Can we petition XM to make O&A free?

[Biggie]

I think the show is being severely hindered by being stuck on a premium channel (well, that coupled with a complete lack of advertising). People are bitching about the show lacking feminine input, and to a degree I agree with them. The problem lies in that the majority of potential female listeners either A.) don't want to pay extra for the premium channel, or B.) Simply don't know O&A are even on XM.

O&A doesn't necessarily appeal to a lot of the ladies or other potential listeners...they need to listen to them for a while after stumbling upon their show, and let the virus spread, like it happened for a lot of us.

The show cannot grow hidden on the premium channel - what will it take for XM to correct this, or at the very least, ADVERTISE THEM! Unless you frequent the XM website and catch a glimpse of the tiny O&A banner on there, there is almost nothing mentioning that O&A is on XM.

I suppose I'm just aggravated, because I know the show can be exponentially better than it is now (and I love it now, but you get the idea).

[APortablePhone]

I think the show is being severely hindered by being stuck on a premium channel (well, that coupled with a complete lack of advertising)..

You are correct and the boys agree with you. Since they are already fighting with XM, this isn't something that XM doesn't already know that people and the show want. A more constructive thing to do would be telling all your friends, co-workers, neighbors, sexual assualt victims, etc. about the pogram.

[shroomman_100]

www.petitiononline.com

Make one and I'll sign it

[Tenbatsuzen]

www.petitiononline.com

Make one and I'll sign it


Hmmm. A grassroots effort to try and appeal to a large corporate entity to change something about a Hot Talk show in New York.

Something sounds vaguely familiar here.

[HockeyHelmet]

Sorry to say but I am not sure there target demagraphic is women, I could be wrong? Here is an idea, word of mouth can spread fast and be more productive then advertisment some times.....Instead of coming on here to complain that they are on the premium channel or they need to be marketed better convince a friend to get xm just 1 and go from there. Everyone wants everyone else to market them. XM will market the boys when they are ready, if they ever will, remains to be seen. I have gotten 4 of my close friends to get XM and subscribe to the boys and bought a unit and service for my brothers, what have you been doing?


:wowsmilie

[Hoagie]

While you're at it, I reall want one of those new sony 60 inch LCD TVs. Can we petition them to give them out for free too?

[krunk]

I don't think taking them off the premium channel is the issue....if you can afford the $9.99/month for XM what's another $2? (it's only .07 a day...it's not like it's 50K) ....it's still cheaper than the doggie company and ya just know they'll raise their price someitme near Jan 2006....

I think the issue is the advertising of the show....People just need to know they're on XM......the boys want off the premium channel so more people hear them and have a bigger audience.....they won't care if they're on the premium channel if they have a huge audience

Sure the audience will always be bigger if the show is included in the $9.99/month but there are XM owners who don't know they're on XM. There are 3.5 million subscribers to XM...the random XM listener can't stumble on the show. That's the arguement for taking them off the premium channel. So the XM subscriber who doesn't know they're on can find them and become a listener and the Norton and Friends Pogram gets a bigger audience.

So it seems to me they need to push the show more and get people to knwo that its on.

[HockeyHelmet]

While you're at it, I reall want one of those new sony 60 inch LCD TVs. Can we petition them to give them out for free too?

No, Sony should market it better so that you are almost brainwashed to buy it!

[MilitantRabbit]

let's see (read: Hear or read on the internet) what happens during the conference call tomorrow

[JamesRI]

Being on a premium channel for a measly 2 bucks is not really the problem- it can be kind of a safeguard against any possible future regulation. If you want to expose the show to XM- cross advertise it ( like MLB- I heard it might be on XM, or the free-play).

XM would be smart to throw a simple billboard up on 1 major highway in each city
O & A were syndicated to. There are MILLIONS of old listeners who have no idea they are back. The only reason I know is because I was checking out wackbag, Norton emails, and the opieandanthony siite.

If anything, we should try to pressure XM to advertise them.
James

[GAMe FSU]

christ... se7en cents a day.

norton alone is worth a good 12 cents a day

[jlfrench]

It's not about the money at all.... we all know it's 2 bucks, or .002 cents an hour or however you want to put it. More listeners make the show we're all obsessed with a better experience. I'm worried that since most of the hype, and publicity about the boys coming over to xm has died down, and with it the flood of new subscribers. I'm sure also that while they may not outright admit it, being heard by less than 100,000 after broadcasting to millions not too long ago has got to weigh on them. I'd really like to see any estimates on how many new listeners the freeplay brought in, or see them maybe put a freeplay on again for a longer period of time.

The argument about censorship of a non premium channel is not a valid one... the FCC has repeatedly turned down any requests to regulate sattelite radio, and the comedy channel has material just as raw as the show on every day.

[Ballbuster1]

The argument about censorship of a non premium channel is not a valid one... the FCC has repeatedly turned down any requests to regulate sattelite radio, and the comedy channel has material just as raw as the show on every day. I agree. There is no real need for the premium price.

[Hal]

Being on a premium channel for a measly 2 bucks is not really the problem-

Yes, it is.

If you have never heard of Opie and Anthony, there's a good chance you aren't going to go out of your way to be able to listen to them. Simple as that.

This isn't about the dedicated current listeners....it's about expanding the fan base to other people.

[stubadub]

Hmmm. A grassroots effort to try and appeal to a large corporate entity to change something about a Hot Talk show in New York.

Something sounds vaguely familiar here.



DAMN DAMN DAMN....you beat me to it........ :arrrh:

[Bach]

If you have never hear of Opie and Anthony, there's a good chance you aren't going to go out of your way to be able to listen to them. Simple as that.

This isn't about the dedicated current listeners....it's about expanding the fan base to other people.

I couldn't have said it better. :clap:

[KillerChris]

Maybe we should add Noah as a Featured Host to give us a women's point of view.

[Chicane]

My thoughts on it are that if it moves from a premium channel then we would almost certainly lose the minimal commercial breaks we get now.

I know there have been complaints about the breaks they do currently, but all you have to do is listen to any other talk show on XM to see how good we have it.

I believe that if XM does take the show from the premium tier, it will be forced to run with scheduled "clocked" breaks like conventional shows and it will have traditional advertising.

Personally, the $2 bucks is a non-issue, but I do hate having to pay it for every receiver. I currently have a SkyFi in my kitchen, a SkyFi2 in my bedroom and a MyFi for everywhere else so O&A costs me $6 bucks a month.

[lsmft]

Yeah if they made the show free then I could use the xtra $2 to donate to a good cherity like save the retarded bomber heres the url www.richvos.com

[JamesRI]

Yes, it is.

If you have never heard of Opie and Anthony, there's a good chance you aren't going to go out of your way to be able to listen to them. Simple as that.

This isn't about the dedicated current listeners....it's about expanding the fan base to other people.

Last I checked, Opie and Anthony had 10 million listeners. Hal, you schmuck(in a nice way), I do not give a shit about those who have never heard op and ack. There are millions of people who used to love them, they have no idea they are back. Hal, get a fucking clue, buddy!!

[davemanic]

I fell like some of the others,
The show is hidden behind the premium channel,
There's alot of folks out there that don't know about the boys,
and they can not be hidden behind premium if hoo,hoo
is airing on the non premium doggie station at the same time.

Then again, XM might not want a "shock" show airing
to just anyone, kids might run into some nasty, nasty, while scrolling,
oh well, who knows.
I guess there's a lot of issues to look at.

[Hal]

Last I checked, Opie and Anthony had 10 million listeners. Hal, you schmuck(in a nice way), I do not give a shit about those who have never heard op and ack. There are millions of people who used to love them, they have no idea they are back. Hal, get a fucking clue, buddy!!

You are the one who needs a clue to be gotten.

Obviously, you don't really understand what makes the show great...more listeners is more gooder. Simple as that.

[DJNewStyle]

When was the last time a petition worked?

[TaZMaNiaK]

Then again, XM might not want a "shock" show airing
to just anyone, kids might run into some nasty, nasty, while scrolling,


So what could they hear on OnA that they wouldn't hear on XM Comedy? What about the foul schwoogie blather that spews from the 60's? If the XM is in a place where kids would be in a position to listen unsupervised, you should have xL channels blocked. Plain and simple. If you choose not to, don't bitch when your kid asks you what a balloon knot is. It's your own fault.

[Mike H]

They should make O&A free and just make it so you have to call up to have the channel unlocked. This solves all problems. If it costs nothing, people unfamiliar to the show will check it out and people with kids who don't want it for whatever reason will not have access to it.

[Dutch Clutch]

FUCK THE KIDS!

I'm tired of living in a child proof world. When I was a kid I was told to wait until I was older to enjoy adult stuff....then when you're an adult today, you can't have anything because of the fukkin kids....

The whole goddamn country went insane over a nipple at the super bowl when it looked no hotter than a National Geographic special...(ding-ding-ding)

So throw the O&A show on the reg channel no premium, and let the kids learn what a balloon knot is...I learned what that was from listening to them on FM anyway!

If you've noticed, the sex stuff went to near zero in the last 2 months, so I think they are being groomed for being taken off the premium channel. That's cool, because I'd rather them be funny and cruel...the sex stuff always goes nowhere anyway....except for the show we never mention again.

[...AllDayLong]

When was the last time a petition worked?

Well, I signed a Save Family Guy online petition back in 01', 4 years later they're back. Does that count?

People who make the arguement that it's only 2 bux are missing the point. It could be a free add-on channel and it would STILL be a bad idea. As long as listeners have to do ANYTHING other than turn their XM unit on to hear the boys, they are passing on a fan base.

[JhaxShucksChock]

Well, I signed a Save Family Guy online petition back in 01', 4 years later they're back. Does that count?

Family Guy is back because the DVD's sold like crazy and the repeats on the Cartoon Network got huge ratings. It's about money, has nothing to do with how many people signed anything.

[HockeyHelmet]

I signed that patition...also purchased myself the dvds......I think the focus should be on getting new xm subscribers...... not just try to get people who already have xm to tune into the boys.

[...AllDayLong]

Family Guy is back because the DVD's sold like crazy and the repeats on the Cartoon Network got huge ratings. It's about money, has nothing to do with how many people signed anything.

*sarcasm*

[fandango86]

They should make O&A free and just make it so you have to call up to have the channel unlocked. This solves all problems. If it costs nothing, people unfamiliar to the show will check it out and people with kids who don't want it for whatever reason will not have access to it.

You're getting warmer... They should make it free and designate it with the XL label, like they did when it was on freeplay. XM offers a feature that blocks all the XL channels. Many people have correctly brought up the point that O&A are no worse than any of the other XL channels. Here's the problem, though - How in the heck does a company that is losing money justify turning away the revenue brought in by the $2 a month? The only way they could make up the money is to sell a ton of advertising(obviously not gonna happen) or jack up the rate across the board. While that increase would only have to be a few cents, that would push them over the magic $10 barrier, something they're hesitant to do. Let's face it - the main reason they have such an edge over Sirius is PRICE.

[Mike H]

Well, if they made the pogram free, they could justify the institution of 3 mins of commercials every 20 minutes. And, they can justify it to the advertisers by claiming that, being open to all XM subscribers, it will quickly become their most popular channel.