2009 New York Giants Thread

[Jimmy's Dignity]

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They show up at training camp, I start the thread :D

Everyone is signed, Michael Boley is the only one who is truly injured, he'll be back after the first week of the season (suspension + injury)

Who's got tickets? I wound up buying FullBallz's tix (thanks again) and I know JPetrucci has a set with his brother.

Schedule: (http://gts762.americaneagle.com/schedule2009.asp)
Preseason
Monday 8/17 8:15pm: vs. Carolina
Saturday 8/22 8pm: @ Chicago
Saturday 8/29 8pm: vs. Jets
Thursday 9/3 7:30pm: @ New England

Regular Season
Sunday 9/13 4:15pm: vs. Washington
Sunday 9/20 8:20pm: @ Dallas
Sunday 9/27 1pm: @ Tampa Bay
Sunday 10/4 1pm: @ Kansas City
Sunday 10/11 1pm: vs. Oakland
Sunday 10/18 1pm: @ New Orleans
Sunday 10/25 8:20pm: vs. Arizona
Sunday 11/1 4:15pm: @ Philadelphia
Sunday 11/8 4:15pm: vs. San Diego
Sunday 11/15 BYE WEEK
*Sunday 11/22 1pm: vs. Atlanta
Thursday 11/26 8:20pm: @ Denver
*Sunday 12/6 4:15pm: vs. Dallas
*Sunday 12/13 8:20pm: vs. Philadelphia
Monday 12/21 8:30pm: @ Washington
*Sunday 12/27 1pm: vs. Carolina
*Sunday 1/3 1pm: @ Minnesota

* = Flex Schedule

the end of the schedule is exactly like last year...3 straight division games then home vs. Carolina & on the road at Minnesota :icon_conf

Eli's in a contract year, but he expects an extention to be done before the end of the summer.
the NY DA seems to be thinking about filing charges against Pierce, but there's no real news on that front


I think it's going to be an improved defense with all the DL signings and, more importantly, Osi being back. I cannot wait for the season to start

[Steam]

Can't wait for September/October to get here. Stretch run and playoff baseball. Fantasy Football. Colder weather. And the Giants.

One of these years I'll get down to a game but will probably wait for the new Stadium.

Definitely hoping they get the Eli contract done and I'm still a little concerned about the wide receivers. I hope someone steps up to take the big boy receptions.

[Ronreddog]

I am looking forward to this season also. I am hoping they can put it all together this season, and make it to the Super bowl, where they belong.

I am still trying to get tix to week 3, when they invade Tampa Bay. I would so love to see them play here, and root for them.

GO BIG BLUE!

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Ron, check out Big Blue Travel (http://bigbluetravel.com/index.php?b=details&id=72) I went on a trip through them last year down to Dallas...it was really f'in cool. I got to meet Jim Fassel (who has the creepiest smile of all time) and Rodney Hampton. I was drinking beers in the hotel lobby/bar with Hamp while watching the Jets/Bills game.

The packages include air fare, but if you call them you may be able to work something out because you're local.

[JPetrucci23]

Robbins, Boley and Bernard to start camp on PUP

[Steam]

I got to meet Jim Fassel (who has the creepiest smile of all time) and Rodney Hampton.

Did you ask Fassel what his opinion on Trey Junkin was?

I fucking loved Rodney Hampton. I remember watching the entire first round of that 1990 draft since I was hoping the Giants would get Emmitt, but I was happy with Hampton. He became my favorite Giant by default at that point. If I remember correctly, he took his first career in the preseason in for a score. Twelve year old Steam was excited. By the way, my parents hated that I wasted their entire Sunday by making them watch the draft. Fuck them.

[jnoble]

I'm sad to see long time Giants like Toomer go, but he just wasn't as fast or productive as he used to be. Sam Madison and RW McQuarters will be missed too, but both those guys are pretty much retired anyway.

I can't wait to see what Nicks can bring to us at WR and the TE they drafted, Travis Beckum, who will be playing more of an H-back role.

I think Bradshaw and Ware can fill in for the departed Ward. Rookie Ronnie Brown is there too, we'll see what he's made of.

[jnoble]

Did you ask Fassel what his opinion on Trey Junkin was?

I fucking loved Rodney Hampton. I remember watching the entire first round of that 1990 draft since I was hoping the Giants would get Emmitt, but I was happy with Hampton. He became my favorite Giant by default at that point. If I remember correctly, he took his first career in the preseason in for a score. Twelve year old Steam was excited. By the way, my parents hated that I wasted their entire Sunday by making them watch the draft. Fuck them.


..back in 1993.

Judging from the emotional responses on a popular Giants message board I've been a member of for years and years now (bigblueinteractive.com) the 2003 SF playoff disaster ending with the Trey Junkin bad snap is by far the most painful and brutal loss EVER in team history. Yes, worse than the '89 Flipper Anderson game, worse than the '97 Minny Meltdown, worse than the 2000 Super Bowl. I gets me angry all over again just thinking about it

[Jimmy's Dignity]

you're on BBI too? So's JPetrucci...I signed up a few years ago, but I just like the layout of things here more.

Minny Meltdown was exceptionally painful, because the "touchdown" that Jake Reed scored with a foot out of bounds was at my end of the stadium, essentially right by our seats (although we were 30 rows back). The San Fran game...all I can say is fuck Johnny Lynn. "Hey lets go into the prevent in the 2nd quarter!" Die.

[Steam]

..back in 1993.

Judging from the emotional responses on a popular Giants message board I've been a member of for years and years now (bigblueinteractive.com) the 2003 SF playoff disaster ending with the Trey Junkin bad snap is by far the most painful and brutal loss EVER in team history. Yes, worse than the '89 Flipper Anderson game, worse than the '97 Minny Meltdown, worse than the 2000 Super Bowl. I gets me angry all over again just thinking about it

It probably was my first decent replica as well, but I got the blue. I was a wishy-washy little bitch when it came to football teams when I was growing up. My mom was a Giants fan and my dad liked the Jets. My first football game memory was rooting for the Giants but along the way I liked the Cowboys (my grandmother went to Dallas on a trip and bought me a Cowboys winter hat), the Bears (typical bandwagon jumping but hey Jim McMahon was extremely cool to a seven year old), the Jets (the kid we babysat was a fan), but settled on the Giants for good in '89 once the Bears traded McMahon to the Chargers in August. Of course, that was the year of that fucking Flipper Anderson game. I remember after that faggot scored and just ran into the locker room I went outside and was extremely saddened. It was the worst loss I had watched in my eleven years of living (even worse than Hogan losing to Andre). That Giants team was pretty fucking good and to lose like that was fucking devastating. The Junkin game was fucking awful too but at least we got to watch the epic 1990 (yes I realize it technically took place in '91, damn you NFL) NFC Championship Game against that faggot Niners. I remember how angry my brother got when Matt Bahr kicked that field goal and then threw me and my back right against a door knob. That still didn't take away the euphoria of that kick, Roger Craig's glorious fumble, or Leonard Marshall's destruction of Joe Montana. There was also the 49-3 shallacking after the '86 season. But of course, the 49ers also crushed the Giants in '94 after a good first year by Reeves following the awful Ray Handley era.

Ok, that was a long way to go to just say FUCK FLIPPER ANDERSON!



Minny Meltdown was exceptionally painful, because the "touchdown" that Jake Reed scored with a foot out of bounds was at my end of the stadium,

Another fucking awful game. I just remember going back to college a few weeks later to much laughter from others. But again, we still got to watch that glorious 2000 (once again technically 2001) NFC Championship game. The quick barrage followed by Randy Moss basically quitting was quite a good memory that was tarnished two weeks later by the arrival of Hollywood Sehorn.

[JPetrucci23]

..back in 1993.

Judging from the emotional responses on a popular Giants message board I've been a member of for years and years now (bigblueinteractive.com) the 2003 SF playoff disaster ending with the Trey Junkin bad snap is by far the most painful and brutal loss EVER in team history. Yes, worse than the '89 Flipper Anderson game, worse than the '97 Minny Meltdown, worse than the 2000 Super Bowl. I gets me angry all over again just thinking about it



holy shit - JNoble!! I'm RodneyHamp on BBI, small world!

[JPetrucci23]

btw - Pierce is a free man, no indictment for him (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4374477)

[DocSavage]

btw - Pierce is a free man, no indictment for him (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4374477)

More detail....

Ex-Giant Plaxico Burress has been indicted by a New York grand jury on charges of criminal possession of a weapon in the second degree.

No surprise here. Burress will surrender to authorities, post bail, and set a court date for a possible trial. He will have to decide whether he is willing to go through a trial or work on a plea agreement now. The general consensus is that Burress will face a year in jail at a minimum, but the district attorney is looking for more. Burress' former teammate, Antonio Pierce, was not indicted for his role in the 2008 incident.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

more importantly, Pierce isn't going to be suspended by the NFL. Plax turned down a plea deal that would have given him 2 years in jail...it's going to be interesting to see what happens there

[Mindslayer]

Now that he turned down the plea the DA is going to go after him big time. Im just glad that he didnt take Pierce down with him.

Anyway, really looking forward to the new season, too. My only real concern is the fact that they didnt go out and get either Edwards or Boldin. The lack of a real threat at wideout concerns me a bit.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

it concerns me to a point...I'm also really thinking that Moss could be a poor-man's version of Steve Smith (Carolina) and that Ramses Barden will be a huge fucking steal in the late rounds of any fantasy draft. Like last round, you've got all your positions filled, he's there, fuckin' go get him

[Mindslayer]

When is Moss not hurt, though ?

[iSpeakEloquent]

it concerns me to a point...I'm also really thinking that Moss could be a poor-man's version of Steve Smith (Carolina) and that Ramses Barden will be a huge fucking steal in the late rounds of any fantasy draft. Like last round, you've got all your positions filled, he's there, fuckin' go get him

eastside dave?



anyone see the new stadium recently, it makes giants stadium look silly

and indoor skiiing is for queers

[Mindslayer]

My brother in law just called me, said he might be able to get 50 yard line seats for the Oct 11th game (theyre high up, though, but fuck it).

[JPetrucci23]

Eli about to become the highest paid player in the NFL (http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2009/08/ny_giants_on_the_verge_of_bloc.html)


Rumors are 8 yrs, $115 mil with a lot of incentives

I just read another rumor:
Jay Glazer of FoxSports.com has the Eli #s: 6 new yrs at $97.5 million. 7 yrs total at $106.9 million.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

I love Eli & all, but I just don't think there's any reason why he should be paid more than his big brother. Yes he's gotten us to the playoffs every year he's been a starter & won a Super Bowl, hence he deserves a raise. However, insane stupid money is reserved for 4,000 yards 35+ TDs and fewer than 12 ints.

and like you said yesterday, Toomer's now a Chief (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4376493)

[JPetrucci23]

he got the 6 yrs $97 mil. i want his job.

[Mindslayer]

Yea they definitely overpaid, but at least theyve locked him down long term.

[ceeps04]

I don't pay his salary, and I've been around long enough to know that NFL contract numbers are nonsense and pretty much means nothing. However I do like the calming effect of having a franchise quarterback no matter how frustrated I get with him.

[JPetrucci23]

I don't pay his salary, and I've been around long enough to know that NFL contract numbers are nonsense and pretty much means nothing. However I do like the calming effect of having a franchise quarterback no matter how frustrated I get with him.

We have a young, incredible D-Line and O-Line, as well as a franchise QB locked up for years. The Giants will be competitive for a long time, folks (barring injuries).

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Took em long enough, but there was finally a tussle at camp (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2009/08/fight-night-at-u-albany.html)
It's a lengthy read...the gist of it was that the fight was between Hedgecock & Bryan Kehl, the LB we took from BYU last year...wound up going 3 different times

an angry team is a good team


in other news...if Sean O'Hara gets injured we're fucked.
When order was restored, disorder was returned to the snapping game. Tutan Reyes snapped one straight up in the air - - not easy to do in a non-shot-gun snap. Later, Adam Koets - - still working with the first team - - bounced one to the quarterback. This, by the way, is getting ridiculous.

Getting creative along the defensive front

Wondering how the Giants are going to get all their defensive linemen on the field this season? Well, apparently defensive coordinator Bill Sheridan has come up with one creative way. He lined them up in a 5-1-5 alignment at practice today, with DE Justin Tuck as the nose tackle, Jay Alford and Barry Cofield flanking him at tackle, and Mathias Kiwanuka and Osi Umenyiora at the ends.

“And there’s more to come,” Coughlin said. “Guys that are not practicing are part of the package too.”

The idea, Coughlin said, is to use “different alignments to try to create some issues for people.” And apparently Sheridan has many more ideas.

“With Osi back it’ll give us even more flexibility,” Couglin said. “That’s just getting started.”
a 5-1-5? That's going to be nutsy

[askewcore]

Help us Shaun O' Hara, you're our only hope.

I dont understand the inability of people to snap a football. I played guard in Pop Warner and Jr. High, when I got to high school I moved to center. It's not that fucking hard to snap the ball. I get that maybe that in the pro's you have alot to think about when you get to the line, but that's why they get there first.

Per Pat Hanlon's twitter:

Chris Snee didn't practice today. He was his leg wrapped.

You know, he's Tom Coughlin's son-in-law, fellas. I dont know if you knew that, because the announcers never mention it every game.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

yeah, snapping a ball isn't the hardest thing to do...

I bet Snee is just fine...and he's a pro bowler :bigok

[JPetrucci23]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULCY9rKk7e0&feature=related

best video on youtube!

[askewcore]

I heard Barden, Nicks and Stoney Woodson (CB, I think we took him in the 7th round) have all looked very good at camp so far. Kenny Phillips apparently has been the stand-out, and a buddy of mine in Albany told me he looks like a super star out there.

[JPetrucci23]

I heard Barden, Nicks and Stoney Woodson (CB, I think we took him in the 7th round) have all looked very good at camp so far. Kenny Phillips apparently has been the stand-out, and a buddy of mine in Albany told me he looks like a super star out there.

I went up there last weekend, Phillips is a fucking stud. Also, check out this one handed grab Barden made while I was up there. I did NOT take these pics:

http://www.primersource.com/photos/GTC/Barden/IMGP2454.jpg
http://www.primersource.com/photos/GTC/Barden/IMGP2455.jpg
http://www.primersource.com/photos/GTC/Barden/IMGP2456.jpg
http://www.primersource.com/photos/GTC/Barden/IMGP2457.jpg

[askewcore]

How does Barden's speed look? That's my biggest concern about him, it's hard to judge his speed based on films from Cal-Poly. I was sweating him before the draft, so I was crazy happy the G-Men got him.

[JPetrucci23]

How does Barden's speed look? That's my biggest concern about him, it's hard to judge his speed based on films from Cal-Poly. I was sweating him before the draft, so I was crazy happy the G-Men got him.

he doesn't seem like the fastest guy, looks a little slow getting off the line, but from watching practice it seems obvious that he is going to be used as a red zone jump ball target. ANYTHING that is thrown remotely close to him he just jumps over the defensive back and picks it out of the air.

[askewcore]

he doesn't seem like the fastest guy, looks a little slow getting off the line, but from watching practice it seems obvious that he is going to be used as a red zone jump ball target. ANYTHING that is thrown remotely close to him he just jumps over the defensive back and picks it out of the air.

That works for me. From the pics you posted Ramses' hands look like they're like 3/4 the size of the ball. I like it. I'm a little concerned who our deep threat will be this year, but I think they might try and mix it up with Hixon, Manningham and maybe Moss or Nicks, although I expect Nicks to be Steve Smith-ish.

[JPetrucci23]

That works for me. From the pics you posted Ramses' hands look like they're like 3/4 the size of the ball. I like it. I'm a little concerned who our deep threat will be this year, but I think they might try and mix it up with Hixon, Manningham and maybe Moss or Nicks, although I expect Nicks to be Steve Smith-ish.

yeah the football looks like a softball in his hands. Nicks' hands too. Believe it or not, everything you have been reading about Moss is true. He looked very good. Hagan has looked fantastic as well, I think he will beat out Tyree, especially now that Tyree has a hip injury. This kid Shaun Bodiford made a couple of nice plays at WR while I was up there, was able to use his speed to get behind the reserve defensive backs a couple of times. He could make a nice addition to the practice squad.

[Mindslayer]

At this point Id be shocked if Tyree wasnt cut, which is would be a shame.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULCY9rKk7e0&feature=related

best video on youtube!

that was fucking awesome


I really do feel very sorry for Tyree, he just can't get a break & there are too many talented WR's on the Giants for him to make it just as a special teamer. Maybe they could attempt to convert him to a free safety or something like that...God knows he can hit.
But with Derek Hagan having an excellent camp and drawing praise from the coaches, it’s getting harder and harder to see where Tyree fits since the Giants are highly unlikely to take more than seven receivers into the season. Special teams are always a possible way for him to sneak onto the roster, but after missing all of last season with a knee injury and with his advancing age, he’s just not as fast as he used to be.

It is still early, though. But Tyree is clearly getting frustrated.


How was your trip up to camp? Were you there for any of the Kehl-Hitchcock fights? How bad is the center position looking behind O'Hara? As bad as Vacchiano is alluding to?

[JPetrucci23]

that was fucking awesome


I really do feel very sorry for Tyree, he just can't get a break & there are too many talented WR's on the Giants for him to make it just as a special teamer. Maybe they could attempt to convert him to a free safety or something like that...God knows he can hit.


How was your trip up to camp? Were you there for any of the Kehl-Hitchcock fights? How bad is the center position looking behind O'Hara? As bad as Vacchiano is alluding to?

Yeah, that was in the same practice as the ridiculous Barden catch. They went at it, then when Cliff Louis hurt his ankle Coughlin brought the team together to tell them to chill the fuck out. Put it this way... if O'Hara gets hurt we are fuuuuucked! There were definitely some problems snapping the ball, especially in the gun.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Eli signed his contract extension. 6 years, $97.5

Giants also broke out the Wildcat yesterday at practice...at least for the scout team. Nicks & Andre Brown were in the backfield with Carr split out wide.

C Adam Koets saved his worst for last. Two bad snaps in the Wildcat drills. One went over RB Andre Brown’s head, and the other was high but catchable. … Brown also drew the ire of coaches by throwing a lazy pass in the drill that was picked off by S Kenny Phillips. After much discussion on the sidelines among the reporters, we’ve decided not to count that one as an official interception. So the count stands at 25.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/#ixzz0OBALIAKH

[askewcore]

I'd be real surprised if the Giants broke out a wildcat during the season. We don't really have personnel for it, and Coughlin doesn't seem like a big gimmicks man.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Yeah, I don't see that happening either. Maybe if they went with Bradshaw & Moss in the backfield with Hixon, Jacobs, & Manningham split wide...still don't think it'd be good for us. But with Vick on the Eagles, you've gotta practice against it.

[JPetrucci23]

they won't run any plays from the wildcat, its just for the defense to get some looks at it. the bread and butter of this team is the offensive line and the running game. just pound the motherfuckers.

[JPetrucci23]

Rookie RB Andre Brown ruptured his achilles tendon today, out for the year. Bummer.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

that definitely sucks a big one, but it guarantees more carries for Bradshaw. For some reason I read that he would be splitting carries with Brown instead of Danny Ware

[JPetrucci23]

that definitely sucks a big one, but it guarantees more carries for Bradshaw. For some reason I read that he would be splitting carries with Brown instead of Danny Ware


Thats b/c a lot of people thought he was beating out Ware, and Brown would end up as the #3. Of the 4 RBs, Brown has the best hands. We know Jacobs will miss some time with injuries, just gotta hope that Bradshaw is the real deal, and that Ware can step up and fill in nicely!

[Mindslayer]

I think that ultimately they'll be okay, but like you guys say, Bradshaw's going to have to step up, especially if Ware is shaky.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

I remember last year Ware looked great when he'd get a chance, although it was in the preseason. As for Bradshaw, I still think that when he's given enough chances, he'll do just fine. I think that Buffalo game was a preview of what he's capable of

[jnoble]

I'd be real surprised if the Giants broke out a wildcat during the season. We don't really have personnel for it, and Coughlin doesn't seem like a big gimmicks man.

I'd be stunned if the Giants ran a 'Wildcat' play during the season. I'd have to assume like someone else here did that they're only practicing to defend against it.

[thetick130]

Tonight, ESPN. Good luck boys.

[askewcore]

Can't wait to get a look at the boys! Nicks and big Ramses especially...

[ceeps04]

I am real interested to see how the WR core is looks. Obviously losing Plax was huge last year down the stretch, but I refuse to blame the stumbling finish completely on that.
Toomer being gone is an issue for me too because he just always had the ability to make the big catch in the big game with some sort of amazing footwork.

I know Smith won't play, but I will be paying major attention to Moss, Hixon, Barden, Nicks, and Hagan. By the way, that Hixon drop in the Philly playoff game last year still really bothers me.

[askewcore]

I still think not having a true #1 WR is going to hurt this season. You can't expect Steve Smith to produce like he has when he's being guarded by the #1corner on every team. Hixon is okay, but he's a slot man at best (as evidenced by his play against teams with good CBs, like Philly). I'm still upset about losin Toomer as well, I wanted his verteran mindset to help along these young kids. I'm excited by what I been hearing about Hagan and Manningham reallu playing well in practice, but we're still going to have to rely pretty much on un-proven plays at WR all year long.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

http://assets.giants.com/uploads/assets/05_gd_ban_pre2.jpg
5 Things to Watch for Tonight (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2009/08/five-things-to-watch-in-tonigh-1.html)

1. Can Sinorice Moss do it in a game?

The spring sensation has been having a pretty good summer, right up until a hamstring injury knocked him out for a couple of days. But the only way the 5-8 former second-rounder becomes a staple of the Giants’ offense is if he shows some consistency during games. He’ll start tonight with WR Steve Smith out, and he should see plenty of action, at least in the first half. He’s got speed and he’ll flash it, but he needs to prove he can get open and hold onto the ball. The coaching staff is more than willing to give him an opportunity. Is he willing to take it? If not, Mario Manningham and rookie Ramses Barden have been flashing skills right behind him on the depth chart, and they seem more than willing to step up.

2. Are the shackles really off Kenny Phillips?

A year ago we were all overflowing with excitement of how the 2008 first-rounder seemed to be in on every play and approached receivers like a heat-seeking missle. Visions of Brian Dawkins danced in our heads … until the regular season when Phillips disappeared. Now, he says, the coaching staff has unchained him and we’ll see the real Kenny Phillips, attacking the ball and pounding receivers. The secondary will need that help tonight, since both starting corners (Corey Webster, Aaron Ross) are out with injuries. It will be very interesting to see how aggressive Phillips plays and how effective he is.

3. Can Bryan Kehl open more distance between himself and Gerris Wilkinson?

This battle for the weakside linebacker job (until Michael Boley returns) has been one-sided in camp. Kehl makes play after play and is all over the field whenever he’s out there with the first- or second-team. Wilkinson, meanwhile, has been mostly invisible. Add in the fact that the coaches have grown frustrated with Wilkinson and his injuries over the years, while they were dazzled by Kehl’s potential last season, and you can pretty much see which way this one is going. The only real question is whether Chase Blackburn - - who took some first-team reps at WLB last week - - gets into the mix at all. A good performance by Kehl tonight and the coaches might just stop the first-team rotation and declare this competition over. Then the only mystery will be whether Wilkinson can make the final roster.

4. Should we really not read anything into Clint Sintim getting first-team reps ahead of Danny Clark?

That’s what Tom Coughlin told us after he was asked about Sintim, the rookie out of Virginia (second round), getting some first-team time at strong-side linebacker last week. Coughlin explained that at this stage of camp the coaches are just trying different things. Fine, but what if they work? Clark is a solid player, but the Giants believe Sintim’s ceiling is higher. They also think he can be a dangerous pass rusher, which is why they expected him to be a specialist in that role this season, and little more than that. But the transition from his college 3-4 to the Giants’ 4-3 defense hasn’t seemed to bother Sintim as much as expected. Sure, coaches tinker with different things, but they don’t usually tinker with the lineup without a purpose in mind. Maybe Sintim won’t get Clark’s job, but a few big preseason plays could earn him a lot more time on the field.

5. Can David Tyree defy the odds and salvage his Giants career?

Come on now, admit it: You’re rooting for Tyree. How could you not after what he did in Super Bowl XLII? A nice guy (and I’m not just saying that because he went to Syracuse) and a clutch player, he’s fighting a bad numbers game. He’s eighth on a depth chart that will likely eventually carry only six or seven receivers. He’s not having a particularly good training camp either, and his primary competition for the last spot - - Derek Hagan - - is having a terrific summer. But they don’t call Tyree a “gamer” for nothing. He’s a bad practice player who performs when the lights go on. Now he’s going to have to. He has Coughlin in his corner, but the coach is a pragmatist. If Tyree can’t perform, it will be a tough cut for Coughlin to make, but he will cut him. Tyree needs a big performance in these preseason games. Chances are the coaches will make sure he gets plenty of opportunities. It’s a good bet he’ll get a huge cheer from the Giants Stadium crowd every time he makes a catch.

[Mindslayer]

Cool, thx, JD. Im fired up for tonight even though its only a preseason game.

[ceeps04]

Nice solid first half. I still hate Tynes for what he put me through during that Green Bay game championship game regardless of that game winning kick. And his short kickoffs and missed fg tonight just made me remember that.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

holy fucking shit...what a play by Kehl. Sintim looked pretty decent tonight, who was wearing #33? He was looking pretty good.

I didn't realize that Kiwi isn't wearing 97 anymore...apparently he's wearing 94 & Sintim's in 97

Beatty didn't look too bad, Carr held onto the ball a bit much, but no more than he did last year.

[JPetrucci23]

holy fucking shit...what a play by Kehl. Sintim looked pretty decent tonight, who was wearing #33? He was looking pretty good.

I didn't realize that Kiwi isn't wearing 97 anymore...apparently he's wearing 94 & Sintim's in 97

Beatty didn't look too bad, Carr held onto the ball a bit much, but no more than he did last year.

Sintim looked better than decent, he was unblockable! 33 is Allen Patrick, the new #4 RB after Brown got hurt. I agree about Beatty, he looked exactly like a rookie OLT looks in his first game, and both of the sacks on Carr were all on him. He needs to get rid of the damn ball!

all in all, 1st string offense looked good (even with all the players out), and the defense looks like its going to be fucking amazing. Both starting CBs were out, as well as a starting LB, a couple of DTs, and they just didn't miss a beat.

[righty]

went to the game last night. what a way to win a preseason game. JD i was freaking out because i saw 97 and did see kiwi name till someone told me he got 94. Feagles is now 17. Got lucky with the seats sec 109 row 1 behind the Giants, so got some good pics. i might change the pics of o and a. Got look through them first.

[JPetrucci23]

Rocky Bernard is coming off NFI today, sweet.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Nice...hopefully he can get up to speed quickly and get some playing time against the Bears on Saturday

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Anyone familiar with Reby Sky (http://nyc.barstoolsports.com/hot-gallery/wake-up-with-reby-sky/?pid=475)? She's the hot Giants fan...


http://nyc.3432.voxcdn.com/wp-content/gallery/rebytest/Reby_sky1.jpg http://nyc.3432.voxcdn.com/wp-content/gallery/rebytest/reby4.jpg

http://nyc.3432.voxcdn.com/wp-content/gallery/rebytest/Reby-Sky-Rix-Magazine-2.jpg
http://nyc.3432.voxcdn.com/wp-content/gallery/rebytest/Reby_Sky_Playboy_Montauk.jpg
http://nyc.3432.voxcdn.com/wp-content/gallery/rebytest/02000000129.jpg

she's apparently also done Playboy...

[JPetrucci23]

Accoring to a NYT report, Plax agreed to a plea deal. He will plead guilty today and get a 2 year sentence.

[askewcore]

Good, fuck that mook. Him going to jail makes me feel better. I would have been heated if he cut him, and he still ended up playing this year. He'll be a Cowboy in 2011.

[Mindslayer]

Anyone familiar with Reby Sky (http://nyc.barstoolsports.com/hot-gallery/wake-up-with-reby-sky/?pid=475)? She's the hot Giants fan...


http://nyc.3432.voxcdn.com/wp-content/gallery/rebytest/Reby_sky1.jpg http://nyc.3432.voxcdn.com/wp-content/gallery/rebytest/reby4.jpg

http://nyc.3432.voxcdn.com/wp-content/gallery/rebytest/Reby-Sky-Rix-Magazine-2.jpg
http://nyc.3432.voxcdn.com/wp-content/gallery/rebytest/Reby_Sky_Playboy_Montauk.jpg
http://nyc.3432.voxcdn.com/wp-content/gallery/rebytest/02000000129.jpg

she's apparently also done Playboy...


Hmm, not familiar with her but she's very cute...

Anyway, my bro in law and I just got tix from stubhub for the Oct.25th game against Arizona. Payed alot but we got field level seats so we're fired up, plus its a Sunday night game so that makes it even better.

Anyone here going ?

[askewcore]

How much is alot? I really want to get to a game this year, but my only chances are normally when a guy I know who has season tickets doesnt feel like going. I would also love to see Larry Fitz play in person.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Hmm, not familiar with her but she's very cute...

Anyway, my bro in law and I just got tix from stubhub for the Oct.25th game against Arizona. Payed alot but we got field level seats so we're fired up, plus its a Sunday night game so that makes it even better.

Anyone here going ?

I'm goin...I bought FullBallz's season tickets from him :D
his seats are upper deck, but the parking lot and tailgating is still a must. I'm going to every game aside from Dallas

[Mindslayer]

Awesome ! Phenomanal that you got season tix, too.

And yes, tailgaiting is a must. We're already talking about how many cases we should bring.

Also, if anyone's interested, I have two authentic jerseys for sale, a Manning in a size 50 (large) and an LT throwback in a 52 (XL), both brand new and with tags still attached. If youre interested send me a PM.

[ceeps04]

Accoring to a NYT report, Plax agreed to a plea deal. He will plead guilty today and get a 2 year sentence.


Its fucking sad. I will always remember the way that dude played in 5 degree weather in Green Bay. That was as great a performance as you will see in those conditions. A WR can't lead a team to victory but he almost did that day the way he made Al Harris his bitch.

Plax you were a fucking dummy. But us Giants fans will always smile when we watch the slo-mo video of the ball floating in the air and then landing in your hands to win the Super Bowl.

http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2008/02/19/1203454229_9581.jpg

[askewcore]

I
Plax you were a fucking dummy. But us Giants fans will always smile when we watch the slo-mo video of the ball floating in the air and then landing in your hands to win the Super Bowl.

Truer words were never spoken.

ESPN pretty much has him retired already. The only fucking time the Giants have ever had a superstar WR and he shoots himself in the fucking leg by accident and ruins his career. Fuck.

[Mindslayer]

How much is alot? I really want to get to a game this year, but my only chances are normally when a guy I know who has season tickets doesnt feel like going. I would also love to see Larry Fitz play in person.


The tickets we got were about $175, but theyre one section above field level and are on the 40 yd line. Yea, its a bit high, but tix for the same game in the 300 sections were going for only $25 or so less, so we figured for the extra money we'd take the better seats. It'll be the only game we go to all season, though, so we figured fuck it, plus its a BDay gift from my wife, so itsall good.

[righty]

i know it s only preseason but the G Men look like shit right know down 17-0. Eli is still in at 4 45 to go in the second qtr. nice a fumble g men get it. i still hope this only happens in the preseason and it s not what s to come for the season. i know i m over looking it but whatever.

[righty]

well that penalty just saved the shit d fense and that fumble by the Bears helped, but not that the d or o is doing shit. they just got lucky. Yeah i know it s preseason but the 1 st offense and defense were in there for the 1 st half. yeah i m buzzed and crazy over a preseason game but they look like shit.

[NortonsGravyLeg]

Going to be a great season, looking forward to watching all the games at my favorite cigar bar.

[Mindslayer]

Saw the first half and yea, they looked bad, but its preseason so Im not sweating it. As long as they dont have any major injuries between now and the start of the regular season they can lose every game for all I care.

[WarshCloth]

It's like having a very good ground ball pitcher and an infield defense who leads the league in errors.

Eli is gonna look like sh!t this year because you have 9 average to better then average WR's.

If Jacobs goes down the Giants are gonna have a top 10 pick this year...

[righty]

just found out got tickets to the giants vs jets and i didnt have to pay for them. probally sec 109 row1 which i will never get in the regular season.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Saw the first half and yea, they looked bad, but its preseason so Im not sweating it. As long as they dont have any major injuries between now and the start of the regular season they can lose every game for all I care.
Yeah, they looked sluggish and lazy on Saturday night, but it happens. I saw Jay Alford go off on a cart though in the 3rd quarter :icon_conf

Here we go...bad news all around

Chris Canty's been out with a hamstring injury...it's actually torn, not strained (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2009/08/canty-still-out-with-torn-hams.html)

As for Jay Alford, ACL-MCL combo. (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2009/08/bad-news-for-alford-two-torn-l.html) Goodbye depth along the DL :icon_conf:icon_conf:icon_conf

[Mindslayer]

Looks like Rocky Bernard may end up being a starter after all.

[righty]

the weather is going to suck for tommorrow game. Looks like i ll be getting wet. hopefully the Giants look better. That might not happen because of the weather. found out tickets are different seats, sec 127 row 6. well that sucks about canty, sign him for 6 yrs and he hasnt even practice.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Anyone see previews for Big Fan (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1228953/) with Patton Oswalt?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-i42Mrw3no

it looks pretty good

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Also, according to The Blue Screen (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2009/08/tyree-bracing-for-last-hurrah.html), Tyree fully expects Thursday night against the Patriots to be his last game with the Giants
Do I want to be here? Yeah. There’s no place I’d rather be. But you need to be on the field to be evaluated

also, Giants cut CB Stoney Woodson (7th round pick), OL - Terrance Pennington, & WR Taye Biddle

[askewcore]

I had heard some good things about Woodson, I'm surprised they outright cut him, thought he would at least end up on the P Squad.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

So apparently Osi chose to be a bitch and skipped out on practice yesterday. Turns out he has a difference of opinion/philosophy with DC Sheridan. An "anonymous source" said...
It's camp fatigue. They spent way too much time together this summer.
then he came back and apologized later
I made a mistake by leaving the facility today. I was wrong. I came in here this afternoon and met with coach Coughlin, coach Sheridan and coach Waufle and apologized and explained why I left the building; that will remain between us. I have no problem with our defensive coordinator Bill Sheridan or any of our coaches. That’s the end of it, as far as I am concerned

They put Andre Brown on IR and cut TE Lee Vickers and waived/injured OL Andrew Carnahan. That puts them down to 74 guys on their roster...so they expect to make a waiver claim on someone later today

[FullBallz]

The whole Osi thing was just a one day blow up where he left to blow off some steam and keep from punching Sheridan in the face. They had a sit-down with Coughlin, aired it out, and back onto the field. Shit happens when you're at work. This is one of those things. Difference is that the media doesn't cover your job. Non-story to me.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Yeah, that was more or less my take on it as well. I just want to hear some good injury news...so far it's been nothing but shit. Canty & Ross are still out with hammy injuries

[ceeps04]

I happened to be up in Bridgeport this weekend so I got a chance to see the game against the Jets and I gotta say I am alot more nervous after this one than I was after the Carolina game about the Wr position.

The drop by Smith on the bomb sent me into a traumatic flashback of Hixon from the Eagles playoff game. I live in D.C. so I have been talking shit with Skins fans since the schedule came out about the game next week. And all conversations/shit talking on their part always winds up with a Plaxico mention. I always point out the Giants beat both Super Bowl teams and the Skins on the roaad without Plax last year so the other Wr's on the team are fully capable. And with a run game that the Giants have everything will be fine.

But amongst other Giants fans I have to say I am fucking nervous about this season at that postion. I can't wait till next fucking Sunday. If this group is going to do anything this year, doing it against a top 5 defense of the SKins with 3 quality corners Smoot, Rogers and Hall is the way to do it.

There is nothing like opening the season with back to back NFC East Games.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Yes it's preseason but Boss looks damned good after those two catches. Stoked I drafted him. Moss made a nice catch, but the running game looked like shit. Too bad there's no starters from NE out there on defense

[askewcore]

Too bad there's no starters from NE out there on defense

Moss using his hands to catch the ball instead of his chest was a great thing to see. He ran that route really well on the 2nd TD also. The catch and run by Nicks was great, I'm startin to like him, I think he might be similar to a slightly faster Ike Hilliard.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

http://www.ushistory.org/us/images/00012268.jpg


all in all, a good first half. Hopefully we don't have to ever go that deep into our bench during the season because the 3rd stringers look like dogfuck

[iSpeakEloquent]

i know they are fast and established but i think hixon and smith should be below nicks and moss on the depth chart. I know nicks will and i hope that moss proves himself in the next few weeks to a point where they are the ones catching the deep pass and its not smith and/or hixon dropping it.

[askewcore]

i know they are fast and established but i think hixon and smith should be below nicks and moss on the depth chart. I know nicks will and i hope that moss proves himself in the next few weeks to a point where they are the ones catching the deep pass and its not smith and/or hixon dropping it.

I think Smith should still be the #1, Nicks should be 2, Hixon 3 and Moss 4. Any starting CBs in the league will eat Moss' lunch, his only chance is to match up on a nickel or dime corner, or a LB or slow safety.

[iSpeakEloquent]

i think smith is more valuable as a #3, like the guy that no one pays attention to. Him being a #1 or #2 i think hurts him

[ceeps04]

The roster is set. Kind of surprised they cut Patrick and are only going with 3 Rb's. Also it seems even more insane to me that they are only going with 3 safeties. But have 10 OL and 7 WR. Thought Hagan or Moss would have been cut.


THE RUNNING ROSTER (53 plus Boley)

QBs (2): Eli Manning and David Carr

RBs (3): Brandon Jacobs, Ahmad Bradshaw, Danny Ware

FB (1): Madison Hedgecock

WRs (7): Domenik Hixon, Steve Smith, Mario Manningham, Sinorice Moss, Derek Hagan, Hakeem Nicks, Ramses Barden

TEs (3): Kevin Boss, Darcy Johnson, Travis Beckum

OLs (10): David Diehl, Rich Seubert, Shaun O'Hara, Chris Snee, Kareem McKenzie, Kevin Boothe, Adam Koets, Guy Whimper, William Beatty, Tutan Reyes

DLs (9): Justin Tuck, Osi Umeyiora, Mathias Kiwanuka, Barry Cofield, Fred Robbins, Chris Canty, Rocky Bernard, Leger Douzable, Dave Tollefson

LBs (8): Antonio Pierce, Danny Clark, Clint Sintim, Chase Blackburn, Jonathan Goff, Bryan Kehl, Gerris Wilkinson, Zak DeOssie

CBs (5): Aaron Ross, Corey Webster, Kevin Dockery, Terrell Thomas, Bruce Johnson

S (3): Kenny Phillips, Michael Johnson, C.C. Brown

K (1): Lawrence Tynes

P (1): Jeff Feagles

Suspended LB (1): Michael Boley

[Jimmy's Dignity]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-aKfTK2LiM
Gonna miss you Tyree...here's to hoping that Derek Hagan can cover punts as well as he could.

Too bad Rhett Bomar didn't make it...I wonder if he's going to at least stay with the Practice Squad. It'll probably be tough for him to make it through waivers.

Hopefully Woodson doesn't give up too much info to the Redskins for this weekend. I wouldn't be shocked if he gets cut by them after the game.

[askewcore]

I'm surprised they cut Woodson, but not surprised Washington picked him up for this week. Smart move, fuckers. I liked Woodson in college and hope he gets a chance somewhere outside of our division so I can root for him.

So fucking amped up for Sunday already...

[Jimmy's Dignity]

yeah, I'm pretty geeked up for it too...

Practice Squad (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/#ixzz0QXL1al60)
RB Allen Patrick

QB Rhett Bomar

S Vince Anderson

CB DeAndre Wright

S Sha’reff Rashad

DT Anthony Bryant

And the two newcomers …

FB Nehemiah Broughton

TE Kareem Brown


HAHAHAHAHHAHA (http://nyc.barstoolsports.com/random-thoughts/brooklyn-teen-blows-his-dick-off-plaxico-style/)
Brooklyn Teen Blows His Dick Off, Plaxico Style
http://nyc.3432.voxcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/burress2.jpg

NY Post (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/regional/brooklyn/so_much_for_packing_um_rod_jXKO6I6jK3RgVNDNWClDoI) - It’s a lesson he should have learned from Plaxico Burress — but this was worse. A 15-year-old Brooklyn boy shot himself in the penis Sunday after fumbling with a gun that had slid from his waistband, authorities said yesterday. Khamir Grant was then arrested for reckless endangerment and criminal possession of a weapon — the same charges levied against Burress, who shot himself at a Manhattan nightclub in 2008, law-enforcement sources said. Grant told cops that he was walking home from Amersfort Park at East 39th Street and Avenue J in East Flatbush around 1:30 a.m., when the gun began to fall into his pants, sources said. When Grant grabbed for it, he accidentally pulled the trigger, firing a bullet right through his penis. Grant staggered home and told his mom what had happened, sources said. They took a livery car to Kings County Hospital, where Grant was released after treatment and then arrested by police.

I don’t know what’s worse – shooting your dick off with a gun or limping home to your mom and having to tell her you shot your dick off with a gun. Actually, scratch that, blowing your dick off with a firearm is definitely worse. Like just about the worst thing you can do to yourself. If I ever destroy my penis like that I’m taking that gun and immediately putting a bullet right in the back of my head.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

I'm going to the game today! Go Blue!

[Steam]

The game is still six hours away and I've been up for three hours in anticipation. Normally I don't get fully invested until after the Yankees season.

I need to get a new home jersey too. The Shockey one just isn't going to cut it anymore.

[ceeps04]

Living in DC, nothing makes me happier than a beatdown of the Redskins. Fucking Skin fans are so delusional every year and the fact that I have at least 3 months of shit talking ahead of me until the next game is phenomenal.

Now a win next week over the Cowboys to open up their new stadium would be about the greatest thing ever. Love to see Osi back, Manningham stepping up to make plays and Tynes able to kick som long fg's.

If the Cowboys D looks anything like they did today against the Giants Run game I think it could be pretty ugly for them. Hope Ross plays next week cause we are going to need better play against Romo. With the Ware injury we obviously are going to need another Rb on the 53 man roster and with Nicks injury, Moss and Hixon need to step up.

[lockjaaaaww]

The game is still six hours away and I've been up for three hours in anticipation. Normally I don't get fully invested until after the Yankees season.



I enjoyed the beging of last season more because yanks were completely out of the race this time of the year, so I was more interested in football.

[SurlyTruckDrivr]

The game is still six hours away and I've been up for three hours in anticipation. Normally I don't get fully invested until after the Yankees season.

I need to get a new home jersey too. The Shockey one just isn't going to cut it anymore.
yeah, I could use a few new jerseys myself. I have a home and away Shockey, road Toomer and a very old road Sehorn. Time for something new. I'm thinking Tuck or Usi.

If I can pull the money out of my ass, I'm gonna try to head to the Tampa game down here in two weeks, been a while since I've been to a Giants game. Unfortunately I'm fucking broke these days.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Nicks out for 2-3 weeks (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2009/09/initial-diagnosis-nicks-out-2-.html)

Initial diagnosis: Nicks out 2-3 weeks

The Giants will anxiously await the results of the MRI on Hakeem Nicks’ “sprained” left foot tomorrow morning, however according to an NFL source the initial expectation is that the rookie receiver will be out 2-3 weeks.

That, of course, is only the preliminary diagnosis. Though the source, who has been briefed on Nicks’ injury, did insist that “He will be OK”, he also added that Nicks and the Giants were “hoping for the best.” It appears that the Giants do not believe that Nicks suffered a Lis Franc injury, only that he suffered a “sprain.”

X-Rays were negative, but that is the case sometimes when a Lis Franc injury occurs.

Even 2-3 weeks is a blow to Nicks, who suffered through a strained hamstring in camp and hoped to get off to a fast start this season. It continues a terrible run of luck for Giants rookie receivers over the last 2 1/2 decades. Nicks looked like he had a chance to become the first rookie to catch more than 16 passes for the Giants since 1984.

[askewcore]

That's not so bad, all things considered. When I saw the replay, I thought he blew his achilles and would be done, Ike Hilliard style (Achillies, not neck, but you get it).

Toomer got cut by KC.....

We also need a third RB. Did Warrick Dunn catch on anywhere? He could be a good third down back, you know he'll be able to pick up blitzes and whatnot.

[ceeps04]

Toomer got cut by KC.....

I watched on t.v. and saw Toomer on the sideline yesterday in a shirt and tie in the background during one of the replays. Don't know what it means, he couldv'e been doing media work for someone but this reminded me when I your sentence. Think we have enough depth at WR we don't need to sign him. As for RB I guess Patrick would be the guy to go to for #3.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Patrick really impressed me during the preseason, I think he'd be the cheapest/best option for us to do.

After MRI, Nicks out 2-3 weeks (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2009/09/source-after-mri-nicks-still-o.html)



The initial diagnosis of rookie WR Hakeem Nicks was that he suffered only a sprained left foot and would be out 2-3 weeks. According to an NFL source who spoke with Nicks today, that diagnosis is the same even after he underwent and MRI.

According to the source, the MRI seemed to rule out the dreaded Lis Franc injury - a fracture or dislocation of the ligaments in the Lis Franc joint on the top of the foot - which could’ve sidelined Nicks for the entire season. Nicks said after the game that most of the pain he was feeling was on the bottom of his foot, though Tom Coughlin said the trainers told him there were issues on both the bottom and the top.

Though it’s not known where the sprain is, doctors apparently have told Nicks he could expect to be out 2-3 weeks. It’s possible that he could be out a little longer, depending on how quickly he heals, but it’s not likely he’d be back before that time frame ends.

alas, Ross is still going to be out next week against Dallas :mad4:

[Jimmy's Dignity]

my brother-in-law's engineering firm is building the new stadium...and last week a friend of his who is the head engineer wrote a bunch of last names in the concrete that's going to be under the turf

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/7324/centerslab1.jpg

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/1103/centerslab.jpg

bro-in-law = Memmel
me = Long

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Giants signed Gartrell Johnson from the Chargers. 5'11" 218lbs...apparently is primarily an inside short-yardage back. Instead of promoting Allen Patrick...they cut him from the practice squad. Danny Ware is supposed to be out for 2 weeks with his dislocated elbow.

Webster gets schooled on right and wrong (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2009/09/webster-gets-schooled-on-fight.html)

Giants cornerback Corey Webster is one of the last guys anyone on the team would expect to get into an on-field fight, but that’s exactly what happened early in the second quarter on Sunday. Webster got into a slapping/shoving match with Redskins receiver Santanta Moss.

And his actions earned him a personal foul and got him in a little post-game hot water.

No, not with Tom Coughlin … with Webster’s 4-year-old nephew.

Webster, upon his return to the locker room, noticed a text from his nephew’s father that read “Your nephew wants to talk to you about the fight.” It wasn’t a phone call that Webster was looking forward to.

“You never want to display nothing like that on the field,” Webster said. “I don’t know how everybody else feels, but I have a little boy that’s four, my nephew that’s four and a nephew that’s six, and my nephew called me up and said ‘That’s not right.’ So I have to have a conversation with him when he gets off from school. It’s like he’s the parent. He’s trying to tell me it’s not right.”

Webster said it wasn’t easy to figure out what to say to his nephew, especially when he knew he was wrong. It may have been unavoidable and it’s true that “It’s in the heat of battle and things like that happen,” Webster said. It’s also true that Webster only responded to Moss, who was the instigator. Webster said he tried to avoid swinging back because “I know in that situation we only have three corners so I don’t want to do anything to jeopardize my team.”

Webster also earned some points for not swinging after Moss’ helmet popped off. But as his nephew told him, those points only go so far because wrong is wrong. There’s really no getting around that, especially when it comes to setting an example for kids.

“That didn’t look good,” Webster said. “I understand.”

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Both Canty & Aaron Ross are out for Sunday night

[righty]

i don't like the way the offense is playing. the d is doing ok. the whole team needs to step it up. Let Go Giants!

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

tight game so far, but i agree that the offense needs to step up. glad to see the Giants defense making Romo pay for his mistakes. too bad to see Hixon on the bench with a knee sprain. now Tuck is coming out after that tripping penalty.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

that's a touchdown. it bounced off Witten's foot.

[Ballbuster1]

I hate having to root for the Giants but I love to see Dallas get beat.

[Chino Kapone]

That SHOULD be a touchdown. Pretty sad about the missed touchdown. Romo can't handle the pressure.

[Ballbuster1]

Nice!

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

TOUCHDOWN to Manningham!

[righty]

that was a it and a td but fuck it that was a nice td.

[Chino Kapone]

Helluva catch. Anyone get the total attendance of the game? I heard JJ was estimating he could break the record for largest attendance at a pro sporting event ever.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

that was a it and a td but fuck it that was a nice td.

yeah, i was worried that they wouldn't be able to capitalize off that with the way the offense has been playing tonight. but Manning manages to connect with Manningham to make up for the refs calling that play dead.

and jesus, can that massive screen be any bigger? i saw the photo of it in Sports Illustrated and couldn't believe how big it is.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

Helluva catch. Anyone get the total attendance of the game? I heard JJ was estimating he could break the record for largest attendance at a pro sporting event ever.

might be 20 or 30 people, Chino.

[lockjaaaaww]

I wana see a do over. Stupid faggot dallas can't get a stadium right.

[NuttyJim]

I dunno...we looked like shit other than getting the turnovers. Osi gave up a big penalty. I am hoping for a better 2nd half. Atleast we're up. I fucking hate the Cowboys

[Chino Kapone]

might be 20 or 30 people, Chino.

Perhaps more than... you know the line. :)

[righty]

well wasn't the greatest 1 st half but i 'll take it. i hope they come out with a kick ass attitude the 2 nd half. LET'S GO GIANTS!

[lockjaaaaww]

Helluva catch. Anyone get the total attendance of the game? I heard JJ was estimating he could break the record for largest attendance at a pro sporting event ever.

thats no very impressive because isn't it the biggest stadium ever? Its like the fact that fenway has the most consecutive sell-outs when the stadium is easily the smallest in baseball. You give a good team a big enough stadium and they'll probably set the record sooner or later.

[lockjaaaaww]

well wasn't the greatest 1 st half but i 'll take it. i hope they come out with a kick ass attitude the 2 nd half. LET'S GO GIANTS!

20-17 isn't terrible, but it isn't pretty neither; but giants are on top and I guess thats what matters.

[Chino Kapone]

thats no very impressive because isn't it the biggest stadium ever? Its like the fact that fenway has the most consecutive sell-outs when the stadium is easily the smallest in baseball. You give a good team a big enough stadium and they'll probably set the record sooner or later.

Maybe, but I believe he may even break the college record as well. Like 120,000 +.

I dunno, whatever. I just want the Giant's to beat the crap outta Dallas. I can't stand Romo.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

Jacobs getting back into this game. the Cowboys D was doing a great job of restraining Jacobs in the first half. hopefully this will get some good momentum going for the running game.

[NuttyJim]

Eli looks like shit tonight. Manningham is having a hell of a season so far. So much for those trade rumors to Cleveland!

[lockjaaaaww]

No good,Damn it I hate when that happens!!

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

damn it. a good drive and it's wasted.

[righty]

i m getting tired of the eli look of old. come on Giants

[NuttyJim]

anyone else miss Plaxico?

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

anyone else miss Plaxico?

pretty much every Giants fan misses Plaxico. too bad dummy shot himself.

[lockjaaaaww]

anyone else miss Plaxico?

I think everyone started missing him when the giants started sucking in the playoffs last year. If only the big dummy wore pants, everyone knows don't wear sweatpants if you got a gun on ya.

[NuttyJim]

they need to cut out the running game...not working so well. I'm very surprised they made that pass interference call. I thought they were gonna let it go..but atleast we got it.

[righty]

fucking g men get a lucky p i call and can't do shit with it. fuck me god dammit.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

goddamnit. Barber's running all over them.

[lockjaaaaww]

Eli fucked up that throw. Now its 4th down.

[lockjaaaaww]

Interception!!!

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

another Romo fuckup. how are they still on top with all these huge mistakes?

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

Manningham again!

[righty]

fucking come on g men!

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

wow did Smith shake him! Giants back on top.

[righty]

fuckin a yeah. sorry but the giants don't miss plax.

[lockjaaaaww]

I was watching the whole game on regular channel 4, then I thought I should watch this on HD. While looking for the HD version of channel 4 I stumble upon aspecial on the porn industry, so of course it takes me a lil while to turn back to the game and when I did g-men are kicking the extra point. Damn you porn!!

[righty]

f plax go manni whatever.

[righty]

fuckity fuck fuck well a fieldgoal will do lets go d fense

[lockjaaaaww]

ahhh shit.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

okay, Dallas up by one with a little over 3 minutes on the clock. best plan for the Giants right now is to grind the ball to kill a little more time and get in field goal range.

[righty]

they better fucking do something on o ffense.

[Chino Kapone]

Does Manning know how to pump fake?

[lockjaaaaww]

Giants need to get a nice run together and not kill them selfs with penaltys. So far its 0-2.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

Eli loves these 2-minute drills.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

and we're in field goal range. i can't stess how awesome Manningham has been tonight.

[righty]

fucking time out my ass

[lockjaaaaww]

Win!!

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

hahahaha fuck you and your fancy stadium, Dallas. 2 straight division wins for the Giants.

[righty]

what a fucking game. now i gotta try to wake up at 4 30 fuck me. hey at least i ll go to work hungover and happy.

[NuttyJim]

what a bullshit move by wade phillips...what a fucking prick. fuck the cowgirls...GO G-Men. I hope Romo is crippled by syphillis.

[ceeps04]

I don't care. Eli is the fucking man. I had all the confidence in the world on him leading that drive. Last playoff game in Texas Stadium. Loss to Giants. 1st Game in that new place. Loss to Giants. Bitches. HAHAHAHAHA!!!

[lockjaaaaww]

Good game, I especially love the Giants fucking up cowboys first game at their stupid new stadium.

[NuttyJim]

fuck that stadium, i hope it falls to the ground.

[BCH]

w00t!

[lockjaaaaww]

unrelated but Theres still new billy mays commercials. I miss that guy.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

hell of a game. it was a lot closer than it should have been. with Romo's mistakes and the Giants repeatedly botching red zone chances, it was a tight game throughout.

[righty]

fuck yeah ! the g men better wake up. eli rules under pressure. i wish they could go no huddle all season like the bills, because that s when they do there best.

[NuttyJim]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2549/3802604224_e7ac90811c.jpgunrelated but Theres still new billy mays commercials. I miss that guy.

[iSpeakEloquent]

yeah, i was worried that they wouldn't be able to capitalize off that with the way the offense has been playing tonight. but Manning manages to connect with Manningham to make up for the refs calling that play dead.


i can see the manning to manningham promotions now...let me see if i can find my earth wind and fire or thunder and lightning tshirts

thats no very impressive because isn't it the biggest stadium ever? Its like the fact that fenway has the most consecutive sell-outs when the stadium is easily the smallest in baseball. You give a good team a big enough stadium and they'll probably set the record sooner or later.

the giants would, idk how big the new one is (it looks huge) but the giants have a 40 year waiting list...which im 5 years into

fuckin a yeah. sorry but the giants don't miss plax.

true, they miss him where manning can't through shit and have him bring it down, now he has to make accurate throws but smith and manningham get open a lot. I am putting in my order for a manningham jersey now, anyone know the best place to get one?

[LBF]

Anytime the Cowboys lose it makes me happy. Anytime Tony Romo throws multiple interceptions I am happy. Anytime Jerry Jones looks like he just shat his pants I am happy. Tonight's game made me very happy.

[askewcore]

I don't care. Eli is the fucking man. I had all the confidence in the world on him leading that drive. Last playoff game in Texas Stadium. Loss to Giants. 1st Game in that new place. Loss to Giants. Bitches. HAHAHAHAHA!!!

This. As soon as Dallas scored I said, "It's okay, Eli will get us down the field to win with a field goal." That's what he does. People like to shit on him because he doesn't put up good numbers, but he wins games when it matters. i'll take his 54% completion percentange and a win over all the sexy stats in the worlds that Rivers and Romo put up. Fantasy Football is ruining actual Football because people act like guys are good if they put up nice numbers in fantasy.

Can't wait to get to back Giants Stadium South next year and romp the Cowboys again.

I wish the would have shown Jerry Jones in his luxury box after the loss like they did everytime Dallas scored. Fucking jizzbag.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Good God was that a thing of beauty. The D did not look good in the 2nd half, losing Tuck & not having Canty there hurt, but hopefully they get healthy & come back ASAP. Manningham & Smith looked fantastic last night, I'm loving the young WR's.

How long until ESPN's talking heads say that the win was basically a fluke? :rolleyes:

2-0, 2-0 in the Division :D :jump
hell of a game. it was a lot closer than it should have been. with Romo's mistakes and the Giants repeatedly botching red zone chances, it was a tight game throughout.

yeah, that was one major problem...going into the red zone like that and only coming out with 9 points was a major issue. What's the deal with the running game? Jacobs just hasn't gotten started yet at all. He's not an outside running back, slam him between the tackles. Wear down their DL, then have Bradshaw beat them to the outside

[Ball of Hate]

Yeah...I kept looking up, asking to nobody in particular, "Where the hell is Jacobs??"

And I'm sorry - but Osi got exposed once Tuck went down. The Cowboys ran like a mile on the Giants once he went down. I hope Tuck doesn't miss much time...they need him.

[askewcore]

The problems in the red zone really were concerning. It was partly due to Dallas stuffing the running game, so that kind of took away playaction down there but still, it was not good. I dont see why they dont put Barden or Beckham in and let Eli throw the back shoulder fade to them, that's one of his best throws. And I can't agree with you more about running Jacobs wide, they run that stupid stretch play to him once a game, and it never works, by the time Eli gets over to him and he turns his body upfield to get going, he's tackled and dropped for a loss.

Any news on Tuck? The pass rush really suffered without him. That was a patchwork defense we won with yesterday too. No Canty, No Ross, No Tuck, Boley's first game with us (he played very well too).

And I'm sorry - but Osi got exposed once Tuck went down. The Cowboys ran like a mile on the Giants once he went down. I hope Tuck doesn't miss much time...they need him.

They ran away from Osi mostly though, right at Kiwi. Then Coughlin pulled Kiwi for Tollefson and we had no pass rush. (or run d, because Tollefson is not very good)

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Tollefson isn't very good yet...I do like him though. He'll keep someone fresh and is usually effective for a drive or so...not a full game though

I liked Boley, he looked good when he was in there. And he's rockin #52, so that's nice...

[nataskaos]

Yeah...I kept looking up, asking to nobody in particular, "Where the hell is Jacobs??"

And I'm sorry - but Osi got exposed once Tuck went down. The Cowboys ran like a mile on the Giants once he went down. I hope Tuck doesn't miss much time...they need him.

is there some thing in place in the league where if a guy takes a dude out with an illegal move, he gets fined or suspended or something. That dude that tripped tuck was beat all day. Cock sucker. If JT misses anymore time, it feels like that dude should pay.

[askewcore]

Tollefson isn't very good yet...I do like him though. He'll keep someone fresh and is usually effective for a drive or so...not a full game though

Yeah, he serves his purpose pefectly, but when too much is asked of him (like yesterday) he's not real good. But he's white, so he gets a pass....

is there some thing in place in the league where if a guy takes a dude out with an illegal move, he gets fined or suspended or something. That dude that tripped tuck was beat all day. Cock sucker. If JT misses anymore time, it feels like that dude should pay.

To my knowledge, no there is not. But that really was an ultra-scumbag move. Flozell Adams has always been a dirty lineman though, I can see sometimes your footwork will trip a guy up, but that was blatant. A few years ago, Brian Dawkins took out Shockey for like most of the season with a cheap shot, and I dont remember him getting fined or anything for it.

[askewcore]

I realize I'm being a double posting ass right now, but I just wanted to sing Kenny Phillips' praises a little. He was banged up all week and played through the pain and had a sick game. Two picks and he was all over the field making plays. This kid could be something special.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

I think Kenny's probably going to be playing all season w/ that knee injury. I'm guessing he's going to have to get it 'scoped in the offseason, but I hope not. That pass that was off Witten's heel was awesome, shitty that they blew it dead though. When I watched the replay, I didn't hear a whistle at all

[Papagolash]

I'm thinking of getting a Giants jersey, think I'd get a Feagles jersey, don't think I've ever seen anyone wearing one.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

I love getting jerseys that no one would ever have/wear

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Tuck pissed at Flozell (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2009/09/tuck-ticked-but-ready-for-tamp.html)
Justin Tuck’s injured left shoulder was still hurting after last night’s game. And he absolutely blamed Cowboys left tackle Flozell Adams for what he called a “bush league” play.

Tuck hurt his shoulder in the first half of the Giants’ 33-31 win when he appeared to beat Adams with an inside move and the tackle stuck out his right leg and tripped him. At first it appeared that Tuck injured his right knee - - which is where Adams’ kick hit him. But Tuck actually fell awkwardly on his left shoulder and hurt it bad enough that he left Cowboys Stadium wearing a sling.

“I think it was bush league,” Tuck said when asked what he thought of the play. “He did it a few times in that game. Unfortunately he didn’t get called the other times.”

Asked if he wanted to see Adams punished, Tuck said “I would’ve liked to have the rest of the game to punish him for that, but it didn’t happen.”

Tuck said Adams is known around the league for that “bush league” maneuver. “He’s athletic so he can make it look like an accident. But when it happens to you over and over again …”

As for the injury, Tuck said that he was “fine” but that his shoulder “hurts”

“All that matters is that I’m playing next week,” Tuck said. “You can believe I’ll be there. Just write that it hurts.”

Round 2: Jacobs vs. Columbo

RB Brandon Jacobs had a rough game that apparently got a little worse after the final gun, when he was apparently shoved from behind by Cowboys RT Marc Columbo at some point during the postgame handshake.

Jacobs, who at first declined to talk to the media but later relented, didn’t seem to know why Columbo hit him, but he obviously wasn’t happy. “I better not see him anywhere,” an angry Jacobs said.

Asked what he would do if he did see Columbo, Jacobs said “I’m just going to let him know that it was a real disrespectful thing for him to do.”

Hixon misses last three quarters

Giants WR Domenik HIxon suffered what the team called a sprained knee during the first quarter last night. He did not return to the game, though he was eventually back on the sidelines. Tom Coughlin said he had no updates on any of the injuries after the game.

[Papagolash]

I love getting jerseys that no one would ever have/wear


That's the thing though, Feagles is amazing punter who holds numerous records, and IMO is a hall of famer. You'd think people would recognize that and get Feagles jerseys.

[askewcore]

That's the thing though, Feagles is amazing punter who holds numerous records, and IMO is a hall of famer. You'd think people would recognize that and get Feagles jerseys.

He's also one of the biggest weapons the Giants have. He's money inside the 20 everytime we punt from bad field position. Less than inside the 10 is almost surprising when he punts from around midfield.

No one appreciates that shit, though. Just like the O-line. You almost never see an offensive lineman jersey except for the occasional Snee.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

That's the thing though, Feagles is amazing punter who holds numerous records, and IMO is a hall of famer. You'd think people would recognize that and get Feagles jerseys.

He really is...I'm amazed that last year was only the 2nd time he'd ever made the Pro Bowl. He may not have the longest punts, but he's got to have the best return yards against...and dude's like 42

[iSpeakEloquent]

is there some thing in place in the league where if a guy takes a dude out with an illegal move, he gets fined or suspended or something. That dude that tripped tuck was beat all day. Cock sucker. If JT misses anymore time, it feels like that dude should pay.

whether he is hurt or not he should pay, intent to injure a player can not happen

I realize I'm being a double posting ass right now, but I just wanted to sing Kenny Phillips' praises a little. He was banged up all week and played through the pain and had a sick game. Two picks and he was all over the field making plays. This kid could be something special.

phillips was good but romo was throwing ints like the dbs were wearing cowboys jerseys

I love getting jerseys that no one would ever have/wear

in my closet: sehorn, charles way, tiki, Mike Barrow, Lavaar Arrington

im thinking of getting a manningham but feagles sounds kinda cool


No one appreciates that shit, though. Just like the O-line. You almost never see an offensive lineman jersey except for the occasional Snee.

i do see a lot of o'hara jerseys

[Jimmy's Dignity]

I've got a white Snee :D

in my closet: sehorn, charles way, tiki, Mike Barrow, Lavaar ArringtonWay!!! He fucking ruled...in 1997, he was unstoppable

i do see a lot of o'hara jerseysThe benefits of him being from Rutgers

[iSpeakEloquent]

charles way was the best because he didn't run guys over he carried them on his back

[JPetrucci23]

One of the best moves I have ever seen a WR make

http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx64/tomapot/154hz69-1.gif

http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx64/tomapot/34i2zgo.gif

[Jimmy's Dignity]

That was just plain sick.

couple good points from Ralph Vacchiano
Not to put a damper on the excitement, but the Giants’ 0-for-5 performance in the red zone (0 for 8, now, on the season) nearly cost them this game. They’ve got to figure out a way to move the ball and score down there. I thought they were going to get creative early when rookie TE Travis Beckum was on the field for their first trip inside the red zone. But Kevin Gilbride’s plays were predictable. And, come on: Dusting off a red-zone swing pass to FB Madison Hedgecock instead of running a fade to 6-6 rookie Ramses Barden? I know Barden isn’t ready for a big role, but would it really be difficult to line him up in the slot and say “Run a fade to the back corner…then use your 7-foot-plus reach to catch the damn ball”?

43-year-old Jeff Feagles landed three of his five punts inside the 20, including one that went out of bounds at the 5. I keep saying this, so I might as well say it again: He’s better and more consistent at his specific job than any athlete I’ve ever covered. I’d say the Giants should reti re his number, but he think he’s worn five different ones in his seven years with the team.

[askewcore]

One of the best moves I have ever seen a WR make

It really was. And it makes it even better because they sweat Scandrick, and he's not that good.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Oh and as if you guys had any reason to love Jacobs more....


Jacobs sounds off on Jerry Jones: Last week, running back Brandon Jacobs told me that the Cowboys should have scheduled the Lions instead of the Giants for the stadium opener. And Sunday, he tried to explain to me where his hatred for the Cowboys comes from.

"I hate the Cowboys straight up," Jacobs told me. "It's beginning to be a personal thing. And it's been like that since I was a kid. I've been wishing bad things on them for a long time. I was a hateful little kid. Everyone loves them, so I had to hate them."

Asked what he thought about the new stadium, Jacobs said: "It's a beautiful place. It was nice of Jerry to invite us down here. But he better be careful what he asks for next time. Last year, [Jones] said he wanted to play us on Broadway, and then he got his ass beat. They got whooped 35-14 on Broadway."

[askewcore]

He's the fucking man. And the fact that he said, "I been wishing bad things on them for a long time" fucking rules. Can't wait till we play them again and JT can get some revenge on that fat cunt Flozell Adams. And I'm glad he (Tuck) acknowledged that everyone knows Adams is a dirty playing scumbag.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Hahaha, look at these fucking tools...

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0909/nfl.fans.week2/images/cowboys-fans(02).jpg

$2,300 to watch the Giants crush your hopes. That's awesome

[askewcore]

I never understand how people make signs that are not spelled correctly. And none of his stupid fucking friends said, "Hey Rufus, you spelled 'tickets' wrong, stupid."

I thought paying $400 for the Yankees home opener was a little crazy, at least it's only 20 minutes from my house, this douchebag came from several states away to watch those humps.

[Chino Kapone]

Hahaha, look at these fucking tools...

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0909/nfl.fans.week2/images/cowboys-fans(02).jpg

$2,300 to watch the Giants crush your hopes. That's awesome

What are ticets? "whaa"

[Jimmy's Dignity]

What are ticets? "whaa"

I dunno, but apparently they cost $1,200 :icon_eek:

the funny thing is it wasn't even like he was running out of room on the sign...he just fucking sucked at life

[askewcore]

He also has the $ after the number itself, and really had to squeeze in "Seein the Cowboys homeopene...."

His mother is his aunt. Cut him some slack.

And the guy over his shoulder (screen right) looks like he needs to notify his neighbors when he moves to a new town. He looks like a deluxe creepmo.

Knowing that the Giants spoiled this guys day makes me proud to be a Big Blue fan.

[JPetrucci23]

What are ticets? "whaa"


i think ticets are whats in your sig gif!

[LBF]

One of the best moves I have ever seen a WR make



Gotta love it when a WR knows how to sell a hitch-and-go.




I'm not even a Giants fan and I love Brandon Jacobs. He played college ball about 30 minutes from my hometown so I got to see him a few times when I was back visiting. Dude was an absolute monster at the I-AA level.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Awesome...Tuck has a partially torn labrum (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/2009/09/23/2009-09-23_giant_secret.html), but doesn't need any surgery apparently. He may sit out this week vs. Tampa. Apparently he had the same injury while at Notre Dame, missed two weeks of spring practice & then aggravated it during the season, but was fine over all.

Tuck may wear a harness and play however

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Flozell Adams fined $12,500 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4498060)...but is a cunt

A shoulder injury? From a supposed kick? Tell him to stay up. It ain't my fault.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

This is no good (http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2009/09/ny_giants_safety_kenny_phillip_2.html)

"People are saying" that Kenny Phillips may be out for the season

[askewcore]

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK.

The most questionable part of the defense where we have the worst depth and we lose one of our biggest playmakers. Shit in my mouth. Any news when Ross will be back?

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Ross & Dockery were running together on the sidelines, only other thing I've heard is that Canty's still doubtful for Sunday

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Yup...we're boned. As per Pat Hanlon's Twitter (http://www.twitter.com/giantspathanlon)

Kenny Phillips (knee) has been placed on injured reserve; Giants awarded S Aaron Rouse off waivers from Green Bay...

[askewcore]

Aaron Rouse and Aaron Ross could play together huh? Weird.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

oh man, I didn't even think about that...can't wait to hear Bob Pappa balls that up

[Steam]

Fucking sucks to lose Phillips. Can't the defense go through a year without losing a valuable piece early on?

[ceeps04]

This sucks. I am hearing on various message boards that it might be an arthritic condition similar to killed Allan Houston's career but dont know how legit that info is.

I loved the way this guy plays. He is a prototypical U safety following the likes of Sean Taylor and Ed Reed to All Pro status. I have to believe they shut him down for the year because it is the best for him in the long run because it seemed to me that he was looking forward to playing hurt all year.

CC Brown is a vet and I just hope he can fill in nicely and them not miss a beat. But even on some of those long runs the Cowboys had, if you saw Phillips run into the screen you knew he was going to be able to take down the runner without issue.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

This sucks. I am hearing on various message boards that it might be an arthritic condition similar to killed Allan Houston's career but dont know how legit that info is.yeah, I'm terrified about that

Long Term prospects depend on severity (http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2009/09/long-term_prospects_for_ny_gia.html)

When Giants safety Kenny Phillips was placed on injured reserve with a left knee injury this afternoon, the diagnosis the team revealed was patellofemoral arthritis -- a condition in which the the cartilage has worn down behind the kneecap, where it sits against the femur.

Since that is a joint that carries a lot of stress, it is a challenging condition for a football player and can result in lingering pain and discomfort. But the long-term prospects of playing with the condition vary widely depending on its severity in a player, which can only be determined by the doctors who examined him.

"It's premature to say it's career-ending unless you had the information (for the player)," said one physician and sports medicine expert, who asked to remain anonymous because they have not examined Phillips and do not know the specifics of his case. "It's a challenging problem to deal with. It's not something that’s going to likely go away; it's something he's going to have to deal with. But career-ending is kind of hard -- if it's significant, it can be career-threatening."

The doctor stressed there is "a lot of variation" in cases of patellofemoral arthritis, depending on how large the defect in the cartilage is.

For less severe conditions, the problem can be managed -- like the Giants had been doing with Phillips since the issue first came up in training camp -- by trying injections of anti-inflammatories or lubricants, rest to see if the swelling in the joint quiets down or a brace to control the movement of the kneecap. If the knee continues to swell or the condition is more severe, that's when surgery is considered.

This seems to be in line with Phillips' timeline. He tried to manage the condition for several weeks, but after an MRI Wednesday revealed it had worsened, was placed on IR and will consider surgery. According to a source, while a treatment plan for Phillips has not yet been decided upon, microfracture surgery has been discussed.

According to the doctor consulted for this article, what microfracture surgery would do is help to regenerate a new lining on the bone. This is achieved by picking at the bone to create small microfractures in the surface, causing it to bleed and stimulating the growth of new cartilage.

"It hopefully regrows some of the cartilage so he can go through his career," the doctor said. "It's never as good as the original, but it is kind of something to buy some time, get a lining on it."

That objective seems to jibe with the comments made by the Giants, who expressed disappointment over losing Phillips for the year but optimism he will be a contributor for the team in future seasons. Coach Tom Coughlin said in the team's release that Phillips' problem needed to be corrected but "I’m sure he’ll rehab and be back with us in the spring."

Added Phillips: "Longevity is the key, so this is why we are going through with it."

According to the doctor, patellofemoral arthritis could result from a prior instance when the kneecap was dislocated or shifted, a direct blow to the knee or multiple smaller injuries. It's possible, the doctor added, that his condition is not full-blown arthritis and has started as a break in the cartilage.

Phillips said he is unsure exactly when the condition first developed. He noticed swelling in his knee at some point during training camp, but chalked it up to the usual nicks and bruises.

Without the specifics, a long-term prognosis is difficult to determine. The bottom line, though, is that while patellofemoral arthritis can present a challenging road for an NFL player, the road has not necessarily reached a dead end.

"It definitely can be very troublesome; it's definitely not a good injury to have," the doctor said. "But it depends on how big the break in the cartilage is, where on the weight-bearing surface, things like that."

Drew Rosenhaus is saying that the injury is NOT career threatening (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2009/09/agent-phillips-injury-not-career-threatening.html), but that's just what agents are supposed to do.

[iSpeakEloquent]

thought this was a bit amusing as much as i think the writer is a douche too.

http://jay-mariotti.fanhouse.com/2009/09/24/critics-are-right-phony-romo-a-bust/?icid=main|welcome|dl4|link7|http%3A%2F%2Fjay-mariotti.fanhouse.com%2F2009%2F09%2F24%2Fcritics-are-right-phony-romo-a-bust%2F

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

the Giants dominated today, like it was much of a question against the Buccaneers. the Bucs didn't get a first down until the third quarter, and they were shooting off their cannons and celebrating like they scored a touchdown. and even when they came close to scoring on their last drive, the Giants red zone D held up. seeing Kareem McKenzie get carted off was worrisome though.

[Boratfan]

Good Game for the Giants today. Eli is really starting to become a consistent player and is controlling the game very well. Bradshaw had an awesome game and was making some sick cuts. The D played very well BUT I would like to see some more sacks. We havn't had a sack since week one. Tampa Bay is AWFUL!!! and it looked like there were more giants fans then bucs fans. We got KC next week boys!!!!!!

[iSpeakEloquent]

Good Game for the Giants today. Eli is really starting to become a consistent player and is controlling the game very well. Bradshaw had an awesome game and was making some sick cuts. The D played very well BUT I would like to see some more sacks. We havn't had a sack since week one. Tampa Bay is AWFUL!!! and it looked like there were more giants fans then bucs fans. We got KC next week boys!!!!!!

they have been getting to the qb but they have been getting rid of the ball.

i love eli but i won't call him consistent until i see him play well in december wind.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

That D looked fantastic on Sunday. I was shocked that Leftwich got a few of those passes off, thank God no one caught them. Only thing I am kind of perturbed about is how Jacobs is approaching the line. He doesn't seem to flying up to the line of scrimmage...it's almost as if he's looking for the hole to develop & then go through it, instead of how in years past he saw the beginning of the hole & then burst through. I think he'll get his shit in order, it's just hurting my fantasy team. I really hope it's not a case of "I got my contract, I'm good." I don't think it is, but that worry is there...

[askewcore]

Siragusa mentioned something about Jacobs going into the line a little soft and he brought up a good point, he said, "Jacobs has to start making holes instead of trying to pick the hole." He was also running tall yesterday, which was a bad habit he had in his rookie year. I'm sure he'll be fine, but it's worth paying attention to.

I love Bradshaw, he's such a little never say die runner. Like a Joe Morris/Dave Meggett/Tiki Barber mix.

[iSpeakEloquent]

That D looked fantastic on Sunday. I was shocked that Leftwich got a few of those passes off, thank God no one caught them. Only thing I am kind of perturbed about is how Jacobs is approaching the line. He doesn't seem to flying up to the line of scrimmage...it's almost as if he's looking for the hole to develop & then go through it, instead of how in years past he saw the beginning of the hole & then burst through. I think he'll get his shit in order, it's just hurting my fantasy team. I really hope it's not a case of "I got my contract, I'm good." I don't think it is, but that worry is there...

Siragusa mentioned something about Jacobs going into the line a little soft and he brought up a good point, he said, "Jacobs has to start making holes instead of trying to pick the hole." He was also running tall yesterday, which was a bad habit he had in his rookie year. I'm sure he'll be fine, but it's worth paying attention to.

I love Bradshaw, he's such a little never say die runner. Like a Joe Morris/Dave Meggett/Tiki Barber mix.


i see what you guys are saying but at the same time siragusa and dummy cowboy were making too much of it. At the time they were complaining jacobs was averaging over 4 yds a carry. Ill take it. Just because bradshaw was averaging 14 doesn't mean jacobs sucks.

he had 92 yds and a td. id like to have him on my fantasy team over that hump michael turner.

from yahoo: "RB Brandon Jacobs was impressive as New York pounded Tampa Bay on the ground. Jacobs started the game's scoring with a 6-yard TD run and totaled 92 yards on 26 carries.
(Yahoo! Sports)"

[Jimmy's Dignity]

he had 92 yds and a td. id like to have him on my fantasy team over that hump michael turner.I've got em both & am just waiting for them to erupt...

apparently McKenzie has a "sprained" right knee & Seubert only has a "sore" shoulder

[askewcore]

4 yards a carry is just fine. 4 yards everytime brings a first down after three plays. I'm not really bashing him, but as good as he's playing, he can improve. He's been so good about keeping his pad level down, I dont wanna see him run tall again, ya know? Plus, a big running back trying to get sexy and pick holes instead of just running hard reminds me of *shutter* Ron Dayne...

apparently McKenzie has a "sprained" right knee & Seubert only has a "sore" shoulder

As long as they play Beatty and not Boothe at tackle I'm okay. If Big Rich can't go, we have that lineman they singed from Jacksonville (I think) who played pretty well in preseason. I can't for the life me of recall his name right now though.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Plus, a big running back trying to get sexy and pick holes instead of just running hard reminds me of *shutter* Ron Dayne...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3663/3473849750_ba36853bc5.jpg

[iSpeakEloquent]

4 yards a carry is just fine. 4 yards everytime brings a first down after three plays. I'm not really bashing him, but as good as he's playing, he can improve. He's been so good about keeping his pad level down, I dont wanna see him run tall again, ya know? Plus, a big running back trying to get sexy and pick holes instead of just running hard reminds me of *shutter* Ron Dayne...

maybe he wants to stay healthy against shit teams like washington/dallas/tampa/kc/oak unlike tuck who wants to risk his shoulder against 3 of the worst teams in the league. maybe he is just making sure he is healthy to bulldoze a saint



As long as they play Beatty and not Boothe at tackle I'm okay. If Big Rich can't go, we have that lineman they singed from Jacksonville (I think) who played pretty well in preseason. I can't for the life me of recall his name right now though.

seubert was walking around in pads and the end shaking hands, he looked fine, id be real surprised if the new howard cross was gonna sit out.

[righty]

i read on my blackberry that bradshaw was wearing a boot and didnt practice today. they said it was soreness from an old injury. he probaly will be able to play sunday. i think they should rest him so he doesn't really injure himself.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Apparently Chase Blackburn had what looked like a high ankle sprain on Sunday...apparently he practiced today and is fine.

The real story is that Kenny Phillips had surgery on his knee (http://www.phillips21.com/blog.html) yesterday by Dr. James Andrews

I had the surgery yesterday with Dr. James Andrews in Alabama. Now I’m flying back to New Jersey so I can start my rehab right away.

I don’t remember anything because I was under anesthesia. My knee is wrapped up and I have a brace and crutches. They gave me a lot of meds. The knee doesn’t really hurt right now, but the meds are making me feel sick.

This kind of injury takes a long time to heal. It’s a long process, I can’t even run for 4-5 months. It’s going to be a while before I’m back to 100 percent.

At first this whole thing really threw me. I mean, we got off to a good start, I had a good training camp, we’re undefeated, everything was going the right way and then the injury occurred.

I thought this was going to be a great year for me and the team. To no longer be a part of the team, it hurts, it really does. But I believe that everything happens for a reason. I feel God has something better in store for me so all I can do is wait.

I won’t be at the games on the sidelines. I’ll probably watch at home on TV. But I’ll be at the facility first thing tomorrow to start my rehab. Nothing major at first, just icing and massages. I might get off these crutches in about 8 weeks.

All of you fans out there, hold on. I’m going to make a speedy recovery, and I’ll be back better than ever next year. Keep believing and pray for me.

[LBF]

i read on my blackberry that bradshaw was wearing a boot and didnt practice today. they said it was soreness from an old injury. he probaly will be able to play sunday. i think they should rest him so he doesn't really injure himself.


For the sake of my fantasy team, I really hope the Giants don't follow your advice. Frank Gore's ankle and Tim Hightower's bye week have forced me to rely quite heavily on Bradshaw this week.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

losing Phillips for the season sucks. he had a great game against Dallas and really added a spark to a Giants secondary that is already plagued with injuries.

[iSpeakEloquent]

i read on my blackberry that bradshaw was wearing a boot and didnt practice today. they said it was soreness from an old injury. he probaly will be able to play sunday. i think they should rest him so he doesn't really injure himself.

of course he is since i just traded for him in my fantasy league

[Mother Shucker]

Well, that was a nice start for you guys. Go Eli (have him in my $ league).

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

there are few better ways to start a game than by recovering a fumble on the opening kickoff and getting a TD out of it.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

wow! Manningham putting on another show with that juggling catch!

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

damn, first Eli fumbles then gets picked off. good thing the Giants defense has held the Chiefs to only a field goal. Cassel may have done a great job in New England, but he just doesn't have the same caliber of team to back him up.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

Smith with the touchdown after that hard hit the play earlier. i'm really impressed with how he's developed as a receiver. he and Manningham are really stepping up.

[ChrisH]

The Eli/heel thing makes me worry, although it doesn't seem to be too bad. That, plus Manningham's butterfingers (someone needs a Code Red) are marring an otherwise great game and great start to the season.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

Eli doesn't seem to be in too bad of shape. he was talking quite normally on the sidelines after they took him out. they're likely just playing it safe so the Chiefs D doesn't try to target his heel and turn a bruise into something worse.

[WarshCloth]

I honestly did not expect the passing game to be this good...I am shocked..SHOCKED...at the change that Steve Smith has gone through. From a possession/slot receive toa #1? Never expected it.

A nice start to the season again...Thank you Giants...as a Met/Giant/Knick/Ranger fan its nice to see ONE front office/ownership team seem compitent

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Wait, was it a heel injury? I wasn't paying attention at the bar, I thought he kinda cramped up his calf. I fucking love Steve Smith, he's been fucking amazing this season...Manningham has impressed the shit out of me with these circus juggling catches. The D looked good, I'm glad they finally started cashing in on the QB pressures

4-0!

[iSpeakEloquent]

wow! Manningham putting on another show with that juggling catch!

great game, manningham needs hixon to come back so he can go back to being a number 3 and actually getting decent balls thrown to him. Manning either never throws to the #2 or throws shit at him. Every ball that was too low or off a shoulder was to manningham. He only seems to throw well to #1 and #3. Since Manningham has been #2 he hasn't done much.

[Boratfan]

Very nice game all around. It was good to see Michael Boley having an awesome game. I'm also really impressed with Bruce Johnson. Very good pickup by the g-men.

[Papagolash]

Hahaha the Giants stick it to the Cowboys

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/deadspin/2009/10/manning_signature.jpg


That's Eli Manning's signature on a column in the Cowboys Stadium's visitors locker room according to an NBCDFW user.

"See the picture of a concrete column in the visitor locker room in the new Cowboys stadium," the NBCDFW.com user wrote. "I heard the locker room was spat on and had many used jock straps hanging from the mirrors and other places too. What class."

If the story is true don't judge Eli too harshly, he was probably just trying to fit in with the older boys. He's so impressionable.


source http://deadspin.com/5373855/eli-manning-signed-his-work-in-dallas

[iSpeakEloquent]

Hahaha the Giants stick it to the Cowboys

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/deadspin/2009/10/manning_signature.jpg


That's Eli Manning's signature on a column in the Cowboys Stadium's visitors locker room according to an NBCDFW user.

"See the picture of a concrete column in the visitor locker room in the new Cowboys stadium," the NBCDFW.com user wrote. "I heard the locker room was spat on and had many used jock straps hanging from the mirrors and other places too. What class."

If the story is true don't judge Eli too harshly, he was probably just trying to fit in with the older boys. He's so impressionable.


source http://deadspin.com/5373855/eli-manning-signed-his-work-in-dallas

there is serious hatred between the 2 team so i understand. However it looks eli signed his name but some one else wrote the other shit. Doesn't look like the same handwriting

[askewcore]

there is serious hatred between the 2 team so i understand. However it looks eli signed his name but some one else wrote the other shit. Doesn't look like the same handwriting

I was thinking the same thing. And if he did write it, he has creepy, David Berkowitz handwriting. Which is fine with me as long as he wins games. And anything to fuck the Cowboys is great.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Oh noes! They spat in the locker room!! Umm...has that writer ever played sports in his life? That's the shit that you do. But I do love that Eli signed his name & that got written under it


On a side note, Coughlin's teams are more than swell on the road (http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2009/10/ny_giants_coach_tom_coughlin_p.html)

[askewcore]

Looks like E is gonna be fine (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4533731)

As long as nothing fishy comes back with the MRI, Eli's gonna try and practice Wednesday.

[SurlyTruckDrivr]

looks like Boley's gonna miss a few games

from rotoworld

Giants WLB Michael Boley is expected to miss "a few weeks" after injuring his knee in the team's Week 4 win.

New York's outstanding depth will again come in handy. Boley had 15 tackles, a sack, and two pass breakups since returning from his Week 1 suspension, but Bryan Kehl and Chase Blackburn are adequate options to replace him.

[DocSavage]

Looks like E is gonna be fine (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4533731)

As long as nothing fishy comes back with the MRI, Eli's gonna try and practice Wednesday.

This from Rotoworld: Eli Manning was at the Giants practice facility Tuesday, getting treatment on his right foot.

Manning says he's just getting ice and electrical stimulation on the foot. He said yesterday he plans on playing Sunday against Oakland and is hoping to practice Wednesday. The Giants continue to dispute a report that Eli was going for a second opinion on his injured plantar fascia. We're expecting him to be a game-day decision.

This from me: I HAD this injury just this past year. It is a lingering injury and at times you can't plant your heel/foot. After weeks of trying to "walk it off" it only got worse. Trust me kids...this is not good for him. It took me three months to finally rid myself of the sporadic pain it caused.

[askewcore]

This from me: I HAD this injury just this past year. It is a lingering injury and at times you can't plant your heel/foot. After weeks of trying to "walk it off" it only got worse. Trust me kids...this is not good for him. It took me three months to finally rid myself of the sporadic pain it caused.

I had plantar fascitis a few years back also, playing basketball and it definitely does hurt like a bitch. It also took me like 6-8 weeks to get rid of the pain fully. That being said, I'm not a well paid, professional athlete nor did I have the benefit of a cortizone shot before running on it. It's not fun, but I don't think it should effect Eli's game much. I still wouldn't mind him resting against Oakland though.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

I still wouldn't mind him resting against Oakland though.

Yeah, I wouldn't be shocked if Coughlin wants him to sit out. Am I comfortable with David Carr in at QB? Fuck no. Do I think the Giants could win with him handing the ball off to Jacobs & Bradshaw? Yeah, more than likely

[askewcore]

I'll be pissed if the D gives up a touchdown to the Raiders. They're really fucking bad. Darrius Heyward-Bey could be dangerous, but he falls down everytime he makes a cut.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

looks like Boley's gonna miss a few games

from rotoworld

Giants WLB Michael Boley is expected to miss "a few weeks" after injuring his knee in the team's Week 4 win.

New York's outstanding depth will again come in handy. Boley had 15 tackles, a sack, and two pass breakups since returning from his Week 1 suspension, but Bryan Kehl and Chase Blackburn are adequate options to replace him.

Apparently it's longer than just a few...he's going to be out for a month apparently. He had surgery this morning to repair a torn meniscus. Hopefully Kehl can provide a similar amount of pressure on the QB this weekend

[askewcore]

Hopefully Kehl can provide a similar amount of pressure on the QB this weekend

Hopefully he'll be back after the New Orleans game...


LB Bryan Kehl, who did not miss a play in Sunday's victory at KC, underwent surgery late this afternoon for a fractured left index finger. Dr. Robert Hotchkiss performed the procedure at Hospital for Special Surgery. Kehl's status is week to week.

Let's go Gerris Wilkinson?

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Kehl should just tape it up like Steve DeBerg & play

[askewcore]

Kehl should just tape it up like Steve DeBerg & play

I concur. I played a fucking high school game with three broken fingers. Eat a handful of advil and stop being a fem.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Top Ten reasons why it's great to root for the Giants (http://www.bigblueview.com/2009/10/8/1073608/top-10-reasons-its-great-to-root?ref=yahoo)

It seems that being happy about being a fan of the New York Giants, and enjoying the amazing ride they have been on in recent seasons, has been a theme for me recently.

In reality, you have to look no further than the four teams the Giants have already played this season -- and the one they will play Sunday -- for reasons why being a Giants fan in 2009 is a beautiful thing.

Here, after that lengthy buildup, is a list of 10 reasons why it's great to be a Giants fan.

Our head coach might be in the Hall of Fame one day. The head coach of this Sunday's opponent might be heading to jail.
The quarterbacks for our first five opponents -- Jason Campbell, Tony Romo, Byron Leftwich, Matt Cassel and Jamarcus Russell. Our guy -- Eli Manning.
One more coach comment. Their guys -- Jim Zorn, Wade Phillips, Raheem Morris, Todd Haley, Tom Cable. Our guy -- Tom Coughlin.
Them -- Jerry Jones, Dan Snyder, Al Davis. Us -- the Maras and Tisches.
Most noteworthy thing the Cowboys have done this decade -- build a big video board. Most noteworthy Giants' accomplishment -- a Super Bowl title.
The GMs for all those other teams -- who cares, he's not Jerry Reese.
Bruce Springsteen wrote a song about our house. Those other guys well, they get to write yearly epitaphs on how their seasons end in failure.
Those teams have cheerleaders and we don't, but that gives us an excuse to spend extra time ogling them. Oh, and we do still have Reby Sky, our favorite 'NY Giants Girl (http://nygiantsgirl.com/)'.
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/185018/Reby_with_Teddy_Bear_medium.jpg
Giants fans don't have to dress like a Hell's Angel -- or a hog -- to go to the games.
Our QB isn't on TMZ more than ESPN.
My thanks to our man Jim for helping me out with a couple of these. His, umm, warped sense of reality came in handy. Anyway, feel free to add some of your own.

[askewcore]

That was a good find. (Except the the Bruce part. I dont think I hate any singer more than that fucking raspy cunt). Reby Sky is the greatest woman ever.

Eli misses practice again (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4542550)

He hasn't practiced the last two days, but said he can play. He also said he wouldn't play if he couldnt run the entire game plan or would risk making the injury worse. I'd be okay with him sitting. I think the defense is good enough (and the Raiders are bad enough) we can get a win with Carr.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

I want Eli healthy & think we can win with Carr too. That being said, I want Eli to play...I picked the Giants in my Suicide Pool this week.


As for Reby Sky...I really really really really wish she'd pose nude. Cause that'd be sweet.

[askewcore]

I picked the Giants in my Suicide Pool this week.

So did everyone else I know in a suicide pool who didn't pick them last week. This is the last (hopefully) easy game we have for a while.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

yeah, 79 people picked them last week...I think this week there will be about 150 people picking them

[caniseeyourtaint]

As for Reby Sky...I really really really really wish she'd pose nude. Cause that'd be sweet.


I do believe she kinda has....

http://girlsphotosgirls.blogspot.com/2007/11/native-new-yorker-reby-sky-took-deep.html

http://www.rebysky.com/RebySkyGALLERY/album/index.html

:D

[DJ Evel Ed]

I hope Eli plays Sunday. What concerns me is how sudden this injury came about. He wasn't touched at all. Was he in any pain when he woke up that day? I had Plantar and it sucks but I got it as a side effect of Human Growth Hormone. I would wake in the morning and it would be really bad but as I stretched it out it was bearable during the day. I love Eli and I really hope he isn't using Human Growth Hormone, and if he is I hope he doesnt get caught. He does seem to heal quickly. hmmm....
Another side effect of HGH is Carpal Tunnel so if Eli gets that I'll be real suspicious.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

from what I heard, he had had some issues with plantar just aching recently. But nowhere near bad enough where it would have to be disclosed on the injury list

[askewcore]

I hope Eli plays Sunday. What concerns me is how sudden this injury came about. He wasn't touched at all. Was he in any pain when he woke up that day? I had Plantar and it sucks but I got it as a side effect of Human Growth Hormone. I would wake in the morning and it would be really bad but as I stretched it out it was bearable during the day. I love Eli and I really hope he isn't using Human Growth Hormone, and if he is I hope he doesnt get caught. He does seem to heal quickly. hmmm....
Another side effect of HGH is Carpal Tunnel so if Eli gets that I'll be real suspicious.

I got my plantar injury out of nowhere too. I was just slowly bringing the ball up court and all of a sudden my foot was killing me. It's not an injury that happens from being hit, or touched at all. It's from moving in an awkward way. Eli is a bit of a goofy spaz, he dropped back and fucked up his foot. It's a freak injury. Making the jump to his using HGH is just preposterous. HGH really wouldn't benefit a QB much, aside from the help healing. It dries up you cartilage and fucks up your joints. I don't think Eli would risk getting big, or healing a couple weeks early. Plus, the only other injury he had was in 2007 when he banged up his shoulder. He came back quick from that, yeah, but not suspicious.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/3710/rebyskybikini.jpg

Go Blue!

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

things are looking good so far, Bradshaw just broke through for a TD. that's the great thing about having a killer run game, and it looks like Jacobs and Bradshaw will be getting plenty of carries to take some of the pressure off Eli and his heel.

[SurlyTruckDrivr]

wow, great start by Bradshaw here

[SurlyTruckDrivr]

TD Manningham!!!

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

either Manning's determined to put this game out of reach early so he can get off his foot or the Raiders just suck this badly.

[SurlyTruckDrivr]

fumble recovered..yeah, I doubt Eli plays the 2nd half.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

Tuck recovers!

it's only early in the second quarter. i almost feel bad for the Raiders...almost.

[SurlyTruckDrivr]

yeah, if the Raiders coaches punch anyone else iit really should be Al Davis

TD NICKS, this is really getting embarassing for Oak

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

fumble recovered..yeah, I doubt Eli plays the 2nd half.

perhaps sooner than that, Surly.

[Mindslayer]

I feel like Im watching a Latin Kings gang ****. Holy shit...

[SurlyTruckDrivr]

I would like to see Barden get a few snaps out there today

[SurlyTruckDrivr]

haha, Romo fumbles KC up 10-0

[Mindslayer]

Dallas getting shutout makes this impending victory even more sweeter.

[SurlyTruckDrivr]

yeah, and Tampa just scored to tie it up. Would be nice if they could steal one from Philly

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

ouch, there goes the shutout. even if the Raiders can't convert, they're still in FG range.

[SurlyTruckDrivr]

yeah, and Tampa just scored to tie it up. Would be nice if they could steal one from Philly
or not, I saw a score that said TB scored, maybe it got reversed, now it says Philly 14-0, ooops

[Mindslayer]

Theyre taking alot of stupid penalties considering how hard theyre dominating today.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

challenge that call! the ball comes out before he's down!

[Mindslayer]

That's a bullshit call

[SurlyTruckDrivr]

wow, got shafted there

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

fuck, that should be the Giants' ball. even if there was no forward progress, the refs didn't even blow the whistle until the ball was out and recovered by the Giants.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

Carr's in now. doesn't mean Eli can't come back in if the Raiders somehow make it interesting.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

another fumble recovery for the Giants.

[SurlyTruckDrivr]

nice, 31-7. Tynes makes the easy one, nice...

[Mindslayer]

Surprised he didnt kick it wide.

[SurlyTruckDrivr]

fuck CBS, they switched to Pit=Det, fuck I gotta move nack north

[righty]

they r probally trying to put on the more interesting game instead of the 44 to 7 spanking the g men r giving them.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

it really is a shelacking. looks like half the stadium left to beat traffic.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Only problem I saw yesterday was the bullshit "whistle" that the refs called. A) He wasn't down by contact, B) the whistle didn't blow until Brown was already at the 20. I would have liked those extra points in my fantasy game. But other than that, fucking fantastic game.

[moegolden]

http://i36.tinypic.com/oholcn.jpg

EAST RUTHERFORD, NJ - OCTOBER 11: A fan of the New York Giants looks on against the Oakland Raiders on October 11, 2009 at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, New Jersey. The Giants defeated the Raiders 44-7.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

she is really hot

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Looks like Jacobs is getting frustrated (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2009/10/jacobs-frustration-is-upon-me.html) with his own lack of production



The more everyone sees of Ahmad Bradshaw this season, the more everyone wonders: What’s wrong with Brandon Jacobs? And five games into the season it sure does seem like something is wrong.

Even, apparently, to him.

“I expect more as well,” Jacobs said earlier today on The Brandon Tierney Show on ESPN Radio (1050 AM) in New York. “I don’t know what it is. I’m going in, working hard, I’m working hard at practice. I go out in the game and give it my all, man. I’m just waiting for it all to come together, just trying to be patient and hang in there.”

That’s fine, but five games into the season, Jacobs has rushed for just 355 yards on 100 carries. His 3.6 yards per carry average is way below the 5.0 averages he had in each of the last two years. It’s also only marginally higher than the 3.4 average he said would have to improve or he’d quit.

And most notably, it’s also way below the 6.5 yards per carry Bradshaw is averaging. Bradshaw’s got 375 yards so far this season on just 58 carries so far, and as I told you a few weeks ago he’s playing like the Giants’ true No. 1 back.

Clearly, Bradshaw is making more out of less, if nothing else. That was evident against the awful Raiders on Sunday when Jacobs struggled for 67 yards on 21 carries, while Bradshaw breezed to 110 yards on 11 carries. And it was really evident on the first series when Jacobs failed to break through to the end zone from the 5, the 2 and the 1 yard lines.

Then Jacobs came out with what the Giants said was a “burner” - - much to the delight of the home crowd - - and Bradshaw came in and went into the end zone with ease.

“I’m just being patient and trying not to get too frustrated,” Jacobs said. “Frustration is very much upon me, I’m going to be honest.”

OK, so he’s frustrated. I think we get that. But what’s wrong? Why is he struggling, when Bradshaw - - behind the same line and against the same defenses - - is having such an impressive year?

“This year, people know what we like to do,” Jacobs said. “And Ahmad is more … he can bounce around in those little creases and cracks and make a lot of big plays. Do I have the ability to do that? Yes. If I try to make plays like that, because I’m 265, 275 pounds, I’m not supposed to be doing that. Get it up there, hit into somebody, that’s what people want to see me do. If I don’t do it, I get criticized, if I do do it, I get criticized. I can’t win.

“Right now my stats aren’t very good, and people want to know why. That’s why,” Jacobs added. “Because I have the ability to make plays with my feet, but when I try to, it’s the worst thing. I’m scum of the earth when I do that."

[askewcore]

Jacobs hasn't been amazing this year, but he's been adequate. I don't care WHO gets the yards, as long as the running game works. I think the change of pace and style that Bradshaw brings in after Jacobs comes out is one of the reasons he's breaking big runs. Also, Jacobs can be more effective as the year gets deeper (as long as he's healthy) because D lineman will start tiring out.

This week starts the real games again. I hope Ross comes back soon, it's going to be hard to stop Brees and the Saints with the patchwork secondary they been running out there so far. At least Dockery will be playing, though. Any news on Canty?

[Jimmy's Dignity]

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2009/1014/nfl_g_manning_smith1_600.jpg

[ceeps04]

Here's my theory on the Jacobs situation. It's very similar to what Ward was doing last year when basically people were saying the same thing. Right now when the defense sees him in the ball game they stack the line with more men in the box, especially with Plax gone. This is allowing Eli to pick them apart with single coverage on almost all receivers in the pattern. Thus the crazy numbers for Smith.

When Bradshaw comes in they back off knowing that the threat of a pass is greater as well as the swing pass and Bradshaw is running against less than 8 man fronts. As the season wears on and people start dropping back into more coverages because Eli is destroying them is when BJ will start ripping those 5-7 yard runs at a clip that everyone is used to.

Now go beat the fucking overrated Saints.

[NotSoFast]

Now go beat the fucking overrated Saints.
Overrated Saints? The Giants stats are all based on their wins over teams like the Bucs and Raiders. That's the very definition of "overrated". 5 teams that have 6 wins between them. I wouldn't get ahead of yourself, especially based on this year's performance numbers, against those teams.

[SurlyTruckDrivr]

inactives today

Ware
Koets
Boley
Sintim
Canty
Ross
Whimper
Barden

[SurlyTruckDrivr]

cmon boys, a TD would be really nice here

[SurlyTruckDrivr]

nice, now how about some defense,

[SurlyTruckDrivr]

wow, fucking bullshit interference call there

[SurlyTruckDrivr]

fuck

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

this is tough to watch. Brees is completely owning the Giants secondary. the loss of Kenny Philips and Aaron Ross is most evident here. and that was a bullshit interference call. their legs got tangled, it wasn't intentional contact.

[SurlyTruckDrivr]

TD Manningham

[SurlyTruckDrivr]

yeah, I mean it looked like he was turned looking at the ball and the legs got tangled, meh water under the brige now, like you said Brees in owning them. someone needs to step up on the line and pressure him soon.

[SurlyTruckDrivr]

uuugghhhh

[Mother Shucker]

Now you guys know how I felt Monday night, only worse.

OOOOOOOFFFFAAAAAAAAA!

[SurlyTruckDrivr]

can Aikman just go and suck off Brees at the half and be done with it

[SurlyTruckDrivr]

wow, huuuge hold there!!!!

[SurlyTruckDrivr]

and 15yds, get some points here and the ball at the half, I'd take that

[SurlyTruckDrivr]

well so much for that

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

christ...this is just embarrassing.

[LBF]

Did I just hear Aikman say that it would be a safety if the Saints player had fumbled and the Giants recovered in the end zone??


It's a moot point, since they didn't overturn the ruling on the field. But still, with as much as he's being paid, shouldn't he actually understand the rules...at leat a little bit?

[Chino Kapone]

Did I just hear Aikman say that it would be a safety if the Saints player had fumbled and the Giants recovered in the end zone??


It's a moot point, since they didn't overturn the ruling on the field. But still, with as much as he's being paid, shouldn't he actually understand the rules...at leat a little bit?

That's the concussions talking.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

another bad interference call against the Giants. hughhh, ugly game.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

another INT on Manning.

[iSpeakEloquent]

this game was horrendous, the giants came in with no game plan on D. Were they kidding? The officials were terrible but that didn't have anything do with this. The saints offense was great but the giants didn't even show up.

[lockjaaaaww]

Glad I didn't watch the whole game. I left durring the 2nd quarter.

[ScottFromGA]

the G-men believed their own hype.


Saints are to be reckoned with this season.

[iSpeakEloquent]

are or are not?

[Jimmy's Dignity]

That was fucking brutal to watch. The D looked like shit, the 4 man rush didn't get any pressure on Brees at all. Offensively it was a decent outing, but they couldn't buy a stop to save their life. A few bad calls, but that's just status quo. I think if Eli had hit Steve Smith with that touchdown on the opening drive, it would have gotten the crowd a little out of it, but still nowhere near enough to change the result.

All in all though, 5-1 after 6 weeks is a damned good thing. I'm worried about McKenzie's injury, and when the fuck are Canty or Ross going to come back?? It's ridiculous

[jacksparrow]

Eli Manning sends a message to Gmen fans: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuPydeQJ_VQ

[ceeps04]

I think more than anything the Saints took advantage of the Giants injuries. And they did this because they had 2 weeks to prepare from their bye. While the game does make me nervous, especially with CC Brown in the back, I feel getting Ross and Boley back for the next time the Giants play the Saints in the postseason will help more than we know. Then they can even think about moving Thomas to Safety.

[Mindslayer]

All in all though, 5-1 after 6 weeks is a damned good thing. I'm worried about McKenzie's injury, and when the fuck are Canty or Ross going to come back?? It's ridiculous


Isnt Ross out for the season ?

[iSpeakEloquent]

honestly i think if we didn't fumble at the end of the half and scored even a field goal the game would've been way different, at least closer.

[ceeps04]

Isnt Ross out for the season ?

No. All though you would think he was with how much he's played, which is none.

[iSpeakEloquent]

i heard he was fine then pulled his hammy again, wtf, the guy seperated his shoulder in his rookie season and played the next week

[Mindslayer]

Anyone going to the game this Sunday ? Im going with my brother in law, first game weve been to since they played the Pats in the last game of 07. Im fired up !

[iSpeakEloquent]

im going 11/8, my friend has 4 extra tix for this sundays game if anyone is interested

[LBF]

So I just turned on NBC in the middle of Faith Hill's garbage intro. Look NFL, it was nifty 25 years ago when you trotted out Hank, Jr. to do the pregame singing deal.....at this point, it is getting really tiresome.


That is all.

[SurlyTruckDrivr]

dammit, int AZ

[SurlyTruckDrivr]

http://y100fm.com/images/2009/08/faith12745_o.jpg the song blows, the theme sucks, but I can live with Faith at the start

[LBF]

http://y100fm.com/images/2009/08/faith12745_o.jpg the song blows, the theme sucks, but I can live with Faith at the start



Okay, maybe I was a bit harsh earlier. More Faith moving around.....less Faith singing.

[SurlyTruckDrivr]

that works for me LBF

[SurlyTruckDrivr]

shit, tied up

[LBF]

Chris Collinsworth is a horse's ass.



That is all.

[ChrisH]

Fuck!! Manningham, wtf?!?!?!?

[SurlyTruckDrivr]

gotta make that catch Mario

[LBF]

Boy, Bradshaw's had a good couple minutes.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

That was a rough and ugly game last night. I'm glad I was watching the Yankees instead

[ceeps04]

That was a rough and ugly game last night. I'm glad I was watching the Yankees instead

Yeah, me too. Unfortunately I saw enough of it between pitches and inning breaks that I realized one thing. That was the first game this year where I feel Plax and Amani wouldv'e made the difference.

I saw Plax make that same play where Hixon came up small on the deep ball that was picked, and a couple other 1 on 1 routes where Eli threw it up because of blitzes that just weren't taken advantage of by the receivers.

[iSpeakEloquent]

hixon shouldn't be on the field unless there is a punt or a kickoff

smith-manningham-nicks is all i want to see

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Holy shit! There was a Chris Canty sighting (http://erniepalladinosgiantsbeat.blogspot.com/) at practice!!

and from what I've heard, Westbrook hasn't been ruled out for Sunday, concussion or no

[askewcore]

Holy shit! There was a Chris Canty sighting (http://erniepalladinosgiantsbeat.blogspot.com/) at practice!!

EXCLUSIVE PICS!!!

http://bloggingexperiments.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/patterson_bigfoot.jpg

and from what I've heard, Westbrook hasn't been ruled out for Sunday, concussion or no

Why do I feel like if Brian Westbrook had one leg, he'd still play against the Giants? And rack up 300 yards.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Bradshaw has a cracked bone in his foot

(http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/#ixzz0VQwVJcSW)After visiting Charlotte-based foot specialist Dr. Robert Andrews, Giants running back Ahmad Bradshaw will continue to play despite having a cracked bone on the outside of his right foot. But he remains one bad step away from suffering a potentially season-ending injury, which could happen if the crack breaks all the way through the bone.

“It’s a cracked bone in my foot, on the outside of my foot, which is probably the easiest bone to break. There’s a chance of it breaking all the way through the bone. If it does, I’ll have to get surgery then,” Bradshaw said Thursday afternoon at the Giants’ practice facility at the Meadowlands. “If it breaks, it does, and I’ll get surgery. If not, I’ll wait to the end of the season and hopefully then I won’t need it. But more than likely I’ll plan on having surgery.”

For now, Bradshaw is just “very relieved to hear that I’m going to be on the field."

[iSpeakEloquent]

should i trade him for santana moss in my fantasy league? just to get rid of him?

[askewcore]

should i trade him for santana moss in my fantasy league? just to get rid of him?

With the QB situation in Washington, you might get more points from an injured Bradshaw.

I hear tell Manningham fucked up his shoulder in practice today too. Don't know how serious, but it can't be good.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

it just figures that we find out about Bradshaw's fractured foot the day after I accept a trade with him in it. (Him & Burleson for Colston). I figured that Colston wasn't going to be one of my keepers & I'm already 1-6 :icon_conf

[distortion9]

I just thank God the Yankees are in the World Series....the Giants are fucking enraging to watch.

[ceeps04]

I just thank God the Yankees are in the World Series....the Giants are fucking enraging to watch.

my thoughts exactly

[lockjaaaaww]

I just thank God the Yankees are in the World Series....the Giants are fucking enraging to watch.

This.


They've been terrible, I'd be pissed off right now if there wasn't a baseball game.

[Stormrider666]

I just thank God the Yankees are in the World Series....the Giants are fucking enraging to watch.

my thoughts exactly

This.


They've been terrible, I'd be pissed off right now if there wasn't a baseball game.

As a person who is a fan of the Washington Redskins and the Yankees, now you guys know my pain.

[Mother Shucker]

Fucking Manning. Fuck. I need him to be pre foot thing Manning. (Yeah, I have hiim in my $ league.)

[Jimmy's Dignity]

I was so glad that I was at the Rangers game instead of watching that schellacking

[askewcore]

Fucking Manning. Fuck. I need him to be pre foot thing Manning. (Yeah, I have hiim in my $ league.)

He's got a fucking foot thing on his foot.

Disgusting game. At least Jacobs looked good for the few carries he got. Not having Manningham hurt. I've said it once, and I'll say it again, Domenik Hixon is not good if he has to be anything more than a #3 WR. And can we officially call Sinorice Moss a bust and ship hsi ass out of here yet? Aaron Ross had better get his ass healed up and back on the fucking field too.

[iSpeakEloquent]

i can't way to go to the game sunday.....oof

[Mother Shucker]

i can't way to go to the game sunday.....oof

Spelling? (In keeping with the WS thread, I kid).

[Jimmy's Dignity]

http://upnextinsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/sports-pictures-eli-manning-giants-listen-up.jpg


Hopefully the Giants can actually show up and beat the Chargers on Sunday. They need a win badly to at least get the taste of the last three weeks out of their mouth before heading into the bye week. And if there is any hope, Canty, Boley, & even Ross will finally recover enough to be back in the line-up when they play the Falcons

[iSpeakEloquent]

Spelling? (In keeping with the WS thread, I kid).

got me on that one

[distortion9]

Hopefully the Giants can actually show up and beat the Chargers on Sunday.

Then again....maybe not.

These cunts aren't even going to make the playoffs....fucking disgusting.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

from 5-0 to a fucking lucky 8-8

:killme:

[roche]

It could be worse.

You could be the Redskins....

[Jimmy's Dignity]

I'll trade Kevin Gilbride for Jim Zorn straight up.

[roche]

I'll trade Kevin Gilbride for Jim Zorn straight up.

You are just upset. You really don't mean that.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

No, I do. Buddy Ryan should have punched Gilbride so much harder in the head when they were coaching the Oilers. Zorn's not a bad OC...Gilbride sucks black cocks at that job

[LBF]

They need a win badly to at least get the taste of the last three weeks out of their mouth before heading into the bye week.


Now they gotta spend the bye week getting the taste of Rivers's nuts out of their mouth.



I'm not really understanding this team. Eli had decent numbers today, they ran the ball 25+ times for 115 yards or so. You'd think they would have won the game.

[ceeps04]

No, I do. Buddy Ryan should have punched Gilbride so much harder in the head when they were coaching the Oilers. Zorn's not a bad OC...Gilbride sucks black cocks at that job

Now that the Yankees season is over I can turn my attention to the Giants. How the fuck do you get an Interception to the motherfucking 4 yard line, up 3 with 3 minutes left and wind up kicking a 36 yard field goal. How about a shot to the end zone Gilbride to put the fucking game on ice. And then Sheridan that piece of shit. Coughlin should fire him immediately. I am not usually the type of person calling for coordinators heads but this guy is fucking worthless. Tim Lewis is shaking his head at the calls that guy made on that final drive. How is Vincent Jackson running wide open on the td with no one near him. Why is Sproles being covered by Boley 1 on 1 down the seam. God fucking damnit. 6 wins going into the bye is manageable because at least you are tied with wins with the division lead. 5 wins and your a game and a half out and fighting for a wild card. If their season is gonna be anything this year, a win over Atlanta in 2 weeks is a must. Because tiebreakers for the Wild Card is gonna be huge.

[smurray06]

No, I do. Buddy Ryan should have punched Gilbride so much harder in the head when they were coaching the Oilers. Zorn's not a bad OC...Gilbride sucks black cocks at that job

zorn has never been an OC, but the skins do have no O line. here's to hoping for 2-14

[lockjaaaaww]

Uggh, notch up another frustrating loss.

[iSpeakEloquent]

that was actually a good game til the end

problems in this game for the giants

they played better than the last 3 losses however, the playcalling was shit all game, the crowd groans everytime eli changes a play at the line but fans don't know how to read a defense so they just need to shut the fuck up.

being there live and not seeing a replay, what happened on the first fg attempt? make that field goal and u would've won by 2.

is feagles too old now or are they telling him where to put cuz every punt but 2 were horrendous and one that was good was called back. He looked fine in warmups but he's kicking 30 yd punts out of bounds at midfield constantly the last few weeks. They cover kicks fairly well why not just bomb it and see what happens.

penalties....wtf, stop being stupid, the last td drive every first down was at least a 1st and 20. Hey corey webster, stop being stupid.

I know ross is out but does every d-back have to just stand around and wait for the receivers to catch the ball and then tackle them

antonio gates is the best tight end in the nfl yet he is wide open by 15 yds 3 times? learn to coach a defense.

this team is more than capable of going 5-2 to end the season but they have some serious work to do over the next 2 weeks

[Jimmy's Dignity]

...Tim Lewis is shaking his head at the calls that guy made on that final drive.You know it's fucking brutal when you're starting to want Tim Lewis back :yuck2:

zorn has never been an OC, but the skins do have no O line. here's to hoping for 2-14I'd be happy with the 'Skins losing out, but you know Snyder will wind up drafting Jimmy Clausen or something stupid like that

being there live and not seeing a replay, what happened on the first fg attempt? make that field goal and u would've won by 2.I think Feagles just botched the spot which lead to Tynes thinking, "Oh it's a fake..."

is feagles too old now or are they telling him where to put cuz every punt but 2 were horrendous and one that was good was called back. He looked fine in warmups but he's kicking 30 yd punts out of bounds at midfield constantly the last few weeks. They cover kicks fairly well why not just bomb it and see what happens.I'm pretty sure they were just terrified of Darren Sproles getting a seam or blocking on a punt return. God knows we saw how scary he is when he's lined up in the slot one-on-one with Boley

Ross needs to get his fuckin' hammy healthy. Do another one of those plasma-treatments or somethin like that. Out of all of the injuries, I think Phillips is the one that hurt the team the most, but Ross's is a close 2nd

[iSpeakEloquent]

yea but it was the same shit last week with feagles too. The first one that was a false start he bombed it to the 30, every other punt the chargers ended up having the ball in giants territory, that shit can't happen.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Wow...Tommy Coughlin actually admitted that the play calling on that last drive was dogshit (http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2009/11/ny_giants_coach_tom_coughlin_c_1.html)

NY Giants coach Tom Coughlin concedes questionable play-calling in loss to San Diego Chargers

Tom Coughlin often bristles when challenged in his day-after chats with reporters about certain calls or decisions made during the previous day’s game. But there are also plenty of times when he concedes things could have been handled differently.

Monday, when asked about the possibility of throwing for the end zone instead of a screen pass, two running plays and settling for a field goal — not a game-clinching touchdown — late in the loss to the Chargers, Coughlin didn’t put up a fight at all.

“Well, there’s no doubt,” the Giants’ coach said of the series that began with a first-and-goal from the San Diego 4-yard line but was immediately backed up by a holding penalty. “You have a sense at that point in time the game is there to be won and a touchdown would have done that. I wouldn’t argue with you on that at all.”

Terrell Thomas’ interception return put the Giants in scoring position, but the field goal was a bit of a disappointment. Still, it gave the Giants a 20-14 lead with 2:07 remaining and forced the Chargers to take two of their three timeouts, meaning they’d have only one left as they attempted to go 80 yards on their final drive (which they were able to do).

The field goal wasn’t the worst outcome for the Giants, who were worried about an interception. But it certainly wasn’t the best, either, as a touchdown there would have sealed the game.

But the Giants chose not to test the Chargers’ defense, which backed up three defensive backs to defend the end zone and force the Giants into running plays — at least some of which were called at the line of scrimmage.

“You can look back at it and say you would do something differently, but you would be shooting yourself today if you threw it twice and stopped the clock and all of a sudden they have 3:25 left and three timeouts going into that drive,” quarterback Eli Manning said. “You would be saying that we didn’t do the right thing. You’ve got to try to make some plays and make something happen and we didn’t do it.”

As for the holding penalty, which was called against guard Chris Snee for taking down Garfield grad and Chargers defensive end Luis Castillo, Coughlin said plays like that could “go either way” and added: “I just hate to see something like that — a call made like that — to determine really what amounts to the outcome of the game in the long run.”

LB Gerris Wilkinson underwent surgery Monday to repair a dislocated wrist suffered on Sunday.

With an expected recovery time of 6-8 weeks, Wilkinson is likely headed to injured reserve, meaning his season is likely over. The 2006 third-round pick is also in the final year of his contract, so his Giants career might also have come to an end as well.

The Giants are only the second team in league history to start a season 5-0 and lose the next four. The other team to do so was the 1989 Rams, who finished the season 11-5 after winning five of their last six games.

Coughlin said the No. 1 focus for the offense and defense during this week’s bye will be the red zone, where both sides of the ball have struggled.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

http://cache-08.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/11/2009/10/500x_tuckyou_02.jpg


Apparently Aaron Ross has finally come back to practice! That's fucking fantastic, now the question is if he stays at corner or plays some Safety like he did at Texas

[righty]

It was a good Sunday. Both the cowboys and the eagles lost. Rough schedule coming for the g men. Hopefully they come out of the with some wins.

[LilJimmyRbinson]

Somehow the Giants are still in the thick of the NFC East even after not winning for over a month. Just need to pull out a win this week. Looks like the annual Cowboys collapse is starting right on time.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Thank you Green Bay...thank you San Diego

[iSpeakEloquent]

Somehow the Giants are still in the thick of the NFC East even after not winning for over a month. Just need to pull out a win this week. Looks like the annual Cowboys collapse is starting right on time.

Thank you Green Bay...thank you San Diego

thanks also goes out to michael turner for taking next week off and denver for falling back to where they are supposed to be

need to win the next 2

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Aaron Ross is "on track" for his season debut on Sunday afternoon...and Michael Turner may try to go :icon_conf

[iSpeakEloquent]

Michael Turner may try to go :icon_conf

good for my fantasy team :action-sm

[Jimmy's Dignity]

yeah, mine too...especially how swell the D has played over the last month...

[ceeps04]

good for my fantasy team :action-sm


yeah, mine too...especially how swell the D has played over the last month...



I hope you both start him and him gets you nothing. :action-sm

[Jimmy's Dignity]

I'm probably going to sit him. I've got some other decent RB's

[Jimmy's Dignity]

From the Blue Screen...

Pierce out "indefinitely" with bulging disc (http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/2009/11/pierce-out-indefinitely-with-b.html)

By Ralph Vacchiano

Antonio Pierce, the Giants’ defensive leader and starting middle linebacker, is out of Sunday’s game and out “indefinitely” according to to the team due to a bulging disc in his neck.

That stunning news was delivered from the team this evening after Pierce returned from an MRI at the Hospital for Special Surgery in New York late this afternoon. According to the team, he had been experiencing some discomfort in practice this week, which they believe is related to a burner he suffered in the loss to the Arizona Cardinals on Oct. 25.

Pierce, the team said, had experienced “very little discomfort” since that injury, but the change in his status prompted the medical staff to send him for the tests. After the MRI, he was examined by Dr. Russell Warren, the Giants’ doctor, and Dr. Frank Camissa, the Chief of the Spinal Surgical Services at HSS.

Then they hit him with the stunning news.

“I’m shocked with what I heard from the doctors this afternoon,” Pierce said in a statement released by the team. “I had no idea that what happened a few weeks ago could keep me off the field. I didn’t think it was that serious. I’m going to do everything the doctors tell me to do so I can get back out on the field as soon as possible.”

Pierce was immediately added to the injury report as “out” for the Giants must-win game against the Atlanta Falcons.

There were no further details available about his condition or how long “indefinitely” might be. Without more information, it’s impossible to tell what his prognosis might be Treatment for a bulging disc in a neck could range anywhere from a week or two of simple exercises and ice and stim treatments, to a cortizone injection, to surgery. The course would depend on the extent of the bulge and the amount of pain or discomfort Pierce is in.

Regardless, even losing their defensive captain for one game is a huge blow to a team that was finally — finally — getting healthy. With the return of cornerback Aaron Ross to practice this week, they had all 53 men on their roster practicing each of the last two days.

Unfortunately now only 52 will be available for the game.

It seems likely that Chase Blackburn, Pierce’s backup, would take over as the starting middle linebacker on Sunday. Promising second-year player Jonathan Goff is a possible option, too.

[iSpeakEloquent]

im excited about our next defensive coordinator, Antonio Pierce

gonna suck as far as leadership goes but i think blackburn is just as good as far as actual playing talent goes

[Jimmy's Dignity]

yeah, I like Blackburn...hopefully he gets the calls right. Apparently Aaron Ross is going to see some time at Safety on Sunday

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

god i hope they can still stay in the playoff chase. my best friend and i are going to the game against Dallas in two weeks, and i hope a big division game is made even bigger with playoff hopes still alive.