Wrestlemania 22

[Kyle]

Here's the official and up to date card so far. All of these matches have been confirmed:

Note - (Smackdown was taped tonight (2/27)...there are some potential SPOILERS, so be advised if you don't go in for these type of shenanigans)
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Wrestlemania XXII
Live on PPV from Chicago, Illinois
Sunday April 2, 2006
7 PM ET.
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WWE Hall of Fame Ceremony:
Inductees:
Bret Hart
Eddie Guerrero
Tony Atlas
Mean Gene Okerlund
(More to be added...)
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Official Card

WWE Championship:
Triple H vs. John Cena (c)

World Heavyweight Championship - Triple Threat:
Randy Orton vs. Rey Mysterio vs. Kurt Angle (c)

Vince McMahon vs. Shawn Michaels

Hardcore Match:
Edge vs. Mick Foley

WWE United States Championship:
John Bradshaw Leyfield vs. Chris Benoit (c)

Second Ever Money in the Bank Ladder Match:
Rob Van Dam vs. Shelton Benjamin vs. Ric Flair (more participants to be added)

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Heavily rumored matches:

Undertaker vs. Mark Henry
Booker T. vs. The Boogeyman
Lashley vs. Finlay

The Taker and Booker matches are virtual locks...It's just a matter of when WWE will officially announce them. Lashley vs. Finlay is as well, but there's a chance that could take place on the pre-show on Heat.

There's also rumors of Trish vs. Mickie as well as Candice vs. Torrie Wilson. There's absolutely nothing about whether either set of tag titles will be defended as neither Show & Kane nor MNM are in big feuds right now. Might be a good idea to have the face each other and unify the belts.

More to come...

[prozac]

You forgot a possible Hogan vs. Stone Cold

After a few episodes when RAW made its switch back to the USA network, Hulk Hogan made a challenge to "Stone Cold" Steve Austin in a match that would take place at this year's WrestleMania 22.

Following that challenge made by Hogan, we have yet to hear Austin's answer to the match until now. Recently on Steve Austin's official website he made his responce. You can read what the rattle snake has to say about Hulk Hogan and his match at WrestleMania 22

[commish13]

That's a bunch of horseshit, prozac. While it's not entirely impossible that the match can happen, it's very unlikely, and the only places that "news piece" showed up on were stupid newz sites, and the link given at the end of the article was an advertisement.

[prozac]

:fu4: That's a bunch of horseshit, prozac. While it's not entirely impossible that the match can happen, it's very unlikely, and the only places that "news piece" showed up on were stupid newz sites, and the link given at the end of the article was an advertisement.

Your quite passionate about this my friend. THis is fact, I spoke to The Hulkster and Stone Cold and they confirmed this. Don't ruin my party Mr. Horseshit:fu4:

[commish13]

NO THAT'S NOT THE TRUTH TAKE IT BACK YOU GIANT PIECE OF FUCK

you fuckass bitchcock

(that'sh my anferny impression at the end there)

[prozac]

NO THAT'S NOT THE TRUTH TAKE IT BACK YOU GIANT PIECE OF FUCK

you fuckass bitchcock

(that'sh my anferny impression at the end there)

OK...I did not speak to Stone Cold....but me and the Hulkster talk all the time, I even call him Terry. I saw his kid naked...what a piece of ass.
I hope to see the daughter naked one day.

[commish13]

Who didn't see that last line coming

I KNOW I DID

you're paulie predictable

[Jimmy's Dignity]

There's absolutely nothing about whether either set of tag titles will be defended as neither Show & Kane nor MNM are in big feuds right now. Might be a good idea to have the face each other and unify the belts.

More to come...
Best tag team idea since well before the split even.

[askewcore]

Best tag team idea since well before the split even.

Definitley, the tag team division has really sucked for a long time now. Although I do like MNM and the team of Show and Kane, they have no one else to fight.

[Perch1019]

I just found out that I have off the next day!
WMs were always more fun watching it with a bunch of drunk wrestling fans. I officially throw my name into the hat for being down to do something of this nature.

[Kyle]

Definitley, the tag team division has really sucked for a long time now. Although I do like MNM and the team of Show and Kane, they have no one else to fight.

They were teasing on PWInsider today that there is going to be an interpromotional match for Wrestlemania, but it's in their pay section so I'm not sure what it is. Other than MNM vs. Show/Kane, I can't think of another inter-brand match that would take place.

[askewcore]

Someone had mentioned a interpromotional money in the bank, that could be possible, no?

[Chester'sLiver]

Someone had mentioned a interpromotional money in the bank, that could be possible, no?
I wouldn't think so since they already are having a money in the bank match. Which I hope RVD wins. I will be ordering this btw, a few matches have sparked my intrest.

** ok I didn't see this -------> (more participants to be added) so maybe they will add a few smackdown people. I doubt it though because who are you gonna put in there.

[askewcore]

I doubt it though because who are you gonna put in there.

DUH! The Boogeyman!

good point, they got nothing.

[Jimmy's Dignity]

you're just plain silly...Boogeyman doesn't make it into Money in the Bank.

they're going to put the Smackdown Junior's division

[askewcore]

they're going to put the Smackdown Junior's division

You'll get no objections from me. Midgets, always funny. As long as it's not the couple of guys who arent midgets, just really short people.

[BeltOfScotch]

Someone had mentioned a interpromotional money in the bank, that could be possible, no?

I had read that the Money in the Bank was going to be interpromotional this year, but then again that report also said Carlito was going to be in the match with RVD and Benjamin from Raw (if you're curious, the Smackdown guys suggested were Hardy, Finlay and Lashley). Anyway, on Raw they clearly said the winner was going to get a WWE title shot and nothing on the website suggests this is a interpromotional match either, so I'm guessing it's just Raw.

[Kugzilla]

Carlito will likely find a way to squirrel his way in-I think they want to make him work for it for a week or two...

It's pretty much a lock that Money in the bank will be interpromotional, but what else is interesting is how much they've been doing that-the Chavo-Orton thing, SNME's match with HHH and CEna facing the Smackdown guys. There are those who are speculating that the brands may (eventually) re-mesh.


*POtential Spolier below, reported on PWInsider.com*



Expect to see the new fella "Giant Singh" at Mania getting involved with the Undertaker. Singh is enormous (Was the ping-pong guy in the new 'longest yard' movie) He's not said to be a very good worker, but he's huge. He'll be attached to Davari and be involved at Mania.

Can't wait for that....although I've not seen him work, I can't see this going much better than El Gigante....

But, I digress...

[askewcore]

You'd have to make a concious effort to be worse than El Gigante. Anyone who doesnt have a body suit with muscles spray painted on would automatically be better.

Putting the brands back together is a smart move.

[Kyle]

I had read that the Money in the Bank was going to be interpromotional this year, but then again that report also said Carlito was going to be in the match with RVD and Benjamin from Raw (if you're curious, the Smackdown guys suggested were Hardy, Finlay and Lashley). Anyway, on Raw they clearly said the winner was going to get a WWE title shot and nothing on the website suggests this is a interpromotional match either, so I'm guessing it's just Raw.

I don't think it'll be three from Smackdown, because I still have to believe at this point Carlito and Masters are locks to be in the match. But after those two, RAW doesn't really have a 6th guy to bring into the match outside of Chavo (who already lost his qualifying match) or one of Big Show & Kane (who no one should want to see in a ladder match)

So I could see them working a gimmick where Vince McMahon shows up backstage at Smackdown and as a "token of good will" offers Teddy Long the chance to put one Smackdown star in this RAW specialty match. If that's the case, it'll be Matt Hardy. Not because he has any chance to win or he'll be getting a push. But because he knows how to work ladder matches and it'll make it look better.
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That, or Vince decides since the Spirit Squad have so much team spirit, they count as a cohesive unit and all of them get the last spot.

[Kugzilla]

There has been talk that Masters will be part of a duo that challenges for teh Tag titles...perhaps, again, with Carlito. That's just a rumor, but man could that suck.

[commish13]

Enough with the brand split ending crap already. Together or separate, if the writing sucks, the show will suck. Both shows have talent pools that are plenty deep, and SD uses theirs a bit better, but the problem has nothing to do with the fact that the brands are separated.

Please understand that, everybody ever in the history of ever.

[askewcore]

But if they join them together again, it will just give them more possible angles. The shows wouldnt be so repetitive and predictable.

It's really annoying how you state whatever you say about wrestling as fact.

[commish13]

Because that is fucking fact. Just because there are more people available doesn't mean it's going to stop being predictable. Putting everybody together on one show isn't going to all of a sudden make the garbage writers into brilliant storytellers. That's just not how things work.

Things are repetitive and predictable because they refuse to try to make new stars or even put new, talented people on TV at all -- they choose to stay the boring, uncreative course. That wouldn't change if the brand went back together. You might get some matchups that haven't happened in a while and some stuff that's never happened before, but after a couple months, they'd be right back to having used up all of their matches and it will just get repetitive and predictable again, and that's assuming that for a while it stops being predictable.

In the end, it's common sense. Just because there are more people doesn't mean things will be more gooder. More gooder booking equals more gooder programming, and that's pure fact, no matter how you look at it.

[Skeet Slambone]

Anyone else see the ole double turn coming in the HHH/Cena match? The climate is perfect for it. Some people always cheer HHH and putting the belt back on Cena has more people booing. HHH always seems to stink as a face though.

I kinda smell it coming.

[Kugzilla]

Anyone else see the ole double turn coming in the HHH/Cena match? The climate is perfect for it. Some people always cheer HHH and putting the belt back on Cena has more people booing. HHH always seems to stink as a face though.

I kinda smell it coming.

Yeah, that could be cool, but the only problem is that HHH doesn't really want to be a face, as it would mean that he has to sell for heels and occasionally get his ass kicked. His promo on RAW was word for word scripted to do nothing but tickle his own nuts and crap on Cena, which the fans don't need any help with.

I don't see the brand separation ending anytime soon either, though they are clearly doing more crossbrand stuff then they used to. The creative side of things will be a problem regardless of the size of their talent pool. I agree that a bigger pool could potentially mix things up and show is some stuff that we haven't seen of late, but they have to get creative to be creative.

[Kyle]

Just added:

World Tag Team Titles:
Carlito & Chris Masters vs. Kane & The Big Show (c)

Guess that means no Carlito for MITB

Also probably means Smackdown will get three MITB representatives as well.

[Kyle]

Wrestlemania XXII
Live on PPV from Chicago, Illinois
Sunday April 2, 2006
7 PM ET.
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WWE Hall of Fame Ceremony:
Inductees:
Bret Hart
Eddie Guerrero
Tony Atlas
Mean Gene Okerlund
Sensational Sherri Martel
(More to be added...)
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Official Card

World Heavyweight Championship - Triple Threat:
Rey Mysterio vs. Randy Orton vs. Kurt Angle (c)
WWE Heavyweight Championship:
Triple H vs. John Cena (c)

Vince McMahon vs. Shawn Michaels

Hardcore Match:
Edge vs. Mick Foley

Casket Match:
Mark Henry vs. The Undertaker

World Tag Team Championships:
Carlito & Chris Masters vs. The Big Show & Kane(c)

WWE United States Championship:
John Bradshaw Leyfield vs. Chris Benoit (c)

Second Annual Money in the Bank Ladder Match:
Rob Van Dam vs. Shelton Benjamin vs. Ric Flair vs. Three Smackdown opponents
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Still rumored:
Trish Stratus vs. Mickie James
Candice Michelle vs. Torrie Wilson
Booker T. vs. The Boogeyman
Lashley vs. Finlay

And there's been pretty much nothing mentioned about MNM defending their tag titles, or Helms defending the Cruiserweight title as of yet, but you have to imagine both will be on the card.

[commish13]

As of 3/11, Booker vs. Boogeyman is at Saturday Night's Main Event, so you can take it off the "rumored" WrestleMania matches.

[Loser In Life]

Yes! Taker vs. Henry casket match.:icon_mrgr

[CM Mark]

SPOILER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
















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The current plan is to have RVD win the MITB match. Have him challenge HH at One Night Stand, and win the WWE Title that night, only to have HHH envoke his rematch clause and win the title back the next night. This comes from someone who works for WWE. I can't name names, but trust me, that this is fact, for the time being at least.

[Sutsu]

Gally, I REALLY hope that's not true. While getting the title is a big honor and the crowds would go absolutely crazy to see RVD win it at an ECW show, I don't see it as anything more than a slap in the face to win it one night and drop it the next. If nothing else, it you would probably have HHH say that RVD had to win it ECW style because he's not talented enough to win it in a WWE ring with WWE rules.

[Steam]

Looks to be a pretty brutal card in terms of Wrestlemania at least. The triple threat and Money in the Bank (should be interesting to see if Flair can put on another great performance, Shelton must assuredly will) should save it but some of the other matches just have awful written all over them. I guess people will tune in just to see Cena get his ass kicked (he should get his ass kicked so bad that he is forced to sit a few months out and regroup).

[commish13]

I dunno... while the buildup stinks, most of the matches look like they will deliver. The only ones that will more than likely be bad are the Casket match and the World Tag Title match. Otherwise they'll all be good to great.

[Kyle]

The RVD thing makes sense. I think they'll have a tough time selling another ECW PPV this year, but an RVD title shot could get it done.

And you know HHH is looking to pad his title reign numbers so he can eventually pass Flair, so I'm sure he doesn't care about giving the belt up for one night.

I wonder if Super Crazy will get the ECW PPV push too. The guy's been one of the best parts of Smackdown over the last few months.

Looks to be a pretty brutal card in terms of Wrestlemania at least. The triple threat and Money in the Bank (should be interesting to see if Flair can put on another great performance, Shelton must assuredly will) should save it but some of the other matches just have awful written all over them. I guess people will tune in just to see Cena get his ass kicked (he should get his ass kicked so bad that he is forced to sit a few months out and regroup).

The biggest problem on the card is HHH/Cena and that'll probably kill the card since it'll easily be what the show is based around. I do like the triple threat. They've basically set it up where any of the three can win. I'm curious to see Edge/Foley. If Foley's in any kind of shape, that match could steal the show.

[tysonpunchinguterus]

I'm looking forward to the Edge/Foley, HBK/Vince, and Money in the Bank matches. Everything else seems either average or mediocre. I don't mind HHH in the main event, but I do mind Cena being his opponent. I don't ever want to see Randy Orton in a main event at Wrestle Mania and I don't like Rey Mysterio much at all, so that match doesn't do anything for me.

I might just skip WM again this year and watch the Sopranos instead.

[Kyle]

I do like the Smackdown title match...really any of them could legitimately win. WWE could go with Rey Mysterio for the big Eddie tribute to end WM this year. Or they could go with Orton to build towards a program with Batista once he comes back. Or they could have Angle retain and lead to a final blowoff match for the title between him and Undertaker after their two great matches earlier.

I don't mind HHH in the main event, but I do mind Cena being his opponent.

I mind both of them. HHH is boring as hell and Cena can barely wrestle. This'll be almost exactly like HHH/Batista at WM last year, and I hated that match.

[Kyle]

Updated Card as of 3/17

Wrestlemania XXII
Live on PPV from Chicago, Illinois
Sunday April 2, 2006
7 PM ET.
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WWE Hall of Fame Ceremony:
Inductees:
Bret Hart (inducted by Stone Cold Steve Austin)
Eddie Guerrero (inducted by Chavo Guerrero, Chris Benoit, and Rey Mysterio)
Mean Gene Okerlund (inducted by Hulk Hogan)
Sensational Sherri Martel (inducted by Ted DiBiase)
Verne Gagne (inducted by Greg Gagne)
Tony Atlas
(More to be added...)
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Official Card

World Heavyweight Championship - Triple Threat:
Rey Mysterio vs. Randy Orton vs. Kurt Angle (c)

WWE Heavyweight Championship:
Triple H vs. John Cena (c)

Vince McMahon vs. Shawn Michaels

Hardcore Match:
Edge vs. Mick Foley

Casket Match:
Mark Henry vs. The Undertaker

World Tag Team Championships:
Carlito & Chris Masters vs. The Big Show & Kane(c)

WWE United States Championship:
John Bradshaw Leyfield vs. Chris Benoit (c)

Second Annual Money in the Bank Ladder Match:
Rob Van Dam vs. Shelton Benjamin vs. Ric Flair vs. Matt Hardy vs. Finlay vs. ???????
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Rumored Matches:
-Paul London vs. Gregory Helms (this match will happen for the Cruiserweight title...it's just not certain whether it will be at WM, on Heat before WM, or on Smackdown (or Velocity) next week. This could very well turn into another Cruiserweight open, too.
-MNM vs. The Mexicools
-Trish Stratus vs. Mickie James
-Candice Michelle vs. Torrie Wilson

If all four of those rumored matches take place, that's bring the match count to 12 which is in the ballpark of how many matches usually appear on Wrestlemania. The question is who they decide to go with for the last MITB spot. You have to think both Lashley and Booker T. will both be on the card. If Lashley gets it, they could always add Booker T. vs. The Boogeyman, since it fits the current storyline. If Booker gets it, then I don't know how they'd work Lashley into the card.

[Kyle]

Booker T. vs. The Boogeyman is officially added to the card.

That also means it's almost a lock Lashley is the last guy for MITB.

And Trish/Mickie was setup on SNME for Wrestlemania, but hasn't been added yet.

So the only real questions about the card revolve around the Cruiserweight and WWE Tag Team Titles. Helms will probably either defend against Paul London straight up, or in another Cruiserweight Open. There is no sign of who if anyone MNM will defend their tag titles against, though.

[Awesome Man]

I really hope RVD wins the money in the bank match...it is about god damn time they give him the push that he deserves. that guy has worked his ass off for YEARS and everyone loves him. he needs the title at least once in his career. i think he's earned it

[noHundred]

wrestlemania just isn't what it used to be...now every TNA pay per view is better than any WWE one...they actualy try to put on entertaining matches and dont have ridiculous story lines

[Kyle]

wrestlemania just isn't what it used to be...now every TNA pay per view is better than any WWE one...they actualy try to put on entertaining matches and dont have ridiculous story lines

No they don't. TNA puts on a ton of spotfests for the most part (with the exception of Joe, Styles, Daniels, and Christian who actually map out matches pretty well), which is cool to see every once in a while, but not every other match. And their heavyweight division stinks on ice, and as if Jarrett wasn't bad enough, it's about to get worse with Scott Steiner coming back.

That said, I agree this Wrestlemania doesn't look great on paper. Mostly because Cena/HHH is the headliner.

[noHundred]

in some cases i will agree that some TNA matches are just a bunch of high spots strung together but normally it is really more than that...joe, AJ styles, Christopher Daniels, Chris Sabin, Petey Williams, etc are all very talented guys that know how to tell a story in a match without talking on a microphone weeks before hand

and yes...the heavyweight division is lacking...i agree....when steiner came out at Destination X i got up and walked out of the room...but I dont think he will play that large of a roll...love him or hate him Jarrett is a good wrestler and so is Rhino, Cristian, Abyss, Bobby Roode, Sabu, Sting, Hardy, etc....

but yes...TNA needs work, but thats anything...give it more a chance

[Steam]

I really hope RVD wins the money in the bank match...it is about god damn time they give him the push that he deserves. that guy has worked his ass off for YEARS and everyone loves him. he needs the title at least once in his career. i think he's earned it

He's "earned" it? How? By delivering stiff kicks and generic spot fest moves?

Guys like Ted Dibiase, Tito Santana, Rick Martel (AWA doesn't count especially when they make him look like a huge bitch against Stan Hansen), Owen Hart, etc etc all WORKED their ass and never got to hold the belt. Maybe if RVD didn't constantly get injured due to his horrible style he would be able to stick around and gain some momentum. I remember his feud with HHH three years ago or whatever it was and it was TERRIBLE.

However, I think he will win the match and bore me to tears this summer.

[Steam]

wrestlemania just isn't what it used to be...now every TNA pay per view is better than any WWE one...they actualy try to put on entertaining matches and dont have ridiculous story lines

That is a horrible misstatement.

Every TNA PPV has a few very solid matches but the rest is pure shit. I will take this Wrestlemania card (as subpar as it is) over any TNA card.

JEFF JARRETT AND SCOTT STEINER!?!?!??!?!?!??!?!?!?!??! YEEECCCCCHHHHH!!!!!

[Kyle]

Wrestlemania XXII
Live on PPV from Chicago, Illinois
Sunday April 2, 2006
7 PM ET.
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WWE Hall of Fame Ceremony:
Inductees:
Bret Hart (inducted by Stone Cold Steve Austin)
Eddie Guerrero (inducted by Chavo Guerrero, Chris Benoit, and Rey Mysterio)
Mean Gene Okerlund (inducted by Hulk Hogan)
Sensational Sherri Martel (inducted by Ted DiBiase)
Verne Gagne (inducted by Greg Gagne)
The Blackjacks (inducted by Bobby Heenan)
Tony Atlas
(More to be added...)
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Official Card

World Heavyweight Championship - Triple Threat:
Rey Mysterio vs. Randy Orton vs. Kurt Angle (c)

WWE Heavyweight Championship:
Triple H vs. John Cena (c)

No Holds Barred:
Vince McMahon vs. Shawn Michaels

Hardcore Match:
Edge vs. Mick Foley

Casket Match:
Mark Henry vs. The Undertaker

World Tag Team Championships:
Carlito & Chris Masters vs. The Big Show & Kane(c)

WWE United States Championship:
John Bradshaw Leyfield vs. Chris Benoit (c)

Second Annual Money in the Bank Ladder Match:
Rob Van Dam vs. Shelton Benjamin vs. Ric Flair vs. Matt Hardy vs. Finlay vs. Bobby Lashley

The Boogeyman vs. Booker T.

WWE Women's Championship:
Mickie James vs. Trish Stratus (c)

Playboy Pillow Fight:
Candice Michelle vs. Torrie Wilson
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Still matches in the works for MNM or Gregory Helms to defend their titles as of yet.

[Kyle]

Doesn't look like the Cruiserweight Title will be defended. There's a story on WWE.com that says Helms is out for at least a month after he had surgery to fix his broken nose. He said he can't endure contact to it during that period of time and won't be able to wrestle.

That probably also means we'll get a four-way tag match between hopefully MNM, The Mexicools, London & Kendrick, and Kash & Noble, although the fucking Gymini will probably get in ahead of Kash & Noble.

[Kyle]

I've seen enough, I'm ready to make my picks.

Torrie Wilson defeats Candice Michelle - Stacy Keibler makes her final WWE appearence and helps Torrie win.

Paul London & Brian Kendrick defeat MNM for the WWE Tag Team Titles - This finally gives MNM another tag team to wrestle.

Trish Stratus defeats Mickie James - Trish won't lose the belt until she faces Melina again

Booker T. & Sharmell defeat The Boogeyman - Booker steals the win, Boogeyman captures Sharmell and regurgitates worms on her after the match

RVD wins Money in the Bank - I'll go along with the rumor that RVD wins, and uses MITB at One Night Stand this year. By the way, it's a horrible idea. As an ECW fan, I don't want the ECW show centered around the WWE title. And probably most people will feel the same way. They booed Rey Mysterio last year just for using his WWE moves

Chris Benoit defeats JBL

Big Show & Kane defeat Carlito & Masters - Big Show & Kane seem to always lose at WM...this year, Vince gives them their moment and has them destroy Carlito & Masters, who'll eventually win the belts, but not at WM.

Undertaker defeats Mark Henry

Mick Foley defeats Edge - Like Big Show & Kane, Mick gets his Wrestlemania moment too...doesn't reallly hurt Edge anyway, because he's out of the title picture at least through Summerslam with Triple H back as the top heel. Edge has plenty of time to build himself back up.

Shawn Michaels defeats Vince McMahon

Triple H defeats John Cena

Rey Mysterio defeats Randy Orton and Kurt Angle - Probably the toughest to pick, and my pick for match of the night. WWE hasn't tipped their hand on this, but it's hard to believe they'd have two heels, Orton and HHH both win the titles at WM, where heels usually never win the belt. The other thing that usually never happens is the champion retaining the belt. That leaves Rey Rey, who's my pick. Chavo Guerrero comes down and attacks Randy Orton, setting him up for Rey to hit the 619 and pin him for the title. That leaves WWE with the ability to do either Mysterio/Angle (Angle never lost) and Orton/Chavo at the next PPV, or the Triple Threat rematch (Angle/Mysterio/Orton). Either way, my guess is we're left with Team Eddie celebrating to end the night.

If Angle happens to end up winning, we'd probably get Angle/Taker III
If Orton happens to winning, we'd probably get Angle/Orton, or the Triple Threat rematch

[Baby Evil]

I've seen enough, I'm ready to make my picks.

Torrie Wilson defeats Candice Michelle - Stacy Keibler makes her final WWE appearence and helps Torrie win.

Paul London & Brian Kendrick defeat MNM for the WWE Tag Team Titles - This finally gives MNM another tag team to wrestle.

Trish Stratus defeats Mickie James - Trish won't lose the belt until she faces Melina again

Booker T. & Sharmell defeat The Boogeyman - Booker steals the win, Boogeyman captures Sharmell and regurgitates worms on her after the match

RVD wins Money in the Bank - I'll go along with the rumor that RVD wins, and uses MITB at One Night Stand this year. By the way, it's a horrible idea. As an ECW fan, I don't want the ECW show centered around the WWE title. And probably most people will feel the same way. They booed Rey Mysterio last year just for using his WWE moves

Chris Benoit defeats JBL

Big Show & Kane defeat Carlito & Masters - Big Show & Kane seem to always lose at WM...this year, Vince gives them their moment and has them destroy Carlito & Masters, who'll eventually win the belts, but not at WM.

Undertaker defeats Mark Henry

Mick Foley defeats Edge - Like Big Show & Kane, Mick gets his Wrestlemania moment too...doesn't reallly hurt Edge anyway, because he's out of the title picture at least through Summerslam with Triple H back as the top heel. Edge has plenty of time to build himself back up.

Shawn Michaels defeats Vince McMahon

Triple H defeats John Cena

Rey Mysterio defeats Randy Orton and Kurt Angle - Probably the toughest to pick, and my pick for match of the night. WWE hasn't tipped their hand on this, but it's hard to believe they'd have two heels, Orton and HHH both win the titles at WM, where heels usually never win the belt. The other thing that usually never happens is the champion retaining the belt. That leaves Rey Rey, who's my pick. Chavo Guerrero comes down and attacks Randy Orton, setting him up for Rey to hit the 619 and pin him for the title. That leaves WWE with the ability to do either Mysterio/Angle (Angle never lost) and Orton/Chavo at the next PPV, or the Triple Threat rematch (Angle/Mysterio/Orton). Either way, my guess is we're left with Team Eddie celebrating to end the night.

If Angle happens to end up winning, we'd probably get Angle/Taker III
If Orton happens to winning, we'd probably get Angle/Orton, or the Triple Threat rematch

I mostly agree accept:

Mickie James def. Trish Stratus - Trish needs a new rivalry

Carlito and Masters def. Kane and Big Show - There is no reason for them to hold the belts any longer...Kane and Big Show meet at the next RAW PPV

Cena def. Triple H

Randy Orton def. Kurt Angle and Rey Mysterio

To setup Cena moving to Smackdown, and Orton to RAW. Orton will then lose in the next PPV to Triple H, and Cena will make a heel turn and get beat down by either Rey Mysterio or Angle.

[CM Mark]

I agree about the bad idea of RVD using the MitB shot at One Night Stand, but god damn it will be great to see RVD with the WWE strap won't it?

[Perch1019]

This is such an original ending to a RAW before a PPV. Have HHH come out and distroy his opponent with a sledge hammer.
How the hell could the WWE put this as the final lead up to the biggest PPV of the year? I just watched McMahon and Cena do a test of strength for 5 mins. Ugh. I was considering getting the PPV but I dont know now.

[SpookyMulder]

Are you FUCKIN nuts!?!?!!? Why would ANYONE pay for a mediocre AT BEST product. Vince is a lot like Hoo Hoo, no more passion to put on a good product. U wanna spend your money?? Might I suggest all girl roller derby. For the bargain basement price of, I don't know, 10-12 bucks, you could POTENTIALLY have a hot chick fall on you lap. Here's some links to get ya started:

www.txrollergirls.com (http://www.txrollergirls.com) LOTS of hotness there.
www.gothamgirlsrollerderby.com (http://www.gothamgirlsrollerderby.com) NYC's local derby league.

Have fun. Trust me, I do. :icon_wink

[Chester'sLiver]

I am ordering the WM, but not for Cena Vs HHH. I am ordering for the MITB match (witch RVD has to win). I want to see Orton win the title, but they are doing a good job of not making it obvious on who is gonna win that one. I think there were like one or two other matches as well so I will throw out the 50 bucks and watch.

[Kyle]

I have no interest in anything on RAW's side of the card except for Edge vs. Foley.

But I do want to see Angle vs. Orton vs. Rey, Benoit vs. JBL, and I hope they give MNM a tag title match, so I'll probably watch Smackdown this Friday and make my decision off of that.

Whether I order it or not, and even if it ends up sucking, I'll still by the DVD when it comes out to add to the collection.

[Skeet Slambone]

Up until Raw last week I sensed a double switch in the HHH/Cena match. It could still happen, but it doesn't look like it will.

[Ploppy]

I was going to order it, only because I thought Bret Hart was going to be at the event. He is only going to be at the HOF ceremony and fly out before WM starts. To me, Bret Hart being there would have made it a classic Wrestlemania for me that I would have gladly paid to see. But I'm not coughing up $50.00 now to watch a glorified RAW.

EDIT: Right after I wrote this, I realized that I missed RAW this week because I was out of town. I went to WWE.com to see who the latest HOF entry is and who do I find? William "The Refrigerator" Perry. What the Fuck??? While I fondly remember Superbowl XX and the memories of #72, this fat motherfucker only appeared in a WWE ring once and lost. I thought they were trying to make the HOF seem legit. If they wanted to "honor" him somehow, bring back the Slammy's and give him one. As much as I disagree with inducting Eddie Gurrero in(they are milking him for everything they can. Owen Hart is just as dead as he is, died during a PPV in a WWE ring no less, and he hasn't been inducted) at least he was part of the industry. Perry was a gimmick in the NFL and a gimmick for the WWF at the time. Now they are dragging him out and because they are in Chicago? Fuck, just let him make an appearence at Wrestlemania, show a montage and move along. Don't put him in the HOF for a cheap pop. This is bullshit. I would completly understand if Bret Hart said "Fuck this", and didn't bother with it.

[CM Mark]

I thought they were trying to make the HOF seem legit.
Two words: Pete Rose

[commish13]

They're in the CELEBRITY WING... because they're... celebrities

makes sense to me

[Kyle]

Alright, Smackdown this past Friday sold me on the show. I shall be ordering and watching tonight.

I think Heat starts on WWE.com at 6 and the PPV starts at 7 (instead of the usual 8 PM start)

[Perch1019]

I got an 18 pack of beer and a purchased PPV.

[Aaron Burrito]

Anyone know if this wil be on paltalk?

[Perch1019]

Anyone know if this wil be on paltalk?

The PPVs usually are but the quality sucks ass. MOst of the time the audio doesnt match up and even if you have a green membership, the video is choppy.

[Kyle]

I got an 18 pack of beer and a purchased PPV.

I've got a 30 pack in the trunk of my car but I was saving that for Opening Day tomorrow. Maybe I'll crack it open early.

I'm actually pretty excited for tonight. I'll post some updates, as I'm sure some others may, in case some of you guys didn't order it. Pre-Show should be starting in about 4 minutes...there's usually a match, which my guess will probably be MNM defending the Tag Titles.

[Perch1019]

This pre-show is terrible. Its pre-recorded in the WWE studios. Kinda lame that they would have this before their biggest PPV of the year. Oh well, at least it gives me a chance to catch up.
Im gonna be writing a running diary of this ala The Sports Guy on ESPN.com. I should be pretty bombed so im sure it will get humorous. Ill post the link when im done.

EDIT: This feature on the HHH and Cena main event makes me believe that Cenas gonna win. ugh

[Kyle]

This pre-show is terrible. Its pre-recorded in the WWE studios. Kinda lame that they would have this before their biggest PPV of the year. Oh well, at least it gives me a chance to catch up.
Im gonna be writing a running diary of this ala The Sports Guy on ESPN.com. I should be pretty bombed so im sure it will get humorous. Ill post the link when im done.

EDIT: This feature on the HHH and Cena main event makes me believe that Cenas gonna win. ugh

Yeah, I'm disappointed with the pre-show. Hopefully that means they'll squeeze MNM on the card. It's a crime they don't have a match.

The only way Cena wins is if McMahon comes down and screws HHH, a la Austin/Rock at WM X7. I think that's doubtful, so I picked HHH to win.

[Kyle]

Yeah, I'm disappointed with the pre-show. Hopefully that means they'll squeeze MNM on the card. It's a crime they don't have a match.

The only way Cena wins is if McMahon comes down and screws HHH, a la Austin/Rock at WM X7. I think that's doubtful, so I picked HHH to win.

Found this on the PWInsider live arena report:

"- They are holding an Inter-brand 18-Man Battle Royale for the fans in the building (and probably the DVD again). Participants included: Eugene, Viscera, Goldust, Gene Snitsky, Sylvan, Tyson Tomko, Lance Cade, Trevor Murdoch, Matt Striker, Super Crazy, Psicosis, Sho Funaki, Steven Richards, Johnny Nitro, Joey Mercury, Road Warrior Animal, William Regal, and Simon Dean. The wrestlers had T-shirts on representing their brand, similar to last year. Simon Dean grabbed the mic and tried to speak, but was immediately thrown out.

- Viscera won the battle royale, last eliminating Gene Snitsky. Viscera also eliminated MNM near the end. Viscera grabbed Lilian Garcia and went to kiss her. She started to protest, but then let him, and the crowd popped for it."

So much for that...not only could MNM not get on the card as Tag Champs, but they lost to Viscera in a dark match battle royale.

[Mooseman]

Enough of this palaver, lets get the show on the road

[Kyle]

Tag Titles are up first: Show & Kane vs. Carlito & Masters

YES! No Coach in the booth! Already this PPV is looking better.

[Mooseman]

Wow first time for a traditional 2 vs 2 tag title match in 7 seven years. I think that says alot of about the lack of tag division right now.

[Perch1019]

Ugh. I hate this match

[askewcore]

Ugh. I hate this match

I really like Show, Kane and Carlito, but Masters roons it for them all.

[Kyle]

Big Show & Kane retain, with Kane pinning Carlito...Masters hit Carlito by mistake...they'll probably tease that feud.

[Perch1019]

And theres the coach

[askewcore]

And theres the coach

oooh, a hard hitting interview from the coach with shawn michaels....:icon_roll

[askewcore]

Money in the Bank. I wonder if RVD is gonna win.

[Perch1019]

WOW! Lillan is so fucking hot!

[Mooseman]

oooh, a hard hitting interview from the coach with shawn michaels....:icon_roll
Pretty good promo from Michaels.

MITB match up next

[Kyle]

Money in the Bank coming up

[Kyle]

HAHA...Cole calls Hardy the favorite. Of the six, he is absolutely the least likely to win.

[Mooseman]

I don't see anyone from Smackdown winning this one.

WOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

[askewcore]

HAHA...Cole calls Hardy the favorite. Of the six, he is absolutely the least likely to win.

Yeah no doubt. Lets at least hope he does and take at least one really good move.

I don't see anyone from Smackdown winning this one.

Lashley has the only chance, just because he's such a juicehead and within a year Vince might give him a shot. But I doubt it. This is RVD all the way I think.

[Kyle]

Yeah no doubt. Lets at least hope he does and take at least one really good move.



Lashley has the only chance, just because he's such a juicehead and within a year Vince might give him a shot. But I doubt it.

Honestly, if I was Hardy, I'd mail it in...he could kill himself in this match and he'd still be jobbing to Road Warrior Animal next week. Agreed about Lashley being the only SD guy with a shot.

[Perch1019]

Flairs really hurt. You can see the ref do the X

[askewcore]

Flairs really hurt. You can see the ref do the X

60 year old men arent supposed to do things like that.

[Mooseman]

Looks like a work to me.

[Kyle]

Nah, it's a work...Flair's coming back at the end of the match...they're just saving him from the big spots.

[askewcore]

I dont like how Cole and Tazz are so openly pro-SD. It gets kinda annoying.

[Mooseman]

Nah, it's a work...Flair's coming back at the end of the match...they're just saving him from the big spots.
Back alot sooner than I was expecting.

[askewcore]

the crowd really popped when flair was just climbing the ladder

[Mooseman]

Holy shit!!! Too bad the camera wasn't completely on RVD

[askewcore]

knew that side effecr off the ladder was coming, looked good though.

[Perch1019]

Yessssss! Rvd Wins!

[askewcore]

rvd wins. good match. kinda short though.

[Mooseman]

Mr. Money in the Bank, RVD!!!

[Kyle]

RVD wins MITB...fun match...Shelton's fucking amazing with some of his spots. If only he could talk...

[Perch1019]

did you see the bump hardy took falling off that ladder?

[Kyle]

I wonder if we're going to see some VanDaminators with the briefcase in future matches.

[Kyle]

did you see the bump hardy took falling off that ladder?

Yeah, fucking sick.

[askewcore]

Batista poppin up eh? bit of a surprise.

[Perch1019]

Is it just me or does Batista look like he could be the Rocks twin

[Perch1019]

No hitman? This is bullshit.
Im starting to think hes gonna have a part in the HBK/Vince match

[Kyle]

Is it just me or does Batista look like he could be the Rocks twin

He does have that "man of indiscriminate race" look.

[askewcore]

Im starting to think hes gonna have a part in the HBK/Vince match

You read my mind.

[Kyle]

No hitman? This is bullshit.
Im starting to think hes gonna have a part in the HBK/Vince match

He said all along he wouldn't appear at WM, but I suppose we'll find out.

[askewcore]

I'm getting pretty sick of all this eddie shit. how come owen hart didnt get it so good when he died in the ring?

[Kyle]

I'm getting pretty sick of all this eddie shit. how come owen hart didnt get it so good when he died in the ring?

Because there was a lot of bad blood between WWE and the Hart family over the way Owen died. They were sued by Owen's widow for negligence, and WWE probably didn't want to portray an uncaring attitude towards it going into a lawsuit.

[Perch1019]

I'm getting pretty sick of all this eddie shit. how come owen hart didnt get it so good when he died in the ring?

You know, i never realized that untilk you just said it. Owen got a tribute show and that was the end of it. I guess owen wasnt over enough.

JBL parades himself around as this cowboy but is from NYC? What gives?

[askewcore]

Ah okay. That explains it.

OT as it is, did you guys just see the announcement that there's no O&A show tomorrow cause Ant is stuck in Puerto Rico?

[Perch1019]

He said all along he wouldn't appear at WM, but I suppose we'll find out.

He also said he would never have anything to do with the WWF as well. I dont see why he would take part in last night and then not show up for this. I had thought a few weeks back that he would help HBK and now im pretty convinced of it.

[Kyle]

I'm calling it right now....JBL goes for the clothesline from hell, Benoit counters it into the crossface for the win.

[askewcore]

I'm calling it right now....JBL goes for the clothesline from hell, Benoit counters it into the crossface for the win.


Goin out on a limb there Kyle.

[Perch1019]

OT as it is, did you guys just see the announcement that there's no O&A show tomorrow cause Ant is stuck in Puerto Rico?

Fuck that. Get that fancy germ-a-phobe on the phone or put him in some run down studio in that country. I cant stand having to listen to some other morrning show one more day

[askewcore]

Fuck that. Get that fancy germ-a-phobe on the phone or put him in some run down studio in that country. I cant stand having to listen to some other morrning show one more day

I think it's a April's Fools joke, but who knows?

On topic, what in the hell is the crippler crossface supposed to hurt? I was trying to figure this out with some friends, is it your neck? your back? your shoulder?

[Mooseman]

On topic, what in the hell is the crippler crossface supposed to hurt? I was trying to figure this out with some friends, is it your neck? your back? your shoulder?
I think its your arm and shoulder.

[askewcore]

Boring Match

[Perch1019]

I think it's a April's Fools joke, but who knows?

On topic, what in the hell is the crippler crossface supposed to hurt? I was trying to figure this out with some friends, is it your neck? your back? your shoulder?

Its April 2nd

The crossface is so lame. You could easily get out of it and I dont see how it hurts at all. Maybe when my brother gets home ill lock it on him and let you know

[Mooseman]

Boring Match
I figured this would be a good time to finish my laundry.

[Kyle]

Boring Match

I disagree...I've really liked this so far.

[Fatty_Pneumonia]

so for us po people who didn't order it, what the hell is goin on?

[askewcore]

wow, i didnt see that coming...seriously.

[Kyle]

Fuck, JBL won...got my first prediction wrong...hopefully this means Benoit will be bumped back up to the Heavyweights, but I doubt it.

[Mooseman]

so for us po people who didn't order it, what the hell is goin on?
Kane & Big Show , RVD, and JBL have won their matches so far.

[Perch1019]

Hardcore match!

[askewcore]

edge and foley is gonna be before the fucking boogeyman? i was really hoping booker and boogeyman would fight now so i could watch the simpsons in peace.

[Perch1019]

Im gonna go out on a limb here myself. The Spanish announce table will not survive this match

[freak8]

anyone have a live stream of this?

[Fatty_Pneumonia]

thanks mooseman...

[Kyle]

edge and foley is gonna be before the fucking boogeyman? i was really hoping booker and boogeyman would fight now so i could watch the simpsons in peace.

They might not even have that match...Boogeyman tore a tricep in a house show match this week...if they do have it, it'll only be like 3 minutes, tops.

[Fatty_Pneumonia]

i am...............

THE BOOGYMAN

[Kyle]

I hope Foley comes out as Cactus Jack

[Kyle]

Yeah, Joey Styles!

[Mooseman]

Joey Styles!!!!

[Kyle]

Anyone got an over/under on Oh My Gods?

[Mooseman]

Wow Lita is a slut, but I'd still do her

[Kyle]

God damn, Foley's fatter than ever.

[Perch1019]

Anyone got an over/under on Oh My Gods?

7.
I also got my money on the spaniard table taking a hit here.

[askewcore]

They might not even have that match...Boogeyman tore a tricep in a house show match this week...if they do have it, it'll only be like 3 minutes, tops.

Oh thank god!!!!!!!

[Mooseman]

Wow barbed wire under the jacket

[askewcore]

"barbed wire will slice skin, mutilate muscles and tear tendons."

Joey Alliteration rules.

[Perch1019]

"When metal meets flesh, metal always wins"
Thanks Joey

[Sack of Chisels]

anyone have a live stream of this?
I've been looking for an hour and a half, since effective march 31st my box isn't working anymore. but not much luck at all online except for some very choppy video buffering constantly, pretty much worthless.

It seems like wwe might have done something to prevent streams of this.

[Mooseman]

I've been looking for an hour and a half, since effective march 31st my box isn't working anymore. but not much luck at all online except for some very choppy video buffering constantly, pretty much worthless.

It seems like wwe might have done something to prevent streams of this.
Check paltalk, usualy a room in there has it

[Perch1019]

Wow, wasnt expecting that spot from edge!

[Mooseman]

Oh My God!!!!!

[Perch1019]

That was awesome!

[Kyle]

Holy Shit that was awesome.

Edge wins...both go through the flaming table.

[Kyle]

That could be the match of the night...I give Edge a ton of credit...the only guy I've ever seen wrestle with barb-wire without a shirt is Sabu.

[Perch1019]

boogieman time

[askewcore]

What a fucking match. That was almost worth the price of the show...which was nothing but you know what i mean...

FUCKING BOOGEYMAN TIME, FUCK FUCK FUCK.

[Perch1019]

That could be the match of the night...I give Edge a ton of credit...the only guy I've ever seen wrestle with barb-wire without a shirt is Sabu.

yea I was thinking the same thing. He took the tacks and everything. Gotta give him a lot of credit for that.

Could we please have a wrestlemania without Mae Young

[Kyle]

That's pretty funny...Booker walking down the bad gimmick hallway. DiBiase still rules.

[Mooseman]

Big props to Edge, that was a great match

[askewcore]

Im gonna go take a nice long shit during this match.

[Mooseman]

At Backlash I'll take what's mine - Cena

Hmmm spoiler????

[Kyle]

At Backlash I'll take what's mine - Cena

Hmmm spoiler????

Looks like it.

Booker vs. Boogeyman up next...if this goes over 3 minutes, I'll be pissed...I couldn't care less.

[Perch1019]

Its time for the match with the two nig... i mean, the booker t/boogieman match

[Perch1019]

Why the fuck is stupid Womans Final Four on ESPNHD and the baseball game is on Espn2?

[Mooseman]

does the black bitch have to wear that fucking crown all the time???

[Perch1019]

THis is so fucking awful and disgusting

[Kyle]

and here come the worms

[Perch1019]

For no amount of money or fame would I walk around eating worms

[Fatty_Pneumonia]

how far booker t has fallen...

[Kyle]

Why why why would they let the Boogeyman win.

[Mooseman]

If he lost the worms, I think he would be a pretty cool dude

[Kyle]

Hardcore lesbo action up next....hopefully.

[Nimrod]

Nevermind....

[Mooseman]

Ooops somebody fucked up

[Perch1019]

This is so bad. Is Trish hurt?

[Mooseman]

Yea Mickie!! Wow that was match was hot, I might have to go rub one off real quick

[Kyle]

Good women's match until she fucked up the stratisfaction.

[Perch1019]

I love this family. If I could ditch my own and get a new one, I would become a McMahon.

[Mooseman]

Casket match up next

[Kyle]

Oh Jesus, this match is going to suck hard

[askewcore]

Oh Jesus, this match is going to suck hard

At least Taker is in it. He's still the man. Mark Henry sucks something hard though.

[Kyle]

There's not even any Daivari in this match...unless he's hiding in the Casket.

At least he could take some big bumps. Taker's been on a role lately, but I don't think he can carry this to being any good.

[Perch1019]

They are going too much into this streak. It would be such a shame for someone like Mark Henry to ruin that.

[Kyle]

Boring

[Kyle]

HAHAHA...Mark Henry's a retard.

[Kyle]

Damn, Undertaker's really trying hard to make this at least decent...the Last Ride, and then that suicide dive...got to give him credit.

Undertaker wins...surprise, surprise.

[Mooseman]

Decent match, no big surprise Undertaker won.

[Kyle]

Only four matches left and one of them's that stupid pillow fight...these main events better be awesome, or this 'Mania will suck.

[askewcore]

I dunno, the MitB and the Foley hardcore match were really good. Everything else has pretty much sucked though.

[Kyle]

I dunno, the MitB and the Foley hardcore match were really good. Everything else has pretty much sucked though.

I think iboth Main Events will end up being good, but at this point, if MITB and the Hardcore match end up being the highlights of the night, it'll be a pretty weak card when all is said and done.

But I definitely have faith in Angle...the guy always brings it.

And the Cena/HHH match should be decent despite the weak build to it.


Anyway, McMahon/HBK street fight up next...over/under on number of run-ins is set at 6.

[Perch1019]

I doubt this will happen but how cool would it if Bret came and helped HBK and then the two hugged in the ring afterwards?

[askewcore]

I doubt this will happen but how cool would it if Bret came and helped HBK and then the two hugged in the ring afterwards?

Would Bret cup HBK's balls too? He might run-in.

There's your first run-in Kyle....spirit squad.

Vince throws a punch like he takes it in the ass.

[Perch1019]

Government Mule line

[Kyle]

Would Bret cup HBK's balls too? He might run-in.

There's your first run-in Kyle....spirit squad.

Vince throws a punch like he takes it in the ass.

Still waiting on Shane...and I think Steve Austin will make the run-in to save Shawn, instead of Hart.

Spirit Squad will be back again, too.

[Perch1019]

I just dont see why Bret would skip being here. He needs that one last ovation from the fans. He deserves it.

[Perch1019]

I fucking love Shane-o-mac. I really mark out big time when he comes around.

EDIT: shane just got his nose burried in his daddys crack. Great line.

[askewcore]

"Shane has got his face buried in his daddy's crack."

And we all have to defend wrestling for not being gay.

edit: JR just said, "McMahon's on queer street...not that theres anything wrong with that." That fat hick is on fire.

[Perch1019]

The McMahons are taking quite a large amount of bumps here. That chair had a nice dent in it and he didnt even block the ladder

[Mooseman]

Thought the hardcore match was earlier tonight. Wow this is great

[Mooseman]

OH MY GODDDD!!!! That ladder is huge!

[Perch1019]

This is going to be so fucking cool

[Perch1019]

Holy Shit~!

[askewcore]

Ho-ly Shitttttt

[Mooseman]

Holy Shit!!!

[askewcore]

That was a sick match

[Perch1019]

My hats off to Vince here. He took quite a fucking beating.

[Kyle]

Awesome. The ladder spot's definitely memorable.

[Nimrod]

Michaels wins

[Perch1019]

Detroit? Yeccccccccch

[WhipperWhip]

Just chiming in...I know it's supposed to get the gay out but the "pillow fight" needs to be brought out back and shot...it should NOT go on after Shawn

[askewcore]

looks like its going on after the SD main event too.

[Kyle]

Damn it...the Triple Threat's going on before the Lingerie Pillow Fight...way to bury Smackdown yet again.

[WhipperWhip]

Way to bury the rest of the fuckin PPV...FUCK THEM BITCHES!

[Perch1019]

This makes me worry that Cena is going to hold on to the strap since the WWE thinks of him as the fan fav and they usually try to end WMs on a happy note.

EDIT: What is this fucking nonsense?

[Kyle]

They may have just cancelled the pillow fight. I wouldn't be surprised.

[WhipperWhip]

This makes me think Rey MAY have a shot

[Kyle]

Rey's getting the live band HHH entrance

[WhipperWhip]

Please don't tease me with the idea that they MAY have canceled the pillow fight...it's too good to be true

[Mooseman]

WTF is Rey wearing?

[Perch1019]

They havent mentioned the pillow fight once. Even on the pre-show.

What is rey wearing?

[Kyle]

The fact that this match isn't going on last is starting to make me think Orton will win.

[Perch1019]

Go Kurt!

[WhipperWhip]

They mentioned it a few times (the pillow fight) up until about after the Foley match so they could let it fade away and not mention it again...but they could still whip that shit out and then I will be forced to beat my womans just to get some relief.

[askewcore]

The fact that this match isn't going on last is starting to make me think Orton will win.


Orton will win. So will HHH, setting up a merger of the brands again.

[WhipperWhip]

Holy Shit!!! Rey Flew!!! Angle Is God!

[Perch1019]

The fact that this match isn't going on last is starting to make me think Orton will win.

The band, the eddie angle and the new hidious look makes me think Rey is comming out on top. He will probably get his ass kicked the entire match and somehow channel eddie and pull it out.
They are also playing up the "champ doesnt need to be pinned" thing too much.

The suplex was awesome! This match is going to rock!

[Mooseman]

Orton will win. So will HHH, setting up a merger of the brands again.
I was thinking the same thing.

[WhipperWhip]

Rey's Spots Are Stealing The Show!

[Mooseman]

Wow this match should have been the last one. They are tearing it up

[WhipperWhip]

Rey could win it...I can see Angle bitching that he made Rey tap.

[WhipperWhip]

Nix that whole he made Rey tap angle I suggested

[askewcore]

So Angle beat them both already....his shot to win is out the window.

[CM Mark]

so far in my predictions I only have gotten one wrong, and that was the Tag Title match. Still waiting on the two title matches here.

[Mooseman]

They need to forget about the pillow fight and just flow right into Cena/HHH. These last two matches have just been amazing.

[Perch1019]

Fuck I lost my remote and I cant rewind any of this! FUCK!

[Perch1019]

Wtf!

[WhipperWhip]

Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[askewcore]

That was a hell of a match. This PPV looks like it might be saved yet.

[Perch1019]

Im in shock. I cant believe that just happened like that.

[WhipperWhip]

I can't believe they gave him the title...I am happy for him.

[Kyle]

Awesome, but how is it over already?

[askewcore]

Awesome, but how is it over already?

They need 20 minutes to bring out Cena and HHH. And the PPV's usually end at like 10 minutes to the hour.

[WhipperWhip]

Angle is taking it back within 2 months...he didn't lose the match!

[Kyle]

They're definitely doing the pillow fight...I can't see them giving Cena/HHH 50 minutes

[CM Mark]

Rey win?

That's the vibe I am getting from these posts

[WhipperWhip]

HHH wins the belt to set up the next PPV, my call.

[Kyle]

They need 20 minutes to bring out Cena and HHH. And the PPV's usually end at like 10 minutes to the hour.

That blows...I'd of loved 10 more minutes of that.

[Mooseman]

Wow that ended really quick. I could have watched them for anohter 10 minutes. Good for Rey, but this means that we will hear more about how he did it for Eddie.

[Fatty_Pneumonia]

rey won?

no hart?

no austin?

[Perch1019]

I feel like such a pussy. Im tearing up here.

[WhipperWhip]

Yeah, Rey pinned Randy to win after knocking Angle out the ring. For those not watching it.

[CM Mark]

Still only one prediction off. bwahahaha! WWE needs to do more suprising things. HHH will win the title. THAT is Money in the Bank.

[Mooseman]

rey won?

no hart?

no austin?
Correct, correct, correct.

It also looks like no lingerie pillow fight

[WhipperWhip]

No Bret... and I'm not holding my breath either for it.

I can't see Austin pop up at this point either, it wouldn't work into the story.

AND THEY DROPPED THE PILLOW FIGHT!!!!! I can sleep happy now.

[askewcore]

I feel like such a pussy. Im tearing up here.

you are. :action-sm

Holy shit, the CENA SUCKS chants have started already.

At least JR admitted that only little kids like Cena.

[Mooseman]

Yuck!!!

[askewcore]

AND THEY DROPPED THE PILLOW FIGHT!!!!! I can sleep happy now.

HAHAHAHAHHAHA.

[WhipperWhip]

Fuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuck

[WhipperWhip]

<----slap his wife in fustration

[askewcore]

This match better not last more then 5 minutes.

[Kyle]

Jesus Christ...this shit gets on and Rey/Orton/Angle only get 9 minutes of action?

Stacy Keibler better show up or I'll be pissed.

[Perch1019]

Jesus Christ...this shit gets on and Rey/Orton/Angle only get 9 minutes of action?

Stacy Keibler better show up or I'll be pissed.

and she better bring a double dong dildo for herself and Torre. Thats the only thing that can save this.

[WhipperWhip]

If this even exceeds 5 minutes, I'm throwing out my Wrestling buddies in protest.

[Mooseman]

What a way to kill the energy of the PPV

[WhipperWhip]

oh wow, a back drop onto a bed...how explosive

[askewcore]

and she better bring a double dong dildo for herself and Torre. Thats the only thing that can save this.

ASS TO ASS!

If this even exceeds 5 minutes, I'm throwing out my Wrestling buddies in protest.

Thats the line of the night.

[WhipperWhip]

Someone start a "We want Kidman" chant...please?

[Mooseman]

Wow those fans are pissed, they better get naked and start fucking or they might all walk out

[Perch1019]

If this even exceeds 5 minutes, I'm throwing out my Wrestling buddies in protest.

:clap: :clap: :clap:
Line of the night. I agree.

Can I have them tho?

[WhipperWhip]

I want Joey to call this match...seriously

[Perch1019]

What does it say about us that we would much rather have two jacked men sweating all over each other insted of two really hot woman undressing each other?

[WhipperWhip]

<----looking for backyard matches on YouTube to kill the time

[askewcore]

What does it say about us that we would much rather have two jacked men sweating all over each other insted of two really hot woman undressing each other?

I was just thinking that. This really is quite the homo thread.

[WhipperWhip]

And that is what is called "bad booking"

[Kyle]

explain to me why a girl who just showed her ass in Playboy would immediately grab the covers to cover up

[askewcore]

explain to me why a girl who just showed her ass in Playboy would immediately grab the covers to cover up

because playboy is art. shes obviously shy.

did you guys know she is on a show on playboy TV called "Totally Busted"? Its like Punk'd but all sex jokes. She showed her browneye and her snatch on it the other day when I was watching it.

Time for the King of Kings BABY! Oh, new Motorhead intro music! AWESOME!

[Perch1019]

I still cant get over that the 3 way was only 10 minutes long. They could have easily made that match 20+ minutes and it would have been an instant classic.

[CM Mark]

Wow those fans are pissed, they better get naked and start fucking or they might all walk out
Not even watching WM, this is the line of the night.

[Kyle]

What's with all this fucking filler...is this really necessary? They had a fucking awesome match going and they cut it short to do two awful Cena/HHH hype pieces and a pillow fight?

I'm legitimately pissed now.

[Perch1019]

New music, new intro. HHH is winning.

[WhipperWhip]

LMFAO!!!!!
Hunter the Barbarian

[askewcore]

What's with all this fucking filler...is this really necessary? They had a fucking awesome match going and they cut it short to do two awful Cena/HHH hype pieces and a pillow fight?

I'm legitimately pissed now.

That really was a travesty.

[Kyle]

New music, and entrance...think HHH is winning?

[Mooseman]

Wtf is up with HHH. Looks like he just off the set of Braveheart

[Kyle]

Are you fucking kidding me...the barbarian getup is awful

[CM Mark]

What does it say about us that we would much rather have two jacked men sweating all over each other insted of two really hot woman undressing each other?
until I read this, the TRUE line of the night

[WhipperWhip]

The Beserker Version 2.0

[askewcore]

New music, and entrance...think HHH is winning?

I dont care if I know he's gonna win. I just want Cena to lose. I dont care if he lost to Steve Urkel.

[Mooseman]

LMFAO!!!!!
Hunter the Barbarian
:clap: :clap: :clap:

[Perch1019]

What the fuck is this? HHH looks like such an ass right now. You fuck the daughter of the owner of the company and this is what you get?
Hunter the Barbarian

[Kyle]

They've all but buried Cena...the announcers...the presentation, the whole build, the fans...unless they pull a turn where Cena makes a deal with the McMahon's to screw HHH and they do a new HHH/McMahon feud, this is all but a foregone conclusion.

[domelogic]

I appreciate the updates you guys are giving those of us that didnt get the ppv. you confused the hell out of me though with the angle/rey/orton match though. who pinned who? you said rey won but how and why in the hell wouldnt they let someone as talented as angle keep the damn belt now if cena keeps the belt i will have two champs i cant stand

[askewcore]

eww a new cena entrance too.

[Perch1019]

Is Al Capone wrestling?

[Kyle]

You know what...I never thought I'd say this...I want Cena to win.

[Mooseman]

This is just too weird

[askewcore]

I appreciate the updates you guys are giving those of us that didnt get the ppv. you confused the hell out of me though with the angle/rey/orton match though. who pinned who? you said rey won but how and why in the hell wouldnt they let someone as talented as angle keep the damn belt now if cena keeps the belt i will have two champs i cant stand

rey hit orton with the 619 and the hurricanrana and pinned him.

[WhipperWhip]

Oh god...this build up for Cena is demeaning...I don;t like where it's headed

[Perch1019]

I appreciate the updates you guys are giving those of us that didnt get the ppv. you confused the hell out of me though with the angle/rey/orton match though. who pinned who? you said rey won but how and why in the hell wouldnt they let someone as talented as angle keep the damn belt now if cena keeps the belt i will have two champs i cant stand

Next time buy the PPV you cheep fuck. :action-sm

[Mooseman]

So now he's a gangster instead of a wigger??

[Kyle]

Jesus fucking Christ...is this Vaudeville now?

[Perch1019]

You know what...I never thought I'd say this...I want Cena to win.

You dont mean that.
Especially after this intro.

Listen to the boos! This is awesome!

[WhipperWhip]

"Hey Barbarian...we're gonna put the screws to ya"

[CM Mark]

You know what...I never thought I'd say this...I want Cena to win.
-kick to the nuts-

Come to your senses man!

[askewcore]

Listen to the boos! This is awesome!

Like a sweet symphony.

As lame as HHH's Conan entrance was. This is 1000 times gayer.

[Kyle]

Wow I thought they buried Cena before...look at this faggy entrance

[WhipperWhip]

He's muggin for heat...better than a cheap pop!

[WhipperWhip]

I can hear Dusty turning in his grave...and he ain't dead yet

[Kyle]

I feel bad for the guy...he's not good but he's not terrible, he's just been booked horribly. And instead of ending this a long time ago, they're pushing this to the point where they might ruin his career.

It's really not his fault...he's just been set up as a patsy to feed HHH

[Perch1019]

How fucking awesome would it be if Cena wins and RVD comes out and cashs in his Money in the Bank? That would make this the best PPV ever.

[Fatty_Pneumonia]

i hope cena gets destroyed.

[Kyle]

I can hear Dusty turning in his grave...and he ain't dead yet

Somebody didn't see the Hall of Fame ceremony last night...Dusty looks like he's all but dead.

[WhipperWhip]

Wow, the crowd has turned...Cena needs to pull the trigger and turn during this match

[askewcore]

"A unique ovation..."

Call it what it is Jim, "Everyone here with hair on their balls hates Cena."

[Fatty_Pneumonia]

How fucking awesome would it be if Cena wins and RVD comes out and cashs in his Money in the Bank? That would make this the best PPV ever.


a compelling angle.....

the bookers would never go for it.

[WhipperWhip]

How fucking awesome would it be if Cena wins and RVD comes out and cashs in his Money in the Bank? That would make this the best PPV ever.

I would pop so loud niggas in New orleans would be like WTF!?!?

[Perch1019]

a compelling angle.....

the bookers would never go for it.

What you mean is Mrs HHH would never allow such a thing.

[WhipperWhip]

WOW, the crowd is applauding Hunter for chain wrestling

[Perch1019]

I would pop so loud niggas in New orleans would be like WTF!?!?

:clap: :clap: :clap:

[askewcore]

Anyone notice the "ITS STILL REAL TO ME DAMMIT" sign?

HAHAHA. Fuck you Cena chants!

[WhipperWhip]

The crowd is applauding for Hunter doing basic moves on Cena...not good for the champ

[Kyle]

Cena's winning...his career as far as fan reaction is over if they don't turn him heel and have him win right here.

[WhipperWhip]

"Fuck You Cena" chant!!!!

[WhipperWhip]

He needs to do a "Rock" and turn heel at the end of this...it can only help him

[Kyle]

The is almost as surreal as Lesnar/Goldberg as far as fan reaction goes.

[WhipperWhip]

Ross is trying REAL hard to put Cena over

[askewcore]

Ross is trying REAL hard to put Cena over

He sure is.

"He's not a bad wrestler! He's just unorthodox."

[askewcore]

is that a "Cena Blows" chant I heard?

[Kyle]

"let's go cena" "fuck you Cena" dueling chants

[Fatty_Pneumonia]

fuck you cena!!!!!!!!!!

[Kyle]

they just popped for a sleeper...this crowd has lost their mind.

[WhipperWhip]

the "Boo" and "Yay" chants for Hunter and Cena trading blows was killing me! Cena is getting shitted on!

[CM Mark]

they just popped for a sleeper...this crowd has lost their mind.
As my friend Tony said, They're probably jealous of the guy going unconcious

[WhipperWhip]

Oh Please Not By Submission!

[WhipperWhip]

Hunter Fuckin Tapped!

[askewcore]

they just ruined this show

WORST MAIN EVENT EVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVER

[WhipperWhip]

They better pull the trigger on a heel turn damn it!

[Kyle]

Cena wins!

[Kyle]

Good...I'm glad Cena won...I wasn't ready for Hunter the Barbarian.

[askewcore]

I'm officially not watching Raw until Cena loses.

[CM Mark]

HHH tapped?



STUPID STUPID STUPID MOTHER FUCKERS!!!

[Jimmy's Dignity]

"let's go cena" "fuck you Cena" dueling chantsthe "Boo" and "Yay" chants for Hunter and Cena trading blows was killing me! Cena is getting shitted on!:haha7: :haha7: :haha7: :haha7: :haha7: :haha7: :haha7: :haha7: :haha7: :haha7: :haha7: :haha7: :haha7:

[Perch1019]

That was such an awful ending

[WhipperWhip]

Verne is cursing up a storm backstage at this finish

[Kyle]

I liked it, if Cena loses, it's WWE admitting the guy's a fucking hack, and it would damage him pretty bad as far as his future.

Good event all the way through...I've got to re-watch that Triple Threat before I go to sleep tonight...it was fucking awesome.

[askewcore]

I'm gonna go take this anger out on my girlfriend's box.

[Fatty_Pneumonia]

they have effectively ruined wrestlemania.

[askewcore]

they have effectively ruined wrestlemania.

thank god Yankees opening day is tomorrow night so I dont have to bother with Raw

[CM Mark]

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Oh wait, why Do I care? I don't watch this crap any more

[domelogic]

what was the crowd like when he won and yes perch i am a cheap ass

[askewcore]

what was the crowd like when he won and yes perch i am a cheap ass

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!