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Fr. Dougal
01-19-2006, 08:31 PM
J.D. says Winnipeg could come in and take the team. It might be nice to see a new Canadian franchise for a change... instead of them fleeing down here.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/hockey/nhl/penguins/2006-01-19-lemieux-sale_x.htm?POE=SPOISVA


Lemieux announces Penguins are for sale
By Joe Mandak, The Associated Press
PITTSBURGH — The Penguins are considering a handful of offers to buy the team, and keeping it in Pittsburgh will remain a priority but is not guaranteed, owner and player Mario Lemieux said Thursday.
A recent offer by a casino firm to build a new arena, an influx of young talent and the NHL's new collective bargaining agreement have made the time right to consider selling, said Lemieux and team president Ken Sawyer.

"We've had quite a few inquiries over the last few months," Lemieux said Thursday. "I think the timing was right to look at them and explore them and see what our options are. ... We've laid the foundation for the future and hopefully in a way that they'll stay here forever."

Lemieux and Sawyer, who is taking over Lemieux's CEO duties immediately, wouldn't identify the handful of interested parties. Most of the prospective buyers approached them before Isle of Capri Casinos Inc. offered last month to pay $290 million for a new arena, if the gambling firm gets a license to operate a slot machine parlor in Pittsburgh.

Lemieux has said the team would stay in Pittsburgh if Isle of Capri gets the slots license and that any new owner would be bound by that agreement. Isle of Capri must beat out three others seeking the license, which isn't expected to be awarded until later this year, at the earliest.

The Penguins' lease on 45-year-old Mellon Arena, the smallest and oldest facility in the NHL, runs through June 2008, and Lemieux has said the team could leave the city if it doesn't have a new arena by then.

Asked why he's not waiting to see if the Isle of Capri deal is approved before selling the team, Lemieux said: "I said before I'm not going to be the one that's going to move the franchise, and there's a possibility of that happening."

But Lemieux said the team isn't being shopped in an effort to move it.

"There's some (interested buyers) from out of town, but that doesn't mean they're going to move the team to Kansas City or Vegas or Houston or all the towns that have been mentioned," Lemieux said.

Lemieux and Sawyer wouldn't discuss the team's value.

Mike Ozanian, a senior editor who specializes in sports franchises at Forbes magazine, said the value of all NHL franchises has increased since before the lockout due to the salary cap. He estimates the Penguins are worth $100 million, but would be worth up to 30% more with a new arena.

But the promise of a new arena might not be worth the wait, Ozanian said.

"If you look at the Penguins, they're financially in horrible shape," Ozanian said. "How long do the current owners want to keep their investment tied up in a team that is not giving them much in terms of income or price appreciation?"

Lemieux said before the season that the team would lose $7 million this year, assuming the Penguins made it to the second round of the playoffs.

But the team has underachieved, despite winning the rights to draft rookie sensation Sidney Crosby and signing several free agents in an effort to build an immediate contender. Before the New York Rangers game Thursday night, the Penguins were 11-26-9 — the second-worst record in the league and 19 points out of a playoff spot. They changed coaches in December.

Lemieux and Sawyer said the team isn't being sold out of frustration with its performance or because state and local politicians have yet to come up with a deal for a new arena that was promised when Lemieux's group bought the team in 1999.

"I hope none of you expected Mario to own this team forever," Sawyer said. "He's done more than he should ... and he's teed this up perfectly for the community to jump at a great opportunity for this team to stay here."

The team filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in 1998, after running up $120 million in debt under former owners Howard Baldwin and Roger Marino. Lemieux's group bought the team out of bankruptcy and he further boosted its fortunes by ending his 44-month retirement in December 2000.

"He clearly extended the life of hockey in Pittsburgh," Ozanian said. "I strongly doubt that without his ownership interest and playing that you'd have hockey in Pittsburgh."


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Hoagie
01-19-2006, 08:38 PM
It wouldn't make sense to take a team out of a bad situation that has an avenue to make it a good situation with the slots license and move it to another bad situation with no hope. Winnipeg had a team, they lost that team, and anyone that thinks another team will prosper there for long deserves to lose $100 million.

PCLoadLetter
01-19-2006, 08:39 PM
*whew*

For a minute there I was concerned that they were selling actual PENGUINS. Now that would just be WRONG.

badcellphoneguy
01-20-2006, 02:42 PM
J.D. says Winnipeg could come in and take the team. It might be nice to see a new Canadian franchise for a change... instead of them fleeing down here.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/hockey/nhl/penguins/2006-01-19-lemieux-sale_x.htm?POE=SPOISVA


the reason why Winnipeg is going to be the odd on favorite cause they have a brand new 19,000 seat arena. Plus what makes it even more attactive is that there is also a minor league team there too in the moose. so if the pens move to Winnipeg they could swap affiliates from scranton to winnipeg and have their minor league team in their backyard just like the islanders and flyers. it was too bad they moved out of the old winnipeg arena cause i heard it was great place to watch hockey. too bad all of the old "barns" are gone. well the coliseium is left and the way the islanders play...it does smell like a barn.

later

badcellphoneguy
01-20-2006, 02:45 PM
It wouldn't make sense to take a team out of a bad situation that has an avenue to make it a good situation with the slots license and move it to another bad situation with no hope. Winnipeg had a team, they lost that team, and anyone that thinks another team will prosper there for long deserves to lose $100 million.

sexhogie your right about not moving the pen's. in todays sports world it is all about the ad's around the building, suites, club level and corporations. the reason why the jets moved from winnipeg was they couldn't find a local buyer for the team. also canada didn't want to subsidize a new arena. the new arena was built by outside sources. who ever goes to winnipeg will have a great situation.

later

HockeyHelmet
01-20-2006, 03:29 PM
The Penns. should stay in Pitts. but will see what happens. I dont see Winnipeg being a great option to move a team, maybe for expansion, but we do not need anymore teams. Keep them in Pittsburgh.

Fr. Dougal
01-20-2006, 04:58 PM
Problem is... the Pens DESPERATELY need a new arena. The Igloo is simply falling apart.

How many new stadiums have been built in Pittsburgh? Not one of them for the Pens. And they're the last pro team to win a championship there.

If the Pens stay, a new arena will have to be built... which will take 2-3 years. Who knows if they're willing to risk another 2 years in the Igloo when nothing's being done to maintain it.

Taso
01-20-2006, 07:30 PM
This "For Sale" sign has been put up plenty of times before. I dont even know what to think about this team anymore, I personally think they are managed horribly, I think once they clean up the top, everything else should fall into place.

All I know is, in the end, my team fucken sucks, now I know what it feels like to be a Mets fan.

timmy tonsils
01-20-2006, 08:20 PM
It wouldn't make sense to take a team out of a bad situation that has an avenue to make it a good situation with the slots license and move it to another bad situation with no hope. Winnipeg had a team, they lost that team, and anyone that thinks another team will prosper there for long deserves to lose $100 million.

Theres also been many of other cities that have had teams lost them and got new ones before, most of which are also doing well with a 2nd team. For example Colorodo and Atlanta. I personnally think it would work out for them and would be a wise move.

badcellphoneguy
01-20-2006, 08:32 PM
Problem is... the Pens DESPERATELY need a new arena. The Igloo is simply falling apart.

How many new stadiums have been built in Pittsburgh? Not one of them for the Pens. And they're the last pro team to win a championship there.

If the Pens stay, a new arena will have to be built... which will take 2-3 years. Who knows if they're willing to risk another 2 years in the Igloo when nothing's being done to maintain it.


you can thank SMG for that...the same company that has run the nassau coliseium into the ground.