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askewcore
06-08-2005, 12:32 AM
I have to take a drug test to get a job in the union in about a month of two. I need to know how to beat the drug test. I've been smoking weed everyday for about 7-8 years now and I dont know of a better place to ask this question than here. I dont really want to stop smoking, but I will if need be, if you guys can help me out with things that'll clean me out and/or mask the weed in my system it'd be fuckin sweet. I'm sure there's plenty of ya's who have had to beat drug tests before, let me know what you used and how effective it was. Thanks.
hobojd
06-08-2005, 12:49 AM
I have to take a drug test to get a job in the union in about a month of two. I need to know how to beat the drug test. I've been smoking weed everyday for about 7-8 years now and I dont know of a better place to ask this question than here. I dont really want to stop smoking, but I will if need be, if you guys can help me out with things that'll clean me out and/or mask the weed in my system it'd be fuckin sweet. I'm sure there's plenty of ya's who have had to beat drug tests before, let me know what you used and how effective it was. Thanks.
The last week leading up to the test eat a shitload of red meat, and take two multivitamins a day. The night before and the day of the test, drink shitloads of water and gatoraid. In your case this still may not be enough. But it'll give you a fighting chance.
If getting the job really means alot to you, stop smoking, normally people dont get 1-2 month notice for this. Feel blessed that you did. Stop smoking get the fucking job and celebrate with a fucking big ass bowl AFTER you get the job.
Mike H
06-08-2005, 01:02 AM
http://www.cleartest.com/products/index.html
hobojd
06-08-2005, 01:08 AM
http://www.cleartest.com/products/index.html
I've never used any of these products when beating a drug test. But from everything I've read they don't work and are a waste of money. Most people who beat the urine test using these products do so because they drank so much water and credit the product.
Like I said, I never used them. But I will say, I've smoke lots of weed in my life and have taken and passed(100%) multiple drug tests without buying any extra products.
Either way you decide, best of luck to you.
Mike H
06-08-2005, 01:10 AM
I used Urine Luck a few years ago. The product has changed since then, but it worked.
Pork Flaps
06-08-2005, 01:17 AM
I have to take a drug test to get a job in the union in about a month of two. I need to know how to beat the drug test. I've been smoking weed everyday for about 7-8 years now and I dont know of a better place to ask this question than here. I dont really want to stop smoking, but I will if need be, if you guys can help me out with things that'll clean me out and/or mask the weed in my system it'd be fuckin sweet. I'm sure there's plenty of ya's who have had to beat drug tests before, let me know what you used and how effective it was. Thanks.
Depending on your body weight, and if the job is important enough to you, stop now. Depending on your body weight you can clean out naturally within one month for about 125lb-250lb of luggage. You may want to make sure you increase your water consumption to at least 3 glasses a day. Depending on what kind of test you take (or how good of a lab they send your "specimen" to) they could also be testing for the masking agents as well. But hey, you gotta ask yourself three things:
1) Can I afford not to get this job?
2) How can I explain getting let go a week after starting when the results come back and you pissed hot?
3) Are you a gambler?
Really, if you are lucky enough to know its coming and you have that kinda time to prep, grow up a bit
roche
06-08-2005, 01:45 AM
Drink too much water and its over Johnnie
TaZMaNiaK
06-08-2005, 02:13 AM
You should be able to piss it all out in 2-3 weeks. THC is fat soluable, so if you are a little chubby, it's going to be on the higher side. DO NOT drink gallons of water at a time right before the test! They test the specific gravity of the sample as part of the test, and if there is too much water in it, you will be retested/fired. Not to mention, there IS such a thing as water intoxication, and it can kill you. You should be drinking 8-10 glasses of water a day anyway, and (except for the morning one) your uring should never be really yellow. Basically clear with a yellow tinge is what you're shooting for. Also, NEVER give morning piss as a sample! If your test is early, make sure you piss at least twice before you donate.
I have to piss for probation, and I stop smoking 2 weeks before, and I've never come up hot. 2-3 weeks, while it can be a bitch if your friends are assholes about it, shouldn't be a problem to abstain. Besides, that first toke afterwards is SOOOOOOO beautiful..
If it is really a problem to stop, you could always buy clean urine or have someone you know is clean piss for you (MUST be a male - they know the difference!). They won't watch you for an employment test, (hell, I don't get watched for probation), so get a little squirt bottle (a glue bottle works good), fill it, tape one of those chemical hand warmers to it, and stick it down your shorts. If the sample bottle has a thermometer strip on it, PAY ATTENTION TO IT! Don't give them one that reads 106. Let it cool a little, or run it under cold water for a few seconds. If they question you, you can just say you pissed on the bottle and were rinsing it off. If it doesn't have a thermometer, don't worry, because it's going right in a fridge, waiting to go to the lab.
One other thing I just thought of, cranberry juice is a great diuretic. Makes you piss gallons. I'd suggest a couple glasses a day.
your dads a pedo
06-08-2005, 02:20 AM
I took the urine/blood test and smoked every day up until about a week before the test I used the absolute detox from gnc...and gold seal pills i came up clean on both tests, I have heard that they test for gold seal now, Id check out vitamin shoppe or gnc and ask they usually are pretty helpful in my experience
TaZMaNiaK
06-08-2005, 02:22 AM
I took the urine/blood test and smoked every day up until about a week before the test I used the absolute detox from gnc...and gold seal pills i came up clean on both tests, I have heard that they test for gold seal now, Id check out vitamin shoppe or gnc and ask they usually are pretty helpful in my experience
YES, they test for GoldenSeal, as well as most other herbal/chemical adulterants/additives. DO NOT USE IT! Follow my advice and you'll be fine.
kidconnor
06-08-2005, 05:23 AM
If it is a hair test you are phucked.....goes back 3 months?
LilEvilGrin
06-08-2005, 05:33 AM
weed is out of the urine in 72 to 96 hours.. (about 4 days ) traces stay in the blood for up to 30 days and hair can go back 5 months to 3 years depending on which test they use.. so smoke ur balls off til a week before.. drink a gallon of water a day for the next 6 days and then take the test
houdini
06-08-2005, 06:12 AM
If you have two fucking months notice and you don't stop smoking weed now, your an idiot and don't deserve the job.
Two months is plenty of time. Goto testcountry.com and buy some THC test strips (cheepest on the web). Get about 10 of them and test yourself periodically until the test day arrives.
Also, after your done testing DON'T FUCKING SMOKE WEED! Wait until you get an all clear. I know a couple people that take the test, then get called back because the sample was inconclusive (they drank and pissed water), but when they go back to retest they fail from smoking after the first test.
Eventually like the fella on parole said, you get get your body chemistry down and know how long it takes to clean up. My friend can calculate his metobolites and cleanse time to the day. He actually plotted out his pot intake, tested himself etc until he figured out how many days it takes for him to test clean well below the legal limit.
TaZMaNiaK
06-08-2005, 06:34 AM
weed is out of the urine in 72 to 96 hours.. (about 4 days ) traces stay in the blood for up to 30 days and hair can go back 5 months to 3 years depending on which test they use.. so smoke ur balls off til a week before.. drink a gallon of water a day for the next 6 days and then take the test
No. That's wrong. Pot stays in your system for 2-3 weeks, and a simple litmus test strip WILL pick it up in a urine test. Don't risk it. 6 days is NOT enough.
There is a shampoo that will help you beat a hair test, but it is unlikely that a pre-emplyment test will be a hair test.
Eventually like the fella on parole said,
I'm on probation, not parole! I wasn't in jail! :action-sm
hobojd
06-08-2005, 08:01 AM
Drink too much water and its over Johnnie
Not if you eat lots of red meat and take the multivitamins the week(s) leading up to the test. They offset the signs that you're trying to delude the speciman.
houdini
06-08-2005, 05:38 PM
No. That's wrong. Pot stays in your system for 2-3 weeks, and a simple litmus test strip WILL pick it up in a urine test. Don't risk it. 6 days is NOT enough.
There is a shampoo that will help you beat a hair test, but it is unlikely that a pre-emplyment test will be a hair test.
I'm on probation, not parole! I wasn't in jail! :action-sm
my bad I was half asleep. :(
The metobolites store in your fat cells, so yeah that crap about it being out of your system in 72 hours is bunk. Your body release fat cells all the time. Eating the red meat helps to dillute the "infected cells" with fresh non infected cells.
mainliner
06-08-2005, 06:04 PM
One of my criminology professor in college used to work for a drug testing company he was the one that would analyze the testing methods. and he would tell us all the time that the over the counter "detox's" do not work reliably, now more than ever the testing thats done is more encompassing it also depends heavily on the type of test, if its a regular simple test you can get away with it using some of those things like golden seal but if its a in depth test like they use IOC uses youre gonna get caught because they test for specific chemical markers that are in those remedys,. about a year or so ago i went for atest for my work (a major bank) but you have to be smart because on my application i had checked yes to taking drugs there was a box that said within last 9 to 12 months so i said yes and when i took the test it was a follicle test it had come up positive but because i had said yes they were able to tell hat it had been about 4 months before i went in.
The folicle test is where youll run into trouble depending on how your hair grows it will last and traces can be found for like 6 or so months, and even if you shave your head it will still come up. and theyll take from other parts of your body if you shave your head they will take from your arm and that stores for a very very long time
oscardeladildo
06-08-2005, 06:36 PM
I was addicted to pain killers for some time and I got off them through the use of a drug called suboxone. However, suboxone is also an opiate/pain killer itself, just not as addictive and it helps you get off the heavy stuff.
Anyway, how do these kinds of drugs show up on a drug test? I don't want it to show that I am using heroine or anything, but I have no idea how it's done. Do they even bother testing for it, since people use it legitimately all the time?
I've been fortunate enough not to have to work for someone else since I own my business, but I am considering a career change and drug testing is inevitable. Just wondering what to expect.
mainliner
06-08-2005, 08:00 PM
I was addicted to pain killers for some time and I got off them through the use of a drug called suboxone. However, suboxone is also an opiate/pain killer itself, just not as addictive and it helps you get off the heavy stuff.
Anyway, how do these kinds of drugs show up on a drug test? I don't want it to show that I am using heroine or anything, but I have no idea how it's done. Do they even bother testing for it, since people use it legitimately all the time?
I've been fortunate enough not to have to work for someone else since I own my business, but I am considering a career change and drug testing is inevitable. Just wondering what to expect.
from what i was told by my professor the company he worked for used to test for certain chemical traces that are in those store brought meds, the chemicals that are used are only used at those concentrations in those products, also some have traces that make them known from other meds kinda like an id
Pickeled Punk
06-08-2005, 09:00 PM
As someone who smoked daily for 15 years i agree with most people here, you have warning if you want the job quit a month before the test. Ive been tested by the courts weekly and work random the only other sure thing is as someone else mentioned take a clean sample with you. It also depends on the level they test to as to how long it will take to be a clean test.
Farm Flufer
06-08-2005, 10:51 PM
This always worked for me
STOP DOING DRUGS!
Bone Dry
06-08-2005, 11:13 PM
My dad use to drug test my brother and me. If it's a regular piss test then you can easily pass it. There’s a drink I use to get at this head shop that always worked it was a lot of plants and roots crap like that but I never got busted. I think the best place to check is a head shop those fuckin wastes of life know how to pass a drug test.
ih8Uboo-boo
06-09-2005, 01:30 PM
Two words: The whizzinator...
http://www.whizzinator.com/
mainliner
06-09-2005, 01:52 PM
Urine sales soar as workers dodge drug tests
Oil-patch employees and other Albertans are increasingly buying real and synthetic urine to pass workplace drug tests, sellers say. The oil-and-gas industry uses drug testing to ensure workers are fit to perform in potentially dangerous environments.
One oilfield worker, who runs a machine that lifts thousands of tonnes of machinery, said he smokes marijuana after hours and has purchased the substitute urine to pass the tests.
"At work, I don't smoke marijuana," the man told CBC News on condition of anonymity.
"Actually, I'm missing my two front teeth because of another fellow who was smoking weed on the job."
He said the urine, which can be purchased at retail and online stores and costs less than $50, is the only way to get around increasingly sophisticated drug tests. Some workers stash urine in lockers
Benjamin Currie, who runs True North Hemp Company in Edmonton, said he's been selling more of the urine products recently.
Currie said some workers leave the products in their lockers in case of random testing.
"For people who get a test sprung on them and they get no warning, no time, then they will often do that, because it's like a last resort," Currie said.
He warned that fooling the drug tests could lead to unsafe workplaces. Tests single out marijuana users: critic
But Currie also criticized the tests as unfair, because they're more likely to catch someone who smoked marijuana weeks earlier than someone who used cocaine or methamphetamine more recently.
Marijuana stays in the system longer than other drugs and can be detected longer after use.
"Firing people because there is a possibility they could have smoked pot that day, when really they could have smoked it a couple of weeks ago, they are losing valuable employees," Currie said.
"And hiring employees who are using any other substance that wouldn't be caught in a test."
He estimated he sells dozens of the kits each week, saying they're becoming more popular than masking kits that offer inconclusive results.
Many companies have changed their regulations so they don't allow for inconclusive results, which made masks less attractive, Currie said. As well, for them to work, a user would have had to be clean for 48 hours.
The kits tend to be purchased by marijuana users, he said. No test perfect, province says
Peter Kisner, of the Alberta Alcohol and Drug Addiction Commission, said the urine kits are legal.
He said those doing the testing can only observe from behind, making it easy for workers to substitute the clean urine for their own.
"There are no perfect systems," Kisner said. "If you can smuggle drugs into prison systems, you are not going to have a perfect system for the workplace, either."
http://www.cbc.ca/story/science/national/2005/06/07/urine-050607.html
LilEvilGrin
06-16-2005, 03:40 AM
No. That's wrong. Pot stays in your system for 2-3 weeks, and a simple litmus test strip WILL pick it up in a urine test. Don't risk it.
i work for one of the two medical labs that does most of the testing in the tri-state area.. quoted the book on this one.. did it myself for the once a month drug testing we go thru as employees.. i have yet to fail in 7 years of working there.. but hey everyone's system is different... and i actually stop 9 days before the test not 6 so i apologize for that.
but they are right.. if ya got two months then stop for now. just dont blow it and eat a loaf of poppy seed bread before the test..myth busters proved it would show up on the test :icon_wink
NUGHUFFER
06-16-2005, 04:09 AM
Not if you eat lots of red meat and take the multivitamins the week(s) leading up to the test. They offset the signs that you're trying to delude the speciman.
Dude it's very simple, and dont listen to any of these guys. I was on a very STRICT probationary period in Bergen Co. NJ which was up my ass practically 24/7. Water............plain old H2O will do the trick. Drink as much as you can stand literally, and your first 2-3 pisses should be clear. If clear then you are GOOD to go! Marijuana collects in your Fat Cells, and that is the reason it takes soo long to get out of your system. Water makes your body Hold In everything and just piss out plain old water at body temp. :icon_wink
I have passed EVERY test i've taken this way. BTW Bergen Co. probation in Hakensack is NO JOKE!
If you're worried about the COLOR of your piss in said test then the day before eat 1-2 B12 Vitamins to make your piss a nice dark yellow.
Just a heads up: Drinking that much water may lead to "yoohoo ass" be careful.
JavaLogBoy
06-18-2005, 02:22 AM
what ever you do dont eat poppy seeds
TaZMaNiaK
06-18-2005, 03:31 AM
Poppy seeds wouldn't be a problem, or it shouldn't anyway. Pre-employment screenings are required to be double-checked in the event of a positive result. They use a basic litmus test as a cheap initial screen, but if a positive is indicated, the sample is tested again using gas chromatography. While poppy seeds will cause a positive on a chemical test, the gas chromatograph will show the absence of a specific metabolite unique to heroin/morphine/opium, which is not present in poppy seeds. Contrary to what the government believes, this is also the correct way to test for marijuana impairment. Gas chromatography can indicate the difference between and levels of active (psychoactive) THC in the system (whos presence would indicate that you are or recently were under the influence), and the non-psychoactive metabolites that are left over in your system for weeks after consumption.
I smoke pot, responsibly. I don't drive while impaired (and I despise drunk driving), and I don't operate machinery (if you don't count taking a floor buffer for a ride). However, I would tend to have a lot more trust in the abilities of someone who's smoked up than someone whos been up for a week straight on a meth bender.
Back on track, if you eat poppy seeds and are denied employment due to a false positive on a drug test that was not double checked, you have grounds to file suit, and you will win. It has been won before, many times. That is why they have to double check.
SatansCheerledr
06-20-2005, 08:25 PM
Don’t sweat it. Marijuana is completely out of your system in 30 days. Do some online research on it to put your mind at ease. Those urine cleanser drinks really do work too to be on the extra safe side. No worries, your golden Bro.
ChrisH
06-20-2005, 08:51 PM
I was addicted to pain killers for some time and I got off them through the use of a drug called suboxone. However, suboxone is also an opiate/pain killer itself, just not as addictive and it helps you get off the heavy stuff.
Anyway, how do these kinds of drugs show up on a drug test? I don't want it to show that I am using heroine or anything, but I have no idea how it's done. Do they even bother testing for it, since people use it legitimately all the time?
I've been fortunate enough not to have to work for someone else since I own my business, but I am considering a career change and drug testing is inevitable. Just wondering what to expect.
I would suggest that you be upfront and tell them before the test that you have a prescription (I presume) for Suboxone as well as any other prescriptions (even if benign, like Ambien or an antibiotic).
As a lawyer, you have to pass a sort of background test called "character and fitness." The test varies from state to state, but basically you have to admit to EVERYTHING you have EVER done that you have been in trouble for (I am in NY, and had to admit to getting a friggin' ticket for smoking a cigarette on MTA property--outside at Yankee stadium...f'ing Giuliani). They say that, as long as you are honest upfront, you can still be admitted despite getting in some trouble. My advice (NOT legal advice, just as a regular joe) is that you own up to your scrip, and if they ask you about it, say that you had a problem but have beaten it. This country is remarkably forgiving if you a) admit to whatever problem you had, and b) have sought treatment/forgiveness for it.
ChrisH
06-20-2005, 08:53 PM
Poppy seeds wouldn't be a problem, or it shouldn't anyway. Pre-employment screenings are required to be double-checked in the event of a positive result. They use a basic litmus test as a cheap initial screen, but if a positive is indicated, the sample is tested again using gas chromatography. While poppy seeds will cause a positive on a chemical test, the gas chromatograph will show the absence of a specific metabolite unique to heroin/morphine/opium, which is not present in poppy seeds. Contrary to what the government believes, this is also the correct way to test for marijuana impairment. Gas chromatography can indicate the difference between and levels of active (psychoactive) THC in the system (whos presence would indicate that you are or recently were under the influence), and the non-psychoactive metabolites that are left over in your system for weeks after consumption.
I smoke pot, responsibly. I don't drive while impaired (and I despise drunk driving), and I don't operate machinery (if you don't count taking a floor buffer for a ride). However, I would tend to have a lot more trust in the abilities of someone who's smoked up than someone whos been up for a week straight on a meth bender.
Back on track, if you eat poppy seeds and are denied employment due to a false positive on a drug test that was not double checked, you have grounds to file suit, and you will win. It has been won before, many times. That is why they have to double check.
Interesting article on Snopes.com (the site that confirms or debunks a lot of urban myths) about poppy seeds and drug tests.
http://www.snopes.com/toxins/poppy.htm
SatansCheerledr
06-20-2005, 08:54 PM
Ok, I’m going to elaborate on what I posted already a little. It depends on the test as well. If they send you to the local hospital for a routine urine drug screen you are fine if you don’t smoke for 30 days prior. Companies that do a lot of testing and are testing for insurance reasons (which is usually the case.) use this method. More sophisticated (and expensive) urine screening tests will most likely not pick up the pot if you use a urine cleanser drink BUT it will detect the urine cleanser. If you are already an employee they can not use this against you. If you are applying for a job and they detect it (the cleanser) they can do whatever they want, meaning to choose not to hire you. Follicle drug screens are fairly expensive and are not commonly used because the cost adds up fast for a company if used routinely. Most companies drug test in the first place for insurance reasons for pre-employment and periodic screening purposes. Follicle test are used almost exclusively at the request of insurance companies in the case of on the job related accidents so they don’t have to pay out any premiums. This is a union job you are applying for so don’t smoke till after your test. Once you are in the union they can’t hold finding the cleanser against you in the future. If you think there is any chance they will give you a follicle test (which is almost a 0% chance) use a follicle cleanser shampoo, throw the dice and take your chances. I worked as a county corrective psychologist for about a year after I got out of school so I actually know what I am talking about. I despise the Man with every fiber of my being so I am happy to answer any further questions or concerns you have.
ChrisH
06-20-2005, 08:58 PM
Just as a quick aside, if anyone wants a cheap, easy way to completely and utterly clean out your backside, try Ethiopian food. Holy hell, it is good stuff, but you will crap nonstop for up to a week!
SatansCheerledr
06-20-2005, 09:10 PM
Just as a quick aside, if anyone wants a cheap, easy way to completely and utterly clean out your backside, try Ethiopian food. Holy hell, it is good stuff, but you will crap nonstop for up to a week!
Drug Poo test?
ChrisH
06-20-2005, 09:11 PM
Drug Poo test?
Nope, I've just been shitting nonstop for a week, and figured that in a thread about how to expell all traces of something, I could make a quick aside about it.
I stink. :icon_redf
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