Spot, Buster, and Jaydo's 2004 Nascar Thread

[SpotcheckBilly]

They changed sponsors..Nextel now. Some of the races are moved around. But the most important change seems to be with the driver points. If I'm reading it right, there will be a shootout at the end now, for drivers in the top ten.

Ten-race showdown to determine NASCAR title

By MIKE HARRIS, AP Motorsports Writer

January 20, 2004

AP - Jan 20, 5:17 pm EST
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CONCORD, N.C. (AP) -- Good thing for Matt Kenseth that NASCAR's new points system wasn't around last season. The champion would've finished sixth.

In a bid to add excitement and put more emphasis on winning, NASCAR changed its scoring system Tuesday by setting up a showdown for the Nextel Cup title over the final 10 races.

Kenseth took the 2003 championship despite winning just one race. He was rewarded for his consistency -- 25 finishes in the top 10.

That wouldn't happen under the new system, which readjusts drivers' points after the first 26 races in NASCAR's top series, which has had many recent championships decided early in the season.

Shoot Out (http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-scoringchange&prov=ap&type=lgns)

[SpotcheckBilly]

Nascar Schedule 2004

All Times Eastern.

Date Race Venue TV/Start Radio/Start
02/07/04 Budweiser Shootout Daytona International Speedway TNT/7:30 p.m. MRN/7:30 p.m.
02/12/04 Gatorade 125, 1 Daytona International Speedway TNT/1 p.m. MRN/12:30 p.m.
02/12/04 Gatorade 125, 2 Daytona International Speedway TNT/-- MRN/--
02/15/04 Daytona 500 Daytona International Speedway NBC/12 p.m. MRN/12:30 p.m.
02/22/04 Subway 400 North Carolina Speedway FOX/1 p.m. MRN/12:30 p.m.

03/07/04 UAW-DaimlerChrysler 400 Las Vegas Motor Speedway FOX/2:30 p.m. PRN/2:15 p.m.
03/14/04 Golden Corral 500 Atlanta Motor Speedway FOX/1 p.m. PRN/12:15 p.m.
03/21/04 Carolina Dodge Dealers 400 Darlington Raceway FOX/1 p.m. MRN/12:30 p.m.
03/28/04 Food City 500 Bristol Motor Speedway FOX/1 p.m. PRN/12:15 p.m.
04/04/04 Samsung/Radio Shack 500 Texas Motor Speedway FOX/1 p.m. PRN/12:15 p.m.

04/18/04 Advance Auto Parts 500 Martinsville Speedway FOX/1 p.m. MRN/12:30 p.m.
04/25/04 Aaron's 499 Talladega Superspeedway FOX/1 p.m. MRN/12:30 p.m.
05/02/04 Auto Club 500 California Speedway FOX/3 p.m. MRN/2:30 p.m.
05/15/04 Pontiac Performance 400 Richmond International Raceway FX/7 p.m. MRN/7 p.m.
05/22/04 NASCAR Nextel All-Star Challenge Lowe's Motor Speedway FX/7 p.m. MRN/7 p.m.

05/30/04 Coca-Cola 600 Lowe's Motor Speedway FOX/5 p.m. PRN/4:45 p.m.
06/06/04 MBNA America 400 Dover International Speedway FX/1 p.m. MRN/12:30 p.m.
06/13/04 Pocono 500 Pocono Raceway FOX/1 p.m. MRN/12:30 p.m.
06/20/04 Michigan 400 Michigan International Speedway FOX/1 p.m. MRN/1 p.m.
06/27/04 Dodge/Save Mart 350 Infineon Raceway FOX/4 p.m. PRN/3:15 p.m.

07/03/04 Pepsi 400 Daytona International Speedway FOX/7 p.m. MRN/7 p.m.
07/11/04 Tropicana 400 Chicagoland Speedway NBC/2:30 p.m. MRN/2:30 p.m.
07/25/04 New England 300 New Hampshire International Speedway TNT/1:30 p.m. MRN/1:30 p.m.
08/01/04 Pennsylvania 500 Pocono Raceway TNT/1 p.m. MRN/12:30 p.m.
08/08/04 Brickyard 400 Indianapolis Motor Speedway NBC/2 p.m. IMS/1:45 p.m.

08/15/04 Sirius at the Glen Watkins Glen International TNT/1:30 p.m. MRN/1 p.m.
08/22/04 Michigan 400 Michigan International Speedway TNT/1:30 p.m. MRN/1:30 p.m.
08/28/04 Sharpie 500 Bristol Motor Speedway TNT/7 p.m. PRN/6:45 p.m.
09/05/04 Pop Secret 500 California Speedway NBC/7 p.m. MRN/2:30 p.m.
09/11/04 Chevy Monte Carlo 400 Richmond International Raceway TNT/7 p.m. MRN/7 p.m.

09/19/04 Sylvania 300 New Hampshire International Speedway TNT/12:30 p.m. MRN/12:30 p.m.
09/26/04 MBNA America 400 Dover International Speedway TNT/12:30 p.m. MRN/12:30 p.m.
10/03/04 EA Sports 500 Talladega Superspeedway NBC/1:30 p.m. MRN/1:30 p.m.
10/10/04 Banquet 400 presented by ConAgra Foods Kansas Speedway NBC/1:30 p.m. MRN/12:30 p.m.
10/16/04 UAW-GM Quality 500 Lowe's Motor Speedway NBC/7 p.m. PRN/6:30 p.m.

10/24/04 Subway 500 Martinsville Speedway NBC/12:30 p.m. MRN/12 p.m.
10/31/04 Bass Pro Shops MBNA 500 Atlanta Motor Speedway NBC/12 p.m. PRN/12 p.m.
11/07/04 Checker Auto Parts 500 Phoenix International Raceway NBC/3 p.m. MRN/2:30 p.m.
11/14/04 Mountain Dew Southern 500 Darlington Raceway NBC/1 p.m. MRN/12:30 p.m.
11/21/04 Ford 400 Homestead-Miami Speedway NBC/12:30 p.m. MRN/12:30

[Ballbuster1]

I'm not really in favor of the new system. Last year provided
one of the best points races in history for both the Busch and
Craftsman series. Yeah it may have been boring for the cup
series, but Matt was just that good. We'll have to wait and see.

[SpotcheckBilly]

I don't know if I like it or not. From what I understand, they wanted to make Nascar more like the NFL, and institute a playoff system at the end of the season. It could be exciting, and will do away with points leaders cruising around the track for the last couple of races.

Driver's Comments (http://www.thatsracin.com/mld/thatsracin/7755488.htm)

24 Days till the 500!!

[Ballbuster1]

It's a long season and they felt like they were losing ratings
to the World Series and the NFL, so they're trying to make it
more exciting. I guess they want to stop the run away points
leaders who cruise to the end. Maybe it'll work, I guess we'll
have to wait and see.

[Darkstar]

I think it will make the end of the season more exciting. Instead of 2 or 3 people competing there will be 10 within 50 points of each other. At that point its anybodys game.

[Ballbuster1]

I guess that's what they are trying for. It does get boring
near the season end if someone is a runaway.
We'll see how it all shakes out.
Oh, and welcome to the thread Darkstar.
Got a favorite driver or car make?
(Mine's pretty obvious, as is Jaydo's)

[Darkstar]

I don't have a favorite driver per say. I've only been following for a couple of years.

I like Junior. Couple of other that I like.

Can't stand cry baby Gordon.

[Ballbuster1]

Tony Stewart and Dale Jr. are teamed up driving the #2 Chevy
in the event. I've gotten into watching it since some NASCAR
drivers are competing over the last couple of years. Pretty
cool stuff.
EDIT:
Just saw this on NASCAR.Com:
Stewart Fastest in Practice (http://www.nascar.com/2004/news/headlines/cup/01/30/rolex_24/index.html)

[SpotcheckBilly]

I'll watch some of it tomorrow. It's pretty cool, and definitely a test of endurance.

Pruitt on the pole (http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4115070/)

[Ballbuster1]

Speed Channel is gonna run 16 hours of it.
Starts off at the beginning at 1 pm eastern and
runs til 9 pm on saturday, then picks up again
on sunday at 6am and runs to the finish at 1 pm.
Plenty of chances to check it out.

[Ballbuster1]

The first 8 hrs of Speed's coverage is over. Andy Wallace has the
#2 car out front. This is due to the great rain driving of Jr & Tony.
For a couple of guys who normally don't drive in the rain they are
doin awsome! Jr got up to 2nd place (with only 1 spin, a no-harm,
no-foul type), and then Tony got into the lead and opened it up
so much that the driver change back to Wallace didn't even lose
the top spot standing. Way to go!!! Rolex's for the boys????

[armymad]

do any one know why winston pull out of nascar after all so many years

[Ballbuster1]

Originally posted by armymad
do any one know why winston pull out of nascar after all so many years
Yeah. Because there are so many restrictions on tabacco
advertising, RJ Reynolds couldn't even advertise their products.
And with all the big lawsuit settlements, it just wasn't in their
best interests to spend all the big bucks as a sponsor.

[Ballbuster1]

Tony was out in front with 30 minutes to go when something
in the rear suspension broke. He tried to ride it out, but lost
the L/R tire and hit the wall with 18 minutes left. Tuff luck.
Tony says he'll be back next year cause he intends to win it!
I don't doubt him for a minute.

ON TO THE 500!!!!!!!!!

[SpotcheckBilly]

The Bud Shootout is Saturday night! Feb.7 on TNT!

WooHoo A new season starts, this weekend. MaryE and Jaydo6 come home soon.

Sucks for Stewart & Earnhardt..they were running away with the race. :(

[Ballbuster1]

Originally posted by SpotcheckBilly
The Bud Shootout is Saturday night! Feb.7 on TNT!
Won't be home next weekend. Be up your way.
Wife and I takin a bus trip to Foxwood Casino.

[jaydo]

[i]WooHoo A new season starts, this weekend. MaryE and Jaydo6 come home soon.

[/B]

:hi2: Daddy!!! I'm home !!!!:hi2:

I am so stoked for the upcoming season.
But I am not to happy about the new points system.
It was the same system that Dale sr. won 7 cups and gordon 4
Why all of a sudden dose it not work any more .....Hmmmmm......
I know why because a clean driver won it all . There is no drama about matt. He dosnt say anything to get him or his team in the headlines. He dosnt beat up reporters(stewart). He dosnt hang out with Hollywoods elite and rock stars ( dale jr). He dosnt have the looks of a jimmie johnson to be on the cover of G.Q. The problem is Matt has fans but no Hatters. At the race track he gets very little cheers and no boos. People just dont seem to be excited about him. And nascar relized this. And instead of rewarding a driver for a great season . There going to reward the biggest flash in the pan for a 10 week period. What nascar is trying to due is be like the NBA/NFL where the (bad boys) Are the heros..


p.s WELCOME RACE FANS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ballbuster1]

Welcome back, Jaydo!

[SpotcheckBilly]

Originally posted by Ballbuster1
Won't be home next weekend. Be up your way.
Wife and I takin a bus trip to Foxwood Casino.

NICE!! Great place, bring a lot of money. The last time I was up there, I couldn't even find a $5.00 blackjack table. All $25.00 and up. :(

Welcome Home Jay!!:hi2:

[jaydo]

Originally posted by Ballbuster1
Won't be home next weekend. Be up your way.
Wife and I takin a bus trip to Foxwood Casino.

Good to be back peeps!!!!

Ya know what buster. In my area now the talking about building a Brand new casino. Foxwoods is like 1 hour 15 mins away from here. You should stop in the hood up here for a brew...On your way through... (poet didnt no it) ........

Spot ill see you in the am ????????? (60,000) serv..

[SpotcheckBilly]

Drivers that have secured spots by winning poles this season include McMurray, Jeff Green, Dave Blaney, Bobby Labonte, Ryan Newman, Elliott Sadler, Jeremy Mayfield, Jeff Gordon, Terry Labonte, Steve Park, Jimmie Johnson, Boris Said, Tony Stewart, Kevin Harvick and Mike Skinner.

Past winners already in the field are Dale Earnhardt Jr., Mark Martin, Rusty Wallace, Ken Schrader, Bill Elliott and Dale Jarrett.

[Ballbuster1]

Boris is stoked at the opportunity. Did a short interview during
the Rolex race and said he's been working with Jr. on some
pointers for running the Shootout. Gotta remember to set my
VCR.
We took a side trip to Foxwoods several years ago when we
took the boys to Newport, R I. Friends were in on a bus trip there
so we decided to take the trip up for the weekend.

[jaydo]

Friday pratice speeds and it looks Like Jr. is the class of the feild ............Again.............http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/100/data/practice2_speeds.html

1 #8 Dale Earnhardt Jr. Chevrolet Budweiser 191.038 47.111 Leader
2 #18 Bobby Labonte Chevrolet Interstate Batteries 190.981 47.125 -0.014
3 #29 Kevin Harvick Chevrolet GM Goodwrench 190.026 47.362 -0.251
4 #42 Jamie McMurray Dodge Havoline 189.921 47.388 -0.277
5 #48 Jimmie Johnson Chevrolet Lowe's 189.526 47.487 -0.376
6 #23 Dave Blaney Dodge Whelen Engineering 189.430 47.511 -0.400
7 #24 Jeff Gordon Chevrolet DuPont 189.414 47.515 -0.404
8 #133 Mike Skinner Chevrolet RCR 189.410 47.516 -0.405
9 #49 Ken Schrader Dodge Schwan's Home Service 189.366 47.527 -0.416
10 #38 Elliott Sadler Ford M&M's 189.350 47.531 -0.420
11 #2 Rusty Wallace Dodge Miller Lite 189.270 47.551 -0.440
12 #01 Boris Said Chevrolet U.S. Army 188.826 47.663 -0.552
13 #5 Terry Labonte Chevrolet Kellogg's 188.762 47.679 -0.568
14 #91 Bill Elliott Dodge Leukomia & Lymphoma Society 188.711 47.692 -0.581
15 #20 Tony Stewart Chevrolet Home Depot 188.573 47.727 -0.616
16 #12 Ryan Newman Dodge ALLTEL 188.557 47.731 -0.620
17 #88 Dale Jarrett Ford UPS 188.419 47.766 -0.655
18 #19 Jeremy Mayfield Dodge Dodge Dealers/UAW 188.407 47.769 -0.658
19 #6 Mark Martin Ford Viagra 188.312 47.793 -0.682

[Ballbuster1]

Chevy's and Dodge's seem to be real strong. They made some
concessions to Ford, I hope they made them good enough.
Hate it when one make runs away with it.

[SpotcheckBilly]

And here we go again..Mayfield on the pole.

Starting Line-up (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/100/data/lineup.html)

[jaydo]

Yes Greg Biffle is on the pole for the Daytona 500.. It is not a type-o.... Looks good for roush........... Great shootout last night...I could have been a preview of things to come for the big race!!!!!



http://i.cnn.net/nascar/2004/news/headlines/cup/02/08/bc.car..daytona500.ap/pole3.jpg


http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/1/data/lineup.html

[SpotcheckBilly]

And the #38 on the outside pole..which means he's on the pole for race 2 in the Twin125's...i think. Go Elliot!

[Ballbuster1]

Yeah, Biffle gets the pole in the 1st 125 and Elliot starts the
2nd race. Nice job by both. Looks like the Roush/Yates engine
team-up is getting them a few more ponies. Maybe a little more
excitement to Daytona and Talladega? I hope so.

[SpotcheckBilly]

After the year Ford had last season, I'm glad Nascar made some changes to make them more competitive. If this trend continues, they'll probably take the aero changes away..but till then I'm stoked! On to the Twin 125's..

[jaydo]

Did anyone see this? I know its wrong but I want to see the video:antsmile: http://www.news-journalonline.com/NewsJournalOnline/News/Headlines/03NewsHEAD01SPD021004.htm

[jaydo]

Its a day later so techn. not a double post TeeHee!!!!!

I said this a month ago now He says it.....
http://www.nascar.com/2004/news/headlines/cup/02/11/bc.car..nascar.daytona50.ap/index.html

[SpotcheckBilly]

It'll be interesting to see what happens under the new rules. Not saying that Matt rode around for the last few races, but plenty of other past champs have in prior years..(:coughs..gordon..:coughs). :hi2:

[jaydo]

Hey!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wait >>>>> Oh o.k ....as long as you dont bust on matt !!!! We are a......o.k. Yeah That gordon is tool ,,,,,,,Just ride it out artist......(sarcastic) ......Oh wait just like aaahhh !!!!!!!!!! ma........ma........mat........................... ...aaaaaaaaaaaaa forget
it........


MATT RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[SpotcheckBilly]

:xyxthumbs Nope..not busting on Matt! :rotf:

[Stinkysteve]

You know...

If you want to make NASCAR real interesting, they should red flag the race in the middle and make them go in the other direction!

And then throw in a few Middle Eastern New york City cab drivers....


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[jaydo]

Originally posted by Stinkysteve
You know...

If you want to make NASCAR real interesting, they should red flag the race in the middle and make them go in the other direction!

And then throw in a few Middle Eastern New york City cab drivers....


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**mod edit** I was gonna post on this, but it's too funny that steve posted in sports. I gotta leave it. **mod edit**:hi2: spot

They have a name for that kind of racing .....Its called cart or indy ..................... And it stinks..........Turn left always.............Sometimes straight .....but always .....a quick left. is always gooder.........

[SpotcheckBilly]

And then throw in a few Middle Eastern New york City cab drivers....

We could have an all middle eastern cab series..we'll call it.
NASCAB

[jaydo]

Congrats to Elliot Sadler!!!!! First win for M&Ms !!!!:clap:Spots really Happy
To Jr. Aswell !!!!!!!! Here is the starting lineup.........http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/1/data/lineup.html

[SpotcheckBilly]

NICE!! Congrats to Elliot, I won't be around much this weekend, but I'm hoping to see some of the race.

[Ballbuster1]

I'm back!!!!!! Went to Foxwood and won a couple of hundred,
had a great time then came home and got sick as a dog.
Finally feeling better and ready to go! Nice job in the twin 125's
by Elliot and Jr. I think Elliot has a great shot this year with Todd
as his crew chief and the Yates/Roush pairing on the motors.
Could be a good year after all.

[Ballbuster1]

Totally great truck race tonight. Toyota's gonna give the big 3
a run for their money. D.W.'s boy Travis came in 2nd and looked
strong all night. Won't be surprised if they they do a retooling
of one of their cars to fit the Cup templates real soon to do some
Cup & Bush racing in the next few years.

[RandomNY]

Don Lagreca on 1050 ESPN radio is just about to interveiw Joe GIBBS.

Don spent about 20 minutes taking nothing buy Nascar. He went into how none of the Drivers get into trouble like BASEBALL(Steroids) Basketball(****** a WHITE GIRL, or Not paying a hooker for services rendered) pretty interesting little Intro for the hour.

[SpotcheckBilly]

Jr. wins his first 500! Congrats to the Earnhardt family. Nice 2nd for Tony Stewart..who the hell is Scott Wimmer? :biggrinfl nice top-ten for Elliot :xyxthumbs
Results Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/1/data/results_unofficial.html)

On To Rockingham!

[Ballbuster1]

JR WINS THE DAYTONA 500 !
Hell Yeah , Baby! Jr got one faster than Dad did. Glad Mikey was
ok after that big backstrech tumble.
Felt bad for Wimmer. Rubberhead wouldn't get out of the way,
even though he was a lap down. Would have been fun for the
kid to try and team up with Stewart and see if they could run
down Jr. in the last few laps.

[100 Grand]

Originally posted by Ballbuster1

Glad Mikey was
ok after that big backstrech tumble.

That was a nice wreck! My brother is big time into racing and I was watching the race with him yesterday when that happened. I kept saying "Ahhh Michael's just showboating....trying to get the crowd riled up then he'll just "climb" on out of the car" LOL Gotta understand...my bro hates football, always says that when a player is lying on the ground hurt, he's just "playing for the crowd" and always gets right up after laying there for a few minutes....and sure enough, a few minutes went by and Waltrip unbuckled and climbed out of the car....

LMAO....glad MW was ok....it was NO Petty flip but it was a good one though...Wasn't Elliot involved in that crash yesterday? I thought I saw his name?

hey look at me...posting in a NASCAR thread..... :hi2:

[Ballbuster1]

Elliot didn't even race yesterday. He's semi-retired now.
Plans on running a limited schedule this year. He's now
more of a mentor to Evernham's boys. But , still a great
guy. Going to be around for a whle I hope.
There have been bigger spills than Mikey's. Rusty Wallace,
Dale Sr., & Darrell Waltrip to name a few. Still nice to see
them walk away.:clap:

[SpotcheckBilly]

Worst wreck I ever saw was also Mikey's. 2000 at the Food City 300 Busch race. The car just came apart, and Mikey was tossed around in just the roll cage, like a rag doll. I'll never forget that.

[jaydo]

Originally posted by SpotcheckBilly
Worst wreck I ever saw was also Mikey's. 2000 at the Food City 300 Busch race. The car just came apart, and Mikey was tossed around in just the roll cage, like a rag doll. I'll never forget that.

I have that wreck on tape!!!!!!! AWFUL..............


This is hard to say but ......Congrats to JR. for the clean sweep at Daytona..:clap:

Kind of boring at the end of the race... But very clean racing ...Nice to see that. So once again :clap: jr.:clap:

[norton23]

Originally posted by jaydo6
I have that wreck on tape!!!!!!! AWFUL..............


This is hard to say but ......Congrats to JR. for the clean sweep at Daytona..:clap:

Kind of boring at the end of the race... But very clean racing ...Nice to see that. So once again :clap: jr.:clap:

"It was like a magic trick I don't know how I did it"
Amazing! he's my favorite and I love this! I respect this guy so much and love his racing style.....

"My dad was sitting next to me today and I know he loved every second...my dad was proud"


R.I.P. S.R. I know you were there and saw your son win the big one:clap:

[Ballbuster1]

Originally posted by SpotcheckBilly
Worst wreck I ever saw was also Mikey's. 2000 at the Food City 300 Busch race. The car just came apart, and Mikey was tossed around in just the roll cage, like a rag doll. I'll never forget that.
I remember that wreck, it was pretty bad lookin. Best part of it
was an in car camera shot of Mikey puttin on his sponser's hat
before he climbed out! He hasn't always been a favorite of fans,
but I've always thought, like alot of other drivers, he just needed
a good team to back him up.

[Ballbuster1]

Jr won the rain delayed "Hershey Kisses 300".
That's 3 in a row. He hopes to beat Sr's record of
winning the Busch Race 5 years in a row. Hope he
can do it cause in the current era it may be the only
record of his father's he can beat. Go JR!

[Ballbuster1]

It was 3 years today since Mike Helton told us that we lost
Dale Sr. in the wreck at the 500. It's my anniversary date so I'll
remember it well. We were getting ready to go out for dinner
after the race when we heard that Dale was dead. Totally ruined
the evening. Hate to see a good man go too early.
Rest well Dale.:wings3:

#3

[SpotcheckBilly]

I won't ever forget that day. RIP Dale Sr.

#3

[jaydo]

I got this from Jayski.com and thought it was pretty kewl...http://jayski.thatsracin.com/trib/de/tr-siers.jpg

[100 Grand]

Originally posted by Stinkysteve
You know...

If you want to make NASCAR real interesting, they should red flag the race in the middle and make them go in the other direction!

And then throw in a few Middle Eastern New york City cab drivers....


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**mod edit** I was gonna post on this, but it's too funny that steve posted in sports. I gotta leave it. **mod edit**:hi2: spot


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....I like that idea!!:clap:

[jaydo]

Well Newman is on the pole,,,,,Again ..... Same as last year...........

It looks like Fords are going to suck at the short tracks this year!!!::hammer:

Bad news for Sadler and Kenseth

Here is the link:Lineup (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/2/data/lineup.html)

[SpotcheckBilly]

:seinfeld: Hello Newman :seinfeld: :sleeping

nice to see Rusty back up front on the short tracks..(even tho' he's in a Dodge now :( ). Elliot and Matt will be fine.

[Ballbuster1]

The way it splits up there just aren't as many Fords in the line-up.
10 Fords
16 Dodges
17 Chevys
Alot of the Pontiac teams went Chevy with the demise of the
Indian's racing program. I guess it was the easiest transition.

Newman on the pole again...:sleeping Some things didn't change.

[jaydo]

Jamie MacRockingham :hi2:

4 in a row .......Thats good

link:http://www.nascar.com/2004/news/headlines/bg/02/21/bc.car..nascar.busch.ap/index.html

[Ballbuster1]

Yeah, Jamie's lookin pretty good. He's got a lot
of potential.

Biffle dumped another Roush engine. Jack better
get his stuff right or it's gonna hurt'em later.

[jaydo]

:clap: :clap: Kenseth wins photo finish ..... :clap: :clap:

http://www.nascar.com/


casey kahne looked really good today ........

[Ballbuster1]

Great race, nice close finish. Good job for Matt.

I just don't understand how McMurray stayed on the track
while Matt & Kasey were in the pits and still gets left in 3rd.
I know they "freeze" the field when the caution comes out,
but they were in the pits , so they already relinquished the
lead to Jamie. I think he got effed. He would have swept if
he could have stayed in front.

[Ballbuster1]

Ganassi and Sabates complain to Nascar to no avail (of course).

Nascar's Story (http://www.nascar.com/2004/news/headlines/cup/02/22/jmcmurray_rock/index.html)

Knew this would cause some shit. Another bad call by Nascar.

[jaydo]

Originally posted by Ballbuster1
Ganassi and Sabates complain to Nascar to no avail (of course).

Nascar's Story (http://www.nascar.com/2004/news/headlines/cup/02/22/jmcmurray_rock/index.html)

Knew this would cause some shit. Another bad call by Nascar.


I was watching The Speed Channel. Inside Nextel Cup, And they explaned the whole thing with frezzing the field at the drop of the yellow and all that........Stuff.. Even though Kenseth (My driver" won. I still don't agree with the rule. But It looks like it will be like this all year.....
:cool3:

[Ballbuster1]

Yeah, I don't deny Matt had a good car, but I can't help but not
like the "Freezing the Field" format when it comes to a caution like that.
Anyone who ended out up front had the best shot at winning the
race once they went green. McMurray had a fast car and the know-
how to win that race and I just felt he got cheated.

[jaydo]

I agree McMurray had a great car..... And Yes he got cheated!!!!

They are going to have to change this rule because ,, At tracks like Matinsville and Loudon. It can really srew up pit stradegy...Big time !!! Its no good for the sport ...Put it back were It was before ...It worked fine ....Leave it only.... Nascar.

[SpotcheckBilly]

About friggin' time they started doing this. Loudon, and Michigan need to be next.

Soft Walls (http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-darlington-softwalls&prov=ap&type=lgns)

[jaydo]

NEXTEL ALL STAR RACE


The rules have been set .. Nothing realy new just more $ MONEY$

Here the article longish ..Kinda..Well for me it was:drunk:

www.jayski.com is were I got it from





Tuesday News Conference to Detail the NASCAR NEXTEL All-Star Challenge UPDATE: Officials of NASCAR, Nextel and Lowe's Motor Speedway will unveil the format and other details concerning the 20th running of the NASCAR NEXTEL All-Star Challenge during a news conference Tuesday, Feb. 24, in The Speedway Club at Lowe's Motor Speedway. The NASCAR NEXTEL All-Star Challenge, the most exciting all-star event in professional sports, will be contested under the lights at Lowe's Motor Speedway on Saturday night, May 22.(LMS PR)(2-21-2004)
UPDATE: Since its inception in 1985, NASCAR’s version of an “all-star game” has evolved from a novelty to a showcase, a spring ritual of speed and daring resulting in yearly additions to the book of NASCAR lore. This year, the event (formerly known as The Winston) has a new name for its 20th running: The “NASCAR NEXTEL All-Star Challenge.” On May 22, it returns to Lowe’s Motor Speedway in Concord, N.C. for the 18th consecutive year, once again featuring an exclusive field of 2003-04 race winners and past champions of the event, which will be televised live on FX (7:00pm/et). The NASCAR NEXTEL All-Star Challenge events will have a total purse of $4,095,000, an increase of $225,000 from the previous year. The winner will receive $1 million.
A total of 18 drivers already have qualified, and the talent-laden group is led by defending champion #48-Jimmie Johnson.
Also involved, for the first time: Nextel Communications: "The NASCAR NEXTEL All-Star Challenge is a marquee event for Nextel," said Michael Robichaud, senior director of sports and entertainment marketing for Nextel, the title sponsor of the NASCAR NEXTEL Cup Series. "It has been one of the most exciting events on the schedule since its inception because drivers aren’t competing for points – they race for pride and a check for $1 million. That format has created some of the sport’s greatest moments, which has made it a favorite for both drivers and fans. Our focus is to create an atmosphere that makes fans feel more connected to this all-star event than ever before."
The NASCAR NEXTEL All-Star Challenge has been held at Lowe’s Motor Speedway every year since its inception – except for 1986, when it was held at Atlanta Motor Speedway. “No other all-star event in professional sports has produced the drama and excitement this event has for nearly two decades,” Lowe’s Motor Speedway President H.A. “Humpy” Wheeler said. “Serving as the home venue for this event, we have worked hard to build equity and making the NASCAR NEXTEL All-Star Challenge a real fan favorite. We have some things up our sleeve to make the 20th edition bigger and better than ever.”
“Through the years, this has become one of the obvious highlights of our season,” NASCAR Chief Operating Officer George Pyne said. “It is invariably exciting, and provides a perfect lead-in to one of our key NASCAR NEXTEL Cup Series points events, the Coca-Cola 600, which is held in Concord the following week (May 30).”
The NASCAR NEXTEL All-Star Challenge format’s specifics follow. The NASCAR NEXTEL All-Star Challenge will have a minimum of 20 cars and drivers who meet one (or in some cases more) of the following criteria:

Drivers and car owners who have won races in either 2003 or 2004.
Active drivers who have won the championship of NASCAR’s premier series.
Active NASCAR NEXTEL Cup Series drivers who have won the NASCAR NEXTEL All-Star Challenge.
The winner of the NEXTEL Open, a two-segment (20 laps/10 laps) preliminary event for teams who have competed, but not won, during 2003 or 2004.

As for the racing itself, the NASCAR NEXTEL All-Star Challenge will consist of three segments totaling 90 laps/135 miles around the 1.5-mile Lowe’s Motor Speedway track. An initial 40-lap segment advances the top-20 finishers to the second segment. From that 30-lap sprint, the top 14 advance to the final segment, which is 20 laps. There also is the “x” factor to consider: A vote by fans will determine a random inversion (anywhere from three to 10 cars) of the starting order for the 20-lap finale.
Two races into the 2004 season, the following drivers have qualified:

Race winners: Michael Waltrip (No. 15 NAPA Chevrolet), Dale Jarrett (No. 88 UPS Ford), Matt Kenseth (No. 17 DEWALT Power Tools Ford), Bobby Labonte (No. 18 Interstate Batteries Chevrolet), Ricky Craven (No. 32 Tide Chevrolet), Kurt Busch (No. 97 Sharpie IRWIN Ford), Ryan Newman (No. 12 ALLTEL Dodge), Dale Earnhardt Jr. (No. 8 Budweiser Chevrolet), Jeff Gordon (No. 24 DuPont Chevrolet), Joe Nemechek (No. 01 U.S. Army Chevrolet), Jimmie Johnson (No. 48 Lowe’s Chevrolet), Tony Stewart (No. 20 Home Depot Chevrolet), Robby Gordon (No. 31 Cingular Wireless Chevrolet), Greg Biffle (No. 16 National Guard Ford), Kevin Harvick (No. 29 GM Goodwrench Chevrolet), Terry Labonte (No. 5 Kellogg’s Chevrolet) and Bill Elliott (No. 91 Dodge Dealers/UAW Dodge).
Past series champion: Rusty Wallace (No. 2 Miller Lite Dodge).
Past event champion: Mark Martin (No. 6 Viagra Ford).
Car owners: Joe/Rick Hendrick (No. 25 GMAC Financial Services Chevrolet) and Ray Evernham (No. 9 Dodge Dealers/UAW Dodge).

Fast Facts
What: NASCAR NEXTEL All-Star Challenge
Where: Lowe’s Motor Speedway, Concord, NC
When: Saturday, May 22, 7:30pm/et
Who: Race winners in 2003 and ’04; past series champions; past champions of the event; NEXTEL Open winner.
TV: FX, 7:00pm/et.
Radio: MRN/XM Satellite.
Posted awards: $4,095,000.
Race length: 90 laps/135 miles.
Track layout: 1.5-mile tri-oval.
2003 winner: Jimmie Johnson.
Qualified drivers (as of Feb. 22): Race winners—Michael Waltrip, Dale Jarrett, Matt Kenseth, Bobby Labonte, Ricky Craven, Kurt Busch, Ryan Newman, Dale Earnhardt Jr., Jeff Gordon, Joe Nemechek, Jimmie Johnson, Tony Stewart, Robby Gordon, Greg Biffle, Kevin Harvick, Terry Labonte, Bill Elliott; Past event champion: Mark Martin. Past series champion: Rusty Wallace. Qualified owners: Joe/Rick Hendrick (No. 25 entry), Ray Evernham (No. 9 entry).(NASCAR PR)(2-24-2004

[Ballbuster1]

Car owners: Joe/Rick Hendrick (No. 25 GMAC Financial Services Chevrolet) and Ray Evernham (No. 9 Dodge Dealers/UAW Dodge).

So does this mean Vickers & Kahne get to race even though they
are rookies and never won a Cup race? That sounds really stupid
to me. They are not in the class of those who really deserve to
be there.

[Darkstar]

Saw and interesting ad the other day. If you finish last in every race you will get $2.9 mill in prize money. First in every race gets you $9.9mill. They charge $10 mill a season to sponsor the front hood and again for the rear hood and $3 mill for each of the rear quarter panels. Yeah, its big business, that alone is $26 mill a car in sponsorship and doesn't included the doors, front quarters, etc.

[Ballbuster1]

No doubt there's major cash being spent here. That's
why you see the same driver's up front week in and week
out. It's just like any other sport, $ gets you the best
people and you gotta spend it to make it.

[jaydo]

NOW THIS IS CLASSIC >>>>>>http://lasvegassun.com/sports/racing/images/010204.gif

WHO DO YOU THINK THERE TALKING ABOUT ? NOTICE THE RED SHIRT . I THINK I SEE AN 8 ON HIS SLEEVE..j/k ?Hmmmmmmm

[SpotcheckBilly]

Originally posted by jaydo
NOW THIS IS CLASSIC >>>>>>http://lasvegassun.com/sports/racing/images/010204.gif

WHO DO YOU THINK THERE TALKING ABOUT ? NOTICE THE RED SHIRT . I THINK I SEE AN 8 ON HIS SLEEVE..j/k ?Hmmmmmmm maybe an 8, maybe a 24! :loll2:

No race this week, must be Palm Sunday or something. I'll have to interact with family members..:(

[jaydo]

Originally posted by SpotcheckBilly
maybe an 8, maybe a 24! :loll2:

No race this week, must be Palm Sunday or something. I'll have to interact with family members..:(

That goes into the " SUCKS TO BE YOU "

:hi2:

same here in my house ....the good thing is that I have to work in the am on the am .....So 5hrs out the house is a good thing .....

[Ballbuster1]

I gotta paint the bathroom. Luckily, everybody's goin out
in the afternoon, so I'll get some peace and quiet.

[neverspeakawordaga]

I got a question: Who is it that actually likes this NASCAR thing? Almost every single one of my friends is a sports fanatic, but I don't know a single person who's ever even watched a single NASCAR race. I even have car buddies (including myself) who keep up with WRC racing and F1, but nobody who can stand NASCAR. I just don't get it. I tune in for ninety seconds and the turning left gives me a headache. Is it just that you're fascinated with cars with carbuerators?

I mean, seriously, I don't know a SINGLE person who's into this garbage. How can it possibly be profitable?

[SpotcheckBilly]

Is it just that you're fascinated with cars with carbuerators?

Yep that's it..you nailed it. ::hammer:

If you have never been to a race, and just watch it on TV, you'll never understand the appeal. Sorry you don't care for the sport, lots of people do. I don't care for wrestling, but I don't go into their threads and tell them that...:biggrinfl

[Ballbuster1]

It's the classic Americian battle : Ford vs. Chevy vs. Dodge.
You can't drive an F-1 car but you can buy a Monte Carlo,
an Intrepid or a Taurus. Granted not the race version but
it's closer to a race car than a Honda Civic! If you love the
sound of an 800 h.p. V-8 you get it. If whiney fuel-injected
4 and 6 bangers turn you on, you won't get it and probably
never will. Just like I'll never understand how fake wrestling
can be called a sport. To each his own.

[neverspeakawordaga]

See there's the thing; I've tried to get it. I really have. I'm a huge car fan (though really not so much American cars in general), and a huge sports fan... it just makes no sense at all to me.

I'm not trying at all to denigrate the sport or anything, I'm just really trying to understand the appeal. I've driven oval courses before, so of course I know that there's skill involved in turning left over and over... but there's also skill involved in threading a sowing needle and crocheting a pillowcase, but I wouldn't want to watch somebody do it.

As for the cars... a front wheel drive family car with a supercharged V6 (like the Monte Carlo SS) that somehow has less HP than a Nissan Altima, doesn't offer a manual transmission, and pulls only .85g on a skidpad just doesn't seem to me to have anything even remotely resembling race roots.

And all too often, American made V8's have one thing I just absolutely can't fathom having in a car I'd actually own (well, aside from pushrods): live axle rear suspensions. I couldn't imagine actually owning a car that didn't have an independant rear suspension. This isn't 1965. Sure, a Corvette has a nice suspension... and the next time I have $50 grand to buy a two seater, I'll let you know how it rides. Actually, I won't, because I'll be using that money to buy a BMW M3.

And you can't drive F1 cars, but you most certainly can drive WRC cars. Sorry, but if I've got a choice between a Monte Carlo SS that does a 15.3 second quarter mile, pulls a .85g on the skidpad, and brakes from 60 in 135 feet, and a Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution that does a 13.1 second quarter mile, pulls a .95g on the skidpad, brakes from 60 in 110 feet, and actually has 4 usable doors... well, the Evolution costs more, but if you add in the leather seats on the Monte Carlo, then IT costs more. Just seems to me that it's a no brainer.

[Ballbuster1]

Don't sweat it if ya don't get it.
See, on a nice day like today this is what I drive:
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/v3451/convert.JPG
Definately NOT a Mitsubishi Eclipse.
When I drive down the street the pipes set off
car alarms. That's good old Americian Horsepower!
That's what it's all about. No traction control, no independant
suspensions, no on board computers, Just good ol Americian
V-8 iron trying to run fast without crashin. (although a good
wreck is part of the fun!)

[SpotcheckBilly]

It's cool, I like all kinds of racing. My Dad ran SCCA, and ran at Lime Rock. My Grandpa was a bootlegger, and ran Nascar in VA.

Guess it's in the blood. I still go to Lime Rock in the fall to see the old F-1 cars run. I still say that if you've never been to a Nascar race, you won't understand the appeal. It doesn't translate to TV.
Thanks for you're input, neverspeakawordaga...

[wackadoo]

Originally posted by SpotcheckBilly
I still say that if you've never been to a Nascar race, you won't understand the appeal. i get it spot....
left turn,left turn,left turn,left turn,left turn,left turn,left turn,left turn,left turn,left turn,left turn,left turn,left turn,left turn,left turn, left turn, left turn
what's not to get?






hehehe...[j/k]....bas...:liljim:

[Ballbuster1]

Originally posted by wackadoo
i get it spot....
left turn,left turn,left turn,left turn,left turn,left turn,left turn,left turn,left turn,left turn,left turn,left turn,left turn,left turn,left turn, left turn, left turn
There, see how easy that was?:bigok

[jaydo]

Ya know what ...? I this world of selfish ball players and $100 mil contracts... I love to see things like this ... I will now and for ever root for Hermie ..... I know Spot has been for awhile and I can see why .......Thumbs up to Hermie .....





Fans help out Long: It has been one of this week's most amazing sports stories, and a quite emotional one - dozens of NASCAR fans have nearly inundated Carl Long with checks for $25 or $50 to help him rebuild his race car from the remains of Sunday's crash [at Rockingham] as he tries to continue one of stock-car racing's most improbable quests. Long, a driver from Roxboro [NC] now living in Troutman, is trying again to put his racing life back together after the off-season sponsorship collapse of the Travis Carter operation. "It's something I never thought would happen," Long said in amazement. "The fans have been going to my web site and sending in money, close to $4,000 now. That means more to me.... I'm going to try to send 'em all something, a postcard or something, maybe with a before-and-after shot of the car. The crash appeared to doom Long's comeback bid. But then Hermie Sadler jumped into the deal and is loaning Long his car for next week's Las Vegas race and the Atlanta race the week after.(see full story at the Winston Salem Journal)(2-28-2004)

[wackadoo]

Originally posted by jaydo
Ya know what ...? I this world of selfish ball players and $100 mil contracts i really wouldn't blame the players for m aking all that money (wouldn't you make 100 mill if your boss was willing to pay you that?) i would blame ownership for paying all that money.

sorry to change the subjetc...back to race talk now...

:::slowly backing out of the nascar thread:::

[jaydo]

Originally posted by wackadoo
i really wouldn't blame the players for m aking all that money (wouldn't you make 100 mill if your boss was willing to pay you that?) i would blame ownership for paying all that money.

sorry to change the subjetc...back to race talk now...

:::slowly backing out of the nascar thread:::


Hey you GET OUT OF HERE !!!!!! :hi2:


I totally agree with you wackadoo...Just pointing out how kewl it was for this guy who is Kinda broke himself to help out another less furtunate ......


I am a Yankke fan sooooooooo .....I love $money ball$....

[Ballbuster1]

Next up Vegas! Matt's bringing the same car he won with
last year. Looking for a repeat? Roush cars have always
been strong at this track.

[Marye]

Hello my friends!!! I bet you all thought I died, well I did sorta' - switched jobs at work in the fall, so now all I do all darn day is sit at a computer and trouble-shoot our new data-base. Needless to say by the time I get home, I don't to have anything to do with them!! But I was feeling sorta' low and then I realized I was missing my wackbag friends! So here I am!!

Wow, Daytona was needless to say very exciting for me. I hope you all enjoyed it - from reading the thread it looks like you did.

Qualifying is on now, I'm kinda' running back & forth - Kenseth just got bumped to 4th.

Is anyone planning on seeing that IMAX NASCAR movie? There isn't one of those theaters around here.

Well, more later as qualifying progresses.

Sorry, I haven't been around - I missed you guys!

[SpotcheckBilly]

Yay MaryE's back!! :clap: Another voice for the turn left only religion..welcome back Mary..

[Marye]

Thanks Spot - that's right gents, my motto is "drive fast, turn left"!!

Did anyone see the beginning to the Rockingham race when they were talking to DW and were referring to that awful day in 01, and then they showed Jr. crossing the finish line at Daytona with a "ghost" Sr next to him? That got me....

I'm listening to the TV from a different room,but did I hear the Gordon's car is broken or wrecked???? Aw, poor you!

[Ballbuster1]

Welcome Back, MaryE!
Kasey Kahne took the pole. Good start for the kid this year.
I see you found where I posted your sigpic!:xyxthumbs

[SpotcheckBilly]

Results here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/3/data/lineup.html)

I'll take an 11th..:clap:

[jaydo]

Originally posted by SpotcheckBilly
[

I'll take an 11th..:clap:


Kewl Spot has a race car!!!!!!!!!!!:hi2:

[jaydo]

I am so sorry!!!! Marye WELCOME BACK!!!!!:hi2: :clap: :clap: :hi2:

I read way to quick and missed you were back....again so sorry...I am an ::hammer:

Looking foward to your imput on the best nascar driver ever ...............MATT KENSETH!!!!!!!!:loll2:

[Marye]

Hi Jay!!!! Thanks for the welcome back!

It oughta be good tomorrow - 25th & 26th - our boys together again! Can't wait either, Matt's a helluva a driver.

Hi BAllbuster!!! Wow, you've got a HOT car! Sets off the car alarms - I love it! Like you said, nothing like good old American horsepower! I'm so in love with the yellow this year. Been looking at the Monte Carlos in that color. There's a Na$car edition in yellow, but there's also just a "plain" yellow without the decals. It's so me.

But, the gentleman of the household wants a new truck, so I'll probably get his hand-me-down Mountaineer...... but that's okay, I've got my #8 sticker on it already!!!!

Good to "see" you all again - I really missed it all.

[Ballbuster1]

#38 fastest in happy hour. Right behind him is pole sitter Kahne.
This kid may be a new star. He finished 2nd to Harvick in today's
Busch race. That's 2 - 2nd place finishes in a row. He's gonna have
a tough season though. He's running both the Busch & Cup series
full time this year. Just like Harvick did when Dale died.
I wish him good luck. That's a tall order to fill once they start
running at different tracks.

[SpotcheckBilly]

Congrats to Matt! Great race. sorry about Jr's trouble, that really sucked. Nice finish for the #38 as well.

Results here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/3/data/results_unofficial.html):liljim:

[Ballbuster1]

I had Matt at the top of my racing league.
He brought the same car from last year and
I had a feeling he would cruise to another
win today. Another good finish for Kahne.

[jaydo]

http://i.cnn.net/nascar/2004/news/headlines/cup/03/07/bc.car..nascar.lasvegas.ap/kenseth_vl_xl.jpg

I can just hear it now!!! " CAN SOMEONE ELSE WIN A RACE"


After just one win lastyear. Matty moonshine already has two earlly in the season..And he is in a fimilar spot. Atop the leaderbaord......:clap:


Now of to Atlanta we go!!!!!!!!!!

[Ballbuster1]

Yeah, Jaydo. There is always somebody lookin to bitch.
Last year the Truck and Busch series had 2 of the closest
seasons ever using the same points system. Matt was just
the most consistant, good finishing driver and it showed.
Now I think he's on a mission to prove he's not just content
to finish well, but can win races too. Good for him!

[jaydo]

Originally posted by Ballbuster1
Yeah, Jaydo. There is always somebody lookin to bitch.
Last year the Truck and Busch series had 2 of the closest
seasons ever using the same points system. Matt was just
the most consistant, good finishing driver and it showed.
Now I think he's on a mission to prove he's not just content
to finish well, but can win races too. Good for him!



Thats why you ROCK!!!!!! buster ...you are not like the rest of the " So called fans"... You know the same people who boo Mark Martin ???? ////I am a fan of Nascar in general ...I just happen to root for Kenseth more then anyone else.. When I go to loudon...There are people who Boo ...Just cuz they are " trying to be a Fan "/// But why ???? I dont get it ! I have never booed a driver and never will ...The crowed is made up of 40% Gordon. 50% JR. and the left over 10%,,,there drivers get booed by the crowd....... But then again The Gordon fans boo Jr and Vice-Versa.... Just ...Thinking out loud!!!!!

[jaydo]

Newman: First, fastest Imagine That!!!!!!
Golden Corral 500
Rank Car Driver
1 12 Ryan Newman
2 25 Brian Vickers
3 48 Jimmie Johnson
4 24 Jeff Gordon
5 38 Elliott Sadler
:clap:

And the rest :http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/4/data/lineup.html

[SpotcheckBilly]

Huh..who knew? Ryan Newman on the pole? :gt: "whaa"

[Ballbuster1]

All 3 of Hendricks' cars right behind him. The Gibb's boys do
well here. Hopefully they will thrash Gordo and his budd's.

[SpotcheckBilly]

I only saw the last 10 laps..Congrats to Jr. and Matt. Too much B-Ball stuff today.


Results Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/4/data/results_unofficial.html)

[Ballbuster1]

Way to go J.R.! #8 Here's the quickie Spot, the race didn't get real good til
it was half over. Stewart was runnin away with it, then cautions came, a
few motors went and then things picked up.Yeah, a great run for Matty,
cause at one time he was a lap down and several spots back. He kept pluggin,
got his lap back and finished in the top10. That's why he's the defending champ!

[jaydo]

:clap: http://www.nascar.com/video/nascar/2004/03/14/cup.atl.audio.winner.med.jpg :clap: He really earned it this week .... I was shiting my pants when Matt was a lap down . I thought he would never get it back .. It looks like a Jr ...Kenseth shoot out this year !!!! AND I LIKE IT!!!!!!

[Ballbuster1]

Yeah, Jaydo. Matt's still got it and it looks like even though he had
a tough time at Vegas, Jr. knows where he wants to be at the end
of the year. He sounds determined, more so than ever before.
By this time his father had been "Rookie of the Year" and a
Winston Cup Champion, so I think not having a Cup title is really
starting to bug him. Matt wants to prove he can still win alot of
races in a year, and still be the champ. Looks like the beginings of a great season!

[jaydo]

" The new Ryan Newman".........

http://i.cnn.net/nascar/2004/news/headlines/cup/03/19/qual_quick/kahne_newt1.jpg


1 9 Kasey Kahne
2 8 Dale Earnhardt Jr.
3 16 Greg Biffle
4 97 Kurt Busch

and the rest!!!!!!


here http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/5/data/lineup.html

Yes that is Derick Cope in 5th :clap: ,,,, I will bet !!!! MONEY that he has an " engine faliure " before the weekends out !!!!!!!

[SpotcheckBilly]

Ryan's slipping..only a sixth? :biggrinfl

38 #89 Morgan Shepherd Dodge Voyles/Carter's Royal Dispos-all 164.303 29.930 -1.292 He still running? What's he waiting for Social Security to kick in? :hi2:

[Ballbuster1]

I said it before, watch Kayne. He's got Ray as a team owner and
look what he did for Gordon. He's taken over Elliot's ride and
Ray got Bill a win after a long dry spell. There's real potential here.

[SpotcheckBilly]

Congrats to Jimmy Johnson..another great race at Darlington. Nice to see Gordo whining again, :hjhjhjgf:

Results Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/5/data/results_unofficial.html)

[Ballbuster1]

Nice to see Gordo whining again, :hjhjhjgf:
HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!
Thought Bobby Labonte had it in the bag til Petty dumped that motor.
Jimmy's pit drew put him where he needed to be, out front.
Good race today though. Points race tightened up alot.
Top 8 drivers within 100 pts. Jr trails Matt by 21! Good year shaping up.

[SpotcheckBilly]

I think 43 is a good number for the super-speedways..but what about at Bristol and Martinsville? Or even Darlington, which is essentially a one groove track. Wouldn't it be better to go to a smaller field, like maybe 36..or 32. I agree with the past champions provisional..but it may be time to rethink some of the others..Article (http://www.nascar.com/2004/news/headlines/cup/03/21/jgordon_wreck/index.html)

[Ballbuster1]

As much as it pains me to admit it, Gordo has a point. Due to the
lack of teams without full time sponsors, the field is left open to
smaller, less organized teams. This does create a problem at times.
Problem is, how do you develop a standard for who can race and
who can't? Make them run within a certain percentage of the fastest
qualifier? Most teams don't have alot of provisionals so they still
need to race their way into the show. It's a problem that needs to be
addressed, I'm just not sure how it wil be fixed.

[SpotcheckBilly]

It has to be done at qualifying. Set a minimum speed for each track, and enforce it for qualifying, and race day. You don't make the speed, you go home. and that wreck was stewarts fault..lol.

From: racefan3815 Mar-22 11:36 am
To: bmallen (5 of 1012)

50.5 in reply to 50.1

I think that there should be a minimum speed requirement in qualifying, just as there is during the race. Any car that can't run within a certain percentage of the pole speed should not be eligible to participate in the race. I don't care if that car belong to DEI, PE or a small independent team, they should not be given the opportunity to compete.

[Ballbuster1]

No doubt Stewart punted him. He was in Tony's way and
Smoke didn't like it.
My point with qualifing is that the smaller teams don't have the
provisionals to get in anyway, so they get a good lap and get
into the show but still can't hold their own on race day. They're
still there. How do they fix that?

[SpotcheckBilly]

Minimum speed for each track..for qualifying as well as race day..they have to do something. The fields are too clogged, now. Black flag them, I guess if the can't stay in the percentage of track speed. no easy answer, Buster.

[Ballbuster1]

By Marty Smith on Nascar.com:
But to me, Happy Hour is far more telling. Two-lap bonsai runs on sticker tires don't give a true indication of a car's performance potential.
Maybe like F-1, they need a qualifing session not just a quick lap or 2.
Alot of guys can put it to the boards for a quick lap, but can they maintain it?
That's where the problem lies.

[Ballbuster1]

BRISTOL!!!!!!!!!!!
I love short tracks, lots of beatin and bangin!
Hope someone other than the Rubbermaid Gnome
will win it this time.

[SpotcheckBilly]

Guess who's on the pole? :sleeping

Results Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/6/data/lineup.html)

[Ballbuster1]

Yesterday's Busch race was awsome. Red flag at the end.
Restart with 9 to go. Down to 3 when they start wreckin,
and Nascar tries to let it go green to the end! Finally drop
the caution on the last lap but it's too late. Bangin and
bumpin, Johnny Benson fumin, everybody called to the
Big Blue Trailer. Today should be some fun!

[Ballbuster1]

Today was great. Rusty was on a mission but a couple of late
cautions and the red flag kept him from beatin Rubberhead to
his 4th Bristol win. McMurray and Matty bumped a few times and
McMurray punted Matt on the pit road enterance at the end.
Classic Bristol. I love it!!

[SpotcheckBilly]

Great race as always..I love Bristol almost as much as Darlington, and my home track Richmond. Results Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/6/data/results_unofficial.html). I think Rusty could have taken Rubberhead, if it weren't for all the late cautions..too bad.

Question: What was D.W. talking about at the end, when he said he'll be cleared by the doctor next week, and will run Martinsville in two weeks. What series? Cup? Is my favorite driver coming back?:biggrinfl

[Ballbuster1]

Best guess is D.W. will be drivin one of them there
Toyoter trucks!

[jaydo]

Dale Jr. docked points, fined for Bristol spin

heres the link!!!!!!!!!!!http://www.nascar.com/2004/news/headlines/cup/03/31/dearnhardtjr._penalty/index.html

[Ballbuster1]

Not sure that I buy it was intentional, I think he was trying to
figure out if he had a tire going flat. But he did stay out way too
long guessin at what it was and he could have wrecked somebody
else when he spun. Maybe this will let everyone know, if you
have a problem, then pit! Don't endanger everyone else.

[jaydo]

Hey BB1 .. I was watching inside Nextel cup. On Mon. and they said it was intentional. They were all laughing at the timeing of a " spinout" ...

[Ballbuster1]

Originally posted by jaydo
Hey BB1 .. I was watching inside Nextel cup. On Mon. and they said it was intentional. They were all laughing at the timeing of a " spinout" ...
Maybe.....if ya need a caution, hell bring one out!

[SpotcheckBilly]

His old man did it at least once...:biggrinfl

Earnhardt spun in Turn 2 and radioed his crew that he had intentionally spun out to keep from losing a lap. In numerous post-race media interviews Earnhardt continued to say he had intentionally spun his car to create a caution that prevented him from losing a lap.

"The driver of the No. 8 car was quite vocal in admitting he intentionally spun out his car to cause a caution condition on the track, which is clearly prohibited in the NASCAR Rule Book," NASCAR president Mike Helton said. "We have several rules in our rule book that have been in place for quite some time to prevent someone from altering the outcome of an event.
:biggrinfl

[Ballbuster1]

Ok........certainly can't say it was an accident now.
He needs to become a better liar if he's gonna pull
stunts like that! Come on Jr, be creative!:biggrinfl

[SpotcheckBilly]

Bobby Labonte on the pole!! He owns that track..nice to see a vet on the pole for a change.

Results here. (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/7/data/lineup.html)

[Ballbuster1]

Originally posted by SpotcheckBilly
Bobby Labonte on the pole!! He owns that track..nice to see a vet on the pole for a change.
Bill Elliot on the outside! Extra Nice!!!!!!!!:clap:

[SpotcheckBilly]

Nice!! A photo finish, and a win for the #38! Sadler gets better every week.

Results Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/7/data/results_unofficial.html)

[Ballbuster1]

Great finish! Sadler & Kahne running for the line.
Second time this year the kid lost by a few feet!
Great win for Elliot, nice to see him back in Victory Lane. :xyxthumbs

[SpotcheckBilly]

No Cup race this week..so I'll post the Busch Pole Results. Truex on the pole.

Results Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/bg/2004/7/data/lineup.html)

[Ballbuster1]

That's the car Jr. co-owns with Theresa Earnhardt. Kid's doin good this year.
Only 17 points outta first behind David Green. Should be a good race, Nashville's
a decent track.
Next week..... D W runs a Toyota at Martinsville !

[Ballbuster1]

From NASCAR. COM

Jimmy, you've obviously got your Saturday afternoons free, and your Toyota remarks created more media attention than you figured. If a Toyota team called and said 'Hey, we want you to drive,' would you do it?

The whole thing about the whole Toyota truck deal that bothers me – nobody, none of the reporters that I saw – reported the whole thing the way it was supposed to be reported.

But that is life. You know, the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7, 1941, at least that is what I was taught in school.

http://i.cnn.net/nascar/2004/news/features/conversation/04/10/jspencer_convo/spencer6.jpg

And it was meant to have a fun intent to it, and if they went on and listened to that rest of that answer to the question, about the building the Houston plant and the way Toyota is going to help the Truck Series, the whole nine yards, they missed the whole thing.

I think sometimes people are blindsided. They keep their blinders on like a racehorse and they don't want to know what is going on beyond what they want to focus on. To me, that thing got blown way out of shape.

I think Toyota is going to be good for the Truck Series. Once again, will I drive one? I'll drive anything that has four tires and wheels on it. Gotta luv Jimmy, even though he's not real good, he's real people! LOL !

[jaydo]

:yclap: /JIMMY/:yclap: ....I love the honesty!!!!!!

[Ballbuster1]

I'll drive anything that has four tires and wheels on it.
Jimmy gets my vote for quote of the season ! A true racer !!!:bigok

[SpotcheckBilly]

Gordo on the Pole! Should be a great race Sunday!!

Line-up (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/8/data/lineup.html)

Line-up for the Truck Race! DW starts 21st.

Truck Race (http://www.nascar.com/races/truck/2004/3/data/lineup.html)

[jaydo]

Gordo on the Pole!!!





Insert joke hear !!!!!!!!!!!! TeeHee !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ...

[Ballbuster1]

Damn, Happy's not racing a truck at Martinsville this year?
He's always good for a little excitement.
Ow, well..........GO D.W.!!!!!!!!!! Give 'em hell pops!!!!!!!!!

[Ballbuster1]

DOH !!!!!! Green, white, checkers restart and D.W. got
tangled up and spun on the last lap. Ended up 24th.

[SpotcheckBilly]

RUSTY!!

[Ballbuster1]

Long time comin for Rusty. 105 or 106?
Nice finish for JR. too. Retakes the points lead!

[SpotcheckBilly]

I think they said 108..Results Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/8/data/results_unofficial.html)

[Ballbuster1]

Nascar.com shows it as 105. He's lucky Gordo got
popped with that piece of debris from the track.
The 24 looked like the fastest car almost all day.

[jaydo]

This might be a little off topic for " The Nascar thread" But,,,, This sucks for Todd!!!! read......... And Thumbs up to Rusty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.nascartouring.com/featherlitemodifiedseries/

[SpotcheckBilly]

Nice! First pole for the Wood Bros. since 1984 with Buddy Baker...lol. Congrats to Ricky Rudd. Line-up Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/9/data/lineup.html)

[Ballbuster1]

Nice for Ricky. Beat out Mikey and Jr. for the top slot.
Good lookin retro paint scheme too.

[Papagolash]

from jayski.com

Some Rockingham Notes/Comments: Rockingham has gone the way of North Wilkesboro. And Hickory. And Bowman Gray. And Raleigh. And Asheville-Weaverville. The news out of Daytona is, once again, sad. We will race no more at North Carolina Motor Speedway. NASCAR will sacrifice it for a second race at Texas as a part of a convoluted settlement of a convoluted lawsuit. NCMS will be dropped from the 2005 schedule. The next schedule will also be without one of the Darlington events, the old track finally losing out to progress and legal battles. Phoenix is expected to add a second race for the 2005 season as the sport continues a trend away from its Southern roots toward nationalism. The official announcements will not come until later in the summer, and few people in the sport were willing to talk as the news trickled out this week. People in and around Rockingham were more than willing. "We're mad, we're angry and we're disappointed that we weren't given a chance," Rockingham city manager Monty Crump said. "This was a done deal. We were set up to fail." There's a lot of truth behind Crump's claim. The races at Rockingham could've easily been saved by moving the winter race to the summer, by adding lights and by NASCAR acknowledging that North Carolina Motor Speedway was an important part of the sport.(more at the Roanoke Times)(4-23-2004)


2nd Race at Vegas too? even though it wasn't mentioned in the TMS getting 2nd race in 2005? story, am hearing that Las Vegas Motor Speedway has a good chance at getting a 2nd Cup race in 2005.
AND ISC wants Bruton Smith to give up the all-star race, which has been at Smith's Charlotte track for nearly 20 years, a gift from R. J. Reynolds. Smith says he is adamant about keeping the race. However sources say that Smith has been offered a second Cup race at Las Vegas in exchange for the all-star race. The all-star race, after all, does belong to NASCAR, and it could easily be "repossessed." Whatever happens to the all-star race, it is not expected to remain as a race on a standalone weekend.(Winston Salem Journal)(4-23-2004)

[Ballbuster1]

Bummer! Too many of these cookie cutter speedways.
The sport is losing that small, southern track schedule
that made it's racing so great. Money changes everything.

[Papagolash]

Yea it sucks. I heard that Vegas may be renovating to have 3 grove banking, each at different degrees like they did at Homestead. The problem with the Rock is that the races weren't selling out. IMO the best racing is short track racing. Bristol is my favorite track, and probably why Rusty Wallace, the king of short track racing is my favorite driver. There needs to be more short tracks made. I would LOVE a short track race at the Meadowlands, something like Richmond styled track.

[Ballbuster1]

Bristol at night. My favorite race. Sparks from the cars
bottoming out, rotors glowing from the heavy braking,
tire's leaving doughnuts on the other cars.
Pissed off driver's throwin stuff at each other.
That's Nascar!

[SpotcheckBilly]

Another cheap win for Gordon. Another big wreck caused by Tony Stewart. Yoy Jr. fans must be Pissed! Results Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/9/data/results_unofficial.html)

and you're right papa, losing Rockingham really sucks, and could have been avoided. :(

[Ballbuster1]

Why end a race under caution? People pay big bucks to go
and then watch them cruise for 5 laps to the end. Pathetic.
They need to finish likes the Craftsman Truck Series.
Green flag / Whtie flag / Checkers! A guarenteed
sprint to the finish. Definately better than the Cup Series
red flag rules.
Nice points day for my boy anyway! #8

[SpotcheckBilly]

That was really stupid..why not let them run another 3 or 4 laps? I had so many people at work today ask me about the finish, who don't watch the races. It just makes it look like it's FIXED!! :fight6:

[Ballbuster1]

Yeah, were the fans pissed or what?
They litterally "trashed" the track!


http://i.cnn.net/nascar/2004/news/headlines/cup/04/26/talladega_debris/cans1.jpg

[Papagolash]

I don't know why the fuck people are bitching so much about the ending of this race. Not just here but everywhere else. Did everyone forget that this was one of the most exciting Talladega races ever? Can anyone recall another time that there was more bumping between cars here than at Martinsville? All the lead changes( 54!!), bump drafting, all the fucking great driving by drivers saving their cars when being hit and going sideways. That was one helluva race. Sure it sucks that they didn't finish the race under green but they already passed the lap for a red flag. When the yellow came out and the field was frozen Gordon was in the lead, and the replays show that, so that's that. NASCAR doesn't do green/white/ last lap restarts at Tally and Daytona due to saftey. With the ways the cars are set up today and how they race so close why take the chance of having that shootout when one car can crash and cause yet another big one at the end of the race? It's not worth the risk of the drivers saftey and cost to the teams. Not to mention that it was taking a couple of laps to clean the track anyway in the previous cautions, and they wouldn't be able to clean the track in time for a 1 lap shootout. The idiotic fans throwing shit on the track didn't fucking help either. That disgusted me and made me ashamed to be a NASCAR fan.

[Ballbuster1]

Typical responce from a Gordon fan.



http://www.budshop.com/budshop/images/gui/racing.jpg
The REAL WINNER!:biggrinfl (j/k, papa)

[Papagolash]

Oh I'd kick you in the fucking nuts if you said that to me in person :icon_wink

Me a Gordo boy??!!!? HAHAHAHAHAAH

I'm a Rusty fan, I don't like Wonderboy, Gordo, Wonderfag, whatever I like calling him. I'm also a Jr fan but I wanted either Martin or Harvick to win that race, to finally beat Jr because he's the man to beat. To me it's more exciting. Yea it sucks that Gordo won, even moreso since my friend's a huge Gordo fan, but I was OK with the way the race ended. It sucked a bit but hey, it's NASCAR's rules and call.


....Gordon fan....:icon_mad:



edit: I just noticed the "j/k Papa" part. Damn I'm dumb. Look how angry you got me, making me not pay attention!


Typical responce from a Gordon fan.



http://www.budshop.com/budshop/images/gui/racing.jpg
The REAL WINNER!:biggrinfl

[SpotcheckBilly]

http://www.mynascarhomepage.ezhoster.com/Nascar-Gordon-Hate-02_212x307.jpg

[Ballbuster1]

Kasey Kahne out in front for the Auto Club 500 in Calif.

http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/10/data/lineup.html

Bunch of rookies in the top 10. Gotta set the vcr and catch
it later, going to Conn. for the weekend in a couple of minutes.:biggrinfl

[SpotcheckBilly]

I didn't see it, but my wife swears she saw Brooke in the background, wearing a t-shirt that said "ditch him" in the winners circle. Congrats to Jeffy, and Matt. Tony Stewart makes an ass of himself, once again.

Results Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/10/data/results_unofficial.html)

[Ballbuster1]

Thanx for makin my weekend even worse.......
didn't win a dime at the casino and Gordo wins again! :arrrh:

[Papagolash]

I hope Rusty fucking takes out Tony next race. God damn, Rusty ranting about Tony was classic. Reminds me of when I was beginning to get into NASCAR and Rusty would be ranting about Dale E.

[SpotcheckBilly]

Why is there no race on Mothers Day? Don't women make up 40 something % of the fan base? Is it because ratings would be way down? They should give the date to Martinsville next year.

[Ballbuster1]

What the hell did Tony do to Rusty?
I gotta watch the tape I made. Damn, I'm lazy.:hamm:

[Ballbuster1]

Why is there no race on Mothers Day? Don't women make up 40 something % of the fan base? Is it because ratings would be way down? They should give the date to Martinsville next year.It's that southern baptist mentality thing. No races on Easter,
no races on mom's day, and try to finish before Thanksgiving.

[Ballbuster1]

No racin today. Last night's Busch race in St. Louis was a good one.
Dale Jr's boy , Martin Truex Jr. led the most laps , put the #8
Taco Bell car in victory lane , and took the points lead. Nice.:icon_cool
Two #8 cars as champs this year? It would be a dream come true.:clap9:

[Ballbuster1]

What a great weekend comin up. Night racin at Richmond !
Busch series kicks it off on Friday night , with the Cup cars
on Sat. night. Sunday gets a new truck race in Ohio. Cool :xyxthumbs

[SpotcheckBilly]

This is my hometown..and my favorite race. Short-track beatin' and bangin'. Except for Bristol, it just doesn't get any better.

[Ballbuster1]

This is my hometown..and my favorite race. Short-track beatin' and bangin'. Except for Bristol, it just doesn't get any better. Yeah, I love short track night racin. It's effinin awsome.:clap9:
http://www.nascar.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/2003/05/03/richmond_cup/park_mcmurray.jpg

[SpotcheckBilly]

Brian Vickers on the pole.."whaa" who?

Line-up Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/11/data/lineup.html)

[Ballbuster1]

Brian Vickers on the pole.."whaa" who?LOL, how can the kid go wrong? Like it or not Gordo is part of
Hendrick's Motorsports, He's a 4 time champ and a good mentor.
Look for big things from this kid.

[Marye]

Richmond broke my Nascar Cherry!!! My daughter is going tomorrow. I personally still like the big tracks. Richmond is okay, but it's hard to get there at 8 or 9 in the morning and drink all day until the race, but hey, that's just me!.

Hey Spot!

[Marye]

Oh, and may I just add that I just got a Monte Carlo SS??? No, I'm not that much of a fanatic, it's not red!!! It's Silver. I'm calling it the Milwaukee's Best Chevrolet. Though, there's just a few #8 references on it........nothing permanent like a bumper-sticker. Had a red car, just a big target in my opinion (pretty though) almost hurt my baby-girl had it been a small car. It was a Chrysler LHS. Stop laughing, I know it's not cool, but it was luxurious. Then, I let my daughter drive it, so much for that.

[SpotcheckBilly]

Richmond broke my Nascar Cherry!!! My daughter is going tomorrow. I personally still like the big tracks. Richmond is okay, but it's hard to get there at 8 or 9 in the morning and drink all day until the race, but hey, that's just me!.

Hey Spot! Where have you been,girl ? :action-sm

The big tracks are okay, but I like the beating and banging and fights at the short tracks. wb marye

[Ballbuster1]

Welcome back Marye.
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/v3451/Jr..jpg
3rd win of the season.:clap:
This Bud's for you. :drunk:

[Ballbuster1]

NEXTEL CUP CHALLENGE
It's all about the pride and big bucks this weekend.
Qualifing for the open on Speed tonight, followed
by a truck race at Lowe's raceway. Lots of new
paint on the cars so far. I love this weekend.
Great, flat out, balls to the wall racing.:clap:

[Ballbuster1]

Two line-ups for the Challenge. First, the "open" for last
years losers:
Nextel Open (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/103/data/lineup.html)
Next, all the "big boys" of Nascar. T/G Newman
didn't win it:
Nextel Cup Challenge (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/105/data/lineup.html)

[SpotcheckBilly]

Ah so it's an All-Star race? Kinda like the Winston? :stomp: gd pc non-smoking allowing fayggots.

[Ballbuster1]

Just finished watchin the tape I made of last night's races.

Sterlin brought the Coors Light Dodge home in 1st place for
the elimination race. And in a new twist, fans voted Ken Shrader
as a tranfer to the big race too. Nice.

In the main event they ran 40, 30, and 20 laps.
Matty brings it home in the end and snags a cool
million bucks. Beat Newman about 2 laps from the
end. Even NICER !:icon_mrgr

[SpotcheckBilly]

nice bump at the end.. :)

[Ballbuster1]

This is the weekend for racin.....actually Sunday.
The Indy 500 followed by the Coke 600.
Full day of goin fast. I love it.
Robby Gordon doin the "double".
Lots of cars and beer for me on Sunday!:icon_mrgr

[SpotcheckBilly]

Full day on the couch for me!! Looking forward to it. Indy & the World 600!! A full day of Racin'..and Beer. :xyxthumbs

[SpotcheckBilly]

Jimmy Johnson on the pole.. nice 4th for the #38.

World 600 Results Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/12/data/lineup.html)

[Ballbuster1]

Thank god we are back to the origional name:
COCA-COLA 600
That World 600 shit never sounded right.
Jeffy's boy Jimmy out front, with "cryan" Newman
next to him. He was whinin to Nascar about all the
daytime practice while most of the race is at night.
Get a life. It's been this way for years. Deal with it!
I love this race. Can't wait for Sunday!:clap4:

[SpotcheckBilly]

The "World 600" is the original name for the race, going back to when I was a kid, and the Charlotte World newspaper sponsored it. I use the original name, because I don't feel like shilling for Coca Cola. Just a personal thing, I guess.

That being said..I love this race. It's the longest, and one of the best. I can't wait.

[Ballbuster1]

::hammer: DOH, my bad. Either way , still a great race.
And yeah, nice starting spot for Elliot. Hope he does well.:xyxthumbs

[Ballbuster1]

Rubberhead's kid brother Kyle won the Busch race today.
That gives him the point lead over Truex Jr. by a few points.
The Busch series might be a tight one if these 2 keep it up.:xyxthumbs
Can't wait for tomorrow's race:
600 miles @ 9 grand.
Who's not gonna make it to the end????:clap9:

[SpotcheckBilly]

Results Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/12/data/results_official.html)

Nice win for Jimmy, top 10 for the #8 & #38. not a bad finish at all.

[Ballbuster1]

Results Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/12/data/results_official.html)

Nice win for Jimmy, top 10 for the #8 & #38. not a bad finish at all.Yeah, Jr got out with the points lead still intact, so I'm happy.
But it was getting real boring watchin Gordo's boy puttin almost
the entire field a lap down so fast. Some body should have "punted"
him into the wall and taken a penalty just to make it interesting.:icon_mrgr

[SpotcheckBilly]

I know somebody's dad would have... :gt:

Schrader or Petty or Texas Terry could have, LOL

[SpotcheckBilly]

Dover!! Mayfield blows the field away with a new track record..Line Up Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/13/data/lineup.html)

have a good vacation, buster.

[Ballbuster1]

Dover!! Mayfield blows the field away with a new track record..Line Up Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/13/data/lineup.html)

have a good vacation, buster.I'm just wondering when they are gonna drop the engine size
limit to slow these cars down. They are getting alot faster than
some of these tracks were built for. Great racing for the fans,
but maybe a problem for the drivers.

[SpotcheckBilly]

What a fucked up race..Mark Martin steals a win!! :xyxthumbs nice!

Results Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/13/data/results_unofficial.html)

[Papagolash]

from jayski.com, my man Rusty having some fun. Man I hope there's some video of this, I wouls love to see it.



Rusty hits 228mph at Talladega: #2-Rusty Wallace gave a new meaning to the term "high speed communication" on Wednesday afternoon when he piloted his Miller Lite Dodge at speeds up to 228 mph at Talladega Superspeedway. "We hit 228 (mph) at the end of the straightaway and averaged 221 (mph) for that overall lap segment," an excited Wallace said late Wednesday afternoon as he prepared to head back home to North Carolina. "It was a helluva deal that I certainly will remember for the rest of my life. We'd all been wondering what it would feel like to run at Talladega again without the (restrictor-) plates and now I know. I'll bet we could be running speeds up to 235 (mph) without the plates if we spent time doing some tweaking. But I'll tell you this - there's no way we could be out there racing at those speeds," Wallace offered. "It was neat to be out there running that fast by myself, but it would be insane to think we could have a pack of cars out there doing that."
Wallace's high-speed opportunity came at the request of NASCAR officials on behalf of series sponsor NEXTEL and Racing Radios, the Hampton, Ga.,-based company that serves as the "Official 2-Way Radio provider" for all three of the major NASCAR racing series. "I've enjoyed a long-standing relationship with Racing Radios and I jumped at the opportunity to assist them with their 'Communication of the Future' program for NASCAR," Wallace said. "We were invited to bring our Miller Lite Dodge superspeedway car down for the test to assure quality audio at high rates of speed. The NASCAR, NEXTEL and Racing Radios officials were all extremely pleased at the end of the day, so I'd say that we did a good job for them." Wallace's speed far exceeded the official track qualifying record of 212.809mph (44.998 seconds), set by Bill Elliott on April 30, 1987.
"I guess it was about as official as you could get as we were operating under the watchful eyes of NASCAR," chuckled crew chief Larry Carter, who flew to Talladega with Wallace after testing at Sonoma, Calif., on Tuesday. "John Darby (NASCAR NEXTEL Cup Series Director) and Buster Auton (long-time series official who has served as the pace car driver since 1997) were in charge, along with officials from Racing Radios and NEXTEL. So, there were plenty of witnesses on hand.(Tom Roberts PR)(6-10-2004)

[SpotcheckBilly]

That's friggin nuts..somebody would get killed for sure. I'd sure like to see it as well, though.

On to Pocono this week. Kasey Kahne's on the pole.

Lineup Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/14/data/lineup.html)

[Ballbuster1]

Just got in and watched a tape of the race. Mark squeeked one
out there. Strange calls by Nascar at the end. I guess when you
own the series you get to make up the rules. Nice points race
for Jr. Pocono, baby! In my home state this weekend !

[Papagolash]

I dind't see last weeks race but I heard yesterday that NASCAR gave the wrong person the lucky dog free pass. They gave it to Martin instead of someone else.

[Ballbuster1]

More strange things near the end of the race. Total confusion due
to Nascar's constant changing of the rules. They really need to get
everyone on the same page before the race starts.

On a lighter note......great beatin and bangin between Harvick &
Matty.:hamm: Maybe they should try that when the caution flag isn't out.
It wouldn't look so obvious. :biggrinfl

I still vote for a Green/ White/ Checkers, finish like the truck series.
Finishing up at 55 mph just plain sucks.:icon_evil

[SpotcheckBilly]

I wasn't even gonna comment on it..I hate when they finish under caution. Happy and Matty beating and banging on each other was the high point of the race for me.. :fight6:

Results Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/14/data/results_unofficial.html)

[Ballbuster1]

Dave Blaney is gonna replace Johnny Sauter in the #30 Chevy
for RCR. Richard feels Dave has more experience and will do better
this year. Nice for Dave. I always thought he was good, just needed
better backing. Full story here. (http://www.nascar.com/2004/news/headlines/cup/06/15/dblaney_rcr/index.html)

[Ballbuster1]

Happy and Matty got fined 25 G's and put on probation for
the bumping and banging at Pocono. No big surprise there.
Full story here (http://www.nascar.com/2004/news/headlines/cup/06/16/mkenseth_kharvick/index.html)

[SpotcheckBilly]

Blah..Gordon on the pole, at the track I hate the most..The Penske Death Track.

Results Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/15/data/lineup.html)

[Ballbuster1]

Brian Vickers second again. The kid is hanging tuff
in his 1st year. Got a good ride and makin the best of it.

[jaydo]

Jerry Nadeau interview from I 95... Its 30 mins long but very good ...

Plus I am on the tape in the back ground ... http://oavirus.com/jerry-interview.mp3

[Ballbuster1]

Jerry Nadeau interview from I 95... Its 30 mins long but very good ...

Plus I am on the tape in the back ground ... http://oavirus.com/jerry-interview.mp3 (http://oavirus.com/jerry-interview.mp3)
Cool, will d/l it and check it out.:xyxthumbs

[SpotcheckBilly]

Another BULLSHIT finish. A wreck on the last lap, and they throw the fucking yellow? DW was right..let them race to the checkers. Who cares if a back-marker wrecked...I thought Kahne was gonna catch Newman. Fucking bullshit.
:fight6:

Results Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/15/data/results_unofficial.html)

[Ballbuster1]

Yeah, that was total bullshit. The kid deserved a shot at the win.
He was beat up early in the race , but came back strong.
It was the last lap, wtf are they doing????
They really need to get their shit together.

[SpotcheckBilly]

Road course this week..Gordons on the pole..:hjhjhjgf: Nice spots for Rusty,and Kenseth..

Line-up (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/16/data/lineup.html)

[Stinkysteve]

I watched the second half of this race, NO WONDER THEY ONLY LIKE TO MAKE THE RACE IN OVAL!!!
Left and right turns don't mix with these guys...
They kept spinning out on the right turn and losing tires and wheels.
I hope they keep these guys off the streets.

[Hoagie]

I watched the second half of this race, NO WONDER THEY ONLY LIKE TO MAKE THE RACE IN OVAL!!!
Left and right turns don't mix with these guys...
They kept spinning out on the right turn and losing tires and wheels.
I hope they keep these guys off the streets.
Three rights make a yellow flag.

[SpotcheckBilly]

It's culture shock..that why all the roads around Charlotte are big loops...otherwise people would get hurt.

[Ballbuster1]

That's what is so great about these road races. Most of these
guys have little experience driving a race car like that. Plus,
these cars aren't really built to do it well. Makes for some
really entertaining racing.:biggrinfl
Of course, Gordo won. He is one of the few who
really has his road racing shit together.

[Ballbuster1]

Looks like Tony didn't get enough out of those
"anger management" classes last year.:icon_evil
Stewart Fined by Nutcar (http://www.nascar.com/2004/news/headlines/cup/06/30/tstewart_sonoma/index.html)
Ya think he would have learned by now.::hammer:

[SpotcheckBilly]

Qualifying on Speed now..

[SpotcheckBilly]

Gordo on the pole...again :hjhjhjgf: Nice spot for Jr. also.

Results Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/17/data/lineup.html)



this is the Firecracker 400 damnit..Fuck Pepsi!!

[Ballbuster1]

Wow, only 9 Fords in the field. Chevy and Dodge are putting a hurtin
on Ford's racing program in Nascar. Gordo's on a streak, but the
DEI cars are right up front and will be all night!:clap:

[Ballbuster1]

Late start due to rain in Daytona. I got home from the beach
around 10:00 and they were just goin green for the 1st time.
Hendrick's cars looked very strong last night. Gordo and JJ
worked well together. Looks like DEI has some competition.

[SpotcheckBilly]

sorry, lost weekend..
Results Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/17/data/results_official.html)

[SpotcheckBilly]

:cry3: :hjhjhjgf: :yuck2: :sleeping :cry3: :hjhjhjgf: :yuck2: :sleeping

Fucking Gordon on the pole again... Lineup (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/18/data/lineup.html)

A cookie cutter track, with a cookie cutter driver on the pole..Who0T!

[Ballbuster1]

This is getting redickaless. Who does he think he is Ryan Newman?::hammer:

[SpotcheckBilly]

I'm pulling for Todd Szegedy today in the Busch race..his dad's a friend of mine, and Todd's friends with Jaydo.

[Ballbuster1]

Cool, I'll tape the race if I can't watch it and
see how he makes out.
Truck race tonight , too.:xyxthumbs

[SpotcheckBilly]

He didn't do so good..wrecked on lap 63..good experience though.

[Ballbuster1]

Yeah, I saw that. Sorry guys...shame, he had a decent starting spot, too.
Look what Nutcar is finally thinking of doing:
Green, White, Checkers! (http://www.nascar.com/2004/news/headlines/cup/07/10/green_white_checker/index.html)
It's about time!!!!!!

[Stinkysteve]

Anybody catch the Canadian Grand Prix cart race today? It would have been a hit with the CRA$HCAR fans, a lot of Ernhartd Sr. action, (read dirty race shit).

[Ballbuster1]

Nutcar looked more like the WWN, today. :fight6:
Big fight between the pit crews after Smokin Stewart
punted Kahne into the wall and caused a big wreck.
Tony went on to get his 1st win this season.
Talk about adding salt to the wound.

[SpotcheckBilly]

Ray Everenham wants to beat his ass!!

Link Here (http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-joliet&prov=ap&type=lgns)

[Ballbuster1]

NASCAR officials agreed with Stewart's version, saying afterward that the collision was simply a racing accident and there won't be any penalties. I totally agree....Rubbin's Racin, boy!:haha7:

[jaydo]

Hey peeps !!!!!!!!

Its been a while..... very busy at work ....and other things...:rolleyes: (Spot knows) I will be at loudon next weekend in the pits so I will get a ton of pics and post them if I can >>>> .....OOOOOOOohhhhhhhhhhh yeah!!!! GO MATT !!!!!!!! #17


Ceeya1!!!!!!! round

[Ballbuster1]

Nice ! Have fun Jaydo. They are off this week but Jr. is in Sunday's
Grand Am race with Boris Said driving a Vette. I will definately check
out that race.:xyxthumbs

[SpotcheckBilly]

Have fun jayboy!! Take some pics in the garage..

They're starting green,white,checkers at New Hampshire. Hoo Hoo, Buster they're ripping us off.

LINK HERE (http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-finishes&prov=ap&type=lgns)

[Ballbuster1]

They're starting green,white,checkers at New Hampshire. Hoo Hoo, Buster they're ripping us off.
Yeah ! I have been in favor of that for quite a few years.
If you pay big bucks to see a race, it oughta be
a green flag finish. Winning under caution sucks.

[SpotcheckBilly]

You'll never guess who's on the pole....give up yet? It's Ryan Newman. :haha7: I hope they get the race off, and Jay doesn't get too wet.. course he'll be so drunk he won't know the difference. :action-sm

Line up here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/19/data/lineup.html)

[Ballbuster1]

Jr's gonna start the race but give up the seat to his Busch Series driver,
Martin Truex. Still hurtin from that firey crash at Sonoma last week.
FULL STORY HERE (http://www.nascar.com/2004/news/headlines/cup/07/23/bc.car.nascar.newhampsh.ap/index.html)

[SpotcheckBilly]

Congrats to Kurt Busch..He ran a nice clean race. Too bad about Jr. hope he can drive next week at Pocono.

Results Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/19/data/results_unofficial.html/index.html)






5K...how cool is that. shhh.....:xyxthumbs:

[SpotcheckBilly]

Casey Mears on the pole..nice!! And 5th for the 38 car..Hope Jr. can stay in the car this week, Andretti is standing by.

Line-up Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/20/data/lineup.html)

[Ballbuster1]

Mears is a good kid. He'll get better.

Surprised to see DJ's kid get in on a provisional. Didn't
think they would have enough owner points for that.
Tough track for a rookie. We'll see if he can cut it.

[Ballbuster1]

Truex Jr. opened up his lead on Rubberhead's kid brother in the Busch
series with a nice run at Pike's Peak today. Still hopin for two #8
cars to be champions at the end of this season.:xyxthumbs

[24hrs-left]

Mears is a good kid. He'll get better.

Surprised to see DJ's kid get in on a provisional. Didn't
think they would have enough owner points for that.
Tough track for a rookie. We'll see if he can cut it.
Dj's son has run in Pocono a couple times in Arca, he may have even won there recently. I know he runs well there. His biggest problem today will be his car is not in the same league as the rest.

[Ballbuster1]

Dj's son has run in Pocono a couple times in Arca, he may have even won there recently. I know he runs well there. His biggest problem today will be his car is not in the same league as the rest.Exactly... there's a big difference in the cars and the drivers he'll be running
with this time. Pocono is a tough track to drive.
Hope they get the race in. I live about 75 miles south of it
and it's raining it's ass off here.:icon_conf

[SpotcheckBilly]

Results Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/20/data/results_unofficial.html)

welcome aboard 24hrs.. :xyxthumbs:

[Ballbuster1]

Man that was sumpthin. 17 cars out of the race. If they weren't crashin,
they were blowing up motors and transmissions. This really changes the
look of the "race to the chase". Lot of scrambling gonna be going on to
be in the top 10 after race 26.
Nice job by Elliot today. Puts him up to 6th in the points.
John Andretti did a great job keeping Jr from falling back
even further with such a bad car. Jr owes him big time.

[24hrs-left]

Dj's son has run in Pocono a couple times in Arca, he may have even won there recently. I know he runs well there. His biggest problem today will be his car is not in the same league as the rest.Looks like his biggest problem showed itself early. Never did hear what happened to Jason but he was off pretty early. Thanks for the greeting SB, although I have been here before I think I posted here once months ago:xyxthumbs

[24hrs-left]

Think Opie and Anthony will be at the "Sirius at Glenn" next weekend?

Iknow this isn't the Dump but it is nascar related. Let the fun begin Thursday

[Ballbuster1]

Nice O&A reference to the Glen.:clap: First we go to INDY!!!!!!
Brickyard 400's one of my fav's.:xyxthumbs
Maybe a repeat for Harvick and
the Goodwrench team? Dale Sr. would like that.
http://i.cnn.net/nascar/races/tracks/ims/images/trk_logo_100x80.gif

[24hrs-left]

Nice O&A reference to the Glen.:clap: First we go to INDY!!!!!!
Brickyard 400's one of my fav's.:xyxthumbs
Maybe a repeat for Harvick and
the Goodwrench team? Dale Sr. would like that.
http://i.cnn.net/nascar/races/tracks/ims/images/trk_logo_100x80.gif
Went there once a few years ago, but I like Charlotte the most. Then maybe Bristol, I like Indy on tv but not in person

[Ballbuster1]

Went there once a few years ago, but I like Charlotte the most. Then maybe Bristol, I like Indy on tv but not in personYeah, I go to Dover alot. Love that. Indy is great on tv, like Pocono.
Too big to really see it all in person. Short tracks are best for that.:xyxthumbs

[jaydo]

Welcome to BIZZARO world::::::::


Casey Mears has another pole . This getting really wierd now..... heres the link ... http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/21/data/lineup.html

[Ballbuster1]

Some of these kids are coming on strong this year.
The vets better watch it.:haha7:

[Hot Soup!!]

Mears winning the pole is like the Japanese guy winning it.

Dover and Charlotte are both great tracks. I've been to em both and both are always great races

[jaydo]

The vets better watch it.:haha7:


When did we get political in here!!!!!:action-sm http://www.macomb.k12.mi.us/wq/images/photo.gif



Oh you ment nascar vets ........my bad :rolleyes:

[Ballbuster1]

Apparently Nascar was not real happy with the way Gordon
and his team celebrated his 4th win at the Brickyard, lol. (http://www.nascar.com/2004/news/headlines/cup/08/08/jgordon_celebration/index.html)
Here's the rest of the results.:xyxthumbs (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/21/data/results_official.html)
And a first use of the Green/White/ Checkers rule. (http://www.nascar.com/2004/news/headlines/cup/08/08/green_white/index.html)
I liked it. It's about time.:clap:

[Hoagie]

Looks like NASCAR may be going the way of the NFL with celebrations.

[Ballbuster1]

Looks like NASCAR may be going the way of the NFL with celebrations.Yeah, all the big bucks in sports ruins everything. I hate it.

Rain cancelled qualifying for the ( OH, NO!!!! ) Sirius @ The Glen.
Line-up will be set by owner points. (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/22/data/lineup.html)

[SpotcheckBilly]

I'll miss tomorrows race, but I don't really like the road courses anyway. Yeah I agree they've kinda ruined it this year..at least for me,anyway.

[Papagolash]

seems like my man Rusty's going to be doing a farewell tour next year. McMurray to replace him after 2005?

from Jayski....

could McMurray end up in the #2 Miller Lite Dodge if Wallace retires after 2005? see below for the news on the Ganassi PR that McMurray is signed for 2005....(8-9-2004)
UPDATE: Jamie McMurray appears to be Roger Penske's top pick to join Penske South, according to team sources.(Winston Salem Journal)(8-14-2004)

[Ballbuster1]

I like the road courses. It's fun watchin some of these guys
try to figure out how to turn right. The really good racers
go to the front in this type of racing.

[SpotcheckBilly]

Gordons on the pole..think anybody'll pass him?

Too bad about Rusty..I hate seeing the older drivers retire. I miss DW.

[Ballbuster1]

Elliot Sadler on speed right now. (a trackside replay):action-sm

[SpotcheckBilly]

Poor Tony, he had stomach cramps all day!! Results Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/22/data/results_unofficial.html)

[Ballbuster1]

Poor Tony, he had stomach cramps all day!! Results Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/22/data/results_unofficial.html)They had Boris Said all suited up to replace him.
But you just can't get out of a car that is that good.
Bad day for Hendrick's cars. Lost 2 and Gordo barely made it.:icon_mrgr

[Papagolash]

Tony Stewert crapped himself, and still won the race. How fucking cool is that. This is the 3rd race in a row that NASCAR hasn't had proper footage of victory circle to show off sponcers. JJ got fined $10,000 2 weeks ago for knocking off powerade bottles off his car, Gordo lucked out when he didn't even go to victory circle at Indy last week, and now no victory circle speetches cause Tony had to run off to get a new fire suit and probably crap some more. Wonder if Tony'll get fined.

[Ballbuster1]

Wonder if Tony'll get fined.I would seriously doubt that. He was the 1 guy that really had
a legit reason for not wanting to be there.:icon_eek:





(look at me......I actually didn't say Siriusly........:icon_roll )

[24hrs-left]

I would seriously doubt that. He was the 1 guy that really had
a legit reason for not wanting to be there.:icon_eek:





(look at me......I actually didn't say Siriusly........:icon_roll )

Think Tony will wear a Depends this week?

[Ballbuster1]

Qualifying rained out. Set by owner's points again.......
GFS Marketplace 400 Line-up (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/23/data/lineup.html)

[Silent Game]

I can't believe my boy Jeremy actually snuck into the top 10 with only 3 top 5 finishes this season.
Kahne and Newman are right there though,and I guess you can't count out Martin and Jarrett either.
This is going to be interesting.

[Ballbuster1]

Martin was very fast in practice yesterday.
I wouldn't bet against him in this race.

[SpotcheckBilly]

Well he got a second... I'll have to watch the replay, but congrats to Greg Biffle!! Nice day for the Ford teams.Results Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/23/data/results_unofficial.html)

[Ballbuster1]

Definately watch the replay, Spot. Mark should have won that race.
Another busted motor for Johnson puts Gordo on the points lead.
3 to go til the chase splits the field........

[SpotcheckBilly]

Race tonight!! no COPS for me. I love Bristol the best of all the tracks. :icon_lol:

Lineup Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/24/data/lineup.html)

[Ballbuster1]

Jeffy up front for the Sharpie 500. (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/24/data/lineup.html)
I love night racin at Bristol.
Lots of sparks, wrecks and hot tempers.:icon_evil
Jr. won last night's Busch race. Nice........:icon_mrgr

[SpotcheckBilly]

haha double post! nice buster.

[SpotcheckBilly]

for papa.. sorry.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-wallaceretirement&prov=ap&type=lgns

[Papagolash]

for papa.. sorry.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar-wallaceretirement&prov=ap&type=lgns


:( I'm going to miss him. I have a bunch of drivers that I like a lot, but nowhere near Rusty.

[SpotcheckBilly]

(((XM))) adds another Nascar channel, with Busch and Truck coverage!

Story Here (http://www.nascar.com/2004/news/headlines/official/08/30/xm_radio/index.html)

I hear ya papa, I've been bummed ever since DW retired, and now Mark Martin's gonna go also. :(

[slap happy]

sounds cool especially the in car radio. this will help me get back into NASCAR. i havent followed that closely since the mid 90's. it sucks that all the drivers i use to follow are either out of racing or starting to retire. sad to hear rusty is hanging it up, but if your hearts not in something why waste your time.

goodbye F1 hello NASCAR!

[Hot Soup!!]

The XM nascar channel rules. More better

BTW Get the new EA Nascar game. A Fooking mazing

[slap happy]

just picked up the new NASCAR Chase for the Cup. All the reviews ive read said its awesome. you get to race dirt track, trucks, Busch, and Cup. Nice! gonna play it here in a bit.

[SpotcheckBilly]

I thought it was gonna be all Dodges tonight. Nice to see million dollar Bill up there again..Line-up here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/25/data/lineup.html) :action-sm

[Farside]

Any of you guys play Nascar Racing Season 2003 by Papyrus? IMO the greatest Nascar game period. No arcadey physics, no "intimidation" button, full 43 car field online, and mods out the ass... including CTS, BGN, Trans Am, IROC and dirt to name a few. Its truely a sim though so it may turn off those people who just want to race. By that I mean you need to work on set-ups and turn alot of laps to truely learn each track but with a little effort on your part this game is second to none as far as Nascar racing goes. You can probably find it for about $10 at BestBuy. Good stuff!

[SpotcheckBilly]

Not really into games..but I have a friend at work who is, I'll pass it on thanks.
Nice car btw..

[SpotcheckBilly]

If I may rant for a minute..The Labor Day race is held at Darlington!!! Not some cookie cutter track in CA, and especially not a night race... Darm you Na$car!

http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=nascarftr&prov=st&type=lgns

[Farside]

If I may rant for a minute..The Labor Day race is held at Darlington!!! Not some cookie cutter track in CA, and especially not a night race... Darm you Na$car!

http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=nascarftr&prov=st&type=lgns
I totally agree, they had a good thing and fucked it up. Don't fuck with tradition!

[SpotcheckBilly]

There were always 4 crown jewels of Winston Cup. The Southern 500 on Labor Day was the oldest (54 years) , and greatest of them all. Fuck Nextel, and their stupid track in LA. They already changed the World 500 on Memorial Day to a night race..what's next, move the Daytona 500 to Chicago?

ASSHATS!! :fight6:

[Ballbuster1]

Go away for a week and look what I miss, a new XM channel
and Rusty calling it quits (although that was pretty much a given).
I wore my Darlington "Too Tough To Tame" shirt today in protest.
It's just not Labor Day without the Southern 500.:icon_evil

[Ballbuster1]

I'm guessin somebody here might be a little bit happy:

http://i.a.cnn.net/nascar/2004/news/headlines/cup/09/06/bc.car.nascar.california.ap/lead1.jpg (http://www.nascar.com/2004/news/headlines/cup/09/06/bc.car.nascar.california.ap/index.html) :xyxthumbs

[SpotcheckBilly]

Nice win for Eliot! That car was hooked up all night. :clap:

Results Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/25/data/results_unofficial.html/index.html)

[Ballbuster1]

Forgot to mention....I saw the Nascar IMAX flick while in SC.
Totally cool. A little short (under 1 hour) but was well worth it.

[SpotcheckBilly]

Cool, gotta love the Imax..that must have been cool.

Another short track..more beatin' and bangin' and an excuse to not have to watch COPS.. :action-sm :clap: Richmond!

Results Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/26/data/lineup.html/index.html)

[Ballbuster1]

What a great race. Left a few drivers uphappy at the end.
They should all be that exciting to watch.
Well, let's see how the new system works out.
Right now:
1- Gordon, 2- Johnson, 3- Junior, 4- Stewart, 5- Kenseth,
6- Sadler, 7-Busch, 8- Martin, 9- Mayfield, 10- Newman
Things could get interesting from here.

[Papagolash]

Saw the end at the bar tonight, didn't even know there was a night race. Holy shit talk about the race of his life for Mayfield. Not only does he win, but he moves up 5 POSITIONS to make the top 10!

[Silent Game]

Talk about the right time to turn it up!!First win in a loooong time for the 19.

GO JEREMY

[Ballbuster1]

Yeah that was a huge win for a guy who was
almost pushed out of that ride last year.
Nice job by Jeremy and his team.:clap:

[SpotcheckBilly]

I don't think Jimmy (Rockhead) Spencer will be getting a Christmas card from the Jimmy Johnson family this year. :icon_lol:

Nice finish for Mayfield..Results Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/26/data/results_official.html)

[Ballbuster1]

I don't think Jimmy (Rockhead) Spencer will be getting a Christmas card from the Jimmy Johnson family this year. :icon_lol:

Nice finish for Mayfield..Results Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/26/data/results_official.html)If you look at that wreck, Spencer was getting a bum rap.
Casey Mears came down and pinched him off. Jimmy can be an
ass at times, but DJ was beatin on that kid way worse than
anything the 4 car did. It was just a hard racin accident.

[SpotcheckBilly]

News
Indianapolis Motor Speedway made official today speculations that they would move the start time in the Indy 500 forward one hour. Already tight, this will make the Indy/Lowe's Motor Speedway double on Memorial Day nearly impossible.

This never really worked, anyway..

[Ballbuster1]

Just got the newest S.I. Their predictions for the final 10:
1- Jimmie Johnson
2- Jeff Gordon
3- Mark Martin
4- Matt Kenseth
5- Elliot Sadler
6- Dale Earnhardt Jr.
7- Tony Stewart
8- Kurt Busch
9- Ryan Newman
10- Jeremy Mayfield
We'll see how good they are.

[SpotcheckBilly]

I really wanna see Mark Martin take it..probably his last chance. go 6

[Ballbuster1]

I really wanna see Mark Martin take it..probably his last chance. go 6I really doubt that. 1 & 2 may be reversed though.
Gordo's been lookin really good lately.
I think he may get #5 this year.

[SpotcheckBilly]

I doubt it also..but I can still hope. :action-sm

[Papagolash]

It's be great if Martin or Sadler got it, I think I'll root for Martin instead of Dale Jr. Wanna see Mark finally get one. Oh and here's the 2005 Dodge Charger, courtesy of Jayski.

http://jayski.thatsracin.com/schemes/2005/cup/05-dodge2-huge.jpg

[Farside]

Nextel Cup unveiled, I like it

http://www.racingone.com/article.asp?artnum=20658

http://www.racingone.com/images/articles/20658a.jpg

[Ballbuster1]

Guess they wanted something smaller than the W.C. trophy.
Most drivers looked strained lifting the old one up.
Looks good though.

[SpotcheckBilly]

Qualifying got washed out..they'll be lucky to get this one off. Here's the line-up, they're going by points.

Results Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/27/data/lineup.html/index.html)

[Ballbuster1]

Yeah this weekend doesn't look good. But if they do get it goin,
the top 10 in the chase can't complain too much about not qualifing.
At least they are all out front.

[Ballbuster1]

The new XM Nascar channel is great.

While XM 144 does the MRN broadcast,
XM 145 goes thru in car audio feeds and announces the
car/ truck number when it's signal is locked on to.
Watch the tube and crank up XM.:clap:
Doing that for the NHIS truck race right now.

[roche]

I am not a race fan, but that is pretty damned nifty.

[Ballbuster1]

I am not a race fan, but that is pretty damned nifty.The only problem is there is a lag in the broadcast, so somethimes
you hear them talking about something you've already seen on the
tv broadcast. But, it's cooler than listening to Benny Parsons all
the time.:icon_mrgr

[Ballbuster1]

Fuck that pirate stuff for this, holy shit what a big shake up in the
chase due to that ass Robby Gordon. Asshat thinks Biffle spun him
out, he hits Biffle for revenge and the ensuing wreck takes out both
Mayfield and Stewart. Rubber head goes on to win followed by Matty
and Jr while Newman dumps a motor near the end. This gives Jr the
points lead since he & Busch are tied in points, but Jr has 1 more win
for the season so far.:clap:
now:
1- Jr; 2- Busch; 3- Gordon; 4- Kennseth; 5- Johnson
6- Sadler; 7- Martin; 8- Stewart; 9-Newman; 10- Mayfield

[Ballbuster1]

Since Spot is under the weather, I'll fill in here.

Kurt Busch sweeps the New Hampshire races this year
and wins the first of the "Chase for the Nextel Cup" races.

Results Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/27/data/results_unofficial.html)

[SpotcheckBilly]

Dover..monster mile..traffic jams..and Mayfield on the pole!! Nice 4th for the #38.

Line-up Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/28/data/lineup.html)

[Ballbuster1]

Jeremy and Tony need good runs after the bullshit from
Robby Gordon last week.:icon_evil I hope Childress dumps him soon.

Ha-Ha....Got kicked out of 1 of my fantasy racing teams cause some
Rubberhead lover just wouldn't accept that Jr was the leader right
now. Called him a "Fucking Crybaby Asshat" and he turned me in for
abusive language. Too fucking funny. I was done with them anyway,
way to many whiners. I was due for a top 5 finish but could never
get to 1st, so no biggie.

[Ballbuster1]

Newman had the dominant car today. He deserved the win.
Tough break for the 38, had a good run goin and lost it
when he had to pit and got a speeding penalty. Luckily,
it didn't change his standings in the points race.
Jeffy's the new points leader over Rubberhead by 1
point. Jr is next.
Robbie Gordon still making friends.....this time bangin
on Tony Stewart. He was pissed after the race.
That's 2 weeks in a row that Robbie has caused
some major grief. RCR should dump his ass. He's a loser.

[SpotcheckBilly]

Front Row Joe !!!

[Ballbuster1]

5th thru 10th all in the chase. Nice starting positions for Dega.:icon_wink

[SpotcheckBilly]

Line-up here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/29/data/lineup.html)

Nice show by the Sadler boys..Love the 'Dega..

[Papagolash]

Anyone going to listen to the race on NASCAR 2 XM145? Got it set up right now, excited to hear a whole race from the car for the 1st time. Reminds me of when ESPN 2 1st popped up, they'd have the race on ESPN and had nothing but in-car cams on ESPN 2.

[SpotcheckBilly]

Yeah I turned it on after the Giants game..it's pretty damn cool.

Goddamn Sadler wrecks on the last lap..son of a bitch!

[Ballbuster1]

I tuned in on my way home from the Phil's game. Very nice.
Bad luck for Sadler, another flight in Dega.
Good luck for JR. Points leader again.:clap:
I think Mayfield's done. Another poor finish.

[jaydo]

YO!!! peeps wazzzzzzzzzzzzzzz up ?



Check this out Jr docked points and money for potty mouth .....

http://www.nascar.com/2004/news/headlines/cup/10/05/dearnhardtjr_points/index.html

[SpotcheckBilly]

I saw that..wtf how PC can they get? I know they felt they had to, coz they just did the same in Busch..the fine is okay, but 25 points? that's Bullshit. If it weren't for Sadler, I wouldn't even watch anymore.

[Papagolash]

I think it's fair. It's not the 1st time someone's been docked for points for cursing on tv (post janet) and they're being consistant, not showing favoritism.

[SpotcheckBilly]

Yeah I know Papa..I was just venting. Jr. should have known better. It was funny to see the interview, tho'.

Oh and welcome back Jaydog. :action-sm

[jaydo]

Oh and welcome back Jaydog. :action-sm

yeah thanks ....ass:icon_lol: .......




And yes Jr deserved the fine ...Hornaday was fined aswell as Johnny Saughter for the same infraction.. ... So good for nascar for being consistent.. Regardless who the violator is....

[Ballbuster1]

They shouldn't have the points tied to this stuff for anyone.
That's not right. Give em a fine, but the points should be a
penalty for racing violations, not PC bullshit.

[Ballbuster1]

Since Spot's outta town, I'll do this...

FRONT ROW JOE AGAIN !!!!
Line up here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/30/data/lineup.html)

[Ballbuster1]

Much joy in the Nemechek world today.
Joe won the Busch race yesterday, and
wins today's race from the pole.:clap:

Final Results Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/30/data/results_unofficial.html)

[SpotcheckBilly]

Charlotte tomorrow night..Ryan Newman on the pole, a 5th for the #38! Results here.. (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/31/data/lineup.html)

[Ballbuster1]

I'm lovin the night racing late in the season.
Now I can catch the race and The EAGLES !:clap:

[Marye]

Hey my baby's!!!! Let's see how long I can post before the computer locks up.... my kids downloaded something......... I agree, they HAD to fine Junior, and as all of you know, he's MY man, but with all the conspiracy theories about him getting away with more because he's Earnhardt's son, they had no choice. Sucks because it put Busch in front. But we got a lotta' more to go.....How great was it before hand when Truex was #1 in Busch and Junior was #1 in the Cup???? Oh well, having some people over to watch tonight's race, so GO Junior! And well wishes to all my other buddy's drivers!!!!

Heart you guys!!!

[SpotcheckBilly]

Welcome back Mary..we missed you. :love:

[Marye]

:action-sm
Hey Spot!!!!! I missed you guys too!!! The computer at home has a virus, and I'm too afraid to post from work!! Right this second, it's working okay. I've been lurking and reading everything, just not posting. And, I'm sorry to say, I don't have XM radio yet, I've been promised one for Christmas...... but sounds like they're doing great! Thanks to the devoted fans of Wackbag, I hope they know how devoted everyone is. It still amazes me, even though they were off the air for 2 years...... just goes to show that O & A fans are the bestest!!!!:clap:

[Ballbuster1]

Welcome back, Marye!:yclap: Post more often if ya can.
I hope you get XM soon. The new show is getting
better every day. We miss ya.:icon_wink

Oh yeah.......GO JR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:icon_mrgr

[Marye]

Hi Ball!!!!!!! Missed you guys too!! Suck's working with computers and can't even fix you're own sh**t.... ooopss I said the "s" word, guess I'll get fined..... Ha Ha!! Went to the Richmond race, had pit passes, but wasn't all that damned impressed with them. Gee, you get to see pit boxes and stacks of tires.....Weee doggies! My son found some lug nuts, who knows who they were, but he was impressed - it was his first Na$car race.

I will try and keep up, so far so good with my computer. I really missed everybody, but I see there's alot of new faces which is very cool.

Marye

[Papagolash]

Whoa, a chick NASCAR fan? Sweet!

[Marye]

Whoa, a chick NASCAR fan? Sweet!

Oh Darling, you have NO idea how big a fan I am..... nice to see you in the thread!!!!

Today 07:51 PM

[Ballbuster1]

The truck race today at Texas was great. What a crash fest.
Todd Bodine finally found a series he can win in.:icon_wink

Can't wait for tonight's race. I'm liking all these
added night races this year:clap:

[Ballbuster1]

Jimmy Johnson wins the Quality 500 (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/31/data/results_unofficial.html).

Looks like a 3 way race for the Cup now.
Busch leads, Jr is 24 points back and Gordon is74 out.
Sadler and Martin still stand a chance, but the other
3 really need to eff up big time for that to happen.

[SpotcheckBilly]

Ryan Newman on the pole. Line Up Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/32/data/lineup.html)

Travis Kvapil??

Any way..Martinsvile!! :clap:

[Ballbuster1]

Damn, nice starting spot for Travis. He may have a good future
in Nextel Cup.
( Travis races in the Craftsman Truck Series:
http://www.nascar.com/drivers/dps/tkvapil00/truck/index.html )

[Papagolash]

JJ wins yet again. Also want to say FUCK YOU to Ryan Newman, think I'll make a FU thread.

Sad news, FAA lost a Hendricks Motorsports plane on their radar screen en route to Martinsville, there was no victory lane celebration, JJ was rushed off to the trailer. No word on who was on that plane, but it doesn't look good.

[Ballbuster1]

Nascar.com has a small story here for now. No real news yet.



http://www.nascar.com/2004/news/headlines/cup/10/24/bc.car.nascar.hendrick.ap/index.html

[SpotcheckBilly]

Results from today (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/32/data/results_unofficial.html)

[Ballbuster1]

Bad day for both Sadler and Jr.:icon_evil

[SpotcheckBilly]

Yeah..Elliot went the wrong way through the smoke..and Jr. lost a gear. Not a good race for the cars I root for.

[Papagolash]

I feel HORRIBLE for the Hendrick family and all the relatives who lost people on that flight. This really sucks.

[Ballbuster1]

WoW, here's a shocker............Newman on the pole again.:icon_roll
Line-up Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/33/data/lineup.html)
Nemechek next to him again:clap:
4 races to go, it's make it or break it time.:icon_wink

[SpotcheckBilly]

I feel HORRIBLE for the Hendrick family and all the relatives who lost people on that flight. This really sucks.

Me too Papa..it took all the fun out of it. I don't even think I can watch the race this week. Really sucks ass.

[SpotcheckBilly]

Results here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/33/data/results_unofficial.html)

I feel bad for Mark Martin he was fast all day..but a nice win for the Hendricks team.

[Mother Shucker]

Hey, if I post "I do not like Tony Stewert", will it be deleted here?

[SpotcheckBilly]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar--wallacefine&prov=ap&type=lgns

[Ballbuster1]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=ap-nascar--wallacefine&prov=ap&type=lgnsRusty's gettin nasty in his old age.:icon_mrgr

[SpotcheckBilly]

Another week, another Newman pole. I can hardly contain my excitement..

Line-up here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/34/data/lineup.html)

[Ballbuster1]

Gonna miss this one. Going to Foxwoods. Maybe I'll get sick there.:puke:

[SpotcheckBilly]

I'm gonna miss it, because Phoenix sucks..and the Giants game will be on. Honk the horn if you go through Danbury, me and Jaydo will wave. :action-sm

[SpotcheckBilly]

http://i.a.cnn.net/nascar/2004/news/headlines/cup/11/07/lapbylap_phoenix/t1earnhardtjr.jpg

Results Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/34/data/results_unofficial.html)

[Ballbuster1]

http://i.a.cnn.net/nascar/2004/news/headlines/cup/11/07/lapbylap_phoenix/t1earnhardtjr.jpg

Results Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/34/data/results_unofficial.html)4 drivers within 50 points. This is gonna be a tight race to the end.:clap:

[SpotcheckBilly]

Rain took out qualifying..for the bogus Southern 500. They have to go off of points..Kurt Busch on the pole. :clap:

Lineup here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/35/data/lineup.html)

[Ballbuster1]

Yeah, this race is way too late now. I miss seeing it on Labor Day weekend.:icon_evil

[Silent Game]

Hey guys. I know I'm not good buds with anyone here but I could use a little help.

I'm trying to win driver of the year in our online racin' league.

2races left in the year and I have a 65 point lead on 2nd place.

http://www.pmsrl.com

vote for DHP Salty

lol what a shameless whore I am

thanx for you time...peace

[SpotcheckBilly]

I voted for Salty!!

[Silent Game]

Sweet!

Thanx Spot!!

[SpotcheckBilly]

Sweet!

Thanx Spot!!
I'm sure some of the others will vote Salty, also..won't ya fellas!! :action-sm


Oh and Jimmy Johnson just won the LAST Southern 500. :icon_evil :fight6:

Results Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/35/data/results_unofficial.html)

[Silent Game]

Vote's over ...looks like I got it...sweet!

Anyhow, on a REAL racing note.

please,please,please let JJ catch rubberhead for the cup!!

[Ballbuster1]

Vote's over ...looks like I got it...sweet!

Anyhow, on a REAL racing note.

please,please,please let JJ catch rubberhead for the cup!!Nice, congrats.:clap:
I had hoped JR might win it, but it looks like he's done.
It seems to be a horse race between Rubberhead, JJ, and Jeff.
I'd rather see Jimmy or Jeff get the title over the garden gnome.

[SpotcheckBilly]

Here's the line-up..Kurt Busch on the pole!

Results Here (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/36/data/lineup.html)

[Ballbuster1]

Jeff's right up there in the #5 spot. He's very good under pressure.
This will be a race to the finish. Looks like Nutcar's plan to tighten
up the points race worked very well.

[SpotcheckBilly]

RubberHead!!!! :clap:

[Ballbuster1]

The Hendricks' cars gave him a run for the money, but
the Yard Gnome stuck it out to win the title.
Congrats, Kurt and Fennig. (Jimmie finally will get his trophy.)

[SpotcheckBilly]

Race Results (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/36/data/results_unofficial.html) Congrats to Greg Biffle.

Final Points results (http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2004/data/standings_unofficial.html) Congrats to Kurt Busch, and Rousch Racing.

[Farside]

Year in Review on NBC right now if anyones interested

[Ballbuster1]

We're done with the season now, but I just got info on new tags for
PA cars. The money goes to the Victory Junction Gang. Just passing
along the info. Me & Mrs Buster are getting new tags.:icon_wink
All the tags here (http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/license_plates/victory_junction.shtml)
Guess which one I'm gonna get...


:icon_mrgr (http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/graphics/nascar/dale_earnhardt.jpg)