petition filed to get FCC to regulate satellite radio

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Should All Radio Be Created Equal?

November 11, 2004

Saul Levine's Mt. Wilson FM Broadcasters has petitioned the FCC to include an indecency provision in the rules that govern satellite radio. Levine's argument is that satellite radio is not heard exclusively by subscribers and that it should be subject to the same rules as terrestrial radio.

"The key is to have a level playing field," Levine told FMQB. "The FCC has the authority to regulate satellite radio and in fact already does regulate it in two respects: The EEO requirements that apply to radio stations also apply to satellite radio, and the rules on political broadcasts also apply to both. The FCC said back in 1997 when it authorized satellite radio that they would revisit, at a later time, additional regulations."

Levine noted that he is not trying to "curb Howard Stern or curb anybody, we're just saying that whatever rules that apply [to us] should apply to them too."

He continued, "Their defense is that they're 100% subscription, and therefore only people who want to hear obscene language will hear it. But they're not 100% subscription. They make it available to car rentals without any charge and there are no controls on it - families rent cars and they can pick it up. It's a misconception that satellite radio is subscription radio. It's not true - the FCC said they can sell advertising or have subscriptions - they can do either. So it's not subscription only. It's not 100% commercial free. It is going to be available to minors. So the bottom line is, we're not trying to impose any censorship on satellite radio that there isn't already on terrestrial radio."

Levine's petition was filed on November 5 and it asks that the FCC open a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking that would mandate that no satcaster "shall transmit any material which is obscene" and that indecent material should be prohibited between 6 a.m. and 10 p.m., just as it is with terrestrial radio. It could take three months to a year before the FCC will rule or act on the petition, Levine said.

[kloraferm]

It's fucking starting already.

[trd270]

What a fucker, that guy needs an ass kickin.

[Stinkysteve]

He's just pissed because everyone is jumping to satellite!

He should be bitch slapped with his wifes' cock.

[ASSMAN]

that really pissed me off, i wanna kill that motherfucker

[okterrificsk2]

why cant people just live thier lives, watch/listen/read what they want and let others do the same. People like this are a mystery to me.

[roche]

He continued, "Their defense is that they're 100% subscription, and therefore only people who want to hear obscene language will hear it. But they're not 100% subscription. They make it available to car rentals without any charge and there are no controls on it - families rent cars and they can pick it up. It's a misconception that satellite radio is subscription radio.
What a idiot. Same thing goes for cable and hotel rooms.

This fuck needs a flogging.

[ASSMAN]

its a weak argument, but we know how the FCC works, they cave very easily. I emailed them and told them not to regulate it.

[JohnnyGriswold]

I advise everyone to go to www.fcc.gov and email anyone with an email address about this silly petition. We can no longer be the silent majority.

[roche]

I advise everyone to go to www.fcc.gov (http://www.fcc.gov) and email anyone with an email address about this silly petition. We can no longer be the silent majority.
I would say write a real letter. They seem to respect those a little bit more.

[Kegman]

"Levine's argument is that satellite radio is not heard exclusively by subscribers and that it should be subject to the same rules as terrestrial radio"



and we're paying for it!! Aren't we silly geese

[cicp^p]

A few things to keep in mind:

#1 - This is not the first time someone has tried this shit and it won't be the last.

#2 - This assholes arguement is flimsy at best. In fact it's the lamest I've seen yet. Most rental companies that rent XM/Sirius equipped vehicles charge the customer extra for activation, and those that don't the rental company still has to pay for their subscriptions. Hence whether it is the company or the customer flipping the bill, it is still subscriber based. At most this particular petition would force all rental companies to charge customers extra for XM/Sirius service.

#3 - Retarded petitions like this are the very reason we have to pay $2 extra a month for O&A. Even if in the future the FCC found a way to regulate XM/Sirius content they still won't be able to touch premium tiers (the old HBO arguement).

#4 - Both XM and Sirius have anticipated this bullshit from the begining and each have a fleet of lawyers ready to fight to the death.

Relax and continue to enjoy the best radio service on the planet.

[generoso]

Will not go anywere in congress or the senate. Even in the remote chance it did would violate 1st admen. rights.

[Palerider4146]

Understand, there are so many differences between broadcast and sat radio. People do have to subscribe, yeah maybe the people who get it in their cars have it free for a year, but they still have to activate it, plus they have the ability to lock out channels that they dont want their precious little children to hear. It will be a very hard fight on their hands.

[TurboDan]

Will not go anywere in congress or the senate. Even in the remote chance it did would violate 1st admen. rights.
Actually, with that I'd disagree. It won't go anywhere with the FCC, but if it were ever go to some type of congressional vote, it gives hundreds of politicians the right to say that they "voted to protect children" in campaign commercials. :icon_roll

Remember that 99-1 vote on "indecency" this Spring?

[Ballbuster1]

Actually, with that I'd disagree. It won't go anywhere with the FCC, but if it were ever go to some type of congressional vote, it gives hundreds of politicians the right to say that they "voted to protect children" in campaign commercials. :icon_roll

Remember that 99-1 vote on "indecency" this Spring?Yeah, they'll vote dog shit as a food if it will get them re-elected.
It's a scary thought if this gets to congress.

[T Brokenjaw]

Its ok to show Saving Private Ryan (unedited) on ABC right now with all the fucks and shits left in it and massive amounts of violence. Just don't talk about sex on the radio.

[MonstrRainmakr]

See, at first i was really into trying to get O&A taken off a premium channel and making it available to everyone, ya know, spread the virus and all. But now with this, i'm glad they've had the fore sight to see this coming and make their channel premium.

What's great about all this is if it DOES go anywhere between now and Jan. '06 Stern might have to go back on his word and charge extra for his channels. HA. That'd be great.

[Dryblood]

FCC is going after satalite because I joined Sirius ....hoo hoo hoo

[Ballbuster1]

If all it takes is 2 bucks a month to insulate them from all the fcc
bull/s , then I'm happy to pay it.

[Got One?]

fuck the fcc.

let me live my life the way i want to hear and see it.

[Hammersmith]

See, at first i was really into trying to get O&A taken off a premium channel and making it available to everyone, ya know, spread the virus and all. But now with this, i'm glad they've had the fore sight to see this coming and make their channel premium.

What's great about all this is if it DOES go anywhere between now and Jan. '06 Stern might have to go back on his word and charge extra for his channels. HA. That'd be great.

I totally agree and I wonder if XM saw this coming? If that's the case and the boys get to keep doing the show the way they are now I'll gladly hand over the $1.99, but can I still get a picture of lil Jimmy in the outfit of my choice?

[Jholmes525]

I totally agree and I wonder if XM saw this coming? If that's the case and the boys get to keep doing the show the way they are now I'll gladly hand over the $1.99, but can I still get a picture of lil Jimmy in the outfit of my choice?

same here!
Welcome to the board

[Deebomber]

Smart move to put O&A on a premium channel. :clap: One thing that idiot forget to mention is that even though rental cars do have satellite radios they don't carry premium channels. And there is no cursing on the regular channels. And in my opinion Sirius has a problem with Hoo-hoo if the fcc decides to do something. There is no way they cannot charge for hoo-hoo now.

[trd270]

While O&A being protected is great, the reason I bought XM in the first place was so I didn't have to listen to EDITED music. I enjoy hearing FUCK SHIT CUNT ASSHOLE.....etc.

If one of these little cock bites gets the fcc on fucking XM, i'm buying a fucking sniper rifle.

[Lil'GlubGlub]

Smart move to put O&A on a premium channel. :clap: One thing that idiot forget to mention is that even though rental cars do have satellite radios they don't carry premium channels. And there is no cursing on the regular channels. And in my opinion Sirius has a problem with Hoo-hoo if the fcc decides to do something. There is no way they cannot charge for hoo-hoo now.

actually there is cursing on the regular channels. they have a little xl next to the channel name on the channel guide.

[piefoot]

Levine noted that he is not trying to "curb Howard Stern or curb anybody, we're just saying that whatever rules that apply [to us] should apply to them too."

Then whats the point of having satilite and paying for it? If it is all the same less people will subscribe and there will be more commercials, just making it more commercial radio. This won't happen but I do think there will be some restrictions later, and O+A will end up crossing that line probably. Then you will have to buy bootlegged tapes of the show which will be broadcast from some island offshore:icon_mad:

[Pungent]

I love this line:

"They make it available to car rentals without any charge and there are no controls on it..."

Is THAT right? Wow, I've never gotten into a rental car that didn't have controls on the radio! Oh, wait a sec..... There was that one Pontiac I rented from Avis one time.... On the ignition switch, it said "OFF - ACC - ON (WITH RADIO AT TOP VOLUME AND NO WAY TO CONTROL IT) - START".

I see these old fucks are doing a really good job at "PROTECTING THE KIDS!!!!!" I went out to my car the other day, and asked the 7-year-old kid to move his skateboard so I could pull out of my driveway, and I believe his exact words were: "FUCK YOU!!! I DON'T HAVE TO DO SHIT!!!"

Good job. (I ran over his skateboard, by the way.)

"I HATE your kids!!" -Ant

[armymad]

some dumdass had to do it

[MilitantRabbit]

Levine noted that he is not trying to "curb Howard Stern or curb anybody, we're just saying that whatever rules that apply [to us] should apply to them too."
BULLSHIT!

[EdC]

As I said in another thread on this, I think this is fantasic. I really HOPE the FCC is stupid enough to try this because as soon as they do it has the same implications of them stepping in to take over satellite TV which includes a lot of shows that people aren't going to be willing to give up. Look at the Sopranos, Deadwood, Real Sex and others that liberally throw around language and adult situations all the time and people love it ... and HBO is availabe in a lot of hotels for free.

Every other word in Deadwood is cunt or fuck and at this point the show wouldn't work any other way.

[jackdaniels1940]

I turned my car on yesterday and there was this woman getting violated with a drill-do and there was nothing I could do!!!!

Oh wait a minute.... I pay for the wonderful shit!!!

DIE ASSHOLES!!! WHOOOP!! :icon_mrgr

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[Assuck]

What A Faggot

[KTMCDO]

He continued, "Their defense is that they're 100% subscription, and therefore only people who want to hear obscene language will hear it. But they're not 100% subscription. They make it available to car rentals without any charge and there are no controls on it - families rent cars and they can pick it up. It's a misconception that satellite radio is subscription radio. It's not true - the FCC said they can sell advertising or have subscriptions - they can do either. So it's not subscription only. It's not 100% commercial free. It is going to be available to minors. So the bottom line is, we're not trying to impose any censorship on satellite radio that there isn't already on terrestrial radio."

AVIS (http://www.avis.com/AvisWeb/JSP/US/en/deals/us_xm_0603.jsp) i doubt avis would be stupid enough to provide the o&a show in the free xm package since to get the program you would have to pay extra for it
this guy is just a blowhard
so mt wilson radio guy heres your sign
heres your sign=Bill Engvall

[ColumbusJoe]

Here is the most important part of this whole thing. Regular radio companies are scared, scared shitless! They see they are losing market share on a daily basis. I don't know about anyone else but I have not listened to regular radio since the day I got my XM and I'm not missing it at all. Mr. Levine's concern is "a level playing field"! That is what it is all about. Owners of regular radio have tried from the very beginning to keep satilite radio from coming to be. Back when the FCC was looking where in the frequency band to put the sat signals the major radio figures stepped in and tried to get the amount available made so small that it would be difficult to broadcast!! They are just jealous and scared and are finding themselves going the way of AM! So long fuckers! "I hope they all fall in a puddle of AIDS and DIE!!"-Lil' Jimmy

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