazy, and the agents did not know what the hell to do. Well, if they get rid of O&A, a lot of people will cancel. Now, I do believe they should keep Howard Stern. I am not gonna pretend that he does not have a lot of people listening, he does. So, Howard leaving would be bad too. If they lose either Howard, or O&A its ALL over.Just because hold times were tough for you doesn't exactly mean there was a mass exodus. The only number reported (albeit from XM) was about 5,000. Most likely very low, however even if it was 5,000 people cancelling at one time, do you think they had that many service agents standing by?

All parties involved are signed until what....late 2010/early2011? I guess we got some time to see where this ends up going.

[hoo cares]

Not only is it infuriating hearing his commercials on 202, but also the plugs on the music stations. The company is doing a poor job cross-promoting anything not involving Howard, and if they think his deluded fans and their receding hairlines will be enough to keep Sirius afloat, good luck.


Uh....Let's go a little easy on the receding hairlines, fella, OK? Just sayin. :D

[UCJOE]

promoting O&A like Howies wont mean shit. Stern has name value they dont. what they need to do is get O&A media attention (like Fallon) & in mags (Rolling Stone etc), when they first went to FM they had some hype behind them and even got on Leno & Letterman, that is what SiriusXM needs to do. Promoting O&A to Sirius listeners without getting them in front of media to showcase their talent means nothing

Matt i dont think losing either show means its over for satellite
O&A dont have that volume to destroy a company and bc of the insane contract they pay Stern it would be a media loss and bad PR to lose him but they also lose the contract. Of course that depends on the numbers, if Howie was worth the 2 million subs then they survive if its 4-5 like some have recently said might be the number then its a different deal, my guess is 2-2.5 & sat can survive losing most of that bc of the 100million yearly

[goat999]

Uh....Let's go a little easy on the receding hairlines, fella, OK? Just sayin. :D

But, if we could take some of Halfards harvest area and put..it into...o.k. AHHHH--BOOOO!

[DonTheTrucker]

The "hot talk" format is dying. Lawyers and suits have killed it. O&A and Howard are a dying breed. To ignore this is just crazy talk. Neither show is going to draw many new listeners. Calls and emails from listeners won't do shit. We just have to accept that and do what we're supposed to do in the first place. Listen.

[chaundon]

frunkis?

no way someone from sirius-xm wrote that e-mail.

[McGuirk]

frunkis?

no way someone from sirius-xm wrote that e-mail.
Why not? Poorly-worded form letters get sent out to complaining customers all the time. That's what this is. They saw "Howard Stern" in the guy's e-mail and automatically copy/paste a plug for him without considering the context. This actually reeks of a SiriusXM e-mail.

[oandapartycock]

Of course, they could let him retire and keep the Chuck Zito and Gregg Fitzimmons show on the channel to draw listeners.

I think they already have a Gregg Fitzsimmons and Simmons Fitzgregg show in the works already...











aboooooo.

[striker]

the best Stern, Martha, Oprah comment came last week, it wasn't what was said, it was what was implied. JOhn Malone head of Liberty Media was interviewed on CNBC, he was asked about Sirius/XM "they need to trim their balance sheets with their contractual obligations"

http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=1134639948&play=1

Sirius discussion comes on at 2:50

[turkeymann]

i only have xm for the boys when they go so will i
fuck Sirius/XM

[Rackrunner]

the best Stern, Martha, Oprah comment came last week, it wasn't what was said, it was what was implied. JOhn Malone head of Liberty Media was interviewed on CNBC, he was asked about Sirius/XM "they need to trim their balance sheets with their contractual obligations"

http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=1134639948&play=1

Sirius discussion comes on at 2:50Even with the insane 100 million contract, I believe the subs the Stern show did bring in more than covered the bill. Did Sirius expect 12-20 million to follow blindly? Probably. But honestly, the shows that all of us are listening to, IE: O+A, R+F. Howard, Bubba, Ferrall, Ellis and any others in this category are all profitable to the company. Hell, even if Howard only brought 2 million subs over, even at an average of 7.99 a month, thats 191 million right there. So I don't put Howard in the same category as the others since he actually delivers revenue.

[SonnyForelli]

Lisa lampenelli has a fucking show?

Ew.

I think she is the only one that deserves her own show, I am still waiting for the bbbboys to bash her or eeven jimmy, but I havent heard them bash her, at least too hard like a big black ****** cock that she loves soo much

[kloraferm]

Talk about flat out desperate! Ah, a company realizing their mistake millions of dollars later...

[Hudson]

I think she is the only one that deserves her own show, I am still waiting for the bbbboys to bash her or eeven jimmy, but I havent heard them bash her, at least too hard like a big black ****** cock that she loves soo muchI think the boys like her. Or at least jimmy.

[Tryaluckystrike]

Even with the insane 100 million contract, I believe the subs the Stern show did bring in more than covered the bill. Did Sirius expect 12-20 million to follow blindly? Probably. But honestly, the shows that all of us are listening to, IE: O+A, R+F. Howard, Bubba, Ferrall, Ellis and any others in this category are all profitable to the company. Hell, even if Howard only brought 2 million subs over, even at an average of 7.99 a month, thats 191 million right there. So I don't put Howard in the same category as the others since he actually delivers revenue.

The FM deal got XM (and later, XM/Sirius) three years of nonstop promotion over a three-hour program that was on several stations across the country for most of that time. From what we're to believe from the suits who congratulated Opie, many of those listeners who were left by the wayside when K-Rock flipped signed on specifically for that show. That's more than worth the value of O&A's pittance of a contract compared to Howard.

Just make sure you include O&A in the same breath as Howard when talking about which shows are actually profitable for the company. Of course, if you're talking about actual entertainment and humor, then O&A are certainly more apt at delivering what they were hired for!

[UCJOE]

The FM deal got XM (and later, XM/Sirius) three years of nonstop promotion over a three-hour program that was on several stations across the country for most of that time. From what we're to believe from the suits who congratulated Opie, many of those listeners who were left by the wayside when K-Rock flipped signed on specifically for that show. That's more than worth the value of O&A's pittance of a contract compared to Howard.

Just make sure you include O&A in the same breath as Howard when talking about which shows are actually profitable for the company. Of course, if you're talking about actual entertainment and humor, then O&A are certainly more apt at delivering what they were hired for!

he did
the shows that all of us are listening to, IE: O+A, R+F. Howard, Bubba, Ferrall, Ellis and any others in this category are all profitable to the company.

[Tryaluckystrike]

he did

Eh, reading comprehension, schmeeding domprehension. I'd rather jump to conclusions! :action-sm

[lockjaaaaww]

their a bussiness what did you expect.

[Chimp Pembry]

I think the boys like her. Or at least jimmy.

I always wondered why she was never on the show as she seems to do the same type of humor. Sirius vs. XM thing?

[seller326]

Uh....Let's go a little easy on the receding hairlines, fella, OK? Just sayin. :D

Yeah, it happens to most of us eventually

[anodyne03]

Not only is it infuriating hearing his commercials on 202, but also the plugs on the music stations. The company is doing a poor job cross-promoting anything not involving Howard, and if they think his deluded fans and their receding hairlines will be enough to keep Sirius afloat, good luck.

Ive had enough of the Stern promos. I took the time to send them an email in the Contact us>Feedback section to let them know. I know my 1 email will not make a difference but PLEASE guys, if this shit bugs you as much as it does me send them something and let them know how you feel. The promos are a Blatant slap in the face to OandA's listeners (their paying customers). If circumstances were different I really would not give a shit but it just make my skin crawl to hear them. I'd rather hear 20 minute breaks of "tell them about the discount Harry"

[BigBuffaloFan]

SAT needs talk shows and sports. You Can an ipod touch for almost the same price of some higher end SAT radios. If they let the boys go they will lose a lot of subs, Howie is fading fast thats why they promote him. I think they want more for thier money. 202 has 2 great shows and howie 100 has 1 ok show and 3 or 4 bad shows.

[Gilligan]

I used to have 2 XM subs, but dropped it down to one last year. I don't even listen to the damn thing anymore, I recently changed shifts and went from driving into work to taking the train and found out that the Inno's reception on the LIRR sucks ass. I'm forced to download to hear the show at all. Still, I pay for the one sub to support the guys. Fuck Howard, after football season, the "Best of Sirius" got cancelled off my sub, I shall only re-sub to that portion when the NFL starts again in the fall.

[Moneyshot_Yarrr]

I just thought of something, once I had a second to stop screaming GOD DAMNED RICH CUNT in my head at the thought of Howard being advertised on 202.

I don't have an eloquent way to put this, so here's my thought:

Stern hates O and A

He thinks they suck

Yet in a desperate bid to gain subs for Stern, they are advertising him on this show.

What the fuck, over? I thought the King of All Media would have enough clout where he wouldn't have to come crawling over to XM 202 to get new subs?

And does Satrad even pay attention to their subscriber base, or have any idea about their talent? If you listen to O and A, chances are you know who Stern is.

So, in summation, Stern is still a whiny Jew who apparently needs OUR help now, and the suits don't know dick.