What will the Texans do with their pick?

[askewcore]

Now that we know Houston has the 1st pick, what do you guys think they'll do with it?

[tscho123]

even if the dont need him, they have to take him and eather use him or trade him away he is too valuable and in a trade they could get alot of the holes in there team like an o line

[weakside]

Being a Houston fan, I know the team has many needs and they are actually ok at RB but they can't pass up on this guy.

[rahrah]

take bush and trade him - fill holes

you will get amongst other things a 1st rounder next year - davis is a decent rb - bush will suck without an O line, too

[roche]

You don't pick what you need, you pick the best player out there.

[FreeTheCricket]

I bet they trade it. They don't need an RB, and they don't need the hassles of trying to sign the #1 pick. Who knows if Bush is even going into the draft. anyway?

[Jimmy's Dignity]

FTC....c'mon man we all know Reggie is as good as gone when the Rose Bowl ends. What I think is going to happen is that Houston has already started listening to trade offers and will go down to the wire before the pull the trigger. Bush is going to be a Herschel Walker-type of trade. If Houston trades him and gets anything less than 3 first round picks in exchange, they get fleeced.

Texans, Saints, Titans, Jets, Packers...that's the official order for the top 5. I say Leinart goes 2nd to the Saints...poor fucker

[GoatAss]

the Texans get bush, the texans get bush. Don't make a fucking maniac out of me.

[askewcore]

What I think is going to happen is that Houston has already started listening to trade offers and will go down to the wire before the pull the trigger. Bush is going to be a Herschel Walker-type of trade. If Houston trades him and gets anything less than 3 first round picks in exchange, they get fleeced.

I think they'll take him and then see what happens. A La the Chargers w/ Eli. If Houston can get a bunch of high picks or a couple high picks and a nice player I think they'll move him in a second, they need so much more help than just Reggie Bush can provide them. (and this is all in assumption he comes out of course, but you gotta assume that's gonna happen)

Texans, Saints, Titans, Jets, Packers...that's the official order for the top 5. I say Leinart goes 2nd to the Saints...poor fucker

He'll go to N.O. but I'm really not sold on Leinart, he's always had so much talent around him at USC and nothing he does ever seems really really impressive. Plus, he looks kinda clumsy back there. It'll be interesting to see what becomes of him.

[FreeTheCricket]

He'll go to N.O. but I'm really not sold on Leinart, he's always had so much talent around him at USC and nothing he does ever seems really really impressive. Plus, he looks kinda clumsy back there. It'll be interesting to see what becomes of him.

I'm glad somebody else out there isn't sucking Leinart's dick every chance they get. He has benefitted more than any other QB in the country by having the 2 best RB's in college football line up behind him. Everybody talks about Bush, but LenDale White is just as good. Plus, USC basically has an all-american at each offensive position. I have serious doubts about Leinart's talents, and I think his flaws will be exposed when he hits the NFL.

(Dammit - I can't stop agreeing with a fucking Yankees fan :arrrh: )

[UP TOP]

I hate to say that I agree with Jimmy Johnson on something football related, but they need to trade down. Eli Manning was worth two first round picks, a third rounder and fifth round pick thrown in as well, so you would have to think that stepping up to get Reggie Bush is at least going to cost you two first rounders (maybe split between this year's draft and next year's), and a second.

I remember watching a Texans game earlier this year (probably the only they showed nationally) and they said that Carr has had an average of 1.6 seconds to throw the ball, that's awful, and you can't overlook the amount of sacks (68 I think) that they're line allows. That's not something that you can skip over and say "yeah, but they got Reggie Bush". He'll have the same awful line to deal with, so that #1 overall pick (and the contract to go along with it) will be virtually wasted.

They need O-line help, and with the OT's expected to go in the first round they have their pick of some great frontline talent. Plus they could step down within the top 5 picks or so and still probably have their choice of every O-lineman in the draft, so why not add some more picks in the process?

I think the Jets could pull off a trade where they give them two firsts this year and maybe not have to cough up a lot of high round bonus picks. They have John Abraham to trade, and he's definitely worth a first round pick, especially to a team like Denver who has two first round selections this year. Or maybe they trade the Texans Abraham and their first. They need help on D as well, and he would be a perfect 3-4 "hybrid" guy for them.

[UP TOP]

I have serious doubts about Leinart's talents, and I think his flaws will be exposed when he hits the NFL.

He's basically Drew Bledsoe without the arm strength. He doesn't seem like he has a strong arm whatsoever, every pass is a floater. Maybe the smaller NFL ball will allow him to get a better grip and add some power to his throws, but I think that's basically wishful thinking at this point, not a good thing to base a possible top 3 pick on.

He reminds me of a taller Pennington. :icon_mrgr

[askewcore]

They have John Abraham to trade, and he's definitely worth a first round pick

No he's not. No one is going to give up a first round pick for a guy with so many injuries and off-field problems like he has. Not to mention that most teams dont like to part with early first round picks for players that already have alot of wear and tear on them. Plus, we're talking about the Jets here, they're bound to fuck something up. Look at their draft day trades for the last couple years, in 2003 they traded up to the 4th pick to take....DeWayne Robertson, he's done alot of nothing. Then they took Vilma without a trade which was a nice pick, then last year they traded their 1st round pick for....Doug Jolley, when they just have easily could have drafted the TE Heath Miller. Jolley didnt even get many snaps this year. I'm not sure what year LenDale White is in, and I dont feel like seeking it out, but if he's in the draft I think the Jets would be better off staying at 4 or trading down and picking him up if they want a RB, but dont forget, they also need O-Line help and this is going to be a very deep Offensive lineman draft.

They also need a QB because people are finally realizing how over-hyped and weak-armed Pennington is (not to mention that you want a QB who can actually play an entire season). Good call on Leinart being a taller Pennington though, although I think he's got better arm strength and less intellingence/accuracy as Chad.

[UP TOP]

No he's not. No one is going to give up a first round pick for a guy with so many injuries and off-field problems like he has. Not to mention that most teams dont like to part with early first round picks for players that already have alot of wear and tear on them.

I agreed with everything else you said, but he's definitely worth a first round pick, yes not an early first rounder (that's why I used Denver as an example), but still a first. He's missed some games and had some off-field issues, but so did Ricky Williams, and he was worth a 1st and a conditional pick the next year (ended up being another 1st I think). Abraham played a full season this year, 58 tackles, 10.5 sacks and 6 fumbles forced. Great year, one that you would lucky to have a mid-late first round pick to have. Maybe he (or even the Jets) doesn't fit into the Bush situation, I think they need more than him too, but Abraham is worth a first round pick to the right team.

Really the only team I think Bush is a perfect fit for is the 49ers. They have a pretty good line that they've bult through free agency and the draft over the last few years, Kevin Barlow, who would ligthen the rushing load for him (he's not going to be a 30 carries per game player, but will probably touch the ball close to 30 times per game through carries, catches, and maybe some returns), and Alex Smith is actually one of his best friends, they played high school ball together.

[tar_baby]

theyll pick him and trade prolly

[Jimmy's Dignity]

yeah, Up Top you're definately right...Bush does fit in best in San Fran. Houston needs waaaay too much in the way of help. Askew, I was thinking the same thing last year when he won the Heisman...I'd have given it to Adrian Peterson instead.

LenDale White is a senior, Leinart is a senior, Bush is a leaving Junior...USC is in for a rough one next year. I think they are also losing at least two of their WR's too

[askewcore]

I think they are also losing at least two of their WR's too

Steve Smith is a junior and Dwayne Jarrett's a sophomore, those are their two best WRs. So at least they got that going for em. Plus, I've heard good things about John David Booty, the other QB. Dont get me wrong, I hope they tank, cause I'm sick of them already.

[roche]

If Houston trades him and gets anything less than 3 first round picks in exchange, they get fleeced.

That will never happen. If anyone gives 3 first round picks for a RB they should be fired.

[Boratfan]

In my humble opinion...... here is the perfect scenerio.

The Texans trade their number one pick to SF 49ers for the niners 2005 and 2006 first rounder AND Brandon Lloyd.

The Texans use the pick to take D'Brickashaw Ferguson out of Virginia.

[ih8Uboo-boo]

You don't pick what you need, you pick the best player out there.

Ask a Lions fan if they agree with that...

I think that they trade him and try to build off that.


on john abraham... I hate to break it to you but Abraham will not fetch a 1st round pick... Willie Roaf, one of the best Left Tackles in the league was (arguably THE MOST INPORTANT position on offense) was traded for a 4th rounder...

[roche]

Ask a Lions fan if they agree with that...

The Lions problems went a LOT deeper than just picking a lot of WRs, if that is what you are reffering too.

[fandango86]

They SHOULD trade the pick to the Jets. The Manning trade provides the perfect template. The Jets have almost as big a boner for Bush as the Giants had for Manning, and the draft positions are identical. Like the Chargers, the Texans should wait until draft day to ensure that the player they want is still around at #4. That spot typically serves up the top OL/DL player available, which is exactly what they need.

The other alternative is simply take Bush and then trade Dominack Davis for a 4th round pick. Judging on recent history, this is about all he'd fetch. They have two capable backups in Morentcy and Wells, no need to keep an unhappy Davis as well.

Personally I think they'd be better off letting Bush and the hype and money go to NY, but this isn't exactly a franchise known for it's smarts, so my money's on them taking Bush and keeping him...Fucktards.

I also think the Saints will trade the #2 pick to the Titans, who will then take Leinart. No way do the Saints want to pay Leinart the contract he'll command with their unstable situation. A swap of picks with the Saints also getting Billy Volek seems like a reasonable deal for both teams. Volek can provide adequate veteren leadership while they figure out what their gameplan is. The Saints will then probably deal down for more picks to shore up their secondary and OL. My early guess for who will be super retarded and trade up for that pick is the Raiders, who will use it on useless Vince Young. That's just my guess, though.

[askewcore]

I also think the Saints will trade the #2 pick to the Titans, who will then take Leinart. No way do the Saints want to pay Leinart the contract he'll command with their unstable situation. A swap of picks with the Saints also getting Billy Volek seems like a reasonable deal for both teams.

I hadn't thought about that, but that's a really good idea. I wouldnt be surprised if that happened.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

In my humble opinion...... here is the perfect scenerio.

The Texans trade their number one pick to SF 49ers for the niners 2005 and 2006 first rounder AND Brandon Lloyd.

The Texans use the pick to take D'Brickashaw Ferguson out of Virginia.
ding ding ding...damn, that is a hell of an idea. I don't think Charlie Casserly is smart enough to pull that off though:icon_roll
I also think the Saints will trade the #2 pick to the Titans, who will then take Leinart. No way do the Saints want to pay Leinart the contract he'll command with their unstable situation. A swap of picks with the Saints also getting Billy Volek seems like a reasonable deal for both teams.That's another really good idea...Leinart would command at least Eli money the way contracts are constantly out doing the year before...How long till Benson moves the team to LA?

[Mindriot]

Reggie Bush would get killed behind that horrific Offensive Line they have there in Houston. They need an O-line.

[weakside]

If Houston trades down, they probably should not go any lower than "3". They should get two first round picks (this year's and next) and a Def. player. Then they can still get D'Brickashaw Ferguson at "3", improve their Def., and have two picks in the first round next year. This will be good for Houston because Bush is still an unknown commodity. There is no such thing as a "sure thing".

The NFL is praying Houston trade the pick to the Jets however. But the Titans probably have more to trade to Houston than the Jets do.

[EveryoneHasAIDS]

They'll trade Dominick Davis and draft Bush. Probably use 2nd/3rd round picks on O-line.

[TheBattleVirus]

Reggie Bush is such a talented player that the Texans would have to get a whole lot to justify trading away a chance to draft him. Bush will go #1, either to the Texans or the team to which they trade that choice. Will Leinert or Young go to the Saints? Whichever one goes there, if either, I'm guessing the other will go to the Titans at #3 since McNair is most likely gone after this season. Hopefully the Jets can do something with their pick. If only they had lost that last game.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

after watching the Rose Bowl...if Vince Young comes out, suddenly Houston has another choice to make.

He's like Michael Vick....only good. He might be able to stay alive behind that sieve they call an O-line down in Houston. Either that or he opens up a plethora of other trade options

[askewcore]

He's like Michael Vick....only good.
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[Jimmy's Dignity]

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