Anyone look into the mystery ape?

[dredpiratrobert]

It doesn't seem like this Bondo Ape is readily accepted by the scientific community, in spite of all the stuff that PhDs need to find on the Internet. It looks like it still part of Cryptozoology and not the fact that Rogan believed it is. I could be wrong if there is more info out there.

There seems to be an antelope called the sitatunga that spends much of its time in vegetated swamps and marshes. They can paddle, not really swim. They eat vegetation and fallen fruits, not fish. They are found mostly in Kenya, Tanzania, and Uganda, in the area of Lake Victoria.

I don't know about Rogan's view of the sped-up Evolutionary process in the Congo.

[Tricky Matt]

All I could find when I searched the Rogan-net was a couple of pictures of shit, a track, and two pictures of a chimp 1) with nothing for scale 2) with some afro-golfers, also not much of a good scale.

Rogan was really out of line with the PhD primatologist. First, she may actually have had soemting to say. Two, to imply that a persom with a science-based doctorate should consult the internet and popular television programs on science was completely innane.


It may exist, though.

[older gentleman]

http://karlammann.com/images/bondo/chimptrapphoto-500.jpg

From here (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://karlammann.com/images/bondo/chimptrapphoto-500.jpg&imgrefurl=http://karlammann.com/bondo/chimptrapphoto.html&h=400&w=297&sz=16&tbnid=nx_42ygEmq4J:&tbnh=120&tbnw=89&hl=en&start=2&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbondo%2Bape%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26 lr%3D%26c2coff%3D1%26sa%3DN)

[JOHNNY HAIRDO]

Anxiously awaiting the first racist joke.

[abudabit]

Well that settles it then.

[dredpiratrobert]

Scientists today marveled at the discovery the of Mystery Ape, noted for its wide nose, jumping ability, and seemingly incompatible six-figure job.

[JOHNNY HAIRDO]

Scientists today marveled at the discovery the of Mystery Ape, noted for its wide nose, jumping ability, and seemingly incompatible six-figure job.
Thank You.

[Tricky Matt]

There is already a photoshop of the chimp and the looter in the Photoshop Forum.

[judoGTI]

Can you find the mystery ape in this picture?

http://www.fotosearch.com/comp/csk/CSK225/KS13782.jpg

[Chuckyarla]

Can you find the mystery ape in this picture?

http://www.fotosearch.com/comp/csk/CSK225/KS13782.jpg
It's between the leg's of the female on the right.

[tar_baby]

i emailed the man who is known world-wide for primate studies here at ND (and yes....he is PhD)...which means nothing to Rogan mahhhn
ill post his response on Rogan's claim

[Devilock]

I see 6 foot tall chimps north of 150th street all the time here in NY...what's the big deal? Its not uncommon for them to drink mad dog or old english in mass quantities. In fact, they appear to be quite socail creatures. Some even demonstrate advanced motor skill and coordination. They can often be found congragating in large groups on street corners either pan handeling or distributing illeagal narcotics.

[Brady T cell]

http://frogstar.com/stern/old/images/wpe1.jpg

[fetusFARMER]

http://frogstar.com/stern/old/images/wpe1.jpg

hyahahahahahaha

[CrustyJizzRag]

http://frogstar.com/stern/old/images/wpe1.jpg
FUCKING HILARIOUS!!! :icon_mrgr :icon_bigg :clap:

[d0uche_n0zzle]

http://frogstar.com/stern/old/images/wpe1.jpg


Too bad all it does is cackle.

[Diceman Cometh]

Apparently Rogan was right....

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/04/0414_030314_strangeape.html

[gumhead]

Apparently Rogan was right....

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/04/0414_030314_strangeape.html
yup...

http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/science/08/08/coolsc.mysteryape/index.html

[Taso]

Im a little confused here, which one of the three is the bondo ape?

http://users.rcn.com/tasod/deadchimp-500.jpg

[whoisisthis]

lol


that dead monkey sure looks happy. must have something to do with having ginourmous balls :icon_eek:

[DeanofromBoston]

is that the one that gave the dead monkey hummer

[Tricky Matt]

Those dudes with Happy Giant Balls Ape are prob'ly about 4' 10"

[whoisisthis]

Happy Giant Balls Ape


better than "Bondo Ape', imo :clap:

[dredpiratrobert]

yup...

http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/science/08/08/coolsc.mysteryape/index.html

Rogan was right about their being stories, but those articles still say it is a mystery.

[tar_baby]

but he was giving those stories as fact and he wouldn't let a fuckin PhD talk...its not fact yet...im still awaiting the response from the anthropology department

i dont know...that just kinda got on my nerves

[Etherfiend]

the best video ever would be a few Bondo Apes taking out a Lion (like roagn said). i would pay to see that.

ever see the video of the tiger taking out a crocodile (alligator?)?

future sport: ANIMAL WARS

lion vs tiger
grizzly vs. polar bear
rhino vs. hippo
hamster vs. gerbil

[Diceman Cometh]

ever see the video of the tiger taking out a crocodile (alligator?)?




No, but you HAVE GOT TO put up a link for it.

lion vs tiger

Tiger

grizzly vs. polar bear

Polar Bear

rhino vs. hippo

Rhino

[the bondo ape]

Never argue with a stoner. I did get to look at Joe's "real scientific" site, and I still contend that this whole bondo ape thing is total bullshit. If Joe had bothered to read the whole "study" and hadn't gotten the munchies or fallen asleep in the middle, he would have read that most people think that they are just chimps- maybe a bit larger, but they are CHIMPS. I've spent a lot of time with apes, and I know the subtle differences between them. Too bad he didn't bring up the bonobos- real chimps that do live in the "Congo"- they spend all of their time having sex- hetero, homo, you name it. The females practice genito-genito rubbing. Now that's hot.

[Diceman Cometh]

Never argue with a stoner. I did get to look at Joe's "real scientific" site, and I still contend that this whole bondo ape thing is total bullshit. If Joe had bothered to read the whole "study" and hadn't gotten the munchies or fallen asleep in the middle, he would have read that most people think that they are just chimps- maybe a bit larger, but they are CHIMPS. I've spent a lot of time with apes, and I know the subtle differences between them. Too bad he didn't bring up the bonobos- real chimps that do live in the "Congo"- they spend all of their time having sex- hetero, homo, you name it. The females practice genito-genito rubbing. Now that's hot.

He DID say that they were chimps - several times. He just said that they are so large that, unlike normal-sized chimps that have to sleep in the trees to be safe, the Bondo chimp actually sleeps on the ground, like a gorilla, since they are so fucking large, nothing is really gonna fuck with them, even while sleeping.


Grizzly vs. Tiger...Who would win?

[Bubba Buddha]

Tiger Vs Croc (http://www.ejbdotcom.net/content/1762.html)

[the bondo ape]

I'll rephrase that- they are normal chimps. They are not some new species, and sometimes gorillas sleep in trees- it doesn't matter where they sleep. And chimps regularly walk bipedally. I didn't read anywhere in the article that they have killed lions- I don't know where Joe got that from. There are no lions in the forests that chimps inhabit.

[Diceman Cometh]

I'll rephrase that- they are normal chimps. They are not some new species, and sometimes gorillas sleep in trees- it doesn't matter where they sleep. And chimps regularly walk bipedally. I didn't read anywhere in the article that they have killed lions- I don't know where Joe got that from. There are no lions in the forests that chimps inhabit.

I think he said that the locals have apparently witnessed them killing lions.

[goldenbunz]

Im a little confused here, which one of the three is the bondo ape?



http://users.rcn.com/tasod/deadchimp-500.jpg


I don't see any chimp, I only see three black dudes.

[Diceman Cometh]

Tiger Vs Croc (http://www.ejbdotcom.net/content/1762.html)

Yea Bitch! Mammals all the way!

[OandA_Chris]

Tiger Vs Croc (http://www.ejbdotcom.net/content/1762.html)

the pussy camera man should have gotten closer

[CrazyMrPoopSex]

Scientists today marveled at the discovery the of Mystery Ape, noted for its wide nose, jumping ability, and seemingly incompatible six-figure job.
I hear they have more fast twitch muscule fiber.

[Tommy Ceez]

http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=10181

This video loads faster


Theres an ad in NYC (I believe for the current incarnation of Le Tigre clothes) with a shot of the Tiger sinking his teeth into the crocs neck.

[al885]

/waiting for black earl pic

[Marshmallow_Ass]

but he was giving those stories as fact and he wouldn't let a fuckin PhD talk...its not fact yet...im still awaiting the response from the anthropology department

i dont know...that just kinda got on my nerves

Yeah, and IF it's an undiscovered (til now) species, that's not proof of evolution happening before our very eyes.

...and IF it's a "group of giant chimpanzees that display gorilla-like behavior", that's not proof of evolution either.

It's just another fucking monkey.

I'd rather listen to someone with a PHD talk about it, than some entertainer that googled it. (i realize that the caller could have been full of crap too) ...but the shouting and interrupting was annoying.

[wakeboardfit]

he really did resort to elementary school argumenting. just making loud noises, screaming and not letting the other person talk. i like joe but that was damn annoying.

[turdfrgsn]

http://grapemumb.50megs.com/GGA.jpg

[dredpiratrobert]

The Calmo Ape

http://www.stressfactory.com/comics/oneal2.jpg

[Little Chuckie]

Im a little confused here, which one of the three is the bondo ape?

http://users.rcn.com/tasod/deadchimp-500.jpg


Now... if they ate the meat of the ape, wouldn't that be Cannibalism?

[Quinn]

It doesn't seem like this Bondo Ape is readily accepted by the scientific community, in spite of all the stuff that PhDs need to find on the Internet. It looks like it still part of Cryptozoology and not the fact that Rogan believed it is. I could be wrong if there is more info out there.

There seems to be an antelope called the sitatunga that spends much of its time in vegetated swamps and marshes. They can paddle, not really swim. They eat vegetation and fallen fruits, not fish. They are found mostly in Kenya, Tanzania, and Uganda, in the area of Lake Victoria.

I don't know about Rogan's view of the sped-up Evolutionary process in the Congo.

http://lava.nationalgeographic.com/pod/pictures/normal/NGM2003_09p64.jpg

Someone better tell this Sitatunga that he can't swim then. Don't want the lil' fucker to drown.

[tar_baby]

this was the response i got from the PhD Anthropology professor:

The Bondo/Billi chimp appears to be a fairly large (bodu size) chimp
population (not a new species, but maybe a subspecies). It is a very
interesting little known population, but aside from that there are no data
to suggest that they are especially distinct (aside from being pretty
large). I have no idea why someone would flip out over it, but who knows.

[ORGAZMOE]

Here are the results from the DNA testing they did:

"Recently, genetic testing was completed on these animals, and the results were shocking. They weren't a new species, subspecies, or even hybrids, they genetically almost identical to normal chimpanzees.

It turns out that this animal is not a cryptid at all. It is somewhat disappointing, but at least the mystery has been solved. It is fascinating how one band of chimpanzees has become so oversized and developed a new culture with minimal genetic change..."

http://www.geocities.com/capedrevenger/ape.html (http://www.geocities.com/capedrevenger/ape.html)

So they're basically just chimpanzees. Big fucking deal. :clap:

As far as the "killing lions" thing, apparently there's no evidence to support the claim, only rumors translated from villagers who were thought to be exaggerating for the sake of storytelling.

[RocketScientist]

Yeah, and IF it's an undiscovered (til now) species, that's not proof of evolution happening before our very eyes.

...and IF it's a "group of giant chimpanzees that display gorilla-like behavior", that's not proof of evolution either.

It's just another fucking monkey.

I'd rather listen to someone with a PHD talk about it, than some entertainer that googled it. (i realize that the caller could have been full of crap too) ...but the shouting and interrupting was annoying.

He reminded me of Tom Cruise to a certain extent...dunno why that could be...

[zorro6204]

New animals are discovered all the time, and even if this animal is new to sicence, that would hardly be shocking. Interesting, if you're into such things, but not earthshaking.

So . . . what exactly was the point of all the controversy on the show? I don't see what it's got to do with evolution. So there's a new ape. Big fucking deal, put another one on the list.


PS: I gotta admit, Robin has nice bit titties, is there a picture of them anywhere without the industrial strength bra? Of course, I actually like industrial strength bras, something about the contrast between the flesh and the fabric . . . shit, I sound like Norton.

[invisible76]

Tiger Vs Croc (http://www.ejbdotcom.net/content/1762.html)

HOLY SHIT! You ever see a fuckin croc come apart like that?

As for the bondo ape, it said in the article that the locals call them lion killers not that the locals had ever actually SEEN them kill lions.

As a scientist (with a PhD) I think rogan was really representative of the typical average american citizen. He read an article and believed it, even though the science in the article is incomplete. Not being a primatologist, rogan (or 99.999% of the population) can't really judge wether or not the arguments presented in the article (a) hold water or (b) even make sense in the context of what is already known.

[NoFilterPaul]

FOUND HIM!!!

http://images5.theimagehosting.com/shwoogie.jpg

[Blackvoice]

the guy was hi what do you expect?

[CurseoftheBambino]

paul you're a shitdick LOL!

[NoFilterPaul]

paul you're a shitdick LOL!

Just like every nig on a 5 stretch or better...

[CurseoftheBambino]

lol is gonna call ganster fag to **** paul lol..

[NoFilterPaul]

lol is gonna call ganster fag to **** paul lol..

I am sure you have that number in your negro-dex...

[whoisisthis]

Tiger Vs Croc (http://www.ejbdotcom.net/content/1762.html)

octopus vs. shark

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/octopus/media_players_blue/shark_hi.html

[TexasPest]

I'm sure the pics don't do it justice, but it just doesn't look too scary slumped over in a corner, deader than a doornail. Maybe if they had a picture of one doin' some softshoe or driving some old bitch around town, complaining that it needed to make water...

[tar_baby]

long story short.....rogan was full of shit

evidence proves this isn't a "new species mahhhhhn"
and you can't watch evolution happen mahhhhhn

[dredpiratrobert]

http://lava.nationalgeographic.com/pod/pictures/normal/NGM2003_09p64.jpg

Someone better tell this Sitatunga that he can't swim then. Don't want the lil' fucker to drown.

Looks like he's paddling, like a dog.

[RocketScientist]

Looks like he's paddling, like a dog.

Semantics. Paddling like a dog is STILL swimming. It's just slower.

[dredpiratrobert]

Semantics. Paddling like a dog is STILL swimming. It's just slower.

Fine, I'll give you that, but it's not some product of accelerated evolution. HOw deep is the water in that picture anyway? It's a swamp animal, and it's not always swimming even when it's in the water. Didn't Rogan say it ate fish? That's not true, and the sitatunga doesn't live in the Congo, according to the info I found.

[RocketScientist]

Fine, I'll give you that, but it's not some product of accelerated evolution. HOw deep is the water in that picture anyway? It's a swamp animal, and it's not always swimming even when it's in the water. Didn't Rogan say it ate fish? That's not true, and the sitatunga doesn't live in the Congo, according to the info I found.


Oh, I ain't arguing with ya, just pointing out that doggy paddling is still swimming. Rogain(pun) came off like a doped up version of Tom Cruise, thought he knew it all (hoo hoo hoo) and was just plain ol wrong. Facts are facts, and they aren't on Rogain's side. I just wish somebody on the show would actually point out he was wrong, versus kiss his ass.

[dredpiratrobert]

Oh, I ain't arguing with ya, just pointing out that doggy paddling is still swimming. Rogain(pun) came off like a doped up version of Tom Cruise, thought he knew it all (hoo hoo hoo) and was just plain ol wrong. Facts are facts, and they aren't on Rogain's side. I just wish somebody on the show would actually point out he was wrong, versus kiss his ass.

Actually you should argue with me. Because it does look like the sitatunga can swim and dive and stay submerged for long periods. I think he was wrong on the other counts though. It eats vegetation.

[RobeSoup&Tears]

I’m not calling Shenanigans but aren’t Apes and Chimps semantically different species. If so then why call the Giant Chimp a Bondo Ape?

[Quinn]

Fine, I'll give you that, but it's not some product of accelerated evolution. HOw deep is the water in that picture anyway? It's a swamp animal, and it's not always swimming even when it's in the water. Didn't Rogan say it ate fish? That's not true, and the sitatunga doesn't live in the Congo, according to the info I found.

So you won't see him swimming in the olympics for Congo, fine. But that my friend is swimming. Is it a breast stroke? No. but if you're not touching the bottom and "walking" it's technically "swimming".

[the bondo ape]

Chimps are apes, as are gorillas, gibbons, orangutans, and humans. They aren't monkeys.

[RocketScientist]

Actually you should argue with me. Because it does look like the sitatunga can swim and dive and stay submerged for long periods. I think he was wrong on the other counts though. It eats vegetation.

Can't argue that which I havent bothered to fuck with. In the long run, it's very unimportant. I learned enough to find out that Rogan was a moron pothead, and left it at that. No need to beat a dead horse, unless you're that guy who has a sig pic with his finger up a cows nose...I think he gets off on beating up dead animals... I could be wrong, but I'm just sayin'.

[tar_baby]

Chimps are apes, as are gorillas, gibbons, orangutans, and humans. They aren't monkeys.
haha..a bondo ape screen name...that was fast

[robertkeys]

yeah i have been wondering what happened to manute bol...

nothing?

[BOUGHTONII]

Chimps are apes, as are gorillas, gibbons, orangutans, and humans. They aren't monkeys.

den waz a black folk

[Freebird]

Wow i wish i would have known about this internet thing before i spent all my money on college...apparently a phd and the science community doesnt mean shit against a stoner and the discovery channel :icon_redf

[invisible76]

Wow i wish i would have known about this internet thing before i spent all my money on college...apparently a phd and the science community doesnt mean shit against a stoner and the discovery channel :icon_redf

Welcome to America. You can pick up your SUV and your ignorance at the window on the left.

Do you have any idea how frustrating it is for scientists, engineers, doctors, etc to try to explain something to John Q. Public? They obviously know it all because they "saw a story on the local news..."

[jhaxsterbator]

That's no ape, its just a starting lineman for the New York Jets.