XM Liquid Metal has been removed

[mrhyde]

XM LIQUID METAL - XM 42
In order to make room for new programming, XM Liquid Metal has been removed from the XM Satellite Radio lineup. Fans can still get their metal fix on Squizz - XM 48 — where XMLM's Ward Cleaver will host a new weekday show featuring hard, fast, heavy metal from Noon until 3PM ET.

[demonseed]

That sux..What bout the people that dont want to listen to the Liquid Metal type tunes in the mid-afternoon, and our used to whats on Squizz.. And what about the people that listen to LIquid Metal all day long.. There are people who get XM for certain things, like the fact that they can listen to Liquid Metal all day. That does really suck for those people.

[mrhyde]

after O&A I listen to Liquid Metal and Fungus 53 the rset of the day

now what, ToolGuy???

f this

[MilitantRabbit]

there's a big gap between 102 (Ngoma, the african music channel) and 110 (one of the news channels) that can be filled, and i want to see it filled at 103 with J-Pop (i know, i'm a fagget).

Sucks they took it off. i was wondering what the fuck was going on when i saw:
Home Plate
XM 175
on my XM display, I switch to it, and lo and behold, 16 new channels for Baseball. YAY! Go Brewers! Go SAWKS! GO WAHOOS!

[Taso]

Liquidmetal is an awesome channel, why the fuck would they pull it

[demonseed]

what i dont get, is that wasnt liquid metal on channel 42?

[LilJimmyRbinson]

There are definately spots in the channels to add without taking away. That's really stupid for them to do something like this. What about 33-40 which are blank? Not that I listened to XM42 that often...I really like what Squizz plays and don't want to merege the two.

[demonseed]

If LM was on 42, then why take it away. MLB is in the high 100's.

[mrhyde]

the post i started this with was off the XM site - a blurb at the bottom of program notes for the day...like no real explanation - does any one know the tech info of XM? Are there a limited amount of channles that they can broadcast? And baseball - f'n spring training even, dosent even start for weeks!

[Ovaherenow]

Liquid Metal is streaming as of right now 2/15 @ 9:59 AM...is that first post on this thread an email from XM??

[demonseed]

If you put it on on your regualr unit, if you have on.. There is nothing except for a voice saying to tune into Squizz between noon and 3 for liquid metal music.

[NiceHeadDeek]

Liquidmetal is an awesome channel, why the fuck would they pull it
To make room for oh-so-awesome baseball.....

[Rev]

This BLOWS!
XMLM was one of the only other channels I listened to. :icon_evil

[MilitantRabbit]

according to a repeating message:
"XM Liquid Metal has solidified...has solidified...solidified..."
you get the point. it's now a crystalline compound, they say.

and they say "anger and glory are now on the web. Yay." which means only XM Online listeners can hear XMLM.

gotta hand it to XM, it runs itself like the whole radio industry.

and to answer all of your questions, it was probably a bandwidth issue. the bandwidth needed for the 16 MLB channels (14 play-by-play, 1 spanish play-by-play, and MLB Home Plate) at 24 kbps must have equaled enough to warrant the removal of a channel. any other channels taken off?

[fewtoomany]

This sucks I already emailed XM to complain. Where the hell am I gonna get my fix of Compton Time no KottenMouthKings or HED PE.

[Rev]

This sucks I already emailed XM to complain. Where the hell am I gonna get my fix of Compton Time no KottenMouthKings or HED PE.Where should I email my complaint to? I'm pissed.

[mrhyde]

Orginal XM Message:
http://www.xmradio.com/lineup/index.jsp

To Complain:
E-lo or;
http://www.xmradio.com/contact_us/contact_us.jsp

want to go to another silly forum and complain:
http://www.xmfan.com

[Papagolash]

This fucking sucks, this really fucking sucks. Besides OnA I'd listen to Liquid Metal all the time.

[BobSaget666]

That's bullshit. Liquid Metal was one of the few channels I listened to besides 202.

[MilitantRabbit]

i listen to The System. Not a faggot, i'm non-sexual.

[rmathus]

There are definately spots in the channels to add without taking away. That's really stupid for them to do something like this. What about 33-40 which are blank? Not that I listened to XM42 that often...I really like what Squizz plays and don't want to merege the two.


Just because channels are blank doesn't mean XM has the bandwidth to just dump channels here and there at their leisure. Adding another satellite won't make a difference either because it will not increase bandwidth - that is solely provided by the FCC and getting more isn't an option at this time and won't be for a while.

If you want to complain, PLEASE do so in a respectful manner and be polite. E-mail Lee Abrams @ lee.abrams@xmradio.com

[SteveSteele]

I either want Liquid Metal back, or a free subscription to their online service. I love that station, and love that music. How about those that like it, send a real e-mail and lodge a legit complaint. How about we do something to save a channel.

[al885]

FUCKIN ASSHOLES. If it werent for O&A i would flush my XM, buy a sirius and fuck my mother. wheres my metal you fuckin cocksuckers?\



nooo dont take off the mexican channel which have 2 listeners because minorities cant afford XM or the golfer channels. FUCK YOU XM.

[TurboDan]

Blah. Yeah, we still have a bunch of Spanish stations and the "Black Power" channel. I'm not a metal fan, but this stinks for everyone that is. I'm sure XMLM had way more listeners than any of those channels.

Some channels are on XM by contract agreement, though, and can't be taken off. I believe one or two of the Spanish stations fall under that category.

[Rev]

I sent in my emails. This blows goat.

[Mike H]

Latin music has a huge market.

They would not have taken this channel off the air if it had a huge amount of listeners. That's just the way business is done...

[Rev]

Latin music has a huge market.

They would not have taken this channel off the air if it had a huge amount of listeners. That's just the way business is done...
That doesnt apply here.
They have no way of judging audience numbers.

And, in ANY variation of radio, you at least get a warning. XMLM got yanked, and the announcement came afterwards.

[NiceHeadDeek]

wheres my metal you fuckin cocksuckers?

www.sirius.com/HardAttack

heh.

What a fucking programming blunder. What's next, are they gonna take away the classic rock channel too? Why are there 5 alternative channels? Who the FUCK listens to "MTV Radio" or any of those channels? Why are there two top-40 stations? VH1 Radio? I could go on and on all day...... but no, they choose to remove a channel with a huge audience.

[NiceHeadDeek]

They would not have taken this channel off the air if it had a huge amount of listeners. That's just the way business is done...

They can't gauge what your radio is tuned to.... so it's done by paper surveys.

[fewtoomany]

There surveys suck!

[FreznoSmooth]

Guys this really fucking blows. We have to make our voices heard, there are way too many of us to ignore, heres a C&P from our Ziggy at his board, hope he doesnt mind:
If you want to do something about this, go ahead and send your emails and post here - some one will probably read it. That will have a one-time effect on the situation. If you want to make a lasting impression that will get reported to the higher-ups in the programming department on a weekly/monthly basis. Make it a point to listen to XMLM ONLINE for as long as you can EVERY DAY (if you have the service).

XM Radio online is the only way that XM can trully measure how many people listen to a given music channel accurately. No matter how hard you try, XMLM will not magically appear back on the sats in a few days, weeks, or months, but the potential is there to have it come back during a future reshuffling.

Voice your opinion daily where in matters listen ONLINE if you can!

[rmathus]

They can't gauge what your radio is tuned to.... so it's done by paper surveys.

They are actually done electronically - they send you an e-mail and you are asked to fill out forms on a website. For those wondering how to get a survey, it's random and XM has to have your e-mail address from the XM Signal newsletter as well as your consent.

[MilitantRabbit]

on the subject of sirius' channels, if you notice in their pop section, they have a channel for christian hits called Spirit. don't we have one of those too?

[Chlorofirm]

I am so pissed off by this. I would check out 42 every now and then, but I'm more pissed that now I don't have Squizz from noon to 3 every day. I sent a letter to XM.

If they didn't have opie and anthony, I'd cancel this shit service. And this is from someone who bought a roady 2, and then a myfi, and have gotten at least 6-7 other people to sign up who also listen to O&A.

Fuck you, XM.

[NiceHeadDeek]

They are actually done electronically - they send you an e-mail and you are asked to fill out forms on a website. For those wondering how to get a survey, it's random and XM has to have your e-mail address from the XM Signal newsletter as well as your consent.
Yeah, indirectly that's what I meant by 'paper'... the point is they can't monitor your radio.

[GregFarz78]

Sirius wins in music programming, this sucks XM kills the good channels and leaves up the shitty ones...who actually listens to channel 52 unsigned why cant they kill that channel instead? or maybe one of the 5 country stations do we really need 5 country music stations?

[rmathus]

Yeah, indirectly that's what I meant by 'paper'... the point is they can't monitor your radio.

I assumed that's what you meant, I just didn't want anyone to be confused :)

While XM can't monitor your radio (you're right), they can monitor the XM Online streams for those that have it. That probably provides some insight as to what channels are listened to most but it's not a very accurate sample of the 3+ million subscribers because not everyone subs. to XM Online.

[al885]

My hate mail has been sent...


BTW i tuned in squizz at noon to hear metal and i heard some fucking beck...

[superXMfreak]

That doesnt apply here.
They have no way of judging audience numbers.

And, in ANY variation of radio, you at least get a warning. XMLM got yanked, and the announcement came afterwards.

Except for online.

The whole thing is total complete bullshit. You Squizz fans need not worry much, at the very most it will be watered down metal for 3 hours when Ward Cleaver starts on Squizz in March.

I considered going to Sirius, but I just caught the virus and have a few other music channels I listen to on XM. So I just came back from getting a fucking MP3 player from Circuit City. 30 GB Creative Nomad Zen. It's cool and all, but shit I haven't had to break out the MP3s since got XM in 2003.

Just so pissed at XM right now.

For the fans, keep the e-mails coming. Doubt it will do much good. People had similar campaigns when Special X was pulled... Didn't work. And I'll be dammed if I give XM and extra $4 / month to listen to XMLM online. (even though if all the XMLM listeners signed up and listed to 42 online it would show XM how popular the channel was) But the fact is it probably wasn't that popular. It was just one of the niche channels that helped make XM unique. Sirius Hard Attack just doesn't compare.

[al885]

Hard attack was 10 times better than XMLM anyways. i can listen through dish network

[superXMfreak]

My hate mail has been sent...


BTW i tuned in squizz at noon to hear metal and i heard some fucking beck...

Cleaver doesn't start until March. So regardless of what the XM website says, I wouldn't expect much Noon to 3 metal until then. And I don't really expect much after that either. Ward is kind of limp bizkit, he likes that Compton bullshit.

[fhore twentee]

Dear XM -

"Damn it, are you fuckin with me??!" "You insensitive asshole!!"

[NevrLandRancher]

that was xms only other station worth listening to..... no one on the radio plays this kind of shit why would they pull it off?

[NevrLandRancher]

that was xms only other station worth listening to..... no one on the radio plays this kind of shit why would they pull it off? i convinced 2 of my friends to buy xm just because of this station xm people are retarded and i hope they choke

[Smoke]

At the very least, they could continute to offer it as an online only channel, as they do with other channels.

[Donkey Earl]

This is fucking BULLSHIT.

There's only 2 things I really listen to on this shitty XM and that's O&A and Liquid Metal.

I sent them my angry emails and if they don't tell me "Sorry sir we'll put Liquid Metal back on we made a mistake" I will absolutely cancel my XM for a few months at least and see if they smarten up.

I love O&A but I'm just not paying $12.99 a month for 130 stations and 129 of them suck dick. It's painfully easy to hear the O&A show WITHOUT having XM and these dumb fuckers should realize that and fix this mistake they made.

I hope this costs them a lot of customers.

[superXMfreak]

At the very least, they could continute to offer it as an online only channel, as they do with other channels.

It is and will be available online.

[Ziggy]

Ward Cleaver will be on SquiZZ starting in March.

Until then, please send all emails of support and comments in regard to changes to XMLM to this address where they can be handled properly:

liquidmetal@xmradio.com

Sending emails to other places may just find them deleted.

Also, check www.xmliquidmetal.com for more info in the future.

[Dr Midnight]

I'm severely fucking mad. After O&A, Liquid Metal was the ONLY... THE ONLY channel I cared for, and I gave them all a shot. Metal is its own genre, and people that like metal hate Squizz (the ones that I know, at least). What the fuck. They couldn't get rid of one of the four kinds of alternative/indie rock stations? There was only ONE metal station, and somebody fucked me.

I would jump to Sirius right now if it weren't for O&A. Shit.

[SurlyTonyDanza]

I love O&A but I'm just not paying $12.99 a month for 130 stations and 129 of them suck dick. It's painfully easy to hear the O&A show WITHOUT having XM and these dumb fuckers should realize that and fix this mistake they made.

I couldn't agree more. I've paid for a full year, and have already decided that I will not renew my XM subscribtion. XM sucks. I'll be listening to O and A on my iPod this October.

[Ziggy]

I'm severely fucking mad. After O&A, Liquid Metal was the ONLY... THE ONLY channel I cared for, and I gave them all a shot. Metal is its own genre, and people that like metal hate Squizz (the ones that I know, at least). What the fuck. They couldn't get rid of one of the four kinds of alternative/indie rock stations? There was only ONE metal station, and somebody fucked me.

I would jump to Sirius right now if it weren't for O&A. Shit.

I so agree with you... outside of OnA, XMLM was the only thing on XM that I really listened to as well.

A dark time for metal. Just when you think everything is going great, that the movement is growing crap like this happens.

[Moloko]

I just turned my radio on only to be greated with the god damn robotic voice from hitchhikers guide to the galaxy and some german asshole. 202 48, and 42 were the ONLY CHANNELS I listened to. I don't listen to 48 that much because most of the crap they play is garbage, with some good stuff mixed in. Now I'm basicly paying all this money a month for ONE station. FUCK YOU XM; FUCK YOU IN YOUR EYE.

[SteveSteele]

Fellow Wackbagger TazManiak has started an online petition. Sign it and let's get XMLM back. If we organize the army for some good, maybe we will get it back.

[Rev]

Fellow Wackbagger TazManiak has started an online petition. Sign it and let's get XMLM back. If we organize the army for some good, maybe we will get it back.Link?

[rmathus]

Not sure if TazManiak is the same person at xm411.com that started a petition, but here's a few links:

http://www.petitiononline.com/liqmetal/
http://www.xmliquidmetal.com (by Ziggy)

[Hudson]

They still have liquid Metal on their live feed

[houdini]

wtf they gotta go and fuck that channel up.

way to alienate more listeners XM. My one friend is about fed up w/ XM. He can't get crap of reception half the time for 202 (just the premium channel), then they take away channel 42 (his favorite channel that actually comes in).
(skyfi).
I'll try and convince him to stick it out until hopefully O&A is no longer a premium channel. Doubt he'll bother tho. I for one are pissed they yanked another good channel.

[Domino]

What year is this? Metal is irrelavant. Get a haircut and change with the times people.

[theclown]

The only reason you are saying that is to stir up commotion. I'll just simply say that it won't work.

[Domino]

Yeah.

[Gyp]

Mark me down as someone else that was either listening to 202 or 42 90% of the time. This is complete horseshit. XMLM getting the ax leaves a big hole as far as metal programming goes. Squizz blows ass and The Boneyard is just as horrible.

[JoeyBrash]

I still can't believe it, its not coming back no matter what we do. Lets get someone to call the boys and bitch over the air about, maybe they will talk about it???

[abudabit]

Yawn. Metal.

[Rev]

Yawn. Metal.Piss off, jackass.

Other folks are angry about programming being taken away that they enjoyed. No need to be an asshole, unwitty as the attempt was.

[CrazyMrPoopSex]

does this mean that more people listen to the african and world stations than XMLM

[BIV]

Yawn. Metal.
Up your ass.
This still pisses me off.

XMLM was not even a good metal station (too much of that growling can't understand the vocals crap and not enough machinhead, pantera, megadeath, testament type bands) but it was the only one.
Boneyard is okay, but it's stuck in the 80's and plays too much mellow.

There are five Alt. stations and seven urban. Any one of those could have gone before the only metal station.

No place left for actual guitar talent to go....

[superXMfreak]

does this mean that more people listen to the african and world stations than XMLM

Not really. I think Ngoma and World Zone, like some of the BS channels like VH1 and MTV are under some type of contract. XM picked a channel to axe that wasn't under contract and a channel that would likely loose the least amount of listeners compared to the listeners they would gain with baseball.

Charlie Logan the dude over the Rock channels said it would take something like 30,000 people to make a difference. So far there are about 2,600 signatures on that lame online petition.

[rmathus]

does this mean that more people listen to the african and world stations than XMLM

No. Most of those stations are provided under a contract with WorldSpace Satellite Radio (satellite radio for the rest of the world). Obviously, XM can't just drop those channels (along with a handful of other channels).

From Vyse @ xm411.com

What channels XM cannot eliminate due to existing contracts?
For this, I'll also list who's also backing these channels:
KISS, MIX, Nashville, Sunny:Clear Channel (influence waning since they pulled out their stake in XM)
U-POP, The System, World Zone, Ngoma: WorldSpace (global satellite radio service; WS also shares its technology with XM, as well as the city in which both companies have home bases [Washington, DC] )
The Torch, The Fish, Family Talk: Salem Satellite Media (a division of Christian radio giant Salem Communications)
Unsigned: Guitar Center (more or less a sponsor of the channel and a place to submit music for the channel)
Frank's Place: The Sinatra Family (all Frank Sinatra-related programming on the channel, and maybe the name)
Hear Music: Starbucks
Radio Disney, ABC News & Talk, ESPN Radio, ESPNEWS: Disney
FOX News, FOX Sports Radio Speed Channel programs on NASCAR Radio: FOX
CNN, Headline News, CNN en Espanol: Time Warner
MSNBC, CNBC: NBC Universal
The Weather Channel: TWC
Bloomberg Radio: Bloomberg
C-SPAN Radio: C-SPAN
BBC World Service: the BBC
XMPR: partners include Public Radio International and partners Chicago Public Radio and WGBH, American Public Media, and WBUR
Sporting News Radio: Sporting News
NASCAR Radio: MRN, PRN, FOX (Speed Channel), and NASCAR
MLB channels and college sports feeds: respective sports/conferences
MTV and VH1: Viacom
Discovery Radio: Discovery Communications
E! : Comcast/E!
Radio Classics: Radio Classics
Sonic Theater: Production Partners at following link: http://xmradio.com/programming/xm_feature.jsp?ch=163&id=243
The Power: Radio One (largest African-American Radio network in the US)
High Voltage: O&A/XM
Playboy Radio: Playboy
Traffic&Weather: Traffic Pulse/Weather Channel