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Bloodshot Wise
06-03-2001, 03:23 AM
I can totally understand if parents need a little help with the bills sometimes, but what happened today was really fucked up – at least in my opinion. To make a long story short, here’s what happened: I was walking through the kitchen and there’s my dad sitting at the table doing the bills. So he says to me, “When are you going to help me with these bills?” So I reply, “If I had the money, I’d be more than willing to give you what you need, but right now I gotta pay my own bills.” I’m up to my neck in bills of my own. Just to name a few, I have to pay my: phone bill, student loan, gas card bill, car payments, car insurance, health insurance, & two credit cards. So he continues yapping about how creditors keep calling, and how this company and that company keep calling due to late payments. So I say to him, “I would give you money if I could, but right now I cant.” “It’s either I pay you, or I pay them.” So this bunghole of a father has the nerve to say this to me….”Well then don’t pay them. I NEED MONEY.” Maaannnnn, FUCK YOU! You greedy mutha F’er. Don’t get me wrong here, I have given this guy money more than a few times already. The thing is, this guy isnt making much of a living, and you can’t blame me for that.
Also, you can’t blame me because you don’t know how to budget your money. You can’t blame me for the fact that you ran up all your credit card bills. When I give, it’s a favor. Don’t fuckin take out your problems and your mistakes on me. Don’t try and force me to destroy MY credit to save YOUR ass. Maybe if you got your priorities straight and stopped spending so much money on your damn self, you wouldn’t be as fucked as you are. I wouldn’t be surprised if a nice chunk of your money is going to your other women you lying, cheating bastard. Ok I’m getting pissed, I’m outta here. Fuck you man.
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imoverherenow
06-03-2001, 11:32 AM
Sounds like you put him in his place. I understand where you are coming from and believe i have fought many battles and been in many wars myself but the one thing i have learned is that its better to walk away and not give them the satisfaction of getting you pissed and losing control. My parents could be assholes sometimes but all the fights where never worth it cause they would never admit there wrong and your right.
Ranma Saotome
06-03-2001, 08:10 PM
Sounds like my house... Course if I said that, I'd be homeless. Sucks to be me.
BabyBunni
06-04-2001, 08:44 AM
I hear ya...when I was working makin $400 a week my mom would take my checks and tell me that I owed her money so basically I was working for no reason at all....needless to say I quit.
I think you should repay them for taking care of you even for just a short time.
BabyBunni
06-04-2001, 08:29 PM
SOS...did we ask to be born...yep thats what I thought, we didn't...so why should we pay someone back for something we didn't even ask for?
imoverherenow
06-04-2001, 09:02 PM
Some parents are like that i dont know why but they just are. I could see if you gave a little something here and there when they needed it and you could spare it but they need to understand this shit too.
SCUMBAG
06-04-2001, 11:46 PM
Alright, if you take any advice, take this- My girlfriend had the same exact deal as you. It got so bad she was working just to pay for lunch, transit and her leach of a father. I was actually paying her bills for her. It ended when she explained to her father that one day she would be moving out and if her father depended on that money he would get fucked because she wouldn't be there to give him the money if she moved out.He had to find other ways of getting money or spending less because she wouldnt always be there to give it. it got so bad that she would cash her paycheck and give ALL the money to him. He would give her like 10 bucks a day to buy lunch and get on the bus. total bullshit. It pissed me off because I had to pay my girlfriend's bills because she couldn't. I even through $500 in his face and made him look like a dick in front of his wife. I took the money back though. If you have a few extra bucks left over after paying your bills, give him some, but he has to learn that he can't just depend on you.
Bloodshot Wise
06-05-2001, 03:40 AM
wow, i was just venting out on this one. i didn't expect this much feeback. Thanks alot for the advice people.
imoverherenow
06-05-2001, 08:17 AM
No problem god knows i got alot of experience in this situation and have been threw more than i care to share.
Because they care about you.
Originally posted by BabyBunni:
SOS...did we ask to be born...yep thats what I thought, we didn't...so why should we pay someone back for something we didn't even ask for?
BabyBunni
06-05-2001, 04:03 PM
so basically you're saying that our parents are like hookers?? we have to pay them to care about us?? funny joke
Ranma Saotome
06-05-2001, 05:30 PM
I hear ya...when I was working makin $400 a week my mom would take my checks and tell me that I owed her money so basically I was working for no reason at all....needless to say I quit.
I thought I was alone... I feel for you bunni.
No. What I am saying is that for most of your life, you have acted as a big parasite to your parents and now is the time to repay them if you care. You don't have to do this forever though. Just untill your parents are out of trouble financially.
Originally posted by BabyBunni:
so basically you're saying that our parents are like hookers?? we have to pay them to care about us?? funny joke
[ 06-07-2001: Message edited by: Sonof Spaz ]
[ 06-07-2001: Message edited by: Sonof Spaz ]
MAVRIC305
06-07-2001, 01:33 AM
In all honesty, I think parents deserve all the repect in the worlfd from their children. I feel for you Bunni, I have been there and now I am there again. The truth is no matter how bad things get, most parents will be there for there children, unless your a useless fuck, that abuses the treatment they bestowe upon you.
As for me, my Parents can have it all, to an extent. They need me right now, so I will sacrifice the personal belongings that I would like to have to help them reach retirement. Then I will worry about myself. They deserve it for spoiling me until I was 17. If I happen to hit the lottery, they are set for life. Trust me I know some of the shit you guys are going through, but it all comes down to you and what you want. It doesn't matter what me or anyone else thinks.
I really can totally understand what brandon is saying I have been there. Only problem is my pop is a drunk, and it makes it alittle harder to pound in his head that I do put money into the house. He thinks just because I came back to live with them means that I have no money. I pay half the rent and the cable, which is not cheap with 2 cable modems and all cable channels. OH damn you guys got me started. Sorry for the rant. This is such an easy subject to get into when your at this age. Good luck everyone. :D
SCUMBAG
06-08-2001, 09:54 AM
I'll do anything for my mother, she deserves the best. As for my father, he can bleed to death and I wouldn't call 911.
broadwaychris
06-10-2001, 04:41 AM
SOS, I'm with you, but I'm gonna go one further. Only in this shameful country, do nit wit children, not understand the family structure. The base stupidity of addressing whether or not you asked for life from a parent, shows a neanderthal thought capacity. Only a fucking nit wit, who never paid a real bill, who hasnt had to come up with the fucking cake to keep, the lights on, rent paid, phone working, car insured, cable working, food cooking and a hundred other little extras, would say "I didnt ask to be born". Being born is a biological fact, it's your only real reason for existing, to reproduce, period. Because parents keep it all together, by buying furniture, taking shit from a boss, keeping you in some sort of health coverage, going to welfare, whatever, thats why their entitled to respect and money. there are women who suck dick to feed their kids, because they know their responsibilities, they feel responsible enough for you, even though 'you didnt ask for life',to make plenty of REAL sacrifices, every fucking day. So when you little piss ants, sit in front of your little computers mindlessly, get high in class, give your boyfriend a blow job when his parents are not home, watch the worthless drivel you look at on TV and do whatever fills your pointless little existances, everyday, you can do it because, YOU ARE SUBSIDIZED. You cant do it with the check from Burger King or Rainbow. Your $400 aint shit. Sorry you had to give up your precious little hours to do a fucked up thing like kicking in to the family, I know you need a cell phone to talk to other drama cases, like yourselves, or to "pay your girlfriends bills", whatever that might be. If you aint buying smack for your mom, chances are youre kicking in some necessary money. So have some character and pay YOUR part, by being a productive human being and housemate for the people who would find the bread for you, dopes.
Ranma Saotome
06-10-2001, 03:01 PM
Let's see, my old man lost the job that I got him, my mom is gone for days at a time, my room is rented out, my shit gets stolen, my parents refuse to take responsibility... And I work hard, and I'm invisible to them until it's payday... God, someone help me...
DIRTY_HARRY
06-10-2001, 07:23 PM
I have three kids.........23 20 and 7 and I dont ask a damn thing from them....As a matter af fact I would wish for them to stay out my face lol na not at all all I ask is for a dish or two be washed or straighten up after themselves...Not that that will ever happen but as for money I just took on a second job ....I will do whatever it takes...It isnt their falt I have bills.
broadwaychris
06-10-2001, 09:55 PM
Ranma, Those are losers and you have to get the fuck out. There are no other answers, just excuses. They obviously gave up and so should you. :mad:
SCUMBAG
06-11-2001, 03:16 PM
So lets see here, I've had to watch my mother wake up and go to bed every day a miserable person because my father is such a piece of shit. She doesn't get a divorce because she didnt want to hurt us kids. Now it's too late in her life to get a divorce. It sucks when you can actually count the good times you've had growing up. My father is a verbally abusive ( which I think is worse than physical), controlling, vicous, self centered piece of shit. Sure he put food on the table, clothes on my back, and a roof over my head but i ask myself every day if it was all really worth it. When you're own father tells you that you make him sick and he hates you and wishes he never met your stupid cunt mother, that kinda makes you a little bit bitter. Never having a birthday party because you got a B on your test and not an A can fuck up a little kids head. I admit, I am a fucked up person and yes, I blame it ALL on my father. I support myslef now fully, and when my girlfriend had trouble with her bills, I had enough money to bail her out. I don't ask for anything in return. I have my own brand new truck, pay all my bills, I owe no money and I've done it all by myself. I don't owe my father DICK. He can fuckin rot in his own shit for all I care. I know other people have had it much harder than me and dont feel as bitter as I do. Thats great for them. as for me, I hate life, and most other people and care about myself, my grilfriend and my mother. I dont need any one else or anything else. So I dont know what kind of life anyone else here has or has had but untill you walk in my shoes, don't tell me that I'm ungrateful or any other type of bullshit you could come up with.Maybe you had a wonderful childhood with 2 great parents and a big fuckin house. Maybe you didn't. Either way, I really couldnt fuckin care less. I didn't have a wonderful childhood. In fact it fuckin sucked and I wish it never happened, and amazingly, so does my father. So to me, the bottom line is- I dont owe my father a fuckin thing except the torment he's given me. If that makes me a dope, than I guess I'm a dope. Who gives a rotting fuck what you think of me anyway.
broadwaychris
06-11-2001, 09:54 PM
SCUMBAG, The world is chock full of douchbags who fill the role of "parent", my apologies to you, for pontificating on the state of the American familyhood. My rant still stands, but, I wasnt thinking about families like yours and once again, I apologize. If this means anything to you, I've found that the further you distance yourself from the situation, the better your life becomes. It sounds to me like youre doing pretty good already. I came from disfunctional assholes as well, and to be honest about it, I lived a childhood of shame and saw a good share of verbal abuse (from my mother)myself. I spent alot of time plotting my escape and did it ASAP. I also did plenty of finger pointing and hating and therapy and coke for the years after. None of us are the same and no one approach works, but time works wonders. I live a mostly happy life, and I just dont think about the past. I even call my mother once in awhile. When my son was born, I understood exactly what the purpose of my shit childhood was, to be the parent, my barbarian, asshole parents, never could be. And to be sickeningly positive about it, people like you and I, are lucky to have had a fucking road map drawn for us on how not to be asshole parents, and your kids will be the recipients of parenting that works. You gotta know, that the shit that we recieve in life, is not just because we have bad luck, its lifes lessons, your choice, is what to do with it. I just guarantee you, if you take a crack at a family of your own, you'll see how good a family can be, because of you, and you'll find some peace after the shit that your family provided you. If you let it. Enough. Sorry for the disrespect. :cool:
SCUMBAG
06-11-2001, 11:04 PM
I couldn't agree more with you on the parenting thing. I've got 25 years of education on how NOT to be good parent. When the time comes around for me to be a parent, beleive me, I won't be making the same mistakes. My father also had a tough up bringing so i guess thats where it comes from with him but it's still no excuse. My brother is even more out of his head than me but he hasn't learned to be different. He thinks he is but he really is the same person as my father so I guess I'll be the one breaking the chain of insanity.
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