Dazed and Confuzed.

[Glenn Dandy]

In the song they say " Soul of a woman was created below"

I can remember dreams of getting married, trusting my beuatiful wife with my life.

I'm 37 and honestly those dreams are now dead. I started this thread to see what the general concensus is here among the guys.

My opinion to start off, is their all greedy self serving bitches. This is not a man scorned its 37 years of dealing with woman and their bullshit. I think they lie like no tommorrow, have zero feelings unless its about them.
I have decided to just use and abuse them. This is what they have taught me to do. Am i crazy? or is this the way it is. I just met a new girl who seems like a dream. Im afraid im so tainted from all the shitty girls Ive had. I will not give her a chance.
Tell me theres sweet normal girls around.

The one thing i've seen that gets me is. Guys are guys< ya meet a guy you know right away if hes an asshole or not. Girls can put on a facade for years untill they flip like a switch and become the nastiest bitch alive. Thats just freaks me out :icon_eek:

Hopefully i can hear a positive or two from someone, and i would apreciate your age in this. typed out like this please. :action-sm

1)age.

2)relationship status.

3)comment.

[Myhairygrundle]

Sir, it is way to early to be drinking. Unless of course, you are continuing last night.

I understant your thoughts. I too have been burned by women and their trickery. If they would only say what they want and mean it, I would still be married.

Now before all you sweet female wackbaggers tear me a new one, I am only speaking from experience. I know us menfolk can be just as bad.

As a wise man once said, "Never trust anything that bleeds for a week and dosen't die." Too much?


Per your request:

1. 30
2. Divorced
3. See above

[Glenn Dandy]

I am forced to be just as bad. I wish i could be myself NICE! thats the question here is just being yourself " NICE" a death sentence for all woman.

Q: can you be nice to a woman, and not have her stomp you in the nuts? :action-sm

The new hot girl.. see POSTGF PIC thread. Is awsome i cannot figure out how to treat her. If im nice again and get screwed i'll be so pissed at myself. But! if im a prick like usual will she be like wtf is his deal. Its hard to know if there are any girls the prick routine doesnt work with. Im leaning toward just being myself nice this one last time so i can put the question to rest in my mind atleast.

[Glenn Dandy]

What no opinions on this Geeez! Well, ill run it up the flag poll one more time.

[generoso]

1 41
2. Divorced 10 years and just got out of a lovling relationship

Comment ..We all start out with a false frount showing the other the other person our best side. be honest be truthful and following you heart and mind...now go drink another drink Glenn...

[JSHAW]

1. 41

2. 2nd Marriage - going strong 6 years since Dec. 1999, First marriage ended in July 1992.

3. I think it works both ways, there are guys that are just as selfish, greedy, needy as there are women that are selfish, greedy, needy, etc. Both women and men can act the same ways when it comes to relationships. There are women that like bad boys, there are men that like skanky hoes with no strings attached. Each person should have their own threshold for how much bullshit and how much crap they will tolerate in another person. When you figure out what that threshold is, and what your standards are, you go from there and attempt to meet a person that will tolerate your habits and how much they will put up with yours.

I got very lucky. My wife DOES NOT go out shopping and spend a shitload of money. She does not constantly complain that she doesn't get what she wants, she's very low maintenance. My wife DOES NOT like to go out to clubs, she isn't an alcoholic and she doesn't do drugs. She likes staying at home, she likes going out every now and then to a restuarant, a movie, she's not looking to be wined & dined, we're married, we don't do that shit. People who actively DATE do that shit. Dating is all bullshit. Nobody is themselves when they're dating, you're on a job interview for your next piece of pussy and you'll lie, cheat and steal to get inside the panties.

If you can't be yourself what's the use? I hate fake phony people, and I don't waste my time hanging out with fake phony people.

If you go online and read people's personal ad's, that shit is so bogus it's not even funny. How many people do you know that are constantly traveling and spending time at the beach? People in those ads don't say what they're REALLY like, but what they'd really like to be doing if they're leaching off of someone else's wallet/credit card.

Good Luck Glenn Dandy, don't let the bitches get ya!

[invisible76]

1) 28
2) Married
3) I don't trust anyone. EVERYONE is selfish and self centered and will knife you in the back as soon as you don't agree with them, not just women.

[tar_baby]

http://www.big-boys.com/articles/troylove.html

well just as long as you don't end up like this guy

[pike]

There are certainly a lot of cunts out there. But there are just as many dickhead guys as well. Misogynist! :)

We've all had bad relationships.. I think people are just too quick to rush into marriage today. No one really understands what commitment is. People are very selfish. The biggest problem I see in troubled relationships is the man and woman aren't usually on the same page about their expectations.

Your wife/girlfriend should be your best friend, not just a fuck buddy. If you can't honestly say that, you probably need to re-evaluate your relatioship or what you intend to get out of it.

-Mike

[BCH]

I think I'll stay out of this one GD :action-sm

[HummerTuesdays]

1. 30-ish
2. Single

Comments? Is it really too much to ask for a guy that's: employed, financially stable, and looking for more than just to just get his dick wet? And yes, I am on a bit of a man-hating rampage at the moment. :)

[BCH]

you looking HT? I have a bunch of 30 ish friends.

[generoso]

1. 30-ish
2. Single

Comments? Is it really too much to ask for a guy that's: employed, financially stable, and looking for more than just to just get his dick wet? And yes, I am on a bit of a man-hating rampage at the moment. :)
Actually no ..But is it also much to ask for a lady not to judgemntal about every little thing, And maybe you have friends outside your relationship you would like to hang with alone with getting the evileye...Just saying

[HummerTuesdays]

Actually no ..But is it also much to ask for a lady not to judgemntal about every little thing, And maybe you have friends outside your relationship you would like to hang with alone with getting the evileye...Just saying

Not at all. But be careful of what you wish for. I have acquaintances who are such close friends that when you date one, you pretty much date both, but without the benefits of a 3-some. :)

[savethewave]

1. 41
2. Divorced, bitterly, after 7-year marriage
3. It takes two for everything, and we both chose the wrong person. It is possible for a woman to not be a bitch, and for a guy to not be an asshole, and have the relationship fail anyway.

Even though it did not work for me, I remain optimistic for others. I do not thing I will ever get married again, but that does not mean that I do not believe that marriage can work for people, even ones who have been divorced.

I am at the point where I am not ready to go into any kind of serious relationship, but neither am I engaging in a series of abusive "revenge fucks," either. That is simply bad form, rude, and unfair to women that had nothing to do with the situation.

I go with this mindset, and it works for me right at this point: I try to make sure that any woman I am with is completely disappointed in the next guy she is with after me.

Life is entirely too short to carry around that much venom.

[Dark Reyule]

1. 30 (as of 9/2)
2. Married 1 year on 10/2
3. I have run the gamebit on relationships but always dusted myself off until I met my wife 4 years ago. I found people always find the right one when they stop looking for that person.

[bubbawadd]

1. 36
2. Married 11 Yrs
3. Met my wife in seventh grade, dated in High School, went our separate ways after high school since the reality was we were going different places. I went out and lived life the way I wanted. Came back from Germany after being stationed there while in the Army, we reconnected and got married about a year and a half later.

Yea....a lot of women are bull shit and only in it for themselves, but most of the time you can sense it and get out. You really gotta know the chick before you jump in for the long haul. Most guys are just lead around by the chance of getting steady snatch which ultimatly ends in their downfall!!!!

There's no one to blame but yourself when things go wrong.

[flyerfan116]

In the song they say " Soul of a woman was created below"
Hopefully i can hear a positive or two from someone, and i would apreciate your age in this. typed out like this please. :action-sm

1)age.

2)relationship status.

3)comment.

1)age - 28

2)relationship status - single

3)comment - Sorry I can't help you out on the positive comment thing...right now i am in women-hating mode and if there was an alternative that didn't involve another penis i would seriously consider it. seems like every one you meet turns into a selfish hole at one point or another. I am who I am..I am straightforward and honest, for the most part i am a good guy but yeah i can be a prick if pushed hard enough but i am upfront about that from the get go....women put on this front then turn on you at the drop of a hat. Now i am trying really hard not to give up on the whole 'one day i'll find the 'one' and get married' bullshit but its getting harder and harder. I've had 4 girls dick me over in the past month and i couldn't give you one good reason why on any of them. I don't get it and i find myslef getting more and more bitter about it.

[Glenn Dandy]

It just seems to me. Theres this scenario were if you are just a regular nice guy, Most girls are bored by that idea. I be;lieve this to be true. Where i stumble is when i try to figure out if a girl is for real or just playing a game. And how to reciprocate accordingly.

Hell i dont even know what im talking about. I guess thats why i started this stupid thread.

Confusing shit. I guess the worst or best advice is to just trust your gut. and if it doesnt work, Fuck it.

[tar_baby]

girls love the nice guy after they've been fucked over by the asshole

im only 22 and i think games are worthless.....bitches who play games arent worth anyones time...i always think they'll get theirs when they get older or if some dude they fall in love with drops them like a bad habit.

to find out simply ask them i say....thats what I do...if theyre looking for something they'll let u know...if they aren't then they'll just tell you but u gotta at least ask...though not on the first date...then u'll just look like a psycho

[Dark Reyule]

im only 22 and i think games are worthless.....bitches who play games arent worth anyones time...i always think they'll get theirs when they get older or if some dude they fall in love with drops them like a bad habit.




YUP, unfortunately they are always smoing hot. :icon_evil

[flyerfan116]

It just seems to me. Theres this scenario were if you are just a regular nice guy, Most girls are bored by that idea. I be;lieve this to be true. .

I completely agree with you, its like you have to be a prick to get anywhere like the most recent one. Happened to see her in a bar a few weeks ago we used to work together when we were late teens-early 20's now i know she's had a hard time, has a kid, divorced whatever, so i'm thinking baggage yes but maybe she is done with the games and i know she's a cool girl. so that night she invites herself back to my place tells her friends to leave b/c she is going home with me...i'm thinking good deal, get back to my place starting getting into it hardcore and she stops says she is not that kind of girl and doesn't want to do anything she'll regret just b/c she's loaded, always liked me, wants to see if something is there, blah blah blah so i'm pissed but i figure just a rain delay, talk a few times during the week supposed to go out friday, she had to cancel due to family emergency found out later nothing too serious but her babysitter had to leave as a result) whatever so we decide to do something on sat. she was going to call me. that was the last thing i heard, nothing since then, now if ur not into it then fine don't make plans, & don't call me 3 times friday night saying ur trying to work something out...i don't know the whole story yet but it feels like a game to me.

[HummerTuesdays]

Glenn Dandy, I can't speak for all women, but I'm not bored with a nice guy. What I do get bored with is the push over guy that caters to whatever I want. He'll call up, ask me out, and then expect *me* to plan the date (what to do, where to eat, etc). I'm not a fucking event planner! Or the guys who's standard answer is, "Whatever you want to do." Fucking have an opinion and voice it.

And Flyerfan, I get where you're coming from. It happens to us girls too.

So far the only thing I've learned from this thread is that both sexes are complaining about the same things. Hmmmm.

[flyerfan116]

And Flyerfan, I get where you're coming from. It happens to us girls too.
.

i'm sure it does..sucks doesn't it?....maybe when you are done with ur man hating phase & i'm done with the woman hating we should get together :icon_lol:

[JeebJeebJeeb]

26
married almost 5 years

marriage is HARD. you got 2 people with different personalities together in one place pretty much all the time. theres jealousy, resentment, lust, happiness, impatience and many other feelings there with you as well.

what have i learned so far(i realize ive got much more to go) you gotta learn to give up somethings if you want to gain other things. also depending on the woman, guys just have to TAKE CHARGE sometimes.

my 2 cents.

[d0uche_n0zzle]

We should have never given them the right to vote.

[Glenn Dandy]

My dad has a theory. Well a few actualy. And he is usually 1000% right about everything.

#1 he says, " Bars and girls dont mix. If you take your date to a bar you are looking for trouble."

#2 mutual need, Its kinda of shitty way to look at it but! If like his setup they both have $$ dont need each other can say go F yourself mutualy at anytime. But she cooks n cleans, He cares for the house mows,,, etc,,, mutualt rewarding relationship.

I thijk if you can get a woman who doesnt frequent bars, (needs selfassurance) ( needs shallow compliments) And you can interweave a mutualy satifying existence you have something.

And i would also say having the same type likes, like lets say travel. or the beach. etc things you both like i thinks important.

[TheSolipsist]

1. 20
2. 4 year relationship

3. I've had my share of crushes, crash and burns, nothingness. I met my chick while we were in highschool, through mutual friends. We talked on the phone for about 8 months before we actually met each other in person. We fell in love with each other. Then she fell out of "love" with me, and I had to go my seperate way. Then we got back together, she fell out of "love" again and I went seperate way, again. We both grew up a little and got back together for a whole year, a beautiful perfect year. Then she got pressured in with School, Family, and influences from friends. Turned out she fell out of love with me again, so again i went my seperate way. She started talking to some other dude(s) and realized she was still in love with me but needed space, blah blah blah. By this time i was fed up with the game and stupidness of it all. When she called up one day and appologized, I had to put it into perspective with her. I told her to step back for a second and look at the all the times we've broken up, as well as all the good times we've had. I made her realize that everytime, she went on with her merry way, and as miserable as i was i grit my teeth and moved on. Every single time, SHE would come back to ME, SHE needed ME. And I obviously didn't need her. For her to take advantage of my caring for her, has taken a toll on my patients with her. There are no more games, we may be young, but that doesn't mean we can't act like adults, and have a mature stable relationship. She kinda got the picture, and now she makes an extra effort to step back from her psycotic/schizophrenic woman behavior and actually act like a rational human being.

So, of course I have taken her back, but...who knows for how long. Don't get me wrong, I love her, I am in love with her, I could spend the rest of my life with her, and I am most definetely happy, but...women are women and rational and reason seems to elude them. Am I stupid for taken her back over and over again? No, I am quite happy, and that's becuase I keep myself as emotionally distant as possible. A woman shouldn't know your every thought or feelings, as long as u don't completely shut them out, they should respect that. If jealousy or distrust is an issue, then your going to have a big problem. My business is mine, and her's is her's. Whatever we decide to share with each other, that's the love part everyone talks about. Once I know for a fact that she's done with the games whole heartedly, my emotional distance from her with shorten, 'till eventually it dissapears. (again, my business is mine etc.) When the emotional distance is gone, u'll find that sharing urself with someone else and vice-versa is what trust is all about, what love is all about, and it becomes the easiest thing ever. There is no bigger destroyer of a relationship than distrust.

When ever u meet someone new, u have to realize that ur meeting a shell, and u have yet to meet the person they really are. That goes for both men and women. U should never trust anyone automatically, trust has to be earned, it's not given away. Once u get to know someone, then u have to go through the motions, u go through ur ups and downs, and then and only then can u start to piece together whether or not ur compatible, or if u can stand/tolerate a person, love/hate them at the same time, but still have a nice functioning relationship, be it a friend or girlfriend/boyfriend, wife/husband.

Until then...remember, women are emotional/psychotic/schizophrenic creatures, they have to be treated a tad bit more delicate, but otherwise they should be treated no differently than say a friend. Gifts are nice, but never go far out of ur way. Never EVER give 100% of urself to anyone, and Never EVER lose sleep or stress about anyone but urself. YOU come before anyone else, aslong as ur not selfcentered, chicks will dig that. If any chick says that she's doesn't, well she's living outside of reality and wants u to drop everything to cater to her, well uh-uh not happening. sorry. Handle ur business, take care of urself, take care of her, and she'll take care of u. Sex, as much as it dominates our everything thought, takes a back hand to her happiness, in other words, if she ain't happy...ur not getting any. And if she's not happy cuase the sex sucks, then ur fucked and need to do something about it fast or someone else will or u'll be one miserable horny bastard. Never take any of ur close friend's/family's advice on UR relationships, u take from them what u can, and u do what u feel is right. If what u do ends up to be fucked, well, ur the only one to blame, but if everything ends up right, then congrats u got urself to where U wanted to be. When ever u have a fight, keep in mind the possiblity that u could be wrong, just as much as it's possible that u could be right. When she says she needs space, Fucking disappear and disappear fast, she'll come looking for u when she's done being a "woman", she'll return to reality and she'll hug u a little bit tighter, kiss u a little bit longer, and fuck u a little bit harder. And, finally, Always shower up and throw on some preapproved colonge before sex, chicks dig the nice smells and will associate the nice smell with those strange confusing warm feelings they have inside. They'll dig ya a little bit more whenever splash some of those good feeling's on urself.

That's all i can think of, for now...

Any relavent questions?

[whoisisthis]

too many words

[TheSolipsist]

too many words

I had a feeling it was to wordy, forgot wackbaggers have a short attentions span. sorry.

[Glenn Dandy]

I had a feeling it was to wordy, forgot wackbaggers have a short attentions span. sorry.


Wordy but damned good for a young feller.

I do run into problems with , I wouldnt say Jelousy but more trust.you say just bolt out when they flake,,, i have no probs there i just dont want them back. my mentality is wrong there. but its a shortcomming i guess in me.

i feel its not fair kinda because a girl can go get alot of cheat on in 24 hours.,,, so i think the worst when their gone and im like ewwww!

[d0uche_n0zzle]

If you fuck them right, they'll never stray and become hopelessly addicted to your cock.

[Kate]

If you fuck them right, they'll never stray and become hopelessly addicted to your cock.

The man makes a good point.

I'll be 25 in 2 months, and will be married 2 years later this month. The marriage is in shambles, but I think we have both grown a lot in our time together. Some one said earlier in the thread that it's possible for the chick to not be a bitch and the guy to not be an asshole and things still don't workout. I admit wholeheartedly that I am in a selfish phase, but I am not about to forget that his life also must go on whether or not I'm clouding it up. Things are basically on hold at the moment and we're still like best friends, there's just other areas that can't be ignored any longer. The only advice I could offer is to be true to yourself first, compromise is important and a requirement, but it has to suit both of you. If you don't know yourself then you can't make someone else happy.

[Glenn Dandy]

The man makes a good point.

I'll be 25 in 2 months, and will be married 2 years later this month. The marriage is in shambles, but I think we have both grown a lot in our time together. Some one said earlier in the thread that it's possible for the chick to not be a bitch and the guy to not be an asshole and things still don't workout. I admit wholeheartedly that I am in a selfish phase, but I am not about to forget that his life also must go on whether or not I'm clouding it up. Things are basically on hold at the moment and we're still like best friends, there's just other areas that can't be ignored any longer. The only advice I could offer is to be true to yourself first, compromise is important and a requirement, but it has to suit both of you. If you don't know yourself then you can't make someone else happy.Kate you didnt have to leave your husband i woulda kept it quiet,honey :icon_wink :action-sm

[Myhairygrundle]

The man makes a good point.

I'll be 25 in 2 months, and will be married 2 years later this month. The marriage is in shambles, but I think we have both grown a lot in our time together. Some one said earlier in the thread that it's possible for the chick to not be a bitch and the guy to not be an asshole and things still don't workout. I admit wholeheartedly that I am in a selfish phase, but I am not about to forget that his life also must go on whether or not I'm clouding it up. Things are basically on hold at the moment and we're still like best friends, there's just other areas that can't be ignored any longer. The only advice I could offer is to be true to yourself first, compromise is important and a requirement, but it has to suit both of you. If you don't know yourself then you can't make someone else happy.

Women go through something in their mid 20's. It's normal. No one should get married unitl they are 30 and have lived alone for at least 2 years.

I got married in my early 20's and that was dumb. Divorced after 2 years of fucking awful marriage. 7 years later, I know that I am more stable and will make a better partner for someone. All will be well.

[Kate]

hmmm, are you near Laredo?

[Myhairygrundle]

hmmm, are you near Laredo?


H-town, home of the New Orleans refugees.

[stokedaspossibl]

1)age. 20

2)relationship status. taken, id say

3)comment. well the truth is people always look for something better. not that what they have is not good enough, but they want to know whats out there. this sounds really "done before" but if there is a really, honestly, great connection then it will work. if not a great connection it will fail. if semi good connection, the search will continue. thats my 2 cents anyway.

[Chimpo]

Age: 33 (34 on 9/24)

Status: Single

Comment: My ex and I broke up just about a year ago to the day. Co-habitation issues didn't go over so well. Sorry, I like living alone. I like having a girlfriend and all, and weekend and weekday overnight stays are welcome of course, but this house is just too damned small for two people to live in everyday. Maybe once I sell this shithole and get a bigger place I might feel different, but 'til then, I'm quite comfortable living alone.

[Glenn Dandy]

I think you have like a 10to 15 % chance of actualy meeting someone that you comletly just fit with... All my friends are married.. Miserably i might add, They all say the same thing to my single ass when i visit... Dude i would trade you in a minute.

And " If it werent for the kids i would be out of here.

They all partied into their 30's and ending up marrying their at the time gf so they could have kids.

So i figure if in 30 years the majority had to settle.... thats pretty bad odds.

Bottomline they are all miserable.

I met a girl online about 5 /6 years ago shes married but we are perfect for each other. Si i guess my odds just went to 5%. considering that perfect girl is already taken, miserably i might add as well. Got married for the wrong reasons.

[tar_baby]

well of course there is the statistic that 50% of marriages fail....those are pretty shitty odds

are you a church going man?...ive always heard a great place to meet nice, good people is church...bars suck as far as meeting people and ive learned that by age 22h
i used to poo-poo the online thing and laugh at that but it seems online is one of the better places to meet nice people....though id personally never do it

[Glenn Dandy]

I joined the yahoo personals once, I keep meeting drunks or something screwed up about em at bars. So i figured mayby i could meet someone normal. guess what i went on about 5 dates..... bunch of drunks!

I got a few free meals though. all in all was interesting atleast. an only two of them stalked me.

[tar_baby]

ok...i just asked a girl out at ND here
she said yes...ill let u know how it goes...im kinda excited ya know?
the whoel butterflies thing