Job interview

[mascan42]

One week after my recent sudden layoff (http://wackbag.com/showthread.php?t=32599&highlight=oce), I'm going in for an interview at Konica/Minolta tomorrow. And all sorts of last-minute shit is racing through my mind. For instance:

I went to the closet to get out my interview suit and I found that if I reach out to shake the guy's hand, my sleeve will go up to near my elbow. I haven't worn it in a couple of years. I've got to get a new suit quick.

I'm running through my list of questions in my head, and I have a problem when I get to the question of salary. All I can think of is Robert Vaughn in the Magnificent Seven asking in that southern drawl, "How much does the jawb peey?" And I can't keep a straight face.

[The Hole]

Im interviewing right now and i clam up everytime they ask about salary.

PS thanks for that image now every time they ask me about salary i am going to chuckle

[HummerTuesdays]

I'm sure you can find a suit fast, at least something that fits slightly better without alteration.

As for salary, it's always "negotiable." Go to MSN.com and look in there "careers" section. I'm sure you'll find an article or two on how to address that question.

[Bill]

Just tell them what you were making at your old job and that you are looking to maintain that salary.

[randall_flagg]

I'd suggest you say, "you're aware of the market and you're open to competitive offers" or something like that. The idea is to keep salary talk until the very end, when they're interested in hiring you. Some say it backfires, but if you're good enough and they want you bad enough, it works. If you just really need/want the job and are comfortable giving a $$ amount, then go for it - just realize you might be underselling yourself and they might try to undercut you, so I'd bump it by 5-10%. I always said what I wanted - never got the good offers. Tried the method I mentioned above and scored a 40k raise.

[Sajix]

Give a range. But depending on how desperate you are for a job, put the number you want in the bottom of the range, or if you're truly desperate put the number in the bottom 25% of the range. Also, counter them with a question on their salary, "What value is Minolta placing on this position given the current market?" or "Where does Konica see this position paying?" yada yada yada

[mikeybot]

Good luck.
If you have time, I'd say try hitting up a Men's Warehouse and see if their commercials are legit.

I get to start thinking about that later this year.
Unless someone just wants to give me a job working with UNIX or Oracle.

[Turtle]

One week after my recent sudden layoff (http://wackbag.com/showthread.php?t=32599&highlight=oce), I'm going in for an interview at Konica/Minolta tomorrow. And all sorts of last-minute shit is racing through my mind. For instance:

I went to the closet to get out my interview suit and I found that if I reach out to shake the guy's hand, my sleeve will go up to near my elbow. I haven't worn it in a couple of years. I've got to get a new suit quick.

I'm running through my list of questions in my head, and I have a problem when I get to the question of salary. All I can think of is Robert Vaughn in the Magnificent Seven asking in that southern drawl, "How much does the jawb peey?" And I can't keep a straight face.
My first job out of college was selling Canon copiers, its a tough business lots of cold calling and setting up demos. If you know somebody in that industry now give them a call and ask what new people earn.

[fmeinthea]

just walk in with your cock hanging out.

[Stalker Patti]

I am job hunting and I find that when I get asked about my salary requirements, the best answer is "Whatever the rate of pay would be for one performing in the position I would be applying for"

[ADD Theater]

Hopefully you've done your homework and know what that job usually pays. I'd give a range starting plus or minus 5-10% of what other folks are making (with similar experience and at similar companies).

[Turtle]

I am job hunting and I find that when I get asked about my salary requirements, the best answer is "Whatever the rate of pay would be for one performing in the position I would be applying for"
And how is the job hunt going Patti? Get a lot of offers with an answer like that ,do ya Patti?

[Jolie]

Hrm. I'm actually not allowed to ask about salary when I interview people, I'm pretty sure. Our HR people are allowed to in the screening process, but I am not allowed to base my decision on whether or not to offer a job on that piece of information, if I remember correctly, so I am not even really allowed to ask.

[YUCK FOU]

tell em your not expecting to be a millionare but pay me what i am worth...expsecially mention your long job history etc....

[JonBenetRamsey]

get on knees, suck the guy's cock and say "well, how much was that worth?"

[Smokezilla]

I hire my employees based-on cup-size. . . :rolleyes:

[fandango86]

Hrm. I'm actually not allowed to ask about salary when I interview people, I'm pretty sure. Our HR people are allowed to in the screening process, but I am not allowed to base my decision on whether or not to offer a job on that piece of information, if I remember correctly, so I am not even really allowed to ask.

I think this is true of most places. Salary rarely comes up in first interviews, unless there is a standard starting salary that the employer will throw out there for informational purposes. If there is a formal application they may have a spot on that to fill out history and requirements. Generally speaking salary comes up when they offer you the job. Makes it very difficult to negotiate for the potential employee. Now you know you're throwing the job away if you get too greedy...So in other words Mascan, don't sweat that part of it, and good luck, bro...

[Bill]

Hrm. I'm actually not allowed to ask about salary when I interview people, I'm pretty sure. Our HR people are allowed to in the screening process, but I am not allowed to base my decision on whether or not to offer a job on that piece of information, if I remember correctly, so I am not even really allowed to ask.

I never ask either. But I always know what their current or previous salary is by the time that they walk into my office because they have spoken to HR prior to my seeing them. While the person is being walked from HR to my office, I'm on the phone with HR getting background info.

Part of my decision on whether to offer a job or not is absolutely based on salary. I've worked hard at getting the salaries of my staff adjusted so that I'm completely comfortable that nobody is making less money than someone that they are better than. When I hire someone, I try to fit them into the department at the salary consistent with where I think they will fall in the hierarchy.

There have definitely been qualified people that I didn't hire because their current (or previous) salary is above what I am willing to pay. If the person is out of work at the time that I interview them, I will recommend that HR make an offer at the salary that I think is fair, even though it will be a cut in pay for them. But I will only do that if the cut is not more than $5K or so. Otherwise, that person will continue looking for another job while they are working for me. I don't need that.

[jscully]

I can't remember where I heard it, but The First Person to Quote Price Loses...just keep turning the question back to the interviewer.

[Lambo]

One week after my recent sudden layoff (http://wackbag.com/showthread.php?t=32599&highlight=oce), I'm going in for an interview at Konica/Minolta tomorrow. .
i know some peoplw at konica/minolta, lemme know if u need any assistance

[Jolie]

I never ask either. But I always know what their current or previous salary is by the time that they walk into my office because they have spoken to HR prior to my seeing them. While the person is being walked from HR to my office, I'm on the phone with HR getting background info.

Part of my decision on whether to offer a job or not is absolutely based on salary. I've worked hard at getting the salaries of my staff adjusted so that I'm completely comfortable that nobody is making less money than someone that they are better than. When I hire someone, I try to fit them into the department at the salary consistent with where I think they will fall in the hierarchy.

There have definitely been qualified people that I didn't hire because their current (or previous) salary is above what I am willing to pay. If the person is out of work at the time that I interview them, I will recommend that HR make an offer at the salary that I think is fair, even though it will be a cut in pay for them. But I will only do that if the cut is not more than $5K or so. Otherwise, that person will continue looking for another job while they are working for me. I don't need that.

The problem with doing something like that is that you do not know the situation they are in. They may have made $60K at their past job, and you can only offer $50, but for all you know, your company is viewed by the potential candidate as the more stable of the two, or the benefits are better, or its closer to home, or they hate their current job soo much they may be willing to take a $10K cut in pay.

Thats why salary should not factor in really during the interview process. If they are qualified and interested, why should I make the decision for them on whether or not they will take less pay to come work for me?

Our HR people do the screening initially, and we don't get their salary info initially. Later, if we really want them, then we start working with HR to determine what we can offer.

[MetalSign]

The problem with doing something like that is that you do not know the situation they are in. They may have made $60K at their past job, and you can only offer $50, but for all you know, your company is viewed by the potential candidate as the more stable of the two, or the benefits are better, or its closer to home, or they hate their current job soo much they may be willing to take a $10K cut in pay.

Thats why salary should not factor in really during the interview process. If they are qualified and interested, why should I make the decision for them on whether or not they will take less pay to come work for me?

Our HR people do the screening initially, and we don't get their salary info initially. Later, if we really want them, then we start working with HR to determine what we can offer.

Welcome back. Hadn't seen you on here in a while.

[mascan42]

I'm off to my interview. I'll let you guys know how it goes.

[Bad Salmon]

I thought I just read somewhere that Konica is closing down, or was it just the camera division? Something about Nikon buying too.
Anyway, best of luck at the interview.

[Glenn Dandy]

Are they Jewish? Just tell them youll pay them to work there and they should hire you.

Otherwise theres sites all over that will tell you what a basic salary is in your field... Use that and go up or down depending on if you are a tool or a great employee in you own observation.

As far as a suite? If your a lil guy... GOODWILL has awsome suites complpete for 9.99... I usualy can even find one there and im kinna big.. I just buy a nice shirt retail and get the suite from GW send it to the cleaners and bam! 50 buck suite.

[Jolie]

Welcome back. Hadn't seen you on here in a while.

Thanks. But I never left. I just rarely see anything worth responding to anymore :-)

[JoeyDVDZ]

What kind of suite do you wear, Glenn? Office XP, a suite of rooms at the Le Parker Meridian, hmm?

[mascan42]

Just got back. Looks like I may have the job.

Anytime I go on an interview, they always seem to be impressed by the little things. For instance: when I worked for Pitney Bowes/Imagistics, a lot of our copiers were manufactured by Minolta and sold under our brand with our own model numbers. They liked that I had experience on their machines, but were especially impressed that I had done the research and looked up the corresponding Minolta model numbers, so we would have a common frame of reference.

They still have a few people to interview. I should hear back sometime in the next couple of days.

And by the way Glenn, I wasn't worried about the cost of the "suite" :rolleyes: , but the fact that I wouldn't have time to get it fitted. Luckily, I had good dress slacks and shoes, so all I needed was a sportjacket, shirt & tie. What pissed me off is that my size is now a 46 regular . . . portly.:yuck2:

[mascan42]

I got the job. I'm going in Thursday to fill out some paperwork, and then I'll start work on the 20th.

[Bad Salmon]

Congrats!!!!:clap: :clap: :clap:

Gotta feel good:icon_mrgr

[flyerfan116]

Congrats Bro..thank you for not being a drain on society sitting back collecting unemployment and eating bon bons:action-sm

[Fr. Dougal]

I've worked hard at getting the salaries of my staff adjusted so that I'm completely comfortable that nobody is making less money than someone that they are better than.

That's my problem at work. I'm the best one there, and I'm making less than all the others in my same position... and I've been there 5 years. (Most anyone else has been there is 3.)

What happened though, is that I was promoted from a lower position... while everyone else came in at that position and were given the top level pay to convince them to work for us. (We're the lowest-paying shop in the city.)

Despite getting 5-15k less than them, I get just as much work, and twice as much shit from the uppers.

[25133WhooOoAH]

im a ZERO when it comes to job interviews i get so nervous and stutter and sound like a tool

[Bill]

The problem with doing something like that is that you do not know the situation they are in. They may have made $60K at their past job, and you can only offer $50, but for all you know, your company is viewed by the potential candidate as the more stable of the two, or the benefits are better, or its closer to home, or they hate their current job soo much they may be willing to take a $10K cut in pay.

Thats why salary should not factor in really during the interview process. If they are qualified and interested, why should I make the decision for them on whether or not they will take less pay to come work for me?

Our HR people do the screening initially, and we don't get their salary info initially. Later, if we really want them, then we start working with HR to determine what we can offer.

I missed this reply when it was first made. The types of conditions that you mentioned are typically part of the screening done by HR prior to my seeing them, so I have an idea about their situation ahead of time.

However, history has shown that even people who are willing to accept less often continue looking for work at other places. I'd much rather find the person who will do well here and like it for a long time, rather than have to interview again in 6 months.

Luckily, I haven't had to do much interviewing lately. Of the 12 people who currently work for me none have been here less than 4 years. Most are in the 10 year range.

[Jolie]

That's my problem at work. I'm the best one there, and I'm making less than all the others in my same position... and I've been there 5 years. (Most anyone else has been there is 3.)

What happened though, is that I was promoted from a lower position... while everyone else came in at that position and were given the top level pay to convince them to work for us. (We're the lowest-paying shop in the city.)

Despite getting 5-15k less than them, I get just as much work, and twice as much shit from the uppers.

I feel your pain. I'm in the same situation. I know for a fact another manager who was brought in after me (1.5 years after) is making at least 4K more than me. He does have a masters degree, but I think my extra 1.5 years of managerial experience should equal that. I'm not supposed to know that hes making more than me, though, because its taboo to talk about salaries here.

Anyway, I am getting around it by looking for another job. My pension vests in 3 months and 14 days and then hopefully I can take the money and run.

[Fr. Dougal]

I'm already vested... but the problem is that most other shops are only hiring freelance. And they're more uppity. At least at my current place, it's jeans and t-shirts. (Although we have no shortage of Cunty McCunts.)

[HummerTuesdays]

At my last job the ass hat working for me was talking salary with another coworker, and loudly. If that really was his straight salary (he had a tendency to exaggerate), he was taking home more than me including OT. I had 10 more years experience in the field, 3 years at the company, had passed the CPA exam, and I was his superior. I'm so glad I hightailed it out of there.

[Fr. Dougal]

I got yelled at once for talking about salaries in the open with other co-workers. And it ended with this being said in front of everyone: "If you don't fucking like the money you're getting... then fucking leave."

Yep... that's the kind of shit we have to deal with on a daily basis.

[invisible76]

I got the job. I'm going in Thursday to fill out some paperwork, and then I'll start work on the 20th.

Well done.

SO did they ask about salary in the interview?