England: A Criminal's Paradise

[Multiple Miggs]

And if this isn't worse enough, in England if a burglar does break into your home and you use force to defend your family, there's a very good chance you will be sent to prison for assault or murder (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/720426.stm).

But don't forget, we're just stupid 'cowboy' Americans with our barbaric gun and self defense laws. :icon_roll

'Let burglars off with caution', police told

Burglars will be allowed to escape without punishment under new instructions sent to all police forces. Police have been told they can let them off the threat of a court appearance and instead allow them to go with a caution.

The same leniency will be shown to criminals responsible for more than 60 other different offences, ranging from arson through vandalism to sex with underage girls.

New rules sent to police chiefs by the Home Office set out how seriously various crimes should be regarded, and when offenders who admit to them should be sent home with a caution.

A caution counts as a criminal record but means the offender does not face a court appearance which would be likely to end in a fine, a community punishment or jail.

Some serious offences - including burglary of a shop or office, threatening to kill, actual bodily harm, and possession of Class A drugs such as heroin or cocaine - may now be dealt with by caution if police decide that would be the best approach.

And a string of crimes including common assault, threatening behaviour, sex with an underage girl or boy, and taking a car without its owner's consent, should normally be dealt with by a caution, the circular said.

Link (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=381799&in_page_id=1770)

[abudabit]

I seriously thought you were posting some BS story till I saw all the brits commenting on it. Holy shit there is no way the british public will allow that to continue.

[d0uche_n0zzle]

No wonder why the sun has set on the once great British Empire.

They are complete and total dumb arse's.

[TrybalRage]

Yes they will, just like they have allowed the gov to strip them of all defense rights, and just like they are working towards knives without points because they "serve no lawful purpose".

Fucking idiots.

Europe is so far left its frightening.

[droopygirl106]

And if this isn't worse enough, in England if a burglar does break into your home and you use force to defend your family, there's a very good chance you will be sent to prison for assault or murder.

it's been like that in the netherlands for years..

[FreeTheCricket]

Radical liberalism at it's finest. All you idiots in this country who think the Democrats are the "enlightened" ones take note. This is what America will become if they have their way.

[Multiple Miggs]

it's been like that in the netherlands for years..
At least the Netherlands doesn't have stupid drug laws that allow the cops to "burglarize" your home with a SWAT team in the middle of the night.

[mascan42]

The same leniency will be shown to criminals responsible for more than 60 other different offences, ranging from arson through vandalism to sex with underage girls.

Now there's a law I can get behind.

[MrBogey]

Look on the bright side. This will reduce their prison population.

Lower prison population= a better world.

/takes a sip.

[YourAmishDaddy]

Radical liberalism at it's finest. All you idiots in this country who think the Democrats are the "enlightened" ones take note. This is what America will become if they have their way.

I'll have you know Bush supported the Assault Weapons Ban.. You can't slide out of it this quick, my friend. It's both parties. :icon_wink

[ScarAss]

Who is to stop you from killing an intruder? I'm sure you can buy guns illegally in England as easily as in the United States. If I may face criminal charges for killing someone who could have killed me and my family, then I guess I'll go to prison and tie a noose out of the bed sheets. Of course, I don't have to worry about this. I live in South Carolina, away from the communists in democrat's clothing. What I'm saying is, if your family is more important to you than your own life, then buying yourself a gun illegally to protect your family is an honorable act whether or not it is against the law. Who cares about law, when it comes down to You VS Someone doing harm to you.

[The Lurker]

I'll have you know Bush supported the Assault Weapons Ban.. You can't slide out of it this quick, my friend. It's both parties. :icon_wink

Ahh... but look what has happened since Bush took office. The stupid "Assault" weapons ban has been lifted, concealed carry is being enacted in more and more states, and laws are now being passed that say you are within your legal right to stand up to an attacker with deadly force. All of this is going on with anti-gun groups screaming about how the violence will soar, yet violent crime rates are approaching all-time lows.

I know you like to blur the party lines, and for the most part, they are blurred, but this is one issue that really has a dividing line.

The Democrats really, REALLY hate guns, while the Republicans are basically indifferent about the whole thing, which is why the rolled over for the Clinton ban and why they are letting all the stuff happen now.

[TrybalRage]

I know you like to blur the party lines, and for the most part, they are blurred, but this is one issue that really has a dividing line.

The Democrats really, REALLY hate guns, while the Republicans are basically indifferent about the whole thing, which is why the rolled over for the Clinton ban and why they are letting all the stuff happen now.


Now if we could just get some other things reversed...

'86 Machine gun ban
'68 GCA
'34 NFA

[YourAmishDaddy]

Ahh... but look what has happened since Bush took office. The stupid "Assault" weapons ban has been lifted, concealed carry is being enacted in more and more states, and laws are now being passed that say you are within your legal right to stand up to an attacker with deadly force. All of this is going on with anti-gun groups screaming about how the violence will soar, yet violent crime rates are approaching all-time lows.

I know you like to blur the party lines, and for the most part, they are blurred, but this is one issue that really has a dividing line.

The Democrats really, REALLY hate guns, while the Republicans are basically indifferent about the whole thing, which is why the rolled over for the Clinton ban and why they are letting all the stuff happen now.

Theres never been a period of time in the history of this nation, even WW2, where the second amendment applied less than now. Remember everyone wanted the Patriot Act? If there's an "incident" like 9-11 or a national emergency or disaster that 2nd amendment goes poof.. There are directives that basically nullifies the Bill of Rights... This goes beyond simple martial law.

Now no one has to believe it, and I'll not post the entire thing because it's nothing but legalese, but it's there. As a matter of fact, it happened after Katrina where people not even involved in crimes, at home, in dry more affluent areas faced gun confiscations.

And the partisan thing doesn't work. Bush supported the Assault Weapons Ban, and other nonsense. Clinton supported it.. where's the difference.

I judge a person on their merits, not their "intentions" If he did not believe in such trash, don't say you do. I refuse to play the "well he's just saying that but he really means this" game.

[ScarAss]

Now if we could just get some other things reversed...

'86 Machine gun ban
'68 GCA
'34 NFA


The problem is, even if it were legal to buy machine guns, they'd still be cheaper and easier to get illegally.

[MrBogey]

The problem is, even if it were legal to buy machine guns, they'd still be cheaper and easier to get illegally.

Only the foreign manufactured stuff. The prices domestically would plummet. It only costs a few hundred for a ground up custom mill job. For an AK made in the US you're looking at 400$ or so.

[CM Mark]

Now if we could just get some other things reversed...

'86 Machine gun ban
'68 GCA
'34 NFA
Correct me if I am Wrong, but weren't Republicans in office when all of these were passed?

[Coffee Diva]

Correct me if I am Wrong, but weren't Republicans in office when all of these were passed?

You're very wrong. '34 = Roosevelt (D) and a Democrat-controlled Congress. '68 = Johnson (D) and a Democrat-controlled Congress. '86 = Reagan (R) and a split Congress: House D and Senate R. (And the AWB arguably helped cause the GOP to lose the Senate to the Dems in the '86 elections.)

[abudabit]

I don't really like the idea of machine guns all over the place. When someone snaps you don't want them to have the ability to take out 50 people in a plaza.

Plus if you had to defend your home from a golfer, would you want a hand gun or a fully automatic? I think considering it's your home you just sneak up on him and snipe him with a hand gun.

How do you like this golf club, fucker?!?!

[mascan42]

I don't really like the idea of machine guns all over the place. When someone snaps you don't want them to have the ability to take out 50 people in a plaza.

Agreed. If Harris and Kliebold didn't have guns, they'd still be fucking lunatics, but they wouldn't be killers.

[FANDICK]

Dumb ass, Limeys.

[BIV]

Agreed. If Harris and Kliebold didn't have guns, they'd still be fucking lunatics, but they wouldn't be killers.
Wrong, they would have used pipe bombs, or moltovs, or knives, or hunting rifles or fucking spears. The guns didn't make them killers. They were going to kill, the guns are just what they used.

[TrybalRage]

I don't really like the idea of machine guns all over the place. When someone snaps you don't want them to have the ability to take out 50 people in a plaza.

Plus if you had to defend your home from a golfer, would you want a hand gun or a fully automatic? I think considering it's your home you just sneak up on him and snipe him with a hand gun.

How do you like this golf club, fucker?!?!

Machine guns are legal, just not ones manufactured after 1986.

And I refer you to the North Hollywood shootout, with fully automatic weapons used by the bad guys - they lost.

And I would prefer 12ga 00 Buck.

[Ego]

AK-47 = best.