Smallville

[JoeyDVDZ]

Anyone here a Smallville freak? Tonights 5th season opener absolutely ROCKED! And for those Angel/Buffy fans, James Marsters, AKA Spike, begins a recurring role as Brainiac on tonights episode. Can't WAIT to see what happens.

[Jables2002]

Anyone here a Smallville freak? Tonights 5th season opener absolutely ROCKED! And for those Angel/Buffy fans, James Marsters, AKA Spike, begins a recurring role as Brainiac on tonights episode. Can't WAIT to see what happens.

Was that the guy at the end of the episode?

Overall I thought the episode was pretty good, but I don't know how long they will go until they give Clark his powers back. Probably by the middle of the next episode.

[JoeyDVDZ]

Yeah, I read it on tv.com . He's starting a recurring role as a new professor at Clarks college, and I guess eventually he's going to show himself to be Brainiac. I can't wait to see how this all plays out.

[crescentwrench]

Yeah, I'm hooked again. The fight at the end with the Kryptonians was kind of shitty, it took all of 30 seconds? That had the potential for a great superfight. But it was cool to see them calling back to the electric hula hoops and the mirror cage to the phantom zone.

I predict that sometime this season we will hear the line, "Come, son of Jor-El, kneel before Zod!"

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

was anyone else reminded of Non and Ursa, Zod's henchmen from Superman II? who knows, the Kryptonians were actually them, and may be back when Zod finally shows his face. i love how they're paying homage to the movies with the Fortress of Solitude, the Phantom Zone, and involving Zod.

yeah, it won't be long before Clark gets his powers back (they always gotta keep taking them away, don't they?). in the TV spots i've seen, Lex hits Clark and he starts to bleed, so i'm guessing that'll happen in the next episode. but now that they're really getting to the meat of Superman's origin, in the words of our good buddy J.R., "Business is gonna start picking up."

[LiddyRules]

I like Lex, I still find him strangely sympathetic. I hope they dont' just *snap* make him evil even though it's clear they will.

And that was the funniest fight I've ever seen between Clark and the Zodites. It was all so simple.

And count me one as glad Chloe knows.

[Jimbo Jones]

I don't think you will see Zod yet. He is allready Superman when zod arrives. I also think Clark won't get his powers back at least until he gets to fuck Lana. Once Clark gets laid, then he will get his powers back. Did you guys also notice when they first showed the fortrise of solitude, they played the movie theme song.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

yeah, they've been subtly using the music from the Superman films here and there since about the third season. they could still introduce Zod this season, even if Clark doesn't become Superman by season's end. they're not following the movie continuity, only lacing the show with references from the movies. i imagine now that Clark is getting closer and closer to becoming Supes, we'll see more and more subtle details we recognize from the films.

[Sac Town CJ]

Its going to be a great season. I just hope they don't have filler episodes like they did last season. The one with Clarks dog and a few other pointless episodes from last season was stupid. I have a feeling next week will be pointless, then the following week it will get interesting.

[Jables2002]

So who is the guy that appeared at the end of the episode?

[crescentwrench]

That was Spike. He helped Angel save the world from the Black Thorn and now he's in Kansas.

Not really, he's Braniac, the main baddie of the season. I'm glad they have a recurring villian instead of the Kryptonite Mutant Du Jour.

[JavaLogBoy]

I've dowloaded ever episode. Lex is great

[Warfarer]

Last nights episode was better than the season premiere to me. Not sure how long they will keep his powers from him but it looks like he will get them back next week. Maybe with the power of flight this time around though?

[kloraferm]

I was a fan when it started, but lost track after a while. Now I just know that the blonde girl who went into a house that blew up is still alive, knows Clark is Superman (to be...) and he doesn't like Lex Luthor anymore

[ZeoVGM]

Last nights episode was better than the season premiere to me. Not sure how long they will keep his powers from him but it looks like he will get them back next week. Maybe with the power of flight this time around though?

Yeah, last week's episode was awesome.

But no, he won't get the power of flight. The next power he gets will be ice breath I think. I think Superman has that ability at least.

But the producers/writers said Clark will never fly on the show.

[crescentwrench]

I didn't like it as well. I know I'm watching a show about a kid who can pick up tractors but even I was pulled right out of the story when that now powerless kid and his sassy friend broke into a top secret lab with only a laptop computer. He needs powers back stat, or it's going to be Dawson's Creek 2.

[LiddyRules]

Going to be? We've had four seasons of Clark and Lana staring wistfully at one another while bemoaning the fact they can't have one another despite each having different relationships (Lana more than anyone else) and having the most boring conversations in the history of television. This show is Dawson 2.

Alicia was far hotter than Lana. And I'd rather fuck Chloe without question. She at least seems like she'd enjoy intercourse.

[Jables2002]

I was a fan when it started, but lost track after a while. Now I just know that the blonde girl who went into a house that blew up is still alive, knows Clark is Superman (to be...) and he doesn't like Lex Luthor anymore
Also, after that last episode, he now has the power to ignore Lana and never return any of her phone calls.

BOOYAH!

[crescentwrench]

[QUOTE=LiddyRules] This show is Dawson 2. QUOTE]

Shut up! I have to keep a shred of masculinity by constantly telling myself that this is based on a comic book and Daws..er, Clark can shoot heat beams out of his eyes! Katie Holmes was never kidnapped by an electrical man!

[Jables2002]

So what did everyone think of this week's episode?

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

at least Clark got his powers back, they always find some way of making him lose his powers. and as far as who is gonna die in exchange for Clark getting his powers back, i'm going with Clark's father. they have been doing little homages to the Superman films, and Clark's dad died in the movie. plus, he's been having heart problems since like the third season. if anyone's dying this season, it's him.

[Jables2002]

So does that mean he will be moving to Metropolis at the end of the season?

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

well there's a lot of talk that this might be the last season, so maybe.

[patbattlefield]

well there's a lot of talk that this might be the last season, so maybe.

does that mean new show or are they going to abandon it?

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

well they'll probably give the show a decent send-off, like finally seeing Clark in the Superman suit and flying around Metropolis or something. but i doubt there will be any spin-offs or a "Metropolis" series or anything like that. they'll probably end Smallville and "that's all, folks" so they can movie on to another sappy teen drama.

hey, my 1,000th post! phenominal!

[JavaLogBoy]

But the producers/writers said Clark will never fly on the show.
Well It sure looked like flying when he went for that missle. The writers said clark wouldn't fly when they first introduced the show I don't think they knew the show was going to last 5 seasons. Sooner or Later they are going to run out of ideas.

[crescentwrench]

He didn't fly, that was a really high jump. He did fly in last season's opener, but he was possessed, so technically Clark didn't fly. Or was that 2 years ago?

[Jables2002]

He didn't fly, that was a really high jump. He did fly in last season's opener, but he was possessed, so technically Clark didn't fly. Or was that 2 years ago?

"He can leap tall buildings in a single bound!"

[crescentwrench]

Junior Lifeguard Association - JLA

*rimshot*

[Warfarer]

Good god. how hot is erica durance in those bikinis tonight?

[Jables2002]

Only good thing about last night's episode:
http://www.egotastic.com/media/pictures/0510/erica-durance-smallville-504-hdtv-14.jpg

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

yeah, last night's episode sucked. aside from erica durance in a bikini, it wasn't worth watching. and who the hell did they get to play Aquaman, Dolph Lungdren's son? the guy can't act for shit.

[Jables2002]

Apparently he is a model turned "actor".

[LiddyRules]

Apparently he is a model turned "actor". Actually he was an American Idol contestant wannabe turned actor. And says "bro" a lot.

That being said, it sucks Lex is full on villian now and I still want to fuck Chloe Sullivan. Though Lois did look a lot nicer than usual tonight.

[armymad]

i wonder who the next super friend the going to get on the show,

i wonder when there are going to bring mr wanye to smallive to meet lex,

or when the going to bring the next wonder woman

[crescentwrench]

The wife just watched that ep again and caught this tidbit.

When Aquaman's tied up Lex asks him if he had any friends helping him. He said, "No, I don't have an entourage". Get it? Entourage?

[Jables2002]

I love the writers of Smallville. Sometimes they fumble... but they really know how to redeem themselves:

http://www.kryptonsite.com/exposed-4.jpg

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

indeed. erica durance in a bikini = good. erica durance stripping = more gooder.

[ZeoVGM]

Erica Durance <33

It couldn't be more obvious that she's had implants though, after her topless scene in House of the Dead.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

yeah, she definitely had some work done, but i think they look better now. she didn't make them outlandishly bigger than they were, so it isn't completely obvious.

[Jables2002]

Here are the rest:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b350/JackBrack/exposed-5.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b350/JackBrack/exposed-3.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b350/JackBrack/exposed-1.jpg

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

you gotta hand it to the writers. sometimes they don't write the best episodes, but they sure know how to exploit their female stars. :icon_mrgr

[crescentwrench]

New ep.

Buffy Saunders? Oh man. There's allusion number one.

[armymad]

saw tonight epoisde and the new trailer for the new superman movie

[Jables2002]

I had to change my shorts after I saw that trailer :)

[crescentwrench]

What motherfuckers they are. They reveal Brainiac to be the bad guy and five minutes later he's gone? Fuck them in the ass with a broomstick. That's horseshit.

The only way they can redeem themselves is if Zod shows up.

[Warfarer]

zod is bound to come in for the season ender. This will leave them the ability to use him all next season if they get the nod for another season. With the way this year is going for shows, it probably will get canned.

If they do can it this year, that would mean that 6 days a week would have nothing worth watching on it.

RIP Arrested Development...

[crescentwrench]

***SPOILERS you west coasters****







Well lookie there, ol' Pa was the one to eat it. Surprising noone. I was thinking, "You know, it's not Lana. She's still around in the comics". But then again so is Jonathon.

[Warfarer]

Not sure how they dumped off Jonathon since he has always been in the comics. I really thought that lil Chloe was going to be the one to eat since she isn't in the comics.

[LiddyRules]

I wish it was Lana. I hate that selfish cunt. Glad it's not Chloe.

[JoeyDVDZ]

I had figured it would be Chloe, and that would have been sad, she's so friggin hot.... but I guess JK made sense, he does die during Clark's college years in the original comic book mythos. He was supposed to die working his fields though, so that was different. I guess it made for better drama.

[patbattlefield]

who is senator now that Kent is dead? and is Jorel still controlling Lionel?

[LiddyRules]

who is senator now that Kent is dead? I think it goes to Martha ala Sonny Bono.
and is Jorel still controlling Lionel? *shrugs* I don't think anyone knows but Lionel (whomever is in control) is awesome.

And I agree Joey, Chloe is hot.

[silentbob8201]

I had figured it would be Chloe, and that would have been sad, she's so friggin hot.... but I guess JK made sense, he does die during Clark's college years in the original comic book mythos. He was supposed to die working his fields though, so that was different. I guess it made for better drama.
well in Pre Crisis DC Universe yes but now Jonathan Kent is still alive as is his old cunt wife are still alive and out lived their adoptive son basically before they brought him back the next year

[ChimneyFish]

And I agree Joey, Chloe is hot.



Chloe is so fuckable.
As Anthony would put it, she looks like a real goer.

[JoeyDVDZ]

I remember years ago, Allison Mack used to be on all those goofy little kid tv shows (I have nieces & nephews, perverts, I don't watch them myself!) and I always thought "that chick is gonna grow up good some day"... glad to see I was right!

[ChimneyFish]

I remember years ago, Allison Mack used to be on all those goofy little kid tv shows (I have nieces & nephews, perverts, I don't watch them myself!) and I always thought "that chick is gonna grow up good some day"... glad to see I was right!


That's wierd. I didn't place the name and face with those kids shows.
But now that you've brought it up, I totally remember those shows.

[Ovaherenow]

nothing beats kristen kreuk....i beat off every time i see her...

[LiddyRules]

With Chloe you know she'd like it, she'd be good at it, and she'd have fun with it. Lana would just be a cold fish. Chloe would probably be a lot better to hang out with. And those tits!

[JoeyDVDZ]

I'm in complete agreement with Liddy. Also, Erica Durance is a hottie who looks like she knows how to party hard!

[ChimneyFish]

With Chloe you know she'd like it, she'd be good at it, and she'd have fun with it. Lana would just be a cold fish.


Exactly.
Hot monkey lovin.:icon_cool

[MISchwoogie]

Both Chloe and Lois are way hotter than Lana, and I bet they'd both be more fun.

[ChimneyFish]

How far into the season are we????(when did the season start????)
I didn't watch last season at all. (I got hypnotized by Lost)
I've been watching since the Aquaman episode.
I'm definetly back into it.


Micheal Rosenbaum deserves a fucking Emmy.

[JoeyDVDZ]

Hell yeah. Double team those two go-ers! Lana is very hot, but you can tell she's a stiff fuck.

[JoeyDVDZ]

I think they're up to episode 12 of season 5 now.

[MISchwoogie]

How far into the season are we????(when did the season start????)
I didn't watch last season at all. (I got hypnotized by Lost)
I've been watching since the Aquaman episode.
I'm definetly back into it.


Micheal Rosenbaum deserves a fucking Emmy.


Rosenbaum's the man. He makes this series.

[JoeyDVDZ]

I sometimes think I perfer storylines that deal with Lex over Clark lately. He's becoming quite the badass evil dude lately.

[LiddyRules]

I've always liked Lex over Clark. His character has always been so complex, borderline psychotic and interesting to watch. I also feel bad for him with the amount of times he get his ass kicked or gets trumped by his father or Clark and he is just mercilessly beaten every step of the way. I just hate that they've made him fall for Lana like every other friggin man on the entire friggin show. He's above someone needy and whiny like her.

Lionel is awesome on the show too. Such a sarcastic, evil hardass. The Lex/Lionel scenes are almost always among the best things of each episode.

[ChimneyFish]

I think they're up to episode 12 of season 5 now.


Man. I've got a lot of catching up to do before next season.




Lionel is awesome on the show too. Such a sarcastic, evil hardass. The Lex/Lionel scenes are almost always among the best things of each episode.


Totally agreed. When I saw the first few episodes of season one, Lex was the main reason I kept watching.

[JoeyDVDZ]

No, I LOVE the fact that Lex fell for Lana. That's just one more disappointment that's going to fester in his soul and turn him into the twisted bastard we all know and love.

[LiddyRules]

But I want Lex to turn evil for his own reasons, reasons of his own choosing, smarter reasons, reasons that let us see through his eyes, greater glory, that sort of thing. Not that, out of NOWHERE, he fell for this superfluous whore. I had higher hopes for when/why he'd turn bad. Scorned Lover wasn't one of them.

[ChimneyFish]

No, I LOVE the fact that Lex fell for Lana. That's just one more disappointment that's going to fester in his soul and turn him into the twisted bastard we all know and love.

Agreed. Love the Lex.


I take it I missed the Flash(no pun intended), I wonder if they'll bring in the Green Lantern, Wonder Woman(wow, that episode would suck), Batman or any one else from the "J.L.A.".

[LiddyRules]

Agreed. Love the Lex.


I take it I missed the Flash(no pun intended), I wonder if they'll bring in the Green Lantern, Wonder Woman(wow, that episode would suck), Batman or any one else from the "J.L.A.".

They brought in Aquaman. Or, as I call him "The Jock Who Likes Locker Room Time A Bit Too Much."

[JoeyDVDZ]

But I want Lex to turn evil for his own reasons, reasons of his own choosing, smarter reasons, reasons that let us see through his eyes, greater glory, that sort of thing. Not that, out of NOWHERE, he fell for this superfluous whore. I had higher hopes for when/why he'd turn bad. Scorned Lover wasn't one of them.

I see it as one of many occurrences that push Lex over the edge. One more betrayal, real or otherwise. Lex can only take so much rejection before he finally shuns all friendship and love, and becomes the bitter megalomaniac he eventually becomes.

[ChimneyFish]

They brought in Aquaman. Or, as I call him "The Jock Who Likes Locker Room Time A Bit Too Much."


Are they really making a show out of that????


My radio psychic tells me it will be a train wreck.

[ChimneyFish]

I see it as one of many occurrences that push Lex over the edge. One more betrayal, real or otherwise. Lex can only take so much rejection before he finally shuns all friendship and love, and becomes the bitter megalomaniac he eventually becomes.


I hope they start using the best actor on the show, and get into his truly evil side.

[LiddyRules]

Are they really making a show out of that????


My radio psychic tells me it will be a train wreck. Indeed but it's a new Aquateen and possibly a new origin. I found the sides for the main characters somewhere, one word, ouch, i'll be back if i can find them.

[JoeyDVDZ]

Are they really making a show out of that????


My radio psychic tells me it will be a train wreck.

You know, it's funny you said that. My cousin and I were watching that episode the other day, and he commented to me that the ep looked like a spinoff ep, something that WB can hold back until Smallville finally runs it's course. I wonder, maybe they're thinking just that.

[Ovaherenow]

lana could be a cold fish....she honestly wouldn't have to be conscious...

[JoeyDVDZ]

Frankly, she wouldn't have to be alive, but given a choice I'll take two party hotties over one ice queen any day.

[ChimneyFish]

You know, it's funny you said that. My cousin and I were watching that episode the other day, and he commented to me that the ep looked like a spinoff ep, something that WB can hold back until Smallville finally runs it's course. I wonder, maybe they're thinking just that.


That could be it. The whole "Atlantis" thing could be fairly interesting, but I don't think that guy can carry a show. They better have a great cast around him.


I think Liddy posted an article about the show in one of the Ron & Fez listening threads.

[LiddyRules]

Here are the characters. Some of them sound kind of familiar. Some of them are so ludicrously bad (see the first one). They did cast a new guy as Aquateen though.

[RACHEL STARLING - SERIES REGULAR] 18-24 years old. Rachel is a natural beauty with a radiant face and the perfectly toned body of an athlete. She has a sharp mind and a killer sense of humor. But if you look beyond her warm smile, you'll find something haunted about her. A drowning accident as a teenager has scarred her. While enjoying a "Semester at Sea", the boat capsized and she was stuck below deck. Although she blacked out, that last thing she remembers is being pulled free by a mysterious young boy wearing a seahorse necklace. Rachel comes from a well-heeled New York family. Her father was a successful newspaper editor but he died when she was 14. She took his death very hard and decided to embark on the "Semester at Sea" as a way of getting over her grief. Her relationship with her mother, an award winning Broadway playwright, has remained strained. Her mother is an ultra liberal and doesn't approve of her joining the military. When she was selected to train at the Liberty Key West Naval Air Station, she achieved her dream of becoming a Top Gun, but she also has to face the fear of returning to the same area as her boating accident. Although there is a mutual attraction between Rachel and A.C., their relationship is complicated by the fact that Rachel is secretly engaged to another naval trainee, JESSE HICKS. Rachel finds herself torn between the safety and security that Jesse offers and the danger and mystery that seem to define A.C.

[JESSE HICKS - SERIES REGULAR] 18-24 years old. He's an incredibly good-looking, Top Gun hot shot. Jesse grew up in suburban Texas and was a high school football star. His father is a decorated three star General who is currently serving in Iraq. Jesse never considered any other career; he always knew he was destined to fight for his country. He fell in love with Rachel the very first time he saw her. Defying the rules, they embarked on a passionate affair. Jesse proposed a few weeks before the pilot episode and Rachel accepted his offer. They have to keep their relationship secret or face possible expulsion from the Top Gun program. Highly ambitious and competitive, Jesse is the kind of guy who wins at any cost. He is also reckless and sometimes dangerously aggressive.

[EVA TORRES - SERIES REGULAR] 18-24 years old. A fiery Cuban beauty. Eva hasn't exactly had an easy life. When she was six she fled Cuba with her family on a raft, which sank a hundred miles off the Florida coast in a devastating storm. She was the sole survivor. Although she was rescued she has struggled to make a life for herself in America and was bounced from foster family to foster family. It was only when she finally turned 18 that she finally felt free. She came down to the Keys for a short break and never left. She manages a local dive shop, "The Old Man and The Sea" and counts A.C. as one of her best friends. Although they are from wildly different backgrounds they both felt an instant connection.Independent, sarcastic, strong-willed, Eva isn't afraid to express her opinion, even when no one's asking for it.

[MCCAFFERY - SERIES REGULAR] Star Name preferred. It's difficult to say how old McCaffery is. If you were to look at him, you'd probably guess 60ish. But you'd be way off. That's because McCaffery is from Atlantis. Since coming to the surface world, McCaffery has led a largely reclusive life as the lighthouse keeper at Atlas Point. He has watched A.C. grow up from afar, but always knew that one day their lives would intersect. This encounter leads to a long lasting friendship. McCaffery takes A.C. under his wing and explains not only his true origin but also his destiny. He is Obi Wan to A.C.'s Luke Skywalker. He is the voice of wisdom and experience who acts as a guide and mentor to the often hotheaded A.C. McCaffery is always bailing A.C. out of trouble and is someone A.C. can turn to when it comes to all things nautical. Having grown up underwater, McCaffery knows all the myths and legends of the ocean. He's also familiar with the creatures, both known and unknown to man, that inhabit the ocean's dark waters. Highly intelligent and fiercely loyal, McCaffery possesses an acerbic wit and doesn't suffer fools lightly.

[TOM CURRY - SERIES REGULAR] Late 30s to early 40s, A.C.'s stepfather. He was born and raised in Chicago but fell in love with Keys while he was a student at the University of Miami. He was an outstanding athlete and was a member of the gold medal winning US Water Polo team at the 1984 Los Angeles Olympics. He joined the Coast Guard in 1986 and has made a good career out of it, rising to the rank of Captain. While he was still a rookie Coast Guard his life took a dramatic turn. While out on a routine night patrol he came across three people bobbing in shark-infested waters -- a woman, a baby and an old man. There was no sign of a boat or plane and the water was mirror still. When he got them back to land he discovered they had no ID and nowhere to go. Taking pity on them, Tom took them home. Tom quickly became enchanted with the beautiful woman, ATLANNA, and her baby son ORIN. Within a year Tom and Atlanna were married and Tom adopted her baby son as his own. They renamed the boy ARTHUR. The old man, McCAFFERY, took a job as the Atlas Point Lighthouse keeper, a position he still holds to this day. As Arthur grew up, Atlanna made Tom promise not to tell him about her connection to McCaffery. He reluctantly agreed.

[ChimneyFish]

There's some interesting suff there, but like I said, that surrounding cast had better be damn good.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

i dunno about this Aquateen show they're throwing together. i'd much rather see a Batman live-action series someday, maybe a Year One-type show on HBO. it's a wonder to me why they wouldn't try it, it's only been about 40 years since Adam West ran around in a cape and cowl on TV.

[TheFlash]

They shoulda killed off Lana Lang in that 100th episode instead of Jonathan Kent. Was a total swerve when she got slammed into by the truck but its a cop out that they just killed off the daddy and made his relationship with her fall apart.

The damn show doesn't really follow the comics (but how could they? 70% of supes comics don't make any sense) so they should have kept going further with the series specific change-ups. They already fucked up the Flash and Aquaman (well he always sucked as a hero) so they might as well killed the bitch off and made him get a push towards Lois Lane.

Anyone else feel like they essentially wrote the Lana Lang character into a deep hole? She's essentially useless now and after 100 episodes the only thing that keeps me still interested in the character is the fact that Kristin Kreuk is a hot piece of danish/asian ass.

[Warfarer]

Did anyone else see sharks swimming the alleys as the Angel jumped up a building? This show is going downhill fast these days. I wonder if smallville will make it to another season.

[LiddyRules]

Everything makes it seem like they'll be a Season 6 of Smallville.

To be fair, Season 5 is one of the best seasons of the show. Season 4 was one of the worst seasons any show has ever had.

[FMDoug]

I agree, this season is very good. It reminds be of the first two. I believe 3-5 were just awful. My only problem with this season, and with the show altogether, is that nothing good ever happens to clark. and if something good does happen then it is immediately followed by something devistating. They teased Lana and Clark for so many seasons, and when it does happen it lasts a few weeks. And all the damn Lional Luther turns. Pick one. Good? Bad? I don't care. Just stick to one for a week, or even an episode. I do like the slow Lex progression to evil though. just my two cents.

[LiddyRules]

Nothing good happens to Clark?! At least people like him. Lex is always the one shit happens to, betrayed on every side, having his security kidnapped every episode. Clark's lost his father I mean it sucks but for the most part he always comes out ahead. Oh and he lost his whiny high maintenance girlfriend, bfd. I wanted Clana to end, I hate the time they spend focusing on "I Love Lana" for no real reason. I hate how they show Lana as being so perfect and good and everyone desires her. That she's the most wonderful of all God's creatures.

Lionel- I'm not sure. I don't even know if he's still possessed by Jor-El. I still find him entertaining.

[ChimneyFish]

That episode was the Howard Stern of episodes.

I was never big into the comics growing up, was "the Angel" a character from them????

[LiddyRules]

Nope, an "original" character.

[patbattlefield]

u have a feeling they are going to kill lionel off soon and i still think jorel is controlling him.

[ChimneyFish]

Nope, an "original" character.


That's what I figured.


What did you guys think of last night????

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

i could take or leave the last ep with the Angel and whatnot. loved the little touches of Clark reminiscing about his father, but the Angel just seemed lame. this season has had it's high points like The Fortress of Solitude, Zod and his disciples, all the little nods to the movies, seeing Erica Durance in a soaking wet bikini, and its low points like Aquateen and the vampire sorority episode (which was such a clear homage to Buffy and Angel it just wasn't even fun, especially since some of the Buffy/Angel writers now write for Smallvile), but it's by far better than last season with that stupid "Lana's a witch" subplot.

and can't James Marsters do at least one show that doesn't somehow involve vampires and chicks named Buffy? i'm starting to feel bad for the guy.

[OANerd]

I agree 100%... The story line has had hints that Lois has interest in Clark.. Even Martha mentioned in one episode that Lana wouldn't be the only true love in his life. Lana (while very hot, and the reason I started watching anyways) doesn't make or break any episode... she's usually on the edge of death anyway where Clark has to rescue her... very repetative over the last season.


Anyone notice how they make Chloe where push up bras to give her massive cleavage?


They shoulda killed off Lana Lang in that 100th episode instead of Jonathan Kent. Was a total swerve when she got slammed into by the truck but its a cop out that they just killed off the daddy and made his relationship with her fall apart.

The damn show doesn't really follow the comics (but how could they? 70% of supes comics don't make any sense) so they should have kept going further with the series specific change-ups. They already fucked up the Flash and Aquaman (well he always sucked as a hero) so they might as well killed the bitch off and made him get a push towards Lois Lane.

Anyone else feel like they essentially wrote the Lana Lang character into a deep hole? She's essentially useless now and after 100 episodes the only thing that keeps me still interested in the character is the fact that Kristin Kreuk is a hot piece of danish/asian ass.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

Anyone notice how they make Chloe where push up bras to give her massive cleavage?

yeah, they've really been trying to make her look more mature and "sexy her up" now that she's outta high school and working at the Daily Planet. good thing too, she ain't that hard on the eyes after all.

[JoeyDVDZ]

Chloe is my girl... I love the slightly snaggle toothed smile she flashes. Very sexy.

[LiddyRules]

Chloe is in the top 3 actors on the show as far as talent goes, the other two being Lex and Lionel. I like watching her and she has a screen presence; Lana is just whiny and bitchy all the time.

Anyone notice how they make Chloe where push up bras to give her massive cleavage? No, I'm blind.

[OANerd]

Chloe's no joke... 23 yrs old... working since she was 7.

Allison Mack on IMDB.com (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0532928/)

Too bad she's never done any work like Erica Durance - House of the Dead movie - 2003

That girls got some great hooters.

[patbattlefield]

Chloe's no joke... 23 yrs old... working since she was 7.

Allison Mack on IMDB.com (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0532928/)

Too bad she's never done any work like Erica Durance - House of the Dead movie - 2003

That girls got some great hooters.

wow that's quite a resume!

[OANerd]

Chloe's in a hot steamy shower scene in the next Episode.

Courtesy of KRYPTONSITE.COM

http://www.kryptonsite.com/S20J-209-SMA1-10-10.jpg

[silentbob8201]

is that the famous jett jackson as Cyborg on Smallville tonight?

[LiddyRules]

It is Bob, 'tis.

[kloraferm]

Chloe's in a hot steamy shower scene in the next Episode.

Courtesy of KRYPTONSITE.COM

http://www.kryptonsite.com/S20J-209-SMA1-10-10.jpg
Nice!

[kloraferm]

How did Pa Kent die? I didn't see that episode.

[patbattlefield]

so jor'el IS still controlling Lionel. I knew it!

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

How did Pa Kent die? I didn't see that episode.

from a heart attack, same way Pa Kent died in the first Superman movie. but unlike the movie, Pa Kent got the heart attack after kicking Lionel Luther's ass after Lionel alluded to having a secret about the Kent family, meaning Lionel might know about Clark's powers. i caught the last few minutes of tonight's ep, and it ended with Lionel looking at a photo of what looked like Clark using his powers to save Lana.

[kloraferm]

Oh, ok, thanks. I did see the other episode when Lionel saw the footage of Clark and called him Kal El last night

[ChimneyFish]

I'm going to have to get the DVD of last season.
I've missed a lot.

[Little April]

I know nothing about the comic book, but...

Isn't Jor'el a "good guy"? I know he's done some shaddy shit in the show, but in the movie he was the all knowing solid mentor to Clark. I'm hoping it'll all turn out to be just some sort of test to make sure Clark isn't a douche who'll abuse his powers.

The episode with "Angel" sucked. I don't know if they were being stingy with the special effects budget, but they were unbearable.. and her acting was the worst I've seen on that show in awhile.

On a lighter note.. did anyone catch Patrice mentioning Aquaman several weeks ago? He was referring to his body.. but I don't remember the exact context and no one on the show called him on it.

Allison Mack had a grill full of braces in some movie she did a while back. The movie was unwatchable.

[silentbob8201]

I know nothing about the comic book, but...

Isn't Jor'el a "good guy"? I know he's done some shaddy shit in the show, but in the movie he was the all knowing solid mentor to Clark. I'm hoping it'll all turn out to be just some sort of test to make sure Clark isn't a douche who'll abuse his powers.

The episode with "Angel" sucked. I don't know if they were being stingy with the special effects budget, but they were unbearable.. and her acting was the worst I've seen on that show in awhile.

On a lighter note.. did anyone catch Patrice mentioning Aquaman several weeks ago? He was referring to his body.. but I don't remember the exact context and no one on the show called him on it.

Allison Mack had a grill full of braces in some movie she did a while back. The movie was unwatchable. well. if Jor El is actually Jor El. i know thats wacky me saying that but look who's doing the voice none other than General Zod him self

[Little April]

I just watched the "Cyborg" episode (DVR). The old lady and I agree with PatBattleField.. Lionel is still possessed by Jor El.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

I'm going to have to get the DVD of last season.
I've missed a lot.

i wouldn't, a lot of last season was total crap. they did this awful "Lana being posessed by a witch" subplot that was so incredibly stupid. the only real good parts were Chloe discovering Clark's powers and the final episode where they finally reveal the reason for that cave and hint at the Fortress of Solitude.

i want to go out and buy the Superman movies box set, but i heard they're releasing a better box set (with tons more extras and a Richard Donner re-edited version of Superman II) in a couple months to coincide with Superman Returns, like the way they released the Batman box set when Batman Begins came out. i grew up on those films but lost my old copies some time ago. do you guys think i should buy the box set now or wait for the new one?

[LiddyRules]

i wouldn't, a lot of last season was total crap. they did this awful "Lana being posessed by a witch" subplot that was so incredibly stupid. the only real good parts were Chloe discovering Clark's powers and the final episode where they finally reveal the reason for that cave and hint at the Fortress of Solitude.
You're forgetting one other thing Glenn, Alicia's wedding dress. God damn that girl was hot. But seriously though, S4 might be one of the worst seasons of any TV series ever. It becomes even more all about Lana, they completely sell out Lex making him evil for no real justification, butcher Lois Lane, and have more loose plotlines than an action movie.

i want to go out and buy the Superman movies box set, but i heard they're releasing a better box set (with tons more extras and a Richard Donner re-edited version of Superman II) in a couple months to coincide with Superman Returns, like the way they released the Batman box set when Batman Begins came out. i grew up on those films but lost my old copies some time ago. do you guys think i should buy the box set now or wait for the new one? Wait for the big one. Two reasons. 1) Donner cut of S2 with a lot more footage. 2) A version of Superman 4 (the one with Nuclear Man) that is over 2 hours long.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

Wait for the big one. Two reasons. 1) Donner cut of S2 with a lot more footage. 2) A version of Superman 4 (the one with Nuclear Man) that is over 2 hours long.

i'm looking forward more to Donner's cut of S2. the film is great as it is, but i'm really interested in seeing what they left out and/or what they changed when they fired Donner and brought in Lester, as well as all the behind-the-scenes stuff. i don't care too much for S4 as i'm sure a lot of people don't either, but even just seeing the behind-the-scenes footage for all four would be great since i end up watching that stuff more than the actual film a lot of the time.

[LiddyRules]

Oh, S4 was a load of shit what with Mariel Hemmingway breathing in space. But 40 more minutes of shit might be delightful to play in.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

i've been doing some searching, and it looks like the new box set will not only come with two-disc versions of all 4 Superman films, but with Supergirl and Superman Returns as a 14 disc set and it's set for a November release date.

November??? shit, i might as well just buy the current box set if i have to wait that damn long and hope they release the Donner version of Superman II separately.

[OANerd]

Reason why S4 was so crappy was because S1-S3 was like watching the same episode over & over again, how many more people could really show up with freaky powers of some sort because they had some meteor rock in their backyard.. meanwhile, Lana wore kryptonite on her neck for the 1st 2 seasons... maybe she can suck a super cock now?

[LiddyRules]

Reason why S4 was so crappy was because S1-S3 was like watching the same episode over & over again, how many more people could really show up with freaky powers of some sort because they had some meteor rock in their backyard.. meanwhile, Lana wore kryptonite on her neck for the 1st 2 seasons... maybe she can suck a super cock now?
S1-3 was a lot better. We had a lot of Clark/Lex interaction. S4 was when it started to become like the Poochie episode of Smallville. A witch subplot that made no sense, continuity issues became even more apparent (and this show certainly had never been continuous) and the writing was so much worse.

[silentbob8201]

Oh, S4 was a load of shit what with Mariel Hemmingway breathing in space. But 40 more minutes of shit might be delightful to play in.now now if Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy taught me anything, it taught me you can hold your breath for 30 Seconds

[kloraferm]

I kind of like it, but I wish he'd just become Superman already, I mean come on he's almost 30!

[TreeFortRichard]

I think they are setting up a great plotline for Lex becoming evil lex. If his father is found to be helping superman and S-blocking lex from finding out the truth about Kent that would be the last straw for lex...I am thinking that lex is going to test something out on himself and it will make him crazy...

[kloraferm]

But Lex already knows what he looks like without the "Clark Kent" disguise. How is he going to not know who Superman really is?

[silentbob8201]

I kind of like it, but I wish he'd just become Superman already, I mean come on he's almost 30!

i know technically he's "almost" 30 but on the show he's only about 19.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

But Lex already knows what he looks like without the "Clark Kent" disguise. How is he going to not know who Superman really is?

they really gotta start making Clark into the bumbling overly-nice, "gee golly" nerdy guy with the glasses and the slicked hair soon if anyone's ever gonna believe that Lex won't be able to put 2 and 2 together once Clark finally dons the cape and big red S.

[Little April]

Hey.. how come no SmallVille tonight or next week, either?

[TreeFortRichard]

prob because of the olympics...oh and then there is the fact that this is a normal 'show repeats' time of the year b/c it is not a ratings book period and god forbid they show a show just to entertain us...So all the networks are holding back their new shows until the next sweeps/ratings period...so since they just got done w/ feb sweeps they aren't giving us a show for a while

Sweeps start on a Thursday, and end on a Wednesday. They always run exactly 4 weeks. They generally take place during the following times:

November sweeps : 1st week of Nov. thru 4th week of Nov.
February sweeps : 1st week of Feb. thru 4th week of Feb.
May sweeps : last week of April thru 3rd week of May
July sweeps : 2nd week of July thru 1st week of August

There are also January sweeps in 17 markets, October sweeps in 25 markets and March sweeps in the top 4 markets.

SO they could be waiting for the top 4 market march sweeps to roll out the next eps/

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

prob because of the olympics...oh and then there is the fact that this is a normal 'show repeats' time of the year b/c it is not a ratings book period and god forbid they show a show just to entertain us...So all the networks are holding back their new shows until the next sweeps/ratings period...so since they just got done w/ feb sweeps they aren't giving us a show for a while

Sweeps start on a Thursday, and end on a Wednesday. They always run exactly 4 weeks. They generally take place during the following times:

November sweeps : 1st week of Nov. thru 4th week of Nov.
February sweeps : 1st week of Feb. thru 4th week of Feb.
May sweeps : last week of April thru 3rd week of May
July sweeps : 2nd week of July thru 1st week of August

There are also January sweeps in 17 markets, October sweeps in 25 markets and March sweeps in the top 4 markets.

SO they could be waiting for the top 4 market march sweeps to roll out the next eps/

that stinks.


i think.

[OANerd]

was about to throw my Tivo out the fuckin window for missing it last night.. then found out no episode for 2 weeks.

I'm sorry Tivo, I still wuv you !

[TreeFortRichard]

was about to throw my Tivo out the fuckin window for missing it last night.. then found out no episode for 2 weeks.

I'm sorry Tivo, I still wuv you !
DO NOT DISS THE TIVO BITCH!!! :)

I <3 Tivo!

[OANerd]

DO NOT DISS THE TIVO BITCH!!! :)

I <3 Tivo!


Not dissin it, I love my Tivo, I have one in every room...

Can anyone out there help.. I think TFR needs some anger management sessions.. Holy crapola.

[OANerd]

Does anyone know the episode schedule? Does the show start again this week?

[TreeFortRichard]

The next episode is

104. Hypnotic
First aired: 3/30/2006
Writer: Todd Slavkin, Darren Swimmer
Director: Michael Rohl
Guest star: John Glover (Lionel Luthor), Erica Durance (Lois Lane) , Nichole Hiltz (Simone), James Marsters (Professor Milton Fine/Brainiac)

Clark is hypnotized by a woman who uses a supposedly magical charm to control others, reveals his super powers, and is sent to kill Lex. Meanwhile, Lex has tracked down the missing Professor Fine.and plans to confront him, unaware that Clark is coming to murder him.

www.tv.com is a great source for show info...

also, to see new episode listings try http://next-episode.net/

It tells you every new show tonight, tomorrow, and yesterday...I use it all the time to find out what i need to d/l :)

[ChimneyFish]

Thanks TFR.
I was starting to get pissed(wow, is that pathetic) at seeing reruns every week.


On a side note, I caught an old episode on ABC family, and WOW Chloe has a nice rump on her. Delicious.:icon_cool

[LiddyRules]

On a side note, I caught an old episode on ABC family, and WOW Chloe has a nice rump on her. Delicious.:icon_cool
Don't forget her awesome tits. Miss Professional Wear Chloe. See you on Monday CF.

[ChimneyFish]

Last nights episode was complete horseshit.
I wish Lana would die already!!!!
So sick of the Clark/Lana "we can't be together, but I love you" storyline.
:icon_evil

[kloraferm]

He should just become Superman already! He's, like 30.

[LiddyRules]

I hate Lana. Just make Chloe into Lois and kill Durance somehow.

But damn it, after a season and a half of lameness, finally they give Rosenbaum stuff to do (with Marsters) and he's back to kicking ass. Though I don't like how he schemed to break up Lana and Clark. He's cooler than that!!

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

looks like Lana's gonna become a druggie next week. from last night's preview, it looks like she gets addicted to some heroin-like Kryptonite drug. i doubt she'll die, Clark will save her as usual, but it should be interesting to watch.

yeah, i'm getting tired of the Clark/Lana thing too, they've been dragging this out so for damn long, it's getting so frustrating that they've kept this going for so long. i really think Lana will end up with Lex at some point, they planted that seed on the Christmas episode and they've been slowly gravitating to that. i don't care if they do hook up anyway, since we know the Clark and Lois thing is unavoidable.

[ChimneyFish]

looks like Lana's gonna become a druggie next week. from last night's preview, it looks like she gets addicted to some heroin-like Kryptonite drug. i doubt she'll die, Clark will save her as usual, but it should be interesting to watch.

yeah, i'm getting tired of the Clark/Lana thing too, they've been dragging this out so for damn long, it's getting so frustrating that they've kept this going for so long. i really think Lana will end up with Lex at some point, they planted that seed on the Christmas episode and they've been slowly gravitating to that. i don't care if they do hook up anyway, since we know the Clark and Lois thing is unavoidable.


I just wish they'd get on with it already.
It's like they've run out of ideas.
With the whole Braniac(whoever Marsters is supposed to be), you've got a kick ass story line, but they decide to go with the Clark/Lana thing.
Ridiculous.

[ChimneyFish]

Originally Posted by GLENN_THE_TOOL
looks like Lana's gonna become a druggie next week. from last night's preview, it looks like she gets addicted to some heroin-like Kryptonite drug. i doubt she'll die, Clark will save her as usual, but it should be interesting to watch.



An alright episode last night.


The scene with Lex and his mom was great.
"Let all the blood wash away."
"What blood????"
"The blood of all the people you're going to murder."

[MilitantRabbit]

The little thing that Johnathan said to his son was very symbolic.
"You're gonna touch a lot of lives not just as a person, but as a symbol. A symbol of peace, a symbol of justice." Very foreshadowing to the point where he should have just said "Become Superman, you douche!".

[kloraferm]

Very foreshadowing to the point where he should have just said "Become Superman, you douche!".
:icon_lol: :clap: That would've been great

[ChimneyFish]

I really hope they continue making Lex' character more and more evil.
Of course, they'll probably dump that idea for the ol' Lana and Clark schtick.

[LiddyRules]

I liked last night's episode if only for Lex's dream which almost made up for that horseshit Christmas episode, Chloe (of course) and the Chloe/Lex scene "You were dead, I took a chance."

[ChimneyFish]

I liked last night's episode if only for Lex's dream which almost made up for that horseshit Christmas episode, Chloe (of course) and the Chloe/Lex scene "You were dead, I took a chance."


Thay had this nice cleavage shot of her.
Godamnit, I love that girl!!!!

[Warfarer]

Is this the last season for Smallville? I thought I read that but wasn't sure. I wish they had ended it last season, the longer it runs the more I draw farther from it. This is a show that really ran its course, I think it would have been fantastic if they could have signed the cast on to morph it into a Superman show. I really like Tom Welling as Clark Kent, I think he does a great job of it and am disappointed that they strayed away from him playing Superman in the movie, especially if this is the last season.

[Little April]

I really like Tom Welling as Clark Kent, I think he does a great job of it and am disappointed that they strayed away from him playing Superman in the movie, especially if this is the last season.

Agreed. Young Superman will always be Tom Welling - the dude in the movie seems like an imposter.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

Is this the last season for Smallville? I thought I read that but wasn't sure. I wish they had ended it last season, the longer it runs the more I draw farther from it. This is a show that really ran its course, I think it would have been fantastic if they could have signed the cast on to morph it into a Superman show. I really like Tom Welling as Clark Kent, I think he does a great job of it and am disappointed that they strayed away from him playing Superman in the movie, especially if this is the last season.

i think they were going into this season thinking it would be the last, but the show has been experiencing more success despite the fact they moved it to Friday nights at the beginning of the season, thinking it would fade out. but it still pulled in a big audience on Friday nights, so they moved it to Thursdays and now a sixth season is a big possibility, but not a done deal. as far as i know, they haven't made any deals for a sixth, but my guess is that they will make a sixth season because of the new movie. ending the show so soon to the movie's release would give people the impression that the movie is a continuation of the show, which it isn't.

the past few seasons, they started losing me because it just seemed to be the same "meteor freak of the week, Clark and Lana are they/aren't they" bullshit, not to mention that bad "Lana posessed by a witch" subplot last season. but now that they're getting closer and closer to Clark finally becoming Superman and the little nods to the movies like the Fortress and Zod, i'm interested again.

and yeah, it sucked that Tom Welling couldn't play Supes in the new movie, but the movie series and the show are two different entities, Smallville ain't a prequel to the movies and the new movie is following the storyline of the first two movies, so it wouldn't really make much sense if he did. who knows, maybe the big payoff at the end of the series is that we'll finally get to see Tom in full Superman costume flying and fighting crime in the final episode.

[Jables2002]

I would have thought that another season wouldn't be inevitable, because the WB and UPN are merging.

But I hope it continues, because it looks like Clark will be leaving Smallville soon. His dad said he should so he'd better! I REALLY want this to turn into a Superman series, I'm starting to get sick of the Smallville angle.

BTW- In the Superman catoon series from the 90's there is an episode where Lana and Lex are dating for a while, but I'm not sure if that relationship had been explored in any of the other incarnations of Superman.

[Little April]

Anyone remember that episode with the kid who would touch people and see when/how they were going to die? And when he touched Clark the kid's vision was of Clark in the outfit flying through the clouds? That shit gave me the chills - I'm 30, so the original Superman movies made quite the impression on me when I was a kid.

[crescentwrench]

I will throw in my thoughts of also being sick of the Lana/Clark can't-love-you-because-it-will-hurt-you angle. Fine, you can't be together, fuck it. Be awkward friends and get on with it. Hopefully that's what they did with the hypno-chick (who was scorching hot btw).

I wish they'd get away from the meteor rock incident du jour and either find something original or pull more from the comics. Actually I'd really like it if they pulled more from the comics. They have 60 years of great material to work with, why not start introducing some characters that aren't kryptonite powered? I thought the Vic Stone ep was good, I get to totally geek out when the references come up.

And more Brainiac dammit. You wasted half a season with him being gone, get to it already.

[Stryker412]

This isn't the last season. The CW (UPN/WB) is using Smallville as one it's major draws. There's going to be a sixth season, and they're even trying for a seventh.

[ChimneyFish]

This isn't the last season. The CW (UPN/WB) is using Smallville as one it's major draws. There's going to be a sixth season, and they're even trying for a seventh.


If they're going to do that, then, no matter how delicious she is, Lana needs to die. I can't take this shit for two more seasons.
Bye Lana.:action-sm
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I just realized, if this is season 5, then I've missed at least two seasons. I guess I have to do some DVD shopping.

[crescentwrench]

Lana can't die, she marries Pete Ross eventually. And she knows about Clark and they are good friends in the way Clark and Chloe are now. I would be fine with that. But this fucking Romeo and Juliet bullshit has to go.

[LiddyRules]

It isn't just the Clark/Lana relationship, the problem mostly focuses on Lana. For the entire series she has been held to an extremely high standard, never gets called on her shit, everyone falls in love with her, she's the most impotant person in the world, she is perfect in every way, she gets everything she wants and no one ever paints her in a bad light. And all throughout this she has absolutely no personality and is pretty much just a prop everyone bows down to. That's the problem with Lana.

[ChimneyFish]

I was never a big reader of the comic. Just occasional.
Is there something special about Lana that just hasn't been told yet????
It's almost as if they're making it out as if she's more important than they've lead you to believe.

[LiddyRules]

In comics she was the girl who was left behind and remained in Smallville. Average smalltown girl, no special powers, nothing interesting about her. I think she ended up becoming a cunt in recent incarnations. I'm not a comic reader so I don't know for sure.

For some reason the producers have decided to make Lana the most important thing in the destinies of Clark and Lex giving her no flaws and making her the most perfect piece of perfection to ever walk the earth.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

they're trying to make the Clark/Lana thing a tragic love story and upping the drama as much as possible, which is why they've been dragging this out for so damn long. the fact that everyone knows Clark and Lois end up together makes what they're doing with Lana even more frustrating. it just feels like, "Alright, ditch Lana so Clark and Lois can get together already!"

[OANerd]

besides.. how many times can they write a show about her *almost* dying..

every other fuckin week, she's innches from death !!! enuff already, kill her or bang her.. make up yer minds please !

:( dawned on me :( the directors/writers of Smallville don't read this..

oh well, back to surfin porn !

[silentbob8201]

they're trying to make the Clark/Lana thing a tragic love story and upping the drama as much as possible, which is why they've been dragging this out for so damn long. the fact that everyone knows Clark and Lois end up together makes what they're doing with Lana even more frustrating. it just feels like, "Alright, ditch Lana so Clark and Lois can get together already!"
can you imagine the uproar from the fans of the comics if he dated Lois before he left Smallville to work for the Daily Planet in Metropolis? not to mention how many fans of the character that already hate the show because they made Pete a knitter and Lana part asian yet her Birth parents are white

[crescentwrench]

In the comics Lana is just a girl who Clark confides in. She knows he's Superman so he can be more open with her about things. That was her role. She married Pete who was eventually vice president under Lex Luthor and then president when Luthor went nuts. I think they're in the middle of a divorce right now.

Anyhoo, nice ripoff of Saw this week. And oh look, another kryptonite powered baddie! Let's not bring any more DC influence to the show. Those are only the best ones, so stop.

[ChimneyFish]

Anyhoo, nice ripoff of Saw this week. And oh look, another kryptonite powered baddie! Let's not bring any more DC influence to the show. Those are only the best ones, so stop.


At least they finally spared us the Clark/Lana horseshit this week.
All in all, not the worst episode I've seen.


On a side note, anyone watching the show that comes on after, Supernatural????

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

can you imagine the uproar from the fans of the comics if he dated Lois before he left Smallville to work for the Daily Planet in Metropolis? not to mention how many fans of the character that already hate the show because they made Pete a knitter and Lana part asian yet her Birth parents are white

well she doesn't look too chinky though, it isn't so obvious that she's part chink when you look at her, so they cast her hoping people either didn't notice or didn't care. Pete Ross being a knitter? meh. he's a minor character anyway. plus, if Pete and Lana hook up like they do in the comics, their gonna have some good-looking kids (insert your own joke here, but knitter/chink/white mixes almost always turn out to be good-looking).

and yeah, this week's ep was a Saw rip-off (did they use tin foil to make the guy's mask?), although seeing Clark use his powers right in front of Lionel Luthor and Lionel's reaction was worth it.

[Little April]

and yeah, this week's ep was a Saw rip-off (did they use tin foil to make the guy's mask?), although seeing Clark use his powers right in front of Lionel Luthor and Lionel's reaction was worth it.

Exactly.. the Saw rip-off was almost unbearable - but using the powers in front of Lionel made the episode worth it. I'm pissed that Clark acted like a shit dick towards Lionel afterwards - even after Lionel revealed he knew Clark's secret for over a year and did NOTHING to compromise it.

[patbattlefield]

Exactly.. the Saw rip-off was almost unbearable - but using the powers in front of Lionel made the episode worth it. I'm pissed that Clark acted like a shit dick towards Lionel afterwards - even after Lionel revealed he knew Clark's secret for over a year and did NOTHING to compromise it.
jo-el is somehow manipulating lionel i think. especially after he went nuts at the end scribbling on paper.

[TreeFortRichard]

yeah, i don't think that lionel is consious of jo-el's actions...either lionel is on hold somewhere in a mind prison, or jo-el has a governer on him

[patbattlefield]

yeah, i don't think that lionel is consious of jo-el's actions...either lionel is on hold somewhere in a mind prison, or jo-el has a governer on him
i theorize that there is some kind of duality between lionel and jor-el. i think that they are sharing conciousness in lionel's body kind of like a split personality. some part or all of jor-el is in lionel's mind and he has to be aware of it or how else would he know about the fortess of solitude?

[silentbob8201]

Gee Clark is stuck in the Phantom Zone will he ever get out? oh and i hated the Super Power having Lex in the JJ Abrams script why do they think it'll work now?

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

yeah, tonight's season finale sucked something fierce. i was expecting Zod to actually show up, not to possess Lex. how much you wanna bet that Lex will have a sudden case of amnesia once Clark does come back and manages to exorcise Zod from Lex's body? how many more times will they be doing the old "Whoa, what happened? I totally forgot seeing Clark use his powers!" ughh...

and it sucked how easily Clark got sucked into the Phantom Zone. i mean shit, he was able to keep from getting sucked in when the opening to the Phantom Zone was mere feet away from him at the beginning of the season, now Zod/Lex tosses some ring into the air, it zooms far, far away, and Clark gets pulled in? what the fuck? and didn't Clark get stuck in some Phantom Zone-y place at the end of Season 3? jesus h. christ, they gotta come up with better shit than this or just end the damn series.

[Little April]

Help.. my DVR stopped recording while Lex/Zod and Lana (cunt) were on the roof top.. was there anything else after that?

[LiddyRules]

Help.. my DVR stopped recording while Lex/Zod and Lana (cunt) were on the roof top.. was there anything else after that? Lana bitches about something, then Lex/Zod kisses her (because everything has to be about Lana), then a shot of Clark in the Phantom Zone.

Here's hoping Chloe doesn't get *****.

[Jables2002]

The one good thing was the shot of Clark in the Phone booth.

[burningsun]

last year's final was really good and they totally blew it this year

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

and all the Chloe fans out there must have all cheered when she frenched Clark. she doesn't love Clark anymore but she sticks her tongue down his throat? someone's living in denial...

my question is how the hell is Clark gonna save everyone? his mom and Lois are on a plane to god knows where being flown by Brainiac, Chloe and Lionel are being attacked in a riot, Zod/Lex is screwing Lana, and total anarchy has broken out all over the world. how worse can things get before Clark finally realizes that he's fuckin' Superman!

[MrBogey]

Well they've kinda totally destroyed any congruity with the DC universe so asking wha each dos in there is pointless.

Though in the original at one point many many many years later it's revealed Lana is playing host to the spirit known as Kismet. Kismet chose Lana because of her closeness to Clark who she knew could protect her while she was hiding.

[ZeoVGM]

Finally saw it~

Gee Clark is stuck in the Phantom Zone will he ever get out? oh and i hated the Super Power having Lex in the JJ Abrams script why do they think it'll work now?

Well er, it DID work. That scene was badass. It's nice to see the writers doing interesting and different stuff with the show.

yeah, tonight's season finale sucked something fierce. i was expecting Zod to actually show up, not to possess Lex.

No the writer's fault. DC/WB doesn't ALLOW them to show other Kryptonians.

how much you wanna bet that Lex will have a sudden case of amnesia once Clark does come back and manages to exorcise Zod from Lex's body? how many more times will they be doing the old "Whoa, what happened? I totally forgot seeing Clark use his powers!" ughh...

Could very well happen. But then again, what if Lex remembers? They could do that too.

and it sucked how easily Clark got sucked into the Phantom Zone. i mean shit, he was able to keep from getting sucked in when the opening to the Phantom Zone was mere feet away from him at the beginning of the season, now Zod/Lex tosses some ring into the air, it zooms far, far away, and Clark gets pulled in? what the fuck?

Uh, Zod is a bit more powerful than the random dude in the season premiere. Kind of makes sense. Why nitpick?

and didn't Clark get stuck in some Phantom Zone-y place at the end of Season 3?

No, he was kind of sucked into the cave wall and was reborn as Kal-El. But that was a pretty lame finale which led into the worst season of the series.

jesus h. christ, they gotta come up with better shit than this or just end the damn series.

Yeah, they should end the damn series after its 5th season which had its best ratings and critical acclaim ever. Good choice.

Can't understand how people could not like this finale. Just as good as last season, except the ending to this had a MUCH bigger "comic book feel" to it. Very cool.

And next season, according to the creator? All about the rise of evil Lex Luthor, finally. Also, being in the Phantom Zone could have an effect on Clark I guess.

My hopes? Lana finally finds out in the premiere. It needs to happen. Like, now. Only huge mistake they made this season.

[MilitantRabbit]

I didn't see the whole ending, the damn tape cut it off.

The whole Phantom Zone thing at the end is what Hollywood likes to call the ol' Cliffhanger/Wrap-up just in case we get canceled.

[Little April]

I didn't see the whole ending, the damn tape cut it off.

The whole Phantom Zone thing at the end is what Hollywood likes to call the ol' Cliffhanger/Wrap-up just in case we get canceled.

That happend to me too, so I posted a page back. My DVR stopped while Lex and Lana were on the roof about to kiss.. here's what a fellow WackBagger said I missed.

"Lana bitches about something, then Lex/Zod kisses her (because everything has to be about Lana), then a shot of Clark in the Phantom Zone."

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

No the writer's fault. DC/WB doesn't ALLOW them to show other Kryptonians.

umm, then who were those two "Disciples of Zod" who tried sending Clark into the Phantom Zone in the season premiere?

Could very well happen. But then again, what if Lex remembers? They could do that too.

he won't. they'll make him forget. Lex can't be allowed to remember because Clark becomes Superman, Superman and Lex become mortal enemies, and Lex never finds out that Clark and Superman are one and the same. they're not gonna deviate so far from the comic book storylines that they can't find some way of getting back to it. and Lex knowing (and remembering) that Clark is an alien named Kal-El is a HUGE deviation from the comics.

Uh, Zod is a bit more powerful than the random dude in the season premiere. Kind of makes sense. Why nitpick?

so their abilities as Kryptonians are reflected in the vacuum power of the Phantom Zone portal they open? and that "random dude" was not one, but TWO Kryptonians.

No, he was kind of sucked into the cave wall and was reborn as Kal-El. But that was a pretty lame finale which led into the worst season of the series.

at least we can agree on that. :icon_mrgr

Yeah, they should end the damn series after its 5th season which had its best ratings and critical acclaim ever. Good choice.

it's better than letting the show jump the shark and fizzle out. it's called "going out on top."

Can't understand how people could not like this finale. Just as good as last season, except the ending to this had a MUCH bigger "comic book feel" to it. Very cool.

i liked last season's finale better for a few reasons. first, they finally let us know what the hell the cave and those Kryptonian artifacts were for. second, they wrapped up the awful Lana/witch storyline and killed off Lana's "boyfriend" (who is now on Supernatural, where he has a much better role). and third, i know we don't get to see the Fortress in the end, but we KNOW it's coming. talk about anticipation.

My hopes? Lana finally finds out in the premiere. It needs to happen. Like, now. Only huge mistake they made this season.

agreed. they need to stop leading the poor girl on to think Clark is a dick. it's getting tiresome.

[TreeFortRichard]

Jesus Christ Glenn, Do you even watch the show? What is wrong with you?


Just kidding....Got ya! Great analysis, I can tell you are hard core Superman. The show is definately stuck in some kind of a plot trap. I don't exactly know where they are going with it.

My problem is how is how is superman going to remove the nuke from the elevator at the Eiffel tower and launch it into space to explode the Phantom Zone that superman is trapped in! Uggh a Paradox!!! :)

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

bah! you got me, sir! :icon_mrgr

[OANerd]

I think it was the best episode of this season..

Flipping a coin a few episodes back, I woulda killed Lana and let Jonathan Kent live... The whole Martha being Senator is stupid .. just a way to write more lines for Lionel.

[ZeoVGM]

umm, then who were those two "Disciples of Zod" who tried sending Clark into the Phantom Zone in the season premiere?

Fine and the two "Disciples of Zod" were created BY Kryptonians, I believe. They're not really kryptonian.

he won't. they'll make him forget. Lex can't be allowed to remember because Clark becomes Superman, Superman and Lex become mortal enemies, and Lex never finds out that Clark and Superman are one and the same. they're not gonna deviate so far from the comic book storylines that they can't find some way of getting back to it. and Lex knowing (and remembering) that Clark is an alien named Kal-El is a HUGE deviation from the comics.

They've deviated from the storyline enough as it is already. In the comic books, Lex knows Clark Kent as a loser with glasses. They've already completely eliminated -any- chance of people not knowing who Superman is. :P

And Lex has found out a couple times in the comics. :P

They could easily have him not forget. I don't think they will, but they could. I think instead of Lex rememering, they're going to have it have a different kind of effect on him.

so their abilities as Kryptonians are reflected in the vacuum power of the Phantom Zone portal they open? and that "random dude" was not one, but TWO Kryptonians.

Dude, that's such a silly nitpick. (And again, they weren't actual Kryptonians I don't believe.)

it's better than letting the show jump the shark and fizzle out. it's called "going out on top."

True, but the writers may think they can keep it up/make it better.

And The WB/CW isn't going to let go of one of their top shows so easily.

i liked last season's finale better for a few reasons. first, they finally let us know what the hell the cave and those Kryptonian artifacts were for. second, they wrapped up the awful Lana/witch storyline and killed off Lana's "boyfriend"

In other words, ended a fucking HORRID plotline that NO ONE liked and got rid of a useless character.

(who is now on Supernatural, where he has a much better role).

Yep. Jensen Ackles was awesome on Dark Angel and is great in Supernatural. They fucked him over in Smallville by giving him a boring character, then they tried to make him interested and just fucked it up even more.