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Absolutely
09-24-2009, 10:07 PM
I'm sure everyone has heard Ole Strokey Gammons talk about the idea of an additional Wild Card team, what are your thoughts?
He proposes the season starts 3 days earlier, to allow for an additional best of 3 series between the TWO wild card teams.
The winner would then play the team with the best record, like usual.
I could go either way on it...
I like the idea that the Wild Card team would basically be punished. They'd have to go into the NLDS throwing their 4th starter game 1, and maybe their 5th at some point.
These would be the Wild Card and Wild Card 2 teams the last few seasons.
2008 - Brewers/Mets, Redsox/Yankees
2007 - Rockies/Padres, Yankees/Tigers
2006 - Dodgers/Phillies, Tigers/White Sox
Does it "Water it down"?
Either way, I think the NLDS should be 7 games. 5 games is too fluky, especially if the team has a great 1-2 SP
Ballbuster1
09-24-2009, 10:10 PM
I like it the way it is. Baseball is one of the few sports where your really have
to be the best to get into the playoffs.
roche
09-24-2009, 10:10 PM
Go back to two divisions and get rid of the division series altogether. Wildcards are for faggits.
domelogic
09-24-2009, 10:13 PM
adding a wild card team has boosted interest and made things interesting. i liked the old style of having just the division winners play but splitting them into 3 divisions ruled that out. so adding another wild card team is not something i am interested in.
on a side note, i wish the playoffs and the world series could be played earlier. having been to games in philly when the temperature was in the 30's wasnt much fun
Ballbuster1
09-24-2009, 10:30 PM
Yeah, I wouldn't mind the season being a bit shorter but the owners will never
suffer the loss of revenue less games would bring.
Aaron Burrito
09-24-2009, 10:34 PM
I say no to this.
Kugzilla
09-24-2009, 11:56 PM
I don't think there's a reason to change it now. In 15 years when there's 10 new teams including one on the moon, maybe they'll need to look at it.
I'd vote no on this one, too. There's no reason for more than 4 teams per league to make the playoffs.
If they're going to add playoff teams, then they need to go the full nine like the NBA and NHL. Eight teams from each league, best of 7 series for all rounds and let the World Series take place between Christmas and New Years Day.
oandapartycock
09-25-2009, 04:03 AM
I don't like it. For most of the other reasons stated, but also because I don't think the wild card winner should be penalized like that. You could have a team win a division with a barely .500 record and then a team with 95 wins get stuck having to go through their rotations in an extra series.
Bud8Weiser
09-25-2009, 08:55 AM
I like it the way it is. Baseball is one of the few sports where your really have
to be the best to get into the playoffs.
Completely agree.
Stormrider666
09-25-2009, 05:49 PM
I don't think it would water it down the MLB playoffs, because it would still be nowhere as bad as the NHL and the NBA.
That being said, I don't think its necessary to add a second wild card. This is just a knee jerk reaction to the so called lack of pennant races down the stretch in baseball this year. Its just like how since ESPN's darling team of last year, the Tampa Rays didn't make it to the playoffs this year, everybody wants to start talking about the competitve balance in baseball.
N.Y. Johnny
09-26-2009, 12:15 AM
Nah, just leave it as it is. There's no need to tweak the playoffs like this adding a second wildcard.
Absolutely
09-26-2009, 01:35 AM
Gammons was on Mike and Mike this morning talking about it.
Gammons said he thought there was a pretty good chance of this happening in the near future. Or something to that extent.
He also had no real answer as to why all of a sudden is he talking about this. Golic implied that it was only because this year's playoff races are non-existent, which I think is obvious.
Next season when there are a few good big market races nobody will be talking about the 2 Wild Card teams.
If they allow the owners to vote on this proposal, you can bet it'll be a done deal. Allowing more teams in the playoffs means more money. That is the only reason the NBA and NHL have 16 team playoff systems. More teams=more dollars.
oandapartycock
09-26-2009, 02:38 AM
Baseball has far too many "traditionalists" for something like this to happen.
Absolutely
09-26-2009, 07:36 AM
Baseball has far too many "traditionalists" for something like this to happen.
How many strokes would Bob Costas have if this went through?
TreeFortRichard
09-26-2009, 09:19 PM
Yeah, I agree that the playoffs are too late...when the redsox played the rockies in 2007 in colorado there was threat of snow...SNOW...and game time temp's can be in the high 20's, low 30's nigh time in colorado...And it's cold in boston too
fandango86
09-27-2009, 05:27 AM
love the idea.
pink soccer
09-29-2009, 04:53 PM
I hate the idea adding another wildcard team.. As it is they should shorten the season to 150 games and start the playoffs two weeks earlier. Baseball players are called the boys of summer but the championship is decided in winter like weather.
Big Dick Mcgee
09-29-2009, 06:22 PM
Leave it as it is. The season is to long as it is. And like was said before baseball is one of the few sports left that you need to be good to make the playoffs.
DonTheTrucker
10-01-2009, 08:16 AM
I'm not an expert on baseball, but more games would just end up being more injuries.
I'm not an expert on baseball, but more games would just end up being more injuries.
No way.....what with at least three playoff series being played in the northeast, I'm sure nobody would shred a hamstring or rotator cuff when it's 35 degrees at game time :rolleyes:
They need to leave well enough alone. One wild card team in each league is plenty.
UCJOE
10-02-2009, 02:40 AM
I don't think adding a WC is the answer but I do think the WC team should only get one game in the division (#3) and two in the championship (#3-4) as home games.
If they get to the WS then let it be as usual
I don't think adding a WC is the answer but I do think the WC team should only get one game in the division (#3) and two in the championship (#3-4) as home games.
If they get to the WS then let it be as usual
That's an interesting idea. It would definitely give the WC team a bit more of a penalty for not being a division winner. The way they do it now, it's really no disadvantage at all to be the WC team. Pretty much everybody has 3 legit starting pitchers, so the short series is going to be a toss-up.
Absolutely
10-02-2009, 03:30 AM
That's an interesting idea. It would definitely give the WC team a bit more of a penalty for not being a division winner.
I mentioned the punishment of the WC team, but what if the WC is a lot better than the team they're playing?
Like the Red Sox and Tigers this season. The Red Sox could have close to 10 more wins than the Tigers, so I don't know if they need to be punished for not being able to win 105 games to win the AL East.
I guess just leave it as is...
Though I think if that 2nd WC team got in they'd be able to do some damage just based on the hotness factor. But in the way it's proposed their pitching would be decimated so what's the point?
I mentioned the punishment of the WC team, but what if the WC is a lot better than the team they're playing?
I was talking to my dad about this subject the other day. It drives me crazy that, in most years, there is one division that just isn't very good. One team from that division will get a playoff bid by default. I kind of wish they just took the best 4 records from each league and put them in the playoffs. If that means that 3 teams from the AL East end up making the playoffs, so be it.
Absolutely
10-02-2009, 05:48 PM
I was talking to my dad about this subject the other day. It drives me crazy that, in most years, there is one division that just isn't very good. One team from that division will get a playoff bid by default. I kind of wish they just took the best 4 records from each league and put them in the playoffs. If that means that 3 teams from the AL East end up making the playoffs, so be it.
I'd be Ok with that, but they'd have to get rid of the divisions, wouldn't you. Try to make sure every team plays the same teams the same amount of times. The uneven division schedule wouldn't be fair then, you couldn't have the Cubs or Cards play the Pirates 18 times while the Giants play them 6.
It'd be a mess.
I'd be Ok with that, but they'd have to get rid of the divisions, wouldn't you. Try to make sure every team plays the same teams the same amount of times. The uneven division schedule wouldn't be fair then, you couldn't have the Cubs or Cards play the Pirates 18 times while the Giants play them 6.
It'd be a mess.
Yea, they'd have to go to a balanced schedule. I may be wrong, but I was thinking that back in the 80's everybody played everybody the same number of times, there wasn't the division-heavy schedule like they have today.
Doesn't really matter. If they did start taking the top 4 records for the playoffs, we'd all just find something else to bitch about :icon_mrgr
UCJOE
10-02-2009, 11:11 PM
I mentioned the punishment of the WC team, but what if the WC is a lot better than the team they're playing?
Like the Red Sox and Tigers this season. The Red Sox could have close to 10 more wins than the Tigers, so I don't know if they need to be punished for not being able to win 105 games to win the AL East.
A team that came in second should be penalized - idc about records compared to others
The Rockies could be going after the division like they should but instead are not bc being the WC team isnt that big of a deal
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