MSNBC and Newsweek are ripping off the boys ... Hoo Hoo

[Kurto2021]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10219756/site/newsweek/site/newsweek/

They must have heard the show and visited the website.

The age of their youngest patients has slipped to 9 years old, and doctors have begun to research the roots of this disease. Anorexia is probably hard-wired, the new thinking goes, and the best treatment is a family affair.
A fucking disease....why the fuck is not eating a disease? I like cookies, is that a disease?

EDIT: Shit how do I change the topic name....I can't freaking type

[tar_baby]

i dont think the editors at newsweek (fuckin liberal magazine) would get their news and cover stories from the opie and anthony show

[hillarythegreat]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10219756/site/newsweek/site/newsweek/

They must have heard the show and visited the website.


No This is a story that comes and goes. Just do a search on the net and you will find tons of recent stories on this, in fact stories are constantly being written on it. I would say it's gotten much worse over the last 10 years,
Has nothing to do with a radio show.

[ShooterMcGavin]

Apparently anorexic kids like to play hopscotch with angry expressions on their faces.

[hillarythegreat]

Apparently anorexic kids like to play hopscotch with angry expressions on their faces.

They look like the kids in children of the corn.

[LiddyRules]

The pro-anorexic girls call themselves Ana and the pro-bulimia girls are known as Mia. Just little things you pick up when reading 15 year old's livejournals.

[hillarythegreat]

The pro-anorexic girls call themselves Ana and the pro-bulimia girls are known as Mia. Just little things you pick up when reading 15 year old's livejournals.

No, they are simply being used as ana for anorexic and mia for bulimia. The fact that some of the sites are pro are just coinidence... of course when you are still suffering you want pro sites to help you continue so that's why it looks the way you think it does.

[Sack of Chisels]

Picking up on happenings on the Internet is not ripping off anyone. That kind of shit is all over; do you think Bill Burr was the first one to stumble upon it and laugh at those clickity clack bitches?

[Kurto2021]

Jesus Christ people.....It is called SARCASM (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm). I even put the Hoo Hoo at the end of it because anytime some does something (no matter how common it is) some guy says he invented it and he is being ripped off. There was an intern that did a report on sarcasm maybe it should be required reading.

[sclone]

A fucking disease....why the fuck is not eating a disease? I like cookies, is that a disease?

You, sir, are an idiot. You don't acknowledge the existence of psychological diseases? Just because someone isn't born with or inherits a physiological disease with a very clear cut cause and effect, it doesn't mean it's not a disease (and to clear this up, no I am not anorexic nor have I ever known an "out" anorexic). There's obviously some sort of compulsion, whether genetic or otherwise, that would push someone to behave this way, and it's not just a choice to stop eating.

[jules]

You, sir, are an idiot. You don't acknowledge the existence of psychological diseases? Just because someone isn't born with or inherits a physiological disease with a very clear cut cause and effect, it doesn't mean it's not a disease (and to clear this up, no I am not anorexic nor have I ever known an "out" anorexic). There's obviously some sort of compulsion, whether genetic or otherwise, that would push someone to behave this way, and it's not just a choice to stop eating.
no sir you are an idiot.its the guys fuckin opinion ok.and as someone who knows someone with cancer, i tend to agree with his opinion of calling THIS psychological disorder as a disease. sorry i do not class a CHOICE to fuckin throw your guts up two minutes after you eat,as a disease.if you or anyone else who knows someone who has had this disorder,i am sorry,i am sure it is brutal to watch someone whither away like that.it isnt a disease,sorry. i think that is what he was saying. mental disorder-yes. disease-no fuckin way

[BIV]

You, sir, are an idiot. You don't acknowledge the existence of psychological diseases? Just because someone isn't born with or inherits a physiological disease with a very clear cut cause and effect, it doesn't mean it's not a disease (and to clear this up, no I am not anorexic nor have I ever known an "out" anorexic). There's obviously some sort of compulsion, whether genetic or otherwise, that would push someone to behave this way, and it's not just a choice to stop eating.
No. Eating disorders are addictions. Addictions are not diseases, they are a choice. I say this as a former addict.

[sclone]

No. Eating disorders are addictions. Addictions are not diseases, they are a choice. I say this as a former addict.

If that sentence said, "I say this as a former anorexic," it might hold water. But as it stands, who cares that you were a drug addict? Just because you had a problem with drugs, it doesn't mean you're qualified to say that something else is or isn't a disease. So where do you draw the line on addiction/disease? Is post-partum depression a disease, or is it some pesky little problem that someone should just snap out of on sheer will power?

[jules]

If that sentence said, "I say this as a former anorexic," it might hold water. But as it stands, who cares that you were a drug addict? Just because you had a problem with drugs, it doesn't mean you're qualified to say that something else is or isn't a disease. So where do you draw the line on addiction/disease? Is post-partum depression a disease, or is it some pesky little problem that someone should just snap out of on sheer will power?
we are NOT talking about post partum depression here,and if we did how are you going to put that in the same boat as anorexia? and where the fuck are you qualified to say someone is a fuckin idiot because they give their opinion on something? and how are you qualified to say what is or isnt a disease? its called opinion o great one,and thats we do here sir. i dont think you are an idiot no matter how ridiculous that i personally think some of your opinions are. and are you mad when you say 'who cares that you were a drug addict'? i dont think he wanted fucking sympathy scloney

[hillarythegreat]

Hopefully this will put an end to this topic:

Being anorexic or bulimic is a DISORDER and not a disease. It's an eating disorder plain and simple. Once it begins, it's not something someone can simply stop more or less like an alcoholic. It's something that the brain fools the person into thinking they need to do because they will feel better. It needs a good therapist to help end it and possibly the use of anti deppresants. Thats it plain and simple. Yeah I have been through it all myself.

[sclone]

we are NOT talking about post partum depression here,and if we did how are you going to put that in the same boat as anorexia? and where the fuck are you qualified to say someone is a fuckin idiot because they give their opinion on something? and how are you qualified to say what is or isnt a disease? its called opinion o great one,and thats we do here sir. i dont think you are an idiot no matter how ridiculous that i personally think some of your opinions are. and are you mad when you say 'who cares that you were a drug addict'? i dont think he wanted fucking sympathy scloney

You clearly ignored context in my asking why we should care that he's an ex-addict. The point was that relative to this discussion, his being an ex-addict shouldn't matter, because this doesn't mean he knows what it means to be anorexic. Idiot.

[sclone]

Hopefully this will put an end to this topic:

Being anorexic or bulimic is a DISORDER and not a disease. It's an eating disorder plain and simple. Once it begins, it's not something someone can simply stop more or less like an alcoholic. It's something that the brain fools the person into thinking they need to do because they will feel better. It needs a good therapist to help end it and possibly the use of anti deppresants. Thats it plain and simple. Yeah I have been through it all myself.

Miriam-Webster definition of disease:

a condition of the living animal or plant body or of one of its parts that impairs normal functioning

disorder: to disturb the regular or normal functions of

Sounds like the same thing.

[jules]

You clearly ignored context in my asking why we should care that he's an ex-addict. The point was that relative to this discussion, his being an ex-addict shouldn't matter, because this doesn't mean he knows what it means to be anorexic. Idiot.
oh whats the matter is that what you want to do,call each other names? ouch!! now im hurt:icon_sad: and its still a disorder,so there:) :tounge:

[jules]

Hopefully this will put an end to this topic:

Being anorexic or bulimic is a DISORDER and not a disease. It's an eating disorder plain and simple. Once it begins, it's not something someone can simply stop more or less like an alcoholic. It's something that the brain fools the person into thinking they need to do because they will feel better. It needs a good therapist to help end it and possibly the use of anti deppresants. Thats it plain and simple. Yeah I have been through it all myself.
thank you ma'am:clap: :clap: :clap:

[BIV]

If that sentence said, "I say this as a former anorexic," it might hold water. But as it stands, who cares that you were a drug addict? Just because you had a problem with drugs, it doesn't mean you're qualified to say that something else is or isn't a disease. So where do you draw the line on addiction/disease? Is post-partum depression a disease, or is it some pesky little problem that someone should just snap out of on sheer will power?
Because eating disorders are addictions. They are treated the same. They have the same symptoms and they are both based on choice. I don't care whether it's your brain sending chemicals to tell your body to binge and purge, not eat, eat, smoke, poke, gamble or fuck...you make the decision whether or not to carry through with the action.

And because I don't want to lead people astray, I was addicted to cigs, not drugs.

[dj1i]

i agree with you that it's an addiction. but it's not a disorder.

disease/disorder are just buzzwords concocted by the media b/c in their eyes these girls are somehow victims, as they feel compelled to compete with rockstar skinny supermodels. these chix aren't victims. bulemia/anorexia is the path of least resistance. it's a lot easier to stick ur finger down ur throat and throw up the 800 calories you just than it is to run 5 miles.

puking b4 bedtime everynight might get them more attention, but so will salads and situps.

a lot of girls do blow for the same reasons, yet somehow thats not classified as such.

and sclone, if u ever wondered why libs are scarce on this board, its usually b/c they get banned for bashing. just sayin....

[hillarythegreat]

i agree with you that it's an addiction. but it's not a disorder.

disease/disorder are just buzzwords concocted by the media b/c in their eyes these girls are somehow victims, as they feel compelled to compete with rockstar skinny supermodels. these chix aren't victims. bulemia/anorexia is the path of least resistance. it's a lot easier to stick ur finger down ur throat and throw up the 800 calories you just than it is to run 5 miles.

puking b4 bedtime everynight might get them more attention, but so will salads and situps.

a lot of girls do blow for the same reasons, yet somehow thats not classified as such.

and sclone, if u ever wondered why libs are scarce on this board, its usually b/c they get banned for bashing. just sayin....

Ok this is my last post on this thread but I have to say this.

Yet one more reason why this is considered a disorder is because ALOT of the people who are Anorexic or Bulimic, are OCD or have some other weird thing like it. They tend to be perfectionists in everything they do and people who are OCD obsess about anything and everything which is where the weight issues and body image come in. I can honestly say that someone isn;t just gonna start vomiting one day to try and lose weight just because it seems like a good way to do it, normal mentally healthy people just don't suddenly think of doing something like that.

When my problems started, it just started with all the OCD stuff, I mean I had some weird things like having to count anything and everything that was in front of me. I had to count how many cracks in the sidewalk till I got to the corner, how many tapes were on the counter, you know all the stuff that matters! :icon_eek: Then there was the standard getting up several times to make sure I did something, you've heard all about OCD. Well one of those things was how I looked and of course weight even though I never ever had a weight problem. Anorexia and Bulimia are an off shoot of another problem that was already there and this is another reason why it's called a disorder. Unless you have been there especially with something as serious as this, don't label something you really have nothing about.

Cya, I'm outta this topic. :)

[Dick Whiskey]

Miriam-Webster definition of disease:

a condition of the living animal or plant body or of one of its parts that impairs normal functioning

disorder: to disturb the regular or normal functions of

Sounds like the same thing.
If you can't understand the difference between those definitions, nothing I can type here will ever change your mind. But try this, anyways.
Disease: something that happens to you that impairs normal functioning
Disorder: something you do that impairs normal functioning

[dj1i]

Ok this is my last post on this thread but I have to say this.

Yet one more reason why this is considered a disorder is because ALOT of the people who are Anorexic or Bulimic, are OCD or have some other weird thing like it. They tend to be perfectionists in everything they do and people who are OCD obsess about anything and everything which is where the weight issues and body image come in. I can honestly say that someone isn;t just gonna start vomiting one day to try and lose weight just because it seems like a good way to do it, normal mentally healthy people just don't suddenly think of doing something like that.

When my problems started, it just started with all the OCD stuff, I mean I had some weird things like having to count anything and everything that was in front of me. I had to count how many cracks in the sidewalk till I got to the corner, how many tapes were on the counter, you know all the stuff that matters! :icon_eek: Then there was the standard getting up several times to make sure I did something, you've heard all about OCD. Well one of those things was how I looked and of course weight even though I never ever had a weight problem. Anorexia and Bulimia are an off shoot of another problem that was already there and this is another reason why it's called a disorder. Unless you have been there especially with something as serious as this, don't label something you really have nothing about.

Cya, I'm outta this topic. :)

how convenient of you to punch out of a topic b4 i get a chance to respond :rolleyes:

i can accept OCD as a valid argument for ur case, but are you saying that every girl who does this has OCD?

i've dated two girls who were bulemic, i was with each one for a while and i got to know their personalities, mannerisms, etc. and neither one was OCD. one of them was crazy/suicidal but she also lived like a slob, the other just liked to party a lot and threw caution to the wind i.e. would split a pizza with me and then vanish to my bathroom for a good 15 mins.

[Dick Whiskey]

how convenient of you to punch out of a topic b4 i get a chance to respond :rolleyes:

i can accept OCD as a valid argument for ur case, but are you saying that every girl who does this has OCD?


That's not what she said. She said A LOT not ALL. I actually read a ton of shit off that pro-anorexia board, and those chickies are fucked in the head. It's kinda funny.:icon_lol:

[dj1i]

eh, ALOT/ALL/whatever....

the media still calls this as a disorder/disease, and it just seems A LOT like an excuse. is cleptomania a disorder too?

[sclone]

If you can't understand the difference between those definitions, nothing I can type here will ever change your mind. But try this, anyways.
Disease: something that happens to you that impairs normal functioning
Disorder: something you do that impairs normal functioning

Actually, the definition for disorder doesn't say anything about a human interference in normal functioning. Usually if you're going to try to distort context, you don't quote the definitions on the same page.

'To a health care clinician, the term "disease" may not imply anything different than the term "disorder."'

http://www.kelleycom.com/articles/pen_disease.htm

Third paragraph, first sentence. In essence, the author points out that to a child, the word disease carries a much more serious connotation than the word disorder, but in actuality they mean the same thing.

[jules]

Ok this is my last post on this thread but I have to say this.

Yet one more reason why this is considered a disorder is because ALOT of the people who are Anorexic or Bulimic, are OCD or have some other weird thing like it. They tend to be perfectionists in everything they do and people who are OCD obsess about anything and everything which is where the weight issues and body image come in. I can honestly say that someone isn;t just gonna start vomiting one day to try and lose weight just because it seems like a good way to do it, normal mentally healthy people just don't suddenly think of doing something like that.

When my problems started, it just started with all the OCD stuff, I mean I had some weird things like having to count anything and everything that was in front of me. I had to count how many cracks in the sidewalk till I got to the corner, how many tapes were on the counter, you know all the stuff that matters! :icon_eek: Then there was the standard getting up several times to make sure I did something, you've heard all about OCD. Well one of those things was how I looked and of course weight even though I never ever had a weight problem. Anorexia and Bulimia are an off shoot of another problem that was already there and this is another reason why it's called a disorder. Unless you have been there especially with something as serious as this, don't label something you really have nothing about.

Cya, I'm outta this topic. :)
uh,ok dont know what way ya meant that