Latest Opie&Anthony News..

[BuffaloPaul]

I don't remember how I signed up for it, but I have this "google news search" thing that constantly scours the internet news world for any articles with the words "Opie and Anthony" in the article.

It is the best damn thing... it's like having ONLY "Opie and Anthony news" delivered to my door step every minute of every day. I suspect very soon my email box will soon be flooded with news articles being written about the boys return when they make that announcement. Right now I am just happy with the bits of scraps that turn up every time an article is written about the FCC crackdown on indecency in media... and O&A's name are bound to come up.

I always enjoy scanning the article to see if this "news reporter" got that part of his story right... or if once again, he didn't do his homework and misquoted the news about O&A. Sure enough, this latest article in the Seattle Times is another glaring example of how the media misquotes news and adds to the problem.


Here is the latest "Opie and Anthony" quote from "The Seattle Times: Saturday, April 24, 2004 - Page updated at 12:00 A.M."...

FCC indecency fight chilling
free speech?

By Mark Rahner (mrahner@seattletimes.com)
Seattle Times staff reporter


When Marv Johnson saw the replays of Janet Jackson's Super Bowl breast flash, he thought: "This means my life's going to be a living hell for a while."

Johnson, legislative counsel for the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), was referring to the organization's lobbying effort — so far, rather ineffectual — against the Broadcast Decency Enforcement Act of 2004, which the ACLU claims is unconstitutional. The bill, which would increase potential indecency fines from $27,000 to $500,000 for owners and talent, passed in the House of Representatives with a mere 10 percent opposition on March 11. The Senate vote hasn't been scheduled.

The uproar over the Super Bowl in early February led to a Federal Communications Commission (FCC) indecency crackdown against Howard Stern and other salty broadcasters. The FCC this month proposed $495,000 in fines against Clear Channel Communications for 18 different alleged violations in a single April 9 Stern show, broadcast across six of its stations. That would be the most fines ever levied against a single show, and even larger fines against Stern are expected.

Monday, the ACLU, along with Viacom, the Screen Actors Guild and others petitioned the agency to reconsider its ruling against provocative U2 rocker Bono for his expletive during the Golden Globes. The FCC had reversed its own earlier judgment that Bono's utterance was not indecent.

But wherever you fall on Super Bowl exposures, Stern's scatological antics or Bono's thing for four-letter words, it's hard not to notice all the dead air among some of the broadcast world's loudest voices in a debate that could have a profound effect on free speech. It has been so silent, in fact, that "debate" is the wrong word.

After the proposed fines were announced, Clear Channel permanently dropped Stern from the six stations. (Management at Entercom-owned KISW-FM, which has run Stern in Seattle since May 2001, won't comment on the popular show's future here.)

Stern's own philippics against the FCC and Clear Channel have made him sound like Lenny Bruce reading court transcripts onstage. But other radio professionals, including people famous for being outspoken on nearly any other issue, have largely clammed up.

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In a climate where some industry observers have begun to use terms like "witch hunt," many broadcasters talk about a widespread fear in their ranks.

"They hire us to be outrageous, they tell us to go, go, go, and they even get sponsors for what we do," said syndicated shock jock Tom Leykis, heard on KQBZ. But then, he and other broadcasters say, when the political pressure increases, station owners such as Clear Channel are too quick to hang the broadcasters out to dry.

A 'blunt instrument'?

"It's not the government's business to decide what is and isn't decent," says the ACLU's Johnson. "That's up to the individual, the parents and the viewer to make the decision."

But one of the organization's best friends disagrees.

U.S. Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Wash., is one of the few legislators with 100 percent on the ACLU's "scorecard," voting along the organization's lines on its key issues. He bucked the ACLU, however, on the decency bill.

"I think we have a responsibility to protect our children. This is not a First Amendment question," McDermott says. "God knows I'm a First Amendment guy. But there is a need for us to be responsible for what our kids are exposed to, and I think it's the FCC that ought to make those kinds of decisions."

McDermott, who says his feedback on the decency bill has been about evenly split, calls the bill "a blunt instrument. And frequently we have a difficulty because we only have blunt instruments. But I personally don't think children need to be exposed to all the things that we as adults know about and that we do. The public airwaves, we have given them away, and (broadcasters) are not acting responsibly. And the question is, how does the public take control again of the public airwaves? And perhaps this wasn't the best bill, but I think it's a message to them that we're thinking about it."

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/art/ui/dot_clear.gifhttp://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2001911120.jpgMichael Powell, FCC chairmanhttp://127.0.0.1:1025/bug.cgi Veteran KIRO talker Dave Ross takes the other side, arguing that if a show is popular, then the public has taken control of the airwaves — at least in terms of content. "There's no industry more responsive to the market than us," Ross said. "If you stop listening to what we do, we'll stop doing it." His answer to broadcast indecency: "Just pay attention to what your kids are watching. It just isn't that difficult."

The professorial Ross isn't trying to protect his own right to foul the airwaves. "I don't even use words like that off the air," he commented. Yet he says of the bill: "I clearly think it's unconstitutional. 'Congress shall make no law' is pretty clear.

"The concern, of course, is that if Congress has the power to outlaw one word, it has the power to outlaw another word. ... And the fact that it was indecency and not politics doesn't make that much difference, because if you give the government the power to decide what you can hear, you've given them power over discourse."

Ross added: "It was smart politically to go after Howard Stern, because very few people are going to stand up and support him. ... You pick a safe target and you go after it, and people think they're going after the person. But in fact, the mechanism they're using is going after free speech."

More complaints

Bob Eatman, the radio agent for Chicago shock-jock Mancow (whose show is not carried in Seattle but is syndicated from WKQX-FM in Chicago), expresses palpable frustration with the crackdown on radio raunch.

"What have been the problems listening to this? Are 7-year-olds listening to Mancow's show? He tells parents not to let their kids listen," he says. "Advertisers aren't after that demographic. How many 7-year-olds are listening to Howard Stern? Are they unsupervised? Are they in the car driving themselves?"

Figures for 7-year-olds aren't available, but teens were just 1.8 percent of Stern's audience in the markets where Clear Channel dropped him — less than half of the 4.3 percent they make up in his national audience, according to Arbitron stats from the trade magazine Radio and Records.

The FCC won't comment on the indecency issue. But it will give basic facts and data — including statistics showing an explosion of complaints. This year, as of just after the Feb. 1 Super Bowl, the FCC had received 530,885 complaints about broadcast indecency; 530,828 were about the Super Bowl (which had an estimated audience of 90 million viewers). The remaining 57 were for 23 other programs.

In 2003, the FCC received 240,350 indecency complaints, mostly about nine shows, including the Golden Globes which aired singer Bono's expletive.

In 2002, there were just 13,922 complaints, mostly for four programs, including the church-sex broadcast that got radio's Opie and Anthony fired. In 2001, there were 346 complaints.

What accounts for the jump in volume, even before The Breast? The FCC says it's mass complaints through e-mail. Web sites such as the Parents Television Council's make it as easy as hitting a button. That adds an irony to the current debate: The same Internet that has allowed an explosion of edgy or objectionable material has also made it far easier to complain.

Still, it can take as little as a single person complaining to trigger FCC action. Mancow, for example, faces $42,000 in FCC fines for coarse antics. But Eatman, his agent, says those fines result from complaints filed by an individual. (The Chicago Tribune reported that David Smith, who works for a group called Citizens for Community Values, filed 66 FCC complaints against Mancow from 1999 to 2003.)

If the numbers simply reflect a very vocal minority, shock jock Leykis says that a passive majority will get exactly what it deserves. If listeners who made the racy shows popular in the first place don't speak up to their representatives, they'll wind up with sanitized airwaves, Leykis says.

In investigating indecency complaints, the FCC first looks at whether the offending program used gratuitous material on sexual or excretory functions. Then it makes a more subjective judgment: how that material fits into contemporary community standards.

The ACLU's Johnson says FCC chairman Michael Powell "doesn't seem to be terribly concerned about the definition of indecency, but it's so vague that it tends to chill free speech. If (a controversial show) didn't sell and didn't sell advertising, it wouldn't be running, so that obviously doesn't apply to the average person in the community.

"Usually people talk about a chilling effect. This is more like a freezing," Eatman says. He believes the crusade is an election-year smoke screen. "Is it that conservatives don't want us to focus on the issues?"

There's more to it than that, according to University of Washington journalism professor David Domke. "It's also rooted in a sense that America as a nation is struggling to reclaim its place morally on the planet since 9/11."

In his forthcoming book, "Fundamentalism and Fear," Domke makes a provocative argument about a United States where people can lose careers and be fined vast sums simply for things they utter, and where the indecency battle is just one front in a larger brewing culture war.

Domke disagrees with McDermott on whether the bill is compatible with the First Amendment.

"Generally, I think it doesn't square," he said. "It's contradictory with it. ... I think the position where most Americans live is the balance between free speech and security. So when speech is perceived as threatening security, then the public will say that's not appropriate."

The current uproar about indecency, he adds, has nothing to do with security. "I don't see where Howard Stern is a threat to the nation in any way," Domke says. "He's not my cup of tea. But he's been around a long time, and the nation's been doing pretty well."

So how is this all going to play out?

Max Tolkoff, a columnist for Radio and Records magazine, is betting the true test will come if ratings go down because shows become bland.

"There's been a climate of envelope-pushing in radio for 10 or 15 years, and the strength of the response from Congress and the FCC surprised everyone," Tolkoff says. "All of a sudden the government has entered the culture wars. But is it the government's job to be in the culture wars?"

He also doesn't think the dead air on the part of broadcasters and free-speech advocates will last. "I think right now the pendulum is so far over into the side of 'Let's police everything.' I think the debate is just beginning. The forces of reason have not had time to regroup and marshal their forces. I think we're going to see the debate go very far in the other direction as soon as people start talking about it."

Mark Rahner: 206-464-8259
or mrahner@seattletimes.com (mrahner@seattletimes.com) http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/artsentertainment/2001911494_fcc24.html

I may have to start a thread entitled "Latest O&A google news search articles" and post all the incoming articles and use my yellow and red highlighter to mark the O&A references and the red one for the FALSE quotes.

The news is going to get pretty EXTREME... very soon!!! :cool3:

[FOFOLINA]

Ok I changed the title to this.. So any news about O&A Goes here.. and not that shit like the other thread.. News like.. In the newspaper,Tv,ect...
We can all put it here. It can be something we all can talk with out speculation and such.. So I hope the change of the title is good. :) Nice find btw Paul.

[Ballbuster1]

Very cool. I like this idea. :clap:

I'm sure the O&A army will find plenty of real news
stories popping up soon!

[palefishbelly]

Ok I changed the title to this.. So any news about O&A Goes here.. and not that shit like the other thread.. News like.. In the newspaper,Tv,ect...
We can all put it here. It can be something we all can talk with out speculation and such.. So I hope the change of the title is good. :) Nice find btw Paul.
What if the news doesn't say "AP?" Does it still count?

[SOS]

What if the news doesn't say "AP?" Does it still count?
No, it does not but post in anyways.

[Rob]

i get those google email alerts too... they never really say much (like me)... but its nice to see where their mentioned...

[100 Grand]

they never really say much (like me)...

what he said....

[AGNY83]

How about a rule that no one posts here, only news.....that way we know when new news it up.....and yeah i know i just posted here....im a dick

[OVERMAN]

Not really O & A news, but, Opie is quoted a couple of times.

Stern Burns Rivals
by John Mainelli

April 24, 2004 -- Howard Stern thundered back to the top of the ratings yesterday, proving once again that any publicity is good publicity in radio.

The shock jock - who was suspended in February, fined in March, and both fined and fired (by Clear Channel) this month - delivered his best numbers for K-Rock in more than three years, according to Arbitron's winter ratings.

Stern, who ranked third last fall, rocketed from a 5.9 percent morning-audience share to a pack-leading 7.2 in winter, surpassing WSKQ's Luis Jimenez and all-news WINS.

"The FCC has no idea [that] they just did the old guy the biggest favor ever," said Gregg "Opie" Hughes, who feuded with Stern until he and partner Anthony Cumia lost their radio gigs after the sex-in-St. Pat's scandal.

"People who haven't checked out Howard in years are tuning him in in droves lately," Hughes said. "Make no mistake about it - controversy will always sell."

WABC's Rush Limbaugh - whose admitted addiction to painkillers got him plenty of headlines, too - also rebounded beyond recent highs.

The grandfather of all shock jocks - Don Imus - had his lowest ratings ever last winter for WFAN, down again from an earlier record bottom last fall.

His 2.6 percent audience share - little better than a third of Stern's new total - ranked 14th among all morning listeners.

Meanwhile yesterday, Infinity Broadcasting Corp., contested a $27,500 fine imposed by the Federal Communications Commission for a 2001 Stern show, saying the penalty is part of a federal campaign to undermine constitutional free-speech rights.

"The commission has abruptly and systematically altered almost every aspect of indecency enforcement in ways that dramatically undermine the lawfulness" of the agency's penalties, Infinity, the second-largest U.S. radio network, said in a filing with the FCC.

In March, the FCC said it would fine Infinity for a 2001 show that described "sexual and excretory" activities at an hour when children may have been listening. If the FCC proceeds with its fine, the first involving the Stern show since 1998, New York-based Infinity can appeal to a federal court.

Clear Channel Communications, the No. 1 U.S. radio network, chose to avoid a dispute with the FCC.

Earlier this year, Clear Channel yanked Stern's show from the six markets where the company was airing the program.With Post Wire Services

[BuffaloPaul]

April 28, 2004
FCC chided for delays in imposing fines

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By Chris Baker
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
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As John B. Thompson sees it, it took federal regulators far too long to determine that Howard Stern's on-air description of a sidekick's sex life wasn't fit for the morning airwaves.

Mr. Thompson dropped his 10-year-old son off at school on April 9, 2003, then flipped on the car radio to check up on his old nemesis, Mr. Stern. He heard the radio host lead a discussion of the sexual habits of sidekick John Melendez, who has since departed the show.

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Mr. Thompson — a Coral Gables, Fla., lawyer and activist who has spent the past 13 years battling "shock radio," violent video games and graphic rap music — drove to his office and dashed off a complaint to the Federal Communications Commission about Mr. Stern's latest antics.

Almost one year to the day later, the FCC acted on the complaint, slapping radio giant Clear Channel Communications Inc. with a $495,000 fine for airing Mr. Stern's program on its Fort Lauderdale, Fla., station and five others.

"Why did it take an entire year to issue that fine?" Mr. Thompson asked.

Other activists — and some industry executives and members of Congress — believe the FCC, until recently, lacked the political will to enforce its decency rules.

Also, it can take months for complaints to work their way through the FCC's bureaucracy, observers say.

Most of the penalties the agency has proposed since the fall are for incidents that are more than a year old:

•On March 18, the FCC fined Infinity Broadcasting Corp. $27,500 for a July 26, 2001, broadcast in which Mr. Stern discussed deviant sexual acts.

•On March 12, the FCC fined Clear Channel $247,500 for a March 13, 2003, discussion about group sex on its "Elliot in the Morning" show.

•On Jan. 27, it fined Clear Channel $715,000 for 26 violations of decency rules by Florida disc jockey Todd Clem, who used the name "Bubba the Love Sponge" on the air. The segments — including a discussion of sex between humans and cartoon characters — aired in July, November and December 2001.

•On Oct. 2, the FCC fined Infinity Broadcasting Corp. $357,000 for broadcasting a Northern Virginia couple's purported sexual encounter inside New York's St. Patrick's Cathedral on Aug. 15, 2002. The stunt aired on Infinity's now-defunct "Opie & Anthony" show.

A study in March by the Center for Public Integrity, a nonprofit government watchdog group, found that since 1990, the FCC averages 523 days between a broadcast and the proposal of a fine.

"We need to take the time necessary to be thorough and fair to all the parties involved, and the amount of time can vary based on the amount of facts available and the circumstances involved," said Richard Diamond, an FCC spokesman.

Under FCC rules, broadcasters cannot air material containing references to sexual and excretory functions between 6 a.m. and 10 p.m., when children are most likely to tune in. The rules apply only to over-the-air radio and television stations, not their cable and satellite counterparts.

The FCC received 240,350 complaints last year about potentially indecent material, up from 111 in 2000. The surge is largely attributed to groups such as the Parents Television Council, which have organized mass mailing of complaints to the FCC in recent years.

The FCC's enforcement bureau — the division responsible for reviewing complaints — has about 350 employees, up from about 290 in 1999.

The FCC asks people who wish to file a complaint to provide it with enough information to investigate the incident, such as a tape or a transcript.

After FCC officials review the materials, they decide whether the incident meets the threshold for indecency. If they deem it indecent, they propose a fine, which is officially called a "notice of apparent liability."

A broadcaster that receives a notice has 30 days to pay or appeal. If the broadcaster appeals, it must provide the FCC with an explanation of why it believes the material was not indecent.

The back-and-forth can take years. For example, the FCC has fined Infinity Broadcasting or corporate cousin CBS Radio seven times since 1997, but the New York companies have not paid a penalty since Infinity's $1.7 million settlement with the FCC in 1995.

Most of Infinity's fines are still on appeal. In one case, the FCC turned to the Justice Department to help it collect a $2,000 fine proposed in August 1998, but the department declined in May 2003 to take Infinity to court, saying too much time had passed.

Since 1990, the FCC has had to cancel at least $152,150 in fines because too much time had passed to collect the money, according to the Center for Public Integrity study.

The "Opie & Anthony" incident sparked outrage among FCC commissioners and lawmakers, but the government's crackdown on indecency didn't pick up steam until Feb. 1, when one of Janet Jackson's breasts was briefly exposed during the nationally televised Super Bowl halftime show, prompting more than 200,000 complaints to the FCC.

Before that incident, FCC Chairman Michael L. Powell focused on other matters, such as deregulating the media companies the agency oversees, said Howard M. Liberman, a communications lawyer and former FCC staff attorney.

"Until Janet Jackson's dress fell off, the policy within the commission was to bury these [complaints] as much as possible," Mr. Liberman said.

Mr. Thompson said a lack of "political will" at the FCC has had more to do with delaying fines than the agency's bureaucracy.

He said he hopes the FCC will continue to take indecency seriously and clear out its backlog.

"There are complaints that have been sitting there 10 years that have never been responded to. ... I've written hundreds of times," he said.
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[Rob]

http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2004/05/quirk.htm

The Atlantic Monthly | May 2004

The Agenda

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FCC fines for indecency and obscenity

by Matthew Quirk

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http://www.theatlantic.com/images/dc-i.gifn the wake of "Nipplegate"—the infamous Super Bowl halftime show in which Janet Jackson's breast was exposed—the Federal Communications Commission has very pushily pursued a crusade against broadcast indecency. But behind the scenes the FCC has been on the lookout all along. The task of policing the airwaves lies with its Enforcement Bureau, created in 1999 to centralize investigations of "obscenity" And "indecency." To fine a broadcaster, the FCC must complete an "indecency analysis" that considers whether material is explicit; whether it is repeated or dwelled on at length; and whether it is pandering, titillating, or shocking. Here are the cases that, according to published documents, resulted in the ten largest fines the FCC has levied since 1999.



Bubba the Love Sponge and Clear Channel Communications, for segments featuring conversations about "oral sex, penises, testicles, masturbation, intercourse, orgasms, and breasts." The commission singled out as "calculated and callous" a segment featuring impersonations of the cartoon characters George Jetson, Fat Albert, Alvin the Chipmunk, and Scooby-Doo and Shaggy. Clear Channel was fined for twenty-six incidents and four technical violations, and threatened with license revocation. The Love Sponge was fired. Total fine: $755,000.
Opie & Anthony, WNEW of New York, and Infinity Broadcasting, for a contest that awarded points for performing sex acts in public places. "Spotters" trailed couples to New York City locations (Saint Patrick's Cathedral, a zoo, FAO Schwarz), tabulated scores, and provided play-by-play description. The station was cited for thirteen indecency violations and threatened with the loss of its license. Total fine: $357,500.
Elliot in the Morning, WWDC of Washington, D.C., and AMFM Radio Licenses. To win a competition to cage-dance at a Kid Rock concert, two sixteen-year-old girls discussed sex acts in the hallways, stairwells, and closets of Bishop Denis J. O'Connell High School. Two indecency violations. Total fine: $55,000.
Mancow's Morning Madhouse, WKQX of Chicago, and Emmis Radio License, for skits in which women—singly or gathered in Mancow's "lava lamp love lounge"—described and participated in sexual activities. Six incidents. Total fine: $42,000.
KRON 4 Morning News, KRON-TV of San Francisco, and Young Broadcasting. Cast members from the Puppetry of the Penis show "appeared in capes but were otherwise naked." One exposed himself while performing "genital origami"—manipulating his genitalia to resemble "objects, architecture, and people," including the Eiffel Tower and a baby kangaroo. Total fine: $27,500.
The Deminski & Doyle Show, WKRK of Detroit, and Infinity Broadcasting. Hosts asked callers to describe "explicit and graphic" sexual practices. Total fine: $27,500.
Edmund Dinis and WJFD of New Bedford, Massachusetts. Callers to a Spanish-language program told dirty jokes about anal and oral sex, excretory activities, sexual intercourse with a child present, and Fidel Castro. Total fine: $22,400.
Opie & Anthony, WNEW, and Infinity Broadcasting, for incidents including a graphic song about a father's having oral sex with his daughter. Total fine: $21,000.
No te Duermas, WKAQ of Puerto Rico, and Telemundo, for one skit featuring a couple apparently engaged in oral sex, and another in which a woman lectures about sex toys. The FCC deemed the latter "not a clinical discussion" based on the way "she is carried off by two male models" at the segment's end. Total fine: $21,000.
El vacilón de la Mañana, WCOM of Puerto Rico, and WLDI, Inc., for strong sexual innuendo in the morning weather report, among other things. Total fine: $21,000.

[mascan42]

Decency gets some heavy opposition
FCC urged to start regulating cable TV, but free-speechers say enough, already

Jonathan Curiel, Chronicle Staff Writer (jcuriel@sfchronicle.com)

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Randy Sharp wants the Federal Communications Commission to regulate cable TV the same way it regulates broadcast networks. To Sharp, indecent images and foul language should be stopped whether they're on MTV or CBS. Under the jurisdiction of the FCC, Sharp says, cable television would no longer be a haven for shows promoting "gratuitous sex and violence."

"We believe Congress should authorize the FCC to have authority over cable broadcasts," Sharp said in a phone interview from Tupelo, Miss., where he's director of special projects for the American Family Association, a conservative organization with 2 million members. "We want to see TV cleaned up for our children."

The pleas from Sharp's organization are being mulled over by important Washington lawmakers. Rep. Joe Barton -- a conservative Texas Republican and the head of the powerful House Energy and Commerce Committee, which oversees the FCC -- has said there's little difference between public airwaves and private broadcasts in an age when a majority of Americans get cable TV.

"If I can see it on my TV and my grandson can click and watch a channel, whether it's satellite, over-the-air or cable, the same rules in terms of decency should apply," Barton said last month in Las Vegas, where he addressed the National Association of Broadcasters' convention.

The United States is in the middle of a culture war that shows no signs of abating. It began with the Janet Jackson incident then snowballed with the FCC's $495,000 fine over radio provocateur Howard Stern, which prompted Clear Channel to remove him from six of their radio stations.

Additional fines have since been tallied, and more legislators are threatening to take bigger action if media companies don't start policing themselves better.

The debate has given both sides of the imbroglio a chance to state their vision of the future of American home entertainment. For every Randy Sharp, there's a Robert Corn-Revere, a First Amendment lawyer who says there's little chance the courts will let the FCC or other Washington agencies dictate terms of programming on cable TV.

On behalf of 24 media organizations, Corn-Revere filed a petition with the FCC asking the body to reconsider its ruling against NBC, which was reprimanded for airing a Golden Globes broadcast during which the singer Bono used a seven-letter expletive as an adjective.

"It's not just a question of whether or not, with the stroke of a pen, that Congress -- or the FCC, if it wanted to act on its own -- could extend its power to regulate the media," says Corn-Revere, who's a partner in the Washington, D.C., office of Davis Wright Tremaine LLP. "There really is a separate constitutional standard for regulating one medium, and the courts up to this point have uniformly held that indecency regulations are unconstitutional when applied to cable."

This culture war is an extension of a conflict that goes back decades, to at least 1934, when the Communications Act established the FCC and forbade indecency and obscenity. Revised repeatedly since then, the law prohibits cable and broadcast outlets from airing obscene material. Federal laws also prohibit indecency, a less strict standard that FCC has taken to mean "language or material that, in context, depicts or describes sexual or excretory activities or organs in terms patently offensive as measured by contemporary community standards."

Critics say the FCC and the federal government selectively enforce standards, depending on the political winds. The fact that the White House is occupied by a conservative administration seeking re-election is related to the increase in FCC actions, says Corn-Revere and Bob Eatman, a Los Angeles agent for a spate of radio personalities, including the Chicago shock-jock known as Mancow.

"It's an election year," Eatman says. "Little by little, I think the industry will win these battles, and we'll end up with a self-governing industry as it was before."

Numbers may be the deciding factor in all this. FCC Commissioner Michael Powell -- a Republican who was first appointed by President Bill Clinton -- has said his organization is taking more action these days because of an increase in the number of public complaints about radio and TV.

Janet Jackson's Super Bowl costume mishap generated 500,000 complaints to the FCC -- twice as many as the FCC got in all of 2003. Two years ago, the FCC received just 13,000 complaints. Corn-Revere says advocacy groups like the American Family Association have learned to flood the FCC with e-mail complaints -- something that Sharp helps take credit for.

"We encourage all of our 2.1 million members to contact the FCC," says Sharp, who points out that the organization has a significant membership in California cities, including San Francisco.

"Last year alone, our supporters literally crashed the FCC's e-mail communication system. I think it was on four separate occasions -- to the point that the FCC contacted us and asked if we could stop. They didn't want to censor us, but they said, 'Maybe you could send just so many a day so that we can handle the amount of traffic into our system.' We were pretty happy to oblige."

Since April 21, Sharp says, American Family Association members have sent 700,000 emails to the FCC asking the commission to stick to its decision about NBC and Bono. Sharp is encouraged that the House of Representatives just passed the Broadcast Decency Enforcement Act, which increases the maximum fine for broadcasting "obscene, indecent or profane material" to $500,000. He doesn't have a strict time line for when the FCC might gain oversight of the cable industry.

"I don't see anything happening inside a year," Sharp says. "We understand that when you're dealing with the government, it's not a quick process. In the meantime, the cable industry is making some changes. And Clear Channel has fired Opie & Anthony (a radio team whose biggest stunt was sponsoring a sex encounter inside a New York church) and Howard Stern."

Eatman, who represents Opie & Anthony, says the people's right to say what they want is threatened. "In the climate of fear, I don't think anyone is safe who is on the air," he says. "Anyone who has opinions that the government may feel are worthy of their scrutiny (is a target). It's not just the so-called indecent language that's being curtailed. The fear is that it's any speech that any group finds offensive."

What's especially chilling to Eatman, Corn-Revere and others is that accidental offenses are being penalized as much as deliberate ones. In January, the FCC fined the owners of KRON-TV $27,500 for accidentally broadcasting a live news segment in which a performer from a stage show flashed his genitals. Bono's expletive was also said without malice. But it helped set the stage for a pattern of fines and penalties -- and an environment -- in which lawmakers are discussing the possibility of more regulation and more oversight from the FCC.

[Stinkysteve]

Someone should tell these assholes about the V-Chip, (aptlly named after it's founder, Tipper Gore because she was the first stupid V that started all this shit).
If they are too stupid to program the TV for the V-Chip, they should not have a TV in the first place.
Don't protect me from your stupidity!

[robification]

someone should also tell them that o&a never worked for clear channel

[tysonpunchinguterus]

What kind of asshole pays for cable TV and then complains to the FCC that thier kids might see something "naughty" on it? Hey, dick, cancel your cable subscription and you won't have to worry about it. I'm so sick of these morons who think that it's someone else's job to raise their kids for them. Stop blaming TV, radio, video games, music, and movies for you inability to raise children in even a mediocre fashion. Better yet, stop using children as pawns in your censor-happy "morality" war. These people are so afraid of their own bodies that can't even hear about them with getting a disgusted look on their stupid little faces. These are the people who I wish would accidentally sit on a public toilet seat still wet with another man's herpes-infested urine just so they could feel the utter shame of having to explain to their spouses and doctors exactly what happened. Or maybe have a coked-out hooker run up and plant a sloppy wet kiss right on their mouths as they step off the train on their way to wrok in the morning so that they'll have the added public humiliation of giant herpes sores on their mouths for several days at a time. That ought to take them down a peg or two, I think. It would certaily teach them to stop using children for political purposes in such a disgusting way. If they really cared about their kids, they might actually consider showing them some honest affection once in a while instead of leading their toddlers around on fucking leashes at the mall like a bunch of dogs.

[nikoloslvy]

for more on this check "jim norton rants about an email claiming O & A's style of" on the spreder.

[masbueno8]

I did a ton of research for this paper I wrote about the FCC and what they have been doing to radio. I found out that "indecency" or whatever fag term they use isn't protected by the First Amendment because of a time restriction. This restriction states:

"the First Amendment permits the government to prohibit offensive speech as intrusive when the ‘captive’ audience cannot avoid the objectionable speech."

My point is, the FCC really doesn't have a case because there's how many stations on a typical AM/FM radio dial? The "captive" audience can easily change their station, which makes stuff like Hoo Hoo and O&A (when they were on) protected by the First Amendment.

In the words of Frenchy - SUCK IT YOU WHORE (the FCC).

[Ballbuster1]

"the First Amendment permits the government to prohibit offensive speech as intrusive when the ‘captive’ audience cannot avoid the objectionable speech."

My point is, the FCC really doesn't have a case because there's how many stations on a typical AM/FM radio dial? The "captive" audience can easily change their station, which makes stuff like Hoo Hoo and O&A (when they were on) protected by the First Amendment.I'm not a lawyer and won't pretend to be one. It sounds like a good
angle , but I'm sure the broadcast lawyers have tried it. If not,
then they are truly fools.

[masbueno8]

Another thing that the FCC uses is the Miller Test, which is this 3 step process to determine what's indecent. And the first step is:

"(a) whether the 'average person applying contemporary community standards' would find that the work, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest"

What that does is leave it in the hands of the FCC, not the people which limits our right to freedom of choice. Definitions of decency vary from person to person, which doesn't validate the FCC's reasoning.

I know I really shouldn't be posting this stuff in this thread, since it's for O&A news, but I wanted to share what I found.

[mascan42]

"(a) whether the 'average person applying contemporary community standards' would find that the work, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest"

What that neglects to mention is that the FCC itself, and not the community, determines what community standards are. Thus then they can change their rules as they see fit. As we've seen time and time again over the past couple of years.

[BuffaloPaul]

May 19, 2004

Indecency on the Air
Shock-radio jock Howard Stern remains 'King of All Fines'


Editor's Note: This story has been updated to include new proposed fines issued by the FCC on April 8.


By John Dunbar (http://www.publicintegrity.org/about/staff.aspx#10)


WASHINGTON, April 9, 2004 — The Federal Communications Commission has proposed $4.5 million in fines for broadcast indecency since 1990, with more than half the total assessed to stations that aired shock-radio pioneer Howard Stern.


Yesterday, the FCC proposed a $495,000 fine against six Clear Channel Communications (http://www.publicintegrity.org/telecom/analysis/default.aspx?action=org&ID=183) Corp. stations that aired Stern's show, prompting the giant radio broadcaster to drop the show from its broadcast lineup permanently. On March 18, the FCC proposed a $27,500 fine against Stern for a broadcast that aired in Detroit on July 26, 2001. Before that action, Stern had not been cited since June 1998.


The FCC has sought $2.5 million in fines from stations that carried the controversial New York-based disc jockey's show since 1990, according to the analysis. The bulk of those fines were for shows broadcast between 1991 and 1993. Five separate actions were settled for a record $1.71 million in 1995.

Using FCC records and LexisNexis legal research, the Center for Public Integrity identified 75 broadcast indecency proceedings instigated by the FCC since 1990. The Center focused on proposed fines, called "notices of apparent liability."


The analysis shows five radio shows were responsible for $3.96 million in proposed fines since 1990, or 87 percent of the total. The top four shows aired on stations owned by Clear Channel Communications Corp. or Viacom Inc (http://www.publicintegrity.org/telecom/analysis/default.aspx?action=org&ID=8027).'s Infinity division, the largest and second largest radio broadcasters in the country, respectively.


The Center also identified $152,150 in proposed fines that had been dismissed due to the expiration of the statute of limitations.

Among some of the other findings in the Center's analysis:



So far in 2004, the FCC has proposed more fines for broadcast indecency than the previous 10 years combined.
Not including Stern's 1995 settlement, the largest single fine assessed since 1990 was $715,000 for material broadcast by Clear Channel's "Bubba the Love Sponge" (real name Todd Clem), who was fired recently.
Despite the flap over Janet Jackson's "wardrobe malfunction" during the Super Bowl halftime show on CBS and increasing concern over profanities uttered on awards shows, only three fines were levied against television broadcasters since 1990, about 4 percent of the total.
Increased attention

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In recent weeks, the FCC and Congress have been working furiously to toughen penalties for stations that broadcast offensive material. As of this writing, the House had passed a bill increasing fines from a maximum of $27,500 per occurrence to $500,000, and the Senate was expected to vote soon on a similar bill.

Prior to the most recent FCC enforcement action against Stern, the nation's two biggest radio broadcasters took voluntarily steps to clean up on-air content. Clear Channel, the nation's largest radio company with roughly 1,200 stations, fired Clem and suspended Stern from all six of its stations that carried him. Infinity Broadcasting Corp., the nation's No. 2 broadcaster and syndicator of the Stern show, has instituted a new policy regarding indecent content.

Skeptics say the sudden move toward cleaner airwaves has more to do with politics than with a sudden outbreak of morality.

The crackdown followed Jackson's halftime performance at the Super Bowl where one of her breasts was exposed. According to the FCC, there have been 530,885 complaints so far in 2004 – 530,828 of them were related to the halftime show. That case is under review.

The radio and television industry is deeply invested in a battle going on in Congress related to media concentration rules. An FCC decision to relax rules on how many radio and television stations a single company can own was stayed by a federal court, and a number of bills related to the issue are being debated in both houses of Congress.

Industry analysts consider the ownership fight to be a much more important issue than broadcast indecency in terms of the bottom line, and keeping good relationships with members of Congress is critical right now – even if it means giving ground on indecency legislation.

Stern, who has roughly 8 million weekly listeners, claims he was booted by Clear Channel because of his recent criticism of President George Bush.

Some of Clear Channel's top executives and board members are key supporters of the president. Stern has pointed out during his broadcasts that two of the San Antonio, Texas-based broadcaster's stations that stopped running his show are in key presidential battleground states – Pennsylvania and Florida.

Clear Channel issued a statement saying the disc jockey's politics had nothing to do with the decision.

Stern has said on the air if the Senate passes an indecency bill similar to what sailed through the House, he will quit.

Infinity is owned by giant media conglomerate Viacom, which also owns CBS – the same network that aired Jackson's performance during the Super Bowl halftime show. While Viacom has only owned Infinity since 1999, Viacom President and Chief Operating Officer Mel Karmazin has been with Infinity – and Stern – since the 1980s.

Regulating speech

Regulating speech on the nation's airwaves is exceedingly difficult, and regulators are forced to walk a fine line between listeners who in many cases are deeply offended by what they see or hear and the First Amendment rights of broadcasters.

The basic guidelines have changed little since a landmark 1978 Supreme Court case when the FCC's authority to regulate indecent speech was upheld.

Broadcast indecency is defined as "language or material that, in context, depicts or describes, in terms patently offensive as measured by contemporary community standards for the broadcast medium, sexual and excretory activities or organs."

The agency may fine a broadcaster or, in extremely rare cases, revoke the station's license.

The FCC does not police the airwaves independently. It relies on complaints from listeners and viewers. Once a complaint comes in, it is investigated. The agency then has a limited period of time to file an action known as a notice of apparent liability. The broadcaster then has several opportunities to appeal. This back and forth can go on for years.

Occasionally, the agency fails to act quickly enough and a case is dropped.

Statute of limitations

According to the Center analysis, the average amount of time between the first airing of an indecent broadcast and the proposal of a fine since 1990 was 523 days. The law requires the commission to issue a notice of apparent liability within a year of the broadcast or by the date of its next license renewal, whichever is later.

Broadcasters often complain about the length of time it takes for the agency to determine whether a penalty is warranted.

The Center was able to identify five instances since 1990 where fines totaling $152,150 were canceled due to the expiration of the statute of limitations. Stern's show was responsible for more than three-quarters of the total.

One case examined by the Center went on for nearly nine years. On Aug. 30, 1991, Flambo Broadcasting Inc.'s KFMH-FM in Muscatine, Iowa, aired jokes the FCC deemed indecent.

A fine was issued on April 1, 1994. But it wasn't until July 27, 2000 that the FCC officially closed the books and dismissed the complaint.

More recently, a radio broadcast license holder named Edmund Dinis, whose station aired a talk show in New Bedford, Mass., had a fine of $22,400 dismissed because too much time had passed.

The Spanish language broadcast involved "jokes involving anal sex, oral sex, excretory activities and sexual intercourse with a child present." The initial broadcast was on Dec. 5, 2000, but a fine wasn't issued until Dec. 13, 2002. It was dismissed this past February.

Tracking fines difficult

Analyzing fines issued by the FCC for indecency or any other misdeed by the businesses the agency regulates is a difficult undertaking, Center researchers found.

The FCC only keeps information on fines from 2000 forward. When the Center sought access to civil actions prior to that year, it was suggested that researchers use a private legal research service.

Finding out whether the FCC has collected the fines it has issued prior to 2000 is an even more challenging undertaking. This problem was highlighted in an extremely critical report released by the General Accounting Office, the watchdog arm of Congress, in August 1999 entitled "FCC Does Not Know if All Required Fees are Collected."

In that report, the GAO notes that at the end of fiscal year 1998 the FCC estimated it had an uncollected balance of about $15 million for all civil monetary penalties, including indecency. FCC officials told the GAO that about 75 percent of the outstanding proposed or assessed penalties would remain uncollected.

The GAO study also found that the FCC's reports to Treasury contain errors and are "therefore not reliable. As a result, we cannot reach any conclusions about the effectiveness of FCC's collection of civil monetary penalties."

The difficulty for the FCC is that, even when a company exhausts its appeals and the FCC upholds a fine, the commission has no authority to collect it. The case is referred to the Department of Justice where the whole process may well start all over again.

Since the formation of the FCC's Enforcement Bureau in November of 1999, the agency's record keeping has improved. A report submitted to U.S. Rep. John Dingell by Powell shows the vast majority of indecency fines issued since 1994 have been paid.

Big radio, big fines

Powell has said publicly the FCC has been cracking down on broadcast indecency in recent years.

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"This Commission, since I took over, has worked diligently to increase our enforcement efforts," Powell told the National Press Club on Jan. 14. "And I do think the enforcement efforts and fines we have levied have far surpassed those applied by previous commissions combined."

There is no question the total amount of proposed fines has gone up. But total indecency actions actually dipped slightly.

Thus far in 2004, the FCC has proposed six fines totaling $1.6 million, the most of any year in the Center's analysis. The total is more than the previous 10 years of proposed fines combined.

The large increases in the proposed fines are the result of syndication. While the most a single station can be fined is $27,500, the total can add up quickly if there are multiple counts of indecency airing on several radio stations airing the same broadcast.

If Congress passes indecency legislation now under consideration, those totals will skyrocket.

In terms of total fines, no broadcast compares to the long-running Stern show. Second behind Stern for the largest amount of proposed fines is Clem, with $753,000; third is the Opie and Anthony Show, now off the air, with $378,500; fourth is "Elliot in the Morning" which broadcasts in the Washington, D.C. area, with $302,500; fifth is long-time Chicago disc jockey Erich "Mancow" Muller with $42,000 in proposed fines.

Stern and the Opie and Anthony Show were aired on Infinity stations at the time of the offenses while Clem and Elliot in the Morning were aired on Clear Channel stations. Muller's show is broadcast by Emmis Communications Corp (http://www.publicintegrity.org/telecom/analysis/default.aspx?action=org&ID=8041).

Clem has been shocking listeners in the Tampa Bay area for years. He was acquitted of animal cruelty charges for killing a wild boar on the air. Four Clear Channel stations were fined $715,000 for broadcasting indecent material (plus $40,000 for bad record keeping).

Infinity's Opie and Anthony were fired for broadcasting a live account of a couple allegedly having sex in St. Patrick's Cathedral in New York City. That stunt sparked a huge protest from the Catholic Church and proposed fines totaling $378,500.

The "Elliot in the Morning" show was issued a $247,500 proposed fine last week for broadcasting an interview with a woman describing (in detail) why she admires porn star Ron Jeremy. The Washington D.C.-area disc jockey was also fined $55,000 for a May 2002 show where high school girls talked about their sex lives.

TV stations rarely fined

Fines against broadcast television stations are exceedingly rare. Even when U2 lead vocalist Bono shouted "this is really, really f***ing brilliant" at the Golden Globe Awards, it still did not rise to the level of indecency, at least not initially. The FCC recently decided that it was indecent, but opted not to issue a fine.

The last time a television station was fined was for an Oct. 4, 2002, morning news broadcast on KRON-TV in San Francisco, owned by Young Broadcasting. The FCC issued a $27,500 fine when one of the performers of the stage production "Puppetry of the Penis" exposed himself while preparing to demonstrate "genital origami."

On March 30, 2001, the FCC proposed a $21,000 fine against Spanish language television broadcaster Telemundo in Puerto Rico. And on June 24, 1997, the FCC issued a $2,000 fine to a television station in Lynchburg, Va., for broadcasting an expletive-filled science fiction movie.

But for now, the emphasis is clearly on radio.

Howard Stern has said on the air that if Congress passes the indecency bill now under debate, that he will quit his show. This no doubt has created some angst at Infinity given the DJ's ability to bring in huge revenues.

Reuters reports that Stern's show generates as much as $100 million in advertising and fees for Infinity.

Stern's chief defender over the years has been Viacom president Karmazin. The powerful executive joined Infinity in 1981 and helped build the company into one of the most profitable radio broadcasting companies in the nation.

Karmazin rose through the ranks through a series of acquisitions, culminating in the 1999 purchase of CBS Inc. by Viacom. Karmazin has weathered numerous controversies involving the shock jock.

Karmazin has cracked down on indecent broadcasts at Infinity, but has never been shy about his reasons for backing Stern. In 1992, he told the Wall Street Journal, "The format of choice at Infinity is the one that has the largest cash flow." http://www.publicintegrity.org/telecom/report.aspx?aid=239&sid=200

[Rob]

here we go again with the "fired" crap...

[FNsnatch]

The sickening thing is that Stern's fcc fines exceed O&A's and yet he's STILL on the air?! How tragic....

[mascan42]

From the NY Post:

RAUNCHY MAXIM LUSTS AFTER SAT RADIO



May 23, 2004 -- Bawdy men's magazine Maxim is in talks with two satellite radio companies to launch a branded channel that would likely reflect the sex-packed articles and down-and-dirty humor of the publication.



The negotiations come as New York-based Sirius Satellite Radio and Washington, DC-based XM Satellite Radio hope to capitalize on the Federal Communications Commission's crackdown on indecency.

Satellite radio is quickly becoming the home for bad-boy brands.

Like pay-cable stations, satellite radio is not subject to FCC regulation.

New York shock jocks Opie and Anthony, booted off the air after promoting sex in a church, are negotiating with both Sirius and XM. Chicago loudmouth Mancow Mueller, whose on air antics brought WKQX a $14,000 FCC fine last month, may defect to the dish as well. And King of Raunch Howard Stern hinted that he'd consider a move.

"It's going to be a massive platform in the near future," said talent agent Robert Eatman.

Eatman's clients, such as Opie and Anthony, are lured by the Wild-West freedom the fledging satellite radio industry offers. While it's unlikely that Stern will make a move soon - his paycheck is said to be a hefty $30 million and he's still under contract - satellite radio executives are scooping out deals with other R-rated brands.

XM already has a premium service deal with Playboy in which subscribers pay an extra $3.99 a month to listen to programs such as "Sex Court."

Officials with both XM and Sirius declined to comment.

XM, with 1.7 million subscribers, has more clout than Sirius, which has about 400,000. But just last week, Sirius announced a deal with EchoStar that gives it exposure to the satellite TV brand's 9.7 million subscribers.

Analysts say these satellite companies and their advertisers are salivating to bring in risqué names - and the free-spending 18-34 year old male audience they attract. "These are the people who have the money and are spending it," said Bear Stearns analyst Robert Peck.

[BuffaloPaul]

"It's going to be a massive platform in the near future," said talent agent Robert Eatman.

Eatman's clients, such as Opie and Anthony, are lured by the Wild-West freedom the fledging satellite radio industry offers.
GREAT ARTICLE MASCAN! :clap:

When they mentioned "the Wild-West"... how many of you pictured that recent shot of Opie and Imus that was released both wearing cowboy hats... with a caption underneath... "There's a NEW sheriff in town!"

Come on Photoshop people... let's get crack'en on this one...

http://www.opieandanthony.com/images/05212004_opie_imus.jpg
:bigok

[Netzy]

You beat me to it, Mascan!

This is an ideal situation, if it's true. (it is the NY Post....)

This is what I thought might happen. I'm just shocked I may have thought right. And VERY pleased I did. I did not want to have to switch to XM. I LOVE sirius' programming and I have been unimpressed by XMs. Hopefully both land the station if it is, indeed, true.

[Stinkysteve]

A pair of handcuffs would be an easy shot on Imus!

[chewonmysac]

DCRTV.com

O&A "Days Away" From Announcing Return? - 5/25 - http://www.dcrtv.com/xmoa.jpgThe NY Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/ent_radio/story/196549p-169765c.html) reports that Opie and Anthony - the former WJFK-FM PM drive hosts who have been off the radio since their August 2002 "Sex in St. Patrick's" stunt knocked their NYC host station, WNEW, clean out of the hot-talk business - could be days away from returning. Their contract with Infinity Broadcasting expires on 5/31, and their website (http://www.opieandanthony.com/) says "Cringe Radio" will then return. The big question is where. Most bets are on satellite radio, which doesn't have the content restrictions and general nervousness hanging over terrestrial radio. This photo (right) of O&A at the HQ of DC's XM was taken recently.....

Kinder

[chewonmysac]

Anthony - the former WNEW hosts who have been off the radio since their August 2002 "Sex in St. Patrick's" stunt knocked WNEW clean out of the hot-talk business - could be days away from returning.
Their contract with Infinity Broadcasting expires May 31, and their Web site says "Cringe Radio" will then return.

The big question is where.

Most bets are on satellite radio, which doesn't have the content restrictions and general nervousness hanging over terrestrial radio.

"Satellite is wonderful for any broadcaster who has problems on terrestrial radio," says Michael Harrison, editor of Talkers magazine.

XM and Sirius satellite radio both readily acknowledge they're looking for hosts like O&A who could raise their profile and draw additional paying customers. Their official position, however, is no-comment.

"I know there's scuttlebutt about Opie and Anthony coming to us or XM," Elise Brown of Sirius said yesterday. "We'll talk with anyone. But we wouldn't have any announcement without contracts."

"We're always looking at opportunities," said Chance Patterson of XM. "But we don't have any specific statement in regard to Opie and Anthony."

Sirius, where Opie and Anthony have been seen paying visits, is considered by most to be the front-runner. It has generally been a little more adventurous in its programing and O&A's old WNEW program director, Jeremy Coleman, works there.

Also, with 400,000 subscribers compared with 1.5 million for XM, Sirius could use a splash.

Money is obviously an issue, since both satellite companies lose it by the bucketload. After Howard Stern talked about moving to satellite because of the FCC's indecency crackdown, XM chief Hugo Panero said he'd probably cost too much. But if Sirius gained 20,000 $12.95-a-month subscribers because of O&A, that's $2.59 million a month, or $31 million a year.

On the other side, satellite still reaches fewer people than terrestrial radio, which is one reason Harrison says he wouldn't be surprised to see O&A on a combination of satellite and terrestrial. That's increasingly common with hosts like Jonathan Schwartz of WNYC and XM.

O&A's options could still be limited if their expiring Infinity contract has a noncompete clause. But the train is rolling. They were hosts of a show at the Hard Rock on Friday, and they have a new best friend in morning host Imus of WFAN.

Opie and Anthony used to joke about Imus being older than dirt, but he always regarded them with a kind of bemused interest, and he said yesterday he'd like to see them back on the air.

AROUND THE DIAL: Tom Gervat of WFMU (91.1 FM) revisits music of 1905-1930 tonight at 7.... Also today on WFMU, noon-3 p.m., Joe Belock features garage legends the Chesterfield Kings.

Originally published on May 25, 2004



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[cringebox]

Hugo Panero said he'd probably cost too much. But if Sirius gained 20,000 $12.95-a-month subscribers because of O&A, that's $2.59 million a month, or $31 million a year.


I hope Hugo isn't counting on those numbers. That's $259,000 a month, $3 million a year.

[mascan42]

Probably a typo.

[Spank Daddy]

I don't think it's a typo, just a flat out mistake, since they used the word "million" after the monthly figure.........it's just another example of how the press has their heads up their ass. Read some speculation on a message board, write a story, and steal a paycheck. Somebody should buy David Hinckley a friggin' calculator.

[anotherbfp]

Probably meant 200,000, not 20,000, subsribers a month. That equals 2.59 mil I think. If sirius has only 400,000 and xm has 1.5 mil subscribers it seems plausible enough that O&A could add another 200,000.

[Rob]

Probably meant 200,000, not 20,000, subsribers a month. That equals 2.59 mil I think.
you are correct sir...

[jpc165]

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Sirius Satellite Radio CEO Joseph Clayton told stockholders on Tuesday the company's plans include a video service, wearable radios, and the signing of a top shock jock such as Howard Stern. "Do we want Opie & Anthony? Do we want Mancow? Do we want Howard Stern?" Clayton said, referring to some of the most popular, though controversial, morning radio personalities. "We're talking to all of them." Shock Jocks like Howard Stern have begun to talk about satellite radio as a potential outlet, given a regulatory push against broadcasts that are deemed indecent. None of the top names have yet moved over to satellite. Clayton faced a much different audience in the annual meeting of shareholders on Tuesday than last fall when Sirius' stock price was trading well below $3 and shareholders were angry and vocal. This time Clayton mostly basked in praise from the group, but cautioned that the company may never catch market leader XM Satellite Radio in subscriptions, but could, like EchoStar's Dish Network in satellite TV, become a profitable number two. He reiterated the company's forecast for the year, saying Sirius would reach 1 million subscriptions and $75 million in revenue by year-end. He said his top executives would receive stock awards based on meeting those and other projections. Clayton said the company's next generation of radios, which he calls generation 2.5, would reach stores in August accompanied by a marketing push heading into the holiday season. The company's third generation of devices, due to market in the fall of 2005, will include much smaller, wearable radios, due to miniaturization achieved by chip supplier STMicroelectronics . Clayton said the company would introduce at least four but possibly as many as eight video channels targeted at children riding in the back seats of cars. One million cars were sold with video equipment in the back seats in 2003 and 4 million are expected to be sold in 2004, he said. "We are being pressed hard by our car partners to move into video," Clayton told Reuters. Clayton expects the company to win approval to sell Sirius service in Canada in the first quarter of 2005 and is in talks with a Latin American partner to sell the service in Mexico. :icon_conf



http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040525/media_nm/media_sirius_dc_4

[chewonmysac]

I don't see AP.

[Seth]

"Clayton said the company would introduce at least four but possibly as many as eight video channels"


Holy shit! New Stinky Cam! The boys gotta go with Sirius!

[SpotcheckBilly]

On the other side, satellite still reaches fewer people than terrestrial radio, which is one reason Harrison says he wouldn't be surprised to see O&A on a combination of satellite and terrestrial. That's increasingly common with hosts like Jonathan Schwartz of WNYC and XM.

This would be the best, if they were on the air in NYC, and on satellite as well. I personally hope this is how it shakes down..

[mascan42]

That's what I've always thought would happen: they'll come back on Sirius at first, and then syndicate an edited replay of the show to regular radio once the current "indecency" furor dies down. When people complain that O&A without any restrictions won't be as entertaining, I always say they won't be too explicit so the show won't need to be edited too much for rebroadcast.

[ResinIII]

That's what I've always thought would happen: they'll come back on Sirius at first, and then syndicate an edited replay of the show to regular radio once the current "indecency" furor dies down. When people complain that O&A without any restrictions won't be as entertaining, I always say they won't be too explicit so the show won't need to be edited too much for rebroadcast.

I like the way you think mascan....I just hope it turns out that way!!

[FBA]

"Clayton said the company would introduce at least four but possibly as many as eight video channels"


Holy shit! New Stinky Cam! The boys gotta go with Sirius!
nothing like ignoring the last part of the sentence.

[Rob]

http://www.reuters.com/financeNewsArticle.jhtml?type=bondsNews&storyID=5253035


"Do we want Opie & Anthony? Do we want Mancow? Do we want Howard Stern?" Clayton said, referring to some of the most popular, though controversial, morning radio personalities. "We're talking to all of them."

[BuffaloPaul]

'Eye on Chicago' still blind
to CBS conflicts


May 25, 2004 BY ROBERT FEDER (feder@suntimes.com) SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST...


The last time we looked in on "Eye on Chicago," the WBBM-Channel 2 magazine show had morphed from a respectable weekly showcase for news anchor Antonio Mora into a shameless promotional tool for the CBS-owned station and its parent company.

Judging by the latest installment of the show, that seems to be just what Channel 2 has ordered.

Sunday night's edition of "Eye on Chicago" featured back-to-back interviews with William Petersen, star of the CBS series "CSI," and Harry Smith, host of "The Early Show," also on CBS. Mora's chat with Smith, who was in Chicago to broadcast his morning news show Friday from Navy Pier, was particularly fawning and superficial.

When asked about an "Eye on Chicago" broadcast earlier this month that featured nothing but segments related to CBS and other interests of its Viacom Inc. owner, Mora described it as "an exception to the rule."

After the audacious puffery of last weekend's show, however, it's become harder than ever to give Mora & Co. a pass.

Tracking: Foul weather

*During its broadcast of Scott Turow's "Reversible Errors" on CBS Sunday night, Channel 2 committed a few errors of its own. Between 8 and 8:32 p.m., the station cut away from the movie three times for extended weather reports from Mary Kay Kleist.

Unlike some stations, which scrolled warnings along the bottom of the screen, Channel 2 angered viewers by belaboring the bulletins and rendering the movie's plot "incomprehensible," according to one of numerous complaints the station received.

"We were not insensitive to our viewers," said a Channel 2 spokeswoman. "We erred on the side of caution knowing there were several severe weather warnings in our area."

*News anchor Allison Payne closes out the May ratings sweeps by moderating "A Child Is Waiting," a town hall meeting on adoption, from 9:30 to 10 p.m. Wednesday on WGN-Channel 9. The event will air from Channel 9 studios at 2501 W. Bradley Pl.

Panelists will include Bryan Samuels, director of the Illinois Department of Children and Family Services, and the Rev. Michael Pfleger, an adoptive parent.

For more information, see: www.wgntv.com (http://www.wgntv.com/)

*The University of Chicago's famed Oriental Institute, which is celebrating its 85th anniversary, will be the subject of two WTTW-Channel 11 documentaries this week. Both are produced by Len Aronson.

"Breaking Ground: The Story of the Oriental Institute," airing at 9 p.m. Thursday and narrated by Kerry Frumkin, focuses on the history of the academic organization devoted to the study of early civilizations.

"Pioneer to the Past: The Life and Times of James Henry Breasted," airing at 8:30 p.m. Friday and narrated by John Callaway, profiles the scholar who founded the institute.

*Although best known for his trailblazing career in print journalism as a columnist and reporter, the late Vernon Jarrett had strong ties to Chicago broadcasting, including a 30-year run as a public-affairs talk show host at WLS-Channel 7.

After Mr. Jarrett signed off in 1998, the ABC-owned station donated more than 200 tapes of his shows -- including "Black on Black," "Face to Face" and "Sunday in Chicago" -- to the Chicago Public Library.

Services for Mr. Jarrett, who died of cancer Sunday, will be at 1 p.m. Saturday at Rainbow-PUSH headquarters, 930 E. 50th.

Dialing: Dishing up Mancow?

*The betting here is that Mancow Muller will renew with WKQX-FM (101.1) when his "Morning Madhouse" contract with the Emmis Communications station expires in July. But Muller's agent, Robert Eatman, dropped a bombshell about his client's future in the New York Post over the weekend.

In light of the freedom that Sirius Satellite Radio and XM Satellite Radio enjoy from government regulation of content, Eatman told the newspaper that Muller may defect to one of the two satellite networks. Eatman also represents former New York shock jocks Gregg "Opie" Hughes and Anthony Cumia, who are negotiating with both Sirius and XM.

"It's going to be a massive platform in the near future," Eatman said of satellite radio.

*The "Wheel of Formats" at WRZA-FM (99.9) stops today on jazz. A different format will air each day until a permanent one rolls out next month.

http://www.suntimes.com/output/feder/cst-fin-feder25.html

[Smoke]

Am I seeing a lineup on satelite of...

Mancow (f hoo hoo, imus craps blood)
Shake it up Scott
OpAck
R&F
Monsters of the Overnight?

[BuffaloPaul]

The Daily Imus

Quotes, Required Reading, Imus Stuff and Much More...

Newsweek's Howard Fineman (http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3672155/site/newsweek/) will talk to Imus at 7:29 am ET. Find out why Fineman says George W. Bush has rolled out a secret new weapon in his campaign.... his wife. Is Laura Bush learning about how to handle the general public from her mother-in-law?...
...
IMUS STUFF

"O&A's options could still be limited if their expiring Infinity contract has a noncompete clause. But the train is rolling. They were hosts of a show at the Hard Rock on Friday, and they have a new best friend in morning host Imus of WFAN."
Opie & Anthony Countdown's On (http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/story/196548p-169765c.html)http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3226997/

[Hoagie]

i love how they always mention Jeremy Coleman as a reason why Sirius is considered the front runner. The boys never had anything but nice things to say about him when they were at WNEW.

[mascan42]

I wonder if Jeremy still takes the 3 hour lunch breakes with MelissaThat was Ken Stevens.

[Rob]

maybe he did too...

[norton23]

This shit is hitting the fan big time, wtf is going on with there return???????? No News = NO GOOD, I don't believe shit untill foundry or the boys themselves say something:icon_neut

[SaltyDelights]

Did DCRTV fall for that Geocities site gag?O&A To Make June Annoucement - 5/27 - Opie and Anthony will be making public their future radio plans on 6/2 at 7:29 AM, when they guest with Don Imus - heard locally on WTNT and seen on MSNBC. The PM drive radio duo, once heard on Infinity's WJFK-FM, got yanked off the air in 2002 after that infamous "sex in a church" stunt. Their contract with Infinity expires at the end of May. It has been widely rumored that O&A may jump to satellite radio, which is free of FCC "indecency" regulations.....http://www.dcrtv.org/

[Rob]

hahahahaha.... salty delights... nice!!!

[wad2k]

http://theedge.bostonherald.com/tvNews/view.bg?articleid=29644

EXILE MAY END: How anxious are former Boston radio bad boys Opie and Anthony to get back on the air? Their contract with Infinity (which has kept them incommunicado after a stunt involving sex in St. Patrick's Cathedral cost the guys their show) expires Monday, and their Web site (www.centralwow.com) features two countdown clocks: how long they've been off the air and how long before they're free men. They've promised a quick return once they're free of Infinity, but they've offered no details

Their web site???? www.centralwow.com?????? No wonders we don't know anything....We have been going to the wrong website all this time!!!!!!
Stupid Boston Herald! They stink

[CrunchyJunk]

Their web site???? www.centralwow.com?????? (http://www.centralwow.com/??????) No wonders we don't know anything....We have been going to the wrong website all this time!!!!!!
Stupid Boston Herald! They stinkYea, what the f'in dilly???

And what is this about on centralwow?:


8/11/2003 - Opie and Anthony's August 23rd Gathering[back (http://javascript<b></b>:history.go(-1))]
From opieandanthony.com:

The Party is official! We've reached an agreement with the owners of the bar and can now officially announce the details.
Donovan's Reef
Sea Bright, New Jersey
August 23, 2003
3PM - Closing Time
Check out the Official O&A Party Site for all the details....

http://www.buffnet.net/%7Epaulk/oaparty/oaparty.html (http://www.buffnet.net/%7Epaulk/oaparty/oaparty.html)






check out the link, it's just a the show opening. I looked on opieandanthony.com for any indication that this is true, couldn't find anything. WHAT IS THIS ALL ABOUT???
anyone, anyone, Bueller, Bueller....

[Rob]

thats 2003...

[CrunchyJunk]

thats 2003...
oh man, I'm an asstool....

[wad2k]

Or as Ant would say ..you..you.you "ASS-F"

[CrunchyJunk]

Or as Ant would say ..you..you.you "ASS-F"
In the words of more-gooder:

Yea, what he said.

[MrSquidlow]

deek

[Rob]

In the words of more-gooder:

Yea, what he said.
nice... :bigok

[palefishbelly]

I cut and pasted this from cringehumor.net (http://www.cringehumor.net) . It could be speculation, but sounds pretty legit, and even has a mention of wackbag even though it is spelled wrong. Here you go...


Norton at the Factory this weekend... Updates
« on: Today at 1:44am »
http://www.cringehumor.net/YaBBImages/quote.gif Quote (http://www.cringehumor.net/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=other_comics;action=post;num=108590 3075;quote=0;title=Post+reply;start=0) http://www.cringehumor.net/YaBBImages/modify.gif Modify (http://www.cringehumor.net/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=other_comics;action=modify;message= 0;thread=1085903075)
Sup all...

For those who haven't seen Norton this weekend at the Stress Factory make sure you head over for his show on Sunday...

He's got a lot of new material and some of the stories he was telling were great... plus it's just good to support our Lil' Jimmy here in Jersey...

Opie was there as usual and the opening folks were pretty damn good... including a set by none other than Club Soda Kenny, which was... well... funny... yet disturbing... but he did get people laughing and it wasn't "Billy Staples-Esq" at all.

Jimmy was outside after the shows whoring is stuff and talking to everyone... He's got a DVD out now that has 3 short movies on it, I think he plans to have it up on his site soon for those who can't make it out to the shows...

They weren't able to say anything about what is on everyone's minds... so to answer everyone's questions...:
1) They don't know if it will be Sirius or XM
2) Still not sure on the non-compete bullshit
3) Opie will be on Imus this week... the rumor is June 2nd early in the AM, like 7:30-ish

All Opie could say was to keep your eyes on the usual spots, opieandanthony.com; whackbag.com; here; etc... when it breaks it will break big! He's hoping it will happen next week sometime... so get ready to make the mad dash to Best Buy to pick up the http://www.cringehumor.net/YaBBImages/huh.gifhttp://www.cringehumor.net/YaBBImages/huh.gif Satellite service!!!

Also... there are rumors going around about some kind of show at the Stress Factory in June with Norton, Vos, Artie Lang, KC Armstrong; Florentine and Rev. Bob Levy... some sort of fundraiser...

Later Y'all...

[BuffaloPaul]

3) Opie will be on Imus this week... the rumor is June 2nd early in the AM, like 7:30-ish

All Opie could say was to keep your eyes on the usual spots, opieandanthony.com; whackbag.com; here; etc... when it breaks it will break big! He's hoping it will happen next week sometime... so get ready to make the mad dash to Best Buy to pick up the http://www.cringehumor.net/YaBBImages/huh.gifhttp://www.cringehumor.net/YaBBImages/huh.gif Satellite service!!! I had to find if this was an official statement from Patrick at Cringehumor.net or if it was just a fan posting it on the message board.

I found the post by "matty76" (http://www.cringehumor.net/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=other_comics;action=display;num=108 5903075) which is still nice to hear (and I also wish he would have spelled "wackbag.com" correctly). I am glad Opie is giving us top billing among message boards when talking to fans of the show and telling them where to get the latest info! :xyxthumbs


Thanks for finding this "palefishbelly"!

[Rob]

thats a nice read... it wont be long now...

[palefishbelly]

I had to find if this was an official statement from Patrick at Cringehumor.net or if it was just a fan posting it on the message board.

I found the post by "matty76" (http://www.cringehumor.net/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=other_comics;action=display;num=108 5903075) which is still nice to hear (and I also wish he would have spelled "wackbag.com" correctly). I am glad Opie is giving us top billing among message boards when talking to fans of the show and telling them where to get the latest info! :xyxthumbs


Thanks for finding this "palefishbelly"!
No problem, It is not an offical statement from Patrick, if Opie did tell matty76 about Imus it does lend some legitamatcy to the geocities site. At least I think that is where the rumor started. In addition to spelling wackbag correctly, I really wish it had AP beside it.:haha7:

[Grasso]

http://www.bethere.tv/story.asp?sid=67


Old school O&A media

[Ballbuster1]

http://www.bethere.tv/DBimages/thumb/Opey_and_Anthony2_thumb.jpg (javascript:pic_pop('67', '2');)http://www.bethere.tv/DBimages/thumb/Opey_and_Anthony1_thumb.jpg (javascript:pic_pop('67', '1');)
NICE ! Good find Grasso......:clap:

[palefishbelly]

Jesus Christ guys... I fucking wrote the thing at almost 2 am with a "few" drinks in me... and you are right:

1) I should have added "AP"....
2) I'm lucky I didn't misspell more of that post...
3) I also should have posted it here too (again, clouded judgment)...

I'll go stand in the corner now...
No worries matty, we appreciate the posting (even if it wasn't here first:icon_evil ) Just kidding, someone would have found it. Thanks for taking the time for posting it. As far the misspelling goes, look no farther than wackbag's FedExEd and his awful spelling, but he does so much for the army you can overlook it. Thanks again.

[Radio Dentist]

im hoping 92.3 k rock or Q 104 That would rule !!!:fight6: :clap:

[cmack]

http://www.foundrymusic.com/opie_anthony_are_back.htm

[MrSquidlow]

http://www.foundrymusic.com/opieanthony/displayheadline.cfm?id=5230&CurrentPage=1

[FUCKNEW]

im hoping 92.3 k rock or Q 104 That would rule !!!:fight6: :clap:

Why the F would Opie go on Imus to say he was going to be on K-Rock???

[Ballbuster1]

Why the F would Opie go on Imus to say he was going to be on K-Rock???Aw, come on ... that makes perfect sense to me"whaa"

[C Word Alert]

Found this on google. Nothing much new though. Damn O&A and their "silly little internet jokes"http://www.jsonline.com/enter/tvradio/jun04/233637.asp

[mascan42]

Here's the actual article:

Jocks may shock the satellite radio waves

Posted: June 1, 2004

Although they didn't announce Tuesday that they were joining Sirius Satellite Radio as had been the buzz, New York City shock jocks "Opie and Anthony" may still jump to pay radio.

If they do, it could signal a move to satellite for performers too hot for traditional radio in the post-Super Bowl peep show environment.

The country's two competing satellite radio companies, Sirius and XM Satellite, each provide around 100 channels of programming to subscribers for around $10 a month, without the same FCC controls that commercial radio deals with.

The person to watch in all this is the king of the shock jocks - Howard Stern - whose guru, Mel Karmazin, resigned Tuesday as head of Viacom.

Stern's raunchy antics have drawn FCC fines, and he's talked about leaving broadcast radio. But signing him would cost millions. Neither second-place Sirius (with just 400,000 subscribers) nor XM (with more than 1.5 million subscribers) may want to invest in him.

More affordable are Opie and Anthony (Gregg Hughes and Anthony Cumia), who were taken off the air by WNEW-FM after airing a phone call from listeners having sex in St. Patrick's Cathedral in 2002. The pair had posted a clock at www.opieandanthony.com counting down to the end of their contract Tuesday.

By the time the clock expired, they had posted a silly little Internet joke about the status of their satellite deal.

[FUCKNEW]

Here's the actual article:

Jocks may shock the satellite radio waves

Posted: June 1, 2004

Although they didn't announce Tuesday that they were joining Sirius Satellite Radio as had been the buzz, New York City shock jocks "Opie and Anthony" may still jump to pay radio.

If they do, it could signal a move to satellite for performers too hot for traditional radio in the post-Super Bowl peep show environment.

The country's two competing satellite radio companies, Sirius and XM Satellite, each provide around 100 channels of programming to subscribers for around $10 a month, without the same FCC controls that commercial radio deals with.

The person to watch in all this is the king of the shock jocks - Howard Stern - whose guru, Mel Karmazin, resigned Tuesday as head of Viacom.

Stern's raunchy antics have drawn FCC fines, and he's talked about leaving broadcast radio. But signing him would cost millions. Neither second-place Sirius (with just 400,000 subscribers) nor XM (with more than 1.5 million subscribers) may want to invest in him.

More affordable are Opie and Anthony (Gregg Hughes and Anthony Cumia), who were taken off the air by WNEW-FM after airing a phone call from listeners having sex in St. Patrick's Cathedral in 2002. The pair had posted a clock at www.opieandanthony.com (http://www.opieandanthony.com/) counting down to the end of their contract Tuesday.

By the time the clock expired, they had posted a silly little Internet joke about the status of their satellite deal.
FUCK STERN. He has only been talking about going to sat radio to steal some O&A Thunder. How else can he "Transform the Sat industry" while still having 18 months on his contract?

[chopsueychris]

I totally agree. It's just a whine and cry effort from Stern..Who IMO does have a reason to bitch while stuck in his contract. if he wasnt in it for the money he would definalty walk away from his show and forfeit the what is it I heard somewhere? 20 mil left on the contract(with syndication and E! tv deal attached). Breach of contract. And in 6 months he is free. Or sue to get out of his contract. Create real waves and burn the FCC etc. Howard just complains.... O and A were stuck in a contract for 18 months BUT got a few million they didn't have before and was the right deal financially... Howard hasn't needed the money in 10 yrs.

[blylek]

I totally agree. It's just a whine and cry effort from Stern..Who IMO does have a reason to bitch while stuck in his contract. if he wasnt in it for the money he would definalty walk away from his show and forfeit the what is it I heard somewhere? 20 mil left on the contract(with syndication and E! tv deal attached). Breach of contract. And in 6 months he is free. Or sue to get out of his contract. Create real waves and burn the FCC etc. Howard just complains.... O and A were stuck in a contract for 18 months BUT got a few million they didn't have before and was the right deal financially... Howard hasn't needed the money in 10 yrs.
So he should risk lossing millions and the potential to get sued for millions more to go to satellite? That makes no sense. What is wrong with working on radio "for the money". I gaurantee you that O&A wont work for peanuts and they would not walk away from millions either. THey had no choice in the matter since they were fired...but I can gaurantee you that given the same choice as Stern, there is no way they would walk away. There is a reason why these guys are rich and its not because they are stupid.

Personally, I hope Sirius or XM gets both Howard and O&A. I would subscribe for either show and both shows would make it that much better. I don't understand why there has to be such a competition between listeners of Stern and O&A. It is possible to enjoy BOTH shows. It is possible to be fans of BOTH shows.

blylek

[Miles Long KCRH]

So he should risk lossing millions and the potential to get sued for millions more to go to satellite? That makes no sense. What is wrong with working on radio "for the money".
If that would allow anyone, Howard, O&A, or anyone to do what they love, the way they want, and still get paid..... I would say it is worth it. It is not very common for someone to become a talk radio host for the $$$

It would be working on radio "for the love of" and not really "for the money" which I believe is a transition that will take place for many DJ's

[cringebox]

FUCK STERN. He has only been talking about going to sat radio to steal some O&A Thunder. How else can he "Transform the Sat industry" while still having 18 months on his contract?
It's amazing. He doesn't miss a trick latching onto everything O&A are doing. This morning he said "Howie always wins in the end". I almost shit.

[BuffaloPaul]

It's amazing. He doesn't miss a trick latching onto everything O&A are doing. This morning he said "Howie always wins in the end". I almost shit.

Here's the 3 minute audio clip that Cringebox was talking about...


http://www.buffnet.net/~paulk/goo/Howard-will-rise-like-a-Phoenix.mp3



It is also apparent that Howie stole a line from that fucked up geocities site! ::hammer: "Howie wins in the end evertime!"

[Rob]

Here's the 3 minute audio clip that Cringebox was talking about...


http://www.buffnet.net/~paulk/goo/Howard-will-rise-like-a-Phoenix.mp3



It is also apparent that Howie stole a line from that fucked up geocities site! ::hammer: "Howie wins in the end evertime!"
you gotta be f'n kidding me... what an ass wipe...

[matty76]

I heard him with his "Howard Always Wins in the End" shit... I turned on a CD after that.

[MAVRIC305]

Howard Stern is a complete douche bag. I tried to like him, and I tried to be a supporter through the FCC scandal. But, he is just an egotistical moron who will never admit to any other talk radio show being funny besides his own. Which is no longer funny by the way. I cannot listen to it any longer. I really never did, I always thought he was the tall ugly guy from the WWOR TV show with all the hot chicks. FUCK HIM, AND FUCK THE FANS WHO THINK LIKE HIM!

O & A always win in the end!

[BuffaloPaul]

I thought I would place this here for Mavric, it's the best bit of news I have heard in a long time, and thanks to the person that made the "Latest O&A news" thread... sticky again! :xyxthumbs




Thanks Mav for sharing this with us...

Subject:Re: Hey Op, Mav from Wackbag here...
Date:6/7/2004 10:18:23 PM Eastern Standard Time
From:opie@mail.opieandanthony.com
Reply To:MAVRIC305@aol.com
Sent from the Internet (Details)

Hi Billy! Rest assured we will be back. Unfortunately it's taking a lot longer than anticipated to get these negotiations done. You can understand that we're a bit leary about signing a contract that's not quite right. If I have to end up sitting out of radio another 2 years cause of some stupid clause in the contract I WILL KILL MYSELF! We're heading toward some unbelievable exciting times that may surprise a lot of people out there! Keep the faith and know that it won't be too much longer! Thanks for everything you fans have done to keep the show alive!
Peace,
OpieI didn't know where to post this, because the "Sticky" for latest O & A news is gone. I got this during the week, but was not sure if he wanted it posted publicly. He confirmed, and I am just throwing it out there for you guys. I also asked him about the Sirius rumor, and I got nothing. He did not even mention it in the reply. He only mentioned that he would like me to post this publicly for everyone to understand the situation.

O.K. Terrific,
Mav

[SpotcheckBilly]

:hi2:

[MAVRIC305]

Thanks BP, I appreciate it.

Also, it is my pleasure to share anything I can with the O & A army. Plus, this is what Op wanted.

Thanks Spot, for putting yourself out there and "Re-Sticking" this thread. :action-sm

[Jesus H. Christ]

And on the 8th day, I created Satellie Radio for our boys to broadcast on. Look for an announcement by weeks end.:piss2

[jpc165]

What the hell would Jesus be doing in Jersey??

::hammer:

[robification]

it's obvious.... he's looking at the locals in pity

[deicide]

If JC says it, it must be true.
Does JC work for AP?

[fatfrankie]

What the hell would Jesus be doing in Jersey??

::hammer:
LEARNING FROM HIS MISTAKES :piss2 :piss

[T.W.A. Tea]

What the hell would Jesus be doing in Jersey??

::hammer:
?????ski-ball????

[Hoagie]

What the hell would Jesus be doing in Jersey??

::hammer:
Trying to stop 2 angels from passing through a doorway of a church that would get them back into heaven and prove God wrong ending all existence.

[Netzy]

LEARNING FROM HIS MISTAKESFunny, but boo.

Go to the town (or is it a boro?) of Bradley Beach. You'll see paradise exists in Jersey.

[nikoloslvy]

bradley sux i went to scholl there.dont ask wich one it shut down.more boarding scholl,no girls no tv blahblah blah.
nno it dosent suck.i had a rotten time though.is that bowling alley stil open?i used to get ciggs from the cigg machine that never asked for id.

[T.W.A. Tea]

bradley sux i went to scholl there.dont ask wich one it shut down.more boarding scholl,no girls no tv blahblah blah.
nno it dosent suck.i had a rotten time though.is that bowling alley stil open?i used to get ciggs from the cigg machine that never asked for id.
yea that is the bowling ally that was under water now all the lanes are warped it's still there

[ffemt19]

Trying to stop 2 angels from passing through a doorway of a church that would get them back into heaven and prove God wrong ending all existence.
DOGMA reference! I love that movie!:icon_razz

[Joe Orthex]

?????ski-ball????but this was the first dogma refrance.

[nikoloslvy]

welll its tuesday morning and i still dont know wich system to steal.fuck.bitch bitch moan groan waaa.i want my mommy waaaa.

(underwater?the one across the street from quick check?-i think anyway)

[Sickthinker]

Ahhhh...This shits startin to get fun again!!!!!!!

[norton23]

I wish the'd give us some sort of word......I bet there both reading this board and laughing there asses off, those silly 'lil tussulble kids


This is getting exciting the day is near!

[Tooz]

Howard Stern is a complete douche bag. I tried to like him, and I tried to be a supporter through the FCC scandal. But, he is just an egotistical moron who will never admit to any other talk radio show being funny besides his own. Which is no longer funny by the way. I cannot listen to it any longer. I really never did, I always thought he was the tall ugly guy from the WWOR TV show with all the hot chicks. FUCK HIM, AND FUCK THE FANS WHO THINK LIKE HIM!

O & A always win in the end!
I agree Stern's show hasn't been funny in a very long time !! (Though Artie Langs story about how he did coke in his car at a traffic light in FULL pig make up while some women was watching was a good laugh, and that plus Artie's story on how he shit in his bed while sleeping and rolling around in it, then waking up covered in his own shit was funny) But Stern himself hasn't made me even chuckle in years. Even back in "the day" he really wasn't as funny as O&A. I could always count on having a good laugh each day with the Bbbbbboys. Now all I can do is listen to old O&A bits on the CDs I bought on ebay. Just heard the bit on how Rick LOVES the chocolate cock.............And yes, O&A ALWAY WIN IN THE END !!!! :biggrinfl

[Rob]

artie is the only reason i listen to hoo hoo...

[MrSquidlow]

Hoo Hoo's show just makes me angry..

It's nothing, but a soapbox for his ego..
And I don't like it.."orang:

[CrunchyJunk]

artie is the only reason i listen to hoo hoo...
ditto

(Look what I did to you MG!)

[Rob]

ditto

(Look what I did to you MG!)
nice... :)

[Stinkysteve]

I agree Stern's show hasn't been funny in a very long time !! (Though Artie Langs story about how he did coke in his car at a traffic light in FULL pig make up while some women was watching was a good laugh, and that plus Artie's story on how he shit in his bed while sleeping and rolling around in it, then waking up covered in his own shit was funny) But Stern himself hasn't made me even chuckle in years. Even back in "the day" he really wasn't as funny as O&A. I could always count on having a good laugh each day with the Bbbbbboys. Now all I can do is listen to old O&A bits on the CDs I bought on ebay. Just heard the bit on how Rick LOVES the chocolate cock.............And yes, O&A ALWAY WIN IN THE END !!!! :biggrinfl

Welcome to the board Tooz!
Don't buy stuff on e-Bay! Just click on my sig pic and download them!

[Joe Orthex]

Now all I can do is listen to old O&A bits on the CDs I bought on ebay. Just heard the bit on how Rick LOVES the chocolate cock.............And yes, O&A ALWAY WIN IN THE END !!!! :biggrinfli will bet anyone anything they want that everything he has on that CD can be found FOR FREE, on the "virus spreader" (damn, times like this i wish i hade tagged stuff early on)


Welcome to the board Tooz!
Don't buy stuff on e-Bay! Just click on my sig pic and download them!<blazing saddles black sherrif> Do what he say! Do what he Sayyay! </blazing saddles black sherrif>

[BuffaloPaul]

I agree Stern's show hasn't been funny in a very long time !! (Though Artie Langs story about how he did coke in his car at a traffic light in FULL pig make up while some women was watching was a good laugh, and that plus Artie's story on how he shit in his bed while sleeping and rolling around in it, then waking up covered in his own shit was funny) But Stern himself hasn't made me even chuckle in years. Even back in "the day" he really wasn't as funny as O&A. I could always count on having a good laugh each day with the Bbbbbboys. Now all I can do is listen to old O&A bits on the CDs I bought on ebay. Just heard the bit on how Rick LOVES the chocolate cock.............And yes, O&A ALWAY WIN IN THE END !!!! :biggrinfl
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[basatak]

i will bet anyone anything they want that everything he has on that CD can be found FOR FREE, on the "virus spreader" (damn, times like this i wish i hade tagged stuff early on)


<blazing saddles black sherrif> Do what he say! Do what he Sayyay! </blazing saddles black sherrif>Surpisingly enough; I was looking at the content offered on Ebay; and one tool was selling a package with some Spaz bits from late Aug/early Sept that I had never hear of! If anybody bought the CDs with the Spaz bits; could you post a list of what you have?

[Stinkysteve]

Surpisingly enough; I was looking at the content offered on Ebay; and one tool was selling a package with some Spaz bits from late Aug/early Sept that I had never hear of! If anybody bought the CDs with the Spaz bits; could you post a list of what you have?

I wouldn't be suprised if those weren't being sold by the little piece of shit himself!
At least we KNOW he will never be on the show again.

[Hoagie]

I wouldn't be suprised if those weren't being sold by the little piece of shit himself!
At least we KNOW he will never be on the show again.
Speaking of duesche, if you're really bored you can head on over to his message board and vote in the poll I started. Then partake in the spamming of the site I also started.

[Stinkysteve]

Speaking of duesche, if you're really bored you can head on over to his message board and vote in the poll I started. Then partake in the spamming of the site I also started.

I would not waste my time on that little piece of shit! Besides, you don't want him to feel important.

[100 Grand]

on how Rick LOVES the chocolate cock.............

Welcome to the board...Tooz!

The big question is....Does Ken love the cock??

[Cha94]

I can't believe how many tools are selling CD's over at Ebay of the O&A show. There are so many generous people out here on the message boards to convert show clips over for free and in their spare time and never ask for a single penny, yet these douches are trying to make a quick buck. Id like to see them get hit by a mack truck. :drunk:

[Rob]

yeah... i've always thought that was f'd up...

[jpc165]

Aren't those pricks selling the CD's on ebay violating some copyright laws, since they are making a profit off O&A's work? Or is it just as wrong as us sharing on the virus spreader??

[Netzy]

I can't believe how many tools are selling CD's over at Ebay of the O&A show. There are so many generous people out here on the message boards to convert show clips over for free and in their spare time and never ask for a single penny, yet these douches are trying to make a quick buck. Id like to see them get hit by a mack truck. :drunk:
Maybe us leechers (like me) should purchase a gift for those who were so generous with their time? I'd be willing to throw in some bucks. I know they don't expect anything, but that's all the more reason to give them some token of our appreciation.

[Rob]

yeah... maybe help pay some of the expenses... i know i would...

[poopiebottoms]

Aren't those pricks selling the CD's on ebay violating some copyright laws, since they are making a profit off O&A's work? Or is it just as wrong as us sharing on the virus spreader??
I know that there is an email add'y to report "bootleg" music CD's being sold on ebay.
Some bands, like the Grateful Dead, allow free trading over the internet of their music, but as soon as someone is profitting from it they consider it a crime.

By this logic, I'd assumefans freely trading bits with each other, and nobody profitting (Virus Spreader,...) is fine, but some " :icon_mad:TOOL:icon_evil " selling homemade CD's is not. The ultimate decision belongs with the owner of the material, which would probably be the bbbboys, unless WNEW had some claim to it.

I'm no lawyer, but I do play one on TV...

[MrSquidlow]

Aren't those pricks selling the CD's on ebay violating some copyright laws, since they are making a profit off O&A's work? Or is it just as wrong as us sharing on the virus spreader??
Maybe it's the bbboys selling them...hhmm

[Joe Orthex]

even though i don't like the idea of selling the stuff on e-bay it dose do some good. those on dial up who may not know of anyplace to get those things may find e-bay the only way to hear O&A. what bothers me is 1 - the prices on some of them, come on, O&A were all about sharing. if your gonna sell make it a reasonable price. after all chances are the only work they put into those things was downloading and burning. you can do that in your sleep. and then there is the second thing, how much work did they realy put into it all. regardless of that i myself still burn cds and still pass them out, and on those cds are links to other places where audio and news can be found. my going price $0.00, (sorry, no mquire rookie card with that order).

as far as reporting them i say forget about it. if the lawyers decide that those should not be sold they may look into the matter more and maybe stop any distribution of the show in any form. forget ebay and stick with your regular sources. and if you know a fan let him know about those sources. works for me.