Tna

[Kyle]

I guess the question is, are people watching?

The just made their big Thursday Night debut, and I thought it was a pretty good show. Joe/Daniels was a fun match, I'm glad they've brought in Spike Dudley, and Sting looked like he can still go.

And does anyone know when Raven's suppose to come back?

[Aaron Burrito]

I like how the show started with a match already in progress.:rolleyes:

And please get rid of that stupid ring.

[Kyle]

I actually thought it wasn't a bad idea, considering they only have an hour anyway. If they're trying to carry the Ultimate Fighter audience over to stay tuned to their show, what better way to open than with Joe kicking a busted open Daniels's head into the guard rail.

I agree on the ring, though. I'm not a fan of it, either, but it's their trademark, so it's probably not going away anytime soon.

[commish13]

The ring doesn't make any difference, it's just to help them look different from everyone else. I got over it long ago and I barely even notice anymore.

[Kugzilla]

I totally popped for Lil Spike Dudley.

[commish13]

I would have marked harder if I hadn't accidentally stumbled into finding out he was going to be there.

[Kid Brock]

Even with last nights card looking good on paper I fell asleep right after the 3D vs AMW match started. I don't know what it is I try and try but sometimes I just can't get behind it. It could be people like Mike Tenay and Jeremy Bore Ass that bothers me.

[Nimrod]

He's using the name "Spike Dudley" in TNA?

[Schnit Dick]

He's using the name "Spike Dudley" in TNA?

Hopefully he isnt Brother Spike....eeeeeeeeeeeccccccccccchhhhhhhhh

[Kyle]

Hopefully he isnt Brother Spike....eeeeeeeeeeeccccccccccchhhhhhhhh

It probably will be that, or Brother Matt (his real name) for a while.

Bubba Ray and D-Von are on record as saying that it's only a matter of time before they'll be able to call themselves the Dudley Boyz again, and that they will go back to the name when they are able to.

On a side note their anti-Canada angle sucks. And the only reason it worked for the WWF 10 years ago was because of how much Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels legitimately hated each other. It didn't work for WCW and it won't work here.

[commish13]

He's going by "Brother Runt".

[Kugzilla]

I look forward to the day they get the Dudley boys back, b/c it does not feel right...

I enjoyed the show. Samoa Joe and Daniels was awesome. The street fight was fun, and I think Sting's team has just the right miz of people to get the rub from the PPV main event.

Dissapointed we won't see Liger, but it does make the X-cup seem a little bigger.

I am very excited to see what the rating of this episode was, which ironically fell on the anniversary of ECW's first PPV, Barely Legal.

[Schnit Dick]

Why is it that they cant use the Dudley Boyz...I assume WWE has some sort of right to it, but then why would it suddenly be available to them

[Skeet Slambone]

I want to like TNA, I really really do. There are just a few glaring problems.

1. The matches are pretty much spot fests with a complete lack of in match story telling.
1-A. Big spots can take time to develop. When matches are full of big spots, the matches look so fake it's hard to suspend reality.

2. When I watch the main event storylines I feel like I am watching WCW circa 2000. Not because of the people, but becuase of the execution.

3. Enough...Jeff....Jarrett. I know he pretty much owns the company but, enough already.

4. STOP HAVING PPV's IN THE SAME ARENA YOU TAPE YOUR TV SHOWS. Find anyfuckingwhere else.

[Schnit Dick]

4. STOP HAVING PPV's IN THE SAME ARENA YOU TAPE YOUR TV SHOWS. Find anyfuckingwhere else.

They are starting to do shows else where but you have to look at a few things:

1 - They are still small and need to be able to afford a crew to set everything up and take it down and move it

2 - Its in Orlando, in Universal every day there is a different crowd

3 - Who the fuck cares, you watch it on the same TV dont you?

[Kugzilla]

Why is it that they cant use the Dudley Boyz...I assume WWE has some sort of right to it, but then why would it suddenly be available to them

My understanding is that Paul HEyman promised them the rights to the name after their ECW run. After the company and its assets were absorbed by WWE, they feel that they have ownership. The Dudley's I believe are contesting that.

[Kyle]

My understanding is that Paul HEyman promised them the rights to the name after their ECW run. After the company and its assets were absorbed by WWE, they feel that they have ownership. The Dudley's I believe are contesting that.

WWE trademarks all their wrestler names, nicknames, catchphrases, etc.

It's why Christian is now "Christian Cage," Rhyno is now "Rhino" and of course the Dudleys are "Team 3D."

The Dudleys were pursuing legal action based on the fact that they have a history of using the name before coming to WWE. I haven't heard much about it since. My guess is they'll probably have to wait it out. I'm not sure how long until the trademark expires. At any rate, it's better than calling themselves the "Deadly Boyz" like they were originally planning.

They should just name Spike "LSD" for now and put him back in the tye-dye.

[Schnit Dick]

It's why Christian is now "Christian Cage,"

Actually he was Christian Cage before coming to the WWF

[Kyle]

Actually he was Christian Cage before coming to the WWF

If he wanted to just go by Christian, though, he'd be sued. WWE trademarked that (but for some reason didn't trademark Captain Charisma despite making Captain Charisma merchandise).

[askewcore]

He still uses the Captain Charisma gimmick? I gave up on TNA long ago because it was just so fucking boring, I didnt feel like wasting the hour of TiVo time on it. I think someone mentioned this earlier in this thread but there's something about TNA that reminds me of the dark days of WCW. The wrestling itself is better but the presentation, or the storylines or something have me expecting the nWo Wolfpac to come out and shit in the middle of thier stupidly shaped ring.

[Skeet Slambone]

He still uses the Captain Charisma gimmick? I gave up on TNA long ago because it was just so fucking boring, I didnt feel like wasting the hour of TiVo time on it. I think someone mentioned this earlier in this thread but there's something about TNA that reminds me of the dark days of WCW. The wrestling itself is better but the presentation, or the storylines or something have me expecting the nWo Wolfpac to come out and shit in the middle of thier stupidly shaped ring.

I think it is the way they try to contrive drama. Everything takes 5 weeks to get an answer about.

1. From the time it was announced, to Sting's actual debut.

2. That stupid fucking tape or dirt or whatever the fuck Jackie had on Jarrett

3. Ahhh, gotem owwwn speeed daaail. 3 weeks later, we finally fucking find out who. (Which was really no surprise. A few weeks earlier the wrestling news sites reported Steiner as saying he's stopping Indy shows and may never be able to wrestle again. I saw Steiner come a fucking mile away.)

4. Then.. Sting talks about having someone on Speed Dial and we eventually get A.J. Styles, K-Kwik & Rhino. Speed Dial??? Why not talk to them backstage???? But alas, the real reasoning behind this is a reported attempt at Goldberg fell through. Just like WCW, plan a storyline around something non-confirmed, sell the fucking shit out it, only to have it be something that no where near matches the hype.

5. I will now reveal the reason why TNA is uber gay. When Sting gave his bullshit retirement speech, he hit the top of the ramp and said to Captain Cage Charisma Christian, "You know I love you like a brother".

REALLY, DO YOU. You love the guy who america has never fucking saw you in the same room with like a brother?? FUCK YOU..

[Kyle]

I think someone mentioned this earlier in this thread but there's something about TNA that reminds me of the dark days of WCW. The wrestling itself is better but the presentation, or the storylines or something have me expecting the nWo Wolfpac to come out and shit in the middle of thier stupidly shaped ring.

You'd don't like to get bowdy bowdy and rowdy rowdy?

"Don't turn your back on the Wolfpac...you might end up in a bodybag."




I do have to say that reminds of one of my favorite (or most hated) WCW moments when they were doing the nWo Hollywood/nWo Wolfpac gang war thing, and the big question was "Who will Sting choose?" and anybody who's ever watched wrestling understands that it had to end with Sting choosing to stand alone...that it was the only way the angle would make sense...except for whoever was writing WCW, because here comes Sting in stupid red face paint having a blast with his new buddies K-Dawg and Big Sexy.

http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Lagoon/6336/sting29.jpg

[Perch1019]

I want to like TNA, I really really do. There are just a few glaring problems.

1. The matches are pretty much spot fests with a complete lack of in match story telling.
1-A. Big spots can take time to develop. When matches are full of big spots, the matches look so fake it's hard to suspend reality.

I agree 100%. I used to watch the matches but I felt like something wasnt right. You finally made me realize. The X-Division is a cool idea but every time some big spot happens, you can see how they are setting it up and it just doesnt come across right.

Also enough with the "Im going to introduce him to... SIX SIDES OF STEEL!" We get it. Theres going to be a cage match.

Ive tried to get into it but I just cant. It really does feel like too much of old school WCW. Once they brought Steiner back, i threw in the towel.

Oh and Mike Teney is just painful to listen to. When hes standing in that right and introducion someone I just want the PA system to crash onto him

[atxklown]

I'm just waiting to see what happens in July when ICP and Rude Boy appears.

[Ping]

I'm usually 50/50 with TNA.. I understand their use of wastes of time and money like Scott Steiner, Kevin Nash, DDP, and the like that has passed in and out of the promotion.. I understand utalizing names like BG James, Billy Gunn, Konnan.. yeah, it grabs casual fans. What keeps me coming back in the fact they.. yeah.. use those douche bags.. but also have a line up of some of the hottest young talents in wrestling, all being introduced and built as on screen characters.

Alex Shelley, Chris Sabin, AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, Chris Daniels, Sonjay Dutt, Roderick Strong, Austin Aries, Homicide.. I watch TNA for THESE guys, yeah they aren't 100% of the show.. yeah sometimes they don't get utalized correctly.. but fuck, I'll sit through a lame Sting promo or a sad Konnan tag match to check out Alex Shelley versus Joe or something of that nature.. WWE can't beat that. Some of the stuff TNA offeres (especially on PPV) might be all over the place from "ick".. but there's ALWAYS that match or two that makes it worth the buy, always.

[CM Mark]

I'm usually 50/50 with TNA.. I understand their use of wastes of time and money like Scott Steiner, Kevin Nash, DDP, and the like that has passed in and out of the promotion.. I understand utalizing names like BG James, Billy Gunn, Konnan.. yeah, it grabs casual fans. What keeps me coming back in the fact they.. yeah.. use those douche bags.. but also have a line up of some of the hottest young talents in wrestling, all being introduced and built as on screen characters.

Alex Shelley, Chris Sabin, AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, Chris Daniels, Sonjay Dutt, Roderick Strong, Austin Aries, Homicide.. I watch TNA for THESE guys, yeah they aren't 100% of the show.. yeah sometimes they don't get utalized correctly.. but fuck, I'll sit through a lame Sting promo or a sad Konnan tag match to check out Alex Shelley versus Joe or something of that nature.. WWE can't beat that. Some of the stuff TNA offeres (especially on PPV) might be all over the place from "ick".. but there's ALWAYS that match or two that makes it worth the buy, always.


Quoted for truth.

Ever been to an RoH show? Most of those guys are RoH guys as well.

[Kid Brock]

Good ole RoH, where you get paid for the amount of work you do instead of who you are blowing in the lockerroom.

[Ploppy]

I've caught this awful show a couple of times. I gave up after the Mankind ripoff Abcess came out and terrorized everyone by..now turn your head if your squeemish...crossing his forearms into a "T"...oh the horror. His "handler" had pointy eyebrows..showing his evilness more than any goatee could.

It really does look like an updated version of WCW Saturday Night.

[commish13]

There's no need to hate on Abyss or Mitchell. Both of them own at just about the highest point of owning.

[Kyle]

It really does look like an updated version of WCW Saturday Night.

That's the biggest problem I see with it...the presentation of the show is just horrendous.

I don't know what kind of money they have to invest in better production, but it'd be money well spent.

I do like Abyss and James Mitchell, though. And Abyss is more of an early version of Kane rip-off if he is indeed a rip-off of anything. He does some amaizng things for a guy his size, though. In my limited viewing of TNA, I've gotten to see his matches with Sabu, Jeff Hardy, and Rhino, and he's fantastic in all of them.

[Chino Kapone]

did anyone catch the tna ppv this weekend? my buddies and i got it last night, and i was more entertained witht that than i was with any wwe ppv in the past year.

the final match of stings team vs. jarretts was pretty good. on top of the cage was a ladder and a table. climbed the ladder, then the lighting terrace and dropped off of that through the guy through the table. it was about a 10-11 foot drop.

in christians match he frog splashed from the top of the cage, and finished abyss with an unprettier on about 2000 tacs. it was nice.

[MinnesotaMolMan]

I agree...Lockdown was a very good PPV. I'm not sure about their weekly shows but TNA has hands down way better monthy PPVs.

[Standby]

Good ole RoH, where you get paid for the amount of work you do instead of who you are blowing in the lockerroom.

Been to only one ROH show but seen a lot of videos online, and own a few older DVDs. Wholeheartedly agree, sir. ROH is a wrestling purist's dream. And if you're the kind who's incredibly critical and able to just berate a match you know is amazing and you're enjoying, ROH fans are for you. I felt truly at home at the ROH anniversary show in Edison, NJ. If only they travelled further south to DC...

It's funny, I follow ROH now on their site and through PWTorch, and I can't begin to say how sad I was that Claudio Castagnoli turned to CZW against ROH. I've never felt that way about a WWE wrestler in a long time.

Now THAT'S how you do an invasion angle...

[Kyle]

I watched Impact straight through for the first time in a while. I have to say I really enjoyed it tonight.

My only question is where the hell is Monty Brown? One minute he's wrestling Christian for the title, the next he completely disappers from TV. Did Scott Steiner just completely usurp his spot with Jarrett, or did something else happen to him?

[commish13]

Knee surgery.

[Perch1019]

Um Lex Luger? They brought back fucking Lex Luger to team up with Sting? (My TiVo cut off as he was walking down so if he just took a beating an left fine) Its things like that that make me not wanna watch this stuff.
Not only that but they brought out Buff Bagwell before hand.

The guy who made the "Its like an updated WCW Sat night" was dead on.

[sinAtra]

I want to like TNA, I really really do. There are just a few glaring problems.

1. The matches are pretty much spot fests with a complete lack of in match story telling.
1-A. Big spots can take time to develop. When matches are full of big spots, the matches look so fake it's hard to suspend reality.

2. When I watch the main event storylines I feel like I am watching WCW circa 2000. Not because of the people, but becuase of the execution.

3. Enough...Jeff....Jarrett. I know he pretty much owns the company but, enough already.

4. STOP HAVING PPV's IN THE SAME ARENA YOU TAPE YOUR TV SHOWS. Find anyfuckingwhere else.

Good post. Agreement all the way around. Still, I watched the four-way Monster's Ball yesterday for the first time and it was the best spotfest I've seen in a long-ass time.

[Kyle]

Um Lex Luger? They brought back fucking Lex Luger to team up with Sting? (My TiVo cut off as he was walking down so if he just took a beating an left fine) Its things like that that make me not wanna watch this stuff.
Not only that but they brought out Buff Bagwell before hand.

The guy who made the "Its like an updated WCW Sat night" was dead on.

No, it was just a one night appearence...since Jarrett didn't pick one in TNA's 'deal or no deal,' the game show continues next week with new choices.

It's kind of weird, but if you read the spoilers, the payoff is good.

[Perch1019]

No, it was just a one night appearence...since Jarrett didn't pick one in TNA's 'deal or no deal,' the game show continues next week with new choices.

It's kind of weird, but if you read the spoilers, the payoff is good.

Can you PM me the spoilers please?

[Skeet Slambone]

Notice Lex Luger was wearing a very puffy suit jacket and looking like he's around 180lbs underneath it?

[Perch1019]

Notice Lex Luger was wearing a very puffy suit jacket and looking like he's around 180lbs underneath it?

Yea he really looked like total shit. His head did not look like it fit on that body anymore.

[commish13]

It's okay, though. I'm beyond pleased with Sting's actual partner, so the appearance of Buff and Luger and the guys who Sting will trot out next week doesn't bother me.

Also, the TNA iMPACT Zone fans SUCK SUCK SUCK. People wonder why they're hated... see: their reaction to Buff Bagwell.

[Skeet Slambone]

It's okay, though. I'm beyond pleased with Sting's actual partner, so the appearance of Buff and Luger and the guys who Sting will trot out next week doesn't bother me.

Also, the TNA iMPACT Zone fans SUCK SUCK SUCK. People wonder why they're hated... see: their reaction to Buff Bagwell.

And his real partner will be??

[Kyle]

Sting's Partner (http://www.superaction.co.kr/TNA/wrestler_profileimg/samoa_main.jpg)

[Perch1019]

Sting's Partner (http://www.superaction.co.kr/TNA/wrestler_profileimg/samoa_main.jpg)

Why is that a suprise? Hes already in TNA.

[Kyle]

Why is that a suprise? Hes already in TNA.

Well:
-you'd (or at least I'd) of expected them to pick a stiff like Luger or Bagwell, at the rate TNA's been going lately
-He is suppose to be a monster heel...Sting is the babyface of all babyfaces
-He is finally getting bumped up to the main event, where he belongs if TNA is ever going to blow up. Plus it means him vs. Christian matches can't be far off now which is money.

[Skeet Slambone]

It makes sense and there was a recent on camera conversation about him being too big for the X Division. I guess it makes sense. At this point, I just wish Sting would go to WWE for a year so they can release some bad ass Sting DVD's.

[OzCatter]

The only thing I have to say is, TNA>WWE. Maybe if the 'E didnt have Cena overcome the odds every week, maybe I'd appreciate it more

And this month's PPV:

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2540/sameoldcrap8iz.jpg

[Nimrod]

^
Hoo Hoo Hoo (http://wackbag.com/showpost.php?p=934932&postcount=3)

[commish13]

You both stole that from my black friend Will anyway.

[Nimrod]

You both stole that from my black friend Will anyway.

I never said that I made it

Does it really matter if he's black?

[commish13]

It's from the Colbert Report. He talked about his Black Friend (insert name here, I can't fucking rememeber, let's call him Leroy) during a segment in the show, and kept calling him "my black friend Leroy".

[CM Mark]

Ah, to have been AJ Styles last night and had my face buried in Gail Kim's twat. Yummy.

[Kyle]

After this week's Impact, I'm flip-flopping on what I thought about the Nash/X-Division angle.

If he pulls a Terry Funk and comes out of this making Sabin, Shelley, and Dutt bigger stars, then it will be a huge success, because Nash can still promote angles and draw interest from viewers which will help these guys (especially Shelley, pairing him up as Nash's protege, so to speak).

If he ends up destroying the X-Division to springboard back to TNA's main event scene, (and at the rate TNA is going, it wouldn't surprise me if they're salivating at a Nash/Sting match as if this is 1998) or destroys the guys who need the push, like Sabin, Dutt, and Lethal only to finally get his comeuppance by one of the big three (Styles, Joe, Daniels), it'll be a disaster.

I'm going to assume TNA is smart enough to realize Nash's is role is to put over other guys at this point.

Oh, and Gail Kim was absolutely smoking last week on Impact.

[TheKris]

Did they ever finish the angle they started with Dave (or Earl) Hebner? I remember a few weeks in a row he came out with a clipboard like he was scouting wrestlers. The announcers talked about him for a few weeks and that was it. Unless they wrapped it up and I missed it somehow.

[TheKris]

What are the actual rules to the King of the Mountain match? I wasn't really following TNA every week when they last had this match. I just hear it's an over-booked clusterfuck.

[commish13]

It's really pretty simple, there's just a lot to it. To win the match you must climb the ladder and put the belt up on the hook. It's a reverse ladder match.

However, before you can hang the belt you must score a pinfall or submission on one of the other four men in the match. Once you've done so you are eligible to hang the belt for the rest of the match.

If you are pinned or forced to submit you have to go into the penalty box for I believe 2 minutes.

[Moneysnatch25]

What are the actual rules to the King of the Mountain match? I wasn't really following TNA every week when they last had this match. I just hear it's an over-booked clusterfuck.

i've got the last one that they had around here somewhere.. PM me if you want it

[TheKris]

Ok I sorta understand. So the match is determined after you hang the belt? Or do you have to score another pinfall/submission after the belt's hung?

[TheKris]

Nevermind. Read it for the second time. Pinfall/submission first, then you have the right to hang belt. Once belt's hung, you're champ

[Skeet Slambone]

Did they ever finish the angle they started with Dave (or Earl) Hebner? I remember a few weeks in a row he came out with a clipboard like he was scouting wrestlers. The announcers talked about him for a few weeks and that was it. Unless they wrapped it up and I missed it somehow.

No. Yet another resemblence to Y2K WCW.

[Moneysnatch25]

Well this is just funny as all hell....(yes that is Billy Gunn err.. Monty Sopp errr KIP JAMES and BG JAMES-- as DVON and BROTHER RAY)

http://www.tnapics.com/albums/impactlive/2006/5/25/normal_IMG_8931.jpg

[commish13]

It was rather ridiculously not funny. I was sitting there watching and all I could think to myself was "where is Jason Sensation?"

[Skeet Slambone]

I thought it was a well done parody. Though road dogg's Jersey accent left something to be desired, otherwise it was good. I won't shit on it for the sake of shitting on it, I liked it.

[commish13]

I'm shitting on it because the only jokes were that Bubba is fat and that Devon is the black sidekick who only says one phrase.

Which is funny, since Road Dogg was a white guy with dreads and Billy Gunn is the shitty sidekick who only says one phrase.

Not to mention all they were trying to do is emulate what DX did years ago (except DX did it well) in their parody of the Nation. It was goofy. At least they stayed on a closeup of Gunn while he did the crotch chop. STOP DOING THAT YOU DUMB COCK

[Skeet Slambone]

I'm shitting on it because the only jokes were that Bubba is fat and that Devon is the black sidekick who only says one phrase.

Which is funny, since Road Dogg was a white guy with dreads and Billy Gunn is the shitty sidekick who only says one phrase.

Not to mention all they were trying to do is emulate what DX did years ago (except DX did it well) in their parody of the Nation. It was goofy. At least they stayed on a closeup of Gunn while he did the crotch chop. STOP DOING THAT YOU DUMB COCK

Yes. Stop the crotch chop. Just because he say's boooya, or some shit after doesn't make it cool.

I don't feel that DX had the market cornered on parodies.

VFW tag titles? I found that very funny.

I'm surprised they did it, considering that Team 3D are collectively getting fatter by the second. Brother Ray is a happy meal away from checking ID's at the Bar-A again.

[Kyle]

I'd love to play napalm girl with Gail Kim.

[Nimrod]

Gail is unbelievably smokin' hot
Why did WWE let her go? From what I remember, she wasn't bad in the ring.

[commish13]

They dropped her to make room for the diva search whores.

[Kyle]

I'm surprised they did it, considering that Team 3D are collectively getting fatter by the second. Brother Ray is a happy meal away from checking ID's at the Bar-A again.

I've got to admit, when I heard the Dudleys were heading to TNA, I thought it'd be a good move and I was interested to see them in a more high profile kind of role.

Yeah...they've pretty much underwhelmed to say the least, with the exception a few promos.

I know a lot of people are starting to say the same thing about Christian, too. I think the difference is Christian's been booked kind of badly because they pay so much attention to the Sting angle. He cuts great promos usually, and he's had some solid matches (considering his opponents have been Jarrett, Monty Brown and Abyss, although Abyss is awesome).

It's just that Christian will be cutting a promo about the NWA championship and Tenay will be screaming in the background about how we're going to "hear from Sting tonight." Who the fuck cares? I'm sick of Sting already. For one thing, he should never be allowed to talk. Ever.

[Skeet Slambone]

I've got to admit, when I heard the Dudleys were heading to TNA, I thought it'd be a good move and I was interested to see them in a more high profile kind of role.

Yeah...they've pretty much underwhelmed to say the least, with the exception a few promos.

I know a lot of people are starting to say the same thing about Christian, too. I think the difference is Christian's been booked kind of badly because they pay so much attention to the Sting angle. He cuts great promos usually, and he's had some solid matches (considering his opponents have been Jarrett, Monty Brown and Abyss, although Abyss is awesome).

It's just that Christian will be cutting a promo about the NWA championship and Tenay will be screaming in the background about how we're going to "hear from Sting tonight." Who the fuck cares? I'm sick of Sting already. For one thing, he should never be allowed to talk. Ever.

Kinda reminds me of Dubya Cee Dubya. Goldberg is the champ, but more importantly, what is Hollywood Hogan doing.

[Kugzilla]

This week's Impact was pretty decent-Christian finnaly cut a good promo, and they placed a lot of importance on the Title.

Samoa Joe really is the best thing in the biz right now-if they have him lose to Steiner, I think they are out of their minds.

Nash was actually a little funny, I hate to say, as I am not optimistic that he will do anything to put over anyone.

It should be a fun show on Sunday, 4th annual Slammiversary. I have to give them credit for making it 4 years.

[Kid Brock]

I actually thought that Nash vs Mr. X was very funny. The way he set all of his moves up real methodical on the midget was classic. The splash off the bottom rope and the move while sitting on the chair. Alex Shelly is a pretty good combo of wrestling ability and personality.

[Moneysnatch25]

The Nash segment last nite was HILLARIOUS! I had forgotten how funny big kev could be.. Alex Shelley is just coming into his own as a character in TNA and their on-screen relationship should provide some funny moments... But as far as the ppv on sunday? yuuuuucccch. KOTM is probably one of the worst conceived match concepts ever. The stench of WCW just reeks off that place... Borash, Tenay, Zybyszko, Steiner, Jarrett- - - just give the damn show to ROH so it can at least be watchable..

[MinnesotaMolMan]

I thought the card looks really solid.

You've got the King of the Mountain match which is a little over the top gimmicky but it's only once a year and it is basically a ladder match with 5 of the top wrestleres and who doesn't like a good ladder match.

Joe vs. Steiner. I have to agree to have Joe's streak end to Big Poppa Pump would be more than a little disheartening. If their styles can sync up at all and put on a good match this could be a really fun rivalry. The intensity has been off the charts so far.

Team 3D vs. The James Gang. The Dudleys vs. New Age Outlaws in case anyone didn't know. Both tag teams have been wrestling really good lately and if you've seen any of their match from the old ECW arena last weekend you'd know it's becoming a decent rivalry.

AMW vs. AJ Stlyes and Christopher Daniels. To me I'm a little disappointed that TNA is going for this match a third time. All four guys are excellent wrestlers and I think there will be a title change but I don't think it's smart to repeat a match from the previous PPV without some kind of a stipulation.

Kevin Nash vs. Chris Sabin. Nash has had me laughing my ass off the last couple of weeks. His half serious delivery has just been slaying me...the problem is can he put on a decent match especially against a goer like Sabin. I love the angle but I don't know if the match is going to set anyone on fire.

Rhino vs. Roode/D'Amore. A so-what match but at least Rhino will get the win since he reuped with TNA instead of jumping over to the trainwreck that is ECWWE.

Also they just added two more decent matches...

X Division contenders match. Elimination style Dutt vs. Shelley vs. Senshi vs. Shark Boy vs. Petey Williams vs. Jay Lethal. That could be the match of the night.

The Naturals vs. Team Canada. Naturals should go over in a big big way with The Franchise now managing them. He cut a killer promo last night and I'm excited to see him back on TV.

Plus the new face of TNA managment debuts....YUCK! The one thing that does remind me of WCW. They really need to steer clear of these sorts of things unless they are going to be knock you on your ass shockers.

[k5banga]

ARE YOU CRAZY the nash match was the highlight of the night, when he set up the chair just to deliver the boot, was funny

[Kid Brock]

Plus the new face of TNA managment debuts....YUCK! The one thing that does remind me of WCW. They really need to steer clear of these sorts of things unless they are going to be knock you on your ass shockers.


Does anyone care that it is going to be Jim Cornette? I personally like him, but it will end up sucking like every other management figure they have brought in. (Cyrus,Russo,Dusty,Zybysko)

[Evilpete]

why do I feel that the new face of managment is either Cornette (signed with them a long time ago but has had other commitments), or they wheel Jarrett's daddy out (hey, it's father's day, and another bullshit reason to hand Jeff the belt)?

[Kyle]

Yeah, I like this card for Slammiversary. I've got:

-The Naturals over A1 & Eric Young (pre-show)
-Senshi over the X-Division
-Team 3D over the James Gang
-Rhino over Bobby Roode and Scott D'Amore
-Chris Sabin over Kevin Nash
-A.J. Styles & Christopher Daniels over America's Most Wanted to capture the NWA Tag Titles
-Samoa Joe over Scott Steiner
-Christian Cage retains the NWA Heavyweight Title in the King of the Mountain match.

[Kyle]

Does anyone care that it is going to be Jim Cornette? I personally like him, but it will end up sucking like every other management figure they have brought in. (Cyrus,Russo,Dusty,Zybysko)

Yeah, the whole authority figure/commissioner gimmick is way played out but it's like nobody can get by without using it these days.

I'd like to see them get away from it completely. Or at the very least do something like the WWF used to do back in the 80-early 90s where they had "WWF President" Jack Tunney, but he'd only show up very rarely when a decision needed to be clarified or a big match needed to be made.

[Kugzilla]

SPOLIER ALERT>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>









Ok-PWinsider is reporting that a hidden link on TNA.com has given away an interview with Borasch where he discusses the "NEW CHAMP" will be on Impact this week.

THey don't give away who it is, but they do say "new champ"

[Kyle]

It honestly doesn't make sense to me to take the belt off Christian right now.

But if they do, my guess is Truth wins it, since they kind of started to turn Christian heel this week.

Plus Sting & Jarrett are still wrapped up with each other, and I don't think they'd put it on Abyss because it'd mean yet another Christian/Abyss match.

Truth as the face champ and Christian as the heel challenger makes sense.

That said, I still think Christian wins.

[Kugzilla]

I hope Truth gets it, though I think Christian needs the belt a little longer.

[MinnesotaMolMan]

I would like to see Christian hold it a while longer as well but the good thing about this match is that he doesn't really have to job to anyone so he still comes out of it looking really strong and makes for a good rematch. I also agree that it'll be the truth. Sting and Jarrett can have their own angle without the belt and it wouldn't make sense to give it to Abyss after he lost the last two PPV title shots.

[Kid Brock]

I would like to see Christian hold it a while longer as well but the good thing about this match is that he doesn't really have to job to anyone so he still comes out of it looking really strong and makes for a good rematch. I also agree that it'll be the truth. Sting and Jarrett can have their own angle without the belt and it wouldn't make sense to give it to Abyss after he lost the last two PPV title shots.


But Abyss is the 6'8" 350lb monster. Which would make him about the 20 biggest guy in the WWE.

[Kyle]

The way TNA should do it is...

Christian retains the title

Joe beats Steiner

They announced on Impact this week that Joe would defend the X-Division title on Impact next week, presumably against the winner of the X-Division match at Slammiversary. Senshi should win that match setting up Joe vs. Senshi for the X-Division title on Impact next week.

Next week, the show starts with Christian cutting a promo talking about winning the KOTM and how he's the greatest champ of all time and nobody can beat him. Joe comes out and confronts him saying he's never been beaten either and he'd kill Christian.

In the main event, Senshi wrestles Joe for the X-Division Title. Christian costs Joe the match, his undefeated streak, and the title.

And there you go...it's all set to go for a Christian/Joe NWA Title match for the next PPV. Of course, that's where I'd have Christian lose and put the strap on Joe.

[Kugzilla]

I like it. But it won't happen.

[Mick32]

He didn't just say "new champ" either, JB said "New NWA World Champion" a couple of times, if I remember correctly.
Oh, sorry, spoiler alert.

[BeltOfScotch]

But Abyss is the 6'8" 350lb monster. Which would make him about the 20 biggest guy in the WWE.

And add in the fact that Abyss is neither 6'8 or 350 pounds and the whole monster thing pretty much goes away.

[sinAtra]

I think TNA is moving in the right direction, provided douchebag grappler / owner Jarrett doesn't end up with the title - but enough about that. Can't stop thinking about Gail Kim.

[Mick32]

Kevin Nash powerbombed and pinned a midget on Impact this week. Not only that, he pulled the tights during the pinfall.
Kevin Nash, despite not being able to work a lick at this point, is absolute wrestling gold.

[Kugzilla]

So, who watched IMPACT this week? (July 4th week)

It was pretty darn decent.

[commish13]

I only saw parts of it. I saw the main event in full, though. I'll catch it tomorrow night if I'm around, otherwise I'll download it at watch it Sunday. Seemed decent.

[Kugzilla]

Was a solid show, where at least for a moment, it seemed that they get the fact that they need to be an alternative to wwe

[TheKris]

I've always been kinda down on TNA even though I watch it every week. Always reminded me of WCW Power Hour or something. But as long as I avoid the spoilers, I've really been into it lately. I think they're 100x better than ECW is. All TNA needs to somehow get a disgruntled Heyman and Dreamer (unfortunately, won't happen) and book it the way ECW should have been booked from the beginning.

[Kid Brock]

I don't mind watching TNA, but as soon as Mike Tenay opens his mouth I want Samoa Joe to come down and choke him out.

[Kugzilla]

I've always been kinda down on TNA even though I watch it every week. Always reminded me of WCW Power Hour or something. But as long as I avoid the spoilers, I've really been into it lately. I think they're 100x better than ECW is. All TNA needs to somehow get a disgruntled Heyman and Dreamer (unfortunately, won't happen) and book it the way ECW should have been booked from the beginning.

As cool as that would be, I don't see the JArrett's bringing Paul in, even if he were available, as anything more than an on screen character-they like the power just like Vincey does.

[Kid Brock]

Unfortunately we can't even blame stupid stuff in TNA on the Jarret's anymore because they haven't owned it in quite some time. It is a corporate thing now. In fact Double J's dad has brought talent over to Vince since the sold their share out.

[Kugzilla]

Unfortunately we can't even blame stupid stuff in TNA on the Jarret's anymore because they haven't owned it in quite some time. It is a corporate thing now. In fact Double J's dad has brought talent over to Vince since the sold their share out.

Yes, but they still have some say in the booking.

[chad dukes]

I think TNA has a good thing going right now. I was worried when I saw Lugar, Steiner and Bagwell show up on Impact, but the smattering of WCW names they have now is ok. Nash, Sting ans Steiner can help draw in people to appreciate how great some of TNA's talent really is. Joe, Daniels, Styles, Dutt, Petey Williams and Sabin are phenominal, I just hope TNA keeps pushing them and doesnt lean to heavily on the old gaurd.

[Kugzilla]

THey've got the hottest raw talent in wrestling right now. It's just going to be a matter of how they choose to use it.

[chad dukes]

THey've got the hottest raw talent in wrestling right now. It's just going to be a matter of how they choose to use it.

You know whats hilarious about the whole thing? TNA really is no threat to WWE yet, but Vince is completley worried about them. I think TNA is one of the main reasons ECW has a weekly show now. Look at Umaga. That cheesy fuck is a DIRECT responce to how big Joe is getting. Vince reads the rags, he sees how many covers Joe gets. So Vince comes up with the Samoan Bulldozer. But Vince can't just have a guy come out thats Samoan, he has to have some crazy sterotypical savage come out with face tattoos that can't speak english. It's so outdated its laughable. The one thing I like about TNA is the lack of cheesy ass 1980's gimmicks. Outside the Abyss gimmick, dudes pretty much just come out and wrestle.

[degeneratorruch]

I have to agree with Dukes, and not just because I miss both of his shows. TNA isn't really a threat at all, and yet so much is being done to try to counter them. Well, so much is being done aside from the most obvious thing, that being, increasing the wrestling. I also have to agree that what I do love about TNA is the lack of wacky gimmicks, and the formula of two wrestlers, wrestling, not for any story line reason, but just because it would be entertaining to see them fight.

Oh, and as a sidenote, I love the podcast. :)

[Flea_Man]

I can't wait for Victory Road. I hope Samoa Joe wins the 4 way and then beats Jarrett for the strap.

[Kugzilla]

I don't think I'm ordering VRoad, but might try and get the replay if I hear its good.

Vince always does better when he feels that he's in competition, so I"m ok with his seeing it that way. While they are not a financial force right now, some of the best young talent is locked into TNA right now, so in that manner, he is competing with them on some level. If the guys were not able to make a living from working TNA and supplementing it with ROH and Japan and so forth, they'd either be working at a gym, or for WWE.

Oh, and as far as Abyss being a hokey throwback, the word is that the mask is hiding a world of hurt.

As far as Umaga, the sad thing is that Jamal can actually wrestle, and Armando is a great valet...I hope they get away from the hokiness when they put him into a real program.

[commish13]

Pictures of maskless Abyss (http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/gallery/a/abyss.html)

[Kugzilla]

Point made I think.

[Kid Brock]

Pictures of maskless Abyss (http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/gallery/a/abyss.html)


I love that website. Like a big encyclopedia of wrestling. He is not very intimidating without the whole outfit. I notice one of those pics was from NWA Wildside that was a pretty good little fed not too long ago.

[Flea_Man]

Abyss rules. One of the best big men in the industry today. And a really nice guy.

[chad dukes]

Oh, and as a sidenote, I love the podcast. :)

Thanks. We got a gig in Phoenix. I'm having Devon Dudley on next friday and I think Tazz is coming on in 2 weeks.

[ratedRsuperstar]

look like anyone's watchin tonight but for those who missed it so far rhino started off slammin vince and ecw callin em out by name then torching the original ecw belt (supposedly). the james gang came out to a very loud "dx rejects" chants. norman smiley in action = more gooder

[FAngel]

I'm sorry if I sound like angry typing guy, but I have never been so infuriated after watching a wrestling segment in my life until I saw that Rhino promo.

Where do I start with that garbage? I guess I'll commend TNA management on finding the right size of nuts and bolts to put in a red bag to make it closely resemble a title belt. There's no fucking way Rhino or anybody in TNA has the balls to put the actual ECW Heavyweight Championship in a trash can and set it ablaze. He'd be penniless afterwards, and he just sounds bitter about the fact that he got into a shouting match with his wife in the Wrestlemania 21 hotel, knocking over a pot plant and getting fired as a result. He's lucky they invited him back for the first One Night Stand.

And calling out Vince McMahon to come down to the Impact Zone? Oh boy, Rhino, that's edgy! I've never heard anyone talk shit about Vince on an opposing program before.

That said, those points are miniscule in comparison to the bullshit Rhino said about "being sick of people living in the past." You DUMB MOTHERFUCKER, you're on the same TV show that has Scott Steiner, Kevin Nash, Sting, Jeff Jarrett and the new version of the New Age Outlaws being advertised for the next pay per view. Are you even listening to yourself?! That's the main reason TNA will never be on the same level as WWE - for every new talent they've elevated (AJ Styles, Christopher Daniels, Samoa Joe, Senshi to name a few) they have to rely on old skeletons for name value - and before you slam me saying WWE is doing the same thing with DX and Hogan at Saturday Night's Main Event, yes, I realize it's a 10 year old angle (DX), but WWE is not pretending they're being new and innovative with it.

End rant. I find it absolutely hilarious that SpikeTV issued a press release about this promo, as if it was supposed to be some big deal.

[Nimrod]

I agree with Rhino, ECW is dead. You can all slam me if you want about ECW. After all, Sabu did get dq'ed last week for using a table.

[TheKris]

I'm sorry if I sound like angry typing guy, but I have never been so infuriated after watching a wrestling segment in my life until I saw that Rhino promo.
.

I agree that it always looks 2nd rate when someone attacks Vince McMahon knowing damn well that he's not gonna answer back or show up to answer the challenge, but I really enjoyed Rhino's promo this week. I think mostly because what he had to say had a lot of truth in it and it felt like it was his own feelings and not a script written for him. At first I thought he was nuts not going to the new ECW and walking right into the main event scene (especially with RVD fucking himself) but now I'm not so sure. He's gonna make a lot less money with TNA but he'll remain a big fish in a small pond rather than take his chances in WWE and burning his bridge with TNA.

[Kugzilla]

I though tit was well done, and could be a huge boost for him, if TNA follows up properly.

[Kyle]

I just got around to watching this.

First off, a Rhino promo is like an unholy cross of Ken Shamrock and The Great Khali.

It's something that will get Rhino more over with the Impact Zone fans but other than that, I don't see what the point was. TNA isn't trying to fill the void left by the original ECW. It's not a "hardcore" type of federation. If anything, TNA is trending more towards WCW in the way company is set up.

And if the point was simply just to waste valuable time taking a shot at Vince, then they should have let The Franchise do it. He's at least coherent when he speaks.

[Kyle]

Looking at the Victory Road card, there's not a lot there outside of the Road to Victory match.

I think everyone believes Samoa Joe will win and then go on to win the title. I don't. I think Joe DOES win the #1 Contenders match, but loses to Jarrett in the title match by what's becoming the 'classic TNA screwjob finish.'

I'm actually hoping for this. Nothing would be funnier than the reaction the Impact Zone fans have when Jarrett becomes the first guy to pin Samoa Joe.

[Kyle]

Well, here's the results from TNA Victory Road:

-Johnny Devine def. Shark Boy
-The Naturals def. Diamonds In The Rough
-Rhino & Monty Brown wrestle to a no contest
-LAX def. Ron Killings & Sonjay Dutt
-Senshi def. Frankie Kazarian to retain the X Division Title
-Raven def. Larry Zybysko in a Hair vs. Hair match
-Chris Sabin & Jay Lethal def. Kevin Nash & Alex Shelley
-Abyss & The James Gang def. Team 3D
-A.J. Styles, Christopher Daniels, and Zerelda def. America's Most Wanted & Gail Kim
-Sting def. Scott Steiner, Samoa Joe, and Christian Cage to become the #1 contender to the NWA Heavyweight Title


Giving the title shot to Sting makes sense to me. They still need to establish Joe's character some more. He's popular in the Impact Zone and with ROH fans, but that's a very small percentage of wrestling fans as a whole. A nice slow push to the belt is better for him in the long run. And Christian wouldn't have made sense because they're making his long slow heel turn. And Steiner...well, he shouldn't get near the belt.

So that left Sting, who is, whether TNA fans want to acknowledge or not, the most recognizable guy on the roster. They build Sting/Jarrett for the next month, have Christian cost him the title at next month's PPV, turning heel in the process, and then you do Joe/Jarrett, while drawing out the Christian/Sting feud.

Seems like a good move to me. But, I'm sure TNA fanboys will be typing angrily the next few days.

[Flea_Man]

Sting vs. Jarrett = holy 2000

[Kugzilla]

Apparently, the crowd was calling for Joe all night, and people are saying that the crowd kinda crapped all over the Sting win when it settled in.

[Standby]

Apparently, the crowd was calling for Joe all night, and people are saying that the crowd kinda crapped all over the Sting win when it settled in.

Yeah I got that feeling too. However, that PPV was still something solid. TNA really is making headway in competing with WWE, and the ratings continue to remain solid. The big names of years past are the draw, and once they hook someone in, you can see that TNA is so much more than that.

And most importantly... what we've all wanted...the push... of ERIC YOUNG.

[Kyle]

I finally got motivated to watch some TNA tonight. Got to say it was a very good episode.

Two quality matches (Joe/Truth and Sabin/Dutt/Lethal vs. Shelley/Devine/Williams) and a kickass heel promo by Christian. Got to mention the AJ Styles/Christopher Daniels vs. LAX feud too...jesus, can Daniels bleed.

Looks like they're taking some steps in the right direction. They need to develop the personalities of the X Division guys a little more. Shelley and Devine are coming along but Sabin, Lethal, Dutt, and Williams don't have much direction as far as developing their characters.

Still a nice job all around. Jarrett vs. Sting as the top program is still a problem because it's a match no one wants to see, but it looks like Christian could come out the winner in all this. His character has taken an awesome turn because of the role he's played in it.

[Standby]

I finally got motivated to watch some TNA tonight. Got to say it was a very good episode.

Two quality matches (Joe/Truth and Sabin/Dutt/Lethal vs. Shelley/Devine/Williams) and a kickass heel promo by Christian. Got to mention the AJ Styles/Christopher Daniels vs. LAX feud too...jesus, can Daniels bleed.

Looks like they're taking some steps in the right direction. They need to develop the personalities of the X Division guys a little more. Shelley and Devine are coming along but Sabin, Lethal, Dutt, and Williams don't have much direction as far as developing their characters.

Still a nice job all around. Jarrett vs. Sting as the top program is still a problem because it's a match no one wants to see, but it looks like Christian could come out the winner in all this. His character has taken an awesome turn because of the role he's played in it.

So much of TNA has become strict face and strict heel oriented, that guys like Samoa Joe and now Christian can pull off the middle road thing. Cage never aligned with Jarrett, he never turned his back on anyone outside of Sting. But I totally agree he will come out of this looking the best.

It really is nice to see TNA acknowledge who their long term investments are, rather than the big names of yester-year. Still baby steps, but they already know they can churn out a good product. The first PPV on the road is going to be a huge leap though.

[commish13]

Christian's reason for turning on Sting was quite well explained, by the way. Bravo.

[ratedRsuperstar]

i've been watching TNA since the got off of PPV and at first i was a little reluctant because it was very predictable and cheesy. since then they have aquired a fairly good lineup and are beginning to attempt some storylines that remind me a Russo-era WCW. the X division is what the cruiserweights of wwe SHOULD be like but they have become so few in numbers now that the CW title has as much significance as the women's belt. samoa joe is a hell of an athlete for his size, monty brown SUCKS on a mic, and the canadian destroyer is the best finisher around. tna was very good last night other than the quick 4way.

[Dick Whiskey]

the canadian destroyer is the best finisher around.
Well, no shit.:clap: :clap: :clap:

[Aizazzle]

I watch only a little bit of TNA and I have gotta admit it is a good product

As a loyal WWE guy I wish Vince would have gotten Samoa Joe and kept Christian ( maybe in the long run give him the title) .

TNA can be a great product if they use their young talent coorectly.

Gail Kim is very hot . I would like to have a threesome with her and Michelle Wie .

By the way how long is Christian's and Samoa Joe's contract? Love to see them in the WWE

[commish13]

So you mean you would love to never see Christian doing anything on television and seeing Joe be horribly misused?

[Aizazzle]

So you mean you would love to never see Christian doing anything on television and seeing Joe be horribly misused?


Actually I would want them to be in the main event .That is why I would want them in the WWE to be main-eventers like they deserve to be. No I would actually like a Samoan angle where they weren't a wild animal . I always liked Christian and I still do (No Homo)

[Kyle]

Actually I would want them to be in the main event .That is why I would want them in the WWE to be main-eventers like they deserve to be. No I would actually like a Samoan angle where they weren't a wild animal . I always liked Christian and I still do (No Homo)

Well, at the risk of being "stating the obvious guy" neither would get near the main event in WWE.

They could have gone all the way with Christian when him and Jericho were feuding with Cena over the belt last May. Instead, Jericho got the push (and then promptly left) and Christian was shipped to Smackdown and plummeted down the card from misuse.

That was WWE's way of saying he's not "a WWE type of guy."

And Joe...well, he'd get the Umaga push and then never be heard from again like Umaga will be after another two months.

[Aizazzle]

The Wrestling Observer Newsletter reports that Spike TV and TNA are currently negotiating the terms for a new two-hour TV show.

The day, start date, and airing time have not yet been decided. The only thing that is certain right now is that the show likely will not be airing on Mondays.


That's interesting .


Anyway I was just hoping Christian and Joe would get the main - event if they ever signed with the WWE .And Vince is stupid in his thinkng that guys like Joe and Christian should not get the main event

Vince was stupid by pushing Christian to Smackdown . Umaga is here to stay in my opinion . With this Kane feud I think they are probably gonna push him . Anyway whatever happened to Rikishi . I wanna see Umaga vs Rikishi at Wrestlemania 23

[Kyle]

TheUmaga is here to stay in my opinion . With this Kane feud I think they are probably gonna push him .

I seriously doubt it. This has happened a million times in WWE. They build these "monsters" or "savages," and push them to the moon. The problem is you back yourself into a corner creatively when you give someone that "monster" or "savage" label.

There's only so much you can do...as soon as the top face on RAW beats him (Cena or HHH), his momentum will come to a screeching halt. And then they'll do the "Umaga turns on Estrada and goes face" angle and that'll last a few months, and then he'll burn out with them having nothing left to do for him.

Kane is really the only one WWE has built that has had staying power, and they've defied logic many times in explaining Kane's transformation from how he came into WWE to what his now.

It's a shame too, because Jamal's a pretty good wrestler. Maybe they'll repackage him eventually in a better gimmick, but I doubt they will. They should have built his gimmick exactly like Samoa Joe's instead of combining Joe with Afa to make Umaga.

[Aizazzle]

I seriously doubt it. This has happened a million times in WWE. They build these "monsters" or "savages," and push them to the moon. The problem is you back yourself into a corner creatively when you give someone that "monster" or "savage" label.

There's only so much you can do...as soon as the top face on RAW beats him (Cena or HHH), his momentum will come to a screeching halt. And then they'll do the "Umaga turns on Estrada and goes face" angle and that'll last a few months, and then he'll burn out with them having nothing left to do for him.

Kane is really the only one WWE has built that has had staying power, and they've defied logic many times in explaining Kane's transformation from how he came into WWE to what his now.

It's a shame too, because Jamal's a pretty good wrestler. Maybe they'll repackage him eventually in a better gimmick, but I doubt they will. They should have built his gimmick exactly like Samoa Joe's instead of combining Joe with Afa to make Umaga.

It certainly will be shame if they do that to him .
I think they gotta transform like make him do you know promos where he learns english and becomes normal .

You know sometimes I wonder why is poor Glen(Kane) Jacobs always involved in bad storylines?

I want Estrada to stay I love the guy .(No Homo)

[Kyle]

Damn, Christian is on fire. Another awesome promo this week. And another really good episode of TNA. Two nice tag matches including a title change.

[Kid Brock]

If TNA wants some instant buzz all they have to do is borrow American Dragon from RoH and put him versus Samoa Joe on Impact for the free world to see.

[BeltOfScotch]

A random match with zero backstory, no matter how good it is, will not build long term interest in the show.

[Kid Brock]

Trust me at this point the wrestling world will take a 5 star match with "zero backstory" over the story lines that are being run out there week after week currently.

[BeltOfScotch]

People like you and I who post on internet sites would love it. TNA needs to get the interest of the casual fan, and no 5 star match with nothing behind it will make that happen. Now if you wanted to bring Danielson in, come up with a good storyline for him and Samoa Joe that spans over several weeks and leads to a great 5 star match at a PPV, that will get people interested. Just a match won't work.

[ratedRsuperstar]

TNA has really got my attention as of late. i read an interview with aj styles and apparently midway is developing a tna game with the help of tna wrestlers that are also avid gamers. hopefully this sting/jarrett stuff will die down at least until after no surrender as they'll be hypin the jarrett/samoa joe match. stings contract is up in october i believe which happens to be when bound for glory will happen. also scott steiner's been absent for a few weeks. (probably violated their wellness policy). also according to wwe.com ron "the truth" killings and monty brown's contracts are expiring soon. hmmmm....
i haven't seen the truth wrestle a good match for a while until last night against christian. his suplex to stunner move was nice.

[commish13]

He had a good match against Joe a couple weeks ago... and you heard that those guys' contracts were up soon on WWE.com? I find that a bit hard to believe, sir.

[Aizazzle]

He had a good match against Joe a couple weeks ago... and you heard that those guys' contracts were up soon on WWE.com? I find that a bit hard to believe, sir.

Whose contract is coming up soon?

[commish13]

oba just said that he saw on wwe.com that killings and monty's contracts are up soon

while that's true, he didn't see it on wwe.com

[Kyle]

I don't know that WWE would be interested in either guy...of the two, I'd think they'd go after Killings first.

Monty Brown sucks. The only reason to get him would be for the ability to hype him as a former NFL linebacker the same way TNA did, build him into a monster in a bunch of squash matches, and then have someone like Cena crush him. He has no long term value.

[bloody hymen]

I watch only a little bit of TNA and I have gotta admit it is a good product

As a loyal WWE guy I wish Vince would have gotten Samoa Joe and kept Christian ( maybe in the long run give him the title) .

TNA can be a great product if they use their young talent coorectly.

Gail Kim is very hot . I would like to have a threesome with her and Michelle Wie .

By the way how long is Christian's and Samoa Joe's contract? Love to see them in the WWE

This is why they'd just be lost in the wwe:

Scott Hall Looking To Join WWE Or TNA
Date Added: September 09, 2006
Story By: Daniel Pena
source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter

Scott Hall, who will turn 48 years old next month, is currently training in hopes of making an in-ring comeback. Scott Hall and Sean Waltman have talked over an idea where DX would feud with the nWo. They plan on pitching the idea to WWE. Coincidently, a few people within WWE have proposed the idea of a DX vs. nWo feud as well, although there are several people adamantly against the idea.

-they're too desperate to try and win back the older fans by bringing in older wrestlers and rehashing tired angles...mr. mcmahon anyone? dx/nwo might be entertaining if they had dx ditch the juvenile antics. it worked in the '90's but these guys are in their mid to late 30's, it just doesn't work now.

I don't know that WWE would be interested in either guy...of the two, I'd think they'd go after Killings first.

Monty Brown sucks. The only reason to get him would be for the ability to hype him as a former NFL linebacker the same way TNA did, build him into a monster in a bunch of squash matches, and then have someone like Cena crush him. He has no long term value.

I've heard a lot that Brown isn't even that crazy about wrestling, he uses the tv exposure for recognition to help his gym and other ventures.

[Aizazzle]

TNA backstage morale is down again. There is now a real divide between the star group (Nash, Sting, Angle, Christian, Jarrett) and the rest of the roster. The star group not only get more money but also have a separate dressing room to the rest of the workers.

Way to go

WCW2

Idiots

[Standby]

TNA backstage morale is down again. There is now a real divide between the star group (Nash, Sting, Angle, Christian, Jarrett) and the rest of the roster. The star group not only get more money but also have a separate dressing room to the rest of the workers.

Way to go

WCW2

Idiots

Maybe they should turn this into an angle. Have the big names be called something like the Millionaire's Club... you know, cause they've got a lot of money and all the perks and stuff?

Then you take the guys who are talented, and align them together and make them faceless, and call them something like the New Blood. Cause they're newer to the public eye, and it'll be cool.

Then we take the crowd, and have them completely not buy into it, and support the wrong side, that being the former.

Oh...wait... :icon_roll

[MinnesotaMolMan]

Maybe they should turn this into an angle. Have the big names be called something like the Millionaire's Club... you know, cause they've got a lot of money and all the perks and stuff?

Then you take the guys who are talented, and align them together and make them faceless, and call them something like the New Blood. Cause they're newer to the public eye, and it'll be cool.

Then we take the crowd, and have them completely not buy into it, and support the wrong side, that being the former.

Oh...wait... :icon_roll

As a rare wrestling fan that enjoyed the Russo era in WCW I take offense.

Long live Earnest The Cat Miller

[Aaron Burrito]

Speaking of TNA...

TNA video game trailer (http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/814/814948/vids_1.html)