Was High Voltage cause of Chipset Burnout?

[Nothing Sound]

Alot of you guys around here seem to know alot about computers, so I'll throw this one out there.

My girlfriends Brother built her a computer about 2 years ago. Last year her Motherboard blew out.
When I opened up the case I noticed that the Chipset Fan was not working and her bright brother
didn't install a case fan when he built it. I figured the chipset was burnt out due to fan failure
and because there was no case fan that didn't help things any.

Due to low funds and her access to my laptop, we just got around to replacing the Motherboard
last week. I installed the Motherboard along with a nice new case fan. This motherboard doesn't have
a chipset fan, it has heat fins instead. Along with the drivers the board came with a monitoring utility
thingy that monitors the Temp and Voltage. After installing the utility thingy and opening it up
it immediately began to Beep. After checking things out I find that the +3.3V is running at 4.1V.

Could this have contributed to the demise of her first Motherboard?
Am I in danger of losing the Chip set on this new Motherboard?
Should I replace the Power Supply to be safe?

Any input is welcome.

[Smoke]

Alot of you guys around here seem to know alot about computers, so I'll throw this one out there.
I hope I do, but some dickhead customer today kept asking the same damn thing over and over... "What do you mean you can't plug that in?" "Doesn't fit" "What do you mean?" FU ASSFACE!

Anyhow...

My girlfriends Brother built her a computer about 2 years ago. Last year her Motherboard blew out. When I opened up the case I noticed that the Chipset Fan was not working and her bright brother didn't install a case fan when he built it. I figured the chipset was burnt out due to fan failure and because there was no case fan that didn't help things any.
I never understood why people skimp on cooling, fans are very important. If your only air outtake is the power supply you're not getting optimal cooling.

For anyone who builds their own box I recommend getting a front fan controller panel and at least two case fans. You use the controller to turn them down so they are ultra quiet, its a beautiful thing.

I'm an ubergeek so I'm maxed out with fans, two on the power supply (420W ;), one on the front (hard disks), one on the back for extra outtake, and a huge Zalman processor cooler. I am so 1337.

Due to low funds and her access to my laptop, we just got around to replacing the Motherboard last week. I installed the Motherboard along with a nice new case fan. This motherboard doesn't have
a chipset fan, it has heat fins instead. Along with the drivers the board came with a monitoring utility thingy that monitors the Temp and Voltage. After installing the utility thingy and opening it up it immediately began to Beep. After checking things out I find that the +3.3V is running at 4.1V.
That's way way off. I'd say replace it just to be safe.
Could this have contributed to the demise of her first Motherboard?
Yep.
Am I in danger of losing the Chip set on this new Motherboard?
Yep.
Should I replace the Power Supply to be safe?
Yep.

Can I have a cookie now?

[roche]

I used to have a video clip of these people filming them taking the heatsink and fan off of the cpu. It died within three or four seconds.

You are really fucking up your processor and probally the motherboard at the same time. Turn it off and go get a new heatsink/fan combo for the chip.

[Nothing Sound]

Can I have a cookie now?


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Thank You Mister :)

[Nothing Sound]

You are really fucking up your processor and probally the motherboard at the same time. Turn it off and go get a new heatsink/fan combo for the chip.

I think once I get the new Power Supply, over heating won't be a problem.
The CPU is running at 83.6 degrees, which is fine.
I won't be turning the machine back on until the new Power Supply is in.

[roche]

I think once I get the new Power Supply, over heating won't be a problem.
The CPU is running at 83.6 degrees, which is fine.
I won't be turning the machine back on until the new Power Supply is in.

NO! Spend the 20 dollars on a decent heatsink-fan combo. Trust me.

[Nothing Sound]

NO! Spend the 20 dollars on a decent heatsink-fan combo. Trust me.


http://images.tigerdirect.com/skuimages/large/C283-1062.jpg

[Smoke]

http://images.tigerdirect.com/skuimages/large/C283-1062.jpg
What the hell is that little thing?

Try this one (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835106043) and have fun putting it in.

[Smoke]

NO! Spend the 20 dollars on a decent heatsink-fan combo. Trust me.
Nah, in this case, maybe both. That PS is mos def a problem, but I assume he just got a new hs/f with the new board and processor? Right?

[Pork Flaps]

If a chipset fan is not provided by the manufacturer, chances are you dont need one. They test their boards before releasing them and determine if a heatsink is sufficient to cool the chipset. They always provide shitty little fans for chipsets anyhow, usually the first thing on the board to go. The fact that the previous board had one and it was not working probably contributed to the demise of that board. Typically most people who decide to venture into their own computer building adventure tend to skimp realy bad on a power supply by using the piece of shit PS that came with the case,
BAD BAD BAD.even if its stamped 400 watts, its a no name brand piece of garbage, Antec, Enermax, Ultra or another name brand power supply should serve you well.

Go to Tigerdirect.com and get yourself a nice Ultra 400-500 w power supply. I would also use the OEM Heatsink and fan combo for your processor unless you are overclocking the processor (another Bad idea if you dont have disposable income to throw at another processor)
As for your case, its not necessary to fill every provisioned space with a fan. It is important to pay attention to air flow through your case, Intake through the front out through the back (since the biggest heatsource in your case is you processor you want that heat out of the case quickly), you dont need to fans on the side and fans on the top as they only tend to interfere with a good flow through air pattern. The new BTX (as opposed to the current ATX standard) is coming out soon which will make computer cooling more gooder, the current ATX case layout is just not designed for proper cooling.
Hope that helps Sir

[Nothing Sound]

What the hell is that little thing?

Try this one (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835106043) and have fun putting it in.

Damn

That looks more like a radiator for a car.

[Nothing Sound]

Nah, in this case, maybe both. That PS is mos def a problem, but I assume he just got a new hs/f with the new board and processor? Right?


Yes sir.
I picked up a nice new fan and heatsink combo for the new processor.

[Nothing Sound]

If a chipset fan is not provided by the manufacturer, chances are you dont need one. They test their boards before releasing them and determine if a heatsink is sufficient to cool the chipset.

We were kinda thinking the same thing. Considering that the case never even had a fan
installed from when her Brother built it and now it has a nice new case fan the over heating problem should no longer be a problem.

Go to Tigerdirect.com and get yourself a nice Ultra 400-500 w power supply.

That's exactly what we were looking at over on Tigerdirect. They have a nice deal on one for $69.99
with a $30 rebate. I think that will do just fine.

[Mindriot]

If you have room, I would put 2 case fans in. One in the front drawing air in and then one in the back drawing air out.

Also, I'm a little confused as to what you mean by chip set. Usually when one refers to the chip set it usually means the North Bridge, not the CPU. Can you clear this up for me as to what you meant.

BTW what CPU and Mobo is this your building?

[Pork Flaps]

We were kinda thinking the same thing. Considering that the case never even had a fan
installed from when her Brother built it and now it has a nice new case fan the over heating problem should no longer be a problem.



That's exactly what we were looking at over on Tigerdirect. They have a nice deal on one for $69.99
with a $30 rebate. I think that will do just fine.
Agreed, Im really impressed with the Ultra components they sell and the quality is up there with the more expensive stuff.

Excellent Sir! Your computer should give you a few years of fine performance.


Anytime you or anyone else on this board has computer issues or questions, please feel free to PM me, I will do my best to get you the most accurate advice/answers. (Me works for Big Blue) :icon_bigg

[Red_State_Rube]

Agreed, Im really impressed with the Ultra components they sell and the quality is up there with the more expensive stuff.

Excellent Sir! Your computer should give you a few years of fine performance.


Anytime you or anyone else on this board has computer issues or questions, please feel free to PM me, I will do my best to get you the most accurate advice/answers. (Me works for Big Blue) :icon_bigg

Actually Ultra has been losing alot of respect lately, their products have gone way downhill lately, most people (along with me now) will not reccomend them. I had one, was having stability problems, upgraded to an OCZ Modstream and the stability problems were gone. Anywho, here's a good powersupply guide with some good reccomendations.

http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=136602

[Nothing Sound]

If you have room, I would put 2 case fans in. One in the front drawing air in and then one in the back drawing air out.

Also, I'm a little confused as to what you mean by chip set. Usually when one refers to the chip set it usually means the North Bridge, not the CPU. Can you clear this up for me as to what you meant.

BTW what CPU and Mobo is this your building?


That's what burnt out on the old Motherboard, The Northbridge (chipset), not the CPU (processor).

I just put in an ABit KV7 Motherboard with an AMD Athlon 2900+ processor.

I know it's not the best out there, but it was a good deal and right within her budget, for now.
The most demanding thing she really does is Flash and once we upgrade the RAM to 1GB, I think she'll be just fine.

I also installed an 80mm case fan in the rear.
Considering it never even had a case fan, that's a vast improvement.

[RandomNY]

Me works for Big Blue)


So when IBM sold off thier PC division did you have to relocate to CHINA?

[DoughBoy]

I'm a big fan (no pun intended) of tornado fans. Sure they're loud, but with a fantastic heatsink attached, you can keep almost anything cold.

I concur that the fella above needs to pick up a decent PSU with some nice steady rails.

[Smoke]

I'm a big fan (no pun intended) of tornado fans. Sure they're loud, but with a fantastic heatsink attached, you can keep almost anything cold.
I got one used and with it on a single Zalman controller it's awesome. Still loud but not overbearing.

[RandomNY]

Sorry I love my WATERCOOLING and will never use AIR to cool my CPU ever again.

[Pork Flaps]

Me works for Big Blue)


So when IBM sold off thier PC division did you have to relocate to CHINA?

No Im pretty safe where I'm at :rolleyes: