assassin216
03-27-2004, 02:02 PM
i just wondering have anyone ever heard of lenny bruce becuz i just got through watchin a documentary about him and it is kinda fuck up........to the people who dont know lenny bruce was a comic in the 1950's who was ahead of his time he said alot of profanity and racist jokes who was arrest for sayin because some people thought it was to obscene at the time it was til he started making jokes anout religion that got him arrest and shit and this is what this country is in now and shit ......they played some of his jokes during the documentary none of it wasnt obscene to me especially his racial jokes about blacks....i am a 24 year old black male and didnt get offend one bit maybe because i live in a different time and shit ....... it seems like if someone makes a racial joke these days the other person gets offend......i talkin about the jokes that everyone know it isnt true but gets it for example everyone know that all blacks dont do drugs but when some says it jesse jackson or al sharptons(bootlegg martin luther king)they wanna protest and shit......but anyways back to lenny ....there was a lawyer who was offend about a religion joke lenny made a prosecuted him for that ....lenny try to tell the judge in his case he can do a stand up in the court room but the judge refuse and let false transcripts to lenny bruce stand up act.....yall make think this is alot of reading but this is how the country is today and shit see i dont get offended easily but i am concern that all these religious nuts is takin over the country tell me what to do because you know what if i say somethin they dont like they may want to prosected me for sayin the word cunt and bitch and shit and that gonna end up happendin if we dont stop these people and shit but anyways bye :loll2: :loll2:
Ballbuster1
03-27-2004, 03:30 PM
I don't remember if he was arrested more for drugs or
for giving obscene performances. His material was way
ahead of it's time. We need to fight this mentality that
if 1 person gets offended by something then it should
be banned. If not there will never be any more comics
like Lenny.
BuffaloPaul
03-28-2004, 08:32 AM
Originally posted by assassin216
i just wondering have anyone ever heard of lenny bruce becuz i just got through watchin a documentary about him and it is kinda fuck up...
Yes, "A-man" I have seen some documentary films on Lenny Bruce!
Back when I went to college in the early 80's, I majored in Media-Communications, and researched the Lenny Bruce story in detail. He was the man who paved the way for people like George Carlin, Richard Pryor, Eddie Murphy, and Chris Rock. He was the man in the 60's that openly faught the lines of indecency and pushed the envelope of that time. It may seem mild by today's standards, but they were unheard of during those days.
That Lenny Bruce documentary footage may have been the first video tape I ever sent away for to receive by mail, that's how important this subject was to me at the time. There is ANOTHER film out there about the life of Lenny Bruce that you should watch. It stars a young Dustin Hoffman as Lenny Bruce, in a film that is shot entirely in B&W and is simply entitled... "Lenny"
http://i2.ebayimg.com/02/i/01/80/ab/2c_2.JPG
The movie really tries to show the roller coaster life style that Lenny Bruce was living at that time. His unique take on life, and his eventual persecution by the forces that be. Towards the end of his carreer he becamed too obsessed with the court cases, and he forgot about making it funny for the masses. He was an edgy comic that was forced to defend himself in the court room, and he needed to speak out about this injustice that was happening to himself... but eventually the general mass audience became bored with such talk of legal issues... and stopped listening.
That's why many are making the same comparison to Howard Stern right now. His show use to be a show about potty humor, now it's all about politics and his audience is getting bored with him real quick.
Let me make one more comparison about the late... great... Lenny Bruce. I think our own Jim Norton is today's version of Lenny Bruce. Jimmy... I know you read these boards on occasion, so let me tell you that when you do that bit about yourself visiting Dallas and the site of the Kennedy assasignation... you are SO... "Lenny Bruce - like" when you do that bit. You... describing the spot where Kennedy was shot, and the whole thing how you posing for pictures on that spot... it's the kind of shit Lenny would have come up with. He was profoundly moved by events like that, but he found a way to make people laugh, and think about issues of the day.
Lenny Bruce wasn't very commercially popular, and had few appearances on regular TV... but the few he did have were ground breaking. Lenny Bruce wasn't meant to be on TV for the masses... he was a hip comedy club phenominon. Same with our own Jim Norton... he doesn't have the mug that is made for the mass public to fawn over... he is edgy, and not meant to be watered down for network television. I am glad he had other obligations and was not able to appear on that "Last Comic Standing 2 Show"... because that's not the way I want to see Jim, anyway. The news that came out about the scandal behind that show, also reinforces my thoughts that shows like that are nothing but a scam for the masses to swallow. I wouldn't want anyone associated with O&A to win one of those "talent reality shows". The general American public are idiots, and if you win one of these things, you get the gold stamp of the general idiot population... not something you should hold in high reguard.
Case in point... Dat Phan... "The Defense rests it's case"! :cool3:
(So... Find that Dustin Hoffman... "Lenny" movie, rent it, and watch it!) ::hammer:
Here are some Lenny Bruce links I found to check out...
http://www.fadetoblack.com/foi/lennybruce/index.html
http://members.aol.com/dcspohr/lenny/lenny1.htm
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/bruce/brucevideo.html
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/bruce/withouttears.gif
Ballbuster1
03-28-2004, 09:06 AM
I saw the "Lenny" flick with Hoffman in the theatre when it was
1st released. Great movie. Anybody interested in Lenny Bruce
should see it.
vBulletin® v3.7.3, Copyright ©2000-2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.