Paranoia setting in... saftey of O&A's jobs?

[OnePremier]

In light of recent events, I'm beginning to wonder just how safe the boy's jobs are...

If they were so close (which im not sure if they were or not) to getting canned because of something a fan did, as insignificant as blowing a stupid airhorn too close to a fuckin reporter's ear... Does anyone see the inherent risk that as long as ANYTHING is taken out of the studio or involves the fans, our boys might be canned again?

The only reason I worry is because of the extrodinarily litigious nature of our society nowadays.... people will file a lawsuit for damn near anything...

Let me pose a few scenarios for you...

-Homeless shopping spree : One of the homeless gentlemen (most likely Jose) becomes irate with a store manager who asks them to leave. A physical confrontation breaks out and merchandise at the store is smashed and the manager is 'very injured'... the manager files a lawsuit against XM for damages, at which point the media picks up on it, etc. etc.

-Money Snatch: Some girl develops a severe gynecological problem from shoving money up her pussy, and sues XM for damages and medical bills... she informs the press, hoping they take they sympathy angle... etc. etc.

-Danny as the newsboy - He show's the pics of her tits to some kid who's 17....a parent finds out and presses charges, not to mention the media picks up it... the paper reads "two radio DJ's show pornographic pictures to child"

Anyone see what I mean? I might just be paranoid... to see how close we were to losing O&A again because of something so insignificant... scenarios like these aren't beyond the realm of imagination.

Then again, this might be like pullin your kid out of school for fear that he might get plugged by another disgruntled student on a shooting spree... something you shouldn't worry about because it's unpreventable (odds are astronomical... to try and avoid it does more harm than good, etc.)

Maybe I'm just talkin out my ass... I probably am...

yeah... I'm just talkin out my ass.

[SmellyFingers]

You are right that people will sue for anything these days--and often get away with it. That's one of the things that is wrong with our society. Money-seeking pussies. That's one of the reasons everyone insists on being politically correct all of the time. God forbid you offend someone, don't include someone, or call a spade a spade. Remember, it's not a Christmas tree anymore, it's a "Holiday Tree". Who's the fag who came up with that one?
And if someone does sue O and A and/or XM, even for the DUMBEST, MOST ABSURD reason, you know the damn media will try to make a mountain out of a mole hill just because they have a vendetta against anything that's honest, edgy, and not politically correct. Especially O and A.

[Hudson]

GET OFF THE DRUGS!!!

[SmellyFingers]

Grow a dick.

[Hudson]

ohh Scintillating comeback

[GreatAmericanZero]

think about it this way. The first day on XM they said they will blow this up and get fired somehow again. Everyone, including me, was thinking "yeah right, they can't get fired from satellite radio. and they will be extra careful not to do something stupid". Well, now we know that, yeah, it is inevitiable that they will get fired at some point. Lets just hope its years down the line

[Xyn]

Norton?

[LornPorn]

I spoke about this in an earlier thread, but if Anthony Johnson does sue the dumbass pest who used the air horn, he is just looking for money. Anyone who has been in the Army and been around tanks firing or field artillery howitzers for some time and forgot their earplugs, knows that while there is long-term damage, one blow from a horn is not gonna hurt you. I spent five years listening to cannons go off, I can hear fine. If we lose O and A over stupid shit like this, then maybe America needs to re-examine it's overly-PC self and get back to the good ole times - when men were men and women would be cooking me a big fat hoo hoo steak!

[robertkeys]

without the sarcasam its going to be really tough to fire ona. elo's presence on the show an how he deals with the pests is enough to say that ona have a great presence not only amongst subs, but also within the higher ups, sure anybody could be fired but xm is still a small enough company to have elo care about ona's audience and ona's opinon on who to hire on 202 (not mentioning giving them so much air time/replay's) that it would take something monumental to push them off the air. even if they did the show that never happened on xm i doubt they would get fired.
radio is a way different animal from xm.
i would be very very very surprised if they got even suspended from xm.

[Premarital Sex]

Anything done in-studio is pretty safe, thanks to Master Po's 9 pages of paperwork.

[The O&A Van]

You are absolutely correct OnePremier. Anything the Opie and Anthony show is involved with outside of the studio is risky because the people involved don't sign waivers like they do in the studio. Much like S4S3, just because O&A aren't personally involved (the HSS theory for instance) doesn't mean shit: Somebody has to take the fall for something like that.

Keep in mind though, Opie and Anthony got to where they are by taking chances. If they're going to score, they have to shoot; it's the nature of the beast.

[snakeeyes]

Ohh,you better beleive they will get fired from XM sooner or later. If what E-Lo said about how close they were to falling off the cliff was true,then there isnt a doubt in my mind theyll get canned sometime.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

O&A are starting to resemble Kurt Cobain - brilliant at what they do but will ultimately end up destroying themselves. :icon_razz

[Twigger]

This sucks!!! O&A tame = O&A boring. When they first got to XM the boys talked about the meetings with the XM execs and they told O&A to go all out and they can do anything because it would be virtually impossible to get fired. Sex in a Church on commercial radio I can understand the outrage...but an airhorn in an ear on XM??? That is crazy...I cannot even believe the word "fired" was even brought up. This is the wrong time for O&A to be boring, especially with Hoo Hoo on deck. If the boys are too tame they will be too LAME for the swing listeners (comparable to the "swing voters" which politicians target for elections), and they will then "swing" over to Hoo Hoo to see what he's got. Hoo Hoo is loving this because this was the chink in the O&A armor that he was waiting for and it comes at a perfect time for him. Why can't they just let O&A do their thing or did Hoo Hoo manage to pay off the XM execs and it's Infinity Broadcasting all over again???

[Hudson]

O&A are starting to resemble Kurt Cobain - brilliant at what they do but will ultimately end up destroying themselves. :icon_razz
Dude we all know Courtney Love pulled the trigger! So that means Jimmy....

[lil'beaver]

XM was the place to go for safe uncensored radio, but if they were close to firing someone for this then xm isnt sh*t. i was very suprised that it was even an issue. they must remember that we pay for this, if they are going to be a pussy roll over company then they are finished.

[GLENN_THE_TOOL]

you can say shit here, beave. it's okay to curse. :icon_mrgr

[BobDammit]

The thing to remember, is this is the first real trouble the boys have gotten into so far. (Or at least trouble we are allowed to mention http://img500.imageshack.us/img500/8827/censored4uy.gif ) Everyone needed to see how this played out, and as far as being "at the edge of the cliff" , as E-Lo said, I believe that was a knee-jerk reaction, but I am just the outsider who knows nothing. Im glad to see this is over for now, and you are right, Twigger: Safe O&A = Boring O&A :clap:

[CrisReevsHorse]

i might get some shit for this but i think the timing of the AOTM is perfect with all of the stern media blitz. once this pans over, i think they'll thank no filter paul fucking up the AOTM. their in the news and every one knows who and what O & A are about.

[TurboDan]

I think we as fans, as well as the boys themselves, panicked a little bit too much over this one. It wasn't the actual act of the reporter getting sprayed with the air horn that would've caused the firing, it was the potential of a media firestorm that could've caused pressure to XM to fire them.

As Ant posted here the night it happened, it was the snowball effect that we had to worry about. The fact is that if the media didn't pick up on S4S3, they wouldn't have gotten fired over that event either.

[Nortonsmeatytit]

An air horn on the street is no big deal, it's a public street and as long as you don't physically touch someone, there is not a lawyer in the land that can do a fucking thing about it as long as the behaviour is not "life threatening". Most courts do not have the docket space to deal with bullshit nuisance suits involving a fucking reporter on the street and an air horn. Cases brought to court of this nature piss judges off to no end as it should. A case of this nature brought to the courts would be thrown out on it's ass at it's first reading if it even got that far.

[shaunsinger]

An air horn on the street is no big deal, it's a public street and as long as you don't physically touch someone, there is not a lawyer in the land that can do a fucking thing about it as long as the behaviour is not "life threatening". Most courts do not have the docket space to deal with bullshit nuisance suits involving a fucking reporter on the street and an air horn. Cases brought to court of this nature piss judges off to no end as it should. A case of this nature brought to the courts would be thrown out on it's ass at it's first reading if it even got that far.

I think you guys are looking at this the wrong way. It's not the incident that would get the boys fired, its the snowball media pouring on. Which effects the Wall Street numbers which is what would get them fired in this head to head war with sirius.

[madbam]

Just hold up some big-ass signs whenever there is a live shot anywhere...you don't have to say anything to get the word out...I know the pests are creative motherfuckers...lets see some art.:clap::clap:

[Ponderous]

I just think the bbboys need to get that old English nanny they talked aboot. Or, they could just have Po kick their asses whenever they do something that may get them fired.

But seriously, this is the price they pay for being "edgy." Sooner or later, something happens related to the show and some cock sucking lawyer (I don't like lawyers) takes the ball and runs with it. What does he/she have to lose? Lawsuit against radio celebreties always means more gooder publicity for the spineless prick.

I just hope that the fans will think twice before doing anything stupid. And, in the end, if they get canned for some bullshit, I hope they go out in a blaze of glory.

"Your mom's box!"

[LtRev]

-Homeless shopping spree : One of the homeless gentlemen (most likely Jose) becomes irate with a store manager who asks them to leave. A physical confrontation breaks out and merchandise at the store is smashed and the manager is 'very injured'... the manager files a lawsuit against XM for damages, at which point the media picks up on it, etc. etc"

First off, let the store Sue, it the particular undomiciled person in question did, infact have United States Currency in his or her pocket and was able to purchae the item in question and insoecting it for purposes of said purchace and the owner asked them to leave based on the grounds that the individual was undomicilled alone then there'd be a discrimination lawauit. While the store is privetly owned and has some restrictions and the owner can ask anyone to leave it' still a public place and ALL people are eintitled to the same protection from discrimination.

"-Money Snatch: Some girl develops a severe gynecological problem from shoving money up her pussy, and sues XM for damages and medical bills... she informs the press, hoping they take they sympathy angle... etc. etc."

This is why she signs a waiver acknowledging that she is aware that their are risks inherent to this game and she chooses, of her own free will to participate anyway.

"-Danny as the newsboy - He show's the pics of her tits to some kid who's 17....a parent finds out and presses charges, not to mention the media picks up it... the paper reads "two radio DJ's show pornographic pictures to child"

This isn't really that big of a deal, and as long as the people are screened they'll be fine regardless.

[LtRev]

An air horn on the street is no big deal, it's a public street and as long as you don't physically touch someone, there is not a lawyer in the land that can do a fucking thing about it as long as the behaviour is not "life threatening". Most courts do not have the docket space to deal with bullshit nuisance suits involving a fucking reporter on the street and an air horn. Cases brought to court of this nature piss judges off to no end as it should. A case of this nature brought to the courts would be thrown out on it's ass at it's first reading if it even got that far.

That's not entirely true, while it is a publi public place, certqain things are still ilegal. If the hearing was damaged, the it most certainly is ilegal, whether or not it takes place in a public forum. A person has a right to expect to be in a public place uninjured. Minor annoyance, shouting or whatnot is all fine, but it all crosses the line when someone's well being is affected.

[OnePremier]

Anything done in-studio is pretty safe, thanks to Master Po's 9 pages of paperwork.

You're actually right... I never thought of that...

Pretty much everything in studio after November 23rd 2004 (wait, what?) is gonna be safe with a stack of paperwork an inch thick, that I'm sure can fill up any legal loophole...

But it is the media blitz that will get them in trouble I realize... not the actual charges filed. The motherfuckers at the news can skew anything... once that goes out, the wrong people get word of it... threaten boycott's against XM sponsers, yadda yadda yadda, next thing you know Our boys are out on their ass again. To think that they were even close to getting canned for a fuckin pest with an airhorn is truly unbelievable... hence my fear.

[JSHAW]

XM was the place to go for safe uncensored radio, but if they were close to firing someone for this then xm isnt sh*t. i was very suprised that it was even an issue. they must remember that we pay for this, if they are going to be a pussy roll over company then they are finished.

There's a difference in the broadcasts that O&A do and some idiot that sounds an airhorn in the ear of a reporter. Like Anthony said the studio is a "controlled" environment. Outside the studio where O&A have no contol of an overzealous fan, that to me has nothing to do with making the show boring.

The show is what I want to listen to. The AOTM bit provided them with additional material to talk about but I'm really not worried about the boys not having enough things to discuss.

Take today's show for example, Anthony's drive in to show, really good stuff.
Once Anthony got into his seat he was right back in the saddle and the show took off with discussing the plane that ran off the runway and progressed from there. They didn't and don't need the AOTM material to make the show more gooder.

O&A and Jimmy are talented enough that they shouldn't have to depend on things "outside the studio" to add material to the show.

[Chuckyarla]

In reality I think you are all looking at why there was risk with these assaults. For XM to be succesful it needs content and the ability to promote itself. A large amount of potential content is owned and/or controlled by a few major multi-media corporations. For instance the assault in question was against New York channel's 7 which is ABC. ABC and disney are one company. Antagonizing ABC risks the relarionship for content and promotion. Yes, they may still be able to get the content, but not as favorable terms.

What was at risk was corporate relationships more than pure legal risk.

[Kool Aid]

I don't care, I am going to enjoy every day that I listen and if they get canned, I will listen to something else. We all fuck up things in our lives, we have to suck it up and go on..."I don't have to do anything but stay black and die" Crazy Joe Clark--

[snakeeyes]

The thing to remember, is this is the first real trouble the boys have gotten into so far. (Or at least trouble we are allowed to mention http://img500.imageshack.us/img500/8827/censored4uy.gif ) Everyone needed to see how this played out, and as far as being "at the edge of the cliff" , as E-Lo said, I believe that was a knee-jerk reaction, but I am just the outsider who knows nothing. Im glad to see this is over for now, and you are right, Twigger: Safe O&A = Boring O&A :clap:
First there have been a couple of incedents that they have gotten in trouble over. They just usually drop it and never mention anything about it again. Think of all those things that make you go,"Hey whatever happened with.........." Ya.
The show we dont talk about is a good example.

And as far as knee jerk reactions go- thats usually the way corporate America thinks. Just make the problem dissapear and the problem,well, it dissapears.

[offacue]

Just hold up some big-ass signs whenever there is a live shot anywhere...you don't have to say anything to get the word out...I know the pests are creative motherfuckers...lets see some art.:clap::clap:

Sorry for the late quote....

I say, pester the live shots but don't mention the show. Lots of people do, I see it all the time. Just do it a little more than the everyday guy. They'll get the idea.

[PatFromMoonachie]

WNBC news in N.Y. just did a report on Satellite Radio and when listing the different lineups, that cocksucker Asa Arons didn't mention O&A after plugging Hoo hoo!

....payback for AOTM's??

[SmokeyMcPot]

what about this siht with attacking howard's rally thing. ive been reading sfn and there is inevitably going to be a fist fight. like its pretty much a definent. especially with o&A fans calling angry black the N word and shit. plus the howard fans are ready to brawl. now ive heard people use the dumb logic that it will make howie look bad cuz his fans are mean or something. what its gonna do is look like o&a causing more trouble sending their fans to purposely disrupt shit. but hey im no ones mom so if anyone wants to take the chance of going into a pack of rabid howie fans and end up arressted or punched..go right ahead...if a riot breaks out and o&A get in ttouble im gonna be pissed at u army folks

[SmokeyMcPot]

i also think u r to be outnumbered 10 to 1 at least

[LornPorn]

Does anyone else freak out when the show opens and you just hear the O and A theme music and no body speaking, wondering if they have been fired today? like today, it took Opie a minute to say something - that really scares me, because I wonder everytime if I'm gonna hear my boys and wonder what the fuck has happened now?
Hey, just got the new O and A long-sleeve shirt - representing here in Washington State for the boys - even had a person stop and ask about it, so the VIRUS IS SPREADING!

[Chuckyarla]

WNBC news in N.Y. just did a report on Satellite Radio and when listing the different lineups, that cocksucker Asa Arons didn't mention O&A after plugging Hoo hoo!

....payback for AOTM's??

quite possibly

[xearpm]

ok i am new. what is s4s3 anyway??????:action-sm :action-sm

[Garyisajoke]

XM firing O&A would be the dumbest fucking move possible and if you believe that they would have done it this week (ie. a month before Stern moves to Sirus) and get rid of XM's only legitimite alternative to Stern - you're out of your fucking mind... especially when the promotions are just finally kicking in. I'm sure O&A were afraid and I'm sure XM made it seem to O&A and the fans that it [being fired] could have happened, but it would be a disastrous move for them. XM played the part, made the TV station see that there would be repercussions to cool them off, but come on...

As for paranoia - the reason O&A got fired last time was because of fans. This time they were in trouble because of a fan. If you don't want to be paranoid, calm down when you're representing the show on the streets. It's the overzealous pests (I'm not generalizing here, just talking about the ones who take it too far - pests are great for the show.) O&A aren't stupid and know what will get them fired - but they can't control the stupid fuck on the street with an air horn. You guys are fucking awesome and you do great work for the show just keep your heads. You're never bigger than the show and the minute you try to be, it spells trouble for the boys.

Oh and as for Safe O&A = Boring O&A... the bit with the tourettes comic was safe and I was laughing my ass off.

[OnePremier]

what about this siht with attacking howard's rally thing. ive been reading sfn and there is inevitably going to be a fist fight. like its pretty much a definent. especially with o&A fans calling angry black the N word and shit. plus the howard fans are ready to brawl. now ive heard people use the dumb logic that it will make howie look bad cuz his fans are mean or something. what its gonna do is look like o&a causing more trouble sending their fans to purposely disrupt shit. but hey im no ones mom so if anyone wants to take the chance of going into a pack of rabid howie fans and end up arressted or punched..go right ahead...if a riot breaks out and o&A get in ttouble im gonna be pissed at u army folks

Well O&A have said REPEATEDLY that they want it to be peaceful. I think if shit breaks out they'll be able to pin it on Howie's fans, easily, especially with all the tapes of Opie reiterating the fact that he wants it to be PEACEFUL.

[OnePremier]

XM firing O&A would be the dumbest fucking move possible and if you believe that they would have done it this week (ie. a month before Stern moves to Sirus) and get rid of XM's only legitimite alternative to Stern - you're out of your fucking mind... especially when the promotions are just finally kicking in. I'm sure O&A were afraid and I'm sure XM made it seem to O&A and the fans that it [being fired] could have happened, but it would be a disastrous move for them. XM played the part, made the TV station see that there would be repercussions to cool them off, but come on...


Yeah I never thought they would actually be fired... but it's the fact that they came so close to it for something so insignificant was my beef.

[JSHAW]

what is s4s3 anyway??????

Sex for Sam 3, the contest that got O&A fired from WNEW.

[WoodenPlank]

I kinda think that if the knee-jerk reaction HAD gone farther than it did, it would have led to a suspension, NOT firing. As someone else said, XM would be suicidal to totally off the one act they have to rival the Hoo Hoo (rival my ass, more like beat the living shit out of) on the doggy company. Personally, I would not be surprised if the loss of O&A resulted in the loss of as much as 10% of XMs subscriptions. Maybe thats overblowing it, but it also would NOT surprise me at all.
Also, I imagine most of the non-studio O&A bits are pretty well legally covered if the bbboys are directly involved. If not, then the bboys should have plenty of deniability in terms of liability unless they explicitly said on air it was something they wanted. The counter-march on Hoo Hoo is an example of a potential problem, but as long as the Army doesnt start shit everything should be fine. Retaliation for howeis fans starting shit is a different story, though....

RAMOOOOOON! Bring me a Hoo Hoo fan with the balls to start a fight!
(5 hours later) RAMOOOOON! What do you mean, they dont exist?!

[mascan42]

ok i am new. what is s4s3 anyway??????:action-sm :action-sm
Do a Google search for "anal sex", "St. Patrick's Cathedral" and "shock jocks". :icon_mrgr

[WoodenPlank]

Quick answer is "Sex for Sam 3", I believe.

[jules]

i also think u r to be outnumbered 10 to 1 at least
oh really? u sir are a howie fan,and u have my condolences.

[D.H. Jenkins]

Anyone ever hear the phrase "any publicity is good publicity"? This little idiom is especially true when it comes to the emerging goodness that is satellite (XM) radio.

Since the FCC has no jurisdiction, and there are no big-time advertisers (coke, sony, etc...) connected with O&A, there will be no pressure to get them fired - period. XM is the HBO of the radio world - some programming will piss people off, but that's just too fucking bad.

As far as lawsuits go, pests aren't even classified as volunteers, let alone employees - they aren't under the control of XM, therefore (in all but the most extreme circumstances) XM can't be held liable for their actions. XM is no more legally responsible for the airhorn incident than they would be if someone shot hoo-hoo and said "I did it for O&A".

The only person who's legally responsible for the airhorn thing is guy who CHOSE to do it - and he should be rewarded, not thrown under a bus.

Face it - the boys have been screaming for months about the media lying about who was 'first in space' with no effect; THIS could be the thing that sets the record straight, once and for all. It could even steal away a good chunk of media attention from hoo-hoo's transition, especially if AOTMs continue; the story would be too good to pass up. "Out-of-control fans now pulling stunts for NO prizes" has a nice, sensationalistic ring to it.

[ChrisH]

As far as lawsuits go, pests aren't even classified as volunteers, let alone employees - they aren't under the control of XM, therefore (in all but the most extreme circumstances) XM can't be held liable for their actions. XM is no more legally responsible for the airhorn incident than they would be if someone shot hoo-hoo and said "I did it for O&A".

The only person who's legally responsible for the airhorn thing is guy who CHOSE to do it - and he should be rewarded, not thrown under a bus.


Where and when did you get your J.D., sir? I'm not saying it would happen, but the fact that O&A (and XM) were not only encouraging AOTMs (yes, as per their rules not to touch, etc., but still encouraging them) and were rewarding the efforts with bounties (myfis, etc.) could be construed as aiding and abetting the tortious activity of a pest if a jury could find that it was "Reasonably forseeable" that the complained-of activity would happen, and the guys (and XM) could be considered joint tortfeasors (assuming they met the elements of aiding and abetting under either NY or NJ law). Is it reasonably forseeable that a pest would use an airhorn? Probably (given how the guys talked about it before). Is it reasonably forseeable that an airhorn could cause permanent hearing damage? Yep.

Not saying the guys are on the hook, but the fact that non-XM employee pests commit torts (or crimes) in no way means that the guys or XM are 100% free from any sort of liability.

Now go get your f'ing shinebox. :action-sm

MODS: Please feel free to delete this post if you think it draws too much negative spotlight to the issue. I won't mind (sniff sniff). :icon_wink

[Stormrider666]

There's a difference in the broadcasts that O&A do and some idiot that sounds an airhorn in the ear of a reporter. Like Anthony said the studio is a "controlled" environment. Outside the studio where O&A have no contol of an overzealous fan, that to me has nothing to do with making the show boring.

The show is what I want to listen to. The AOTM bit provided them with additional material to talk about but I'm really not worried about the boys not having enough things to discuss.

Take today's show for example, Anthony's drive in to show, really good stuff.
Once Anthony got into his seat he was right back in the saddle and the show took off with discussing the plane that ran off the runway and progressed from there. They didn't and don't need the AOTM material to make the show more gooder.

O&A and Jimmy are talented enough that they shouldn't have to depend on things "outside the studio" to add material to the show.



Bravo sir. You know there is alot people talking alot a shit, about how oh its no big deal about the airhorn in the ear. Or how this is just an example of the civil suits in this country being out of hand(which is true, but is not really conncected to this story). But I know these same people, where sitting there on Wednesday with the same feeling in their stomach that I, other fans, and the boys had. The show will continue to be funny, but it will also have start getting smart and being careful about which fans represent the show.

[WoodenPlank]

Its hard to control WHAT fans represent the show. Shit, people that hate O&A could do shit in the name of the bboys just to try to get them in trouble. Theres not really anything they can do about it, unfortunately. However, the real loyal fans should be careful with what we do to make sure we dont land the bboys in trouble.

[FreeTheCricket]

In light of recent events, I'm beginning to wonder just how safe the boy's jobs are...

If they were so close (which im not sure if they were or not) to getting canned because of something a fan did, as insignificant as blowing a stupid airhorn too close to a fuckin reporter's ear... Does anyone see the inherent risk that as long as ANYTHING is taken out of the studio or involves the fans, our boys might be canned again?

The only reason I worry is because of the extrodinarily litigious nature of our society nowadays.... people will file a lawsuit for damn near anything...

Let me pose a few scenarios for you...

-Homeless shopping spree : One of the homeless gentlemen (most likely Jose) becomes irate with a store manager who asks them to leave. A physical confrontation breaks out and merchandise at the store is smashed and the manager is 'very injured'... the manager files a lawsuit against XM for damages, at which point the media picks up on it, etc. etc.

-Money Snatch: Some girl develops a severe gynecological problem from shoving money up her pussy, and sues XM for damages and medical bills... she informs the press, hoping they take they sympathy angle... etc. etc.

-Danny as the newsboy - He show's the pics of her tits to some kid who's 17....a parent finds out and presses charges, not to mention the media picks up it... the paper reads "two radio DJ's show pornographic pictures to child"

Anyone see what I mean? I might just be paranoid... to see how close we were to losing O&A again because of something so insignificant... scenarios like these aren't beyond the realm of imagination.

Then again, this might be like pullin your kid out of school for fear that he might get plugged by another disgruntled student on a shooting spree... something you shouldn't worry about because it's unpreventable (odds are astronomical... to try and avoid it does more harm than good, etc.)

Maybe I'm just talkin out my ass... I probably am...

yeah... I'm just talkin out my ass.


While I agree that any of those scenarios would certainly be a bad thing, we are all forgetting some things.

1) This is satellite radio. All the rules that they boys had to follow before no longer exist. They are rewriting those rules.

2) They have E-lo in their corner. No, really.. he really is in their corner. This isn't like the corporate world of Infinity of Clear Channel, where they had bosses who were "with" them, but in the end, sold out to the advertisers.

3) This ties into the first 2. Satellite is NOT driven by advertising dollars. They are driven by subscriptions. If O&A (or some pest) do something stupid, it will most likely help the boys out. You know what they say.... "Any publicity is good publicity". The more outrageous O&A get, the more subs XM will get. E-lo knows this, the boys know this, and they are doing all the right things to gain XM as much publicity as possible.


I really don't think XM will fire the boys. It's a different medium, with different rules, and different motivations. O&A will leave when they want to leave.

Also - this latest "incident" was such a non-issue that I think it is almost comical how much everybody freaked out. I think O&A were a little jumpy from their past experiences, as were wackbag members. Meanwhile... E-lo was sitting in his office just laughing at the fact that people thought they might get fired for this. I think O&A learned alot about their boundaries and what XM will put up with from this incident.

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ohh Scintillating comeback
Thanks, I thought so too. :icon_mrgr

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I really don't think XM will fire the boys. It's a different medium, with different rules, and different motivations. O&A will leave when they want to leave.

I sure as hell hope you're right. However, money talks and someone will surely pick up O and A if they get canned from XM.
I think that some of you are right on the money when you say that it's the media snowball effect that XM is worried about, along with the effect it would have with some advertisers. Opie and Anthony took all of the necessary precautions. It was all supposed to be in fun, and they said many times to not touch the reporter. Hell, they even told us not to curse. They deserve no repercussions whatsoever.

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If O & A gets fired, throw away the XM's & dump the stocks. I think XM's exec. are to smart to fire our boys. The stocks would drop & the doggie stocks will rise.

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Why are we even going here? The AOTM contest was getting idiotic anyway and the boys saw it that way. Why when we have some idiot trying to outdo everyone by submitting 5-6 AOTM's last month and someone calling the media in Boston area to stop Florelli's AOTM only meant that it had to stop. Someone was going to try to do anything to top them. It was idiots like that that ruined it all for everyone else.

As someone said before it was all just a knee jerk reaction as the execs all came from a corporate arena that jumped to a defensive reaction automatically when something like this happened and cooler heads prevailed when the realization came that it was nothing at all.

I could just see E-Lo coming in with his computer sheets with the boys numbers and the rest of the execs jaws dropping when they see how many subs the boys are responsible for. And then E-Lo reminding all that Hoo Hoo is coming soon and then the execs relaxing and laughing. It is a new corporate atmosphere and there are new rules and thank god te boys are pushing the envelope to see where the boundaries are. They now know the boundaries of the Idiotic pests that are selfish and care about themselves and not the others that will doo anything to serve themselves. They will be careful in this regard now.

If there is a lawsuit against the boys and/or Xm it can and will be exploited and the publicity from it will more than compensate for any money spent fighting it. Many people will want to see what all the ruckus is all about and want XM and the boys. If the boys want to get fired one day then they will and if the boys are not an asset to XM than Xm will cut them loose and us few that do not like the decision are not going to change a damn thing about any of it so stop whining bitches.