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BuffaloPaul
04-15-2004, 07:55 PM
I need to start a thread about this subject and possibly get some questions answered.
If your just happening about this subject, let me bring you up to speed. This was posted in a thread late Monday night...
ANYONE KNOW WHAT THIS IS? (http://www.geocities.com/oa2k4/) (If it goes dead, Foundry put up a link here (http://www.foundrymusic.com/opieanthony/displayheadline.cfm?id=4910).) XM or SIRIUS? WHAT THE HECK IS THIS?!?!?! Story took place on April 12, 2004 Reported by FMJEFF We have NO idea what this, or who made it, but someone obviously has more information than we do if they're going through the trouble of putting up an entire website with audio (which isn't up yet).
Then again, speculation seems to be running wild, so maybe the person who made this knows ZERO.
CLICK HERE TO SEE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT (http://www.geocities.com/oa2k4/)
If it DOES crap out (because God only knows how little bandwith those Geocities sites can handle before they die a horrible death), then THIS is what it looks like:
Someone knows something, no?
Stay tuned...
The site's getting pounded and is offline. For anyone who hasn't seen it yet, this is what the front page of his site looks like:
http://files.foundrymusic.com/JPEG/oa_xm_sirius_site.jpg
BuffaloPaul? Comment? If it's not you, then somebody's really ripping you off (Hoo hoo).
I explained many times this geocities site is NOT mine and I do not know who is updating this site with new sound files every night. I've chatted with Sexbagel about this, who has connections at Foundry, and he insists nobody there knows where this came from.
I know it's not mine... Sexbagel says it's not his... then WHO'S IS IT?
We have some creative minds on this board... we should be able to figure this out. "Radioguy" recently provided me with a zipped folder of the raw geocities page in it's complete form. I uploaded it to the folder I have been storing these new "oa2k4" files in...
http://www.buffnet.net/~paulk/newONATRIX/
Poke around that folder and see if you can find a piece of evidence I may have overlooked. There must be something in those raw files that will help us track the source.
Listen to the sound clips themselves, and give me some idea who would produce something like this? Sexbagel says the sound quality sounds like these were broadcasted on the radio and that is why he feels a fan did it. However... it has to be a fan with quite an elaborate mixing sound board... don't you think? These clips sounded like something O&A would put together as part of their opening sound byte sequence. These are clips that are placed together to show a feeling or emotion that may be rattling around in their heads right now.
When someone posted that email writings from Opie many months ago, it was Opie's feeling from the days S4S3 went down... and people questioned it's origins. Why would Opie send that to a fan? But another question nagged us more... How the hell could a fan make those words up? It was just too much knowlege from that day NOT to be factual.
I ask you to treat these audio files the same way. Do you really think I have the ability to come up with shit like this? Having only limited radio experience at my college radio station from back in the 80's... I wouldn't know the first thing about throwing these clips together so seamlessly.
If it's NOT ME... then WHO?
Why couldn't this be from O&A... god knows they've had months and months of free time on their hands to specifically craft these audio files to announce their return... WHY THE HELL WOULDN'T IT BE THEM?
Feel free to answer ANY of these questions! :smarty:
Go to the "mirror site" I created to listen to the sound files again...
"oa2k4" mirror site (http://www.buffnet.net/~paulk/newONATRIX/oa2k4.html)
SpotcheckBilly
04-15-2004, 09:02 PM
I listened to all 3 clips. I thought the most telling was the first one. A lot of different sources, and very cleanly edited. I have a background in sound re-enforcement, and this is a very professional job. Somebody would have to have access to a lot of Media clips to pull this off, and knowledge of the Dru Boogie Mixes to make it sound authentic. If it's not an inside job, which I'm not saying that it is..it's the work of a Very talented amateur with a Huge collection of clips.
I'm not sure if that amateur exists or not. But thanks to whoever produced these 3 clips, and thanks to BP for creating the "mirror" site so we can all hear them. The Geocities sites seem to be pounded to death.
peewee
04-15-2004, 09:34 PM
dose anyone remember when opie and anthony were doing contests that involved sending in pictures. i remember them saying that they could put them through some "filter" to see if they were legit or simply a good photoshop job. dose anyone know anything about this, and if so can we do it for those xm pics. i think that would tell a lot.
BuffaloPaul
04-15-2004, 09:44 PM
dose anyone remember when opie and anthony were doing contests that involved sending in pictures. i remember them saying that they could put them through some "filter" to see if they were legit or simply a good photoshop job. dose anyone know anything about this, and if so can we do it for those xm pics. i think that would tell a lot.
Those O&A xm pictures were not part of this geocities mystery... I just threw those images in that folder because it was the lastest folder I was using this week. Forget about those xm image files... they were just thrown in my web folder to post images on this message board.
I probably should have mentioned that before making that raw folder open for public eyes... sorry... my bad.
NoneOnMe
04-15-2004, 09:56 PM
The artist listed in the mp3 files is John Milton. Mean anything to anyone?
NiceHeadDeek
04-15-2004, 09:58 PM
I work in college radio and you can do something like this very easily with a multitrack editor... it used to be harder in the old days but now with a PC and some know-how it's quite easy.
Joe Orthex
04-15-2004, 10:05 PM
it's someone that visits the boards, or at least foundry. that's where the opie in a tree came from.
and the background image. it's mine. well, someone gave it to me and i used it recently (http://oavirus.com/index0000.html) when i changed the look of the site to keep folks out during the change. now at first i thought he may have gotten it from my site, but if he did he changed the background image name to fit the theme of the site.
100 Grand
04-15-2004, 10:21 PM
C'mon, let's not eat beat around the bush.....it's SPAZ!!!:haha7:
mascan42
04-15-2004, 11:06 PM
Hey Paul, I managed to get on the site, and whoever is running the site is giving you props with a link to your own Onatrix site down at the bottom.
jizbag
04-15-2004, 11:18 PM
maybe its me but....im kinda excited with this
BucketofAIDS
04-15-2004, 11:36 PM
If this wasn't an amateur don't you think they would have had a better site. Since its a geocite i think it's an amateur.
BuffaloPaul
04-16-2004, 12:25 AM
If this wasn't an amateur don't you think they would have had a better site. Since its a geocite i think it's an amateur.
I think the whole "Geocities" thing is because they want this stuff to be untraceable. They don't want people to know it's origins... hell as soon as that "BraveStreet.com" video came out... we had info and phone numbers of the people who registered the domain name and everything researched.
The "unknown origins" factor is the key thing about this site!
stubadub
04-16-2004, 12:30 AM
g'damn....i just want em' back.........
Joe Orthex
04-16-2004, 01:01 AM
I think the whole "Geocities" thing is because they want this stuff to be untraceable. They don't want people to know it's origins...
The "unknown origins" factor is the key thing about this site!
good point.
here is something. don't know if it means anything. but i listened to the mp3s and each one has a religious mention in some form. each one mentions church and kinda describes a religious following. something else to pounder.
BuffaloPaul
04-16-2004, 01:19 AM
Hey Paul, I managed to get on the site, and whoever is running the site is giving you props with a link to your own Onatrix site down at the bottom.
I have been trying since midnight to access the page... and NO luck.
I am going to have to pick your brain about this new link addition. Were those 3 links there that "radioguy" updated me with?
www.opieandanthony.com (http://www.opieandanthony.com/)
www.foundrymusic.com (http://www.foundrymusic.com/)
www.eatabullet.com (http://www.eatabullet.com/)
Now did my Onatrix site link appear on the top of these links or the bottom?
Did it link directly to the "flash" page or my "two hand" decision page...
(two hand decision link) http://www.buffnet.net/~paulk/Onatruth.html
(the actual flash page link) http://www.flashbuilder.net/users/onatrix/
Which link was used? And what were the words exactly?
I would have made a link entitled...
ENTER THE ONATRIX (http://www.buffnet.net/~paulk/Onatruth.html)
BuffaloPaul
04-16-2004, 01:26 AM
good point.
here is something. don't know if it means anything. but i listened to the mp3s and each one has a religious mention in some form. each one mentions church and kinda describes a religious following. something else to pounder.
I know Ed...
I have been analyzing the hell out of these clips. The religious overtones, the mood of the clips chosen, and the overall feeling of each clip. The hidden meanings behind such clips... talks of lawyers and contracts... and new representation... all swirl around so quickly.
Once again... a common fan would not think of such things to throw in there. This is shit rattling around in O&A's minds right now... and nobody has access to shit like that but the boys themselves!
Brian 3816
04-16-2004, 01:35 AM
I just got on the site. They have posted a link saying only "ONATRIX" under the 3 links you have on the mirror page. Also they added above the links this.. "(now in NEW WINDOW frames)" The link to your site goes right to the flash page of your site where it starts to count down.
so the links at the bottom look like this now
(now in NEW WINDOW frames)
www.opieandanthony.com (http://www.opieandanthony.com)
www.foundrymusic.com (http://www.foundrymusic.com)
www.eatabullet.com (http://www.eatabullet.com)
ONATRIX (http://www.flashbuilder.net/users/onatrix/)
ShaunC1000
04-16-2004, 01:59 AM
Found something interesting:
"Give me the liberty to know, to utter, and to argue freely according to conscience, above all liberties." --John Milton Its on the top of each page on this site:
http://www.freespeech.com/
I wonder if one of these guys has anything to do with it.
He was an English writter who wrote about the church:
http://www.uark.edu/depts/comminfo/freespeech/milton.html
http://elvis.rowan.edu/~kilroy/JEK/11/08.html
-Maby George Glass isn't Jan's fake boyfriend from the Brady Bunch after all-
he changed his name on his profile back to OA2k4 after we were talking it.. he has to be a member of this forum
T.W.A. Tea
04-16-2004, 05:22 AM
ONATRIX: RETARDED (http://www.geocities.com/oa2k4/ONATRIX1.mp3)
ONATRIX: REVELATIONS (http://www.geocities.com/oa2k4/ONATRIX2.mp3)
ONATRIX: RESURRECTION (http://www.geocities.com/oa2k4/ONATRIX3.mp3)
THROWING YOU A FREAKIN' BONE HERE (COMING NEXT)
And on the 7th day...he rested.
THE ANSWER (COMING MONDAY)
You Have His Word.
I got on at 5:15 and found this
Radioguy
04-16-2004, 05:25 AM
The kit and kaboodle....
Weldhelmet
04-16-2004, 07:31 AM
John Milton - 17th Century author. Most famous literary work, "Paradise Lost"
"Of Mans First Disobedience, and the Fruit
Of that Forbidden Tree, whose mortal taste
Brought Death into the World, and all our woe,
With loss of EDEN, till one greater Man
Restore us,"
http://www.literature.org/authors/milton-john/paradise-lost/chapter-01.html
BuffaloPaul
04-16-2004, 08:08 AM
I just got on the site. They have posted a link saying only "ONATRIX" under the 3 links you have on the mirror page. Also they added above the links this.. "(now in NEW WINDOW frames)" The link to your site goes right to the flash page of your site where it starts to count down.
so the links at the bottom look like this now
(now in NEW WINDOW frames)
www.opieandanthony.com (http://www.opieandanthony.com/)
www.foundrymusic.com (http://www.foundrymusic.com/)
www.eatabullet.com (http://www.eatabullet.com/)
ONATRIX (http://www.flashbuilder.net/users/onatrix/)
The kit and kaboodle....
Ok... I was going to go off on getting mixed reports, here...
Because I got 2 reports of my ONATRIX page being linked, then Radioguy provides me with a zip folder of the site where my link was removed.
The Onatrix link sighting was at 1:30 am, but new things were added after 5am... so I click on the geocities site myself, and found exactly what "radioguy" gave me.
I understand whoever is putting this out wanted to give me props, but it may actually confuse the people visiting the site for real O&A NEW info. It's best to keep these sites seperate right now, so we don't confuse people who are looking for the REAL updates.
Who ever is putting this out... thank-you for the half of day shout out... I do appreciate that... but I do understand you have to keep the message on track.
I will continue to do my thing and "mirror the geocities site" and not get hung up with recognition.
I'm just glad you guys are "throwing us an additional bone" that I take will come out very late Friday night. I also like that you guys announced when "the ANSWER" will appear... MONDAY.... shit that geocities site is going to be pounded that day!
I love the religious reference again...
And on the 7th day...he rested.
There was also a hidden message in the raw HTML file that didn't go un-noticed in my eyes...
<!----He Will Surface And Reveal All Soon----!>
This has such an "EASTER" feel to it... the resurrection of O&A!!! :rockon"
The NEW update has been placed on the ...
"oa2k4 mirror site" (http://www.buffnet.net/~paulk/newONATRIX/oa2k4.html)
...Thanks again, "radioguy" for providing me with that zipped folder!
BuffaloPaul
04-16-2004, 08:18 AM
Found something interesting:
"Give me the liberty to know, to utter, and to argue freely according to conscience, above all liberties." --John Milton Its on the top of each page on this site:
http://www.freespeech.com/
I wonder if one of these guys has anything to do with it.
He was an English writter who wrote about the church:
http://www.uark.edu/depts/comminfo/freespeech/milton.html
http://elvis.rowan.edu/~kilroy/JEK/11/08.html
-Maby George Glass isn't Jan's fake boyfriend from the Brady Bunch after all-
he changed his name on his profile back to OA2k4 after we were talking it.. he has to be a member of this forum
John Milton - 17th Century author. Most famous literary work, "Paradise Lost"
"Of Mans First Disobedience, and the Fruit
Of that Forbidden Tree, whose mortal taste
Brought Death into the World, and all our woe,
With loss of EDEN, till one greater Man
Restore us,"
http://www.literature.org/authors/milton-john/paradise-lost/chapter-01.html
YES... I also thought this "JOHN MILTON" name has much meaning behind it. There are many such quotes that have deep profound meaning to O&A's situation. With the religious overtones in the comeback audio files... along with the name of this 17 Century author... there is something behind that!
Weldhelmet
04-16-2004, 08:29 AM
With the religious overtones in the comeback audio files... along with the name of this 17 Century author... there is something behind that!
Then again it could be some wacko fundie with alot of time on his/her hands.
BuffaloPaul
04-16-2004, 08:52 AM
Then again it could be some wacko fundie with alot of time on his/her hands.Who the hell has had more "time on their hands" than O&A themselves!?! :virus:
Weldhelmet
04-16-2004, 08:58 AM
Point taken,. Wait a minute, you sayin that O&A is a couple of wacko fundies??
heheh :biggrinfl
jpc165
04-16-2004, 08:58 AM
All of this O and A "chatter" is a good sign. The time of the resurrection is near. The empire will strike back with a vengeance. I can't wait for the return of the kings....:bow:
Weldhelmet
04-16-2004, 09:13 AM
All of this O and A "chatter" is a good sign. The time of the resurrection is near. The empire will strike back with a vengeance. I can't wait for the return of the kings....:bow:
__________________
Resistance is futile
Wow,. a Star Wars, LotR, AND Star Trek referance all in one post.
The only geek bigger than the one posting this stuff would be the one recognizing this stuff,.. wait a minute,..
I left out the Die Hard referance cause it wasent geeky enough,.. :hi2:
av8rOC
04-16-2004, 09:46 AM
Perhaps a little premature as usual but Im about to nut. I seriously had goosebumps as I read thorough this thread and think about a potential announcement.
If you guys think Boston, NY and Philly radio sucks come listen to Dallas! Theres a guy called Russ Martin who is treated like JC himself because hes #1 in afternoon drive. Absolutely painful radio. Lets put it this way hes good friends with Tom Leikes. Speaking of we have the pleasure of listening to his show in the evening and if that wasnt a solid enough day of radio programming they cap it off with the Don and Mike show late night.
This radio board and the potential for some O and A updates are the only thing that have kept me from putting a bullet in my head!
Please make this the announcement we have been waiting for!!!!!!!!
APortablePhone
04-16-2004, 12:55 PM
If you guys think Boston, NY and Philly radio sucks come listen to Dallas! Theres a guy called Russ Martin who is treated like JC himself because hes #1 in afternoon drive. Absolutely painful radio. Lets put it this way hes good friends with Tom Leikes. Speaking of we have the pleasure of listening to his show in the evening and if that wasnt a solid enough day of radio programming they cap it off with the Don and Mike show late night.
That is the worst line up I have ever heard. I really pity you everyone else in Dallas. The only thing that could make it worse is "The Limo A & Stalker P Show" in the mornings and K-Dog doing overnights.
Joe Orthex
04-16-2004, 01:31 PM
what i find strange is all the religious tones. it's in the mp3s, it now appeares on the site itself with that line "and on the 7th day..." and (in my opinion) the last 2 matrix movies were loaded with religious overtones and he chose to use the matrix code as his background. i would like to know what the religious refrences mean.
(and a better description of those mp3s is they ar haunting)
fcuknu
04-16-2004, 04:11 PM
I think its just a fan fucking with us. I could easily mix something like that in Sonic Foundry. The only thing is there were a lot of music from the ona soundboards, which would make me believe that it could have come from them. But i could chop up old shows, and plug em in, very simple.
erockradio
04-16-2004, 04:50 PM
Can you? Do one.
You seem to know how it was done.....maybe you're the one! :rolls eyes:
Radioguy
04-16-2004, 04:52 PM
Well, it's keeping us occupied....
If not for this, we'd be rallying in front of Sirius' studios with "Hire them!" signs.....some of us anyway. ;)
fcuknu
04-16-2004, 05:37 PM
Ill try and do one, I odnt have an extensive clip record, but ill do a quick 30 second one.. Ill try
fcuknu
04-16-2004, 06:09 PM
Well, I just took American Hi-fi - Art of Losing, and cut up a few clips of when Caliendo was on the show, and put em in. No bells,no whistles, just to show it can be done very easily. It took me literaly 5 minutes. The clip sounds like crap, but with cleaner clips, and with the stuff he had, I could make the same clip with one lil program, very simply
www.fcuk.nu/oa.mp3
This isn't too hard to do with the right software, it was just really well done, especially the first one.
O and A vs. the World (http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/imasickf/O_and_A_vs._The_World.wav)
fcuknu
04-16-2004, 06:28 PM
i think its the quality which daunts me, and the amount of clips, all those clips, high quality, its opie and anthony doing it!
BuffaloPaul
04-16-2004, 08:20 PM
i think its the quality which daunts me, and the amount of clips, all those clips, high quality, its opie and anthony doing it!Yes... it's becoming unmistakenly OBVIOUS!
I am streaming ALL three of the audio clips back to back along with the "Dice" background sound byte on that Streamer P2P software 24 hours a day from my upstairs computer. It is a constant radio beacon of this NEW message of O&A's return.
It runs along side people who are trying to pick up the live Howard Stern feed, who don't get that show anymore and need to turn to software like this. The title of the feed also becons people to click on it and check it out...
"Opie and Anthony's RETURN <ENTER THE ONATRIX>"
http://www.buffnet.net/~paulk/newONATRIX/OnatrixRadio2.jpg
Just seeing the title... I hope it would peak new listeners curiosity to check out the feed. If they DO click on it, this will come up...
http://www.buffnet.net/~paulk/newONATRIX/OnatrixRadio1.jpg
Now they will be listening the full 10 minutes and 29 seconds of (mp3) files in order, and it will repeat itself over and over again.
I also have the downstairs computer running over 100 of FedExEd's bits back to back on a continuous feed so it's gives them an option to check out the classics of O&A.
This combo... of the past shows... and this stream of what the near future may bring is quite a powerful statement not to be noticed by people using this software.
If you haven't installed this software, yet, maybe this will give you a reason to check it out!
Just follow these simple download and install instructions (http://www.wackbag.com/showthread.php?t=12000)!
CHECK IT OUT! :cool3:
Joe Orthex
04-16-2004, 09:10 PM
i did this Tyson Sweeper (http://oavirus.com/sex-and-the-tyson-b-e.mp3) some time ago using a tyson sound board and some ant/tyson bits from some shows. the audio is sub-par cause i had to reduce the bit rate so it would load easyier and faster. i accidently deleted the original 128bit rate file. and i am no pro.
and a PS here. was thinking about that religious refrence on the site and began to wonder if it was added because it was mentioned on wackbag last night?
BuffaloPaul
04-16-2004, 09:46 PM
and a PS here. was thinking about that religious refrence on the site and began to wonder if it was added because it was mentioned on wackbag last night?
Ed,
Who ever is producing this geocities page is reading this board. I made a suggestion about the HTML code including "new window" tags for the links to other sites...
The only thing I did to the html file was to add "new window" html tags for the hyperlinks to the various websites that were added. If someone clicks on those links a new browser window will open up to go to those sites. You may want to tell the guy who is putting up this geocities page to do that as well!
Low and behold the next day someone posted THIS...
I just got on the site. They have posted a link saying only "ONATRIX" under the 3 links you have on the mirror page. Also they added above the links this.. "(now in NEW WINDOW frames)" The link to your site goes right to the flash page of your site where it starts to count down.
so the links at the bottom look like this now
(now in NEW WINDOW frames)
www.opieandanthony.com (http://www.opieandanthony.com/)
www.foundrymusic.com (http://www.foundrymusic.com/)
www.eatabullet.com (http://www.eatabullet.com/)
ONATRIX (http://www.flashbuilder.net/users/onatrix/)
They took my HTML code suggestion and USED IT!
This is being well orchestrated, and they are now going to give us additional audio, maybe because we have been so responsive with the material they've handed out so far!
Those are just my thoughts about this... anyway! :hi2:
who is "John Milton"? His name comes up as the artist of those 3 mp3's...
BucketofAIDS
04-16-2004, 10:22 PM
John Milton - 17th Century author. Most famous literary work, "Paradise Lost"
"Of Mans First Disobedience, and the Fruit
Of that Forbidden Tree, whose mortal taste
Brought Death into the World, and all our woe,
With loss of EDEN, till one greater Man
Restore us,"
http://www.literature.org/authors/milton-john/paradise-lost/chapter-01.html
Thats the only john milton i have heard of
Joe Orthex
04-16-2004, 10:23 PM
who is "John Milton"? His name comes up as the artist of those 3 mp3's...
It is better to Rule in Hell than to Serve in Heaven
Milton
Paradise Lost
fcuknu
04-16-2004, 10:24 PM
Theres more than on John Milton in the World
Joe Orthex
04-16-2004, 10:26 PM
Theres more than on John Milton in the World
true. but following the running religious theme i think he means this milton, and may be somehow refering to paradise lost. (should have read that book)
oohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... i get it now...
Weldhelmet
04-16-2004, 11:01 PM
true. but following the running religious theme i think he means this milton, and may be somehow refering to paradise lost. (should have read that book)
Paradise lost in one page,. sorta,.
Paradise Lost | One-page Summary
Book I
Book I introduces the main subject matter of the poem: the creation, fall, and redemption of the world and humankind. Milton invokes the aid of the muse and the Holy Spirit as he sets out to perform "Things unattempted yet in Prose or Rhyme," and, through the medium of the epic, to "justify the ways of God to men." In true epic style, Milton begins his story in mid-action (in medias res), after the great battle in Heaven and the fall of the rebel angels. The poem thus introduces its readers first to Satan, the cause of the fall of humankind, at the moment following his own first fall into Hell. Satan and his angels are described lying on a lake of fire in a place where flames cast no light, but only "darkness visible." Satan is the first to rise and, using his great spear as a walking stick, limps to the shore. He then awakens his legions, addressing them in a stirring speech and rousing them to action. He informs them of his hope of regaining Heaven and of the rumor of a new world to be created which they might yet make their own, if heaven be closed to them. He determines to call a full council and sets his host to work to build a suitable palace from which to rule Hell. The result of their efforts is Pandemonium, the palace of Satan, and there the angels of Hell enter to begin their council.
Book II
Book II recounts the council of the demons and their deliberations concerning whether to attempt further battle in order to regain Heaven. Satan invites his minions to speak freely, and Moloch opens the debate, urging open war. Belial, who represents sloth, responds, arguing that battle against a foe who has so decisively defeated them is futile, and proposing that the demons take their ease in Hell and make the best of it. Mammon follows, counselling that they build a new kingdom in Hell and there rule supreme. Beelzebub, Satan's right-hand man, concludes, returning to the suggestion made by Satan in Book I, that they seek out the truth of a rumor about a new world and another creature to be created by God. If the rumor is true, he submits, they should then attempt to seduce God's new creature, Man, and rule on Earth if they cannot regain Heaven. The demons applaud this suggestion and Satan undertakes the dangerous task of searching out this new world. While the rest of the devils (in true epic style) play epic games to vent their grief and occupy themselves in the absence of their leader, Satan sets out alone. He travels to the gates of Hell, which he finds closed and guarded by Sin (his daughter) and Death (the son of their incestuous union). Satan persuades them to open the gates by offering the world to Sin to rule with him, and humankind to Death. He then makes the arduous journey through Chaos to the new world which he seeks.
Book III
Book III moves the action to Heaven, where God, sitting on his throne, sees Satan flying towards the world. God tells his Son of Satan's diabolical plan to seduce humankind, foretelling Satan's success and simultaneously clearing himself of blame. He contends that humankind was created free and able to withstand temptation, yet outlines his purpose of allowing humankind grace, since they will fall, not out of malice, as Satan did, but deceived. This grace, however, cannot be achieved unless divine justice is satisfied, and the Son freely offers himself as a ransom for this purpose. God then ordains the Incarnation, and all the hosts of heavenly angels praise and adore the Son. Meanwhile, Satan has reached the world's outermost sphere, where he finds a place called the Limbo of Vanity. He moves up to the Gate of Heaven and passes from there to the Orb of the Sun, where he encounters Uriel, the regent of that orb. He changes himself into the shape of a lesser angel and approaches Uriel, professing a great desire to behold the new creation and the human creature placed therein. Uriel, deceived by his disguise, directs him to the newly created world.
Book IV
Book IV returns to the quest of Satan who, as he approaches the Paradise of Eden, is beset by doubt, fear, envy, and despair. His confidence soon returns however, and, confirmed in his evil purpose, he journeys on to Paradise. The reader's first view of Paradise is thus seen through Satan's eyes. The Garden and Satan's first sight of its inhabitants are described as he sits in the shape of a cormorant on the Tree of Life (the highest tree in the Garden) and looks around him. Overhearing a conversation between Adam and Eve, Satan learns that they are forbidden to eat fruit from the Tree of Knowledge, on pain of death. This provides Satan with a plan for their destruction. Meanwhile Uriel, observing Satan's earlier struggle with himself, has seen through his disguise. He warns Gabriel, the guardian of the Gate of Paradise, that trouble is afoot, and Gabriel promises to find Satan by morning. Evening descends, and Adam and Eve retire to their rest after performing their evening worship. Gabriel appoints two angels to watch over Adam and Eve's bower, where they discover Satan (in the form of a toad) whispering into Eve's ear and tempting her in a dream. They bring him to Gabriel, who questions him. Satan answers scornfully and seems ready to resist, but at a sign from Heaven he decides to flee instead.
Book V
Morning arrives and Eve tells Adam of her troubling dream. Disturbed, he comforts her, and they proceed to their morning worship. In order to deprive them of any excuse for transgression, God sends Raphael to remind Adam of his freedom and the necessity for obedience, and to warn him of Satan's plan. As Adam and Raphael enjoy a meal of choice fruits prepared by Eve, Raphael tells Adam of Satan's rebellion and how he incited all the angel Legions of the North to join him, with the sole exception of Abdiel, a seraph who had tried to dissuade him and, failing, had forsaken him.
Book VI
In Book VI Raphael continues the story of Satan's revolt in Heaven, which was prompted by his envy of the Son. Raphael relates how Michael and Gabriel fought against Satan for two days. On the first day, Satan is routed, but under the cover of night convenes a council and invents some "devilish Engines," including gunpowder, which his armies introduce on the second day. These cause considerable disorder amongst Michael and his angels, but they manage to overwhelm the forces of Satan by pulling up mountains. The battle is not yet won, however, and on the third day God sends his Son (the Messiah) into the fray. The Son drives into the midst of the enemy force with his chariot and thunder, pursuing them to the wall of Heaven, through which they leap down with horror and confusion into the Deep (a place which has been prepared for their punishment). The Messiah then returns in triumph to his Father.
Book VII
At Adam's request, Raphael continues his tale with the story of the creation of the world. He explains that, after the expulsion of Satan and his angels from Heaven, God wishes to repopulate Heaven. Rather than create more angels, God decides to create another world and other creatures to dwell in it. He therefore sends his Son with attendant angels to perform the work of Creation, which the Son accomplishes in six days. The angels celebrate creation with hymns, and return with the Son to Heaven.
Book VIII
Raphael's tale being ended, Adam seeks to satisfy his thirst for knowledge and inquires about the movements of the heavenly bodies. Raphael, while conceding that Heaven is a veritable book in which Adam can read the wondrous works of God, admonishes Adam concerning the limitations of knowledge and advises him to seek out knowledge which is more worthwhile. Adam agrees, and, in his turn, tells Raphael all that he can remember since his own creation: his being placed in Paradise, his talk with God, his first meeting and marriage with Eve. After a discussion of Adam's relationship with Eve, Raphael departs with a final warning.
Book IX
Satan returns to Eden by night as a mist, and enters into the sleeping serpent. In the morning Adam and Eve go out to their labor in the garden. Eve suggests that they would work more efficiently apart, but Adam expresses concern that the enemy of which they have been warned might harm her if he found her alone. Eve does not wish to be thought weak, and insists on working apart, and Adam gives in to her. Satan, in the form of the serpent, finding her alone, is momentarily struck dumb by her beauty. He proceeds to flatter her, praising her beauty and charm. Eve wonders at his ability to speak, and he explains that he attained both speech and reason by eating the fruit of a certain tree. Eve asks to be shown the tree, but when she finds that it is the Tree of Knowledge she asserts that eating of its fruit is forbidden. The serpent, after many arguments, persuades her to eat. Pleased with the taste, she debates whether or not to take the fruit to Adam, but eventually decides to do so and repeats the arguments by which she was persuaded to eat. Adam is not deceived, but seeing that she is lost, resolves to perish with her because he loves her too much to live without her. He eats the fruit, and the consequences are dire. Their first response is lust, followed by shame. After covering themselves, they begin to argue and to blame each other.
Book X
The angels who are guarding Paradise return to Heaven, to be absolved by God of any responsibility for the fall of Adam and Eve, which they could not have prevented. God then sends the Son to judge Adam and Eve. Sin and Death, who have been waiting by the gates of Hell, are aware of Satan's success and decide to follow Satan up to the world. In order to make the journey easier, they pave a bridge over Chaos, from Hell to the world. Satan, meanwhile, returns to Hell and boasts of his success to the assembly of his angels in Pandemonium. Instead of applause, however, his tale is received with a "universal hiss," as he and his angels are transformed into serpents, according to the judgement pronounced upon him in Paradise by the Son. Deluded by a mirage of the forbidden tree, they devour the fruit, only to find themselves chewing on dust and ashes. Sin and Death having arrived in the world, God foretells their final defeat at the hands of the Son, but in the meantime commands certain alterations to take place in the heavens. Adam and Eve lament their fallen condition and Eve tries to comfort Adam. He at first refuses her consolation, but eventually he is appeased and they reconcile. She suggests several violent ways of evading the Curse pronounced upon them and their offspring, but he resists and counsels hope, reminding her of the promise that revenge against the serpent would be given through her offspring. They seek peace with God through repentance and supplication.
Book XI
Hearing the prayers of Adam and Eve, the Son intercedes with God on their behalf. God accepts their prayers, but decrees that they can no longer live in Paradise and sends Michael with a band of cherubim to cast them out. Adam sees Michael coming and goes out to greet him. Upon hearing that they must leave, Eve laments and Adam pleads, but eventually they submit. Before removing them from Eden, however, Michael takes Adam up to a high hill and reveals to him in a vision all that will happen until the Flood of Noah's age.
Book XII
Michael continues his story of things to come, moving from the Flood to Abraham and then to Christ. He explains that Christ will be the Seed of the Woman who was promised to Adam and Eve at their fall, and that his Incarnation, Death, Resurrection, and Ascension will inaugurate the salvation of humankind. Michael then describes the Age of the Church until the Second Coming of Christ. Adam is comforted by these revelations and returns to Eve, who has been sleeping. She wakes from gentle dreams, refreshed and composed. Michael takes them by the hand and leads them out of Paradise, setting a fiery sword and cherubim to guard the gates. Adam and Eve pause for a moment, looking back and shedding some ''natural tears'' at the loss of Paradise. The reader's last view of Adam and Eve is, however, a hopeful one as they dry their tears and walk away, hand in hand, the whole world before them and Providence as their guide.
Spreading culture where ever I go,.. damn,. beer's empty..
Joe Orthex
04-16-2004, 11:19 PM
i'm not gonna read that unless theres a good sex scene in there somewhere.
LOGAN
04-17-2004, 02:09 AM
this sounds alot like the john titor thing. :)
saturn422
04-17-2004, 04:59 AM
Hi All, 4th mp3 is up, pretty much blasted Paul Mercurio... did anyone else check out the source code of the page? Noticed this at the bottom...
<!----He Will Surface And Reveal All Soon----!>
<!----He's had his face in it since day one. ahhhh wooooooo. C'mon----!>
I sent an email to the address listed as well...
Mean anything to anyone?
BuffaloPaul
04-17-2004, 06:16 AM
Hi All, 4th mp3 is up, pretty much blasted Paul Mercurio... did anyone else check out the source code of the page? Noticed this at the bottom...
<!----He Will Surface And Reveal All Soon----!>
<!----He's had his face in it since day one. ahhhh wooooooo. C'mon----!>
I sent an email to the address listed as well...
Mean anything to anyone?
Did you pull the 4th mp3 off the page? (Do you at least have the files name?) So I can try and add it to the URL of the site, and pull it using the direct URL of that file. I tried this...
http://www.geocities.com/oa2k4/ONATRIX4.mp3
...but realized they could have named this special "throwing us a freaken bone" mp3 something different, and the "ONATRIX4" file is still "THE ANSWER" we have been waiting for.
So Saturn422... give us something here... I noticed that first statement hidden in yesterday's page and emailed that address as well, but have gotten no reply after close to 24 hours. Now this second quote has been added, you say...
<!----He's had his face in it since day one. ahhhh wooooooo. C'mon----!>
Who do you think they are refering to? You say the clip was about Mecurio?
Riddles wrapped within riddles... come on... we should be able to figure this shit out!?!
I KEEP CHECKING FOUNDRY FOR THE ZIPPED FILE... BUT NOTHING YET!
I CALL... NOBODY POST REVIEWS ABOUT THESE NEW CLIPS, UNLESS THEY HAVE A WAY OF SHARING THE CLIP WITH THE REST OF US!
Now were all going to scramble to get the clip and the site is going to be pounded. So... pull at least the MP3 file before discussing it and give it to foundry to share with us!
T.W.A. Tea
04-17-2004, 08:34 AM
I just pulled the mp3 and sent it to steve @ foundry
BuffaloPaul
04-17-2004, 08:56 AM
I just pulled the mp3 and sent it to steve @ foundry
Is there anyway you can send it directly to me?
Steve may be sleeping in... and I could put it up on my mirror site IMMEDIATELY!
Send it to:
paulk@buffnet.net
or if buffnet placed some spam filters on so I will not receive zipped files because of past virus shit...
try this email...
oabuffalopaul@adelphia.net
SEND IT TO THOSE ADDRESSES NOW!
BuffaloPaul
04-17-2004, 09:15 AM
I just pulled the mp3 and sent it to steve @ foundry
Another thing... maybe you should have sent it to "Jeff @ foundry" instead...
http://www.foundrymusic.com/images/character_thumbnails/fmjeff.gif
XM or SIRIUS? WHAT THE HECK IS THIS?!? - UPDATED ONCE AGAIN!!!Story took place on April 12, 2004Reported by FMJEFF
Updated 4-15-2004: The third of three of these Matrix-y clips was added this morning to that crash-fest Geocities site...It's kind of anti-climatic (just like the third Matrix movie was...and therein lies the joke, I believe), (repost all you want, but please no hot-linking)
Joe Orthex
04-17-2004, 09:37 AM
paul, do you by chance still have the original page? when it was first found and before he made any noticable changes to it? would like to see it.
BuffaloPaul
04-17-2004, 09:47 AM
I just pulled the mp3 and sent it to steve @ foundryNever mind sending me that MP3 file "T.W.A. Tea"...
I was able to pull "that bone" from the geocities site myself on my upstairs computer. It is a little faster and was able to grab the clip at lighning speed. I was doing all kinds of things to try and pull this file in. "Radioguy" had mentioned special "download excellerator" programs which I downloaded and tried with NO luck.
Then I just decided to right mouse click on the main site and I pulled in the (html) file at least. Was able to find the file name, and pulled that in as well using a direct link connection and (right mouse clicking on it, and choosing the "Save Target As..." option to pull it quickly to my computer. No special software was needed using my better upstairs computer.
So... my mirror site has been updated with this 4th clip... CHECK IT OUT...
oa2k4 mirror site (http://www.buffnet.net/~paulk/newONATRIX/oa2k4.html)
... and let's discuss what this new audio means... are the boys this pissed at Mecurio?
fcuknu
04-17-2004, 09:59 AM
It means what all of us have thought since day one, paul is a cocksucker
BuffaloPaul
04-17-2004, 10:06 AM
It means what all of us have thought since day one, paul is a cocksucker
That's Paul Mecurio... starting a new page here... people may think that comment was focused at another Paul! :xyxthumbs
Joe Orthex
04-17-2004, 10:07 AM
2 things about that clip. why dose it start with BTLS? mean anything?
and that sam clip. where is it from. i don't ever remember jim cook inviting everyone but paul to the breuery. but it could have been a show i missed.
either hidden meanings or a wack job having fun with us.
Ballbuster1
04-17-2004, 10:08 AM
That's Paul Mecurio... starting a new page here... people may think that comment was focused at another Paul! :xyxthumbs yeah, i just saw that too, went back a page and figured it out.
T.W.A. Tea
04-17-2004, 10:14 AM
can you believe these assholes have us spending our weekend looking foward to Monday!!!!!!!!
Joe Orthex
04-17-2004, 10:16 AM
was just going over a show and heard something. might mean nothing. but the site says "and on the 7th he rested" and in a show outro opie says "and on the 8th day god said let there be breasts". the 8th day would be monday right?
sorry, reading to much into the religion thing.
Weldhelmet
04-17-2004, 10:43 AM
I don't know if this is old news, so I'll throw it out here anyway,.
Anyone look at the "properties" of these .mp3s ?? The 3rd one was interesting.
http://www.angelfire.com/ego2/weldhelmet/Image1.jpg
rick0926
04-17-2004, 10:45 AM
2 things about that clip. why dose it start with BTLS? mean anything?
and that sam clip. where is it from. i don't ever remember jim cook inviting everyone but paul to the breuery. but it could have been a show i missed.
either hidden meanings or a wack job having fun with us.
To me, it means they will be on the same channel as BTLS. Both are rumored to go to satellite. Sirius announced last year they wanted to start a male oriented talk/comedy channel. I say it means Sirius gets O&A and BTLS....and they will be part of this new channel.
As for the Sam clip, i'll have to listen to SFS3 again, but I thought that clip was from the end of that show.
rick0926
04-17-2004, 11:00 AM
I just listened to the end of SFS3...The clip came from right before the show eneded, about 6 minutes before.
Joe Orthex
04-17-2004, 11:04 AM
since i am here playing with my own geocities site i was able to get to the mystry site and saved it. now is it me or the background sound don't play? it dosn't work for me with the geo site or yours paul. anyway i managed to get the dice sound working and it plays when loaded. the dice bit seems to go in context with the site, not just something that was randomly picked, and should be included with the site.
oavirus.com/oa2k (http://oavirus.com/oa2k/)
this is how i saved it at 10:50am today (sat), and like paul i removed that geocities crap from the top right corner.
BuffaloPaul
04-17-2004, 11:05 AM
paul, do you by chance still have the original page? when it was first found and before he made any noticable changes to it? would like to see it.
Ed,
I had to work on finding all the versions of this I had on my computer. I was able to find 3 older versions. I'll start off with the oldest version first and give it to you to the most recent outdated version...
OLD1oa2k4.html (http://www.buffnet.net/~paulk/newONATRIX/OLD1oa2k4.html)
OLD2oa2k4.html (http://www.buffnet.net/~paulk/newONATRIX/OLD2oa2k4.html)
OLD3oa2k4.html (http://www.buffnet.net/~paulk/newONATRIX/OLD3oa2k4.html)
Now all you you have to is click on those links and choose the "View"... "Source" option on your browser pull down menu to view the raw html of each version of the page.
I hope that anawers some questions you may have, Ed! :xyxthumbs
robification
04-17-2004, 11:32 AM
long live the paul.... thank you for your mirroringness and stuff.... you sure do make things a lot easier for all
peewee
04-17-2004, 12:08 PM
i second that, i havn't been able to get on the geocities website, but thanks to you i haven't missed an update yet.
BucketofAIDS
04-17-2004, 12:28 PM
i don't ever remember jim cook inviting everyone but paul to the breuery. but it could have been a show i missed.
I just listened to S4S3 yesterday and jim cook did invite everyone but paul to the breuery.
BuffaloPaul
04-17-2004, 12:51 PM
since i am here playing with my own geocities site i was able to get to the mystry site and saved it. now is it me or the background sound don't play? it dosn't work for me with the geo site or yours paul. anyway i managed to get the dice sound working and it plays when loaded. the dice bit seems to go in context with the site, not just something that was randomly picked, and should be included with the site.
oavirus.com/oa2k (http://oavirus.com/oa2k/)
this is how i saved it at 10:50am today (sat), and like paul i removed that geocities crap from the top right corner.
Ed,
Your background (Dice clip) played just fine on my computer!
This is GREAT... now we have TWO mirror sites to go to!!
Thanks ED!:madfire
:virus:The NEW O&A message is really spreading NOW!!! :cdude:
LOGAN
04-17-2004, 01:08 PM
i actually manged to hit the actual sight for the first time today . someone definelty doesnt like mecurio.
BuffaloPaul
04-17-2004, 01:22 PM
I don't know if this is old news, so I'll throw it out here anyway,.
Anyone look at the "properties" of these .mp3s ?? The 3rd one was interesting.
http://www.angelfire.com/ego2/weldhelmet/Image1.jpgNice find Weldhelmet!
I had to go look at the "properties" of each audio file after I seen this.
Once again... another riddle wrapped in a riddle!
What the fuck do you think is going to happen on Monday?
Do you think it could be an actual "press conference"? Or just the release of another audio file?
Someone told me there was going to be a "solar eclipse" on Monday... and when I asked him what time it was going to occur... he said it wasn't going to happen around here (in the US)... in south africa or something like that. I am just throwing some real bizarre thoughts out there now... them timing it for the exact time of a solar eclipse is really in left field... but this damn audio has me thinking in fucked up ways!
*EDIT*
I just found some info about this Solar Eclipse... I know it's over the top shit... but I will post it anyway...
2004 Apr 19: Partial Solar Eclipse (http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse/SEplot/SEplot2001/SE2004Apr19P.gif)
The first solar eclipse of 2004 is a southern hemisphere event visible from southern Africa and parts of Antarctica (Figure 1 (http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse/SEplot/SEplot2001/SE2004Apr19P.gif)). Greatest eclipse takes place at 13:34:01 UT when the eclipse magnitude will reach 0.7357. The contact times of the Moon's penumbral shadow with Earth are as follows:
Partial Eclipse Begins: 11:29:55 UT Partial Eclipse Ends: 15:38:36 UT
Local circumstances for a number of cities are given in Table 1 (http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse/OH/LC/LC2004.html#2004Apr19P). All times are provided in Universal Time. Sun's altitude and azimuth, the eclipse magnitude and obscuration are all listed for the instant of maximum eclipse. This is the 65th eclipse of Saros series 119, an old series which produced its last central eclipse (annular) on 1950 Mar 18. The series will continue to produce partial eclipses of decreasing magnitude until the final event on 2112 Jun 24.
http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse/OH/OH2004.html
Stingray
04-17-2004, 01:37 PM
I dont know if this has been posted before, I looked at the source code from fedexeds mirror site there are a few lines in the code that are commented out.. meaning they dont show up on the actual page.
<!----Zerosignl2@earthlink.com----!>
<!----He Will Surface And Reveal All Soon----!>
<!----He's had his face in it since day one. ahhhh wooooooo. C'mon----!>
peewee
04-17-2004, 01:41 PM
time to start flooding the e-mails
Joe Orthex
04-17-2004, 01:42 PM
i had to open and resave the bg sound in my sound editor to get it to play. the one on the mystry site dosen't play for me. neither dose the one on your mirror paul. not sure why.
so jim cook did say that. was not sure if it was really him or an impresionist or an old clip.
and on a side note, that 4th clip is the first to have no religious refrances.
peewee
04-17-2004, 01:44 PM
those clips confuse the hell out of me!
Joe Orthex
04-17-2004, 01:53 PM
...there are a few lines in the code that are commented out.. meaning they dont show up on the actual page.
that's why i wanted to see the original pages before he did anything to them. i sometimes do that if i need to remember an addy to use at a remote pc or to give props and plugs with out doing them out right, or notes and stuff when not at the home pc and i don't want it to get in the way of a page. if i can use it to put up hidden messages why not someone else.
definatly a good idea to keep an eye on the source code.
stubadub
04-17-2004, 03:07 PM
my head hurts!!!
BuffaloPaul
04-17-2004, 03:22 PM
those clips confuse the hell out of me!
my head hurts!!!
Try listening to them with headphones... some of the audio goes from one ear to the other... it sounds pretty fucking :biggrinea eerie (sp?).
MAVRIC305
04-17-2004, 05:34 PM
It's me all right! I was just bullshitting... I know nothing....
mascan42
04-17-2004, 08:00 PM
I can't believe that it's actually O&A doing this . . . yeah, they might have used Geocities so it's untraceable, but why wouldn't they shell out the $7 a month to increase the bandwidth, so we can actually get on the site? Doesn't make sense.
robification
04-17-2004, 08:30 PM
I can't believe that it's actually O&A doing this . . . yeah, they might have used Geocities so it's untraceable, but why wouldn't they shell out the $7 a month to increase the bandwidth, so we can actually get on the site? Doesn't make sense.
(playing devils advocate)
to make it look like one of us?
maybe it's really a tomato fucker trying to get recognition?
maybe they cant afford it because their new place isnt paying them as much?
BuffaloPaul
04-17-2004, 08:40 PM
was just going over a show and heard something. might mean nothing. but the site says "and on the 7th he rested" and in a show outro opie says "and on the 8th day god said let there be breasts". the 8th day would be monday right?
sorry, reading to much into the religion thing.Ed,
One more note about this "religious theme", obviously the whole sex in the church, and the Catholic church being outraged and feeling they had a victory in getting O&A pulled off the airwaves is one reason for the religious overtones.
I posted something months ago... I think it was when the last Matrix movie came out last Fall and people were a bit disappointed with it. That weekend when I went to see it, I took my son to his rollerhockey game in a small town in the northern most point of WNY, and I found this green pamphlet on the ground where I parked. I thought it was an advertisement for the latest Matrix movie that was just coming out in theatres... but it was something totally different...
http://www.buffnet.net/~paulk/neo1.jpg
This is a scan of the actual cover of the small pamphlet. However when I opened it up I was hit with a very religious message...
(Check it out... but make sure you expand it to full image size to read it)...
Front page (http://www.buffnet.net/~paulk/neo2.jpg)
Back page (http://www.buffnet.net/~paulk/neo3.jpg)
I found it quite humorous that this group of religious fanatics were using the theme of the "Matrix" to spread their religious message. It was in stark contrast to when I watch the 2nd Matrix movie with that email that Opie sent to a fan floating around in my brain as I watched the movie. The guy who wrote this pamphlet probably saw "Jesus" as the Neo character... but all I saw was "Opie" as the main character... and the "OnAtrix" was created. Pretty fucked up how one film could cause such ratically different outcomes and messages!
If "John Milton" was still alive, I bet he could have wrote a couple books on this subject! :pc2:
av8rOC
04-17-2004, 08:58 PM
Theres a good book I read called the gospel reloaded
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1576834786/ref=pd_sim_books_2/102-0416768-4713725?v=glance&s=books
The Wakowski Brothers absolutely wrote the matrix loosely based on the story of Jesus Christ but in an anti organized religion fashion. The matrix itself is a metaphor for organized religion. I thought it was interesting stuff.
Funny though yes that an organized religion is using the movie without realizing the irony.
BuffaloPaul
04-17-2004, 09:22 PM
Theres a good book I read called the gospel reloaded
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1576834786/ref=pd_sim_books_2/102-0416768-4713725?v=glance&s=books
The Wakowski Brothers absolutely wrote the matrix loosely based on the story of Jesus Christ but in an anti organized religion fashion. The matrix itself is a metaphor for organized religion. I thought it was interesting stuff.
Funny though yes that an organized religion is using the movie without realizing the irony.I'll have to check that book out V.L.S...
It looked like many interesting review statements on that page concerning this subject. I also find it interesting that you are from "Dallas, Texas" and if you look at the fine print on the back page, this religious pamphlet was also printed in "Texas". Also... a side note, this small town I spoke of, had a religious cult of chinese people move there a few years back, because they said they were told by god to move there. This chinese religious cult was from Texas, and they weren't too hard to spot... the only chinese people wearing ten gallon hats... I kid you not. I always thought it must have been these religious fanatics that must have dropped this pamphlet.
So... V.L.S.... are you one of these chinese cult members left behind in Texas? :cool7:
Joe Orthex
04-18-2004, 01:10 AM
i can understand the religious undertones being connected with s4S and st. pats, it's just that this person seems to be making sure to include some type of religious refrance, and it's not just about the whole s4s3 things. it gives me the impersion that there will be a second coming...or is it third coming?
satan had gathered an army only to be cast out of heaven. he took his minions and resided in hell where he is now a major opposition to heaven. could another such force be ready and waiting to take over as of yet unknown and un named domain? could it be possiable that this force once settled into it's new home may have a battle, maybe a war, planned to be wagged? but then the war has been started, an unbalanced war where the opposing side is moving forward unhindered. could it be that this force will rise to fight this juggernaut? the 7th day is here. he rest and gathers his strength for the coming battle?
one thing i learned about geocities, is that if someone is interested in seeing and getting the site and it's contents they will keep trying till they get it. if the site is for real and is run by someone among us, or at least someone that is overlooking us, then the site can very well be a sign. can it be the final sign that many have been waiting for? we may know when the planets are aligned.
T.W.A. Tea
04-18-2004, 01:40 AM
(playing devils advocate)
to make it look like one of us?
maybe it's really a tomato fucker trying to get recognition?
maybe they cant afford it because their new place isnt paying them as much?
I thought the same thing when I saw this
He Will Surface And Reveal All Soon----!>
<!----He's had his face in it since day one. ahhhh wooooooo. C'mon----!>
the c'mon clip they always played was him
THis is too funny. These clips have everybody talking all deep and philosophical. While O and A or a little more than dick and fart jokes, they're not usually the deepest two on the planet.
BuffaloPaul
04-18-2004, 06:34 AM
(playing devils advocate)
to make it look like one of us?
maybe it's really a tomato fucker trying to get recognition?
maybe they cant afford it because their new place isnt paying them as much?
I thought the same thing when I saw this
He Will Surface And Reveal All Soon----!>
<!----He's had his face in it since day one. ahhhh wooooooo. C'mon----!>
the c'mon clip they always played was him
Rob,
The only "tomato fucker" I know of is Spaz... are you trying to say this is the old "K-dog" getting the last laugh?
I've heard the "K-dog" audition tapes... you could probably get some serious odds in Vegas on that bet.
Now... T.W.A,
The "c'mon clip"... that has always been that jackass "Tom Leykis" from the west coast. Are YOU saying he may have pulled this off? Why the fuck would he create something like this for a couple of guys who tooled on him BIG time...
[Lick-ass]"C'monnnnnn!"[/Lick-ass]
Has Tom had "his face in it since day one"?... I know he tried to throw his wife's face into the fireplace... but I don't remember HIS face being "in it" unless there are some old Boston ties I know nothing about.:idiot:
av8rOC
04-18-2004, 09:42 AM
I'll have to check that book out V.L.S...
It looked like many interesting review statements on that page concerning this subject. I also find it interesting that you are from "Dallas, Texas" and if you look at the fine print on the back page, this religious pamphlet was also printed in "Texas". Also... a side note, this small town I spoke of, had a religious cult of chinese people move there a few years back, because they said they were told by god to move there. This chinese religious cult was from Texas, and they weren't too hard to spot... the only chinese people wearing ten gallon hats... I kid you not. I always thought it must have been these religious fanatics that must have dropped this pamphlet.
So... V.L.S.... are you one of these chinese cult members left behind in Texas? :cool7:
LMAO no not at all. Im actually from Long Island but my persuit of an aviation career has brought be to Dallas temporarily. I just really liked the matrix films and wanted to read as much as I could about the depth of the strory.
I think Ed has the religious themes in the clips nailed. The boys will be "resurrected" fromt the deal so to speak. I certainly hope hes right about the 7th day possibly revealing the "sign we have all been waiting for", but Im not holding my breath.
Something tells me that O&A wouldnt announce their triumphant return after so long via a crappy ass geocities site.
Sean
rick0926
04-18-2004, 09:57 AM
satan had gathered an army only to be cast out of heaven. he took his minions and resided in hell where he is now a major opposition to heaven. could another such force be ready and waiting to take over as of yet unknown and un named domain? could it be possiable that this force once settled into it's new home may have a battle, maybe a war, planned to be wagged? but then the war has been started, an unbalanced war where the opposing side is moving forward unhindered. could it be that this force will rise to fight this juggernaut? the 7th day is here. he rest and gathers his strength for the coming battle?
one thing i learned about geocities, is that if someone is interested in seeing and getting the site and it's contents they will keep trying till they get it. if the site is for real and is run by someone among us, or at least someone that is overlooking us, then the site can very well be a sign. can it be the final sign that many have been waiting for? we may know when the planets are aligned.
Wow, this is too much for me. We are still talking about my favorite radio show coming back right?
bigdaddyb
04-18-2004, 10:42 AM
The artist listed in the mp3 files is John Milton. Mean anything to anyone?
wasn't that one of the names Opie used when he made phony phone calls?
either way this is cool shit and is getting me pumped for thier return
bring on the cringe radio!!!!
robification
04-18-2004, 11:00 AM
Rob,
The only "tomato fucker" I know of is Spaz... are you trying to say this is the old "K-dog" getting the last laugh?
I've heard the "K-dog" audition tapes... you could probably get some serious odds in Vegas on that bet.
Now... T.W.A,
The "c'mon clip"... that has always been that jackass "Tom Leykis" from the west coast. Are YOU saying he may have pulled this off? Why the fuck would he create something like this for a couple of guys who tooled on him BIG time...
[Lick-ass]"C'monnnnnn!"[/Lick-ass]
Has Tom had "his face in it since day one"?... I know he tried to throw his wife's face into the fireplace... but I don't remember HIS face being "in it" unless there are some old Boston ties I know nothing about.:idiot:
just playing devil's advocate... i know about as much as you
there were 2 c'mon sounds from the show..... one is lickass and the other fucks tomatos. here's what made me think of that douche, spaz....
<!!----Zerosignl2@earthlink.com (----Zerosignl2@earthlink.com)----!>
<!----He Will Surface And Reveal All Soon----!>
<!----He's had his face in it since day one. ahhhh wooooooo. C'mon---
and now.... it's time for k-dog's WEEK in review.... ahhhhh woooooooooo
Joe Orthex
04-18-2004, 11:17 AM
Something tells me that O&A wouldnt announce their triumphant return after so long via a crappy ass geocities site.
if the site is legit i don't think they will use it to announce the return either. it could be an arrow pointing in the right direction when the time is right.
T.W.A. Tea
04-18-2004, 11:26 AM
Paul,
the quick c'mon clip is the tomato fucker yelling at his junk
AGNY83
04-18-2004, 12:27 PM
anyone else think that way too much is being read into this? I doubt paradise lost and the new testament could tell us whether they are going to XM or Sirius..
-AG
cringebox
04-18-2004, 12:48 PM
if the site is legit i don't think they will use it to announce the return either. it could be an arrow pointing in the right direction when the time is right.
I think you're right. They probably can't make any announcement due to their contract, but they still need to get the word out ahead of time, and this got everyones' attention.
robification
04-18-2004, 01:07 PM
no no no no...... they mentioned it at the roast...... CB channel 19.... get CB equipment
Maybe it'll be Sirius. Someone did say their Gay channel is #1 with truckers.
Diamond Dust returns...in 43 days! :p
xoxoxo,
Rev
T Brokenjaw
04-18-2004, 03:36 PM
Man I love It.
Its either someone connected to the show or an obsessed fan. I mean all the news cuts that were in the mp3s. Some one had to collect all the clips and edit them. I know were kind of obsessed collecting all the shows and bits we can but thats different. Are those news clips floating around on the net?
As far as it being on geocities that makes sense. If it were coming from foundry or ona or someone else connected to the show and has info on It that could get them in trouble. I know I wouldn't want to get sued. Worse that could happen to the geocities site. Is it will be shut down. Untraceable.
Im probably wrong but I had to get my 2 cents in. :liljim:
wad2k
04-18-2004, 05:35 PM
Pretty obvious that this site is not from "our world"....The clues give it away..
<!----He Will Surface And Reveal All Soon----!>
<!----He's had his face in it since day one. ahhhh wooooooo. C'mon----!>
All the religous references...
My guess as far as who is behind it....
Brian Florence
and he recruited John Milton to help him spread the word.....
Joe Orthex
04-18-2004, 06:08 PM
<!----He's had his face in it since day one. ahhhh wooooooo. C'mon----!>
he's had his FACE, not his hand, not a part, but had his FACE in it. so who has had his "FACE" in it since day one?
*edited to add more*
and when was day 1? was it back in boston? was it june 26 1998? or was it when talk died at wnew?
Joe Orthex
04-18-2004, 06:49 PM
i have a question. who found the site? how was it discovered?
I'm not positive, but I think it was linked on opieandanthony.com before anybody on the board found it.
Joe Orthex
04-18-2004, 10:09 PM
I'm not positive, but I think it was linked on opieandanthony.com before anybody on the board found it.
i belive your right. but before i open my mouth i wanted to know for sure.
Vinman
04-18-2004, 10:23 PM
I think it's going to be a site to get all the old shows.
But I could be wrong
robification
04-18-2004, 10:36 PM
I think it's going to be a site to get all the old shows.
But I could be wrong
would do no good considering it cant handle ANY bandwidth
Is it monday yet? Jesus christ, whoever it is, tomorrows clip better not be a letdown.
T Brokenjaw
04-18-2004, 11:43 PM
The owner of the geocities site should get a tripod.uk (http://www.tripod.lycos.co.uk/taketour/) site. It's free 50 megs of space and unlimited bandwidth.
The only thing is the stupid google frame on the side, but who cares at least it wont go down.
BuffaloPaul
04-18-2004, 11:47 PM
Is it monday yet? Jesus christ, whoever it is, tomorrows clip better not be a letdown.
Are you sure we are looking for a clip?
I thought we were looking for the second coming...
:hippie: "Jesus Christ" himself at a press conference!:angel:
av8rOC
04-18-2004, 11:49 PM
Are you sure we are looking for a clip?
I thought we were looking for the second coming...
:hippie: "Jesus Christ" himself at a press conference!:angel:
LOL!
robification
04-18-2004, 11:55 PM
honestly, i'm not expecting anything special tomorrow(or are we 6 minutes away?)
dont get me wrong.... i AM curious.... but i dont believe we're looking at an anouncement tomorrow
Joe Orthex
04-19-2004, 12:22 AM
12:30 and the planets have not aligend yet. be patiant.(sp), there are 23.5 hours left today. plenty of time to see the "third" coming. (read your history books folks(or bible) :-)
peewee
04-19-2004, 12:56 AM
i can't wait any longer... i don't think it is going to be anything big... but i still can't wait
mascan42
04-19-2004, 01:02 AM
Has anyone tried doing a reverse search on that email address that was in the source code?
robification
04-19-2004, 01:15 AM
i can't wait any longer... i don't think it is going to be anything big... but i still can't wait
even with no new info, the site wont stay up for more than 10 minutes at a time.... whoever gets it, please copy the source code and send it to someone like paul or ed along with a copy of whatever new file so it can be shared with others
to copy the source code, in internet explorer, hit view then source.... the notpad page that pops up is what's need to create the mirror site.... so file then save and email it one of those two people.... please
peewee
04-19-2004, 01:21 AM
yeah, i haven't been able to get on the site once. but thanks to ed and paul i have seen every version. i would like to thank those guys for creating the mirror site and anyone who sent them the sorce code and files... this is what makes this community of fans so fucking great.
NiceHeadDeek
04-19-2004, 03:15 AM
Here's what we've been waiting for...
I'm here on the ground, with my nose in it, since the whole thing began.
No matter how good you are. Don't let them see you coming.
Look at me -- I've been underestimated from day one.
[image of blurred person?] Do I look like a master of the universe?
The day has come...the time of reckoning. Who will perish in dreaded hell and who's soul will be content within the pleasures of heaven? Looking past the words spoken with a wicked tongue and the evil deeds done within one's life...looking into the consciousness of man. What is the real evil that seems to plague mankind? Who are the real demons that walk this earth? Is it those whose minds have become devious because of a lifetime spent trapped in a caged hell, or is it those who invented this caged hell years ago and have done nothing to help destroy it?
Who's guilty? Which is the real evil? The two who were wrongly crucified, or the ones who have slain them? While the ones sit in judgment, they may very well be the one who's guilty of indecency and immorality.
Those who are rejected at the gates of heaven shall be dragged off into the pits of hell -- viciously torn from this life by the non-living, the phantoms of the dead. These beasts take the form of that which is wicked. Enforced by two yet led by one who was created by their own evil ways. One who will judge their very fate. The one known only as...
Be It Not The Answer You Had Sought, It Shall Be Revealed Soon...It's Coming. He's Coming. They're Coming. Where You Least Expect It.
Sanford7
04-19-2004, 03:21 AM
John Milton is the name of Al Pacino's character in "The Devil's Advocate". For anyone who doesn't know..John Milton=Devil. In the movie..The Devil makes a comment "I'm here on the ground with my nose in it since the whole thing began" I think this is the link that we were looking for, i just don't understand yet..
Sanford7
04-19-2004, 03:56 AM
FROM "THE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE"
Kevin Lomax: What do you want from me?
John Milton: I want you to be yourself. Y'know, boy, guilt is like a bag of fucking bricks. All you gotta do is set it down.....Who are you carrying all those bricks for anyway? God? Is that it? God? Well, I'll tell ya, lemme give you a little inside information about God. God likes to watch. He's a prankster. Think about it. He gives man instincts! He gives this extraordinary gift and then--what does he do? I swear--for his own amusement--his own private cosmic gag reel--he sets the rules in opposition. It's the goof of all time! Look. But don't touch! Touch. But don't taste! Taste. Don't swallow! [laughs] And while you're jumping from one foot to the next, he's laughing his sick fucking ass off!! He's a tight ass, he's a sadist, he's an absentee landlord!! Worship that never!
Kevin: Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven, is that it?
Milton: Why not? I'm here on the ground with my nose in it since the whole thing began! [screaming] I've nurtured every sensation Man has been inspired to have! I cared about what he wanted and I never judged him. Why? Because I never rejected him. In spite of all his imperfections, I'm a fan of man!!
[Calms] I'm a humanist. Maybe the last humanist. Who, in their right mind, Kevin, could possibly deny the 20th century was entirely mine? All of it, Kevin, all of it! Mine! I'm peaking here! It's my time now. It's our time.
seems oddly appropriate, doesn't it?
Sanford7
04-19-2004, 04:10 AM
I'm here on the ground, with my nose in it, since the whole thing began.
No matter how good you are. Don't let them see you coming.
Look at me -- I've been underestimated from day one.
Do I look like a master of the universe?
Actually, these are all lines from "The Devils Advocate"
If someone pointed to a man, and said thats the guy who made this site, I with no hesitation would throw punches right then and I don't have a violent bone in my body. Lame.
xajpx
04-19-2004, 04:51 AM
I've got it!
"Be It Not The Answer You Had Sought, It Shall Be Revealed Soon...It's Coming. He's Coming. They're Coming. Where You Least Expect It."
O and A are going to star in "Speed 3". Or maybe "Johnny Mnemonic 2". This kook has a real hard on for Keanu Reeves flicks.
"When you wake up, wipe the slugs off your face. Be ready for a new day!"
XAJPX
"Black Eye Specialist"
Sanford7
04-19-2004, 04:53 AM
Holy Shit...i Think I Figured It Out
BuffaloPaul
04-19-2004, 05:18 AM
Holy Shit...i Think I Figured It OutI think your right, Sanford7... about the "Devil's Advocate" reference!
Now I have to rent the Devil's Advocate tonight to look for more clues.
I uploaded the new "light.htm" page and the background sound clip, but I wasn't able to pull the "blur.gif" off.
The site is getting pounded now... and I don't know I can pull that blurred image off right now.
I will continue trying all morning... but you guys have to stop trying to view the geocities site.
HERE IS WHAT WE HAVE SO FAR...
oa2k4 mirror site (http://www.buffnet.net/~paulk/newONATRIX/oa2k4.html)
Sanford7
04-19-2004, 05:24 AM
All this talk about Judgement, and Heaven and Hell. Quotes from the Matrix, and The Devil's Advocate. Both might i add are Keanu Reeves movies. Keanu Reeve's who is also in a band. The band=Dogstar. What is the Dogstar? SIRIUS. On the new updated page..It says "walk towards the light" and the title.. "The light at the end of the tunnel".
Sirius (http://www.souledout.org/cosmology/sirius/siriusgodstar.html)
The dog Sirius is one of the watchmen of the Heavens, fixed in one place at the bridge of the Milky Way, keeping guard over the abyss into incarnation. The Dog Star is a symbol of power, will, and steadfastness of purpose, and exemplifies the One who has succeeded in bridging the lower and higher consciousness.
The Chinese knew this place as the bridge between heaven and hell, the bridge of the gatherer, the judge. In the higher mind are gathered the results of the experiences of the personality. Between each life the soul judges its past progress, and the conditions needed to aid its future growth. As long as it is attached to desire, sensation, and needs experiences, it takes a body. The soul cannot pass over the "bridge" until it is perfected.
Do a google search on Sirius and what do you get?
http://www.skylab.com.au/pmsa/images/sirius.jpg
WALK TOWARDS THE LIGHT
Could this be it? Could this all be to direct us towards Sirius?
NiceHeadDeek
04-19-2004, 05:29 AM
I uploaded the new "light.htm" page and the background sound clip, but I wasn't able to pull the "blur.gif" off.
Here ya go :)
Sanford7
04-19-2004, 05:33 AM
Something else i found..
Sirius (http://www.souledout.org/cosmology/cossynthreflects/sirius.html)
As we learn more about the nature of our galaxy and especially its magnetic field, we know that streams of energy from stars travel in specific directions, either up or down the galactic arm in which they are embedded. Stars are polarized to other stars, either negative and positive, some receiving energy, some sending it out, all of which travels on the path of the magnetic field lines.
Recent findings reveal we are "downstream" from Sirius in the part of the galactic arm our solar system resides in. If God is the bringer of life (energy) and light, Sirius fits the description—it transmits its energy (highly charged particles) to our entire system via the magnetic field lines. We literally receive energy from Sirius! Did the ancient priests understand this process, thus naming this star "God"?
BuffaloPaul
04-19-2004, 05:48 AM
Here ya go :)
Thanks N.H.D!!!
That was the last piece of the puzzle I needed to pull off the site, but I was able to pull it from your attachment and upload it to the mirror site.
SO THE MIRROR SITE IS NOW COMPLETE...
:devil: oa2k4 mirror site (http://www.buffnet.net/~paulk/newONATRIX/oa2k4.html):loll2:
Radioguy
04-19-2004, 05:52 AM
For good measure....
BuffaloPaul
04-19-2004, 06:37 AM
What does this blurred image look like?
Doesn't it sort of look like one of those Foundrymusic.com cartoon characters really blurred out?
Can anyone find out where this cartoon image may have came from, and we maybe able to figure out who they are refering to before they actually unblur it for us.
Any thought about this image?...
http://www.buffnet.net/~paulk/newONATRIX/blur.gif
mascan42
04-19-2004, 07:22 AM
Just what I said about those pics from the NY Auto Show . . . the head does look vaguely Opie-shaped . . .
shooters
04-19-2004, 07:26 AM
"Be It Not The Answer You Had Sought, It Shall Be Revealed Soon...It's Coming. He's Coming. They're Coming. Where You Least Expect It."
O&A back on WNEW????
or
Walkt towards the light...
SIRIUS
"scorching"
Other Names
Canicula; Dog Star; Aschere.
Alpha Canis Majoris (http://www.astro.wisc.edu/~dolan/constellations/constellations/Canis_Major.html)
HR 2491
HD 48915
Sirius is the brightest star in the sky, after the Sun. Take a look at the list of the Brightest Stars (http://www.astro.wisc.edu/~dolan/constellations/extra/brightest.html)
BuffaloPaul
04-19-2004, 07:29 AM
All this talk about Judgement, and Heaven and Hell. Quotes from the Matrix, and The Devil's Advocate. Both might i add are Keanu Reeves movies. Keanu Reeve's who is also in a band. The band=Dogstar. What is the Dogstar? SIRIUS. On the new updated page..It says "walk towards the light" and the title.. "The light at the end of the tunnel".
Sirius (http://www.souledout.org/cosmology/sirius/siriusgodstar.html)
The dog Sirius is one of the watchmen of the Heavens, fixed in one place at the bridge of the Milky Way, keeping guard over the abyss into incarnation. The Dog Star is a symbol of power, will, and steadfastness of purpose, and exemplifies the One who has succeeded in bridging the lower and higher consciousness.
The Chinese knew this place as the bridge between heaven and hell, the bridge of the gatherer, the judge. In the higher mind are gathered the results of the experiences of the personality. Between each life the soul judges its past progress, and the conditions needed to aid its future growth. As long as it is attached to desire, sensation, and needs experiences, it takes a body. The soul cannot pass over the "bridge" until it is perfected.
Do a google search on Sirius and what do you get?
http://www.skylab.com.au/pmsa/images/sirius.jpg
WALK TOWARDS THE LIGHT
Could this be it? Could this all be to direct us towards Sirius?
Sanford7,
There are many wildly related things in your statement. The whole Keanu Reeves connection is quite weird. You right about the "Devil Advocate" and all the clues that have been given so far. I just find it wierd that O&A would come up with such an elaborite riddle to point us towards "Sirius" radio.
Could they have had THAT much time on their hands that they would be able to tie all these elements together?
http://www.buffnet.net/~paulk/newONATRIX/devilsad2.jpg
http://www.buffnet.net/~paulk/newONATRIX/matrixad1.jpg
It's some pretty fucked up shit... and if you ARE RIGHT...
O&A are probably laughing their asses off that we were able to figure it out so quickly! :loll2:
(*EDIT*)
Kevin: Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven, is that it?
Milton: Why not? I'm here on the ground with my nose in it since the whole thing began! [screaming] I've nurtured every sensation Man has been inspired to have! I cared about what he wanted and I never judged him. Why? Because I never rejected him. In spite of all his imperfections, I'm a fan of man!!
[Calms] I'm a humanist. Maybe the last humanist. Who, in their right mind, Kevin, could possibly deny the 20th century was entirely mine? All of it, Kevin, all of it! Mine! I'm peaking here! It's my time now. It's our time.
Holy SHIT!
I just thought of this... the Keanu Reeves character in the "Devil's Advocate" is named "Kevin"!
Keanu's band is named Dogstar...
Spaz goes by the radio name of "K-dog"...
SHIT... IT IS THE RETURN OF SPAZ!:loll2:
FreznoSmooth
04-19-2004, 08:04 AM
Must.......keep......head........from..........exp loding..........
BuffaloPaul
04-19-2004, 08:09 AM
posted on 04-17-2004, 08:30 PM
(playing devils advocate)
to make it look like one of us?
maybe it's really a tomato fucker trying to get recognition?
maybe they cant afford it because their new place isnt paying them as much?
Fucking Rob had the entire thing figured out on Saturday night!
He had the movie reference and the K-dog connection!!!
Rob... are YOU just fucking with us here? :devil: :rockon" :loll2:
APortablePhone
04-19-2004, 08:15 AM
Could they have had THAT much time on their hands that they would be able to tie all these elements together?
What's more remarkable is that since O&A were canceled we now have enough time on our hands to come up with a million theories to figure out these riddles.
Oh, and I'm leaning towards the Keanu theory, if the next MP3 artist is Ted "Theodore" Logan, I'll be out first thing to buy a Sirius setup.
robification
04-19-2004, 10:54 AM
if it's spaz, i'm really gonna be pissed that i thought about this so much
av8rOC
04-19-2004, 11:28 AM
This is waaaaaaaaay over spaz's head.
This coming from a guy who would be glad to see spaz return to the show. (Obviously assuming they worked out whatever differences they had)
basatak
04-19-2004, 11:37 AM
if it's spaz, i'm really gonna be pissed that i thought about this so muchdoubtful...his messageboard is barren, his web master bailed on him, and he doesnt have the skill, knowledge, or drive to pull of something as clever as this. I say it's the boys....with a little 'help".
peewee
04-19-2004, 11:52 AM
i think it is some crazed fan now. its not making sence anymore. i am sure they are just laughing their asses off reading this thread. i mean there is no new info they are giving us. just a bunch of crazy clues.
robification
04-19-2004, 12:11 PM
the more i think about it, the more i feel it's not anyone who has anything to do with O&A.... just some douche effing with us.... he got nuttin
peewee
04-19-2004, 12:13 PM
have to give it to him though, we have an 8 page thread on it and i am sure its only going to get bigger.
Guysdrinkingbeer
04-19-2004, 12:17 PM
Given how much we listen to O @ A over the years, do we know how much they are into puzzles, riddles, hidden meanings. I am going to say quite a bit.
These are just some of the ones I can think of
- "What is the opposite of small white?" Opie taking about Big Black from the HooHoo show wanting to do stuff for them when High Pitch Eric did his bomb threat.
- The amount of video games that Opie and Anthony play. Especially Anthony. He really seemed to be into games like Resident Evil that had puzzles with crazy obscure clues. Opie just seemed to like curing the homeless problem in GTA3 with a baseball bat.
I am not saying this means it is the boys, but it does indicate that they could at least think it was cool.
Just my two cents.
Joe Orthex
04-19-2004, 01:12 PM
first let me say i never knew how bad geocities sucked. sorry i had to use it in the past. however i have since learned that there are other free webspace sites out there that work better then geocities and give you more bandwith. if it was O&A i am sure they would have used one of the better ones out there. there are ways to set up a web site and still remain annonomous(sp). and if O&A had enough time to come up with this elaborate(sp) riddle they would have had enough time to find a more stable web site then geocites.
i thought it might have been spaz, but as was already mentioned, spaz had someone run his site cause he did not know how, and his webmaster bailed on him. spaz has enough keeping his site (which has nothing) running, i don't think he is behind this. the spaz site is slipping into nothing. if it was him why not do it on his site to draw in the crowds? anyway i don't think it's him.
i managed to get to the site and saved what was there and put it on my mirror site. this is how it looks at 1:15 pm. (minus the geocities adds)
mirror site (http://oavirus.com/oa2k/)
funny thing though, when i got to the site the banner add in the right conner was advertising movie posters, and the movie that was displaye was The Matrix. (although i belive that was coincidance, but not sure cause i can't get back to the site now).
less then 11 hours in this fine monday, let's see what happens.
(oh, and no one answered, who in the show had their FACE in it since day one?)
Joe Orthex
04-19-2004, 01:19 PM
one more thing, weldhelmet pulled a sound bit off the site and sent it to me. i don't know how it works on the site, but weld said it was there. any way here is the sound bit he sent me.
dontquestionit.mp3 (http://oavirus.com/oa2k/dontquestionit.mp3)
mean anything to anyone?
Joe Orthex
04-19-2004, 01:26 PM
damn, sorry about 3 post back to back, but that sound bit was not working for me so i opened it in a program and resaved it. and i now see that when you go to the second page with the blurred image that mp3 is the background sound. i just don't know what it means, if it means anything.
also on the main page the "and on the 7th day he rested" has been changed. (in case no one noticed that.)
ShaunC1000
04-19-2004, 01:31 PM
first let me say i never knew how bad geocities sucked. sorry i had to use it in the past. however i have since learned that there are other free webspace sites out there that work better then geocities and give you more bandwith. if it was O&A i am sure they would have used one of the better ones out there. there are ways to set up a web site and still remain annonomous(sp). and if O&A had enough time to come up with this elaborate(sp) riddle they would have had enough time to find a more stable web site then geocites.
maby they knew it would be hard to get to... to make it seem more secretive. I don't think Opie would post a link to this site on opieandanthony.com if it didn't seem like something we should be looking at. He didn't deny that him and Anthony were behind it, or know something more. We should be looking towards bravestreet.. this is just as vague.. maby revoew the video a few more times. I'll work more on it later tonight... I think there is some connection.
ralphifkan
04-19-2004, 01:39 PM
And while we can't be sure it's Spaz, it does seem to make sense when you think about the first line a bit from the site:
"Where it all begins again...like it began back 'den" (Seeing I couldn't hear the show back then, was Spaz with the show in the beginning?)
and also
"Look at me - I've been underestimated since day one"
I just hope that it will be good news, and not crap.
shooters
04-19-2004, 01:40 PM
Has anyone seen this? it's at the bottom of the source code.
<!!----Zerosignl2@earthlink.com (----Zerosignl2@earthlink.com)----!>
<!----He Will Surface And Reveal All Soon----!>
<!----He's had his face in it since day one. ahhhh wooooooo. C'mon----!>
robification
04-19-2004, 01:43 PM
hope for good news but be ready for crap...
the message in the source code is what made me believe it was spaz originally
look at that email addy.... xerosign.... i did a search on zerosign on google and found a board with no threads or posts yet
**EDIT**
actually, nevermind the board.... i searched for zerosign and went to zerosignal... probably not related
ralphifkan
04-19-2004, 01:50 PM
Well, I've been staring at the blur image, and moving around to see if at a different angle a better "shape" would start to form (although you dont really need to move to see what I'm seeing - saying that this image is even of any substance and not just some random image) but it looks like someone wearing a blue shirt and jeans, pointing with both hands at the camera, standing as if they were heading towards an "I to you" kind of pose. But, as I said, that's only if the image matters and isn't some random shot.
I just took a closer look by zooming in on the image, and it could be a person giving 2 thumbs up to the camera.
shooters
04-19-2004, 01:56 PM
OK, I really want to know more now. At the sight below is a guy who goes by the name of ZerosignL, could that be the owner of the e-mail address?
http://www.planetquake.com/qsb/credits.html
ZeroSignL Ben 'psx' Hamilton
robification
04-19-2004, 01:59 PM
i also found something about someone with a similar name with a suicide letter....
NICE!
shooters
04-19-2004, 02:10 PM
Looks like ben is into alot of web and media stuff. Same ben listed on this site
http://www.ritualistic.com/content.php/about
Patrick "Millennium" Curry and Ben "PSX" Hamilton, who started this site along with Maarten and Aaron.
Looks like Ben is a webmaster and a big contributor to editing quake content. He also moved 3000 miles away from california, so maybe he lives in new york now?
Anyway, I thought this might be important since this guy could be the owner of the email address and the owner of the site. Am I going too far?
i also found something about someone with a similar name with a suicide letter....
NICE!
:biggrinea
jpc165
04-19-2004, 02:20 PM
Is there any way to sharpen the blurred image?
http://oavirus.com/oa2k/blur.gif
ralphifkan
04-19-2004, 02:24 PM
I would doubt it, since the name of the file is "blur.gif" It was created as such, and won't be easy to sharpen.
shooters
04-19-2004, 02:28 PM
On the Live 365 feed, just a minute ago some girl mentions the movie Devils Advocate. No relation here just ironic it comes on, while I'm browsing all ths stuuf.
robification
04-19-2004, 02:56 PM
i'm confused.... how did anyone determine zerosign is ben hamilton?
ralphifkan
04-19-2004, 02:59 PM
I think that a search was done on the name, trying to find someone who could have it. Apparently the only one that came up was this Ben Hamilton guy.
wad2k
04-19-2004, 03:24 PM
"They're Coming. Where You Least Expect It."
I GOT IT!
http://cbn.org/
jpc165
04-19-2004, 03:26 PM
<!!----Zerosignl2@earthlink.com (----Zerosignl2@earthlink.com)----!>
<!----He Will Surface And Reveal All Soon----!>
<!----He's had his face in it since day one. ahhhh wooooooo. C'mon----!>
I just sent off an email to this address. Anyone else tried to contact this address?
BucketofAIDS
04-19-2004, 03:30 PM
I'm not sure but can the blurred image be Stinkys Foundry Music cartoon image it has some resemblence(sp)
ralphifkan
04-19-2004, 03:44 PM
I don't think I saw it mentioned at all, but the little speech is actually from the Insane Clown Posse's "Ringmaster." There are a few differences though:
From the mysterious site
Who's guilty? Which is the real evil? The two who were wrongly crucified, or the ones who have slain them? While the ones sit in judgment, they may very well be the one who's guilty of indecency and immorality.
and the song
Who's guilty? Frankenstein, or the doctor who created it? The sword, or the man who has slain with it? Which is the real evil -- the man who kills another for food, or the man who does not share his food to prevent the killing? While you sit in judgment of a criminal, you may very well be the one who's guilty of greed, deception, and hatred and one more
From the mysterious site
These beasts take the form of that which is wicked. Enforced by two yet led by one who was created by their own evil ways. One who will judge their very fate. The one known only as...and the song
These beasts take the form of a demented carnival, that of a wicked, dark circus, led by one. One who was created by your own evil ways..one who will judge your very fate..one known only as...the Ringmaster! I really think that because of the last quote(yet led by one who was created...), someone (either who listened to them religiously and probably belongs to this site, or someone who actually worked with the show) is getting their own radio show.
I'm starting to think that this site really doesn't have anything to do with a show announcement.
T Brokenjaw
04-19-2004, 04:39 PM
Is there any way to sharpen the blurred image?The best I could do....
http://oavirus.com/oa2k/blur.gifhttp://members.lycos.co.uk/xxcrazydudexx/avatars/blur_sharp.jpg
It does look like something off foundry. Look at the feet kind of cartoon like.
I know Im going to regret getting involved in this thread. Its probably a big joke on us.
Where the hell is Columbo when you need him....
http://members.lycos.co.uk/xxcrazydudexx/avatars/Columbo.jpg
I'm staying out of this one....
Brian 3816
04-19-2004, 04:48 PM
I'm not sure but can the blurred image be Stinkys Foundry Music cartoon image it has some resemblence(sp)
Do you have the cartoon image of Stinky so we can compare them?
palefishbelly
04-19-2004, 04:49 PM
Here is just something from left field. Could the 'He' be Hoo-Hoo? They talk about his "nose" being in it from the beginning. IF it were could they (assuming "they" are the bbboys) be talking about not their return but their firing? "All will be revealed" (remember the gag-order?) and "which is guilty" might be the bbboys getting ready to discuss how possibly Hoo-hoo had a hand in their dismissal from Infinity. Just thought we might want to explore a different track, before we get Fedex-Ed, Robification, and Buffalo Paul following the Dogstar with Gold, Frankencense, and Murr. I know there are some holes in the theory, but just a theory.
robification
04-19-2004, 05:07 PM
honestly, my head hurts with this speculation.... just a couple of pages ago, everyone was blowing dust off their bibles looking for clues
i'd like to think that if o&a were to be sending us messages, they wouldnt do it in this fashion. there are so many other ways to send hints making things more obvious for us....
the major announcement of "we will be back on air on...." will not be on a retarded geocities site for no one to see because it cant handle the bandwidth.... i dont think anyone can argue that...
so what are we speculating on? something some guy is doing to eff with us? maybe spaz trying to in to the show? at this point, knowing nothing official is going to come out of this geocities site, i can really care less....
**message to the person behind that site(i know you read this board)**
if you have something to say, then say it.... otherwise go fuck yourself... you did good at first making people curious,