Steve McNair shot to death

[Steam]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4306275


Former Tennessee Titans (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=ten) quarterback Steve McNair (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=733) has been killed, a source has confirmed to ESPN.com.
McNair, police said, suffered a fatal gunshot wound to the head in downtown Nashville, News Channel 5 in Nashville reported.
McNair played 13 seasons in the NFL, 11 were with the Tennessee Titans. He played his final two years with the Baltimore Ravens (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=bal), retiring after the 2007 season.
McNair was picked third overall in the 1995 draft out of Alcorn State by the then Houston Oilers.


I guess the recent rash of deaths decided to creep its way into sports.



I always thought McNair was overrated but what a shitty way to go out.

[moegolden]

wow. is nashville seedy? I know parts of memphis are supposed to be

[Steam]

wow. is nashville seedy? I know parts of memphis are supposed to be

I'm sure there are bad parts in every city. I've been to Nashville and it was alright where I was, but then again I had no reason to venture into the shitty parts (although we did get lost in a rather sketch part of the city when we were trying to get back on the highway after a Sounds game, it was somewhere near Vanderbilt).

Fucking sad.

[FellowTraveler]

wow. is nashville seedy? I know parts of memphis are supposed to be

That is one the main downtown areas close to all the county bars and what not. Big tourist area. At the rate this is going, I am really glad I am not famous. Downtown is usually very safe. It is the East side of the county that is bad. Where the Sounds play is a bad part of town.

[Aizazzle]

Wow, I just saw this while watching the Phillies game. Apparently, there are some reports that it might be murder-suicide by his wife. None of it is confirmed. What a shitty way to go out.

RIP McNair

[DanaReevesLungs]

Appears to be a pretty nice apartment complex at the intersection where he was found. This is fucking brutal though man. I wonder if he was involved in a drug related shooting here?

[moegolden]

sounds like a Phil Hartman thing

[DJ Evel Ed]

drugs man..

Wasn't he arrested before or am I thinking of Warren Moon?

[askewcore]

drugs man..

Wasn't he arrested before or am I thinking of Warren Moon?

I dont think he was ever involved with drugs at all. It says there was a female victim with him. Sounds like maybe he was fucking someone's chick.

[Wilmington WOW]

I guess God needed a QB that almost won the superbowl

I was listening to the phils on the radio.
L.A. mentioned it in passing as it came across the ticker
The 'play by play' guy went right back to the next play, and they never brought it up again.

[George Costanza]

Dammit just started a thread about this.

Vandammage in effect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ffs_5DMJLw&feature=fvw

[TEXAS TRUCKER]

Sad. McNair was a good guy.

[Wilmington WOW]

Dammit just started a thread about this.

Vandammage in effect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ffs_5DMJLw&feature=fvw

send people over to this thread

[jagsfans]

I'm speculating Murder/Suicide. This sucks but as a Jags fan sympathy for a Titan is difficult to muster.

[Biff Hardslab]

Deleted because I was thinking about Eddie Gorege's wife.

[SurlyTruckDrivr]

wow, that sucks, RIP

[ginaf20697]

Wasn't his wife on the last edition of "Survivor"?

That was Eddie George :action-sm

[Stormrider666]

RIP Steve McNair. He was one of the best quarterbacks on the field and off.

[Phi Mu Alpha]

RIP Steve McNair. He was one of the best quarterbacks on the field and off.

word

[Garyisajoke]

I wonder if the police are going to bring in Marvin Harrison for questioning.

[BullsLawDan]

sucks. Guy should have been enjoying his NFL retirement.

[Lunchbox420]

RIP Steve McNair. He was one of the best quarterbacks on the field and off.


Lets not get carried away...

Police spokesman Don Aaron said officials tentatively identified the woman, but did not release her name. He confirmed she wasn't McNair's wife, Mechelle.

Are they looking for the wife as the shooter?

Does this make him a HOF inductee?

[jagsfans]

Lets not get carried away...



Are they looking for the wife as the shooter?

Does this make him a HOF inductee?

Not if they find out he pulled the trigger. Can't have more than one murderer in the Hall of Fame.

[Lunchbox420]

UPDATE

UPDATE -- A Nashville police spokesman identified the woman as Sahel Kazemi, a "friend" of McNair's. A pistol was found near her body. She suffered a single gunshot wound to the head, police say, and McNair "was shot multiple times."

The bitch killed him...

http://www.televisioninternet.com/news/pictures/sahel-Kazemi-photo2.jpg
http://www.televisioninternet.com/news/pictures/sahel-Kazemi-photo3.jpg

[Mother Shucker]

UPDATE



The bitch killed him...

I was thinking that before that report, now, more so.

[oandapartycock]

http://www.musiccitymiracles.com/2009/7/4/938298/the-details-surrounding-steve

The Details Surrounding Steve McNair's Death

Mc_tiny by Jimmy on Jul 4, 2009 10:41 PM CDT in News Comment 1 comment

I have been hesitant to write this post because there have been a lot of rumors floating around all day, and the last thing I wanted to do in this case was add fuel to the rumor fire. It does appear now that most of the details have been confirmed.

The police are not calling this a murder-suicide yet, but all of the facts are pointing to that being the case. When the police arrived at the condo that Steve McNair had been renting they found his body on the couch with multiple gunshot wounds. They found the body of 20-year old Sahel Kazemi in the floor with one gunshot to the head. The police apparently did not find the gun until they moved the bodies, which leads me to believe that the gun was under her body. They have not released yet who the gun belongs too.

It has also come out that Kazemi was arrested earlier this week for a DUI in a Cadillac Escalade that was registered in her name, as well as McNair's. McNair was a passenger in the car that night, but no chargers were filed against him.

The autopsies are scheduled for Sunday morning at which point I expect this police to officially rule this a murder-suicide.

August has agreed to put in some weekend time and post some links in the morning. Stay tuned to MCM for all of the latest breaking news.

[DonTheTrucker]

One of three quarterbacks with 30,000 passing yards and 3,500 rushing yards.

The other two?

Fran Tarkenton and Steve Young.

He carried a bad team to a Super Bowl and did this all while constantly injured.

He'll be in Canton sooner than later.

[lockjaaaaww]

another dead football player

[Lunchbox420]

I guess God needed a QB with bad knees and a hole in his head...




too soon?

[Garyisajoke]

I guess God needed a QB with bad knees and a hole in his head...




too soon?

Too late, actually:

I guess God needed a QB that almost won the superbowl

:action-sm

[Lunchbox420]

Too late, actually:



:action-sm


meh...that one was lame...he has plenty of those....he needed a negro nfl qb with a hole in his head

[English Gent]

RIP Steve McNair. He was one of the best quarterbacks on the field and off.

QFT. I've never been a Titans fan, but he always struck me as a fucking good, old-school QB. What a damn shame.

[Hoagie]

This is what should happen to everyone who ever plays for the Ravens.

[Myhairygrundle]

This is what should happen to everyone who ever plays for the Ravens.

:icon_eek::icon_eek::icon_eek:


Ouch. I did giggle at that.


I liked him. Not thuggish, very good player. Should have won a SB. But when you are the one carrying a shitty team, sucks.

RIP.

[Smokezilla]

Hate to hear this as all of the players and media constantly referred to this guy as a class-act. Major suckage that this didn't happen to one of the more thuggish guys in the league who probably deserved it lots more.

[DonTheTrucker]

This is what should happen to everyone who ever plays for the Ravens.

http://www.ultimatecapper.com/images/ben-roethlisberger-crash-picture.gif


By the way, it's pretty much been confirmed that the crazy girlfriend did it, then did herself.

Sometimes crazy pussy just isn't worth it.

[CousinDave]

Sometimes crazy pussy just isn't worth it.


I second that

[BullsLawDan]

By the way, it's pretty much been confirmed that the crazy girlfriend did it, then did herself.

Sometimes crazy pussy just isn't worth it.

But... but... her sister is saying she couldn't possibly kill anyone!

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2009-07-05-kazemi-family_N.htm

:rolleyes:

[Hudson]

Well he was used used to being blue I guess.




A booo!

[Stormrider666]

Lets not get carried away...



Are they looking for the wife as the shooter?

Does this make him a HOF inductee?

One of three quarterbacks with 30,000 passing yards and 3,500 rushing yards.

The other two?

Fran Tarkenton and Steve Young.

He carried a bad team to a Super Bowl and did this all while constantly injured.

He'll be in Canton sooner than later.

Don's post explains why he was one of the best quarterbacks on the field. I also liked how no one ever made excuses for him like some have had with other black quarterbacks. He went out there and found a way to win using his arm, legs, and his brain. Finally, he was one touch son of bitch.

http://www.ultimatecapper.com/images/ben-roethlisberger-crash-picture.gif


By the way, it's pretty much been confirmed that the crazy girlfriend did it, then did herself.

Sometimes crazy pussy just isn't worth it.

Seriously can the pyscho cunts ever just kill themselves and leave their boyfriends and/or husbands out of it.

[CousinDave]

I also liked how no one ever made excuses for him like some have had with other black quarterbacks.


Do you mean a certain player for the Philadelphia Eagles ?



Seriously can the pyscho cunts ever just kill themselves and leave their boyfriends and/or husbands out of it.


Happened 1 time that I know of.

[Stormrider666]

Do you mean a certain player for the Philadelphia Eagles ?





Happened 1 time that I know of.

Him, Vince Young, and Micheal Vick.

[Hoagie]

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a38/Hoagie1/20090202mfsb22_roethlisberger_tr-1.jpgX2 > http://www.ultimatecapper.com/images/ben-roethlisberger-crash-picture.gif

[Garyisajoke]

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a38/Hoagie1/20090202mfsb22_roethlisberger_tr-1.jpgX2 > http://www.ultimatecapper.com/images/ben-roethlisberger-crash-picture.gif

The Seahawks got fucked in the first one, and you know it.

[Hoagie]

The Seahawks got fucked in the first one, and you know it.Yeah....they had to play a better team. That had to suck to be them.

[Debbie1125]

According to what I read, McNair told this girl he was getting a divorce so they could get married. Maybe he was going to break it off and she couldn't handle it, went crazy and killed him.

It has to suck to be his wife and family though.

[jagsfans]

Don's post explains why he was one of the best quarterbacks on the field. I also liked how no one ever made excuses for him like some have had with other black quarterbacks. He went out there and found a way to win using his arm, legs, and his brain. Finally, he was one touch son of bitch.

Exactly, if not for the fact he was on the Titans and constantly killing my Jags he would have been one of my favorite players. I personally have never seen a guy play through so many obvious injuries and perform both facets of the game, without having a world class receiver.

[tysonpunchinguterus]

That's what I was thinking, too. She probably didn't want to lose all the crap his money was buying her and snapped. Her truck was apparently bought by him (both of their names are on the registration) and she was getting limo rides home every night. I doubt her Dave & Busters tips could pay to keep living that lifestyle without him.


According to what I read, McNair told this girl he was getting a divorce so they could get married. Maybe he was going to break it off and she couldn't handle it, went crazy and killed him.

It has to suck to be his wife and family though.

[DonTheTrucker]

Finally, he was one touch son of bitch.

Probably the toughest QB of this generation. He was 1950's leather helmet tough.

[DonTheTrucker]

TShe probably didn't want to lose all the crap his money was buying her and snapped.

Give yourself a

http://www.mha-nc.org/english/images/stories/mha_bell.jpg

[MilkmanDan]

You fuck around on your wife with some crazy young foreigner with dreams of being "famous" you're rolling the dice.
He never played in a market that'll pick apart every sentence that comes out of your mouth so I don't know if he was a douche or not.

[Garyisajoke]

You fuck around on your wife with some crazy young foreigner with dreams of being "famous" you're rolling the dice.
He never played in a market that'll pick apart every sentence that comes out of your mouth so I don't know if he was a douche or not.

Every market picks their guys apart, it's just the big cities that make it national news. I can say he was beloved during his time in Baltimore. And I'm reading he initiated divorce proceedings (or his wife did, not sure).

EDIT: Now I'm reading that no such filings were made. My bad. What a dick.

[Debbie1125]

Hate to hear this as all of the players and media constantly referred to this guy as a class-act. Major suckage that this didn't happen to one of the more thuggish guys in the league who probably deserved it lots more.

I've watched games where McNair was really banged up and still played. I do agree.....it sucks that this happened to him.

A far more deserving person of this fate would have been Vick.

[DonTheTrucker]

You fuck around on your wife with some crazy young foreigner with dreams of being "famous" you're rolling the dice.
He never played in a market that'll pick apart every sentence that comes out of your mouth so I don't know if he was a douche or not.

The "worst" thing he ever did was get a DUI. Only trouble he ever had in his life. By all accounts, he was a really nice guy.

But you're right, any time you mess around with crazy foreigner pussy, you're taking your life in your own hands.

[DonTheTrucker]

I've watched games where McNair was really banged up and still played.

He played with a bruised STERNUM. Ouch.

[Debbie1125]

I am listening to the today's replay. I would like to add someone to the list that I wish this had happened to instead of McNair.......that racist P.O.S. Al Sharpton. I hate him more and more every day.

[Sct Ptersns Twn]

Pictures anyone?

Dumb shit........



Idiot with his killer (http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/05/mcnair-and-his-friend-before-the-shootings/)

[Stormrider666]

Wow this pyscho bitch sure lived up to the sterotype by killing McNair in his sleep. It reminds me of Ronnie B.'s line about not going sleep around a crazy girl.

[bobawood]

Is this thing still going on??!!

[BullsLawDan]

Is this thing still going on??!!

Umm... you mean is McNair still dead?

Probably going to be "going on" for a while. If he was Jesus he probably could have made that extra yard in the Super Bowl.

:rolleyes:

[DonTheTrucker]

http://www.baltimorebeatdown.com/2009/7/8/941813/does-steve-mcnair-belong-in-the?ref=yahoo

McNair was as good as Aikman. Almost as good as Warren Moon and in the same league as Steve Young (sort of). The only difference is he carried a bad team, and they had people to throw to for their careers. The best he ever had was Derrick Mason. Not exactly Jerry Rice or Michael Irvin.

He'll make the HoF. First ballot.

[Ballbuster1]

They got the douche that supplied the chick with the gun:
NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- Federal agents have arrested a convicted murderer for allegedly providing the gun used to kill retired NFL quarterback Steve McNair.

Adrian J. Gilliam Jr., 33, of LaVergne, Tenn., was arrested by agents of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

A criminal complaint unsealed Friday in Nashville says that Gilliam -- who was convicted of murder and attempted armed robbery in 1993 in Florida -- admitted he sold the gun to the woman who later shot McNair.

McNair was shot to death on July 4 at his condo by his 20-year-old mistress, Sahel Kazemi, who then turned the gun on herself.

The complaint charges Gilliam with illegally possessing a firearm, which he is barred from doing as a felon.

Detectives traced the gun, a 9mm Bryco/Jennings, to its 2002 sale at a pawn shop, according to the complaint. Gilliam eventually bought it from an individual for $100. According to court documents, Gilliam admitted to detectives he sold the gun to Kazemi for $100.

[Ballbuster1]

He'll make the HoF. First ballot.
Not everyone agrees:
NASHVILLE — Through the eyes of one man, Steve McNair's chance at the Hall of Fame finished 1 yard short.

Had receiver Kevin Dyson scored in Super Bowl XXXIV and the Tennessee Titans gone on to beat the St. Louis Rams, the former Titans quarterback would've had a good chance of being enshrined in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, NFL analyst Jamie Dukes said.

"Looking back, that was 1 yard probably from the Hall," said Dukes, a former offensive lineman with the Falcons who's now with the NFL Network. "With everything else he has done in his career, to be able to add Super Bowl winner to that ... Without that victory, it makes it difficult."


This week, the Tennessean conducted a survey among the selectors, and the results weren't encouraging for those hoping McNair's bust will be in Canton one day. Of the 22 voters who responded, only two said they'd vote for McNair right now, while 16 said they don't believe he has Hall of Fame credentials.

Four more voters said they were undecided and would keep an open mind as part of the process. The committee, made up of sportswriters, has 44 members in all. Dukes doesn't get a vote.

McNair, who was shot and killed July 4, won't be eligible for the Hall of Fame until 2013 — five years after his 13-year NFL playing career ended. He played 11 seasons with the Titans and the final two with the Ravens before retiring in 2008.

"Although Steve was a tremendous leader within the Titans, I don't believe his on-field accomplishments were enough to be selected to the Hall of Fame," said John Czarnecki, of Fox Sports. "A very good player; simply not a great quarterback like Montana and Elway."

John McClain of the Houston Chronicle agrees.

Rest of the article here:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2009-07-13-mcnair-hall-of-fame_N.htm