Best Wrestling Stable

[Kyle]

Obviously, there's been different members at different times in these stables, but overall, which is the best?

And yes, I can't get enough of these stupid wrestling questions, that's why I post them so much.

You can vote for multiple choices in this one, since there's so many, so basically just pick the ones you like...

And I'll add another facet to the question...which if any would you like to see come back...and in what form? (be it past wrestlers, or a mix of past and current wrestlers)

[commish13]

You should come join IGN's Wrestling General Board. It's gonna cost you 25 bucks a year (but if you like video games, it's pretty worth it, even though I don't), but the wrestling talk is second to none there.

In any event, as far as stables that I actually watched as they happened, the obvious are DX and the Nation, and the nWo in its early stages before it got out of hand. But really, the Nation was only any good because of the huge contrast between Rocky and Faarooq, even though the feud that eventually came of it wasn't really any good.

[Kyle]

To refresh people's memories, here's some of the lists of members from these groups over the years (off of obsessedwithwrestling.com)

bWo: Big Stevie Cool, The Blue Guy, Hollywood Nova, "Intern" Thomas Rodman, Chastity.

Corporation: Vince McMahon, Shane McMahon, The Rock, Test, Ken Shamrock, Big Bossman, Kane, Hunter Helmsley, Chyna, Shawn Michaels.

Corporate Ministry: Vince McMahon, Undertaker, Farooq, Bradshaw, Big Bossman, Chyna, Viscera, Mideon, Gangrel, Edge, Christain.

Degeneration-X: Shawn Michaels, Triple H, Chyna, Rick Rude, XPac, Roaddog, Billy Gunn, Tori.

Dungeon of Doom: Kevin Sullivan, The Zodiac, The Shark, Kamala, Vader, Meng, Barbarian, Lex Luger, The Giant, Hugh Morrus, The Yeti, Konnan. Maxx.

Evolution: Triple H, Ric Flair, Randy Orton, Batista..

Four Horsemen: Ric Flair, Arn Anderon, Ole Anderson, Tully Blanchard, JJ Dillon, Barry Windham, Sid Vicious, Lex Luger, Sting, Paul Roma, Brian Pillman, Chris Benoit, Woman, Elizabeth, Curt Hennig, Jeff Jarrett, Mongo McMichael, Debra McMichael, Dean Malenko.

Hart Foundation: Bret Hart, Jim Neidhart, Owen Hart, British Bulldog, Brian Pillman.

Heenan Family: Bobby Heenan, Dick Beyer, Dick Warren, Nick Bockwinkle, Ernie Ladd, Big John Studd, King Kong Bundy, Ken Patera, Haku, Andre The Giant, Harly Race, Hercules, Mr Perfect, Paul Orndorff, Rick Rude.

Million Dollar Corporation: Ted DiBiase, Nickolai Volkoff, Irwin R. Shiester, Bam Bam Bigelow, Tatanka, King Kong Bundy, Supreme Fighting Machine, 1-2-3 Kid, Sycho Sid, Steve Austin..

Ministry: Undertaker, Farooq, Bradshaw, Viscera, Mideon.

nWo:
(Original) Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, Hollywood Hogan, Ted DiBiase, The Giant, Eric Bischoff, Macho Man, Syxx, Konnan, nWo Sting, Michael Wallstreet, Bubba Rogers, Scott Norton, Buff Bagwell, Scott Steiner, Brian Adams, Curt Hennig, The Disciple, Dusty Rhodes, Nick Patrick, Elizabeth.

(Hollywood) Hollywood Hogan, Scott Hall, Curt Hennig, Buff Bagwell, Scott Steiner, The Disciple.

(Wolfpac) Kevin Nash, Macho Man, Konnan, Lex Luger, Sting.

(Reunion) Hollywood Hogan, Kevin Nash, Scott Steiner, Buff Bagwell, Lex Luger, Konnan, Disco Inferno.

(B&W) Horace Hogan, Stevie Ray, Vincient, Brian Adams, Scott Norton.

(2000) Bret Hart, Kevin Nash, Jeff Jarrett, Scott Steiner, Harris Twins.

(WWF) Vince McMahon, Hulk Hogan, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, XPac. Big Show. Booker T. Shawn Michaels.

Raven's Flock: Raven, Saturn, Van Hammer, Kidman, Riggs, Lodi, Sickboy, Reese.

[Evilpete]

what, no love to the Triple Threat on ECW(Douglas, Candito and Taz)?

[Big Dick Mcgee]

I loved the Horsemen but it could never be done right again. DX is a good choice because Shawn and HHH still have a few good years left and the two of them together worked great.

[Kyle]

As far as I go, The Horsemen I think are far and away the best of them all. The original version is great, but the re-birth with Flair, Arn, Benoit, and Malenko was also pretty good. I'd like to see them take one more shot while Flair can still go. They've got Flair and Benoit as active wrestlers, and Arn works for the WWE so he could play the J.J. Dillon role...it'd also be a good chance to give a couple young guys a nice rub.

I also think Raven's Flock was way underrated...and for that matter, I think Raven was way underrated in WCW. I'm still angry from when he was U.S. champion, and had an awesome push going, as well as being pretty over, and they jobbed him to Goldberg in like 2 minutes on an episode of Nitro.

And the bWo just for comedy.

[Kyle]

what, no love to the Triple Threat on ECW(Douglas, Candito and Taz)?

Good call...that's why I put the Other choice in the poll, I knew I'd miss a big one.

Wasn't the original Triple Threat Douglas, Candido, and Bigelow?

I loved the Horsemen but it could never be done right again. DX is a good choice because Shawn and HHH still have a few good years left and the two of them together worked great.

I loved the original DX with Shawn, Hunter, and Chyna. The re-birth with X-Pac and The Outlaws sucked hard.

[prozac]

The original four horsemen...for those older fans who remember them, well I have to say that nothing could live up to that stable of wrestlers being lead by James J. Dillion.

[sknight]

Loved the APA.

You guys reminded me about Buff Bagwell. Wonder what he's doing now, since Vinny Mac threw him out on his ass the moment he was done with his match.

[Big Dick Mcgee]

Probably still making low budget porn. No talent shit head.

[Kyle]

Loved the APA.

You guys reminded me about Buff Bagwell. Wonder what he's doing now, since Vinny Mac threw him out on his ass the moment he was done with his match.

There's only three guys I flat out hate in wrestling...Buff was one, Lex Luger is another, and Scott "King of Roids" Steiner is the third.

By the way, Scott Steiner is a mess these days...I was watching the Impact! replay this week and what the fuck is up with the guy's chest...he has these huge fucking arms, huge fucking pecks, huge abs, and then the chest definition of a 10 year-old boy...it's almost sick to look at.

[CM Mark]

My vote goes with The Flock. The Flock kicked Major ass. Of course, I love anything Raven does.

[Sack of Chisels]

DX was the greatest, followed by the Horsemen.

Also when are they going to do a horsemen reunion already? Flair, Anderson, Benoit, and Malenko are all with wwe.

[Kyle]

Looking over a lot of this has really made me realize how much I miss WCW. As annoying as the whole Hogan and Nash dominanting the title scene was, and how bad the Russo years were, there were a ton of great things about it that WWE just doesn't do, or doesn't do very well today.

And Vince has just buried any memory of it (not that I expected anything more)...I don't think they've released a single WCW DVD in over five years since buying the company.

[Schnit Dick]

It was for a while all about DX and Nation of Domination...i miss those type of factions, they need to bring them back

[sknight]

There's only three guys I flat out hate in wrestling...Buff was one, Lex Luger is another, and Scott "King of Roids" Steiner is the third.

By the way, Scott Steiner is a mess these days...I was watching the Impact! replay this week and what the fuck is up with the guy's chest...he has these huge fucking arms, huge fucking pecks, huge abs, and then the chest definition of a 10 year-old boy...it's almost sick to look at.
Everyone knows Steiner is juicing it. Remember him when he used to come out with Rick and he was a muscular high-flier? Wtf happened there? His character sucks balls. Nothing new in how long and he's got nothing upstairs. Sting is all washed up, too. I loved how he left wrestling because he became a Christian and Vampiro was devlish and Sting's own facepaint was demonic as well, but now he's back with that same paint. Slow as hell, looking like an old man, and being the most feared wrestler again. He sucks. Must need money. Kevin Sullivan truly scares me. Not a fucking goodie goodie christian that does Pat Robertson's station all the time.

Oh yeah, loved The Brood.

It's all in the past now, but I would love to see Scott Hall one last time.

[Ping]

You just can't top the Four Horsemen.. the whole idea of who they were and what they stood for made for such a great gimmick. And, honestly, Evolution is an example of how the four man "Horseman style" stable can still work. I'd kill for Flair to gather together four young guys and reform some sort of New Horsemen with Ric taking the J.J. Dillion role.

[BeltOfScotch]

DX was the greatest, followed by the Horsemen.

Also when are they going to do a horsemen reunion already? Flair, Anderson, Benoit, and Malenko are all with wwe.

Arn can't wrestle anymore, Malenko is retired from regular competition, and Benoit and Flair are on separate shows. Can't do it as a regular thing, but maybe if Flair and Benoit got back on the same show a one night deal in Greensboro or something with a Benoit/Flair tag team with Arn and Malenko in their corner would be pretty cool.

Why isn't The Union on this list?

[Evilpete]

Good call...that's why I put the Other choice in the poll, I knew I'd miss a big one.

Wasn't the original Triple Threat Douglas, Candido, and Bigelow?


I think you're right, I think Taz was a part of it after Bam Bam

also trying to remember if the "Dr. of Style" Slick (another GREAT old-school manager) had a stable or was he just a manager of a bunch of guys

[MinusBlindfold]

I think you're right, I think Taz was a part of it after Bam Bam

also trying to remember if the "Dr. of Style" Slick (another GREAT old-school manager) had a stable or was he just a manager of a bunch of guys

I believe Slick was just a manager of several guys, such as the One Man Gang and "The Natural" Butch Reed..

I chose the bWo because the boriquas were overlooked somehow...

[atxklown]

What about Latino World Order?
or Filthy Animals with the maskless Rey Mysterio Jr?
or Misfits In Action with the 5-time Champ Booker T?

[Kyle]

or Misfits In Action with the 5-time Champ Booker T?

You mean G.I. Bro?

[Stormrider666]

My vote would go for the Four Horseman. Loved the 3rd version with Flair, Windham, Blanchard, and Anderson. Which I believe was the best and last great one. DX would be a close second. And with all this talk of a possible reunion, would love to see it happen. A couple of stables that have been forgetton:
The Varsity Club: Kevin Sullivan, Mike Rotunda, Dr. Death Steve Williams, and Rick Steiner
The Dangerous Alliance: Paul E. Dangerously, Rick Rude, Steve Austin, Arn Anderson, and I believe Tully Blacnhard as well.

[Kyle]

My vote would go for the Four Horseman. Loved the 3rd version with Flair, Windham, Blanchard, and Anderson. Which I believe was the best and last great one. DX would be a close second. And with all this talk of a possible reunion, would love to see it happen. A couple of stables that have been forgetton:
The Varsity Club: Kevin Sullivan, Mike Rotunda, Dr. Death Steve Williams, and Rick Steiner
The Dangerous Alliance: Paul E. Dangerously, Rick Rude, Steve Austin, Arn Anderson, and I believe Tully Blacnhard as well.

I would like to see it happen, but I really don't see the DX reunion coming about. Shawn can't even bring himself to actually say the words "suck it" with his new religious beliefs, and I could never see Triple H going back to playing second fiddle to HBK, which is the only way it'd work (at least as far as I'm concerned).

[LastDeadMouse]

What about The Full Blooded Italians?

[Moneysnatch25]

The Dangerous Alliance: Paul E. Dangerously, Rick Rude, Steve Austin, Arn Anderson, and I believe Tully Blacnhard as well.

The Dangerous Alliance kicked ass!!! but the group was:
Paul E. Dangerously, Madusa, Arn Anderson, Rick Rude, Bobby Eaton, Steve Austin and Larry Zbyzsko

[badcellphoneguy]

What about the job squad?

[TheKris]

No Kaientai? I guess the qualifications to make this poll is that you have to actually win a match.

[Beer Gut]

gotta go with the Horsemen. I hated Tully Blanchard so much as a kid...

[Kyle]

No Kaientai? I guess the qualifications to make this poll is that you have to actually win a match.

They did almost chop off Val Venis's dick...until Val's "good friend" John Wayne Bobbit made the save.

Still not sure whether that was the best or worst RAW ever. It really could go either way.

[Hollywood Nova]

Lemme get some things straightened out in here....

I belive.....the original Triple Threat was :
Douglas, Benoit, Malenko
but it lasted for a very short time (Douglas to WWF, Benoit & Malenko to WCW), so they didn't have as big of an impact in ECW as when Douglas returned.

And IMHO, I think people find it convenient to say The ORIGINAL 4 Horseman was the best, when in all accounts, the 2nd incarnation (Barry Windham in, Ole out) was better.

A Windham in his early prime is way better than a Ole A on his last leg. Flair was Flair, champ as always. Arn and Tully were a GREAT team with GREAT chemistry. They gelled very quickly after Tully lost his TV Title and Ole Retired. And Windham had achevied the US title during his Horseman tenure. THEY're the ones that you had to go through for a Major title. And JJ Dillion completed the group and made them that more dangerous as the brians of the op.

[Stormrider666]

Lemme get some things straightened out in here....

I belive.....the original Triple Threat was :
Douglas, Benoit, Malenko
but it lasted for a very short time (Douglas to WWF, Benoit & Malenko to WCW), so they didn't have as big of an impact in ECW as when Douglas returned.

And IMHO, I think people find it convenient to say The ORIGINAL 4 Horseman was the best, when in all accounts, the 2nd incarnation (Barry Windham in, Ole out) was better.

A Windham in his early prime is way better than a Ole A on his last leg. Flair was Flair, champ as always. Arn and Tully were a GREAT team with GREAT chemistry. They gelled very quickly after Tully lost his TV Title and Ole Retired. And Windham had achevied the US title during his Horseman tenure. THEY're the ones that you had to go through for a Major title. And JJ Dillion completed the group and made them that more dangerous as the brians of the op.
Totally agree with everything you're saying. But the Windham version of the Horseman, was actually the third. The second one was when Lex Luger replaced Ole.

[Hollywood Nova]

Thought I changed it earlier. As soon as I posted I realized my mistake. Ohh well

[sknight]

So is DX back, or what?

Anyone see the "Suck it" gestures done by both HHH and HBK?

edit: I checked around on those awful popup infested wrestling news sites and they would have a link to click on with DX news and then it would route you to yet another popup infested site. Despite this, the sites are easier to navigate through than foundry music.

In any event, i kept coming up with dead ends.

[tysonpunchinguterus]

I voted for DX, since I got back into wrestling right around the time that they were huge. I couldn't vote for the Horsemen for the simple fact that no group that once proudly boasted Paul Roma as a member can ever be the best anything. Yeah, DX had Billy Gunn, but at least he was allowed to say "Suck it," and that's sadly more entertaining than anything Paul Roma ever did (unless he killed himself and nobody told me).

Besides, HBK and HHH together is just an all-time classic combination. The next Raw PPV is supposed to have those two in a DX "reunion," but I haven't heard if that's a one-night only thing as a tag team or if it's going to be the start of DX as a group again.

[boozer03]

As much as I wanted to vote for DX...I had to vote for The Heenan Family.
Bobby was one of the best managers..smart..witty and just one funny SOB.
He had some of the best wrestlers under his belt and basicly ran the wwf back in the day...trying to do whatever he could to destory Hogan.

[TheKris]

I really miss when a manager would have a whole stable of wrestlers like Heenan, Jimmy Hart, Slick, and Ted Dibiase when he had the corporation. Plus they had excellent mic skills (especially Heenan). Scott D'Amore is awful and not even close to making me interested in Team Canada

[Awesome Man]

It was so awesome when the Corporation and the Ministry formed. i'll never forget that first night they all lined up on the stage and basically went across the length of the tron stage....i miss the Corporate Ministry

[Aizazzle]

How can you not go with the NwO (The Orignal) they singlehandedly changed wrestling . Without them we might not have gotten Stone Cold Steve Austin vs Vince McMahon

[Mick32]

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The sign on the wrestling says marquee, my friends.

[Steam]

My vote would go for the Four Horseman. Loved the 3rd version with Flair, Windham, Blanchard, and Anderson. Which I believe was the best and last great one. DX would be a close second. And with all this talk of a possible reunion, would love to see it happen. A couple of stables that have been forgetton:
The Varsity Club: Kevin Sullivan, Mike Rotunda, Dr. Death Steve Williams, and Rick Steiner
The Dangerous Alliance: Paul E. Dangerously, Rick Rude, Steve Austin, Arn Anderson, and I believe Tully Blacnhard as well.

I remember I was at my cousin's wedding reception and I was watching Saturday Night on TBS when Windham turned on Luger. That was great. I like that tandem of the Horseman better than the second which I like better than the first. To me, by the time I got into it Ole was useless. Arn was much better off with Tully and getting someone else to be their secondary singles wrestler. Luger wasn't a great worker but he was a believable strong guy. Windham could actually wrestle and had credibility. The problem with that formation was that I don't think it lasted too long. My mental timeline could be fucked though. Even with all the roster shuffling it is impossible to come up with a better stable than the Horsemen. It will never be done.

The Varsity Club (not the awful 2000 recreation) was pretty badass too, and that is even with one of my least entertaining wrestlers in Kevin Sullivan. Rotunda made that whole thing go.

And for the record, I think you are mistaking Tully Blanchard for Larry Zybsko (I know, I fucked up the spelling, fuck him). Tully was pretty much gone at this point thanks to drugs.

[Steam]

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/c/c6/170px-4_Horsemen_1985.jpg
The sign on the wrestling says marquee, my friends.

Does it?

Or is there some joke I'm missing here.

[Flea_Man]

We Are The Nation.......... Of Domination.

[Flea_Man]

I changed my mind:

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[Calbucfan1]

Back when The Horsemen were going against guys like Dusty,Koloff and the Road Warriors they were the shit. Arn and Tully are still one of my favorite tag teams of all time in NWA and then when they went to WWF in 1989. I still love the match at Summerslam 89 with the Hart Foundation vs The Brain Busters(Arn and Tully). The Horsemen were the perfect stable for that time and the stuff they did back then still holds up when I watch it on old tapes. Tully Blanchard vs Magnum TA in a cage is still one of my favorite matches of all time.

[shwugie]

DX vs NWO at this year's survivor series. WTF?

[Flea_Man]

DX vs NWO at this year's survivor series. WTF?

That rumor was busted. The poster is fake.

[Kyle]

I belive.....the original Triple Threat was :
Douglas, Benoit, Malenko
but it lasted for a very short time (Douglas to WWF, Benoit & Malenko to WCW), so they didn't have as big of an impact in ECW as when Douglas returned.

Yeah, Russo tried to make a copy of the Triple Threat near the end of WCW with "Revolution"

That was Shane Douglas, Dean Malenko, Perry Saturn, and that tranny Asya (aka WCW's Chyna rip-off).

Russo was a big stable guy, it's just none of them worked out:
-New Blood
-Millionaire's Club
-Filthy Animals
-Misfits In Action
-his version of the nWo
-Revolution


Anyway, stables need to make a comeback.

[Tinkledrinker13]

Yeah, Russo tried to make a copy of the Triple Threat near the end of WCW with "Revolution"

That was Shane Douglas, Dean Malenko, Perry Saturn, and that tranny Asya (aka WCW's Chyna rip-off).

Russo was a big stable guy, it's just none of them worked out:
-New Blood
-Millionaire's Club
-Filthy Animals
-Misfits In Action
-his version of the nWo
-Revolution


Anyway, stables need to make a comeback.


You forgot the greatest Russo stables

3count and The Natural Born Thrillers

[Flea_Man]

Natural Born Thrillers rule.

[Tinkledrinker13]

Natural Born Thrillers rule.

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[ratedRsuperstar]

the oddities! oh i think i should be on the "worst" thread.
the only members i remember are luna, golga and (eycuk) ICP

[Flea_Man]

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Legendary

[TheKris]

I thought the Natural Born Thrillers were great. I can't believe that Mike Sanders couldn't at least find a managing job somewhere. Does he still wrestle or do anything in wrestling somewhere?

[Mick32]

Does it?

Or is there some joke I'm missing here.
It's a semi-famous Arn Anderson promo fuck up. One of the Horsemen would always work in "The sign on the marquee says wrestling" when putting down one of their babyface opponents. Arn got all tongue-tied and flipped the words.

[25133WhooOoAH]

what no Nation of Domination?

Anyone remember the most forgetable STable "The Union" i think big show ran it.........

And wasn't there a Stable with Hardcore Holly, Crash, Al snow and Mankind?

[boardsofcanada]

Even though i wasn't a big fan of wcw, you gotta go with nWo because they brought so much to the table for wrestling and of course inspired DX.

[Kyle]

what no Nation of Domination?


I honestly wasn't a big NOD fan. When Faarooq was the head in the beginning, they didn't go as far as they should have with the angry, militant black group gimmick.

And honestly, guys like Rock, D-Lo, and Godfather (and now, I guess you could say Mark Henry, as well) did their best work outside of the group.

Rock was at the best in his career as McMahon's hand picked corporate champion.

Anyone remember the most forgetable STable "The Union" i think big show ran it.........

It was Mankind, Big Show, Ken Shamrock, and Test. It wasn't really around long enough, either. It could have been a great stable but they fucked up the whole Corporate Ministry angle by revealing Vince as "The Higher Power" after he was their main enemy.


And wasn't there a Stable with Hardcore Holly, Crash, Al snow and Mankind?

You're probably thinking of the JOB Squad, but Mankind wasn't in it. Or Crash Holly.

I think it was Al Snow, Hardcore Holly, 2 Cold Scorpio, and the Blue Meanie.

[Madness]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/MadDog1981/06.jpg

Don't be fooled by the shitty WCW recreation from the late 80s and early 90s. The Freebirds ruled Mid-South and WCCW for years.

[TheKris]

Actually I was a huge Freebirds mark even during the shitty recreation. Hell, I even got excited when BadStreet and Big Daddy Dink joined in.

[VersionX]

nWo was too revolutionary for wrestling for me to vote for anything else. The way they single-handedly made WCW more popular than WWE which had NEVER happened before is enough to garner my vote.

DX and 4 Horsemen are close seconds.