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sd187
06-14-2006, 11:20 PM
seperated at birth: the cancer kazoo guy and jose valentin

Tickle The Bag
06-14-2006, 11:22 PM
seperated at birth: the cancer kazoo guy and jose valentin

I know right. That fucker looks like Valentine in like 11-12 years.

LilJimmyRbinson
06-14-2006, 11:38 PM
Congrats to all the Mets fans. I hope to see you in October. However, there's no way you're living this down. I know it's old, but the link is up so I have to post it.

http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/mets/ny-mets-newsong,0,7279509.mp3file?coll=ny-sports-headlines

MAVRIC305
06-15-2006, 12:10 AM
Really great pics, Tax.

And another one...

We are off the chizain! Let's hope we can finish it tomorrow!

LET KEEP IT GOING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mother Shucker
06-15-2006, 12:12 AM
PUT IT IN THE BOOKS.

This is getting fun.

I am going Friday, anyone else?

Towelie
06-15-2006, 12:16 AM
Break out the brooms boys


8 in a row would be nice way to finish the road trip off

Towelie
06-15-2006, 12:32 AM
We also tied a Major League Record with the 1939 Yankees for consecutive wins, all on the road, scoring in the first inning in each game


Nice

Only two teams in Mets history reached 40 wins faster: the 1986 World Series champions and the 1988 team that lost in the league championship series.


Oh, we have the best record in the majors...Thats cool too....

Norton's Hog
06-15-2006, 07:23 AM
Man, talk about a power surge! And we still have two guys named Floyd and Nady hanging around the bench soon too.
Everyone is contributing.

Pitching, power, speed, defense, veteran leadership, superstar youth, character, and confidence.
...did I miss anything?
:icon_mrgr

av8rOC
06-15-2006, 09:38 AM
Man, talk about a power surge! And we still have two guys named Floyd and Nady hanging around the bench soon too.
Everyone is contributing.

Pitching, power, speed, defense, veteran leadership, superstar youth, character, and confidence.
...did I miss anything?
:icon_mrgr

The fact that they have finally begun to go out and punish teams. Dont get me wrong, nothing bad about 1 run wins but up until this road trip they werent burying anybody. In my opinion its a sign of a championship team.

Norton's Hog
06-15-2006, 11:13 AM
The fact that they have finally begun to go out and punish teams. Dont get me wrong, nothing bad about 1 run wins but up until this road trip they werent burying anybody. In my opinion its a sign of a championship team.
Ha!
I can't believe I forgot to include that.

I actually wrote an e-mail to my Dad two days ago (saying the same thing).

I watched some great clips from MLB.COM of the chronologic monthly
highlights of the entire '86 season. The thing that I keep stressing is
character, and confidence(swagger), and this team now has them both,
much like the '86 team.

The '86 team didn't just beat teams, they finished them off by
slaughtering them. Remember all the bench clearing brawls they would get
into?

This team has the ability to be all that and more.

Kid Brock
06-15-2006, 01:28 PM
Not being a Met or Philly fan the most impressive part of last nights game on ESPN was Julio Franco ripping that ball off the wall. That thing took like 1 second to get out there.

Mother Shucker
06-15-2006, 04:44 PM
Not being a Met or Philly fan the most impressive part of last nights game on ESPN was Julio Franco ripping that ball off the wall. That thing took like 1 second to get out there.
That is because the wall in Philly is about 225 feet from home plate.

Kid Brock
06-15-2006, 05:15 PM
That is because the wall in Philly is about 225 feet from home plate.


Good point. What was there like 8 home runs the other night? Every damn new park was built for nothing, but home runs except the Padre's field where the players bitch they can't hit for power. Parks like Philly help make big contracts though because Hr numbers are inflated.

KneeKnee
06-15-2006, 05:31 PM
Insane! WHAT A ROAD TRIP!!!!

9-1, Burried the Braves and the Phillies!


LETS GO METS!!!!:clap: :clap: :clap:

IDontCare05
06-15-2006, 05:35 PM
How about the NY METS!!!!!


9-1 on the road setting a new MLB record of 1st inning runs in consecutive games with 8 straight wins.



LETS GO METS!!!!

Towelie
06-15-2006, 05:37 PM
Wow

9-1 Road Trip

Insane

Keep it up at home!

Maynard James K
06-15-2006, 05:41 PM
Nice!!!

Fred Told Me
06-15-2006, 05:46 PM
Once again the Mets will not be playing meaningful games in September. Because this division will be done with well before than, if it's not over already. 9 1/2 up, and home for the Orioles and Reds.

Bye Bye Philly.

Norton's Hog
06-15-2006, 05:57 PM
holy shit.http://capgraphics.net/Wackbag/Animations/Nortonshog/SMILIE-wank.gif

Budyzir
06-15-2006, 06:17 PM
All I know is that Im loving this shit! I wish I could be at Fridays game, the team better get a rowdy standing ovation when they take the field.

Towelie
06-15-2006, 06:19 PM
This makes me happy

A sellout crowd of 45,102 was the largest of the season and second-biggest in the three-year history of Citizens Bank Park. It included thousands of Mets fans who cheered loudly for their team. Philly fans finally drowned out chants of "Let's Go Mets!" with the familiar chant of "E-A-G-L-E-S!"

If the Phillies continue their losing ways, they'll have plenty of empty seats when the Eagles begin training camp next month.

Budyzir
06-15-2006, 06:55 PM
This makes me happy

A sellout crowd of 45,102 was the largest of the season and second-biggest in the three-year history of Citizens Bank Park. It included thousands of Mets fans who cheered loudly for their team. Philly fans finally drowned out chants of "Let's Go Mets!" with the familiar chant of "E-A-G-L-E-S!"

If the Phillies continue their losing ways, they'll have plenty of empty seats when the Eagles begin training camp next month.

Oh man, thats COOL !!!!

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

BTW, great sigpic!

Budyzir
06-15-2006, 07:52 PM
A friend sent me this;

http://milledgefacts.blogspot.com/

Its kinda a fun time waster.

Some of my favs;

8. Johnny Damon wishes he can have Lastings Milledge’s hair.
18. SNY has changed its call letters to LMNY.
19. A-Rod no longer has a crush on Derek Jeter. He is now obsessed with Lastings Milledge.
30. Jose Lima dyed his dreadlocks black in honor of Lastings Milledge.
42. Jim Duquette says he wouldn't trade Lastings Milledge.


Just a few, so far there are 504.

TheJerseyDevil
06-16-2006, 02:55 PM
Mets fans....celebrating....in June? Thats never happened. Stealing city from the Yankees? Last time I checked the Mets have trouble selling out home games.
Last time I checked the Yankees dont play in the NL Least and are in first place in a much better division, the Al East.
Just trying to stir some things up here, in good taste. The Mets are playing outstanding baseball but circlejerking in the middle of a season leads to bad karma. Ask the New York Rangers.

ChrisC_EIT
06-16-2006, 04:07 PM
Serious question.

Why would Mets Fan want a re-match of the 1986 World Series? I just find it odd that Opie *really* wants this.

Mother Shucker
06-16-2006, 04:11 PM
Off to Shea to welcome home my conquoring hero's. Skirt steak and marinated wings on the menu.

av8rOC
06-16-2006, 09:28 PM
Anyone listening to Ralph Kiner's guest spot here in the bottom of the 4th?? He is fucking HAMMERED! Its priceless.

Tickle The Bag
06-16-2006, 10:06 PM
Anyone listening to Ralph Kiner's guest spot here in the bottom of the 4th?? He is fucking HAMMERED! Its priceless.


That animal always sounds hammered. I would tend to lean more towards a medical issue rather then boozing. No way would he be allowed to booze everyday. He sounds fucked up every time I hear him broadcast.

Norton's Hog
06-16-2006, 10:34 PM
Anyone listening to Ralph Kiner's guest spot here in the bottom of the 4th?? He is fucking HAMMERED! Its priceless.
I think he either had a minor stroke a few years ago, or some other condition that left his face slightly paralyzed, so that's why he slurs now.
I love Ralph, but it's getting painful to listen to him these days.

------------------------

What the fuck is it with Heilman lately? He had a decent outing the last time, but the shitdick has been inconsistant for some time now.

I want that 20th game over .500, god damn it!!!

av8rOC
06-16-2006, 10:39 PM
Damn now I feel bad....

could have sworn he was shitfaced. I havent been able to hear much of him the past few years since I have moved from NY.

Norton's Hog
06-16-2006, 10:57 PM
Damn now I feel bad....

could have sworn he was shitfaced. I havent been able to hear much of him the past few years since I have moved from NY.
Don't feel that bad about it.
I've heard rumors for years about Ralph having a few during broadcasts, even before the medical condition.
Now it's just a lot worse.

Towelie
06-17-2006, 01:22 AM
Heilman needs some time to get his shit together

Use Felicano/Bell/Bradford in the 7th

If Heilman is this upset about not starting then deal him outta here

Fred Told Me
06-17-2006, 10:29 AM
I'd still take Kiner with a stroke and bombed over Fran Healy, Ted Robinson, Dave O' Brien, or Tom Seaver. God Do I not miss those clowns.

RobeSoup&Tears
06-17-2006, 09:06 PM
I know it's REALLY short notice but I have two tickets for tomorrow's game againt Baltimore. I'm at restaurant and am sending the with my Treo but if you PM me I'll get it notice...there're good seats on the first base side...no charge but right now I'm in the upper east side of manhattan and have the tickets...no charge for fellow Baggers....later
RS&T

RobeSoup&Tears
06-17-2006, 09:32 PM
I know it's REALLY short notice but I have two tickets for tomorrow's game againt Baltimore. I'm at restaurant and am sending the with my Treo but if you PM me I'll get it notice...there're good seats on the first base side...no charge but right now I'm in the upper east side of manhattan and have the tickets...no charge for fellow Baggers....later
RS&T

Anyone....

Mother Shucker
06-17-2006, 11:25 PM
Anyone....
Ah fuck, my vacation ends today, have to work tommorow. Just my fucking luck. Thanks for the offer dude.

Towelie
06-17-2006, 11:52 PM
Holy shit the NL is just getting flat out ***** in this interleague set

The sting of this loss isnt as bad since Atlanta and Philly both lost as well

The Marlins are playing outstanding right now for a team making less then 12 PLAYERS

Marlins: $ 14,998,500

1. Rodriguez, Alex-$ 21,680,727-New York Yankees
2. Jeter, Derek-$ 20,600,000- New York Yankees
3. Giambi, Jason-$ 20,428,571-New York Yankees
4. Bagwell, Jeff-$ 19,369,019-Houston Astros
5. Bonds, Barry-$ 19,331,470-San Francisco Giants
6. Mussina, Mike-$ 19,000,000-New York Yankees
7. Ramirez, Manny-$ 18,279,238-Boston Red Sox
8. Helton, Todd-$ 16,600,000-Colorado Rockies
9. Pettitte, Andy-$ 16,428,416-Houston Astros
10. Ordonez, Magglio-$ 16,200,000-Detroit Tigers
11. Johnson, Randy-$ 15,661,427-New York Yankees
12. Park, Chan Ho-$ 15,505,142-San Diego Padres

av8rOC
06-18-2006, 12:15 PM
[quote=RobeSoup&Tears]I know it's REALLY short notice but I have two tickets for tomorrow's game againt Baltimore. I'm at restaurant and am sending the with my Treo but if you PM me I'll get it notice...there're good seats on the first base side...no charge but right now I'm in the upper east side of manhattan and have the tickets...no charge for fellow Baggers....later
RS&T[/quo

Dude, thats super generous...wish I was back home! Thanks for the offer.

IDontCare05
06-18-2006, 12:44 PM
Cmon guys lets not get swept today.....Lets get at least one win here.....Whomever is going to the game today...I feel sorry for you...It's going to be 100 degrees out.

Jerry1
06-18-2006, 01:03 PM
I just wanna say this.....FUCK ANNA BENSON!!! Bitch!

Kris homers & Anna rants



BY ANTHONY McCARRON
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER


"It’s always nice to do well against your last team, especially with all that happened with the trade and since then," Kris Benson said of his return to Shea.


Anna Benson, wife of Orioles' pitcher Kris Benson, in the stands at Shea during yesterday's game against the Mets.

It couldn't have been a better return to Shea for Kris Benson if his wife had scripted it herself. And saucy Anna Benson, part of the reason her husband was shipped out of town last winter, relished it while watching from behind home plate before launching into one of her trademark rants.
With Met fans booing Benson and mocking him with shouts such as "Let's go, Anna," the ex-Met survived a shaky first inning and showed his former teammates he may have been able to help this season after all. Benson not only threw eight strong innings last night, but slugged his first career homer - off Pedro Martinez, no less - in the Orioles' 4-2 victory in front of 52,320.

Afterward, the ever-quotable Anna held an impromptu press conference in which she gloated about the Revenge of the Bensons and offered the Mets an adult salve to soothe the wounds of losing to Kris, the pitcher they dumped. Her proposal probably only reinforced the Mets' feeling they were right to trade the whole family.

"I am actually feeling generous," she said. "I was going to offer to send a case of K-Y Jelly down to the Mets' clubhouse. For as many guys that are prepared to use it. Give me a number."

Anna also clipped Shea, comparing it unfavorably with her hubby's new baseball digs, Camden Yards. She said she was out "puffing a cigarette" when Kris homered. "My brother-in-law, Kris' younger brother, came out screaming in my face that he hit a home run," she said. "Who would have thought it? I sat there the whole game and the only time he hits a home run, I am out there."

Kris' postgame presser had much less sizzle, though he was the one who did all the work, allowing six hits and two runs (one earned) and retiring the last 15 Mets he faced and 18 of the final 19.

"Very special for me to come back and pitch well against the last team you played for and of course all the stuff going on since, makes it a little more special to come here and perform well," Kris said.

Heck, this is a guy who barely grinned after becoming the first Oriole pitcher to homer since 1972.

While Kris (8-5) tried to be stoic, which is how several teammates remembered him, the Mets thought he probably was eager to beat them.

"It sometimes happens that way, when players get traded, they get pumped, they want to show them they were wrong or whatever," Carlos Beltran said. "We couldn't do much against him."

Willie Randolph remembered that when he faced his former team, it usually was an event. "You're really hyped and motivated and looking forward to what you can do to beat them," Randolph said. "I always had good games against the Yankees back in the day."

It was Kris' first start against the Mets since the trade that sent him and his wife down the Eastern seaboard to Baltimore. Talk was Anna's outspoken ways and low-cut Mrs. Claus dress at the Christmas party ruffled Met suits, so player and wife were dispatched for reliever Jorge Julio, who flopped here and was traded to Arizona for Orlando Hernandez.

Kris struck out three and walked one, throwing 70 of his 100 pitches for strikes. Baltimore closer Chris Ray, who hasn't blown a save all year, got the final three outs for his 18th save.

While he squandered a one-run lead in the first inning, Benson didn't let his bad opening inning bother him. Martinez pitched well in bursts, but couldn't hold down the Orioles. He was hurt by a sloppy fielding, including his own errant pickoff throw in the fifth.

Martinez (6-3) lost for the third time in four decisions. He allowed eight hits and four runs (three earned) in seven innings. He struck out five and walked one and hit a batter.

The Mets led 2-1 after the first and loaded the bases in the second, but Beltran grounded out to end the threat. "We let a good pitcher settle in," Randolph said.

The Mets were 1-for-9 with runners in scoring position, hardly clutch. The Orioles were worse at 1-for-12, but it didn't hurt them.

Benson led off the third with a 360-foot drive to left that Lastings Milledge leaped for but couldn't bring back and that tied the game at 2-2. Benson, who was booed each time he came to the plate, was serenaded with hoots, except for the loud cheers of one woman's voice. Wonder who that was?

"I am happy for Kris," Anna said. "It's a nice ending to this story."

God Damn Rich Cunt!

Well at least Anna and Chris will be free for October...cause I think the Mets already have plans....

RandomNY
06-18-2006, 03:44 PM
It is HIGH it is FARRR it is GOOONNEEEEEE a Grand Slam for David Wright!!!!!!

av8rOC
06-18-2006, 06:59 PM
Back on track.

Towelie
06-18-2006, 07:00 PM
Good bounce back win today

Especially with the Phils and Nats winning

And with the Marlins winning, ladies and gentlemen, the Atlanta Braves are now in last place by 1/2 game

A loss tonight will put them a full game back of the Marlins, in last place on June 18th

Wow

jrewing5
06-18-2006, 07:18 PM
Just came from the game. Good one for me and the Dad on Fathers Day!!

The crowd's chants of MVP for David Wright were deafening today. Eli Merrero made some HUGE plays, and the crowd was loving him. Also, got to see one of the strangest plays ever when the ball went up the Left-fielder's sleeve in the 7th inning.

Good time overall.

KneeKnee
06-18-2006, 07:39 PM
Just came from the game. Good one for me and the Dad on Fathers Day!!

The crowd's chants of MVP for David Wright were deafening today. Eli Merrero made some HUGE plays, and the crowd was loving him. Also, got to see one of the strangest plays ever when the ball went up the Left-fielder's sleeve in the 7th inning.

Good time overall.


I saw this on the replay, was a really freak play. Missed David's Granny, though; hopefully it will be on their webpage tonight.

Glavine first pitcherin the majors to hit 10 wins!

NICE!

Jerry1
06-18-2006, 07:49 PM
Was a good game at that. However next weekend marks the real test. Blue Jays, Red Sox and those pesky Yankees.
At least the Mets have built up a considerable lead in the division so they have some room to move. However, I hope Atlanta stays there but sometimes you never know with them. If they are in last place come September....then Atlanta is done. For the first time in 14 years.
Sorry to be so gloomy, I've been a longtime Mets fan and too many times ya know?

Tax Kuntz
06-18-2006, 08:03 PM
Another great game.
Eli Marrero is quickly becoming a fan favorite. Nice crowd.

took some more pics:

http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/5199/img00029lt.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/3976/img00091ix.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Glavine walks off
http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/8144/img00217tx.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

David Wright is safe on that interferance call
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/7113/img00328lo.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/401/img00335cj.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

We sat near the guys with the radar guns, scouts or whatever
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3900/img00254uo.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I got sorta lucky and had my camera in video mode
as Eli Marrero made that nice catch. It's not great, but kinda cool.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk61-JT7Idw

Tax Kuntz
06-18-2006, 08:15 PM
We also visited the Mets Hall of Fame

1986 Championship Trophy
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/5940/img00172rz.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

The Kid
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/3252/img00121ns.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Bob Murphy
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/6420/img00135fo.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5772/img00148na.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/2119/img00155du.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9629/img00199mt.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Norton's Hog
06-18-2006, 08:26 PM
Great pics again TK. I'm glad you got a win out of them today.
How funny was the "sleeve incident". The look on the outfielder's face was priceless.
http://capgraphics.net/Wackbag/Animations/Nortonshog/smilie-smokeup.gif

Tax Kuntz
06-18-2006, 08:31 PM
More fun in the stands.

The players wives/girlfriends were right next to us.
This one is interested in a certain Met player, not sure who.
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/7189/img00240bb.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/5152/img00317gp.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I tried:icon_lol:
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/1473/img00223vq.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

NoFilterPaul & Lee Mels (from paltalk)
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/350/img00275do.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/4908/img00307qf.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

A couple of other ladies I'm sure pretty are sitting with the wives for a reason,
including the one in the top right.
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7051/img00360zc.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

One more in game pic
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/7932/img00286el.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Lots of fun at Shea today. NFP was really funny,
and Lee Mels is really cool.

Mother Shucker
06-18-2006, 09:01 PM
Did that stupid limey understand the game?

Great pix again bro.

av8rOC
06-18-2006, 09:04 PM
Dude great pics and vid!

KneeKnee
06-18-2006, 09:05 PM
Good shit Tax, sorry I wasnt able to come. I owe you a game...

Tax Kuntz
06-18-2006, 09:14 PM
Great pics again TK. I'm glad you got a win out of them today.
How funny was the "sleeve incident". The look on the outfielder's face was priceless.
http://capgraphics.net/Wackbag/Animations/Nortonshog/smilie-smokeup.gif

Yeah hog, that was really funny. The whole crowd was laughing. I gotta see the highlights.

Glad you guys like the pics, and knee, I 'm ready whenever sir. :icon_mrgr

IDontCare05
06-18-2006, 09:52 PM
Man what a crazy game today....I couldnt believe it went up his sleeve and up his back...ha.

Hey did anyone else catch John Stewart....


All in all I thought it was well played out game....Wright again hitting when it is needed....

Glavine....well.......it wasn't his best, but the relief helped him out. Nice job boys.


Hey nice pics Tax....Yeah the upstairs with the trophies and the restaurant is awesome....Iv'e only been up there once. I'll have to show more pics here but larger too.

steamingpile
06-19-2006, 12:29 AM
The Mets have one decent first half and you guys are crowning them WS champs already? The pitching staff will let you down in the postseason, they have maybe 2 decent starters(assuming Pedro stays healthy) and a piss poor overpaid closer.

With that payroll they should be ashamed they havent won more.

Mother Shucker
06-19-2006, 01:04 AM
The Mets have one decent first half and you guys are crowning them WS champs already? The pitching staff will let you down in the postseason, they have maybe 2 decent starters(assuming Pedro stays healthy) and a piss poor overpaid closer.

With that payroll they should be ashamed they havent won more.
Ah, spoken like a complete douche bag. Go fuck your mother sir.

steamingpile
06-19-2006, 01:20 AM
Ah, spoken like a complete douche bag. Go fuck your mother sir.

Spoken like a true mets fan, idiots about the true state of their team. Look dickweed, its basically the same team you had a year ago yet they havent suffered major injury--yet. One groin pull and this team is back in 3rd place where they belong. But hey keep dreaming that you will win, I am sure that will make it better just like saying "Theres always next year"

Tax Kuntz
06-19-2006, 01:23 AM
Spoken like a true mets fan, idiots about the true state of their team. Look dickweed, its basically the same team you had a year ago yet they havent suffered major injury--yet. One groin pull and this team is back in 3rd place where they belong. But hey keep dreaming that you will win, I am sure that will make it better just like saying "Theres always next year"

Your screen name fits sir.

Mother Shucker
06-19-2006, 01:57 AM
Want to put money on it?

Go get your shine box.

Papagolash
06-19-2006, 02:08 AM
steamingpile, mother shucker stop with the member bashing. I don't feel like banning anyone today, don't give me a reason to.

Norton's Hog
06-19-2006, 07:52 AM
Spoken like a true mets fan, idiots about the true state of their team. Look dickweed, its basically the same team you had a year ago yet they havent suffered major injury--yet. One groin pull and this team is back in 3rd place where they belong. But hey keep dreaming that you will win, I am sure that will make it better just like saying "Theres always next year"
Wow, 11 posts and you are making friends fast.
Enjoy your stay at WB!

http://capgraphics.net/Wackbag/Animations/Nortonshog/SMILIE-sleepingpoo.gif

Ignore these trolling idiots that come in here just to start shit, fellas.
We know how great this team is, and dildos like this just prove that fact more and more.

steamingpile
06-19-2006, 01:06 PM
I was not meaning to bash anyone, just stating facts. Personally I know that Atlanta was going to suck this year and they should have stunk last year with all the new players or inexperienced ones.

Reality check, Met fans--what is so different about your team this year that wasnt there last year? I am being serious, not trolling, besides being healthy what is the difference?

Norton's Hog
06-19-2006, 01:21 PM
Yawn.
Go start a Braves thread if you're feeling lonely.

You have worn out your welcome here, and don't deserve a rational response.

------------------------------------


Moving along...

I found this article entertaining...
http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/9513886

THE BRAVES ARE DONE

1. It takes a brave man to be a Braves fan: This spring, I wrote a column stating that after 14 consecutive division titles, I'm not picking against the Braves -- they'll let us know when their NL East run is finished.


I'd like to thank the Braves for acting with the courtesy I predicted all along and ... letting us know.


Reading tea leaves can be difficult -- especially if you're acoffee drinker -- but the Braves couldn't make it more obvious if they suited up Dale Murphy, Zane Smith and held a reunion tribute to the 1988 club that went 54-106.


It's all over now except general manager John Schuerholz's concession phone call to his counterparts, the New York Mets' Omar Minaya and Philadelphia's Pat Gillick, and that might come as we move closer to the July 31 trade deadline.
Sinking in the muck of what could produce their worst month since moving to Atlanta in 1966, the Braves are 2-15 after a loss to Boston and have lost 12 of their past 14 home games.


Their bullpen is in the intensive care unit, the starting pitching is in the emergency room and the situational hitting is en route to the morgue.


And call all-everything John Smoltz (http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/players/playerpage/8074) the soothsayer.

"I'm not patronizing anybody," he told me this spring. "I just feel like the Mets are the team to beat, and the Phillies are right there with us."


Of course, we now know Smoltz wasn't 100 percent on the money, and all those who have accused the Braves of institutional arrogance over the years now have another point: It's the Washington Nationals and the Florida Freaking Marlins who are right there with the Braves -- the Phillies are ahead of them.


It has been a classic case of whatever could go wrong has gone wrong for Bobby Cox's club. The 14-year run was predicated on pitching, but Atlanta's staff ranks 15th in the 16-team National League with a 4.75 ERA. Only Milwaukee's pitchers, at 5.07, have been worse.


Broken down -- both figuratively and literally -- the rotation ranks 11th at 4.61 (its overall record is a woeful 17-31) and the bullpen ranks 15th at 5.01. Only Milwaukee's bullpen -- 5.14 -- has had a more difficult time.


Where the Braves were able to massage through the difficulties of closer Dan Kolb (http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/players/playerpage/21599) a year ago -- they demoted him quickly and used Kyle Farnsworth (http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/players/playerpage/21546) and Chris Reitsma (http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/players/playerpage/174939) -- they have not been able to solve the ninth inning in 2006.

Reitsma, who has blown four saves in 12 opportunities, landed on the disabled list Tuesday with nerve irritation in his right arm. It's his 9.11 ERA that has given irritation to others. So Kenny Ray (http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/players/playerpage/21682) supplanted him as closer late last month, Mike Remlinger (http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/players/playerpage/8006) has gotten a crack, and it has all added up to an excruciating 13 blown saves overall.

Meantime, Schuerholz was forced to add starter John Thomson (http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/players/playerpage/8130) (blister on his finger) to the DL, and Horacio Ramirez (http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/players/playerpage/212257) narrowly averted serious injury when he was drilled in the head by a Lance Berkman line drive last Sunday. Still, Ramirez wasn't able to start Saturday, and journeyman Lance Cormier (http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/players/playerpage/489774) immediately dug a hole in his place, surrendering four runs in the first four innings to help send Atlanta to its 16th loss in 19 games.


Then there's Jorge Sosa (http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/players/playerpage/288919), 1-9.


The virus hasn't just slammed Cox's pitching staff. Atlanta hitters recently rode a stretch in which they were batting .135 (10-for-74) with runners in scoring position. Part of the problem is this club's frequency of fanning -- heading into Sunday night's game, Atlanta hitters ranked 15th in the NL with 526 strikeouts. Only Milwaukee batters, at 533, had whiffed more.


Oh, and there's this: Defensively, the Braves have yielded 36 unearned runs, the third-highest total in the majors behind the Los Angeles Angels (49) and Cincinnati (39).
At 14 games behind the New York Mets, the Braves are the furthest they have been out of first place since the last day of the 1990 season, when they were 26 games behind Lou Piniella's Cincinnati Reds in the NL West.


Until now, the Braves' worst overall month since moving to Atlanta in '66 came in July 1986, when they went 7-19.


The way things look now, their 15-5 run in early May of this season might have marked the last gasps of the glory days.

Fred Told Me
06-19-2006, 01:55 PM
Reality check, Met fans--what is so different about your team this year that wasnt there last year? I am being serious, not trolling, besides being healthy what is the difference?

Ok let me see.

1. Carlos Delgado at 1st Base instead of Doug Mientkiewicz. I would say that is a slight upgrade.

2. Paul Lo Duca behind the plate instead of an often injured and deteriorating Mike Piazza.

3. Billy Wagner closing games instead of the always unreliable Braden Looper. Although Wagner has looked shaky at times, he is still far and away a better option.

4. Duaner Sanchez setting up instead of 40 year old Roberto Hernandez. Slight upgrade there too.

5. Tom Glavine pitching like the way he did when he was in Atlanta.

6. Solid contributions from the back end of the rotation ever since the Gonzalez and Lima experiment ended.

7. Jose Reyes learning how to take walks and get on base.

8. David Wright a year older and more experienced and playing like an MVP candidate.

9. Carlos Beltran has contributed slightly more this year as opposed to last year, wouldn't you say. With the addition of Delgado and emmergence of Wright, he doesn't have as much pressure.

10. Willie Randolph is getting more experience as a big league manager and not making some of the mistakes he made a year ago.

Do you want more? Because I can list more if you want. And the main difference for your Atlanta Braves is that instead of folding in October, they took care of that in June. Good. Now somebody will actually show up in October to represent the NL East.

av8rOC
06-19-2006, 02:02 PM
OOOOOHHHHHH oooohaaa ooooohhhhhhh

ohhhhhh

ohhh ohhhh!

Norton's Hog
06-19-2006, 02:21 PM
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YEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAWWWWW!!!!
GOD DAMN ATLANTA BRAVES! YESSIREE THAT'S MY TEAM, Y'ALL!!!!!!!!


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Norton's Hog
06-19-2006, 03:09 PM
http://capgraphics.net/Wackbag/Animations/Nortonshog/METS-cw1.jpg





Doob doob doobie doo, doob doob doobie doo....I'm siiiiinging in the rain...


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Maynard James K
06-19-2006, 04:53 PM
http://community.webshots.com/album/551271411NuUrrF/0

Found these on deadspin.com
Some random St John's girls with the Mets at a bar.

IDontCare05
06-19-2006, 06:41 PM
The Mets have one decent first half and you guys are crowning them WS champs already? The pitching staff will let you down in the postseason, they have maybe 2 decent starters(assuming Pedro stays healthy) and a piss poor overpaid closer.

With that payroll they should be ashamed they havent won more.


Awwww poor atlanta fan...


Please go in some other thread or start a Braves thread...these threads are reserved for teams above .500



thank you.:)

Budyzir
06-19-2006, 06:42 PM
http://community.webshots.com/album/551271411NuUrrF/0

Found these on deadspin.com
Some random St John's girls with the Mets at a bar.

Jeezz, what a life a ball player leads. I wonder how many of the chicks wound up with blue and orange DNA at the end of the night.

KneeKnee
06-19-2006, 07:05 PM
Spoken like a true mets fan, idiots about the true state of their team. Look dickweed, its basically the same team you had a year ago yet they havent suffered major injury--yet. One groin pull and this team is back in 3rd place where they belong. But hey keep dreaming that you will win, I am sure that will make it better just like saying "Theres always next year"


Why are you offering to pull people's groins???:action-sm

Mother Shucker
06-19-2006, 07:54 PM
Ok let me see.

1. Carlos Delgado at 1st Base instead of Doug Mientkiewicz. I would say that is a slight upgrade.

2. Paul Lo Duca behind the plate instead of an often injured and deteriorating Mike Piazza.

3. Billy Wagner closing games instead of the always unreliable Braden Looper. Although Wagner has looked shaky at times, he is still far and away a better option.

4. Duaner Sanchez setting up instead of 40 year old Roberto Hernandez. Slight upgrade there too.

5. Tom Glavine pitching like the way he did when he was in Atlanta.

6. Solid contributions from the back end of the rotation ever since the Gonzalez and Lima experiment ended.

7. Jose Reyes learning how to take walks and get on base.

8. David Wright a year older and more experienced and playing like an MVP candidate.

9. Carlos Beltran has contributed slightly more this year as opposed to last year, wouldn't you say. With the addition of Delgado and emmergence of Wright, he doesn't have as much pressure.

10. Willie Randolph is getting more experience as a big league manager and not making some of the mistakes he made a year ago.

Do you want more? Because I can list more if you want. And the main difference for your Atlanta Braves is that instead of folding in October, they took care of that in June. Good. Now somebody will actually show up in October to represent the NL East.



It has to be said:

Tell em Fred!

MAVRIC305
06-20-2006, 12:16 AM
Pissed. Just got back from the game. High and drunk. Pissed. I threw my voice away in the ninth yelling, "Let's Go Mets" before and even more after Beltran hit his homer. It sucks to go to a game like that... Arroyo handled us... :(

Once again, high and drunk. <-- took me a while to hit period, I was hitting <><><>, like WTF? I am good now, no mistakes typing. Almost between the Y and the P in "Typing" I almost just fucked up. But, I backed it ... Shit, I just double-spacebarred... Damn it! Okay, Peace.. I just typed "Pease" had to let yall know... Peace!

Towelie
06-20-2006, 10:54 PM
Nice easy win tonight

Delgado, TRASCHEL, Nady X 2 with dingers

Good work from Sanchez and Heilman

Stupid fucking Yankees really need to help us out tonight

Fred Told Me
06-21-2006, 12:28 AM
Stupid fucking Yankees really need to help us out tonight

Do they?

9 1/2 instead of 8 1/2. Doesn't matter, we clinched the division last week.

Towelie
06-21-2006, 01:34 AM
Anytime we can gain more ground is a good thing

I agree I feel the division is wrapped up, but there is still half a season to go, and we have a rough strech from here till we finish up interleague

LAX
06-21-2006, 01:46 AM
Whoa I dont know about the divison be wrapped up...I mean so far so good, but theres alot of basball to go....And I missed the game tonight but saw nady being interviewed after the game...was millage sent down?

Towelie
06-21-2006, 02:00 AM
Whoa I dont know about the divison be wrapped up...I mean so far so good, but theres alot of basball to go....And I missed the game tonight but saw nady being interviewed after the game...was millage sent down?


Nady replaced Floyd on the roster

Cliff is eligible to come off the DL tomorrow, but they dont want him to come back if he cant play the field, even when they are in the AL parks, he was supposed to run on it tonight to test it out down here in Port St. Lucie and he's going to play an extended spring training game or 2 and if he feels good they will activate him

Milledge could be up for another week, but when Cliff is back he's the odd man out

And check out his throw in the first inning to gun Freel leading off the game

Talk about a Cannon

Fred Told Me
06-21-2006, 11:35 AM
Anytime we can gain more ground is a good thing

I agree I feel the division is wrapped up, but there is still half a season to go, and we have a rough strech from here till we finish up interleague

I dont mind gaining the game on Philly, And was actually rooting for the Yankees to do so, which is a rarity. But to say we really need the Yankees to beat Philly is kind of an overstatement. We are in cruise control. And yes it's over by the way. The Mets are too good, and the Phillies aren't good enough to come back from this deficit. And those mighty Braves lost again and are now 14 1/2 back. It's over Johnny.

Towelie
06-21-2006, 04:11 PM
Looks like Milledge will be up for at least another week and possibly to till the All-Star break

FLOYD AILING: GM Omar Minaya conceded that Cliff Floyd is unlikely to return tomorrow, when the left fielder is eligible. Floyd, wearing a protective boot away from the field to guard his sprained left ankle, began running yesterday in a pool in Port St. Lucie. Whether Floyd will join the Mets this weekend in Toronto appears questionable.

I'd rather let him rest till the break, and then gradually let him slide back into the line up

With Endy and Woody there we have plenty of room to wiggle

Tickle The Bag
06-21-2006, 09:43 PM
Reyes 3-3 and only needs a single for cycle. What an animal.

Fred Told Me
06-21-2006, 11:19 PM
Now that's the Mets I'm used to seeing. I guess this feels a bit better being up 9 1/2 games.

MAVRIC305
06-21-2006, 11:29 PM
I am going to go deeper... FUCKING BILLY WAGNER! He had Brandon Phillips in an 0-2 hole. He shakes off Castro, and Phillips fouls one back SHARPLY... Castro most likely calls for a slider, Billy shakes him off. He throws another fastball and we are now down 6-5. What happened afterward? He strikes the next batter out on two straight sliders after getting the first strike on a fastball.

Do these douchebag closer's not get it? YOU HAVE TO CHANGE SPEEDS, ASSWIPE! Jesus Christ, trust your catcher! If he calls for a change-up, slider, whatever, he knows what he is doing. I never want to see Billy Wagner shake off a catcher again! ASSHOLE!

He is his own worst enemy, and in our case are worst enemy. We lose a game we should have won. We should be celebrating a win and a Reyes CYCLE! Fuck, this annoys me.

Mother Shucker
06-22-2006, 12:59 AM
That game blew horse cock.

Mother Shucker
06-22-2006, 05:22 PM
OK, much more gooder today.

Swamp CAve
06-22-2006, 05:38 PM
I love David Wright!






No Homo!

Budyzir
06-22-2006, 06:24 PM
I am going to go deeper... FUCKING BILLY WAGNER! He had Brandon Phillips in an 0-2 hole. He shakes off Castro, and Phillips fouls one back SHARPLY... Castro most likely calls for a slider, Billy shakes him off. He throws another fastball and we are now down 6-5. What happened afterward? He strikes the next batter out on two straight sliders after getting the first strike on a fastball.

Do these douchebag closer's not get it? YOU HAVE TO CHANGE SPEEDS, ASSWIPE! Jesus Christ, trust your catcher! If he calls for a change-up, slider, whatever, he knows what he is doing. I never want to see Billy Wagner shake off a catcher again! ASSHOLE!

He is his own worst enemy, and in our case are worst enemy. We lose a game we should have won. We should be celebrating a win and a Reyes CYCLE! Fuck, this annoys me.


Thank you sir for expressing my exact thoughts. "Furious anger" does not come close to what I felt last night

Towelie
06-22-2006, 07:43 PM
I am going to go deeper... FUCKING BILLY WAGNER! He had Brandon Phillips in an 0-2 hole. He shakes off Castro, and Phillips fouls one back SHARPLY... Castro most likely calls for a slider, Billy shakes him off. He throws another fastball and we are now down 6-5. What happened afterward? He strikes the next batter out on two straight sliders after getting the first strike on a fastball.

Do these douchebag closer's not get it? YOU HAVE TO CHANGE SPEEDS, ASSWIPE! Jesus Christ, trust your catcher! If he calls for a change-up, slider, whatever, he knows what he is doing. I never want to see Billy Wagner shake off a catcher again! ASSHOLE!

He is his own worst enemy, and in our case are worst enemy. We lose a game we should have won. We should be celebrating a win and a Reyes CYCLE! Fuck, this annoys me.



First off, David Wright doesnt pick up that ball it would have gone foul

Secondly: In 28.2 innings pitched with Lo Duca behind the plate, Wagner has a 0.63 ERA while averaging less than one walk and more than one strike out per inning…

In six innings pitched with Castro behind the plate, Wagner has three of his four blown saves and a 12.00 ERA while averaging just one strike out and more than one walk per inning…


Wagner is a better pitcher with LoDuca behind the plate, I'll be willing to bet 100 dollars there is a communication problem there

Who was catching during the Yankee meltdown? Yep, it was Castro

Keep Castro away from Wagner and all is well

Fred Told Me
06-22-2006, 08:19 PM
You cant blame Castro for Wagner's melt down. Besides Wagner kept shaking Castro off anyway. What do you want him to do. If Wagner is going to insist on pitching nothing but fast balls, he better get them over the plate. And besides if Willie kept Lo Duca in and he let another past ball go by, or couldnt throw out another runner, then there would be people talking about that. Wagner blew the game. Case closed. But theres no reason to get upset. They are 10 games up. No Harm. No foul.

Towelie
06-22-2006, 08:34 PM
You cant tell me that this isnt a telling stat:


In 28.2 innings pitched with Lo Duca behind the plate, Wagner has a 0.63 ERA while averaging less than one walk and more than one strike out per inning…

In six innings pitched with Castro behind the plate, Wagner has three of his four blown saves and a 12.00 ERA while averaging just one strike out and more than one walk per inning…


How is it not?

Maddux hated Javy Lopez
Randy Johnson hates Posada

Some pitchers dont like some catchers and its obvious that Wags prefers Duke over Castro, no biggy

Budyzir
06-22-2006, 08:35 PM
Respectfully Sir, Your first point;

First off, David Wright doesnt pick up that ball it would have gone foul

I gotta say that he was just reacting. In hindsight letting the ball go foul would have worked but, if you look at the angle he was playing it at, from his perspective, it could have been questionable. I think he made a solid defensive play based on what he saw at that split second.

As for your second point;

Wagner is a better pitcher with LoDuca behind the plate, I'll be willing to bet 100 dollars there is a communication problem there

Who was catching during the Yankee meltdown? Yep, it was Castro

Keep Castro away from Wagner and all is well

Freaking good observation!

Fred Told Me
06-22-2006, 11:54 PM
Has Wagner ever said anything about preferring to pitch to Lo Duca. Those numbers can just be purely coincidental. Some things you just cant explain. Don't you think if Wagner preferred to pitch to Lo Duca than Willie would have know about it and wouldn't have substituted Castro for Lo Duca.

Towelie
06-23-2006, 12:27 AM
Has Wagner ever said anything about preferring to pitch to Lo Duca. Those numbers can just be purely coincidental. Some things you just cant explain. Don't you think if Wagner preferred to pitch to Lo Duca than Willie would have know about it and wouldn't have substituted Castro for Lo Duca.


I think Willie was more concerned about the 3 balls that got by LoDuca earlier in the game at that point


But the numbers dont lie, coincidence or not

MAVRIC305
06-23-2006, 12:52 AM
OK, we can go that way. If Wright let's it go foul, bla, bla. What if it is fair, the lead is gone. That is moot.

Now, If you said, David Wright charges the ball with reckless abandoned and throws the guy out at first, I would agree. He should have been more aggressive, in my opinion. If he attacked the ball, he may have thrown the guy out at first and the game is over.

It's all bullshit.

Wagner should have thrown a slider, instead of a fastball to Phillips. He was not smart enough to figure that out for himself. Castro, Lo Duca, it does not matter.

Towelie
06-23-2006, 12:57 PM
Castro, Lo Duca, it does not matter.



Wager w/ Castro---6 Innings---3 Blown Saves


Wagner w/ LoDuca---28.2 innings---1 Blown save


Hmmm

MAVRIC305
06-23-2006, 01:28 PM
Wager w/ Castro---6 Innings---3 Blown Saves


Wagner w/ LoDuca---28.2 innings---1 Blown save


Hmmm

That's very interesting. I still think it does not matter.

If you pitch smart you will do the job. Billy Wagner did not pitch smart. I have to believe Castro was calling the correct pitches, and Wagner was being a hothead looking to strike the batter out with his fastball.

Though, your thoughts on the matter are quite relevant. So, I take my hand off to you, sir. Pahdon me...

av8rOC
06-23-2006, 09:07 PM
It's insane how hot Wright is right now. It was like you just new he was going to hit that homer to go up 4-0.

frankjg
06-23-2006, 11:10 PM
This team is Un-fucking-stoppable.

Budyzir
06-23-2006, 11:35 PM
I so dig watching Bradford pitch. I think you can only appreciate it on TV, with those cam angles. You see him deliver so way down low and just watch the pitch climb up into the strike zone.

With his style I can see how he screws up the hitters.

LifeHacker
06-24-2006, 12:09 AM
Lets corss our fingers andhope Duaner "dirty" Sanchez is alright!

Towelie
06-24-2006, 02:06 AM
Big props to the Toronto fans for giving Carlos a standing ovation


Tomorrow is the toughest game of this series with Halladay going for the Jays

Good win tonight

I'm going hate when they send Lastings down, hes way fun to watch

IDontCare05
06-24-2006, 11:38 AM
I'm going hate when they send Lastings down, hes way fun to watch


yeah me too....He brought not only great talent but also much exitement throughout the time he started playing.

Mother Shucker
06-24-2006, 12:47 PM
Eh, he is too much of a knitter for my taste. Put some mustard on that hot dog. Reminds me of Willie Montenez.

As for Duaner, sort of good news. Ed Coleman said it was "a tingling feeling that shot from his neck all the way down his arm". Not that that is good, but better then "it felt like my elbow/shoulder exploded".

Towelie
06-25-2006, 04:46 PM
Another series victory


Jose Reyes is a god, best SS in the NL

The streaking Reyes went 4-for-5 for the second consecutive game and the third time in five days. He extended his hitting streak to 13 games and is on a 32-for-57 (.561) tear that's raised his batting average from .246 to .302.
It was his fifth game this season with at least four hits, tying Seattle's Ichiro Suzuki for tops in the major leagues. Reyes also got his big league-leading 34th stolen base and scored twice.

Should be a fun series with those BlowSux...

Soler-Lester
Pedro-Beckett
Glavine-Schilling

2 out of 3 would be fantastic, but if we can get on Lester we could sweep the series

Bob Loblaw
06-26-2006, 08:17 AM
Holy Fuck, Reyes goes from a .246 avg to .302 in like 15 games, that is amazing. I love this team from top to bottom. My only problem, Nady up with 2 outs and runners in scoring position, you can always count on a strike out. But i'm nit picking. 15 1/2 games ahead of the Braves is a dream come true. And I can finally wear my Beltran jersey around Houston proudly.

TheJew
06-26-2006, 09:37 AM
the mets have been good lately, and finally i can tease and spit on my yankee friends.

anyone else hear about the speculation of john smoltz?

Tickle The Bag
06-28-2006, 08:31 PM
RRRAAAAAAAAMMMOOOOOOONNEEEEEEE send Milledge back to AAA.

Tickle The Bag
06-28-2006, 10:00 PM
Jesus Christ this looks like a fucking little league game.

Premarital Sex
06-28-2006, 10:03 PM
At least I've had fun.

Mother Shucker
06-29-2006, 10:16 PM
2-2 in the 7th. , we need this win after the last two fiascos.

Tickle The Bag
06-29-2006, 10:38 PM
Beltran just singled to left. Can Wright come through in the clutch?

Tickle The Bag
06-29-2006, 10:42 PM
Holy fuck Crisp just made a fucking sick snag out in center. Damn that was some filthy leather.

MAVRIC305
06-29-2006, 11:01 PM
9 times out of 10 he does not make that play. Boston is just going that good right now. Horrible luck for us Mets fans. I am pretty depressed. I may go slice open my veins Jimmy style. Or, I will get over it in a minute or two...

Sickening series. I am just flabbergasted at our inability to put runners on base. Sad, sad performance.

Let's hope we can pick it up in the Bronx. GOD PLEASE, LET US SWEEP THE YANKS!

We lost, but...

LET'S GO METS!

Fred Told Me
06-29-2006, 11:18 PM
9 times out of 10 he does not make that play. Boston is just going that good right now. Horrible luck for us Mets fans. I am pretty depressed.



Here's a solution to your depression. When you get your morning paper tomorrow look at the NL East Standings. See New York Mets 11 games ahead in First Place. Depression ended.

Who cares. They are bound to get swept by somebody, if it's going to be somebody let it be Boston. So when the Yankees lose out to Boston by a couple of games at the end of the season, and we win our division by 20 games. We will look back and laugh. It's cruise control until October in Flushing. And even if we have a bad weekend in the Bronx, which we might considering the pitching matchups, It's 7 games vs. Pittsburgh and Florida next week :)

MAVRIC305
06-29-2006, 11:48 PM
Fred, I love your positivity! Until...

And even if we have a bad weekend in the Bronx, which we might considering the pitching matchups

NOOOOOOOOO! I want to SWEEP them!

But, after you said that I loved the rest. I hope it all comes to fruition in the end.

Bob Loblaw
06-30-2006, 12:57 AM
A double digit lead on the rest of the east in late June makes this easier to stomach but I kind of liked being the only team who hadn't been swept or lost 3 in a row. That catch by Crisp was heart breaking but we get Floyd back this weekend and hopefully Delgado's ribs are fine. Anyone else hear anything about Pedro having pain in his hip?

Towelie
06-30-2006, 01:24 AM
Tough series

Boston is on a roll right now

Ah well we had to lose 3 in a row at some point

I was however very dissapointed with Pedro and his Boston loving comments

“It meant a lot more than obviously the game. I think not even a win would give me more satisfaction than the reception I got from the fans. Not only the fans, but the players, too…

Thats some serious horseshit right there

Glavine didnt pull that shit in his return to Atlanta, although he pitched as bad...

Move along

1-3 from the Yanks is fine by me, but hopefully with Floyd back we can bounce back from this mess

Tickle The Bag
06-30-2006, 08:15 AM
Anyone else hear anything about Pedro having pain in his hip?

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=4875

There is a little bit in there about that. It just says sore right hip and toe but they still have him penciled for his next start on July 3rd vs. the Pirates so it must be minor.

Bob Loblaw
06-30-2006, 11:16 AM
[url]It just says sore right hip and toe but they still have him penciled for his next start on July 3rd vs. the Pirates so it must be minor.

I'd rather him miss a start against the Pirates and rest up than have him go out and hurt himself. I mean, its only the Pirates.

Mother Shucker
06-30-2006, 11:39 AM
I can live with the Sawx sweep, as long as we take two fo the next three.:icon_mrgr

Cybouncer
06-30-2006, 03:51 PM
Sorry guys. I have been saying all season long that the National League is weak this year. The Mets are by far the Best team in the NL but they still have a long way to go if they want to win the W/S.

Good luck to them this weekend.

TheJerseyDevil
06-30-2006, 06:07 PM
Gee thanks Mets.

Tickle The Bag
06-30-2006, 08:21 PM
Subway series time. I love this shit. I follow baseball fairly close and being from the tri state area I should just pick either the Mets or Yanks but I can't choose. I don't care what happens this season, as long as one of the two prevent the Boston from taking the World Series.

Mother Shucker
06-30-2006, 09:20 PM
Gary just had the line of the night: "The Yankee ground crew, instead of dancing to YMCA, will cover the field".

How friggin gay is that YMCA bit? It was funny the first time I saw it, but give it a rest you homo's.

KneeKnee
07-01-2006, 02:36 AM
Someone hold my hair while I puke.

Cybouncer
07-01-2006, 02:46 PM
How friggin gay is that YMCA bit? It was funny the first time I saw it, but give it a rest you homo's.


No, it wasn't...:action-sm

Angelfuck
07-01-2006, 04:57 PM
beautiful day for a ball game :icon_mrgr

JCR16
07-01-2006, 08:26 PM
Let Go Mets

Towelie
07-02-2006, 12:31 AM
Good bounce back

Take the game tomorrow and take the season series for the 2nd straight year

Then 8 games vs. the Fish and the Pirates


All Star game starters announced tomorrow as well

Fred Told Me
07-02-2006, 02:22 AM
Just a correction, we split with the Yankees 3-3 last year, thanks to Braden Looper preventing the sweep at Yankee Stadium. The Mets won the season series in 2004, with the sweep at Shea on 4th of July weekend.

Mother Shucker
07-02-2006, 09:19 PM
Meet the Mets, meet the..........oh wait......... it's the All-Star team.

Four starters mother fuckers.

Towelie
07-02-2006, 09:39 PM
Meet the Mets, meet the..........oh wait......... it's the All-Star team.

Four starters mother fuckers.


Not to mention Pedro and Glavine

And Billy Wags is one of the final 5

BE VOTING PEOPLE

Fred Told Me
07-02-2006, 10:00 PM
Yeah but Billy Wagner has no shot of winning that spot, nor does he deserve it. It's going to be Nomar all the way.

Towelie
07-02-2006, 10:02 PM
Yeah but Billy Wagner has no shot of winning that spot, nor does he deserve it. It's going to be Nomar all the way.


He may not deserve it over Nomar, but he has the best shot due to the fan vote

When Pedro and Glavine both pull out, he'll get in anyway


PS, Pedro isnt pitching his next start, Oliver is taking that spot
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2507739


And a smaller side note, Pelfrey might make his debut in one of the doubleheader games on Saturday...Possibly, but probably not likely


And David Wright is going to do the HR Derby, which is very cool

CM Mark
07-02-2006, 10:13 PM
now i know how yankee fans usually feel around All Star time with half of the starting line up being from their team.

Besides, with the NL All Star Team, obviously the fans votes were very good because the fan and player votes were the same as far as the starting lineup for the NL.

Jerry1
07-02-2006, 10:30 PM
Lil story about the National League All-star team....
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060702&content_id=1535047&vkey=allstar2006&fext=.jsp

Official all-star rosters
http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/events/all_star/y2006/roster_league.jsp

Funny thing about it is that there is six Mets players on the NL but only 3 from the Yankees on the AL team.(Cano is on the reserve list).
Like Wagner or not, if he gets picked that'll be seven players from the Mets. Something that will bug Yankee fans everywhere. All the more reason to vote for him.

CM Mark
07-02-2006, 11:33 PM
Fuck SOler, in his faggoty Cuban ass. Is it too much to ask to get Jose LIma back? He at least got outs more often. 7th fucking batter before the first fucking out?

MetalSign
07-02-2006, 11:35 PM
Fuck SOler, in his faggoty Cuban ass. Is it too much to ask to get Jose LIma back? He at least got outs more often. 7th fucking batter before the first fucking out?

This guy hasnt had a solid game, get someone up in the bullpen already, damnit.

Oh wait he threw a pitch to 1st away. wonderful. get rid of him.

KneeKnee
07-03-2006, 12:04 AM
Solar stinks. I hope to never see him again.

MAVRIC305
07-03-2006, 03:23 PM
Long road trip finally over... Did not end the way I had hoped. After that first inning my drunk ass passed out. I awoke to a disgusting sight. Never mind!

Vote for Billy! (http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/all_star/y2006/fv/index.html)

Let's get back home and play like champions. Fucking silly road trip, we should have played the first three at Yankees Stadium, not Shea. The fact that we played all those American League teams in a row at their home is pretty ridiculous.

FUCK IT!

Let's go Mets! 6 in the All-Star Game, could be 7 if you,

Vote for Billy! (http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/all_star/y2006/fv/index.html) :-)

sd187
07-04-2006, 08:59 PM
aaron heilman should be executed

IDontCare05
07-04-2006, 09:04 PM
Floyd left Tuesday's game in the fifth inning with what has been diagnosed as a mild concussion after colliding with Jose Reyes.


Ughhh...didn't he like just get off the injury list? ha.....what is happening to our team?

Fred Told Me
07-04-2006, 09:21 PM
Wow, judging by the previous two posts, you would think we lost today. You do know the Mets came back and won, right?

And Floyd going down again isn't really a big deal because its just a mild concussion, and the way he's been hitting, his bat isn't really a big loss. Besides Chavez came up big replacing him today.

IDontCare05
07-04-2006, 11:04 PM
Wow, judging by the previous two posts, you would think we lost today. You do know the Mets came back and won, right?

And Floyd going down again isn't really a big deal because its just a mild concussion, and the way he's been hitting, his bat isn't really a big loss. Besides Chavez came up big replacing him today.


yeah I know they came back.....I just don't want to see anymore injuries. We have enough to worry about already....like starting pitchers for instance. Can we please get someone good from a trade??? Don't get me wrong...we have good pitchers but one more couldn't hurt.


Oh yeah.... they are 3-7 for their last 10 games... :icon_cry:

sd187
07-05-2006, 01:06 AM
Wow, judging by the previous two posts, you would think we lost today. You do know the Mets came back and won, right?

And Floyd going down again isn't really a big deal because its just a mild concussion, and the way he's been hitting, his bat isn't really a big loss. Besides Chavez came up big replacing him today.
i'm very happy they won, but heilman stinks. he can throw 95 on the black but he stinks.

OandA_Chris
07-05-2006, 04:01 PM
That was a huge win last night i am sure with will lead to great things tonight. Does anyone think they should call up Pelfery for one of the games on saturday.

Fred Told Me
07-05-2006, 05:47 PM
They should have called up Pelfrey instead of Lima. Do we really need to see his tired act again?

sd187
07-05-2006, 09:10 PM
That was a huge win last night i am sure with will lead to great things tonight. Does anyone think they should call up Pelfery for one of the games on saturday.
yes

IDontCare05
07-05-2006, 11:45 PM
Congrats to the boys on their 50th win....

IDontCare05
07-06-2006, 11:24 PM
Great win tonight....

Did anyone else see Pedro with the ball on the string? haha...

he was tossing it over the dugout and the one guy actually got it after like a few tries.

Tickle The Bag
07-06-2006, 11:38 PM
Great win tonight....

Did anyone else see Pedro with the ball on the string? haha...

he was tossing it over the dugout and the one guy actually got it after like a few tries.

I thought he was trying to "reel" himself a piece of ass for the evening until that fucking PHAAAAAAAGGGOOTTTTTTT snagged it.

Fred Told Me
07-06-2006, 11:51 PM
I don't really want to complain with the way things have been going, but there is one thing that irks me. Does Willie Randolph realize that Jose Valentin is a switch hitter? I am sick and tired of seeing Chris Woodward play just about every day. He sucks! He's 4 for his last 40. Something like that, yet he's always in there. Enough of him.

Not a big deal. Just need something to vent about with a 12 1/2 game lead. God do the Phillies suck.

Towelie
07-06-2006, 11:56 PM
Pelfrey on Saturday will be fun to see

Henry Owens being up is also another arm to try for the pen

Lima and Maine back to back (Shudder)

KneeKnee
07-07-2006, 04:46 PM
Lima and Maine back to back (Shudder)


Back-to-back and contents-of-belly-to-floor.

OandA_Chris
07-07-2006, 07:30 PM
Is there no one else but Lima. Lets hope the mets bats are in full swing tonight. Delgado is sitting out. Atleast Lima has normal hair tonight.

Fred Told Me
07-07-2006, 08:57 PM
I HATE CHRIS WOODWARD!!! STOP PLAYING THIS FUCKIN' GUY!!!
5 games in a row for this scrub. And he keeps Valentin on the bench. He's 4 for 45. and he gets to hit 2nd and strikes out foolishly with bases loaded in the 2nd. Also, doubleheader tomorrow so you know Lo Duca is going to sit out one of them. So why is he sitting tonight? Especially when the pitching matchup is Willis and Lima. I know 12 1/2 up, but I still need to find something to irritate me.

KneeKnee
07-07-2006, 09:27 PM
The fact that lima gave up 7 runs should be enough to NEVER see this guy again. Just put him away for Christ's sakes!:icon_evil

OandA_Chris
07-07-2006, 10:55 PM
I think he already showed in his last 3 starts that he should never have been back.

Towelie
07-07-2006, 11:19 PM
Lima

3 IP 5 ER

Oliver

5 IP 1 Hit 0 ER


Why didnt Oliver start this game??

On the plus side, Lima was Designated for Assignment and Owens looked sharp

Pelfrey goes tomorrow, which should be cool

OandA_Chris
07-08-2006, 12:28 AM
I can't wait to see Pelfey pitch tomorrow. he is getting the second game so i hope he gets the run support.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/story/433219p-364989c.html

CM Mark
07-08-2006, 04:53 AM
yeah, Lima does suck, but remember this math

Lima > Dirt > Soler

OandA_Chris
07-08-2006, 11:36 AM
Following the 7-3 loss to the Marlins on Friday evening, the Mets designated RHP Jose Lima for assignment. This was done to make room for RHP Mike Pelfrey, who will make his debut in the second game of Saturday's doubleheader.
Atleast it makes room for Owens to stay up for atleast the rest of the weekend.

av8rOC
07-08-2006, 07:03 PM
Tough loss the first game...

So far in the second Valentin has 7 rbis in two consecutive innings...sick!

Fred Told Me
07-08-2006, 09:00 PM
Yeah good job by Valentin. Does this mean that when Reyes comes back next week, we can actually see Valentin play every day instead of Woodward? Probably not.

OandA_Chris
07-08-2006, 09:13 PM
Valentin has be playing everyday 2nd base for awhile

Towelie
07-08-2006, 09:25 PM
Valentin cant hit lefties

The platoon is fine

Take the split tomorrow and end the first half on an upnote

Pelfrey looked effectively wild, but he was looking good

Fred Told Me
07-08-2006, 10:04 PM
Valentin has be playing everyday 2nd base for awhile

Thanks for the info. :icon_roll

Valentin hasn't been playing against lefties even though he is a switch hitter.

Valentin can't hit lefties? And Woodward can? Even if I'm the only one who recognizes it, He sucks! If the Mets are up 17-3 and nobody on, then he'll get a base hit. He's garbage. Case closed. I'd rather see them bring up Anderson Hernandez.

OandA_Chris
07-08-2006, 10:48 PM
Valentin should be playing everyday 2nd base for awhile is what i wanted to say I stink. He deserves it.
Anderson Hernandez has an amazin glove I would love to see him come back and get a lil time at 2nd and see if he can get that bat going I know he can do better then what he did before he got hurt earlier this year.

MAVRIC305
07-09-2006, 01:16 AM
Lefties or not, Valentin should be our set in stone starting second baseman. He is a veteran and has a solid bat. I do not care if he cannot hit lefties, niether can Delgado. He has been vital to this team and if we make it to October, I think he will be even more important.

Towelie
07-09-2006, 03:15 AM
More good news for the farm, we signed the top Dominican prospect, Francisco Pena...He's Tony Pena's kid

Nice job Omar...Now lets see if he can get Balbino Fuenmayor and it will be a very solid internation free agent signing period, especially since we got Deolis Guerra and Fernando Martinez last year

Look out folks, we have a very solid low minors system...The future, as does the present, looks awesome

IDontCare05
07-09-2006, 10:19 AM
Lefties or not, Valentin should be our set in stone starting second baseman. He is a veteran and has a solid bat. I do not care if he cannot hit lefties, niether can Delgado. He has been vital to this team and if we make it to October, I think he will be even more important.


I totally agree...so far he has shown that he belongs there.

Budyzir
07-09-2006, 04:53 PM
Can Wright make the clutch hit or what !!!

MAVRIC305
07-09-2006, 05:06 PM
I was yelling at the TV when he took the second strike and then he smacks one out. It's almost like he never fails to come through when we need it. If he keeps this up he is the MVP without a doubt.

53-36 at the break! 47 more wins to 100! :action-sm

Great half, I hope our boys do well at the All-Star game.

Budyzir
07-09-2006, 06:18 PM
I've never seen a hitter savor being in the hole with two strikes, its like his comfort zone or something.

OandA_Chris
07-09-2006, 06:21 PM
I was at the game today and it was like a playoff game after David hit that home run. MVP MVP MVP. I hope he does good in the Home Run derby tomorrow but not to good I dont want it to affect his swing.

Towelie
07-09-2006, 08:39 PM
Reyes, Pedro and Glavine out of the all star game

Cant say I'm too dissapointed

CM Mark
07-10-2006, 10:01 PM
Holy hell! Let's hope this homerun show by Wright doesn't drain his power for the rest of the season

TheJew
07-11-2006, 04:50 PM
I was at the game today and it was like a playoff game after David hit that home run. MVP MVP MVP. I hope he does good in the Home Run derby tomorrow but not to good I dont want it to affect his swing.
for fathers day about 3 weeks ago i went with my dad to shea for a mets o's game. when the mets rallied with 2 outs and wright hit a grand slam the stadium went ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NUTS. and everyone was chanting MVP as he got up to the plate.

Fred Told Me
07-11-2006, 06:13 PM
for fathers day about 3 weeks ago i went with my dad to shea for a mets o's game. when the mets rallied with 2 outs and wright hit a grand slam the stadium went ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NUTS. and everyone was chanting MVP as he got up to the plate.

That's Terrific! that's terrific.

LifeHacker
07-11-2006, 08:58 PM
Mets on cover of SI this week. Story is called "Welcome to Rip City! The Adventures of Captian Red Ass and the Intrepid Mets."
Here is the link to the cover:
http://hotfoot.metsblog.com/blog/_archives/2006/7/11/2103352.html

Budyzir
07-11-2006, 09:22 PM
Mets on cover of SI this week. Story is called "Welcome to Rip City! The Adventures of Captian Red Ass and the Intrepid Mets."
Here is the link to the cover:
http://hotfoot.metsblog.com/blog/_archives/2006/7/11/2103352.html

Going to get 2 copies, one to read and one to frame.

Towelie
07-11-2006, 09:32 PM
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b349/Jtmac17/0717_large.jpg

Through the doors to the New York Mets' clubhouse enter the young and the ancient, the slow and the swift, the homegrown and the mercenary, the charitable and the thrifty, the beautiful and (by official team balloting) the ugly, but never, for goodness' sake, the easily insulted.

"Welcome," catcher Paul Lo Duca says, "to Rip City, where we get on each other all the time."

True to their home city's heritage, the Mets are a melting pot of cultures, customs, languages and, yes, occasional off-color salutations that somehow works. Backed by owner Fred Wilpon's money, shaped by a childhood dream of general manager Omar Minaya, who was born in the Dominican Republic and reared in Queens, and ably guided by second-year manager Willie Randolph, the Mets are the rare sports team that has found instant success after a nearly complete overhaul.

Of the 29 players on the active roster and disabled list at week's end, 16 joined the major league club since the end of last season. Only eight played for the Mets before Minaya was named G.M. 22 months ago. And yet, in a veritable New York minute, the Mets have become the best team (53-36 through Sunday) in the weakest league in years, with by far the biggest lead in baseball (12 games in the otherwise loser-filled NL East) and the thickest skins this side of a Friars' Club roast.

"Look at the personalities they brought in here," says closer Billy Wagner, an 11-year veteran who signed as a free agent last winter. "We're all extroverts. Me, Lo Duca, [Carlos] Delgado, Pedro [Martinez].... It's not like guys came here and were afraid to say something. I think that's why we clicked right away. This is the best clubhouse I've ever been involved in. And the secret is that guys can say anything they want to anyone at any time."

That's not to say that communication is always clear. There was the time, for instance, when backup catcher Ramon Castro ("the class clown," as Lo Duca calls him) visited Wagner on the mound in a crucial situation against the Blue Jays.

"How about a coo-ba here?" is what Wagner, born in the rural mountains of Virginia, heard his Puerto Rican catcher say.

"A what?" Wagner asked.

"Coo-ba," Castro said.

"Curveball?" Wagner finally deciphered. "I don't have a curveball!"

"Well, O.K.," Castro said. "We're not throwing that anyway."

Castro is even better known for his portrayal of ample-bottomed lefthander Darren Oliver, a vaudevillian impersonation that he performs on charter flights -- with the help of two airline pillows stuffed into the seat of his pants.

Not even Martinez, the three-time Cy Young winner, is immune from catching grief. After Martinez overslept for a game in Toronto this year, he was greeted in the clubhouse by Wagner, who took one look at Martinez's garish-colored outfit and bellowed, "I sure hope you're not late because you were out shopping for that."

Another time Martinez returned to his locker after batting practice to find his wildly styled loafers strung up from his locker, a team custom to mock fashion statements that invite ridicule.

"A lot of times you'll see somebody's shirt hanging in the middle of the clubhouse," Martinez says. "Cliff [Floyd], his stuff seems to be hanging a lot."

Floyd also has drawn attention for the music that accompanies each of his at bats at home: the theme to Sanford and Son. The tune was picked by Lo Duca, who thought it apropos for the oft-hobbled leftfielder.

And then there's Wagner, who still hasn't lived down the time he asked the clubhouse caterer if he could have a gallon of milk to take home to Greenwich, Conn.

"You're making $10 million a year, and you won't spring for a gallon of milk on the way home?" Lo Duca told Wagner. "Reach into that wallet once in a while, will ya?"

When the Mets are rolling, as they have been for most of the season, they seem to have it all: pitching (they were second in the league in ERA at week's end), hitting (first in runs), speed (first in steals), power (second in homers) and that immeasurable but unmistakable element called chemistry, which develops when you can, with only the finest intentions, refer to your teammates as Visine, Moses and Captain Red Ass.

So charmed are the Mets that they entered the All-Star break 20-8 (.714) in one-run games -- only six teams in the post-1961 expansion era have played better than .700 ball in one-run games over a full season -- and had flourished despite having to use 11 starting pitchers in their first 88 games.

"Their versatility is very impressive," Pirates manager Jim Tracy said last week as the Mets took three of four games from Pittsburgh. "They have switch-hitters who hit equally well from both sides; they have guys on the bench who complement one another, which makes it hard to match up with them late in the game; and they can run and pitch. They can win games in a lot of different ways."

If the Mets keep this up, they will break or challenge franchise records for runs, home runs, stolen bases and opponent strikeouts while accelerating Minaya's time line for a pennant. Minaya has said that his goal for 2005 was to restore the franchise's image -- Delgado, a free agent that off-season, chose to sign with the Marlins in January '05 rather than the Mets because he deemed Florida the better team -- and for 2006 was to contend for a playoff spot. With such a large lead in the division, however, Minaya's revamped agenda is to fortify his rotation to carry the Mets through three rounds of playoff series. Unless the team's '05 first-round draft pick, righthander Mike Pelfrey, who allowed three runs in five innings to win his big league debut last Saturday, sticks, Martinez, 34 and with a sore hip (he was placed on the 15-day disabled list last Thursday, retroactive to June 29), would be their youngest postseason starter, fronting Tom Glavine, 40, Orlando Hernandez, 36, and Steve Trachsel, 35. In a humorous but telling moment last week Glavine stopped short when he stepped into the trainer's room to find a deli-counter-length queue. "Oh, my goodness," Glavine said, "what number are we serving in the whirlpool, number 9?"

"When we went 9-1 on the road trip [to Los Angeles, Arizona and Philadelphia in June], that's when I knew we had a good team," Minaya says. "But we still can be better. It's all about pitching, pitching, pitching. That's what I'm looking for every day."

Says a rival National League G.M., "They were the best team we've seen this year. But like everybody else, there are questions about their pitching. Everyone's scrambling for starting pitching, and it's everyone's dilemma that there may not be anything out there better than what you already have."

With the Marlins keeping Dontrelle Willis off the market, Minaya's best option for obtaining a pitcher who would start one of the first three games of a postseason series would seem to be Barry Zito, a potential free agent at season's end whom Oakland would consider trading only in a deal that keeps the A's competitive this year. That could mean that Minaya would have to give up 21-year-old Lastings Milledge, an athletic, aggressive outfielder who's precisely the kind of player who fits Minaya's vision of how the Mets should play the game.

"I grew up a fan of National League baseball and teams like the Dodgers, Pirates and Giants," Minaya says, recalling some of the early adapters of integration. "I believe in a balance of speed, power and pitching, like the way those teams played ball. I always wanted a team like that. The Mets never were one of those organizations. Traditionally they relied on pitching in a big ballpark. I always wanted more athleticism, and from Day One that's what I've tried to do here."

Minaya inherited two cornerstone players to help implement his blueprint: shortstop Jose Reyes and third baseman David Wright, both 23, who this week were scheduled to become the third-youngest pair of teammates to start an All-Star Game (trailing only Bobby Doerr and Ted Williams of the 1941 Red Sox and Dean Chance and Jim Fregosi of the 1964 Angels). Mr. Wright, as his many admirers refer to him, is fourth in the league in RBIs, with 74, though his matinee looks and knack for clutch hitting earn him no slack in the clubhouse.

"He's Visine," Wagner says. "You know, eyewash. One time he dove to catch a bunt he could have caught standing up. We all went like this...." Wagner rubs a finger along his eye, as if wiping away a tear.

"Wagner said that?" Wright says. "He talks a lot for a guy from the woods. You can't get in a word with that guy."

Reyes, meanwhile, is teaching Wright Spanish and, with his slashing hitting style and derring-do as a base runner, is schooling the rest of the league in how to disrupt opponents. "The best feeling of all," says Reyes, smiling, "is sliding headfirst into third base with a triple." (He leads the majors with 12.) So dangerous with his legs is Reyes that he is on pace to join MVP runner-up Lenny Dykstra of the 1993 Phillies as the only players since 1937 to score more than 140 runs without hitting 20 home runs.

"His improvement since last year is mind-boggling," Tracy says of Reyes, whose on-base percentage has risen from .300 in 2005 to .357 in '06. "The Mets are a good team, but when he's on base they're a different team. He takes them to another level."

Reyes has benefited from the counsel of 47-year-old backup first baseman Julio Franco, who was the first player Minaya tried to sign after being named Mets G.M. Minaya could not lure Franco away from Atlanta then, but he succeeded last winter by giving him a two-year contract.

"As long as I'm running a team, there are two guys who will always have a job with me: Rickey Henderson [a Mets special instructor] and Julio Franco," Minaya says. "That's how much I think of [Franco] as a person. He's like an extra coach on the staff. I knew he was as important to our chemistry as anybody."

Says Wright of the man who has spent some of his 29 pro seasons in Japan, South Korea and Mexico and has 2,546 major league hits, "He's talked to Jose and me about things like, 'If I only knew back then when I was young some of what I know now, I'd be looking at 3,000 hits.'" Adds Lo Duca, "That's Moses. He's all-knowing. Wisdom and knowledge, that's what he brings. He hasn't lost an argument yet."

For his part, Lo Duca seems ever in search of an argument, whether getting in the grill of his pitchers when they lose focus, spiking the baseball in a fit of anger at the feet of umpire Angel Hernandez or barking at Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez for styling too much after hitting a home run. "That's just me," says Lo Duca, whom Wagner refers to as Captain Red Ass. "Must be the Italian blood."

Minaya wound up with Lo Duca and Delgado, his cleanup hitter and first baseman, only after Florida's decision last winter to slash its payroll. Minaya knew a year ago that he needed a middle-of-the-order hitter, but he was unsure where to turn after a three-team midseason deal to get Manny Ramirez from Boston fell through when Tampa Bay backed out. (Minaya was prepared to trade Milledge in that deal.) "Power hitters like that just don't come on the market," Minaya says of Ramirez.

Then, on the final day of the general managers' meetings last November in Palm Springs, Marlins G.M. Larry Beinfest told Minaya, "We're prepared to talk about everybody except Miguel Cabrera and Dontrelle Willis." Says Minaya, "That started the ball rolling for the 2006 team." Delgado was the perfect fit: a premier power hitter, a close friend of quiet Mets centerfielder Carlos Beltran, who struggled in 2005 trying to be the Mets' franchise player, and a charitable soul whom Minaya calls "a better person than he is a player." The Mets gave up three young players to get Delgado on Nov. 24, then two weeks later sent another pair of prospects to the Marlins to get Lo Duca.

"I had three-year offers out to [free-agent catchers] Ramon Hernandez and Bengie Molina," Minaya says. "Then Lo Duca popped up. I always feel like when you have a bird in hand, you take the bird."

In between those trades Minaya signed Wagner to a four-year, $43 million contract, fulfilling a promise he had made to Martinez and Glavine. "I told them, 'At this stage in your careers, I promise you I will do everything I can to make sure you get the wins that are coming to you,'" Minaya says. "We went after B.J. Ryan and Wagner. I give the Blue Jays credit. They went out aggressive on Ryan, giving him five years right away. We needed Wagner after that."

Wagner did not become fully vested as a Met until May 21, when he saved a game against the Yankees the day after blowing a four-run lead against the crosstown rivals. Minaya, understanding that Wagner had to pass such a trial by fire, told him in the clubhouse after that save, "Congratulations. You just won us the pennant."

Minaya's blueprint has worked as well on the field as it promised to on paper. Martinez and Glavine have 18 total wins, half of which have been saved by Wagner. Beltran, buoyed by the presence of Delgado, is one of a franchise-record six All-Stars, sports a career-high .995 OPS and was recently named one of People magazine's 100 most beautiful people -- a designation that inspired a teamwide vote to determine the ugliest Met. (Castro, Franco and Eli Marrero tied for the honor. "Finishing in a very strong second place was David Wright," says Lo Duca.) Wright and Reyes, insulated by veteran stars, have blossomed without the added burden of being team leaders. Franco leads the league in pinch hits and stories told.

"Cleveland, that was the worst for team chemistry," Franco says. "We'd get 80,000 [fans] on Opening Day and 2,000 after that. By the All-Star break we'd be 20 games out, and guys were worried only about their stats, not winning. Now in Mexico.... "

Still, Minaya is not satisfied. Sitting over a cup of Navy-bean soup last week at a New Jersey diner, the towers of the George Washington Bridge looming through the window behind him, Minaya, expert though he may be on the lay of this land, wore a countenance drawn more from concern than confidence. He wants his team to improve on grinding out at bats, the way he watched the Red Sox do while sweeping a three-game series from his club late last month. (The Mets went on a 3-6 slide against AL East powers Toronto, Boston and New York.) He knows he may need another pitcher. The architecture of these new Mets, he knows, is a work in progress. The concrete is still wet.

"What is New York Mets-style baseball?" asks Minaya. "That's what we're working on: to have something in place that lasts going forward. So that when you think of the New York Mets, you think of players who can take the extra base or take you deep. Power. Speed. Athleticism. We're getting there."

-- Tom Verducci

Issue date: July 17, 2006

Mother Shucker
07-11-2006, 10:44 PM
Beltran and Wright dominating this game so far.

IDontCare05
07-11-2006, 10:48 PM
Looks like so far the Mets are carrying this NL team. Wright with a HR and Beltran with the stolen base and then on a wild pitch scored.

Fred Told Me
07-12-2006, 12:30 AM
Fuck Trevor Hoffman

CM Mark
07-12-2006, 12:58 AM
would have been nice if more than just the Mets had shown up for the NL Team

Bob Loblaw
07-12-2006, 02:32 PM
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Towelie
07-12-2006, 07:53 PM
I now have respect for Andruw Jones

Making his fifth appearance -- and third start -- in an All-Star Game, Renteria did not get a hit in his two at-bats. As for Jones, he declined National League manager Phil Garner's offer to go to the plate in the ninth inning -- the veteran outfielder wanted to give New York's Carlos Beltran a chance to win the MVP.

av8rOC
07-12-2006, 08:16 PM
I now have respect for Andruw Jones

Wow didnt know that, thats a class act!

Budyzir
07-12-2006, 08:19 PM
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b349/Jtmac17/0717_large.jpg

Through the doors to the New York Mets' clubhouse enter the young and the ancient, the slow and the swift, the homegrown and the mercenary, the charitable and the thrifty, the beautiful and (by official team balloting) the ugly, but never, for goodness' sake, the easily insulted.

"How about a coo-ba here?" is what Wagner, born in the rural mountains of Virginia, heard his Puerto Rican catcher say.

"A what?" Wagner asked.

"Coo-ba," Castro said.

"Curveball?" Wagner finally deciphered. "I don't have a curveball!"

"Well, O.K.," Castro said. "We're not throwing that anyway."



HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Thats freaking hysterical, I can see it happening. Its like out of a movie.

Great post MTD.

LifeHacker
07-13-2006, 11:22 PM
Here is David Wright on Letterman last night:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SANFcm10KhU

This is also a very cool reanactment of Game 6 of the '86 World Series using the old nintendo baseball game:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOUhvNcKbSU

Norton's Hog
07-14-2006, 08:40 AM
Here is David Wright on Letterman last night:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SANFcm10KhU

This is also a very cool reanactment of Game 6 of the '86 World Series using the old nintendo baseball game:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOUhvNcKbSU
Thanks, great links.
I loved the little nintedno reanactment of game 6.

Towelie
07-14-2006, 11:48 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Thats freaking hysterical, I can see it happening. Its like out of a movie.

Great post MTD.


Yea its hilarious until you see the Wagner/Castro battery stats



Good win today

We get Zambrano tomorrow, so it should be a tough one

Fred Told Me
07-15-2006, 09:56 PM
The Mets have signed Edgardo Alfonzo to a minor league contract.

I would love for them to bring him up and let him be the utility infielder and send Chris Woodward packing. I know Alfonzo is pretty much finished, but I'd rather see one of my favorite Mets of all time do absolutely nothing that Woodward. I hate him!! Bases Loaded again today and does nothing. Throws the ball away on a play at the plate. Can't catch a throw from Lo Duca to get the pitcher stealing a base. uhhhhh. Reyes come back now!

sd187
07-16-2006, 12:44 AM
i knew fucking glavine would cough that fucking lead up immediately, just like he did against the red sox. i dont care what his record is he's not reliable and he's regressing to the shitty glavine we've seen so much of since 2003.

Fred Told Me
07-16-2006, 01:21 AM
Are you serious about Glavine? The guy has been great this year. And he wasn't bad today either. He pretty much held the Cubs hittless through the first 5 innings. It's his fault the bullpen couldn't get an out today? What's next your going to be upset with Pedro too? How about David Wright, is he pissing you off? Tom Glavine is the least of the Mets problems right now.

sd187
07-16-2006, 02:23 AM
bullshit. glavine cant get out of the sixth inning in more than half of his starts in the last month or so (look it up). the bullpen hurt him but he wilted in the sixth inning. that's bad.

Fred Told Me
07-16-2006, 10:25 AM
If Endy Chavez doesn't lose the ball in the sun, that's a totally different inning. The guy is 11-3, if you have a problem with a guy who is 11-3 than I don't know what to tell you. He can't get out of the 6th inning. Well in Baseball today, not too many guys do get out of the 6th inning. And I don't need to look it up, I watch essentially every inning of every game. And the guy is 40 years old. We have one of the best bullpens in baseball so it's not necessary for him to give much more than 6. If he gives a quality 6 innings every start, I'll take it.

Mother Shucker
07-16-2006, 09:51 PM
Not a bad inning, eh?

Budyzir
07-16-2006, 10:28 PM
I think I just saw one of the greatest 1/2 inning of baseball ever!

TheJerseyDevil
07-16-2006, 10:29 PM
Wow, break up the Cubs.

shwugie
07-16-2006, 10:38 PM
the 10 run inning against the Braves in 2001 was way better because it was at shea. Piazza capped that shit with the three run homer. I was in the Pepsi picnic area that night because the series sold out of tickets.

Towelie
07-16-2006, 10:43 PM
Top 6th: NY Mets
- C. Woodward flied out to center
- C. Beltran safe at first on T. Walker's fielding error
- C. Delgado singled to center, C. Beltran to second
- D. Wright singled to right, C. Beltran to third, C. Delgado to second
- C. Floyd homered to deep left, C. Delgado, C. Beltran and D. Wright scored
- X. Nady walked
- R. Novoa relieved S. Marshall
- R. Castro reached on fielder's choice, X. Nady to second on T. Walker's fielding error
- E. Chavez hit for P. Feliciano
- E. Chavez singled to right, X. Nady scored, R. Castro to third
- E. Chavez stole second
- J. Valentin singled to shortstop
- C. Woodward grounded into fielder's choice, R. Castro out at home, E. Chavez to third, J. Valentin to second
- C. Beltran homered to deep left center, E. Chavez, J. Valentin and C. Woodward scored
- C. Delgado doubled to deep left
- D. Wright homered to deep right, C. Delgado scored
- W. Ohman relieved W. Ohman
- C. Floyd walked
- X. Nady walked, C. Floyd to second
- R. Castro flied out to deep center


WOW

Fred Told Me
07-16-2006, 10:55 PM
The Cubs really screwed up 2 plays that would have prevented a majority of the damage. The error on Beltran's first at bat in the inning, and when Woodward hit his usual double play ball with the bases loaded, if they went to 2nd instead of home, it would have been double play and inning over.

Good job taking advantage of such a weak team, off to Cincinnati and hopefully Reyes will be back.

IDontCare05
07-17-2006, 01:08 AM
I think I just saw one of the greatest 1/2 inning of baseball ever!


hell yeah....It's a great time to be a Mets fan. What an incredible comeback and domination that game. They said they tied the MLB record for GS in one inning and it's a NY METS record for most runs in one inning.

KneeKnee
07-17-2006, 01:36 AM
I missed the inning, but thanks to BJ I was able to see the highlites.

AMAZING!

CM Mark
07-17-2006, 01:41 AM
I missed the inning, but thanks to BJ I was able to see the highlites.

AMAZING!
And to match this old slogan, how about this one,


You Gotta Believe!!

IDontCare05
07-19-2006, 11:11 AM
Beltran with a Grand Slam in two straight games! Lets keep up the winning!

Fred Told Me
07-19-2006, 09:16 PM
I need something new to complain about now that Reyes is back and I don't have to see Chris Woodward anymore and that complaint is......

Carlos Delgado. The guy right now can not even make contact. He can't be hitting clean up right now. He's been slumping for 2 months. Sure, when Delgado is himself he belongs in the cleanup spot, but he is killing way too many rallies, and he's hitting under .200 the past 2 months. And I know he can't hit back to back with Floyd for late