2009-2010 NHL Season Thread

[Papagolash]

weeee HOCKEY!!!!!!

[FAZ8218]

Bastard, you got both threads. That's gonna annoy me all the way until June.

[George Costanza]

Early prediction for East and West Conference Finals winners and SCF finals Winner.

East
Philadelphia over Pittsburgh

West
Vancouver over San Jose

Finals Winner
Vancouver they were already good and improved the most this offseason.

I think Washington will win the Presidents trophy but wont make it to the Finals unless Varlamov improves his glove hand high.

[FullBallz]

East
Pittsburgh over Washington

West
Chicago over Vancouver (Luongo chokes yet again)

Finals
Pittsburgh over Chicago

They just look way too strong for me and they have too many guys returning.

San Jose will win the President's trophy but get knocked out in the 2nd round by a team that actually plays defense in Vancouver.

Some other predictions I think we should do.

Hart Trophy - Pavel Datsyuk
Calder Trophy - John Tavares
Vezina Trophy - Brodeur....fuck all you people who call me homers :)
Surprise Good Team of the Season - St. Louis...with their maturity year last year and the return of Erik Johnson, I expect them to contend for 2nd place in the Central.
Surprise Bad Team of the Season - Carolina...while Cam Ward is always solid I feel there are a lot of missing parts on this team, on defense especially, who last year had a very magical run in the playoffs.
First Coach to Get Fired - Sherman in Colorado. That team is really bad and he's going to get the boot quickly to make room for Roy.

[maxeypad]

GO RED WINGS!!! they aren't going to be nearly as good as last year....i'm guessing they'll be the 4th or 5th seed this upcoming season.....

HAIL ZETTERBERG!

[Garyisajoke]

Predictions

EAST: Washington over Philadelpha
WEST: Chicago over San Jose
FINALS: Chicago over Washington (it's do-or-die with their salary cap issues)

Hart Trophy - Ovechkin
Calder Trophy - Hedberg (unless Varlamov wins out the starting job in Washington)
Vezina Trophy - Nabokov (why not? who saw Tim Thomas winning last year?)
Surprise Good Team of the Season - Tampa Bay Lightning
First Coach to Get Fired - Calgary's coach

[Absolutely]

Surprise Good Team of the Season - St. Louis...with their maturity year last year and the return of Erik Johnson, I expect them to contend for 2nd place in the Central.


Woot Woot
Would it really be a surprise though?

They were so good the last 3 months of the season.
19-24-4 on Jan 29th

Finished 41-31-10

22-7-6 Down the stretch.

I say it every single season, but I might watch Hockey this year.

[Begbie]

Predictions

EAST: Washington over Pittsburgh
WEST: Chicago over Detroit
FINALS: Chicago over Washington (too close to Garys, so I had to at least change the two east/west finals teams...but I'm also agreeing it's CHI and WAS in the Finals)

Hart Trophy - Patrick Kane
Calder Trophy - John Tavares
Vezina Trophy - Cristobal Huet
Surprise Good Team of the Season - Tampa Bay
Surprise Bad Team of the Season - Buffalo
First Coach to Get Fired - Randy Carlyle

My fuckin Isles are 4 days into training camp, and there are already 3 injuries. Weight and Bergenheim have groin pulls...Frans Nielsen has a knee injury, bad enough that he got sent back to NY to meet with team docs. Fuckin bullshit.

[iSpeakEloquent]

EAST: Boston over Pittsburgh
WEST: Chicago over St. Louis
FINALS: Chicago over Boston

Hart Trophy - Ovechkin
Calder Trophy - Gilroy
Vezina Trophy - Thomas
Surprise Good Team of the Season - Florida Panthers
First Coach to Get Fired - San Jose

[FAZ8218]

So let's say you're in a fantasy draft, and you have the 2nd pick. First guy takes Ovie... do you go with Crosby or Malkin?

[George Costanza]

Malkin.

[Papagolash]

Flames Phaneuf destroyed the Isles Okposo. Taken out on a stretcher.

[Begbie]

Flames Phaneuf destroyed the Isles Okposo. Taken out on a stretcher.

Yeah, another Islander down with what may be a serious injury. Fuckin ridiculous. Okposo may have had his head down though, but the hit appeared a little late and he may have left his feet. I can't see a good enough angle. It made the game pretty interesting.

Edit: Here's the hit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-XEMlMRP-M

I think it's legal...was it necessary though? IMO, not when Okposo already has two guys on him in the neutral zone and in preseason. It's also now hard to tell if his head was down...it looks like it is, but he was first shoved from behind. Fuuuuck, I don't want him to turn into a Brett Lindros!

[Fr. Dougal]

As much as I hate the Isles and I love seeing them get destroyed... Fuck Phaneuf. This is preseason. You don't pull that shit in the goddamn preseason.

[iSpeakEloquent]

thats fine but if you talk about his girlfriend you get suspended indef.

[Begbie]

As much as I hate the Isles and I love seeing them get destroyed... Fuck Phaneuf. This is preseason. You don't pull that shit in the goddamn preseason.

Agreed. I think that's what it boils down to. Completely unnecessary, especially when the player is in a vulnerable position and has two guys covering him. If it's not Okposo and it's say, Tim Connolly or other guys with concussion histories, that probably ends their season before it even began...or even career. Stupid. Alot of people are also talking about the "code" of owning up to your actions...Phaneuf avoided any challenges for the rest of the game. Maybe he thought it was only preseason and didn't think he needed to drop the gloves. Isles and Calgary play again on Saturday. Phaneuf is not expected to play though.

Okposo is somehow ok. They took him to the hospital and was listed with a mild concussion.

[Fuck Crosby]

Good to see Theo back last night, and scoring the winning goal in the shootout

[Fuck Crosby]

Phil Kessel has been traded to the Leafs. Just waiting on the contract, and final details-Darren Dregar

[Papagolash]

http://twitter.com/DamoSpin

Leafs get Kessel, 5 yrs, $27 million for two firsts and a second

[Begbie]

TSN is reporting this as well, but that they're still putting the final touches on it. Coincidentally, Eklund, who, prior to the Heatley trade, announced that Heatley was staying with the Sens, announced last night that Toronto and Boston are nowhere near done to a deal for Kessel.

I would think some youth/picks are going back the other way though. I would've asked for Schenn+. And if not Schenn, then I'd expect a 1st rounder+. I'd even take into consideration that I'm trading my top, young player within my division...thus raising the cost more.

Edit: Two firsts and a second? Eh. 2011 is a very weak draft, but 2010 1st rounder would be the big get. Doesn't this put Toronto over the cap as well?

[FAZ8218]

What do you guys think? This is not a money league, just for fun. My money draft is next Friday night.
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/2295/09kevinsleague.png

[EarthCrisis]

Pretty cool to see Gordie Howe in the stands of the Det-NYR game last night.

Looks like he's tapping some new ass.....

[Jimmy's Dignity]

that Kessel to Toronto trade...pretty expensive. 2 first, a 2nd, and then pay him $5+ per year? Yes he's good an young too, but that's surprising. Although Boston was only trying to resign him at 4 for $16, so in comparison, they were low-balling him

[FAZ8218]

that Kessel to Toronto trade...pretty expensive. 2 first, a 2nd, and then pay him $5+ per year? Yes he's good an young too, but that's surprising. Although Boston was only trying to resign him at 4 for $16, so in comparison, they were low-balling him
What really boggles the mind is, that at the draft, Brian Burke didn't want to give up ONE first rounder and a roster player for him, but he was willing to give up 3 picks 2 months later. I don't get it. Most Toronto fans are unhappy with this one.

[iSpeakEloquent]

boston made out like bandits, those should be some high picks too

[George Costanza]

Islander suspended after hit on teammate. That hit was dirty he was still regaining his balance from another calgary player and was almost pushed into Phaneufs xheck. I know he jumped off the bench but cmon man I don't think I've ever seen a hit like that in preseason.
Cheap


http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/story/10090882/Islanders'-Morency-suspended-indefinitely

[Papagolash]

Islander suspended after hit on teammate. That hit was dirty he was still regaining his balance from another calgary player and was almost pushed into Phaneufs xheck. I know he jumped off the bench but cmon man I don't think I've ever seen a hit like that in preseason.
Cheap


http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/story/10090882/Islanders'-Morency-suspended-indefinitely (http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/story/10090882/Islanders%27-Morency-suspended-indefinitely)



Pfft, gay. It looked like a line change to me.

[Barely Legal]

I know he jumped off the bench but cmon man I don't think I've ever seen a hit like that in preseason.
Cheap



Never?

How soon they forget!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=322zqTkL0-c

[FAZ8218]

Never?

How soon they forget!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=322zqTkL0-c
Seriously.

[seeinred]

Pfft, gay. It looked like a line change to me.
That's what I thought, too. I think if he had waited another second before he jumped off, it would have been fine.

And I thought the hit was clean, FWIW. Totally unnecessary, but clean.

[Begbie]

Islander suspended after hit on teammate. That hit was dirty he was still regaining his balance from another calgary player and was almost pushed into Phaneufs xheck. I know he jumped off the bench but cmon man I don't think I've ever seen a hit like that in preseason.
Cheap


http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/story/10090882/Islanders'-Morency-suspended-indefinitely (http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/story/10090882/Islanders%27-Morency-suspended-indefinitely)

Morency (Isles player) was suspended for 10 fuckin games (http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=499285) (5 preseason, 5 regular season) for coming on the ice during a legal line change to take part in an altercation.

Fuckin bullshit.

[Begbie]

Kansas City bombs tonight. The Kings and Isles are playing at the new Sprint Center in Kansas City...this was the highly advertised game to bump up support for a Kansas City hockey team (NYI?)...or at least, another professional sports franchise.

According to Newsday...they estimate attendance at about 3,000 in the 17,500 seat arena.

This wasn't a game that slipped under the radar...it was pretty big news.

[George Costanza]

Espns's experts speculate about realignment. I like Melrose's plans why the hell are the Wings still in the West? Thank god Illitch has a private jet for the team, all that travel in the playoffs hurts the Wings and it sucks when the game does not start until 10:30 pm on the east coast.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/preview2009/news/story?id=4496992

[Jimmy's Dignity]

I gotta go with The Mullet there. Pierre LeBrun = go screw....bring Europe into the NHL? Travel alone would be devastating.

[George Costanza]

Agreed JD, until they have more advanced aircraft for cross continental flight. It'd be awesome to have some teams in Finland, Sweden and the Czech Republic but the technology isn't ready yet. Sucks though a strong NHL presence in Europe would weaken the KHL.

Melrose Rules

[iSpeakEloquent]

gc, see now to me, nhl in europe would hurt the north american part of the sport more than the khl would. if you put teams in europe why players from those countries bother coming here anymore. Wouldn't someone like Henrik Lundqvist play in sweden where he lives? Of course some like america, but a lot of them still live in their native countries so it would be easier for them to just stay there. You bring up straka all the time, he left the nhl to play for a team in his hometown.

I just think if there was a european division the american teams would be full of chris drurys

[Jimmy's Dignity]

The Great One resigns as head coach of the Coyotes (http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=292399)

[maxeypad]

hard to believe hockey starts next week.....

[George Costanza]

The Great One resigns as head coach of the Coyotes (http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=292399)

Bad situation for Wayne, but the last thing the coyotes need is a coach who makes almost as much a year as Redden and Rozsival combined. The Coyotes could bring up a coach from the minor's. As the Pens did last year and the Caps did the year before. Spend that 10 plus million on players instead of a coach.

[buttwax]

wish redden would go coach and get off our blueline

[Garyisajoke]

hard to believe hockey starts next week.....

It most certainly is. And I just found out I'm going to the Capitals home opener. Fuck football.

[Begbie]

I would just dissolve that cursed Phoenix team. I can say with confidence that they are in much worst shape than my Isles...and that says alot. I remember mentioning this in the past, but this franchise (Winnipeg-NHL and Phoenix eras) has won only 2 playoff series...the last one occurring in 1987. Ouch. And I had suggested that the one thing they had going for them was Coach Gretzky being the longest tenured Winnipeg/Phoenix coach in history. Tippett is now the organization's 21st coach in 30 years. Both Winnipeg and Phoenix teams have had to deal with the talk of relocation, bankruptcy, and being in the red. And really...only a select few draft picks (Phoenix era only) have panned out thus far...alot of duds.

No wonder there's a lack of interest in Phoenix hockey.

[iSpeakEloquent]

i think they are in better shape, talent wise then ever before. Maloney has done a good job stockpiling picks and picking up young players over the past few years. No one knows if they will pan out or be kept in the long run but he is doing his part.

[George Costanza]

Theoren Fleury released by Calgary. He did really well in the preseason but the Flames said he needed to be a top six forward not a 5"6 forward. I see team's like the Sharks, Rangers, Wings and Philly signing him at some point.

[Papagolash]

Poor Theo, I was hoping he'd make it.

[Hoagie]

Theoren Fleury released by Calgary. He did really well in the preseason but the Flames said he needed to be a top six forward not a 5"6 forward. I see team's like the Sharks, Rangers, Wings and Philly signing him at some point.I don't know about the Sharks but Rangers, Wings, and Flyers don't have room in their caps. Good luck in the KHL, Theo.

[Fred Told Me]

Theoren Fleury released by Calgary. He did really well in the preseason but the Flames said he needed to be a top six forward not a 5"6 forward. I see team's like the Sharks, Rangers, Wings and Philly signing him at some point.

What you meant to say was " I see teams like NOBODY singing him at this point.


You'd have a better chance of an Islanders-Coyotes Stanley Cup Final than the Rangers signing Fleury again.

[George Costanza]

I don't know about the Sharks but Rangers, Wings, and Flyers don't have room in their caps. Good luck in the KHL, Theo.

The KHL isnt the best option as Theo is Canadian, it seems most of the quality talent the KHL steals are European or Asian.
Mark my Words Theo will be picked up by a Contender for the league minimum. Did you see how well he played in the preseason? We're not talking about Lemiux's comeback with the Sharks last year.

In related news
Also Anisimov has looked really good on the Rangers and is an early calder candidate.
Hopefully Rangers won't lose him for nothing in a few years as the Wings did with Jiri Hudler.

[George Costanza]

Niedermayer signs with the Devils. Wonder why he didn't stay in Anaheim to play with his brother?


http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/story/10125942/Rob-Niedermayer-signs-1-year-deal-with-Devils

[Stormrider666]

hard to believe hockey starts next week.....

Which leads me to ask this question as a casual observer of hockey:

Wouldn't it be better for hockey to start later, like in the middle of October. I mean one minute there is preseason hockey and then before you know it, the regular season starts. It just seems to me the start of NHL season gets lost in the shuffle with the NFL and college football starting their seasons.

[Hoagie]

The post-season would run too far into the next year if it started any later. It's probably not the best time to start the season but it's better then having your finals get lost in the start of summer.

[Fuck Crosby]

God damn! Less than a week away! Habs prob won't do shit this year with all of there changes, but I don't care, I am pumped for the new year to begin.

[ginaf20697]

Well there's not much help for it unless you want the Cup in July. Plus this year's the Olympics so that fucks things up even more.

[Barely Legal]

Which leads me to ask this question as a casual observer of hockey:

Wouldn't it be better for hockey to start later, like in the middle of October. I mean one minute there is preseason hockey and then before you know it, the regular season starts. It just seems to me the start of NHL season gets lost in the shuffle with the NFL and college football starting their seasons.

The NHL is actually starting quite a bit earlier this year than other years because of the 2010 Olympics and the break in the season to accommodate for it.

[Fuck Crosby]

Nothing better then a 2 week break. At least this yr the games hopefully wont be in the early ass morning or middle of the afternoon. I could skip classes, really can't skip work during this years. Will the trade deadline be moved at all?

[LZMF1]

Niedermayer signs with the Devils. Wonder why he didn't stay in Anaheim to play with his brother?


http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/story/10125942/Rob-Niedermayer-signs-1-year-deal-with-Devils
with any luck his brother will follow

[Sack of Chisels]

Niedermayer signs with the Devils. Wonder why he didn't stay in Anaheim to play with his brother?

He had an absolutely terrible season last year, they just didn't want him anymore. He was very useful in their cup run, but has really slowed down in the past 2 years.

[George Costanza]

Center Ice preview October 2nd to October 24th.

http://www.indemand.com/sports/nhl/

[FAZ8218]

Hit the jackpot last night and got first pick in my money league. Winner takes appx. $1000 in this one. Roto league, strictly standings, Goals and Goalie wins are big, Hat tricks are a bonus category, PIMS, GA, and Losses are negative points. I like my team, but the long stretches in between picks kinda forced me to take some guys out of principle, some of my favorites slipped away in between. What do you guys think?
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/8772/moneyfantasy0910.jpg

[Barely Legal]

Watching Canucks/Flames preseason right now on TSN2. Both these teams have improved a lot compared to last season. I see more speed, better passing and better defence on both sides of the ice.

Vancouver/Calgary regular season games are going to be fucking epic battles this year and it wouldn't be a stretch to say that one of these teams could represent the Western Conference in the playoffs this year.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

That's a pretty sweet looking team Faz. I can't believe it all starts up on Thursday night

[Begbie]

Edmonton has waived puckhandler extraordinaire Robbie Schremp. I could definitely see a team like Nashville, the Isles, or Tampa taking on this project. It's kind of a low risk, high reward.

Regardless, it sounds like the guy has the hockey sense and legs of an AHL'er, but the hands of an NHL'er.

[Sack of Chisels]

Schremp's a bust. incredible hands, but that is it. He'll flee to europe when his contract is up.

[iSpeakEloquent]

theo fleury has retired, toronto released jason allison

[FAZ8218]

I think people were just pulling for Schremp because of his crazy skills. You gotta be good all-around though. If he didn't make it yet, doesn't seem like he will. Whatever, you can still make a decent career in the A, you won't be a multi-millionaire, but you won't be poor either.

[iSpeakEloquent]

you could always strive to be Ken Gernander

[samurai]

Leaves are falling, the HVAC is reset to heat and the smallmouth are eating everything.....

GAME ON!!

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c107/dmul43/8890997_550_art_R0.jpg
Sorry boys, couldn't help but puff oot the chest a little bit.

P.S.- Kane just told Toews that he had to tip the photographer.

[Begbie]

There's a thread over on HFBoards about people calling up DirecTV to complain about the situation with Versus and getting anywhere from 1/2 off Center Ice to 6 months free Sportspack. I'll have to give it a shot and see if I get anywhere, even if they got be by the balls in a contract.

[Papagolash]

Islanders claimed Robby Schremp. Maybe now the Isles can have a 1st line of Tavares and Schremp, 2 guys with great hands and below average skating ability.

[Begbie]

Islanders claimed Robby Schremp. Maybe now the Isles can have a 1st line of Tavares and Schremp, 2 guys with great hands and below average skating ability.

Well...low risk, high reward for the Isles. This is a cocky kid...and he's just gotten a wake up call. Be a career AHL'er or strive to make the NHL. He's got to work on his skating and his defense.

My prediction...he spends most of the year in Bridgeport. Scott Gordon has been challenging his younger guys to become better players defensively. Schremp will probably find this out the hard way and he'll continue to think he needs to get back to playing "Rob Schremp hockey". There's a chance he can work on his skating to become average and net a good career in the NHL. But...I think it's more likely he'll be a Sound Tiger for quite some time.

Oh and I just tried to complain about DirecTV...and they didn't offer me shit...just a "we will note this issue that you re having on your account." Ugh...

[George Costanza]

Islanders claimed Robby Schremp. Maybe now the Isles can have a 1st line of Tavares and Schremp, 2 guys with great hands and below average skating ability.

Is he related to Detlef Schremp the former golden state warrior bball player?
36 hours until Red Wings play the Blues in Sweden. Seems like the playoffs just ended. It'd suck to be a fan of a team that regularly misses the playoffs or loses in the 1st round.

[George Costanza]

Looks like the coyotes are about to turn the corner. Signing one of the laziest forwards in the NHL, too bad he's got size and tons of talent.

Lang sign with the Coyotes contingent on the physical.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/coyotes/ar...oyoteslang.html

[Begbie]

Looks like the coyotes are about to turn the corner. Signing one of the laziest forwards in the NHL, too bad he's got size and tons of talent.

Lang sign with the Coyotes contingent on the physical.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/coyotes/ar...oyoteslang.html

Lang? What is he...like 40? That oughta sell tickets. :rolleyes:

[Begbie]

DirecTV'ers (if there are any)

I just got off the phone with retention. Told them I wanted to cancel. When they asked me why...I told them that hockey season starts soon and I'm going to be missing alot of games, including the openers on Thursday night, because they're on Versus. He immediately was about to offer NHL Center Ice for free, but before he could, I told him that I shopped around and got an offer from Dish for their Classic Gold package for cheaper than I'm paying now..and that they would give me NHL Center Ice for free since I complained to them about DirecTV's cancellation fee.

He offered me NHL Center Ice for free...and threw in $10 off for the next 12 months (only because I mentioned Dish would give me a good deal). Fuckin perfect! Alot of people are getting this deal...or at least most are getting just the free Center Ice.

I gotta say though...I've yet to get a obnoxious customer service person from DirecTV. They've all been really knowledgeable, very nice...and easy to understand. White, english speaking people. Awesome.

[iSpeakEloquent]

DirecTV'ers (if there are any)

I just got off the phone with retention. Told them I wanted to cancel. When they asked me why...I told them that hockey season starts soon and I'm going to be missing alot of games, including the openers on Thursday night, because they're on Versus. He immediately was about to offer NHL Center Ice for free, but before he could, I told him that I shopped around and got an offer from Dish for their Classic Gold package for cheaper than I'm paying now..and that they would give me NHL Center Ice for free since I complained to them about DirecTV's cancellation fee.

He offered me NHL Center Ice for free...and threw in $10 off for the next 12 months (only because I mentioned Dish would give me a good deal). Fuckin perfect! Alot of people are getting this deal...or at least most are getting just the free Center Ice.

I gotta say though...I've yet to get a obnoxious customer service person from DirecTV. They've all been really knowledgeable, very nice...and easy to understand. White, english speaking people. Awesome.

the customer service is good when you are trying to rip them off, but when they rip you off they pretend like they don't know you. I was a A+ customer for 6 years and they stole 500 bucks from by debit card and wouldn't refund any of the $500 worth of equipment they told me i needed which would eventually not work.

I'm sitting pretty with Fios. Legs up, VSHD in 100% pure hd.

[Begbie]

Wow...lotsa news going on before the season gets underway...

Mats Sundin retires (http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=293154).

Sergei Kostitsyn gets demoted to Hamilton, does not report, gets suspended by the Habs, and demands a trade (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=293177).

The Isles are doing away with their white away jerseys next season and going back to the retro royal blue to match their home retro blue ones...leaked by the President of the sound tigers.

Cam Ward gets a 6-year extension at a $6.3M cap hit. (http://www.capgeek.com/)

One more damn day...it's taking forever!

[Fred Told Me]

Wow...lotsa news going on before the season gets underway...



The Isles are doing away with their white away jerseys next season and going back to the retro royal blue to match their home retro blue ones...leaked by the President of the sound tigers.

!


So wait. They are going to have Blue jerseys at home and on the road? How is that going to work when they play a team that has a Blue Jersey? That doesn't make sense to me, but neither does teams wearing dark jerseys at home. They need to get rid of this already.

[Begbie]

So wait. They are going to have Blue jerseys at home and on the road? How is that going to work when they play a team that has a Blue Jersey? That doesn't make sense to me, but neither does teams wearing dark jerseys at home. They need to get rid of this already.

No, I should've been more clear...sorry. They're going to unveil a new white away jersey copying the one they unveiled in Bridgeport today:

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/584/yvdtwzmjddzilfn20090929.jpg

They're officially dumping the navy blue and going back to royal and dumping the ugly piping on the jerseys. The home royal blues that served as their alternate last year was supposed to be their new home jersey this year, but they were too late in submitting the paperwork to the league. So, they will remain as an alternate jersey this season, then become permanent in 2010-11 with this new away jersey.

And I was so hoping a return to the fisherman. :icon_mrgr

[Jimmy's Dignity]

I just hope they're still on the Island in '10-11...

[FullBallz]

MUCH better than what they have now. I really don't like the block coloring of their unis right now. I can't wait for the season to start!

[Begbie]

I just hope they're still on the Island in '10-11...

Well...they're tied to that shithole mausoleum until 2015...so they'll definitely be here until then, especially since the county and SMG have had no desire to negotiate a buyout of the existing lease. But I get what you mean. Nassau County has given the full go ahead for the Lighthouse project and they are unveiling the new lease agreement with the Isles tomorrow...pending of course, Hempstead's approval of the Lighthouse. The ball is entirely in Hempstead's court right now...yet they apparently have no intention of voting on it before Wang's deadline of this Saturday. Which means by Monday morning...he should be fielding calls from other spots in the NY market to move them (again, that $450 million Cablevision contract is no good if the team moves out of the market) or fielding calls from other cities to sell the franchise...then have them move to that new city in 2015.

Chris Botta says there's at least 7 groups that would show some interest...one city in Canada, but he said it's not Hamilton or Balsillie. Maybe it's Winnipeg? Kansas City, definitely. Maybe Vegas or Portland? Then NY sites...Suffolk, Brooklyn, Queens, or Connecticut. Those have been, at least, some of the rumors going around in the past.

MUCH better than what they have now. I really don't like the block coloring of their unis right now. I can't wait for the season to start!

I just don't like the piping on the shoulders and arms that some teams have. They look like glorified practice jerseys. But I am glad to see teams like the Isles go retro again.

[FullBallz]

I could definitely see them moving to Brooklyn now that the new arena there looks more likely to be happening since that Russian dude bought the Nets. I wouldn't want them named the Brooklyn Islanders though. That's gay.

[Fred Told Me]

. I wouldn't want them named the Brooklyn Islanders though. That's gay.

Im sure they would still be called the New York Islanders. The Rangers aren't the Manhattan Rangers.

[Begbie]

Yeah...if the destination would be Brooklyn...Wang would remain owner of the team and would not budge on the name. And they'd still technically be on an island...so the name still fits. I would expect the Rangers would seek a higher territorial fee since the Isles are closer...I think the Isles pay them like a couple million a year.

I heard an interesting thing a few years ago from one of the local papers...it might've been Daily News...and it involved moving the Islanders to Brooklyn with the Nets, and resurrect the old Brooklyn Americans franchise. An interesting scenario, especially since the Americans' former owner felt he was forced out of business due to the Rangers and swore that the Rangers would not win a Cup while he remained alive...which was the case. Interesting...but not bloody likely since the Isles have a pretty strong identity in the area.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Speaking of news....

Bankruptcy Judge says fuck you to BOTH Balsillie & Bettman (http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=293208)

BAUM TURNS DOWN BOTH BIDS FOR PHOENIX COYOTES

After months of back-and-forth disputes over who would ultimately obtain control of the Phoenix Coyotes franchise, Judge Redfield T. Baum turned down both bids by the National Hockey League and Canadian billionaire Jim Balsillie on Wednesday.

"In hockey parlance, the court is passing the puck to the NHL, who can decide to take another shot at the sale net or it can pass off the puck," Judge Baum wrote on Wednesday.

Balsillie said he would not appeal the decision. In a statement, Balsillie said, "nobody can deny that we are now a big step closer to having a seventh NHL team in Canada. It doesn't matter who owns that team. When that day comes, I will be the first in line to buy a ticket to the home opener.

"I want to take this opportunity to thank my family for all their love and support. I also want to thank the more than 200,000 fans who supported the bid online and the countless others who contacted me personally to show their support. This bid always was about the game we all love," said Balsillie.

Judge Baum threw out the $242.5 million (US) bid by Balsillie, saying it could not work because he could not properly satisfy the NHL's rights regarding relocation. "In the final analysis, the court cannot find or conclude that the interests of the NHL can be adequately protected if the Coyotes are moved to Hamilton without first having a final decision regarding the claimed rights of the NHL and the claims of the debtors and (Balsillie)," he ruled.

He then ruled that the NHL's bid of $140 million would not work because it allows the league to specifically select which of the creditors will be paid. The NHL said it would pay all their creditors in full - with the exception of former head coach Wayne Gretzky and majority owner Jerry Moyes.

"There has been no determination that the Moyes and Gretzky claims are not 'legitimate creditors.' It would be inherently unjust for this court to deprive them of their possible rightful share of any proceeds without first providing all involved a fair trial on their claims."

Baum's 28-page ruling says the Balsillie bid was denied "with prejudice," which means he cannot come back with an amended bid. As far as that bankruptcy court is concerned, it is done with him. The NHL offer was denied "without prejudice," meaning that the door is open for league to come back to the court with an improved offer.

"We are pleased that the Bankruptcy Court has confirmed the League's rights to select its owners and the location of its franchises,'' Deputy Commissioner Bill Daly said in a statement regarding today's ruling. ''We are reviewing the opinion and considering how we can best address the Court's concerns regarding our offer to purchase the Coyotes. It remains our goal to secure the long-term stability of the Coyotes in Glendale."

Judge Baum noted in his ruling that the Coyotes have total losses of over $390 million between 2004-08. He wrote that "the Coyotes have not been a particularly successful team on the ice having never won a playoff series since moving to Arizona. More importantly, from a bankruptcy perspective, the Coyotes have lost money every year since moving to Arizona."

The Coyotes originally filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection on May 5, opening the door for Balsillie to make an offer to buy the club. The initial offer of US$212.5-million was made, conditional on the team moving north to Southern Ontario.

The NHL quickly responded, claiming they had been in control of the franchise since November 2008. The league insisted that because they were running the team, majority owner Jerry Moyes did not have the right to file for bankruptcy.

A week later, Hamilton's city council approved a lease deal that would leave the door open until October, for the Coyotes to call Copps Coliseum home. The NHL contended that that territory belonged to the league, making it impossible for the Moyes/Balsillie deal to be completed.

As Balsillie's group pushed forward, they announced Labatt Breweries and Home Hardware as corporate sponsors if and when the team made its way to the Steeltown.

The NBA, NFL and Major League Baseball all voiced their support behind the NHL's stance regarding ownership transfer and relocation. Each league provided documents urging the courts to help them set a precedent in these matters. Judge Baum ordered Moyes and the NHL into mediation to establish who was in charge of the team.

In late May, Balsillie filed an application to the NHL Board of Governors, asking them to approve him as a potential owner of the Phoenix franchise. Balsillie also announced a $150-million renovation plan for the aging Copps Coliseum, to upgrade the facilities.

While no resolution had determined, in June, Judge Baum stated that the NHL had a right to demand payment for a team moving into the territory of Southern Ontario.

By the end of July, the NHL Board of Governors had voted unanimously (26-0) to reject Balsillie as a potential owner.

As the issue hit a fever pitch, Balsillie requested that the U.S. Bankruptcy Court probe the reasoning as to why the NHL owners' determined he was unfit to own a franchise in their league.

The league put their support behind the bid of Chicago Bulls and White Sox owner Jerry Reinsdorf in late July, but the bid was withdrawn on August 2. The NHL stepped up with their own bid of $140-million and another group, Ice Edge Holdings, also made a bid of $150-million.

The Ice Edge bid was short-lived and was withdrawn on September 9, after the group announced it was unable to work out a new arena lease with the city of Glendale.

As the date of the auction drew closer, Balsillie raised his bid to $242.5-million.

On the first day of the auction, Judge Baum told both bidders he might not award the team to either party.

Day 2 saw both sides make alterations to their respective bids. Balsillie adjusted his bid to ensure Glendale would receive $50-million if he was awarded the team and removed a deadline of September 21 for the sale to be completed.

The NHL changed their bid around so that $14-million of the money would be split between Moyes and Coyotes head coach Wayne Gretzky.

At the conclusion of the auction, Judge Baum made it clear he would take time to make his ruling. He said he wanted to word his decision clearly for the next court under the assumption the ruling would be appealed regardless of what it turned out to be.

The Coyotes opened camp on September 12, but Gretzky was not there due to uncertainty with his contract.

Phoenix was 36-39-7 last season and finished 13th in the Western Conference last season.

[Aaron Burrito]

I had no idea the season starts tomorrow until earlier today. Who runs promotion for the league, Sirius?

[iSpeakEloquent]

So wait. They are going to have Blue jerseys at home and on the road? How is that going to work when they play a team that has a Blue Jersey? That doesn't make sense to me, but neither does teams wearing dark jerseys at home. They need to get rid of this already.

i thought they were going to do a dallas cowboys impression and only have one color so the other team has to wear the other no matter what.

Im sure they would still be called the New York Islanders. The Rangers aren't the Manhattan Rangers.

everyone loves to have brooklyn in the name, sounds tough. Notice the dodgers were the only new york team ever not be called new york

I had no idea the season starts tomorrow until earlier today. Who runs promotion for the league, Sirius?

i would say its dumb but at the same time NO ONE cares about hockey in the fall except us die hards. When football is winding down their shitty marketing campaigns will begin.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Yeah, the NHL marketing campaign cranks up in time for the Winter Classic :icon_conf

did you guys know that they're doing 4 games over in Sweden? I had no idea...

[Begbie]

Yeah, the NHL marketing campaign cranks up in time for the Winter Classic :icon_conf

did you guys know that they're doing 4 games over in Sweden? I had no idea...

No clue. I actually had to go to NHL.com to see who played. I was under the assumption Tuesday night was the final night of preseason hockey. I thought I heard that during the Devs-Isles game...maybe they meant it was those two team's final preseason game.

[Begbie]

The Devils and Shanahan are parting (http://njmg.typepad.com/devilsblog/). Looks like there wasn't a good fit for Shanny, so he'll probably retire.

[Hoagie]

So it looks like I won't be able to watch the opening games tonight at home because I have Direct TV and no Vs. But the bright side is I called Direct TV and threatened to cancel and the gave my a $250 credit on my account and since I'm not working tomorrow I can go out and get drunk while watching the games.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Today...we are all Dallas Stars fans (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Video-Gentlemen-today-we-are-all-Dallas-Stars-?urn=nhl,192569)

[Begbie]

So it looks like I won't be able to watch the opening games tonight at home because I have Direct TV and no Vs. But the bright side is I called Direct TV and threatened to cancel and the gave my a $250 credit on my account and since I'm not working tomorrow I can go out and get drunk while watching the games.

I figure I'll just pick up an online feed or something. I'll deal with it just fine knowing I'm getting free NHL Center Ice and $10 off for a year. My neighbor called yesterday and got the free Center Ice, $10 for a year, AND a fuckin HD DVR box. I wish I pestered them about that.

[cleft_pallet]

I got my free Center Ice this morning.

[Aaron Burrito]

How are you guys getting Center Ice for free?

[cleft_pallet]

This is for Directv customers only.

Here is what you do:

Directv customers including those still under contract. I guarantee this will work. First off make the call. Ask for customer retention. Then it will ask question of whether you want to change program or cancel. Choose cancel option. That is critical. Because when you get to talk to customer retention they already know that you intend to cancel. Tell that you understand that they have to do what they have to do with Versus, but say that you can't go missing any hockey games this year. They may at the point just offer you CI for free right away. If at that point they don't offer it, they tell them you have already called Dish and they offered to pay your cancellation fee and give you CI for free. (I never called Dish) Explain to them that you like Directv and don't want to leave but you have to have hockey. That should work. I got CI for free. Good luck all.

It took 5 minutes of my time. Be polite, but firm.

[Aaron Burrito]

This is for Directv customers only.

Here is what you do:

Directv customers including those still under contract. I guarantee this will work. First off make the call. Ask for customer retention. Then it will ask question of whether you want to change program or cancel. Choose cancel option. That is critical. Because when you get to talk to customer retention they already know that you intend to cancel. Tell that you understand that they have to do what they have to do with Versus, but say that you can't go missing any hockey games this year. They may at the point just offer you CI for free right away. If at that point they don't offer it, they tell them you have already called Dish and they offered to pay your cancellation fee and give you CI for free. (I never called Dish) Explain to them that you like Directv and don't want to leave but you have to have hockey. That should work. I got CI for free. Good luck all.

It took 5 minutes of my time. Be polite, but firm.

Ok, I have FIOS but thanks for the explanation anyway.

[George Costanza]

Yeah, the NHL marketing campaign cranks up in time for the Winter Classic :icon_conf

did you guys know that they're doing 4 games over in Sweden? I had no idea...

Were you talking about the games vs the Swedish teams? I know Chicago and Detroit open they're season there a against the blues and 1 other team?

[Fuck Crosby]

How are you guys getting Center Ice for free?

Free preview all week.

[Fuck Crosby]

Were you talking about the games vs the Swedish teams? I know Chicago and Detroit open they're season there a against the blues and 1 other team?

Florida also

[FAZ8218]

Hockey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ginaf20697]

Free preview all week.


Free preview for 3 weeks actually.

[George Costanza]

Caps looking good, Ovechkin with 2 goals.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

if anyone's at home tomorrow...apparently Chicago plays on Versus at noon & Detroit plays at around 3-4ish

[Barely Legal]

Canucks/Flames about to start. Should be a violent affair... Vancouver's 4th line is made up of 3 fighters!

[Garyisajoke]

Capitals came out strong. It was good to see Brooks Laich step up like he did. The offense played exactly how they're supposed to, and Tim Thomas looked like shit.

Surprisingly, I thought Theodore played well. Varlamov is starting in the net for the Caps on Saturday, though.

By the way Ovechkin succinctly described tonight's game after the fact: "Just give me the pass and I score goal."

[Barely Legal]

Holy Christ that was a hit on Johnson by Nystrom. I thought he killed him.

[FAZ8218]

Holy shit thumbs up on those Flames jerseys. They look great.

[Absolutely]

Free preview for 3 weeks actually.

Is Center Ice just one channel, or are you talking about the package where you get every game?

I have "Game 2" on some channel like 876 it's Van/Calgary
But it says I have to subscribe.

[FAZ8218]

Is Center Ice just one channel, or are you talking about the package where you get every game?

I have "Game 2" on some channel like 876 it's Van/Calgary
But it says I have to subscribe.
It's the package where you get every game. It should be free for everyone.

[Barely Legal]

Thumbs down on Kevin Weekes as a colored commentator on CBC.

[Absolutely]

It's the package where you get every game. It should be free for everyone.

I don't know, I'm not getting it. Says I have to subscribe.

EDIT: "Charter doesn't start the Center ice package until Oct 2"
So I guess that's why...

I had no idea that the Blues opened in Sweeden. I just read that they're showing it at Scott Trade with 1/2 off concessions including beer. The Blues are like 7th fiddle in St.Louis, you don't hear anything about them. You'd have thought with as much sports and radio I listen to I would have known.

[FAZ8218]

Sick, you should go to that.

[Barely Legal]

Bullshit that Colorado only recognizes Sakic's career from 1995 to now. Fuckers.

[FAZ8218]

Bullshit that Colorado only recognizes Sakic's career from 1995 to now. Fuckers.
That's fuckin gay.

[Absolutely]

Sick, you should go to that.

2pm is a little early, plus half price concession beer is still not a great deal.

[Barely Legal]

Edler in my opinion has elevated his game to become the Canucks #1 defenceman. In some ways his game reminds me of Larry Robinson.

[iSpeakEloquent]

Thumbs down on Kevin Weekes as a colored commentator on CBC.

uh-boo

[Hoagie]

Today...we are all Dallas Stars fans (http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Video-Gentlemen-today-we-are-all-Dallas-Stars-?urn=nhl,192569)From the best hockey video we take a trip to the worst hockey video. (http://www.pensburgh.com/2009/10/1/1065676/im-no-expert-but-i-think-its-safe)

[Absolutely]

From the best hockey video we take a trip to the worst hockey video. (http://www.pensburgh.com/2009/10/1/1065676/im-no-expert-but-i-think-its-safe)

Why does the Polar Bear knowing crash himself into a city?
UAF supports terrorism.

[Hoagie]

There's so much shit that doesn't make sense in that video. Don't use CGI unless you're going to put the time into making good CGI or your bear might end up looking like Charlie Weiss.

[Papagolash]

From the best hockey video we take a trip to the worst hockey video. (http://www.pensburgh.com/2009/10/1/1065676/im-no-expert-but-i-think-its-safe)



Oh you motherfucker, I was going to post that earlier but forgot. That is by far the best fucking hockey team intro video ever! Space hockey polar bear that can destroy the moon and kill the 300,000+ people of Anchorage(the teams rival city). Fucking awesome.

[George Costanza]

Center Ice preview October 2nd to October 24th.

http://www.indemand.com/sports/nhl/

Does anyone know if the preview is watchable online?

[Barely Legal]

What a fucking goal by Kane. And he skated right by the NHL 10 rink board ad right after the goal, lol.

[George Costanza]

Gametime.
Go Wings hoping Bert regains his form it's possible.

[Barely Legal]

Gametime.
Go Wings hoping Bert regains his form it's possible.

Looks like it's Kariya who has regained his form. Holy shit what a wrist shot.

[George Costanza]

Looks like it's Kariya who has regained his form. Holy shit what a wrist shot.

Yeah he's looking sharp, I forgot he was on the Blues roster. Osgood is more a playoff goalie than a regular season one. Too bad Conklin and his 25 wins are gone.

[Absolutely]

Looks like it's Kariya who has regained his form. Holy shit what a wrist shot.

A healthy Kariya would be great, but he's an old man. The other old man Tkachuk with an assist.
Sucks I don't get VS in HD

[Fuck Crosby]

Andrei Markov out 4 months.........shit!

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Damn! What'd he do?

Decent banner raising in Pittsburgh tonight, didn't take overly long, nice and classy. Now I just want the Rangers to ruin it :D

[Fuck Crosby]

Damn! What'd he do?

Decent banner raising in Pittsburgh tonight, didn't take overly long, nice and classy. Now I just want the Rangers to ruin it :D

Montreal Canadiens defenceman Andrei Markov will be out four months with a torn tendon that he suffered on opening night. The veteran defenceman suffered the injury during a collision with goalie Carey Price in the third period of Thursday night's win over the Maple Leafs.

He got tied up with Price during Toronto's last goal

[Hoagie]

Nice win for the Blues tonight. It's good to see them come out of the gate with a win after all those down years. Take the preseason out and the Red Wings have now lost their last 3 games. :action-sm

[FAZ8218]

A huge win too. They were losing 3-1. They came out like a different team after that.

[Barely Legal]

A huge win too. They were losing 3-1. They came out like a different team after that.

Blues became the NHL's most aggressive forechecking team last year to deal with the injuries they had. Now with a healthy team they are still forechecking the shit of their opponents. They are going to be a scary darkhorse team.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

I hope so, I like the Blues...they belong back in the playoffs

[Hoagie]

I'm very happy with tonight. It was a great banner raising celebration and a great game. Good to see Sid and Geno getting goals and good to see the 3rd line clicking like they did.

[iSpeakEloquent]

I hope so, I like the Blues...they belong back in the playoffs

me too

WEST: Chicago over St. Louis


:action-sm

[Absolutely]

Blues looking decent again, just got a PP goal by Tkachuck 2Goals and 1Assist.
5-3 Blues

[George Costanza]

Blues looking decent again, just got a PP goal by Tkachuck 2Goals and 1Assist.
5-3 Blues

Blues are looking great. Tchachuck and Kariya have turned back the clock. Gonna be a long season for Wings fan with the Goaltending. Too bad Conklin is gone in addition to the other 4 free agent forwards. Last 3 years were great though.

[Absolutely]

It's nice having Erik Johnson back, who might have scored that goal that they credited to Tkachuck at the end.

[ginaf20697]

New Peter Puck BLOWS!

[Hoagie]

Let's see what this Tavares kid looks like in his first NHL game.

[SurlyTruckDrivr]

is anyone signed up for the NHL online. They fucking charged my card the $159 for the season, and it's not letting me access the fucking games. It keeps throwing me around in circles. Asking me to sign in, then if I want the service do I want to pay monthly or at once. When I click on watch live game, this is whee it takes me. The payment already cleared my account, so I know it went through ok. WTF!!!

[Hoagie]

I've never used it before. It sounds like your account just isn't authorized yet. Try contacting their support line. They may just have to change a setting in your account.

[SurlyTruckDrivr]

I checked everywhere, it was a renewal from last year. In the email I got, they said no further action was needed, I'm so fucking pissed right now, i should just walk away before I break this fucking computer. An of course, the Bruins are up 3-0, why would I want to see it. Fucking cunts, called the phone numbers, but I got a busy signal, Fuckit, before I have a stroke, I'm gonna walk away

[ginaf20697]

Sounds as bad as Real Player. They have the most fucked up website EVER.

[SurlyTruckDrivr]

yeah, it's really fucked up trying to navigate. I really need to move back to New england somewhere, fuck this shit. The MLB one is so easy to use, NHL gamecenter blows

[SurlyTruckDrivr]

I have major fucking anger issues. I'm sitting here screaming at the cpu because the NHL online website won't let me watch the games online that I paid for, in the fit of rage I'm having, I completely forget I have XM and could at least listen to the goddamn game. Not that it matters now, I'm beyond fucking pissed and don't give a shit, but I really need to learn to control my temper

[Hoagie]

Maybe it's busy because they are having technical problems. I would keep trying the phone and be happy that, if you have to miss a game, this is the one you're missing.

[SurlyTruckDrivr]

hopefully, but I couldn't watch the game the other night either, but as of Thursday the payment hadn't cleared my account, so I figured that was why. My laptop is only 6 months old, so I know that's not the problem. oh well, I'll listen and try the phone again Monday during business hours

[Garyisajoke]

Back from the Caps home opener. The Caps' scoring line of Ovechkin-Backstrom-Semin is probably the best offensive threat in hockey. The team looked sharp, but really got lazy after building a big lead.

I like the way this season is starting, though.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d151/garyisajoke/IMG_2791_sm.jpg

[Begbie]

Let's see what this Tavares kid looks like in his first NHL game.

Well...got the first goal and first assist out of the way. :rockon"

It was overall a great game to watch. Tavares had some really golden chances...Okposo too. They will be a great duo down the road. Fleury had a great save on the Tavares breakaway. Overall...my team lost in the shootout...but the two points to kick off this kid's career makes up for alot of it. The missed shot in the shootout kinda stung though. I guess he's a bust. :icon_cool

[Hoagie]

Well...got the first goal and first assist out of the way. :rockon"

It was overall a great game to watch. Tavares had some really golden chances...Okposo too. They will be a great duo down the road. Fleury had a great save on the Tavares breakaway. Overall...my team lost in the shootout...but the two points to kick off this kid's career makes up for alot of it. The missed shot in the shootout kinda stung though. I guess he's a bust. :icon_coolTavares looks very promising. i really think they made the right choice in drafting him. He could be the backbone of that team for a long time. Okposo I'm a little less high on. Maybe if he stops cherry picking so much...

[George Costanza]

Wang to consider relocating islanders.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=4529489

[Begbie]

Wang to consider relocating islanders.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=4529489

Well...the deadline is passed, and if it's one thing about Wang...it's that he keeps his word. Just ask Sean Bergenheim or Zdeno Chara who wanted to play hard ball with the Isles and ignore Wang's "Sign your qualifier by September 20th or sit the season". Bergenheim fired his agent over it.

It is amazing that this cunt decides to call Wang personally a day before his deadline looking to negotiate and to amend his project. Then, when Wang tells her to keep this conversation private...he ends up reading about it Saturday morning. Actually, I first heard about it Friday night, a couple hours after the call. You know that cunt or her associates were on the phone with Newsday and Botta as soon as she hung up with Wang.

We're on about 10 years since Wang bought the team, about 5 years since the original Lighthouse project took shape. That was scaled down since the 60-story tower wouldn't get approval. So, 2 years with this current proposal. Since then, the County has given their full support, but the town of Hempstead is suggesting that they'll support renovations of just the Coliseum with stimulus money. That's it. They then start sending mixed signals. And now this. The first thing Wang said last night is that he better start speaking russian...regarding the Russian billionaire who purchased part of the Nets. I'm thinking at this point, Wang should just tell Hempstead to go fuck themselves and get this team to Brooklyn or to the site in Queens. He's given Hempstead and the county plenty of time to get their shit in order. Let them risk tens of thousands of jobs and have that Coliseum and Marriott rot away on that site.

[ginaf20697]

Seriously. If I was him I'd have just been looking for a better place from the beginning. Hempstead is a shithole and it's only going to get worse without the Isles there.

[Sack of Chisels]

A devils fan starts a fight with a bunch of flyers fans after last nights game.:icon_lol:

IN0hqq_oJsU

http://www.the700level.com/2009/10/flyers-bus-trips-to-jersey-end-in-violence-stabbing.html

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Fuck Kate in the throat. I don't mean "shove a cock down her mouth" either...I mean legitimately, just shove a cock through the front of her neck

[FAZ8218]

I've said it before, I'll say it again. I love the Rangers, but I live on Long Island, and when hockey leaves my backyard, I will be sad.

[Begbie]

It's obvious now that Hempstead doesn't want the Lighthouse project. Chris Botta just posted a link to a Newsday story where Kate Murray and Hempstead pols are now putting everything back on Wang (http://www.newsday.com/long-island/nassau/hempstead-pols-wang-created-his-own-deadline-dilemma-1.1499979). By voting it down, Kate Murray and Hempstead pols lose alot of support. But by laying blame on Wang and RexCorp for shoddy and incomplete plans (even if they're elaborate and have been available for two years), they can kill the project and keep some support.

If you remember back about a month ago, Hempstead intentionally set a meeting for 9/22, the date the Isles and Wang were set to be in Kansas City for the game against the Kings. They did this because they assumed Wang wouldn't show, and they can then blame him for playing games and not showing up to this meeting, even if Kate Murray had missed numerous previous meetings. Well, Wang canceled his trip to Kansas City to be at the meeting. Hempstead also planned for this to be a vigorous Q&A that would hopefully wear down the Lighthouse group. They were grilling Wang's team on issues and questions for ten hours... shit that had been covered over the course of two years and even suggesting that Wang's partners at Rexcorp couldn't even figure out how many buildings are in the plans (just count them in the fuckin aerial view of the plans). It made the Lighthouse group very agitated, to which Hempstead followed up with a "well, they clearly don't have their act together, they can only blame themselves." A day before Wang's deadline, Kate Murray calls Wang to "negotiate" and to see if he'll scale down the project a bit. She was hoping he'd say no and that the negotiations are over, which she can then go to Newsday and say, "welp, I'm trying to get thru to him to get answers and he won't even meet with me now." Wang said the negotiations are over, but that he'd hear her out. So now, Hempstead is hammering away on the "we do not have everything we need from the Lighthouse group and their arrogance from the 9/22 meeting just shows that they have no idea what they're doing."

Kate Murray and Wang will meet next week...but according to Wang, she'll have to compete for his time since he has bragged that their may be as many as 8 potential groups interested in the franchise. She'll ask him to scale the project down, Wang will say no, and she'll then kill the project on the grounds that they cannot get the full details of the project (bullshit) and Wang is not being cooperative. Meanwhile, Chris Botta is interviewing her opponent in the next election tomorrow. So long Kate...hit the bricks toots. But importantly, so long Islanders. Hopefully, Wang can work a deal in Brooklyn. At least they'll have rail access, which the Lighthouse plans lacked. But I think this may spell the end of hockey in Uniondale.

[Hoagie]

It's obvious now that Hempstead doesn't want the Lighthouse project.Lemieux ran into alot of these problems at the state government level thanks to that fucktard Rendell. Wang really needed/needs (I don't know if it's too late at this point) to create a grass roots movement in the fan base to get them to make their opinion known. Rendell didn't want to pledge any state money toward the new arena and would lay the blame on the Pens and Lemieux's group. But the Pens put the word out to the fans and organized several rallies that thousands showed up to to make it crystal clear that if the Pens moved out of Pittsburgh the blame would be directed at Rendell alone. Faced with the showing of voters making it known that he would be held accountable Rendell gave in and signed a deal to partially fund the arena project. Of course being the cunt that he is, he came back later and tried make up a reason not to give them the money and the Pen's ownership group made a public trip to Kansas City followed by a couple more rallies and finally Rendell made good on his deal.

[iSpeakEloquent]

A devils fan starts a fight with a bunch of flyers fans after last nights game.:icon_lol:

IN0hqq_oJsU

http://www.the700level.com/2009/10/flyers-bus-trips-to-jersey-end-in-violence-stabbing.html

don't you mean flyers "fans" 4 guys and not one jersey older than 1 year between them.

Lemieux ran into alot of these problems at the state government level thanks to that fucktard Rendell. Wang really needed/needs (I don't know if it's too late at this point) to create a grass roots movement in the fan base to get them to make their opinion known. Rendell didn't want to pledge any state money toward the new arena and would lay the blame on the Pens and Lemieux's group. But the Pens put the word out to the fans and organized several rallies that thousands showed up to to make it crystal clear that if the Pens moved out of Pittsburgh the blame would be directed at Rendell alone. Faced with the showing of voters making it known that he would be held accountable Rendell gave in and signed a deal to partially fund the arena project. Of course being the cunt that he is, he came back later and tried make up a reason not to give them the money and the Pen's ownership group made a public trip to Kansas City followed by a couple more rallies and finally Rendell made good on his deal.

they have a big movement, they show a terrible music video before the game with the corniest song ever called "meet me at the lighthouse." It's probably the worst thing ever put up on a screen anywhere

[Begbie]

Lemieux ran into alot of these problems at the state government level thanks to that fucktard Rendell. Wang really needed/needs (I don't know if it's too late at this point) to create a grass roots movement in the fan base to get them to make their opinion known. Rendell didn't want to pledge any state money toward the new arena and would lay the blame on the Pens and Lemieux's group. But the Pens put the word out to the fans and organized several rallies that thousands showed up to to make it crystal clear that if the Pens moved out of Pittsburgh the blame would be directed at Rendell alone. Faced with the showing of voters making it known that he would be held accountable Rendell gave in and signed a deal to partially fund the arena project. Of course being the cunt that he is, he came back later and tried make up a reason not to give them the money and the Pen's ownership group made a public trip to Kansas City followed by a couple more rallies and finally Rendell made good on his deal.

The big difference here is that Wang is not looking for money. That's what makes this very political. He and his group will pay for the whole damn thing...no taxpayer money, no stimulus, nothing, just reap the benefits of the added revenue and jobs over the long term. He just wants them to say, "Sure, you can build your project on this 70+ acre plot of land...something we've been promising this franchise since it began in the early 70's". There has been more than just some hacky video...there's been rallies and many supporters have turned up at these hearings. But no, it's not enough. But, I honestly don't think much can be done at this point. Like I said, there has been talk to develop the surrounding land since the Coliseum was built, and talk of renovations to the facility since the mid-90's...it ain't getting done even if it's free.

[Hoagie]

It's not that different. In the end the only thing that will get the deal done is if enough people send the message to the politicians that if they lose the Islanders they lose their next election.

[Absolutely]

A devils fan starts a fight with a bunch of flyers fans after last nights game.:icon_lol:

IN0hqq_oJsU


We don't do that!
We don't do that!
Hey! We don't do that!
We don't do that!
Hey, Hey! We don't do that!
We don't do that!

[FAZ8218]

John Shorthouse ftw!

[iSpeakEloquent]

The big difference here is that Wang is not looking for money. That's what makes this very political. He and his group will pay for the whole damn thing...no taxpayer money, no stimulus, nothing, just reap the benefits of the added revenue and jobs over the long term. He just wants them to say, "Sure, you can build your project on this 70+ acre plot of land...something we've been promising this franchise since it began in the early 70's". There has been more than just some hacky video...there's been rallies and many supporters have turned up at these hearings. But no, it's not enough. But, I honestly don't think much can be done at this point. Like I said, there has been talk to develop the surrounding land since the Coliseum was built, and talk of renovations to the facility since the mid-90's...it ain't getting done even if it's free.

that video is one of the most douche chilling things ive ever seen. It looks like it was made in the 80s. There has to be someone at computer associates that could've done a better job. They need something to get the people pumped, not something for people to go "ugh when does the puck drop already"

[Begbie]

Well...it looks like Queens may be the first to talk to Wang (http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey/islanders/chamber-of-commerce-eyes-islanders-move-to-queens-1.1501382). Being from way outside of the NY market now, I greatly favor this more so than Uniondale. Wang gets a brand new arena (despite a possibly more scaled down Lighthouse at Willets Point), rail access (a new subway series with the Rangers), and they can partner with the Mets. It would take at least 5-6 years...which is perfect since the lease expires in 2015. Speaking of the lease...I was wrong in the past, there may be an opportunity for the Isles to terminate the current lease and move before 2015. In 2007, the county and Wang agreed to a clause allowing the Isles to back out of the current lease if Nassau legislators do not approve the new 99-year lease that were set to unveil in the future. They proposed the new lease last Thursday and they have 120 days to vote on it. They will not vote on it until Hempstead approves the project. Without a vote after 120 days, Wang can terminate the lease at any time and move the team.

On another note...I heard Alexei Semenov nixed a contract offer from the Rangers because his wife didn't want to go to NY. He instead is headed to the KHL. I'd love to hear that conversation...

"The Rangers offered me a contract and a shot as a 6th or 7th d-man on the team".

"OH, the big hockey star wants to play in the biggest city in the world! Haven't you ever considered MY wants and needs?"

[Begbie]

M.A. Bergeron signs with the habs as Markov's replacement. Bergeron has a heckuva shot and is pretty good on power play. Everywhere else, he would compete for a spot on an ECHL team. He did stand out in Anaheim a few years ago...but alas, he was paired with Chris Pronger, who covered his ass when he made a mistake defensively.

[George Costanza]

SPORTSNET.CA: Mark Spector recently reported if NY Islanders goaltender gets anywhere close to healthy to look for Isles GM Garth Snow to offer either Martin Biron or Dwayne Roloson to the Detroit Red Wings.

SPECTOR'S NOTE: Of those two I believe Biron is the most likely to be shopped as he's younger than Roloson by 8 years and carries a more affordable $1.4 million contract. As to either being offered to the Red Wings it's a little premature to make that assessment. Let's see how Wings backup Jimmy Howard performs over the next four-six weeks


Here's hoping Dipietro has made a full recovery. Wish the Wings would of kept Conklin as he was great for the Pens and Wings last couple years. I've seen enough of Howards goaltending and oversized pads.

[Fred Told Me]

Here's hoping Dipietro has made a full recovery. Wish the Wings would of kept Conklin as he was great for the Pens and Wings last couple years. I've seen enough of Howards goaltending and oversized pads.

Slowdown with the Great. If Ty Conklin was ever great he wouldn't be a career backup. He is a solid backup goaltender. That's it. Don't use the word great. Even Osgood isn't great. However Conklin is certainly a better backup option than Howard.

[Begbie]

For Marty Biron, this was an "oh shit...I better sign somewhere since it appears I'm not going to get the money I want and I'm running out of places that would take me." He signed for a measily $1.4M and is on tap to split time with Rolie. DiPietro however, started skating during training camp and just last week, began facing shots, albeit not acrobatic, high intensity type of exercises. The plan is to still get him in a game by late November and ease him back into form, hoping there are no setbacks. The Isles also realized they have a pretty solid core of goalies in Bridgeport, who had exceptional camps (Lawson, Munroe, Koskinen)...so if the right deal comes around now, I can see them dealing Biron soon for a pick or prospect.

[George Costanza]

Slowdown with the Great. If Ty Conklin was ever great he wouldn't be a career backup. He is a solid backup goaltender. That's it. Don't use the word great. Even Osgood isn't great. However Conklin is certainly a better backup option than Howard.

As a backup goaltender Conklin is indeed great. I think the Wings payed him 750k last year and he had a great record. He was great for Pittsburgh the year before when Fleury went down with an injury.

The point here is he's a backup.
Stop trying to find fault with all my posts Jackass.:action-sm

[Fred Told Me]

with an injury.

The point here is he's a backup.


Exactly. Hence he is not great. And why are you worried about a backup goaltender, when you root for a great team such as Detroit.

And if you didn't make it so easy to point out your numerous faults, I wouldn't have to.

[FAZ8218]

Ok I have a more serious issue...

Where is the sticky for this thread?

[George Costanza]

CapsvsFlyers should be a battle.
Predict Philly wins 4-3

[Begbie]

Ok I have a more serious issue...

Where is the sticky for this thread?

I second that, Faz.

On another note...you got two teams (Car/TBL) that have each won a Cup in the last five years, facing off against each other. And neither team is carrying the game on TV. Fox Sports Carolina is instead showing Best Damn Sports Special and a soccer game...Sun Sports in Florida is showing fishing shows. Wow.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

On another note...you got two teams (Car/TBL) that have each won a Cup in the last five years, facing off against each other. And neither team is carrying the game on TV. Fox Sports Carolina is instead showing Best Damn Sports Special and a soccer game...Sun Sports in Florida is showing fishing shows. Wow.

I find that more problematic than the lack of a sticky...but then again, I'm a Mod and can stick it. We've got a LOT of sports stickies though

[Begbie]

I find that more problematic than the lack of a sticky...but then again, I'm a Mod and can stick it. We've got a LOT of sports stickies though

Thanks! I thought I was gonna have to resort to those nude Emma Watson photoshopsto get it stickied. :icon_cool

Oh, and I don't see a stickied Isles season thread for me and Cromwe....nevermind.

[George Costanza]

Ovy killing it with 2 goals.
Varlamov's glove side high still looks weak.

[FAZ8218]

I second that, Faz.

On another note...you got two teams (Car/TBL) that have each won a Cup in the last five years, facing off against each other. And neither team is carrying the game on TV. Fox Sports Carolina is instead showing Best Damn Sports Special and a soccer game...Sun Sports in Florida is showing fishing shows. Wow.
I was wondering why Center Ice wasn't carrying the game. I find it mind-boggling that any major league sports team could not televise a game.

[FAZ8218]

We've got a LOT of sports stickies though
Yes, but this and the Rangers thread have been stickies for the last 4 seasons. So they can all go screw.

[Begbie]

Fuck the Leafs and Burke...


Report: Canucks To File Tampering Charges Against the Maple Leafs (http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=294023)

It appears as though the Toronto Maple Leafs may be in a bit of hot water as they have been accused of tampering by the Vancouver Canucks.
In an interview with Vancouver radio station TEAM 1040 on Monday, Canucks general manager Mike Gillis stated that the Canucks are pursuing tampering charges with the NHL after Leafs GM Brian Burke's comments about a proposed Canucks trade with Tampa Bay at last spring's draft were made public.
Burke was caught on a recently-released bit on Leafs TV discussing a rumoured deal between the Canucks and the Tampa Bay Lightning that would have seen defenceman Kevin Bieksa (http://tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/?name=kevin+bieksa), forward Alex Burrows (http://tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/?name=alex+burrows) and the Canucks top pick (22nd overall) being sent to the Lightning in an attempt to grab Swedish defenceman Victor Hedman (http://tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/?name=victor+hedman) with the second overall pick.
Gillis told TEAM 1040 the Canucks have brought the matter up with the NHL and that he was surprised that Burke would allow the conversation to be made public.
"There are certainly some issues that the league needs to take control off when players' names are being thrown around. You're talking about lives and families and those things need to be kept confidential when you may be discussing a transaction of some type. There was a mention of player's names, which was very upsetting for them, and it doesn't make me feel very good."
Earlier in the summer, Maple Leafs' head coach Ron Wilson made remarks that could possibly be interpreted as tampering on a Toronto radio station when he stated that the Leafs' would be interested in going after the Sedin twins during the free agency period.
The Canucks have decided that enough is enough and are bringing the matter up with the NHL; however Gillis told TEAM 1040 that he does not expect a major confrontation.
"Listen, I don't anticipate a fight with anybody, however we're going to protect the integrity of this organization and our players. If anybody wants to take a shot at them inappropriately, we're going to protect our interests."
Gillis stated that he is concerned about the precedent being set if the Maple Leafs are allowed to walk away after making comments about players on other NHL teams.
"Once the league becomes involved in a very serious matter it isn't prudent for us to talk about it. It isn't prudent for us to threaten or do anything or escalate a situation. The league is the watchdog here and it's up to them to deal with these issues as they see fit. And, as a member of the league, our owners want protection from anything that may be adverse to their interests. I think that's common to every team in the league, I think every owner would expect that, and that's what we expect."

[Barely Legal]

Fuck the Leafs and Burke...

I agree.

And about fucking time we got our sticky back. :icon_cool

[iSpeakEloquent]

On another note...I heard Alexei Semenov nixed a contract offer from the Rangers because his wife didn't want to go to NY. He instead is headed to the KHL. I'd love to hear that conversation...

"The Rangers offered me a contract and a shot as a 6th or 7th d-man on the team".

"OH, the big hockey star wants to play in the biggest city in the world! Haven't you ever considered MY wants and needs?"

during openning night in pittsburgh they showed him explaining his problem to sather in the stands during the morning skate. Semenov sitting behind glen and glen is just smiling and rolling his eyes.

[George Costanza]

Howe Likes Ovechkin, calls him a throwback. He was at that great game versus Philly.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=501269

[Begbie]

Brooklyn now makes it public that they want the Islanders to join the Nets (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/islanders_are_brooklyn_goal_mWWOPFjEMa4i3weGU1zRFO ). I think all of this local interest for the franchise makes it highly unlikely that the Isles move out of the NY market (Kansas City Drylanders!!! wocka wocka! LOL!!! ROFL!!!!! :icon_cool).

It would be contingent on getting Ratner to alter the plans of the Barclays Center to be fit for a rink. Wang and Ratner have a bit of a business relationship, so I would not be surprised if they've at least had a conversation. But Queens would potentially give Wang some land to develop a portion of his Lighthouse project, so I'm sure he would ultimately prefer Queens over Brooklyn...as do I.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Haha, you like queens :icon_cool

[iSpeakEloquent]

Brooklyn now makes it public that they want the Islanders to join the Nets (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/islanders_are_brooklyn_goal_mWWOPFjEMa4i3weGU1zRFO ). I think all of this local interest for the franchise makes it highly unlikely that the Isles move out of the NY market (Kansas City Drylanders!!! wocka wocka! LOL!!! ROFL!!!!! :icon_cool).

It would be contingent on getting Ratner to alter the plans of the Barclays Center to be fit for a rink. Wang and Ratner have a bit of a business relationship, so I would not be surprised if they've at least had a conversation. But Queens would potentially give Wang some land to develop a portion of his Lighthouse project, so I'm sure he would ultimately prefer Queens over Brooklyn...as do I.

i liked inlanders better

i think queens is better too. Love brooklyn but queens feels more long island to me.

[Barely Legal]

John Shorthouse ftw!

Heidi Androl ftw!

[Barely Legal]

Seriously, this line of Kopitar, Smyth and Williams is ridiculous.

[FAZ8218]

Heatley scores. Great game in SJ, I'll be tired tomorrow and I really don't care.

[Hoagie]

I never thought the day would come that I would actually feel bad for the Flyers but when it's only human nature to pity a group that has gotten owned by a team so badly year after year that it results in them running the goalie at the end of yet another loss and Scott Hartnell has to bite Chris Letang's hand. That's right...from Broad Street Bullies to little bitches that have to bite and pull hair. On second thought I would feel bad for the Flyers if their team plane crashed tomorrow.

[Hoagie]

I invite you all to watch the always classy Flyers live up to their reputation in this video. Notice that faggot Richards run Fluery and not even come close to hitting his head on anything but hold it like he was hurt so no one would beat him up. Then notice the scrum where Letang, on the far left of the scrum, turns to the official after being bitten by Hartnell. The Flyers aren't bullies. They're sissies.

UneRznYJTcI

[Papagolash]

Both teams are a bunch of fagots.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Apparently Hartnell is not going to get suspended or punished (http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=294310) for having a little snack at the end of the game.

Theo Fleury admits that he was a tussle-able lad (http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=294301)

[iSpeakEloquent]

Both teams are a bunch of fagots.

qft

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Franzen torn ACL (http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=294313) - out minimum 4 months

[iSpeakEloquent]

I invite you all to watch the always classy Flyers live up to their reputation in this video. Notice that faggot Richards run Fluery and not even come close to hitting his head on anything but hold it like he was hurt so no one would beat him up. Then notice the scrum where Letang, on the far left of the scrum, turns to the official after being bitten by Hartnell. The Flyers aren't bullies. They're sissies.

UneRznYJTcI

god i hate most sports commentators. Whether he faked it or not, you can't accuse a player of faking an injury. I fuckin hate homer commentators.

[George Costanza]

Franzen torn ACL (http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=294313) - out minimum 4 months

Wow glad I didn't expect much out of the Wings this year after 3 grueling playoff runs. This really blows, gonna be a rough few months for Wings fans used to dominating other teams. Losing a power forward like Franzen sucks cause the Wings are a small team.

Here's hoping Bertuzzi steps up?

[Fred Told Me]

god i hate most sports commentators. Whether he faked it or not, you can't accuse a player of faking an injury. I fuckin hate homer commentators.

Not to mention they make it seem like Richards skated full speed from center ice in to Fleury. Could he have avoided Fleury? Probably. But it wasn't as blatant as they made it out to be.

[Hoagie]

god i hate most sports commentators. Whether he faked it or not, you can't accuse a player of faking an injury. I fuckin hate homer commentators.Yeah it's like when people say professional wrestling isn't real. The guy smacked his hand against the crossbar and he hurt his head. I see it all the time in the WWE where a guy stomps the floor and hurts the other guy. It has to be real, right?

[ginaf20697]

Yeah I was watching the Pens feed last night. Those announcers are awful.

[George Costanza]

Yeah I was watching the Pens feed last night. Those announcers are awful.

Try the Predators announcers. Watch highlights of TooToo cheapshots on youtube makes your stomach twist, the commentary. All announcers should be homers a little anything more is hacky.

[Barely Legal]

This story just came out of nowhere, but it has some legs:

http://www.theprovince.com/entertainment/Former+Nordiques+owner+mayor+meet+boss/2090774/story.html

Quebec City's mayor and the former owner of the Quebec Nordiques met with NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman Friday in New York City, the French-language television network LCN has reported.

According to the report, Mayor Regis Labeaume and Marcel Aubut discussed the possibility of Quebec City getting a new NHL team.

The meeting took place as rumours are swirling about a new arena to be built to replace the old Colisee, where the Quebec Nordiques played from the time they were established in the World Hockey Association in 1972 until the franchise was sold and moved to Colorado in 1995. At the time, Aubut wanted the provincial government to chip in the funds needed to build a new arena.

Bettman has said that building a new arena would be a key to establishing a new franchise in Quebec City.

LCN reported an announcement either about the arena or a new NHL franchise could come next week.


Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing the Nordiques come back in the NHL. Maybe they'll do the right thing and retire Sakic's number based on his ENTIRE career with the franchise, unlike those faggots in Colorado.

[George Costanza]

This story just came out of nowhere, but it has some legs:

http://www.theprovince.com/entertainment/Former+Nordiques+owner+mayor+meet+boss/2090774/story.html




Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing the Nordiques come back in the NHL. Maybe they'll do the right thing and retire Sakic's number based on his ENTIRE career with the franchise, unlike those faggots in Colorado.

It would have to be relocation though right? I can't see the Nhl expanding right now despite Bettmans incompetence. I'd like to see at least 2 franchises relocate to Canada.

[samurai]

I know that it's a teary eye moment for me alone, but when the Hawks introduced the team for opening night, they also intro'd Hull, Mikita, Esposito and Savard. Not noteworthy, except they were in full uniform (from their era), skated up and lined up with the team for the Anthem. Amazing!






I know it might be sappy, but I also know that some here appreciate the HOF'rs.

[SurlyTruckDrivr]

jesus, about time the Bruins get something going. Completely outplayed the first 50 minutes

tied 3-3

[maz]

Have the Sharks and Northstars on now

Why ?

I miss most Flyers games at work

Fuckin' Comcast

And we have a dish at work


2-2 I think

Not really paying attention

[maz]

Sharks win

Woo Hoo

Who Cares

[Jimmy's Dignity]

It would have to be relocation though right? I can't see the Nhl expanding right now despite Bettmans incompetence. I'd like to see at least 2 franchises relocate to Canada.

I'd hope to fuck it'd be relocation. That being said, I'm sure Bettman would prefer expansion so the league could have 32 teams like the NFL, even if 10 of them are borderline failing. Remember, more cities > more expansive & accessible television coverage :arrrh:

[George Costanza]

Caps news
Nylander and the Caps
The Washington Capitals, I'm told, have been close a couple of times over the past few weeks in loaning veteran center Michael Nylander to a KHL team in Russia. But it hasn't happened yet. The Caps would still have to pay him the majority of his salary ($5.5 million this season, $3 million next season), but, at least under this scenario, they could get a Russian team to offset some of the salary. Plus, the big bonus for the Caps would be getting his $4.875 million cap hit totally off the books. There's still hope something will work out with a Russian team. Jaromir Jagr is apparently pushing his team, Avangard Omsk, to land his former NHL teammate.

Not surprising that Jagr wants to play with him given the success they had together in New York. Wonder what happened to Nylander.

[Barely Legal]

Ooooofff. Daniel Sedin is out for 4-6 weeks with a broken foot.

http://communities.canada.com/theprovince/blogs/whitetowel/archive/2009/10/11/daniel-sedin-in-cast-on-crutches-with-broken-foot.aspx


And in case you can't tell which Sedin twin is injured, it's this one:

http://images.tsn.ca/images/stories/20081013/sedin_50143.jpg



And not this one:

http://canucksarmy.com/uploads/old/2009/06/sedins.jpg

[smurray06]

them running the goalie at the end of yet another loss

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLQqOYjj_mI
?

[Hoagie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLQqOYjj_mI?
Still hurts ya, doesn't it? :icon_mrgr

At least he didn't pull a WWE move and pretend to hurt himself so no one would make him pay for it.

[smurray06]

Still hurts ya, doesn't it? :icon_mrgr

At least he didn't pull a WWE move and pretend to hurt himself so no one would make him pay for it.

meh, i've come to the realization that it is better to appreciate good hockey then hate a team cause they have crosby, too bad the rest of dc can't realize that. oh yea, and it didn't hurt malkin was the playoff mvp ;). as long as russia v sweden in for gold medal i'm happy too.
oh yea, that is true, too bad the caps have no one to make him pay for it though, but we have a hell of a lot of 3rd paring defenders.

[iSpeakEloquent]

Wonder what happened to Nylander.

he stopped playing with jagr

[George Costanza]

Anyone know why there are two games going on right now? How many people are watching hockey at 1 o'clock on a Monday? Dollars to doughnuts it was Bettman's and the owner of the Bruins idea.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Normally schools are closed on Columbus Day, so I guess that's how/why the game's on. If the NHL was smart (they're not) they'd have at least advertised or made it be a nationally televised game.

[smurray06]

. Wonder what happened to Nylander.
he was at a point per game pace with glen hamlon as the caps coach but when hamlon was fired and budruea (i'm pretty sure i spelled both coachs name's wrong) came in and totally changed the system, he doesn't like nylander and just refuses to play him.

[ginaf20697]

It would make more sense if they were Canadian games considering it's Thanksgiving up there and they're more likely to be off than we are down here.

[Fuck Crosby]

Normally schools are closed on Columbus Day, so I guess that's how/why the game's on. If the NHL was smart (they're not) they'd have at least advertised or made it be a nationally televised game.

I didn't even know it was a holiday today until I saw these two games on at 1.

[Barely Legal]

Haha Calgary!

[FAZ8218]

Wow Calgary, wow.

[Barely Legal]

Been a while since I watched a team lose a game after holding a 5-goal lead.

[FAZ8218]

Been a while since I watched a team lose a game after holding a 5-goal lead.
Haha yeah remember when the Rangers...... oh wait. :(


EDIT: Haha Versus just showed highlights right after I posted it.

[Barely Legal]

Haha yeah remember when the Rangers...... oh wait. :(


EDIT: Haha Versus just showed highlights right after I posted it.

The feed I was watching was a Flames PPV broadcast -- so the fans in Calgary had to pay around $12 to watch their team collapse. :icon_mrgr

[FAZ8218]

Ay naiy that's terrible.

[samurai]

The feed I was watching was a Flames PPV broadcast -- so the fans in Calgary had to pay around $12 to watch their team collapse. :icon_mrgr

That's a shame.








:haha7::haha7::haha7::haha7::haha7::haha7:-Unanswered

[seeinred]

That game doesn't make my prediction of Kipper getting back into Vezina-contention seem very likely.

And on another note, do you guys want to do weekend picks again this season? I have a more efficient way to keep score now, so I shouldn't be as lazy about it as I was last season :action-sm

[Barely Legal]

Fuck Ovechkin and his TV commercials for used cars. THIS is the way NHL players should be used on TV:

LINK (http://vimeo.com/6782718)

[George Costanza]

Cool goal by a North American in the KHL. I think they call it a Michigan. Shows how much higher the talent level is in the NHL. The defenseman should of been all over that.


http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Video-Nasty-scoop-shot-goals-North-America-s-g?urn=nhl,195401

[Barely Legal]

Seriously, this line of Kopitar, Smyth and Williams is ridiculous.


This had to be said again. Scary line.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

They are really fucking good. I'm hoping the Rangers keep them contained, but once Smyth scored, it really changed the flow of the game & gave the Kings all the momentum

[Fuck Crosby]

According to Stan Fischler, Lighthouse Project is dead. No comment yet from the Isles. Shame they couldn't get it done if true, cock blocked by that cunt

[Jimmy's Dignity]

yeah, I heard that during intermission of the Rangers game. Lighthouse project is dead and allegedly Wang is already discussing things with Flushing Meadows out in Queens

[Begbie]

According to Stan Fischler, Lighthouse Project is dead. No comment yet from the Isles. Shame they couldn't get it done if true, cock blocked by that cunt

Yeah....Chris Botta is reporting it as well (http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2009/10/report-lighthouse-project-goes-dark/) that Wang has pulled his plans...per the Long Island Press. Botta left messages with a few from the Lighthouse group and they've yet to return his call. The theory is that Wang did meet with Kate Murray and it's believed that it didn't go well at all. You know Murray was demanding that he just renovate the arena and leave that sea of cracking concrete undeveloped around it. The ball was probably put in his court and his reply was rightfully to go fuck herself and to enjoy that rotting arena...err, convention center for years to come. That and the fact that it's likely Murray gets re-elected in a month, so Wang must've felt that all hope is lost.

I'm hoping he's already had talks with Brooklyn and/or Queens. At this stage, I just don't see a group from outside of NY getting a deal done with Wang to move the team. In other words, expect Bettman, a guy who reportedly grew up an Isles fan, to step in the way and try to keep one of the league's historic franchises (I know, I'm probably being bias by saying that, but not many teams in sports have accomplished what they did) in the same market.

[Begbie]

Absolutely great highlight reel save by Cam Ward on Billy Guerin...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jT1l_i5UOXs

A little bit of luck nonetheless.

[Barely Legal]

Holy crap there's a lot of empty seats in Detroit.

[Garyisajoke]

Caps' championship season is back on.

[seeinred]

Holy crap there's a lot of empty seats in Detroit.
Oh come on, it was only 2300 short of a sellout :action-sm

[FAZ8218]

What was going on at the Bell Centre these past few weeks that the Habs just played their first home game?

[Papagolash]

Holy crap this is hilarious, the Sharks suck in the playoffs even in NHL 10!

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2/Papagolash/sjs.jpg

[cleft_pallet]

Jackets as a 2 seed? Nice!

[seeinred]

Nick Lidstrom's 1000th career point. 8th defenseman to do it, 1st European defenseman to do it. 221G - 779A
12sQejrxf-s

[maxeypad]

GO LIDSTROM!!!! 1st ballot HOF f0 sh0.....gonna wear my lidstrom jersey tonight....i bought it before he was captain so it has the A on it before the new uniforms.... :D i was gonna change it to a C then someone on here was like "dude don't do that...."

Wings starting off shaky...we need goaltending.....and yah....GO WINGS!!!!! \m/
the rangers look really good....and Chicago....

[George Costanza]

GO LIDSTROM!!!! 1st ballot HOF f0 sh0.....gonna wear my lidstrom jersey tonight....i bought it before he was captain so it has the A on it before the new uniforms.... :D i was gonna change it to a C then someone on here was like "dude don't do that...."

Wings starting off shaky...we need goaltending.....and yah....GO WINGS!!!!! \m/
the rangers look really good....and Chicago....

Hard to believe Lidstrom has 1000 points. The goaltending is in doubt, wish the Wings would of kept Conklin. He outplayed Osgood in the regular season last year which admittedly was not hard to do. Rangers are off to a great start and Gaborik is wayyyy better than Gomez. I still say Wings beat Hawks in a 7 game series as Huet is shaky.

[Barely Legal]

Feels like forever since the Canucks played their last game. Should be a good (violent) one with Calgary tonight.

It will be interesting to see if Michael Grabner (playing first NHL game) can make any sort of impact with the Canucks. He'd fucking better, that's what I say!

[Barely Legal]

No more Sammuelsson and Bieksa on the point for the PP please! -- fucking abortion of a tandem allowing a shorthanded goal and taking a penalty.

[Barely Legal]

The Islanders are outplaying the Sharks so bad it's not funny. Okay, I hate the Sharks, so it is kinda funny.

[Barely Legal]

LOL, Opie's video of Islanders goal and him terrorizing a Sharks fan.

http://www.twitvid.com/94135


BTW, nice fucking seats.

[Barely Legal]

WOW, look at that crowd in Phoenix.

And I say "crowd" loosely.

[Hoagie]

Penguins win again. This is a special team. This team is driven and they are talented. They make me proud to be a Penguins fan which really makes me love them since I was fan in the days when the best players were Dick Tarnstrom and Rico Fata.

[Barely Legal]

How the fuck does a referee call goalie interference when Backstrom is 2 feet out of his crease?

[iSpeakEloquent]

How the fuck does a referee call goalie interference when Backstrom is 2 feet out of his crease?

idk whey they even have a crease anymore, goalies always come way out to cover up pucks also. They don't enforce it just like they don't enforce the stupid trapezoid

[Garyisajoke]

Penguins win again. This is a special team. This team is driven and they are talented. They make me proud to be a Penguins fan which really makes me love them since I was fan in the days when the best players were Dick Tarnstrom and Rico Fata.

The entire Atlantic Division (save the Islanders) is pretty sick.

[Barely Legal]

I just noticed that XM204 is now simulcasting NHL On the Fly from NHLN. Is this new? It's a huge improvement over that (unlistenable) Ice Cap show they had.

[Fr. Dougal]

I just noticed that XM204 is now simulcasting NHL On the Fly from NHLN. Is this new? It's a huge improvement over that (unlistenable) Ice Cap show they had.

As long as that douchecunt Don LaGrecafaggot isn't doing the show, it's tolerable.

It's even better when it's mildly hot stroke-face, Deb Placey at the mic.

[FAZ8218]

I just noticed that XM204 is now simulcasting NHL On the Fly from NHLN. Is this new? It's a huge improvement over that (unlistenable) Ice Cap show they had.
UGH NO WAY! I woke up the other morning and turned on 204 before O&A came on and stupid On The Fly was on, I don't wanna listen to a fuckin tv show on the radio.
As long as that douchecunt Don LaGrecafaggot isn't doing the show, it's tolerable.

It's even better when it's mildly hot stroke-face, Deb Placey at the mic.
He's talking about On The Fly not NHL Live, and no matter who's hosting it, that show blows cock.

[Fred Told Me]

The entire Atlantic Division (save the Islanders) is pretty sick.

The Devils must have gotten over their symptoms, because they aren't too sick.

[seeinred]

No more Sammuelsson and Bieksa on the point for the PP please! -- fucking abortion of a tandem allowing a shorthanded goal and taking a penalty.
Hahaha, now you know how Wings fans felt for a few years. Not that it's that much better with Williams on the point. Babcock's just GOTTA have that right-handed shot on the 2nd PP unit though. I'd much rather see Ericsson or Stuart play there.

[iSpeakEloquent]

The Devils must have gotten over their symptoms, because they aren't too sick.

u know they will always be there by the end of the season wasting a playoff spot

[Fred Told Me]

I don't dispute that the Devils are still a good Playoff quality hockey team, but I don't consider them an elite team. Or sick in this case.

[Garyisajoke]

I don't dispute that the Devils are still a good Playoff quality hockey team, but I don't consider them an elite team. Or sick in this case.

"Sick" is a relative term.

[iSpeakEloquent]

the division is sick, even if the devils and isles finish 29th and 30th, the top 3 are arguably the 3 best teams in the nhl at the moment

[Garyisajoke]

This is an ugly one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ii-08G6C6wI

[Fr. Dougal]

Is it me or have there been a inordinate amount of those wild bounces so far this year?

It seems like there's crazy gaps in the glass all over the league. Were there this many odd caroms before the "seamless" glass came into play?

[iSpeakEloquent]

wow

[Begbie]

Wow...reminds of this one by Toskala a couple seasons ago...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meFICJYORvA

except, that puck didn't ricochet off the glass.

Ouch.

[Barely Legal]

FIGHT! Rypien vs Stortini.

I'll give that one to Rypien. Nice.

[FAZ8218]

I didn't see it, I just switched to that game.

[Barely Legal]

I didn't see it, I just switched to that game.

I'm sure it will be on hockeyfights.com very soon. Rypien threw a helmet popping punch that looked like my avatar.


Edit: that didn't take long to get on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYjlr6crNh4

[seeinred]

I'm sure it will be on hockeyfights.com very soon. Rypien threw a helmet popping punch that looked like my avatar.


Edit: that didn't take long to get on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYjlr6crNh4
Were you trying too hard not to be a homer or something? CLEAR victory for Rypien IMO. And he better beat Stortini. Nice to see Rypien with some rights, too.

[Barely Legal]

Were you trying too hard not to be a homer or something? CLEAR victory for Rypien IMO. And he better beat Stortini. Nice to see Rypien with some rights, too.

Yeah, doesn't look like Stortini connected on any of his punches. Rypien controlled that fight all the way.

[FAZ8218]

I'm sure it will be on hockeyfights.com very soon. Rypien threw a helmet popping punch that looked like my avatar.


Edit: that didn't take long to get on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYjlr6crNh4
Love Rypien's little duck and punch at 0:14. Good little scrap, there.

[seeinred]

Yeah, doesn't look like Stortini connected on any of his punches. Rypien controlled that fight all the way.
I just wonder how long he can stay undefeated taking on guys that much bigger than him. Hopefully all season, because I love that dude.

No homo, of course.

[Barely Legal]

I just wonder how long he can stay undefeated taking on guys that much bigger than him. Hopefully all season, because I love that dude.

No homo, of course.

Biggest size mismatch this season was Rypien (5'11") vs Gill (6'7")

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AODI-NV9Mq8

I know Gill isn't much of a fighter, but a guy that much bigger shouldn't have been outmuscled the way he was here.

[Barely Legal]

And since I've gone this far, I might as well put on Rypien's other highlight reel fight from this season (Rypien vs Prust)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnIcvu-IuIo

[Barely Legal]

Goddamn. Another 2 seconds and we'd be going into OT.

[seeinred]

Biggest size mismatch this season was Rypien (5'11") vs Gill (6'7")

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AODI-NV9Mq8

I know Gill isn't much of a fighter, but a guy that much bigger shouldn't have been outmuscled the way he was here.
Oh believe me, I check hockeyfights.com daily :icon_mrgr

I just want to see him take on a legit HW. I think he'll win, but he needs a good challenge.

[samurai]

I have posted this in the past, but it's always worth a listen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUyIJ2ogMN4

[FAZ8218]

Very entertaining game in Calgary.

[FAZ8218]

Make sure you check out Freddy Sjostrom's goal from that game as well.

[Hoagie]

Son of a cunt. Sergei Gonchar broke a bone in his hand. They think he'll miss a month. Just when everything was going so well.

[cleft_pallet]

Make sure you check out Freddy Sjostrom's goal from that game as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1FViL4lYDM&feature=player_embedded

Boooo! :(

[George Costanza]

Tampa Bay lightning bonding.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=4581463

Also why are there no games on Sundays this year in the NHL?

[Jimmy's Dignity]

There are games on Sundays...just nothing nationally televised until after the New Year's I think...NBC more or less starts it off with the Winter Classic

[Fred Told Me]

Tampa Bay lightning bonding.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=4581463

Also why are there no games on Sundays this year in the NHL?

No games on Sundays in the NHL this year??? Wow that's strange.

Oh wait this is a Costanza post, so of course there is no truth to this. Move on.

[Barely Legal]

Tampa Bay lightning bonding.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=4581463

Also why are there no games on Sundays this year in the NHL?

This year? How many other Sundays other than last week have no games?

[George Costanza]

This year? How many other Sundays other than last week have no games?

There have been none so far going back 2 weeks. I think maybe Bettman does not want to compete with the NFL on Sundays

[Fred Told Me]

None so far? I guess I was imagining things when Steve Valliquette shut out the Ducks on a Sunday Night at MSG. Although after seeing Valliquette play against the Sharks on Monday, maybe I was imagining that.

The first Saturday of the season every team played. The next night everybody was off. And this past Sunday there were no games. That's it. Not every Sunday this year. It has nothing to do with competing against the NFL. The Rangers always schedule Sunday afternoon games during Football season which I always find mind boggling.

In fact Sunday November 1 Rangers host Boston at 1pm.

[Barely Legal]

Nice comeback for the Canucks in Chicago. Look for Willie Mitchell's hit on Toews on the highlight package tonight. He almost murdered Toews.

[Sack of Chisels]

Opie brings this up a lot, but here's proof that players are getting too big for the NHL sized rink.

average height, in inches.
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/193763/nhlers_by_height_medium.jpg

average weight
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/193767/nhlers_by_weight_medium.jpg

[iSpeakEloquent]

Opie brings this up a lot, but here's proof that players are getting too big for the NHL sized rink.

average height, in inches.
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/193763/nhlers_by_height_medium.jpg

average weight
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/193767/nhlers_by_weight_medium.jpg

i don't think they are too big at all, i don't wanna see guys skating around in open space around people, i like the way it is now, leave the game alone

[cleft_pallet]

Nice comeback for the Canucks in Chicago. Look for Willie Mitchell's hit on Toews on the highlight package tonight. He almost murdered Toews.

Toews got knocked the fuck out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zn4uUVoGzs&feature=player_embedded

[Begbie]

With my lowly Isles winning last night, Toronto remains the only winless team in the league.

It then took me a little while to remember Burke coughed up his 2010 1st and 2nd overall picks to Boston. What a deal this may turn out to be for Boston. And I would take great pleasure in seeing Toronto fans watch the Bruins step up to the podium with their top 3 pick next year.

[Barely Legal]

With my lowly Isles winning last night, Toronto remains the only winless team in the league.

It then took me a little while to remember Burke coughed up his 2010 1st and 2nd overall picks to Boston. What a deal this may turn out to be for Boston. And I would take great pleasure in seeing Toronto fans watch the Bruins step up to the podium with their top 3 pick next year.

And in case you forgot, Leafs' Burke and Wilson are also the dream duo that are running Team USA in the 2010 Olympics. Good fucking luck! :action-sm

[George Costanza]

Opie brings this up a lot, but here's proof that players are getting too big for the NHL sized rink.

average height, in inches.
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/193763/nhlers_by_height_medium.jpg

average weight
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/193767/nhlers_by_weight_medium.jpg

Doesn't that pretty much match the average size and weight gain in this country over the last 90 years. There are a few giant players out there but making the Rink Olympic sized is not necessary.

EDIT
Article about players running goalies. I like Ryan Millers quote about Scott Gomez near the end of the article.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/story/10249376/Goalies-grapple-with-bumping-in-the-crease

[iSpeakEloquent]

And in case you forgot, Leafs' Burke and Wilson are also the dream duo that are running Team USA in the 2010 Olympics. Good fucking luck! :action-sm

yea but i think it is easier to put together an olympic team then an nhl franchise where u need picks, fa signings and salary caps.

[Barely Legal]

Nothing is easy in Brian Burke's world.

[Barely Legal]

For anyone going through weekend pick'em withdrawal, there's a cool "#NHLPick15" contest that NHL.com and Twitter are doing for the upcoming weekend that has all 30 teams in action.

The best part is that the grand prize is round trip airfare, accommodations and a pair of tickets to any NHL game this season (not including Winter Classic, booooo). But you have to get all 15 games correct to be eligible for the grand prize. The tiebreaker is predicting the total number of PIM's for the day.

Yeah it's a longshot, but I'm making my picks and gunning for a Canucks@Canadiens trip.


http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=57836

[Barely Legal]

Jesus, the Caps just scored a goal on the Thrashers net by clearing the puck out of their zone, lol.

[FAZ8218]

For anyone going through weekend pick'em withdrawal, there's a cool "#NHLPick15" contest that NHL.com and Twitter are doing for the upcoming weekend that has all 30 teams in action.

The best part is that the grand prize is round trip airfare, accommodations and a pair of tickets to any NHL game this season (not including Winter Classic, booooo). But you have to get all 15 games correct to be eligible for the grand prize. The tiebreaker is predicting the total number of PIM's for the day.

Yeah it's a longshot, but I'm making my picks and gunning for a Canucks@Canadiens trip.


http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=57836
Holy shit that's amazing.

[Garyisajoke]

Jesus, the Caps just scored a goal on the Thrashers net by clearing the puck out of their zone, lol.

That was a beautiful fluke-y bounce.

The Capitals scored three goals in 1 minute, 28 seconds.

No points for Ovechkin so far, and Semin is home sick or something. It's a positive thing to show a few extra dimensions.

[Barely Legal]

Wow, what a questionable goal in Phoenix to tie the game. How the ref did not blow the whistle when the puck was in Osgood's pads is beyond me.

[LZMF1]

For anyone going through weekend pick'em withdrawal, there's a cool "#NHLPick15" contest that NHL.com and Twitter are doing for the upcoming weekend that has all 30 teams in action.

The best part is that the grand prize is round trip airfare, accommodations and a pair of tickets to any NHL game this season (not including Winter Classic, booooo). But you have to get all 15 games correct to be eligible for the grand prize. The tiebreaker is predicting the total number of PIM's for the day.

Yeah it's a longshot, but I'm making my picks and gunning for a Canucks@Canadiens trip.


http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=57836

i posted my entries on twitter from my blackburrrrrrrrrry! fuck i'd love to win that!

[seeinred]

Wow, what a questionable goal in Phoenix to tie the game. How the ref did not blow the whistle when the puck was in Osgood's pads is beyond me.
My thoughts exactly. But holy fuck that OT goal...

And I said I'd run weekend picks this year again, but no one responded.

[FAZ8218]

My thoughts exactly. But holy fuck that OT goal...

And I said I'd run weekend picks this year again, but no one responded.
I'm in.

[Garyisajoke]

Islanders are playing well tonight.

[Begbie]

Islanders are playing well tonight.

They usually quit playing around the 5 minute mark. They haven't held onto a lead yet this season.

Theodore just had a great save on Okposo!

[Garyisajoke]

They usually quit playing around the 5 minute mark. They haven't held onto a lead yet this season.

Theodore just had a great save on Okposo!

You called it...

Can't believe the Caps are actually turning it on in the third.

Great fucking game. I'll be seeing Islanders/Caps at Verizon next Friday. Should be a better game than I expected.

[FAZ8218]

Holy shit what a great fight. McGrattan-McIntyre.

[Garyisajoke]

Mike Richards destroys David Booth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUNPTXkcxOQ

Dirty hit. Coupled with the fact that he's a captain that is childishly freezing out the media, Mike Richards is a fuck.

[Barely Legal]

Holy shit what a great fight. McGrattan-McIntyre.

Yeah, that was a good one. A marathon fight and they were both gassed at the end. I'd give it to McGrattan, but MacIntyre deserves a lot of respect for taking the early punches and hanging in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfIpOXxZV8k

[Hoagie]

Mike Richards destroys David Booth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUNPTXkcxOQ
Dirty hit. Coupled with the fact that he's a captain that is childishly freezing out the media, Mike Richards is a fuck.Yeah he should have just slew footed him. Then it would have been ok. :action-sm

[FAZ8218]

Yeah he should have just slew footed him. Then it would have been ok. :action-sm
:clap:



I say he gets 4-5 games. The only update on Booth was that he was alert and moving at the hospital. Nothing else so far.

[Garyisajoke]

Yeah he should have just slew footed him. Then it would have been ok. :action-sm

Because no favoritism has ever been showed to Sidney Crosby, right? Despite his headhunting in the Finals, and that bitch slash to the foot after a game. Way to represent, Captain.

And the same for Malkin, who definitely shouldn't have been suspended during the Finals for drawing an instigator penalty in the final minutes of a game. Even though that's the rule. Right?

Ovechkin's penalty was dangerous, but it was incidental, and a result of him playing hard and aggressively positioning himself. I'm sorry he can't post himself in front of the net like that cunt with the Cup in your sig, that he tries to be a two-way player.

Oh, Ovechkin has played one less game than Crosby this season. So far he has:

Six more goals
Three more assists
Six more points
A higher +/-
Eight fewer penalty minutes
One more game-winning goal
26 more shots
20 more hits

And before you bring it up, Ovechkin should have been suspended for his hit on Gonchar. But again, at least it was done trying to make a play.

And the Pens are leading in points, but Pittsburgh's schedule has been soft so far.

You get all that? :action-sm

EDIT: I'm clearly still bitter about Game 7 of last year...

[smurray06]

Because no favoritism has ever been showed to Sidney Crosby, right? Despite his headhunting in the Finals, and that bitch slash to the foot after a game. Way to represent, Captain.

And the same for Malkin, who definitely shouldn't have been suspended during the Finals for drawing an instigator penalty in the final minutes of a game. Even though that's the rule. Right?

Ovechkin's penalty was dangerous, but it was incidental, and a result of him playing hard and aggressively positioning himself. I'm sorry he can't post himself in front of the net like that cunt with the Cup in your sig, that he tries to be a two-way player.

Oh, Ovechkin has played one less game than Crosby this season. So far he has:

Six more goals
Three more assists
Six more points
A higher +/-
Eight fewer penalty minutes
One more game-winning goal
26 more shots
20 more hits

And before you bring it up, Ovechkin should have been suspended for his hit on Gonchar. But again, at least it was done trying to make a play.

And the Pens are leading in points, but Pittsburgh's schedule has been soft so far.


if you were gonna go for crosby not getting the full penalty he should have the slash wasn't much, i would have shown his third man in try to punch a guy in the nuts for some reason, which should have been an auto suspension for 3rd man in. and about malkin good point, but you could simply youtube malkin slew foot rangers. he does it, with a worse kicking motion when the puck was no where near him, and could have injured mara(i think) a lot worse. also shoulda added the slash whoever it was had on semin that broke his hand which resulted in him "choking", because he's not canadian of course. i wouldn't really bring up ovechkin trying to be a two way player, he gets back when there is a breakaway or 2-1, but he really doesn't care too much for defense, buts that fine if you look at his numbers of goals allowed when on the ice in comparison to when he's not on the ice. he also did nothing wrong with his hit on gonchar, gonchar tried to jump out of the way at the last second, if he took the hit he wouldn't have gotten injured, he got scarred. and pitt can't choose who they play, all they can do is win they games they do play, which they have done, but it doesn't mean shit if you can play the first month of the season.

[Hoagie]

Ovechkin has become well known as a dirty player by now. Crosby and Malkin aren't. You really shouldn't whine so much because Ovechkin is getting major star treatment in not getting suspended after yet another dirty play.

[Garyisajoke]

Thanks for the backup and corrections, Smurray.

FYI: No punishment for Richards.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Richards-escapes-NHL-punishment-for-Booth-hit?urn=nhl,198018

[George Costanza]

Because no favoritism has ever been showed to Sidney Crosby, right? Despite his headhunting in the Finals, and that bitch slash to the foot after a game. Way to represent, Captain.

And the same for Malkin, who definitely shouldn't have been suspended during the Finals for drawing an instigator penalty in the final minutes of a game. Even though that's the rule. Right?

Ovechkin's penalty was dangerous, but it was incidental, and a result of him playing hard and aggressively positioning himself. I'm sorry he can't post himself in front of the net like that cunt with the Cup in your sig, that he tries to be a two-way player.

Oh, Ovechkin has played one less game than Crosby this season. So far he has:

Six more goals
Three more assists
Six more points
A higher +/-
Eight fewer penalty minutes
One more game-winning goal
26 more shots
20 more hits

And before you bring it up, Ovechkin should have been suspended for his hit on Gonchar. But again, at least it was done trying to make a play.

And the Pens are leading in points, but Pittsburgh's schedule has been soft so far.

You get all that? :action-sm

EDIT: I'm clearly still bitter about Game 7 of last year...

You make a number of great points. I'm still bitter about game 7 as well.

[Barely Legal]

You make a number of great points. I'm still bitter about game 7 as well.

Let me tell you, the bitterness will never go away.

I'm still bitter about game 7 overtime, Canucks vs Flames from 1989. Fucking Joel Otto.

[Hoagie]

Let me tell you, the bitterness will never go away.

I'm still bitter about game 7 overtime, Canucks vs Flames from 1989. Fucking Joel Otto.
I don't know about that. My bitterness from game 6 in '08 is long gone.

[seeinred]

Ovechkin has become well known as a dirty player by now. Crosby and Malkin aren't. You really shouldn't whine so much because Ovechkin is getting major star treatment in not getting suspended after yet another dirty play.

OV's not getting suspended because of a lack of malicious intent. Pronger's a superstar and he's been suspended a ton of times because you can see that he's trying to hurt people. That slewfoot was the result of the way AO plays: in 6th gear at all times and hitting everything he can. See his hit on Gonchar for a good example of how he'll often keep his leg out on hits, too. Nothing on purpose, it's just the way he plays and I'm sure eventually he will get suspended for something. To call him a dirty player is reaching a little bit though. He's had a lot of borderline plays though for sure.

Thanks for the backup and corrections, Smurray.

FYI: No punishment for Richards.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Richards-escapes-NHL-punishment-for-Booth-hit?urn=nhl,198018

Good, I really don't think he deserved anything. You admire your pass like that, and you're gonna get cranked. And it wasn't a straight head shot, he got a lot of upper body with it.

[Barely Legal]

I don't know about that. My bitterness from game 6 in '08 is long gone.

I guess winning a Stanley Cup since that time will do that.

:icon_conf

[Barely Legal]

Looks like Canada will be wearing GREEN jerseys for this year's World Junior Hockey Tournament for a couple of games because the games will be held in Saskatoon and those Saskatchewans love their Roughrider football.

http://www.saskatoonhomepage.ca/images/stories/sportlpics/jersey.jpg


I think it's gay.

[smurray06]

OV's not getting suspended because of a lack of malicious intent. Pronger's a superstar and he's been suspended a ton of times because you can see that he's trying to hurt people. That slewfoot was the result of the way AO plays: in 6th gear at all times and hitting everything he can. See his hit on Gonchar for a good example of how he'll often keep his leg out on hits, too. Nothing on purpose, it's just the way he plays and I'm sure eventually he will get suspended for something. To call him a dirty player is reaching a little bit though. He's had a lot of borderline plays though for sure.
ovechkin hits a lot, but has horrible form, which i always assumed was just from a lack of really learning how to hit on the open ice in russia. he jumps far too much, and has kinda slew footed some people before, not actually kicked but got his leg behind other guys.

[Begbie]

I don't know about that. My bitterness from game 6 in '08 is long gone.

So I guess the name Dave Volek shouldn't bother you anymore either. :icon_wink

[smurray06]

Nylander is looking good with grand rapids from what i hear, especially considering he hasn't played in the past year basically, he has 5 assists and a shootout goal in 3 games for them. hopefully the caps can get rid of him somehow.

[Garyisajoke]

Nylander is looking good with grand rapids from what i hear, especially considering he hasn't played in the past year basically, he has 5 assists and a shootout goal in 3 games for them. hopefully the caps can get rid of him somehow.

He needs to go. Hershey is loaded with unique talent like Aucoin and Giroux who had something different to the Caps, and Nylander is eating a roster spot.

[maxeypad]

red wings look bad so far.....maybe goaltending should have been a priority in the offseason? i think so.......

HAIL Zetterberg

[smurray06]

He needs to go. Hershey is loaded with unique talent like Aucoin and Giroux who had something different to the Caps, and Nylander is eating a roster spot.

i don't give as much a shit about those ahl'ers, atleast nylander can be second line material, i want alzner and carlson(maybe) moved up and the caps d cut down.

[Barely Legal]

Strangely looking forward to seeing if the Leafs winless streak continues tonight in Anaheim.

[Garyisajoke]

Strangely looking forward to seeing if the Leafs winless streak continues tonight in Anaheim.

The Ducks have the triple deke and knuckle puck. That shit's impossible to overcome.

[Barely Legal]

Long fight with Orr vs Parros. Highlight was the referee coming in to stop the fight and getting shoved back on his ass by Orr.

[Barely Legal]

The Ducks have the triple deke and knuckle puck. That shit's impossible to overcome.

Was that the special move from the Mighty Ducks movie?

[smurray06]

the triple deke was gordon bombays move(i think, twas the coach) and the knuckle puck was the black guys slap shot when he would put the puck on it's side.

[Barely Legal]

Leafs are leading 2-1 which is a pretty rare sight. They haven't had a lead since the 1st game of the season.

Before this game, the Leafs have had a total 6 minutes and 41 seconds with the lead for the entire season.

[Barely Legal]

lol, the Ducks really stink.

[Barely Legal]

Long fight with Orr vs Parros. Highlight was the referee coming in to stop the fight and getting shoved back on his ass by Orr.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlnM7HCIZeQ

"Ohhhhhh! The linesman goes down!!!"

[smurray06]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PW16dV1t3wU&feature=player_embedded
what a save, fuck canada.

[Begbie]

The story of former linesman, Pat Dapuzzo... (http://nhl.fanhouse.com/2009/10/27/pat-dapuzzo-reveals-anguish-depression-after-skate-severs-his-face/)

It's a bit long, so I'll only post the first part of it.


For First Time, Dapuzzo Reveals Anguish, Depression After Skate Severs His Face
by Christopher Botta

I don't care how tough you are. I used to think I was pretty tough, that there wasn't anything I could not handle. I was a kid from New Jersey who became an on-ice official in the National Hockey League. Nothing could stop me from chasing my dreams. Well, what I've learned over the last year and a half is that there is always something that can bring you to your knees.

I haven't talked much with anyone about this yet. But the good news is, slowly but surely, I'm starting to feel a little better. I finally see some light at the end of the tunnel. I'm ready to talk about what happened because now I feel that maybe I can help some people. My story is far from over, but here's what I've got so far.

When Steve Downie was checked by Fedor Tyutin and we became entangled along the boards, Downie's leg whipped around and his skate blade cut my nose off. There was a hole in my face. I was on all fours and was bleeding badly. I thought I had lost my eye. Other than that, I don't remember much about the immediate impact of the skate hitting my face. I was later diagnosed with a concussion from the collision, after they sent me to a trauma center in Camden, New Jersey.

When I saw three fights had simultaneously broken out between the Rangers and the Flyers after Tyutin hit Downie, I tried to break them up. I guess I was delusional, but I'm old-school -- always was and always will be. I know I was a mess, but my job was to monitor those altercations and end them. If you watch the tape, I actually shove (referee) Kelly Sutherland aside so I can try and do my job. I was thinking that if my mentor (former NHL linesman and supervisor) John D'Amico was looking down from heaven, he would have kicked my butt for not taking care of business.

Jim Ramsey, the Rangers trainer, came on the ice and got me. He put a towel over my eyes. I could not see a thing from all the blood. 'Rammer' brought me to the Flyers' trainers. Their doctors sewed my nose back on. It took more than 40 stitches. The doctors were alarmed because my left eye was drooping. They told me I could not go back on the ice because I could die. My face was fractured. That was when I realized this was more than just a brutal cut.

After 24 years, my career as an NHL linesman was over in an instant. The damage to my face was worse than just my nose being severed.

There were 10 fractures in my face. My right cheekbone was shattered. Between the accident and all the surgeries I've had, I lost all of my teeth. I lost my sense of smell. I developed sleep apnea. I dealt with terrible earaches caused by bone fragments in my right ear.

I still suffer from post-concussion syndrome. There were times in the first year after the accident when I couldn't get out of bed for weeks.

I have almost no sense of taste. My wife Lisa would make me my favorite -- her thin crust pizza. So I could taste it better, I kept sprinkling cracked pepper on it. I still couldn't taste a thing, so I'd put on more and more with each bite. By the time I was done, I pretty much went through the whole bottle. Worse, I was sweating like I'd just run a marathon. My wife and I decided I shouldn't do that again.

I couldn't work. I loved my job as an NHL linesman so much, and now it was gone. And never mind that -- there wasn't any job I could do. Whenever my heart rate would rise a little, the headaches would be debilitating. I couldn't even work out.

I was depressed. I couldn't function like anything close to a normal adult of 50 years of age. We have three boys, great kids now in seventh, eighth and ninth grades. They would ask me, "Dad, what's wrong? Why can't you come out with us?" Not being able to do anything, not being able to explain to your kids what you're feeling, is probably the toughest time I had to go through.

And here's the video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPEOPBrXOpk

I totally forgot about this when it happened...nor do I remember hearing how serious it was.

[Barely Legal]

The story of former linesman, Pat Dapuzzo... (http://nhl.fanhouse.com/2009/10/27/pat-dapuzzo-reveals-anguish-depression-after-skate-severs-his-face/)

It's a bit long, so I'll only post the first part of it.



And here's the video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPEOPBrXOpk

I totally forgot about this when it happened...nor do I remember hearing how serious it was.


Jesus, this story is going to give me nightmares. :icon_eek:

[George Costanza]

Did this happen last year? Don't remember this.
I'm surprised things like this don't happen more often. He did a good job of not impeding the play, then Downie's skate came around Ouch. Be cool if they could come up with a skate blade that doesn't slice through your skin and still works on the ice.


Decent Article about the high number of star players out with injuries this early in the season. They missed Detroit, who should be on the list with Datsyuk slightly hurt and Franzen out til March at the earliest.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/story?columnist=burnside_scott&id=4600158

[Begbie]

Best part...

I hear a lot of "Poor Pat ... Poor Pat." C'mon folks, do not give me your sympathy. I graduated high school in New Jersey in 1976 and six years later became a linesman in the NHL. I worked almost 2,000 games. I've met almost every legend in hockey, worked a lot of the biggest games. I've met U.S. presidents and was invited to the White House. So many people dream of the life I've led.

"Poor Pat." Give me a freakin' break.

I would agree to get kicked in the face once a month if I could get back on the ice in the National Hockey League.

He is one tough SOB. He also speaks very highly of Bettman and the heads of the NHL, the NHLPA and the officials for what they've done for him.

[Barely Legal]

Best part...



He is one tough SOB. He also speaks very highly of Bettman and the heads of the NHL, the NHLPA and the officials for what they've done for him.

I agree. That was the best part of the article. It was also a much needed part of the article. Up to that point, the story was so depressing I was getting ready to slit my wrists.

[Barely Legal]

Really looking forward to the Detroit/Vancouver matchup tonight.

Hoping that Sammuelsson gets a hat trick on Osbad!

[seeinred]

Really looking forward to the Detroit/Vancouver matchup tonight.

Hoping that Sammuelsson gets a hat trick on Osbad!
Hey, I get it!

I hope Sammy botches a pass on the point on the PP that leads to a SHG.

Also, May is going to end Rypien's streak :action-sm.

[Barely Legal]

Rypien's been out with a groin injury the past few games. Probably won't see any ice time until the Canucks fly down to LA/Anaheim.

[Barely Legal]

30 seconds in! Nice one Henrik!

[George Costanza]

Really looking forward to the Detroit/Vancouver matchup tonight.

Hoping that Sammuelsson gets a hat trick on Osbad!


Osbad is Passe.
Sammy is way better than he's given credit for. Seeinred is brainwashed by the letsgowings forums.:action-sm

Wow I miss Conklin.

[seeinred]

Osbad is Passe.
Sammy is way better than he's given credit for. Seeinred is brainwashed by the letsgowings forums.:action-sm

Wow I miss Conklin.
Nah I'm disappointed he's gone, but I really hated him on the point.

And I missed the 1st period, had to watch Sons of Anarchy. I take it the 1st 2 goals were bad eh?

[Barely Legal]

Ugh, that was an awkward spill into the boards for Ryan Johnson.

[George Costanza]

Nah I'm disappointed he's gone, but I really hated him on the point.

And I missed the 1st period, had to watch Sons of Anarchy. I take it the 1st 2 goals were bad eh?

Yeah 2 weak ones. Keep hearing about that show gonna check it out.

[seeinred]

I literally shouted and cringed when that happened. Hope he's OK, but I'd be surprised at anything less than a separated shoulder.

[seeinred]

Decent little scrap. I call it a draw upon 1st viewing.

[George Costanza]

Like how May came to the Vancouver players aid when he went down, really classy.

[Barely Legal]

Decent little scrap. I call it a draw upon 1st viewing.

Yeah, draw sounds about right for that tussle.

[Barely Legal]

Hmmmm, Colorado is one period away from becoming the #1 team in the league.

[seeinred]

Great goal by Datsyuk.

[Barely Legal]

Henrik x 2! Had to put one away on that 5-on-3

[seeinred]

Shirokov is a diving faggot. I hate when the far ref calls the penalties. Great game so far though. Howard is playing exceptionally well, and I love the dangles Kesler showed on that PP.

[Barely Legal]

I blame Babcock for not leaving Osgood in for the whole game.

[seeinred]

I blame Babcock for not leaving Osgood in for the whole game.
Haha. I guess he's just decided it's OK to take the regular season off since he knows he can turn it on in the playoffs somehow.

I always love playing Vancouver. They're one of 2 other teams where I actually like pretty much every guy on the team.

[Barely Legal]

Oooof. Vancouver is reporting that Luongo will be out indefinitely with a hairline fractured rib.

Sucks.

[seeinred]

Oooof. Vancouver is reporting that Luongo will be out indefinitely with a hairline fractured rib.

Sucks.
I blame Shane O'Brien.

[Hoagie]

Sorry Montreal fans. The Penguins had a couple days off and, coming off their second loss of the season, someone had to pay.

[samurai]

I blame Shane O'Brien.

Funny, he doesn't look Jewish.

[smurray06]

malkin out 2-3 weeks, thats 4 russians injured this year already.

[smurray06]

ovechkin with 2 goals already in the first against the thrashers, who are missing kovy and antropov.

[FAZ8218]

Let's go Ovie, one more!


EDIT: By the way, I'd love to congratulate the fans in Atlanta and Tampa for showing up to their respective arenas tonight... fuckin pathetic. Get hockey into real markets, please.

[George Costanza]

Let's go Ovie, one more!


EDIT: By the way, I'd love to congratulate the fans in Atlanta and Tampa for showing up to their respective arenas tonight... fuckin pathetic. Get hockey into real markets, please.

It'd be nice to see players of Kovalchuk's caliber on a big market team. He has the most goals since 2001-2002. I don't see him turning around Atlanta like Ovechkin did in DC.

[smurray06]

It'd be nice to see players of Kovalchuk's caliber on a big market team. He has the most goals since 2001-2002. I don't see him turning around Atlanta like Ovechkin did in DC.
ovechkin didn't turn around dc, his first 2 1/2 years no one showed, it was a combination of them winning, and the wizards and redskins going to shit. the caps played last week in atlanta and the attendance didn't look too bad, but jesus they showed the people walking up the aisles and there rows with no one in them.

[Barely Legal]

Awesome one-timer goal Samuelsson!

[Fuck Crosby]

Sorry Montreal fans. The Penguins had a couple days off and, coming off their second loss of the season, someone had to pay.

wasn't even a game. got home from work and it was already 3-0.

[Barely Legal]

Canucks seriously stole a win out of LA tonight and they did it by shutting down the Kopitar line with 3 D-men on the ice whenever Kopitar's line was on.

I don't think I've seen that before.

[seeinred]

Hopefully people can get in on this before the games start:

Weekend Picks - Week 5

Friday:

NY Islanders @ Washington
Pittsburgh @ Columbus
Toronto @ Buffalo
NY Rangers @ Minnesota
Montreal @ Chicago
Florida @ Dallas
Vancouver @ Anaheim
Colorado @ San Jose

Saturday:

Edmonton @ Boston
Carolina @ Philadelphia
Atlanta @ Ottawa
New Jersey @ Tampa Bay
Toronto @ Montreal
Buffalo @ NY Islanders
Minnesota @ Pittsburgh
Florida @ St Louis
Dallas @ Nashville
Anaheim @ Phoenix
Detroit @ Calgary

Sunday:

Boston @ NY Rangers
San Jose @ Carolina
Columbus @ Washington
Colorado @ Vancouver

[seeinred]

Friday:

NY Islanders @ Washington
Pittsburgh @ Columbus
Toronto @ Buffalo
NY Rangers @ Minnesota
Montreal @ Chicago
Florida @ Dallas
Vancouver @ Anaheim
Colorado @ San Jose

Saturday:

Edmonton @ Boston
Carolina @ Philadelphia
Atlanta @ Ottawa
New Jersey @ Tampa Bay
Toronto @ Montreal
Buffalo @ NY Islanders
Minnesota @ Pittsburgh
Florida @ St Louis
Dallas @ Nashville
Anaheim @ Phoenix
Detroit @ Calgary

Sunday:

Boston @ NY Rangers
San Jose @ Carolina
Columbus @ Washington
Colorado @ Vancouver

[smurray06]

Friday:

NY Islanders @ Washington
Pittsburgh @ Columbus
Toronto @ Buffalo
NY Rangers @ Minnesota
Montreal @ Chicago
Florida @ Dallas
Vancouver @ Anaheim
Colorado @ San Jose

Saturday:

Edmonton @ Boston
Carolina @ Philadelphia
Atlanta @ Ottawa
New Jersey @ Tampa Bay
Toronto @ Montreal
Buffalo @ NY Islanders
Minnesota @ Pittsburgh
Florida @ St Louis
Dallas @ Nashville
Anaheim @ Phoenix
Detroit @ Calgary

Sunday:

Boston @ NY Rangers
San Jose @ Carolina
Columbus @ Washington
Colorado @ Vancouver
i don't know who's good this year.

[smurray06]

filppula out 6-8 weeks with a broken wrist
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=4607925
sucks for Detroit.

[iSpeakEloquent]

Weekend Picks - Week 5

Friday:

NY Islanders @ Washington
Pittsburgh @ Columbus
Toronto @ Buffalo
NY Rangers @ Minnesota
Montreal @ Chicago
Florida @ Dallas
Vancouver @ Anaheim
Colorado @ San Jose

Saturday:

Edmonton @ Boston
Carolina @ Philadelphia
Atlanta @ Ottawa
New Jersey @ Tampa Bay
Toronto @ Montreal
Buffalo @ NY Islanders
Minnesota @ Pittsburgh
Florida @ St Louis
Dallas @ Nashville
Anaheim @ Phoenix
Detroit @ Calgary

Sunday:

Boston @ NY Rangers
San Jose @ Carolina
Columbus @ Washington
Colorado @ Vancouver[/QUOTE]

[George Costanza]

filppula out 6-8 weeks with a broken wrist
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=4607925
sucks for Detroit.


Just saw this. Good to get all the losses out of the way this season. I predicted the Wings to have a down year after losing a great backup goalie and 3 good forwards.

Malkin's out for a few weeks too.
Lots of injuries in the NHL this year.

Weekend Picks - Week 5
Friday:

NY Islanders @ Washington
Pittsburgh @ Columbus
Toronto @ Buffalo
NY Rangers @ Minnesota
Montreal @ Chicago
Florida @ Dallas
Vancouver @ Anaheim
Colorado @ San Jose

Saturday:

Edmonton @ Boston
Carolina @ Philadelphia
Atlanta @ Ottawa
New Jersey @ Tampa Bay
Toronto @ Montreal
Buffalo @ NY Islanders
Minnesota @ Pittsburgh
Florida @ St Louis
Dallas @ Nashville
Anaheim @ Phoenix
Detroit @ Calgary

Sunday:

Boston @ NY Rangers
San Jose @ Carolina
Columbus @ Washington
Colorado @ Vancouver

[FAZ8218]

A little late.
Weekend Picks - Week 5

Friday:

NY Islanders @ Washington
Pittsburgh @ Columbus
Toronto @ Buffalo
NY Rangers @ Minnesota
Montreal @ Chicago
Florida @ Dallas
Vancouver @ Anaheim
Colorado @ San Jose

Saturday:

Edmonton @ Boston
Carolina @ Philadelphia
Atlanta @ Ottawa
New Jersey @ Tampa Bay
Toronto @ Montreal
Buffalo @ NY Islanders
Minnesota @ Pittsburgh
Florida @ St Louis
Dallas @ Nashville
Anaheim @ Phoenix
Detroit @ Calgary

Sunday:

Boston @ NY Rangers
San Jose @ Carolina
Columbus @ Washington
Colorado @ Vancouver

[Begbie]

Isles-Caps never disappoint. Helluva game as was the last one. Lots of chances at both ends of the ice...great goaltending...and alot of energy. Isles tied a record of 7 overtime games (out of 12) before Nov 1st and got the win tonight off a goal from Streit. But the whole game was the kind of hockey I love to watch.

[FAZ8218]

Isles-Caps never disappoint. Helluva game as was the last one. Lots of chances at both ends of the ice...great goaltending...and alot of energy. Isles tied a record of 7 overtime games (out of 12) before Nov 1st and got the win tonight off a goal from Streit. But the whole game was the kind of hockey I love to watch.
If that's the case, this Florida-Dallas game is for you. Great game 5-5 headed in to OT. Refs have been lenient to say the least. James Neal = one of the best players in the league right now.

[smurray06]

Isles-Caps never disappoint. Helluva game as was the last one. Lots of chances at both ends of the ice...great goaltending...and alot of energy. Isles tied a record of 7 overtime games (out of 12) before Nov 1st and got the win tonight off a goal from Streit. But the whole game was the kind of hockey I love to watch.

was a good game, if ovechkin would have shot on those two 2on1's in the first instead of trying to pass to semin, i don't know if he would have scored, but it would have resulted better then passing to the defenders stick both times.

[FAZ8218]

was a good game, if ovechkin would have shot on those two 2on1's in the first instead of trying to pass to semin, i don't know if he would have scored, but it would have resulted better then passing to the defenders stick both times.
Agreed. I think he's trying to hard to pretend to be "Mr. Sportsmanship". Just bury goals so I can win my fantasy league. He could have easily had a hat trick vs. the Thrashers too.

[smurray06]

Agreed. I think he's trying to hard to pretend to be "Mr. Sportsmanship". Just bury goals so I can win my fantasy league. He could have easily had a hat trick vs. the Thrashers too.

it's not that he wants assists as much as being on the same line as semin, him and semin both try to set each other up way too much. when they are on and aggressive, it's the best line in the league, but half the time they are afraid to shoot and try to get too cute.

[Fr. Dougal]

Missed tonight's but here's mine for Today and tomorrow...


Weekend Picks - Week 5

Saturday:

Edmonton @ Boston
Carolina @ Philadelphia
Atlanta @ Ottawa
New Jersey @ Tampa Bay
Toronto @ Montreal
Buffalo @ NY Islanders
Minnesota @ Pittsburgh
Florida @ St Louis
Dallas @ Nashville
Anaheim @ Phoenix
Detroit @ Calgary

Sunday:

Boston @ NY Rangers
San Jose @ Carolina
Columbus @ Washington
Colorado @ Vancouver

[samurai]

And the number one reason "You know you have a concussion when....."
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/6170/photo1y.jpg
Toews & Burish. I'm not sure who's dumb and who's dumber.

[Garyisajoke]

Isles-Caps never disappoint. Helluva game as was the last one. Lots of chances at both ends of the ice...great goaltending...and alot of energy. Isles tied a record of 7 overtime games (out of 12) before Nov 1st and got the win tonight off a goal from Streit. But the whole game was the kind of hockey I love to watch.

Pssst....

The Isles/Caps game last night disappointed me....

Islanders are much better than their record suggests, and they're a very hard working team. Tip of my cap to them, even though I had to watch the win live.

Caps refuse to hit anyone, even last night when the Isles were getting aggressive with Ovechkin and Flash. I'd push them around too - clearly, no one on the Caps will do anything about it. And Green's botched pass killed us.

[Begbie]

Pssst....

The Isles/Caps game last night disappointed me....

Islanders are much better than their record suggests, and they're a very hard working team. Tip of my cap to them, even though I had to watch the win live.

Caps refuse to hit anyone, even last night when the Isles were getting aggressive with Ovechkin and Flash. I'd push them around too - clearly, no one on the Caps will do anything about it. And Green's botched pass killed us.

I know...it would bother a fan of the losing team...of course. But both teams seem to take some big time risks that made it exciting. Green's pass did hurt you guys though.

The Isles have played like that in at least 10 of their 12 games. The only problem is, it's not for the whole 60 minutes. They'll be dominant like that for 50 minutes, then clearly just run out of gas in the middle of the third. I believe it was Green who commented after the last game that he noticed the Isles were extremely tired in the third and he contributed that to their style of play...sending two guys in to forecheck and putting pressure on the opposition's defense. It simply means their forwards have got to skate and skate hard. By the time the third period rolls around, they're almost lethargic.

[ginaf20697]

Whoever designed these Habs jerseys should be SHOT!

[Barely Legal]

Whoever designed these Habs jerseys should be SHOT!

Considering the era, he's probably already dead. ;)

But while these uni's are horrendous, the old school gloves are pretty sweet.

[ginaf20697]

They should exhume him and shoot him again just to make sure.

[smurray06]

i love the jerseys.

[smurray06]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-pPGckyDLE&feature=player_embedded
crosby fight from tonight.

[FAZ8218]

With the Islanders latest win tonight, all the teams in the Atlantic Division are in the top 7 of the Eastern Conference.

[Begbie]

With the Islanders latest win tonight, all the teams in the Atlantic Division are in the top 7 of the Eastern Conference.

Unreal. I still don't see the Isles staying in the top 8...but with the way they've been playing and if they stay healthy...they might be able to remain there for a little while. Put it this way, I'm happy with the way they've played over the past 8 games (5-1-2), I just don't think they've got what it takes to keep it together for a full 82 games.

They seemed to have switched places with the Canes though. I was just listening to the radio down here...and GM Jim Rutherford was hoping he could wait a little longer before even considering shaking up his team, if needed it. But he admits that his team needs it and said he has already been on the phone with a few teams. So I would certainly expect the Canes to be one of the first to be doing something to salvage their season. And I guess they'd be willing to part with anyone except for Staal, Ward, and maybe Pitkanen. I went to one of their games, and they are fuckin embarrassing.

[smurray06]

wtf happened to the canes? made it to the finals(eastern conference) get swept in 4, i assumed they were just outa gas, but have looked horrid this year.

[FAZ8218]

Unreal. I still don't see the Isles staying in the top 8...but with the way they've been playing and if they stay healthy...they might be able to remain there for a little while. Put it this way, I'm happy with the way they've played over the past 8 games (5-1-2), I just don't think they've got what it takes to keep it together for a full 82 games.
Instead, I think they do. I think Roloson can carry them pretty far. You have guys like Streit, Witt, and Weight with experience, and then Tavares, Okposo, and Mouslen are just awesome. Maybe Josh Bailey will even wake up. This team can surprise a few people... maybe even put some asses in the seats.

Btw, I'm voting against Kate Murray tomorrow, and I don't even care who she is running against and what party they belong to. Fuckin cunt.

They seemed to have switched places with the Canes though. I was just listening to the radio down here...and GM Jim Rutherford was hoping he could wait a little longer before even considering shaking up his team, if needed it. But he admits that his team needs it and said he has already been on the phone with a few teams. So I would certainly expect the Canes to be one of the first to be doing something to salvage their season. And I guess they'd be willing to part with anyone except for Staal, Ward, and maybe Pitkanen. I went to one of their games, and they are fuckin embarrassing.
This team is such a fuckin mystery. Especially for us fantasy fanatics. Carolina is always a team I try to stay away from, I'm glad I did this time around. They really are dismal.

[Garyisajoke]

Ovechkin is "week-to-week" with an "upper body strain." That's a nice way of saying he's out for a month.

For this not to fuck up any semblance of momentum the Caps have, Semin has to step up as the no. 1 left winger. He's talented as hell, but he thinks he's a Globetrotter on ice - and it fucks the team up sometimes. I'd move the veteran Morrison to top line center, because he's been really strong all season and Backstrom typically indulges Semin. I'd put Brooks Laich on the other side.

Problem solved... :gh::gh:

Unreal. I still don't see the Isles staying in the top 8...but with the way they've been playing and if they stay healthy...they might be able to remain there for a little while. Put it this way, I'm happy with the way they've played over the past 8 games (5-1-2), I just don't think they've got what it takes to keep it together for a full 82 games.

I've been impressed with the Islanders both games I've seen them play. They play really hard for a majority of the game. They're young and scrappy, but that's the reason they blow games late. When they really put it together (and it probably won't be this season), they're going to be a team to watch.

[Begbie]

Instead, I think they do. I think Roloson can carry them pretty far. You have guys like Streit, Witt, and Weight with experience, and then Tavares, Okposo, and Mouslen are just awesome. Maybe Josh Bailey will even wake up. This team can surprise a few people... maybe even put some asses in the seats.

You might be right. I gotta admit, I did not expect to see a Matt Moulson or a Jeff Tambellini at a near point per game pace. I didn't even know who Moulson was prior to July. And I don't think anyone expected their D to be any good, but they've been surprisingly good once they got comfortable (especially Sutton). It would be a pleasant surprise to see them battling it out for a 6th-8th spot in the East...but I'll still stick with my 10th-12th prediction in the East. If the stories about DiPietro coming back healthy are true, and he's able to share duties with Roloson for the tail end of the season, I think they're a team to watch down the stretch.

Btw, I'm voting against Kate Murray tomorrow, and I don't even care who she is running against and what party they belong to. Fuckin cunt.

Good. Botta says her re-election bid is pretty much a lock...but I hope the voters at least send a message. It's also believed that the cunt is just waiting til after the election to officially kill the project unless it's scaled down to just essentially a renovation of the facility. If and when it's officially dead, Nassau legislators will likely not vote on the proposed Lighthouse lease and Wang can break the current lease at any time without penalty and move the team next season if he wanted to (and if he had anywhere to go...any room in MSG for a couple seasons? ;)) I'm passed the whole Nassau County mess though and I hope the team lands in Queens...it'd be easier for me to go to games when I visit family in Jersey. Granted, I'd hate seeing Nassau County residents get left with a steaming pile of shit in Uniondale with no tenants and the likelihood of major performers avoiding the facility for the brand new Barclays or the Queens' arena...but, the politicians should pay dearly when they lose revenue from the Coliseum.


This team is such a fuckin mystery. Especially for us fantasy fanatics. Carolina is always a team I try to stay away from, I'm glad I did this time around. They really are dismal.

They are a team that I've rooted for while my Isles are stuck in the shitter. And yeah, they are odd because you almost don't know where they're headed. I think bringing Maurice back was a mistake and they actually should've held onto Laviolette. Or bring a Teddy Nolan in. They're just wildly inconsistent, especially Ward who luckily seems to stand out when the games count (minus of course the Pittsburgh sweep). This is a guy that started his career with 6 straight playoff series victories. He's good, just not consistently. And Staal has been horrid so far this season.

[Garyisajoke]

With the Islanders latest win tonight, all the teams in the Atlantic Division are in the top 7 of the Eastern Conference.

I'd reiterate that the Atlantic Division is pretty sick, but I don't want to be shouted down again. I said that early on, too.

[George Costanza]

Wings beat bruins 2-0, Osgood with the shutout. The Wings playing with a bunch of role players killed the most overrated team in the east.

Bruins have the cheapest owners in hockey since Rockey Wirtz died. No surprise they're owner was one of big supporters of the cap.

[ginaf20697]

I told everyone up here to enjoy it while they could because as soon as they came up for raises they'd be gone. Even I didn't think it would be THIS soon.

[Barely Legal]

Canucks' highest paid defenceman, Bieksa, will be playing as a RW tonight against the Rangers. wtf?

[FAZ8218]

Oooo hi, BL.

[Barely Legal]

This should be an interesting 3rd period.

[smurray06]

Ovechkin is "week-to-week" with an "upper body strain." That's a nice way of saying he's out for a month.

For this not to fuck up any semblance of momentum the Caps have, Semin has to step up as the no. 1 left winger. He's talented as hell, but he thinks he's a Globetrotter on ice - and it fucks the team up sometimes. I'd move the veteran Morrison to top line center, because he's been really strong all season and Backstrom typically indulges Semin. I'd put Brooks Laich on the other side.

Problem solved... :gh::gh:



I've been impressed with the Islanders both games I've seen them play. They play really hard for a majority of the game. They're young and scrappy, but that's the reason they blow games late. When they really put it together (and it probably won't be this season), they're going to be a team to watch.

about ovie, he said he could play this weekend, bruce said 2 weeks. if this was the playoffs or important he'd miss 1 game at most. i like semin with backstom myself, but only as long as semin is willing to shoot like he did at teh start of last season. i personally think with ovechkin out, he's willing to shoot and not pass first.

about the isles, they looked good against the caps this year, but don't forget they didn't look bad against the caps last year either. not saying i don't like the makeup of the isles, cause i do, but the caps seem to see a team with a lesser record, take a lead and coast to ot win/loss. if they had beaten losing teams like boston did last year, they would have had the best record by 5 points or so last year, they play good against the better teams, and play down to their opponents.

[Barely Legal]

This should be an interesting 3rd period.

Wow, didn't expect to see 10 Rangers vs 7 Canucks in an on-ice brawl.

Love Bieksa in these situations.

[Barely Legal]

Kesler to Rypien! Nice setup & goal!

[Barely Legal]

It wasn't pretty, but I'll take the "W" for the Canucks.

[maxeypad]

Go Wings!
we actually shut someone out!!!!

[Hoagie]

ehHS7ImQcVA

[Begbie]

Fuckin scary hit last week in the OHL. Michael Liambas on Ben Fanelli.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPj-kCp1rGI

I've heard Liambas being a guy much like Ryan Hollweg...a guy that had a knack for checking guys who were in vulnerable positions and hitting them from behind. Fanelli was in critical condition and had skull and facial fractures.

With that in mind, the OHL handed down a season long suspension to Liambas. He's apparently a repeat offender.

[George Costanza]

Top ten overpaid players list by Spector. Kill a few minutes if bored.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/pgStory?contentId=10322178#sport=NHL&photo=10323098

Go Wings
Good match tonight vs the Sharks who just loss Blake to injury.

[Papagolash]

Top ten overpaid players list by Spector. Kill a few minutes if bored.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/pgStory?contentId=10322178#sport=NHL&photo=10323098

Go Wings
Good match tonight vs the Sharks who just loss Blake to injury.


Including Gabby on that list was stupid. Otherwise it's pretty solid.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Top ten overpaid players list by Spector. Kill a few minutes if bored.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/pgStory?contentId=10322178#sport=NHL&photo=10323098

Ugh...way to go Sather. Gaborik, Drury, Gomez, & Wade Redden. 40% of the most overpaid players are all from contracts that he gave them :arrrh: :arrrh:

[George Costanza]

Including Gabby on that list was stupid. Otherwise it's pretty solid.

I thought the same thing.

Spector seems to have something against Gaborik, written a few other articles about him. Right now almost every teams number 1 star is injured, seemed a bit premature to call Gaborik a bust.

[George Costanza]

Yahoo has a few games a week heres SharksvsWings.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/hockeynight/2009110505;_ylt=Aj1o5A.t1mrk5_QVieKQBsZ7vLYF

[iSpeakEloquent]

Top ten overpaid players list by Spector. Kill a few minutes if bored.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/pgStory?contentId=10322178#sport=NHL&photo=10323098

Go Wings
Good match tonight vs the Sharks who just loss Blake to injury.

Ugh...way to go Sather. Gaborik, Drury, Gomez, & Wade Redden. 40% of the most overpaid players are all from contracts that he gave them :arrrh: :arrrh:

I thought the same thing.

Spector seems to have something against Gaborik, written a few other articles about him. Right now almost every teams number 1 star is injured, seemed a bit premature to call Gaborik a bust.

he couldn't be anything farther from a bust, he is at the top of the league in goals and has carried the team offensively except for 2 games that he missed and im pretty sure he has a point in every game he has played but 2 or 3. The others are pretty accurate, some aren't bad players but the contracts are insane, vanek over 7? staal is great but 8+?

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Oh I wasn't saying that Gabby was a bad one, I'm ecstatic with how he's playing...I just don't like how Sather always throws money around

[smurray06]

nylander should be up there, 5.4 million to be a scratch for the past year every night.

[seeinred]

Weekend Picks - Week 5 Results

smurray06 12
iSpeakEloquent 10
George Costanza 10
seeinred 10
FAZ 9
Fr. Dougal 7

smurray was the only one to pick the Islanders and Panthers correctly on Friday, as well as the Jackets on Sunday. Faz was the only one to get the Ducks on Friday, I was the only one to get the Panthers and Wings on Saturday, and iSpeakEloquent was the only one to get Nashville right on Saturday. Fascinating, I know.

[seeinred]

Weekend Picks - Week 6

Friday:

NY Islanders @ New Jersey
Toronto @ Carolina
Philadelphia @ Buffalo
Washington @ Florida
Vancouver @ Dallas
Chicago @ Colorado

Saturday:

Nashville @ Los Angeles
Buffalo @ Boston
Detroit @ Toronto
Tampa Bay @ Montreal
New Jersey @ Ottawa
Atlanta @ NY Islanders
St Louis @ Philadelphia
Florida @ Washington
Carolina @ Columbus
Dallas @ Minnesota
NY Rangers @ Calgary
Phoenix @ Anaheim
Pittsburgh @ San Jose

Sunday:

St Louis @ Atlanta
Edmonton @ Colorado

[seeinred]

Friday:

NY Islanders @ New Jersey
Toronto @ Carolina
Philadelphia @ Buffalo
Washington @ Florida
Vancouver @ Dallas
Chicago @ Colorado

Saturday:

Nashville @ Los Angeles
Buffalo @ Boston
Detroit @ Toronto
Tampa Bay @ Montreal
New Jersey @ Ottawa
Atlanta @ NY Islanders
St Louis @ Philadelphia
Florida @ Washington
Carolina @ Columbus
Dallas @ Minnesota
NY Rangers @ Calgary
Phoenix @ Anaheim
Pittsburgh @ San Jose

Sunday:

St Louis @ Atlanta
Edmonton @ Colorado

[Owenay]

Begbie, you goin' DOWN tonight!

[George Costanza]

Friday:

NY Islanders @ New Jersey
Toronto @ Carolina
Philadelphia @ Buffalo
Washington @ Florida
Vancouver @ Dallas
Chicago @ Colorado

Saturday:

Nashville @ Los Angeles
Buffalo @ Boston
Detroit @ Toronto
Tampa Bay @ Montreal
New Jersey @ Ottawa
Atlanta @ NY Islanders
St Louis @ Philadelphia
Florida @ Washington
Carolina @ Columbus
Dallas @ Minnesota
NY Rangers @ Calgary
Phoenix @ Anaheim
Pittsburgh @ San Jose

Sunday:

St Louis @ Atlanta
Edmonton @ Colorado

[samurai]

I know I'm horning in, but I was bored.

Weekend Picks - Week 6

Friday:

NY Islanders @ New Jersey
Toronto @ Carolina
Philadelphia @ Buffalo
Washington @ Florida
Vancouver @ Dallas
Chicago @ Colorado

Saturday:

Nashville @ Los Angeles
Buffalo @ Boston
Detroit @ Toronto
Tampa Bay @ Montreal
New Jersey @ Ottawa
Atlanta @ NY Islanders
St Louis @ Philadelphia
Florida @ Washington
Carolina @ Columbus
Dallas @ Minnesota
NY Rangers @ Calgary
Phoenix @ Anaheim
Pittsburgh @ San Jose

Sunday:

St Louis @ Atlanta
Edmonton @ Colorado

[smurray06]

Friday:

NY Islanders @ New Jersey
Toronto @ Carolina
Philadelphia @ Buffalo
Washington @ Florida
Vancouver @ Dallas
Chicago @ Colorado

Saturday:

Nashville @ Los Angeles
Buffalo @ Boston
Detroit @ Toronto
Tampa Bay @ Montreal
New Jersey @ Ottawa
Atlanta @ NY Islanders
St Louis @ Philadelphia
Florida @ Washington
Carolina @ Columbus
Dallas @ Minnesota
NY Rangers @ Calgary
Phoenix @ Anaheim
Pittsburgh @ San Jose

Sunday:

St Louis @ Atlanta
Edmonton @ Colorado
__________________

[FAZ8218]

Wooo hoo! just made it!

Friday:

NY Islanders @ New Jersey
Toronto @ Carolina
Philadelphia @ Buffalo
Washington @ Florida
Vancouver @ Dallas
Chicago @ Colorado

Saturday:

Nashville @ Los Angeles
Buffalo @ Boston
Detroit @ Toronto
Tampa Bay @ Montreal
New Jersey @ Ottawa
Atlanta @ NY Islanders
St Louis @ Philadelphia
Florida @ Washington
Carolina @ Columbus
Dallas @ Minnesota
NY Rangers @ Calgary
Phoenix @ Anaheim
Pittsburgh @ San Jose

Sunday:

St Louis @ Atlanta
Edmonton @ Colorado[/QUOTE]

[iSpeakEloquent]

Friday:

NY Islanders @ New Jersey
Toronto @ Carolina
Philadelphia @ Buffalo
Washington @ Florida
Vancouver @ Dallas
Chicago @ Colorado

Saturday:

Nashville @ Los Angeles
Buffalo @ Boston
Detroit @ Toronto
Tampa Bay @ Montreal
New Jersey @ Ottawa
Atlanta @ NY Islanders
St Louis @ Philadelphia
Florida @ Washington
Carolina @ Columbus
Dallas @ Minnesota
NY Rangers @ Calgary
Phoenix @ Anaheim
Pittsburgh @ San Jose

Sunday:

St Louis @ Atlanta
Edmonton @ Colorado

late enough?

[Begbie]

Begbie, you goin' DOWN tonight!

Weh? Wha? Oh, I just woke up...I fell asleep halfway thru that snoozefest...:action-sm

[smurray06]

fuck my mouth, i got 1right tonight.

[FAZ8218]

I went 4/6.

[Begbie]

What the fuck is with shitty Newsday charging for online access? Not that their shitty Isles' coverage (from rookie reporter Katie Strang) was any good to begin with...but damn, they (and other newspapers like them) actually expect people to pay for access to their news...basically the same information you can get for free in other places on the Internet and on TV.

Chris Botta's blog is a perfect example of free Isles coverage that is far and beyond better than Newsday...and he doesn't even cover the team daily. Fanhouse now runs his Point Blank blog...and they were amazed that the blog had 1.2 million pageviews for October, far exceeding any month last year. And that's during a period when access to Newsday online was free. Now fans locked out of Newsday will just be steered to his blog.

[iSpeakEloquent]

could be a greedy cablevision thing, news 12 also charges for online access

[George Costanza]

10 best cup teams of the 2000's Puck Daddy Blog. Anyone know how to paste an article with the quote tags? Every time I do the quote thing it does not work.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_dadd...1&success=1

[ginaf20697]

Pretty good fight in the Flyers-Blues. Asham and Janssen kicking ass.

[Garyisajoke]

Nylander waives his no-movement clause. Caps put him on waivers.

Awesome.

[cleft_pallet]

fuck my mouth, i got 1right tonight.

Columbus will always come through for you.

[smurray06]

Columbus will always come through for you.

only took rick nash stepping on ward :action-sm
oh and i'm hoping the caps can pick up forsberg with the money they save from nylander being waved. ovechkin backstrom forsberg would look pretty damn good for a week till foppa breaks his foot again.

[Nstain]

Nylander waives his no-movement clause. Caps put him on waivers.

Awesome.

I guess he finally got tired sitting in the minors!

[Garyisajoke]

I guess he finally got tired sitting in the minors!

Nylander was wasting a Caps active roster spot - only went to the minors two weeks ago for a "conditioning stint." That's why he was such a fucking problem.

Good riddance.

[smurray06]

Nylander was wasting a Caps active roster spot - only went to the minors two weeks ago for a "conditioning stint." That's why he was such a fucking problem.

Good riddance.

in his defense he didn't fit the caps new coach, it's not like he is this horrible player. and he could have been a lot worse to the caps, but he kept his mouth shut and took the scratch every night, gotta give him credit he coulda made a lot more noise.

[George Costanza]

Wings lose Williams 4-6 weeks. Give Wings fans a chance to see some Grand Rapids Griffins players. Crazy injuries this year.

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/20...iams_leave.html

[Begbie]

Early reports I've been hearing on Cam Ward is anywhere from 3-6 months...but the way they're making it sound, it sounds more like the season. I heard he lost alot of blood and they kept him overnight...probably signaling a deep laceration with torn muscle. Yuck.

As if the Canes season could get any worse. With the record, number of injuries, and the injured goalie...they're starting to sound more like the Isles of last year.

[smurray06]

Wings lose Williams 4-6 weeks. Give Wings fans a chance to see some Grand Rapids Griffins players. Crazy injuries this year.

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/20...iams_leave.html

there is a guy named nylander on waivers who looked mighty good in Grand Rapids for 2 weeks, jus sayin.

[George Costanza]

there is a guy named nylander on waivers who looked mighty good in Grand Rapids for 2 weeks, jus sayin.

Nylander has played great in the past, most recently with Jagr and Straka on the Rangers. He's still full price right now which is too much, I think about 4.5 million. As far as reentry waivers one of the teams with a worse record will snag him before the Wings. I honestly think he's want to go play in the KHL with Jagr. Could make for a tense locker room if a team he doesn't want to play for grabs him off waivers.

[smurray06]

he won't be back in washington, and on ovechkins injury http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Chatting-with-Alex-Ovechkin-about-his-weeks-of?urn=nhl,200908
Q. You're in good mood. Are you getting better?

OVECHKIN: I am better. But I will miss 4-5 weeks.

[George Costanza]

he won't be back in washington, and on ovechkins injury http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Chatting-with-Alex-Ovechkin-about-his-weeks-of?urn=nhl,200908
Q. You're in good mood. Are you getting better?

OVECHKIN: I am better. But I will miss 4-5 weeks.

I know I sound like a broken record but I can't remember this many teams suffering with injury in recent memory. This is also an Olympic year which is going to further test the durability and conditioning of players that represent their teams.

[ginaf20697]

And amazingly Gaborik has only missed a few games.

[George Costanza]

Speaking of injuries top 10 list of past decade. Decent read with video clips.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/The-10-most-brutal-NHL-injuries-of-the-last-deca;_ylt=AhhvsVJSvEmkVZRlESzjEyh7vLYF?urn=nhl,200 846

Yeah Gaborik is doing better than Kovalchuck, Ovechkin and Malkin in games lost due to injuries.

[Absolutely]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef0128756486b0970c-pi

Luc Robitaille, Steve Yzerman, Brian Leetch, Brett Hull and New Jersey Devils executive Lou Lamoriello appeared at an informal fan forum at the Hockey Hall of Fame today, a relaxed moment before they plunge into the pomp and circumstance that will accompany their induction Monday.

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[FAZ8218]

Brett Hull's starting to take after his old man in the weight department as well...

[Garyisajoke]

Yeah Gaborik is doing better than Kovalchuck, Ovechkin and Malkin in games lost due to injuries.

The season's still young. :action-sm

[ginaf20697]

Brett Hull's starting to take after his old man in the weight department as well...


He was doing that in college.

[FAZ8218]

From CBS Sports:
The Capitals issued a brief statement on Sunday in regards to a Yahoo interview with left wing Alex Ovechkin, which quoted the two-time MVP saying he will be out 4-5 weeks with an upper-body injury. The statement read: "The Washington Capitals dispute the validity of this report."

[Garyisajoke]

From CBS Sports:

This situation will get interesting. I read the interview on Puck Daddy, and I initially thought it was a weird statement for him. He's been hush-hush on the injury details, but then he projects a return date - to a fucking blogger stalking him with autograph hounds, who wasn't even pressing him.

Either it's a fabrication, Ovie's fucking around or he's not exactly in sync with the Capitals organization.

[smurray06]

puck daddy has been accused of misquoting a few caps a few times.

[Absolutely]

Brett Hull's starting to take after his old man in the weight department as well...

Yeah, but after basically a whole life of having to watch what you eat and working out/playing sports, I can see why a lot athletes say fuck it - I'm eating that whole cake now.

[iSpeakEloquent]

Early reports I've been hearing on Cam Ward is anywhere from 3-6 months...but the way they're making it sound, it sounds more like the season. I heard he lost alot of blood and they kept him overnight...probably signaling a deep laceration with torn muscle. Yuck.

As if the Canes season could get any worse. With the record, number of injuries, and the injured goalie...they're starting to sound more like the Isles of last year.

i call it the curse of begbie

And amazingly Gaborik has only missed a few games.
Yeah Gaborik is doing better than Kovalchuck, Ovechkin and Malkin in games lost due to injuries.

shhhhhhhhhh

[Hoagie]

There are strong rumors that Crosby has been hurt for the last week as well. He hasn't looked himself over that time and there was an odd thing that happened before the Columbus game on the 30th. They called Chris Conner up from the Baby Penguins to fill Malkin's spot on the roster as he was missing his first game with his injury. They also called up Mark Letestu for some reason. There was only one spot left on the team plane and Conner was already on it and they went to great lengths to get Letestu to Columbus where he ended up not even suiting up and was sent back to the Baby Pens the next day. The rumor is that Crosby was a game time decision for that game. I f the Pens don't drop too many games over the next week or two and Malkin comes back it might not be a surprise if Crosby then misses some time due to an injury as well.

[smurray06]

Yeah, but after basically a whole life of having to watch what you eat and working out/playing sports, I can see why a lot athletes say fuck it - I'm eating that whole cake now.

that and the fact they can(or could, now they are on stricter diets) eat whatever the fuck they wanted cause they were working out for 4 hours a day or so.

[seeinred]

Wings lose Williams 4-6 weeks. Give Wings fans a chance to see some Grand Rapids Griffins players. Crazy injuries this year.

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/20...iams_leave.html
Nope, Holland says there won't be any call ups. He must just want to save as much cap space as possible to make a trade later or something.

[Begbie]

Canes signed Manny Legace. I didn't even know he was available. But definitely a good move without having to trade anyone and might actually help shake-up this team...but considering how many problems this team has, it's obviously not going to be enough.

They've determined that Ward will be out a minimum 3-4 weeks...and since there was damage to muscle, they really have no idea when he's coming back. Looks like they've become a legitimate contender for Hall.

i call it the curse of begbie

No kidding. I became an Isles fan in 86...the same season Mike Bossy retired at 30 due to back problems. I then thought they had a good shot at winning the Cup in 93, but I didn't see it happening after some fuckface named Dale Hunter took out Turgeon after scoring a series clinching goal. Then I thought they'd at least win a playoff series in 2002, but our best defenseman was taken out on a stretcher and best defensive forward blew out his knee. Haven't won a damn playoff series in 17 years. Canes won the Cup though...but, I wasn't really following them at that time. Once I started paying a little more attention and kept getting free tickets, they missed the playoffs, except for last season.

[George Costanza]

Ovechkin was just joshing about being out a month. Apparently he'll only be out for a week. He was probably just bullshitting, pretty funny if true.


http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news;_ylt=Arurxj57mjzw9rkvazkC5tl7vLYF?slug=ap-capitals-ovechkininjury&prov=ap&type=lgns

[Barely Legal]

Oooooh, Daniel Sedin is ready to come back to the roster sometime this week. Maybe as early as tuesday in St Louis.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e367/McCoyKY/WonderTwins.gif

[George Costanza]

Oooooh, Daniel Sedin is ready to come back to the roster sometime this week. Maybe as early as tuesday in St Louis.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e367/McCoyKY/WonderTwins.gif

Has it already been a month? Thought he was out four to five weeks.

[Barely Legal]

Has it already been a month? Thought he was out four to five weeks.

Well, it's not like they put an egg timer on his foot. Bones heal when they heal. :action-sm

[George Costanza]

Current list of first liners out with injuries.

"Among the marquee and instrumental players on the shelf with varying degrees of injuries are Alexander Ovechkin, Evgeni Malkin, Sergei Gonchar, Kris Letang, Simon Gagne, Daniel Briere, Jonathan Toews, Marian Hossa, Johan Franzen, Valtteri Filppula, Ilya Kovalchuk, David Booth, Paul Martin, Marc Savard, Milan Lucic, Daniel Sedin and Shea Weber. I daresay you could put together a pretty potent all-star lineup with the guys currently in the MASH unit."

[iSpeakEloquent]

ouch

[smurray06]

Nylander is almost certainly going to Russia, http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Steven-Hindle/MrNylander-Goes-To-Russia/98/24217

[George Costanza]

I bet Nylander will most likely end up on Avansgard Omsk with Jagr. If this is true the Caps now have a little over 4 million in cap space freed up. I have no problem with the KHL signing players like Nylander, good riddance.

[FAZ8218]

Tonights Habs jersey. Loved it when they first announced when they were gonna use it. Still love it seeing it in action now.
http://www.icethetics.info/storage/blog/1909habs.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1255498768 940

[Garyisajoke]

I bet Nylander will most likely end up on Avansgard Omsk with Jagr. If this is true the Caps now have a little over 4 million in cap space freed up. I have no problem with the KHL signing players like Nylander, good riddance.

Owner Ted Leonsis has said the only reason Karl Alzner is in Hershey (and not with the Caps) is money. Problem solved. Alzner will be a monster in the NHL.

Fun fact: Penguins (without Shrek, Letang and Gonchar) have gotten blanked twice in a row now. The Capitals on the other hand - missing Ovie, Green, Schultz and Gordon - won 2 straight and scored 11 goals. Who is the one-man team now? Where's Superman Sidney?

[smurray06]

the caps did play the panthers, and apparently sid's injured. oh yea, malkins out too.

[Hoagie]

Don't forget that Tyler Kennedy has been hurt and Brooks Orpik got hurt last night too. Half the team is injured and it was the worst possible time to have to go on a long road trip. These are the kind or trials you go through when your team has had back to back shortened off season.

[George Costanza]

You got that right the Wings are suffering from the same thing. That's the consequence of being a top tier team.

[ginaf20697]

http://images.yuku.com/image/jpeg/36e35f0c41f85c5cdd675c072e96693beb5f84f.jpg

[George Costanza]

Wrong
It's the worlds smallest Tambourine and it's playing some kind of song.

Wings up 4-0 over Columbus in the 1st
And Punt

[smurray06]

nother good game between caps and isles. if the caps win the isles record is 6-6-6, jus sayin. oh yea, steve mason is turning into jim carey.

[ginaf20697]

Jeez how stupid are Caps fans to be throwing hats on the ice for a SHOOTOUT goal?

[smurray06]

Jeez how stupid are Caps fans to be throwing hats on the ice for a SHOOTOUT goal?
they did it for ovechkin earlier in the year.

[ginaf20697]

So they're doubly stupid then?

[smurray06]

So they're doubly stupid then?
most of us are new to hockey winky face.
edit, isles are 6-6-6

[cleft_pallet]

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[Garyisajoke]

the caps did play the panthers, and apparently sid's injured. oh yea, malkins out too.

I mentioned Malkin.

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Varlamov was clutch in tonight's shootout. I wish he were more consistent, but he showed a lot of poise.

And I'm not deluded enough to think that the Penguins suck, or they're done for the season, or they don't have a chance to ruin my summer - but right now, the Capitals are tops in the conference.

[smurray06]

OH lol, i thought shrek was some player i've never heard of. and yea varly played very well, for some reason, if he comes off the bench, he seems to play really well. starting ok, but not nearly as well as off the bench.

[Garyisajoke]

OH lol, i thought shrek was some player i've never heard of. and yea varly played very well, for some reason, if he comes off the bench, he seems to play really well. starting ok, but not nearly as well as off the bench.

You're absolutely right. If you think about last year's playoffs, Varly's very strong in pressure situations (except Game 7) - and when he's brought off the bench, the team is probably down big and needs him to step up.

It's the soft goals in easy games that kill.

[smurray06]

You're absolutely right. If you think about last year's playoffs, Varly's very strong in pressure situations (except Game 7) - and when he's brought off the bench, the team is probably down big and needs him to step up.

It's the soft goals in easy games that kill.

honestly he didn't play great in the second round against the pens, he played better then you would expect. and he had that great save in game(i was there jus sayin) against crosby, but he also gave a few softies up. i'm not saying he was to blame for the series, and even if he had a good game in game 7 i don't see the caps beating Detroit, but when his brain isn't in there, he's a lot beter. and i'm drunk so this post is probably confusing.

[Begbie]

It was yet another great game between the Caps and Isles. Alot of intensity and I thought it was going to be a high scoring game, but the play settled down quite a bit. Now, the pressure is on the Isles to go into Carolina and push their losing streak to 14. I'll be at this game and I'd usually feel pretty comfortable...but I'm getting a bad feeling that the Isles just might pull an absolute stinker and embarrass the shit out of me (nonetheless, it'll be Friday the 13th). Carolina is going to get a win eventually, and I just know I'll be in alot of trouble if it's against the Isles.

It's fuckin crazy that the Isles record is 6-6-6.

[Garyisajoke]

It was yet another great game between the Caps and Isles. Alot of intensity and I thought it was going to be a high scoring game, but the play settled down quite a bit. Now, the pressure is on the Isles to go into Carolina and push their losing streak to 14. I'll be at this game and I'd usually feel pretty comfortable...but I'm getting a bad feeling that the Isles just might pull an absolute stinker and embarrass the shit out of me. Carolina is going to get a win eventually, and I just know I'll be in alot of trouble if it's against the Isles.

It's fuckin crazy that the Isles record is 6-6-6.

The Isles continue to impress me, and for some reason they match up very well against the Capitals. Three great games between the two this season.

[Begbie]

The Isles continue to impress me, and for some reason they match up very well against the Capitals. Three great games between the two this season.

Right on. And that's refreshing to hear, especially since the Isles aren't exactly healthy...Doug Weight is now out 4-6 weeks, Okposo has the swine flu, Comeau probably has the swine flu, and Martinek is out for the season. But again, I think it's the styles of play both teams use. Both teams are certainly not afraid to take risks at any point in the game. It's sort of the anti-trap. Unfortunately, the style the Isles play leaves their defensemen vulnerable because they've usually got two forwards in deep forecheck. That actually pissed Brendan Witt off for periods last season because he's a very slow skater and he thought there was too much open ice in the neutral zone for the opposition's skilled forwards to gain alot of speed. On the other hand, it's allowed him and Andy Sutton to step up and land a few good open ice hits.

I've always hoped that the Isles would model their rebuild after the Caps, because it obviously has paid off for you guys. It's all about building a young team that can compete for years to come. And I think the Caps, along with the Pens and Hawks (whom I think closely resembles what the Isles are doing) have that. Now, it certainly doesn't hurt having the opportunity to nab an Ovechkin, Crosby, Malkin, or Kane (though I've got my fingers crossed on Tavares)...but I think building thru the draft is the best way to assemble a team that can stay in the top of the conference for many years. Although, it may be tough for some teams in the foreseeable future...outside of Hall, I really haven't heard much chatter of up and coming juniors and can't miss prospects.

[smurray06]

IMO drafting isn't key, as much as devolping, and just the player itself. look at Detroit, datysuk was what, a 200 something pick, he wasn't great when he was drafted, sure he had skill, but there was a hell of a lot of luck and patience involved too. also, when a team failing in threat of leaving gets a "lottery pick" who has been proclaimed as the next gretzky since he was 12, it isn't good drafting, it's corruption. btw those pitt fans travel so well don't they? except when their team isn't the best in teh league, then they don't show up, and there is my drunk rant on pitt for however long until i get annoyed, and drunk. by the shitty ownership(do they have any, last i heard every other owner was paying to keep that horrible franchise afloat, pre "lottery" of course that is)

[George Costanza]

Giguere not happy with role. I don't see many takers given his inflated salary. As others have stated I would like to see him on the Wings but not for nearly 7 million a year.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=505584

Lots of good games tonight. Hopefully the Wings can build off of the 9-1 trouncing of Columbus.

[Garyisajoke]

Giguere not happy with role. I don't see many takers given his inflated salary. As others have stated I would like to see him on the Wings but not for nearly 7 million a year.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=505584

Lots of good games tonight. Hopefully the Wings can build off of the 9-1 trouncing of Columbus.

Osgood is getting up there in years. I'm admittedly ignorant about the Wings - do they have any back-ups with starter potential, or prospects in the farm system?

[George Costanza]

Osgood is getting up there in years. I'm admittedly ignorant about the Wings - do they have any back-ups with starter potential, or prospects in the farm system?

Seeinred is the expert but in my opinion.
They've been taking baby steps with Howard for the past 3 years in the minor league. He has a real weak 5 hole, evidenced by the size of his leg pads above the knee. Don't know of any other prospects. I really wish the Wings would of kept Conklin, one of the best backups in the nhl the past few years. I hope the Wings pick up Marty Biron the day Dipietro comes back. Cause everyone knows Dipietro will last about a week.

[Barely Legal]

God damn there's some fucking jackhammers thrown in this fight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqZt1jCMCng