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TimTA95
04-20-2006, 12:33 PM
http://mediamatters.org/items/200604190001
Not that I would expect anything less from this sack of cunt, but this irritates me to no end. Michael, get in a coffin and die.
That liberal media and their pinko commie, homofascist bear agenda
The Sarge
04-20-2006, 01:04 PM
I like Savage. His rants are pretty well spoken.
Diceman Cometh
04-20-2006, 03:12 PM
Savage is the scum of the Earth. People like him and Ann Coulter make careers out of hate-mongering. Their hatred of liberalism borders on the pathological. They love to paint all liberals as pot-smoking marxist anarchists, which is just as fallacious as painting all conservatives as blood-thirsty imperial elitists.
Coffee Diva
04-20-2006, 03:23 PM
Here, you have a drunken slut stripping whore...
Uh ... is this supposed to be a bad thing?
TimTA95
04-20-2006, 03:24 PM
To their defence there are plenty of liberal talk show hosts that run on nothing but rage to get viewers but I have yet to hear anyone advocating the deaths of thousands of people. But if more evidence comes out about the Duke **** case, Savage... sorry I mean Michael Wiener, his real last name may be right about the stripper for being a drunk slut.
Death Metal Moe
04-20-2006, 03:47 PM
I know's the easy answer here but
Michael Savage............
SHITDICK!
tattered
04-20-2006, 04:20 PM
i dunno he made sense to me
Diceman Cometh
04-20-2006, 05:08 PM
i dunno he made sense to me
Killing 100 million people makes sense to you?
Mother Shucker
04-20-2006, 05:16 PM
Killing 100 million people makes sense to you?
I would not stop it.......
Just sayin.......
YourAmishDaddy
04-20-2006, 05:35 PM
I love Michael Savage.. Nothing more entertaining than listening to a "reformed" Berkley beatnik Jew advocate locking people into camps and genocide.
abudabit
04-20-2006, 06:19 PM
Definitely the most entertaining of the political talkers. The guy is a fucking nut and I love him for that. He isn't one of these cold calculating partisan opportunists like the Rush's and Air Americas - he is just a flat out fucking psychopath. More crazy = more gooder radio.
Charliefox
04-20-2006, 06:44 PM
Just another right wing/left wing fucking asshole with an agenda. Besides, I think his whole "schtick" is an act.
Charliefox
04-20-2006, 06:47 PM
Tim's right....just turn on any AM radio station, and you hear nothing but Liberal fear-inducing and hate-spewing. So much anger from dem damn libs. They should just lighten up.
patbattlefield
04-21-2006, 12:46 AM
ha, he has balls i'll give him that.
Tommy Ceez
04-21-2006, 01:32 AM
I got a copy of his 'book'...what an unreadable piece of shit
FreeTheCricket
04-21-2006, 01:54 AM
But... wait... she ISN'T a "drunken slut stripping whore"??
Was she drunk? Check.
Was she stripping? Check
Is she a slut? (What stripper isn't?) Check.
Is she a whore? Depends. Most strippers are about 100 bucks from being whores. So, this one is a toss-up. For now.
Where did he go wrong again? Oh, yeah... the "kill 100 million muslims" thing. Huh... I guess it's fine for them to say they want to kill all Americans - every man, woman, and child, (which is more than 100 million people), but when an American says something along those lines, he's a "sack of cunt".
He later asked: "What kind of system do we have that anyone can scream **** and not have to show her face?" adding, "This is all the product of the out-of-control lesbian feminist movement."
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
I disagree with alot of what he says, but God damn I love him.
And he is completely right about the whore.
Diceman Cometh
04-21-2006, 03:03 AM
But... wait... she ISN'T a "drunken slut stripping whore"??
Was she drunk? Check.
Was she stripping? Check
Is she a slut? (What stripper isn't?) Check.
Is she a whore? Depends. Most strippers are about 100 bucks from being whores. So, this one is a toss-up. For now.
Technically, you can say that Matthew Shepard was a cock-sucking faggot (which is true - he sucked cock, and was in fact a faggot) but what would be your reaction if you heard Bill O'Reilly call him that after Shepard was murdered? You don't think that is a bit inappropriate? You don't think that statement condones gay bashing?
She may have been a drunk, stripping, (possible) whore...that doesn't mean that the men that supposedly ***** her shouldn't be punished, if they did in fact **** her. And Savage still has no fucking way of knowing what really happened. They could have used a condom and not gotten any cum on/in her. There was an arrest despite that fact, so it's not unreasonable to believe that they might still have some evidence on at least one of these guys.
He later asked: "What kind of system do we have that anyone can scream **** and not have to show her face?" adding, "This is all the product of the out-of-control lesbian feminist movement."
And how many women (who are actually *****) do you think might choose not to come forward if they know their face will be all over the media? If she is found to be guilty of perjury, by all means, show her face.
Where did he go wrong again? Oh, yeah... the "kill 100 million muslims" thing. Huh... I guess it's fine for them to say they want to kill all Americans - every man, woman, and child, (which is more than 100 million people), but when an American says something along those lines, he's a "sack of cunt".
When a democratically-elected leader of a Muslim nation calls for the eradication of 100 million Westerners, then maybe you can attribute his statement to the entire population of said country. But no such thing has occured, so until then, Savage's problem is with the Islamofacists, which make up a relatively small minority in the Muslim world.
It's interesting that, in a letter intercepted by the Mossad that was written by Bin Laden's #2 guy and sent to al-Zarqawi, Zarqawi was told by the heads of al-Quada that his viscious and bloody tactics are not flying well with the majority of Arabs.
And how many women (who are actually *****) do you think might choose not to come forward if they know their face will be all over the media? If she is found to be guilty of perjury, by all means, show her face.
Tough shit. Women should not be able to drag men's name through the media mud without showing her face and little to no evidence. Buck the fuck up.
sclone
04-21-2006, 09:55 AM
Where did he go wrong again? Oh, yeah... the "kill 100 million muslims" thing. Huh... I guess it's fine for them to say they want to kill all Americans - every man, woman, and child, (which is more than 100 million people), but when an American says something along those lines, he's a "sack of cunt".
Is someone defending muslims who vow to kill all Americans? You're not making a very good point. You're basically saying that Michael Savage is just as vile as Western-hating muslims, and he should be condemned similarly. Either that, or you're saying his hate is justified, in which case I guess you're also condoning the words and actions of militant muslims... You can't have it both ways...
Cromwell
04-21-2006, 10:11 AM
I love Savage.
I own and have read both of his books, and listen to his radio show every chance I get.
He speaks the truth.
sclone
04-21-2006, 10:22 AM
I love Savage.
I own and have read both of his books, and listen to his radio show every chance I get.
He speaks the truth.
That's frightening. I thought even Michael Savage fans realized how completely full of shit he is. I used to listen to him everyday on the way home from work because he's such a kook.
Diceman Cometh
04-21-2006, 02:48 PM
Tough shit. Women should not be able to drag men's name through the media mud without showing her face and little to no evidence. Buck the fuck up.
No one is saying the girl shouldn't have to produce evidence. That's why I said that if it is established that the girl is full of shit, I'd have no problem with showing her face.
abudabit
04-21-2006, 06:10 PM
If she is full of shit, she should be arrested.
But anyways, I think the controversial comment was the muslims thing, not about that stripper who most people think is full of shit. We shouldn't massacre muslims, we should just let Family Guy air images of Muhammed.
NikDaSchwugie
04-22-2006, 04:33 PM
This is exactly why **** goes so underreported in this country. Report a **** and people jump all over the victim, implying that just because she's a stripper, she deserved it. Victim blaming at its finest.
When it's not legal to drag the victim's reputation through the mud, arguing about what she wore, what she does for a living, whether she was drunk or not, if she had any prior criminal convictions, then you can show her face. Meanwhile, other sexual assualt victims are looking at this case, and thinking, "if I come forward, they will do the same thing to me" and stay quiet.
If she was only beaten, no one would have a thing to say. Because there's sex involved, everyone wants to get on their high horse and "protect the accused".
Swamp CAve
04-22-2006, 04:45 PM
I like when Savage comes up for nicknames for people he hates.... James Carville "Alligator Man" is one of my favorites.
As much as I disagree with his stances, he is entertaining to listen too.
TurboDan
04-23-2006, 01:00 AM
I listen to Savage almost every night. He's fucking great! No PC bullshit, tells it like it is, says what's on his mind just like most of would if we were talking about politics. I've read his books too, and they're pretty entertaining.
Liberalism IS a mental disorder!
Diceman Cometh
04-23-2006, 02:06 AM
Images inserts aren't working for some reason, mods...sorry for the double post.
Diceman Cometh
04-23-2006, 02:11 AM
Liberalism IS a mental disorder!
http://www.hjo3.net/orly/gal2/orly
sclone
04-23-2006, 12:02 PM
I listen to Savage almost every night. He's fucking great! No PC bullshit, tells it like it is, says what's on his mind just like most of would if we were talking about politics. I've read his books too, and they're pretty entertaining.
Liberalism IS a mental disorder!
Tells it like it is, right... Except he changed his name from the very Jewish Michael Weiner... And he probably isn't too proud of the fact that he used to swim naked with Allen Ginsberg in Fiji... I'm sure he curses those pictures every time he wishes AIDS on "sodomites." He's a piece of shit, and a complete and total phony. Plus, I don't trust any nutritionists over 250 pounds (yeah, his education is in herbalism). What a fraud.
TimTA95
04-23-2006, 01:07 PM
Hey, Hitler told it as it is too, he was heated and was entertaining to listen to as well. Nothing bad came out of it too.
TurboDan
04-23-2006, 01:47 PM
Hey, Hitler told it as it is too, he was heated and was entertaining to listen to as well. Nothing bad came out of it too.
OK, so from now on we'll all cowtow to the PC assholes and keep all of our views bottled up unless they fall in line with what self-hating white liberal intelligencia from Manhattan. What a wonderful world THAT would be.
You know who else "told it like it was," by the way? Thomas Paine, Abraham Lincoln, Ronald Reagan, etc., etc....
TurboDan
04-23-2006, 01:50 PM
Tells it like it is, right... Except he changed his name from the very Jewish Michael Weiner... And he probably isn't too proud of the fact that he used to swim naked with Allen Ginsberg in Fiji... I'm sure he curses those pictures every time he wishes AIDS on "sodomites." He's a piece of shit, and a complete and total phony. Plus, I don't trust any nutritionists over 250 pounds (yeah, his education is in herbalism). What a fraud.
Oh, please. It's a radio name. He published plenty of books under his given name - it's not like he was embarassed about it. He first used Michael Savage because it was a catchy name for his demo tape "The Savage Nation."
I don't know anything about swimming naked, but hey, when in Rome.... :action-sm Besides, I thought you people on the left thought that being naked is just "being comfortable in your sexuality."
He also seems to be in pretty good shape from what I've seen. He walks every night after his broadcast and goes sailing all the time, which (in my experience) requires you to be in decent shape. Plus, the guy is in his '60s, he's not going to have a 25 year old's body.
abudabit
04-23-2006, 01:56 PM
Tells it like it is, right... Except he changed his name from the very Jewish Michael Weiner... And he probably isn't too proud of the fact that he used to swim naked with Allen Ginsberg in Fiji... I'm sure he curses those pictures every time he wishes AIDS on "sodomites." He's a piece of shit, and a complete and total phony. Plus, I don't trust any nutritionists over 250 pounds (yeah, his education is in herbalism). What a fraud.
Actually I believe he mentions both of those. And he does mention being Jewish every day. And if you are going to have a talk show like his, would you rather have Weiner or Savage as your stage last name?
Sure, he is probably overacting. But the guy really is a legitimate nut. And all that stuff which you think he covers up he talks about all the time. He always is talking about his old days in natural medicine, hippy world trips, swimming naked with ginsberg, etc.
YourAmishDaddy
04-23-2006, 01:57 PM
I love it when people on the left call out other people for being "on the left"
abudabit
04-23-2006, 02:06 PM
This is exactly why **** goes so underreported in this country. Report a **** and people jump all over the victim, implying that just because she's a stripper, she deserved it. Victim blaming at its finest.
Nobody is saying she deserved to get ***** - we are saying the **** never happened. :action-sm
No physical evidence, her witness changing her story, her witness saying she doesn't have any reason to think a **** happened other than one of the guys being rude, alibies, etc. She might have been *****, but it seems more likely she is full of shit.
Meanwhile the names and faces of the accused get plastered everywhere, even though it seems likely they are innocent. HOW THE FUCK IS THAT FAIR?
Listen to Patrice's story, listen to Kobe's story, tell me that false accusations aren't super common. Patrice got accused of **** because his friend was shit talking, Kobe got accused of **** because he tried a sexual move she didn't pre-approve while they were having CONSENTUAL sex. False convictions of **** are getting overturned all the time because of DNA evidence, nothing happens to the false accusers. The thousands of people getting inprisoned for years, decades of thier lives based on false accusations is fucking shameful.
Either keep both parties identities secret, or reveal the identity of both parties. To have the accused put in the spotlight and have the accuser hidden is textbook bias and guilty-before-proven-innocent.
FreeTheCricket
04-23-2006, 02:07 PM
Yeah, FUCK people who go on the radio with fake names!!!
I'm gonna go listen to OPIE and Anthony.
He's a radio guy, he says what his audience wants to hear, he uses a fake name. OH NO!!!
Get over it. :icon_roll
Death Metal Moe
04-23-2006, 02:15 PM
I used to really be into Conservative Radio, especially while O&A were off the air and Ron and Fez got fucking moved to DC.
Savage was STILL unlistenable to me. I listened to Rush, Hannity, Levigne, a lot of the WABC line up here in the NYC area. Savage just sucks.
YourAmishDaddy
04-23-2006, 02:24 PM
I like Savage, but it's just entertainment.
Besides the bigger thing isn't his fake name, but his fake political views.
Mr Berkley beatnik does play his role well though.
Cromwell
04-23-2006, 02:55 PM
That's frightening. I thought even Michael Savage fans realized how completely full of shit he is. I used to listen to him everyday on the way home from work because he's such a kook.
Why is *my opinion* "frightening" to you?
Because *you* don't feel that way?
Face it - the guy is popular - gets good ratings. Is intelligent (has all kinds of botany degrees) and widely listened to.
Let me guess - you are a "Ron Bennington liberal" (i.e, phony Ted Kennedy limousine liberal).
I don't care for your kind.
I will reserve my right to believe what I believe. I have *passion* for it.
Oh - and do I realize when Savage is doing "schtick"? Yeah - of course. You'd have to be pretty gullible not to.
He's entertaining - in the same way Limbaugh is (I mean - didn't every get the whole "with half my brain tied behind my back - just to make it fair" gag?)
I also realize when Jimmy and Anthony are exaggerating as well :rolleyes:
But - I enjoy reading what Savage has to say - along with Ann Coulter and Michelle Malkin - and those who share the same belief system as then.
But - sorry to "frighten" you.
Death Metal Moe
04-23-2006, 02:59 PM
Let me guess - you are a "Ron Bennington liberal" (i.e, phony Ted Kennedy limousine liberal).
Ron leans left, but he's funny, so he gets a pass. Please don't try to compare a professional entertainer/comedian and uesless politicians again.
abudabit
04-23-2006, 03:17 PM
I like Savage, but it's just entertainment.
Besides the bigger thing isn't his fake name, but his fake political views.
Mr Berkley beatnik does play his role well though.
I don't think they are a total fabrication, but he definitely has the smell of 'over the top guy'. He really seems like one of those "Up top bro!" people Burr was talking about.
You know what I would do, dude? I'd kill 100 million muslims! Up top, bro!
YourAmishDaddy
04-23-2006, 03:21 PM
You're right. It's his schtick. I used to be into his show a lot, mainly because he portrays himself as the non connected outsider. But once you get about 10 million listeners it's hard to maintain that. Now I basically tune in to laugh. He does tell pretty good stories.
Diceman Cometh
04-23-2006, 03:22 PM
OK, so from now on we'll all cowtow to the PC assholes and keep all of our views bottled up unless they fall in line with what self-hating white liberal intelligencia from Manhattan.
Who says we should cowtow to "PC assholes"? And no one is saying Savage shouldn't have a right to be heard. We are saying he is a fucking maniac, a jingoist, a fascist, and would love nothing more than to see a theocracy emerge in this country.
How Savage can act all high and mighty, looking down on the muslim world for their intolerance and medieval views, yet in the same breath wish death to all homosexuals is fucken hilarious.
Believe it or not, Savage is the Westernized mirror image of a muslim terrorist.
You know who else "told it like it was," by the way? Thomas Paine, Abraham Lincoln, Ronald Reagan, etc., etc....
Include in that list Hitler, Ayatollah Khomeini, and the KKK. Just because someone "speaks their mind" doesn't automatically mean their views are worthy of respect. Michael Savage and Abraham Lincoln both had facial hair - that means they are both on the same intellectual level, right?
Who among those you mentioned advocated the eradication of an entire race/religious group, by the way?
YourAmishDaddy
04-23-2006, 03:23 PM
Exactly.
Diceman Cometh
04-23-2006, 03:42 PM
Why is *my opinion* "frightening" to you?
Because *you* don't feel that way?
Don't try to turn this into a "trying to silence the opposition" argument. You're not a martyr, don't try to be one.
He probably finds your opinion frightening because you agree with a man who advocates the murder of 100 million people and wishes death on homosexuals.
[he] has all kinds of botany degrees
Yea, and I'm sure that if Savage were an ultra-liberal radio host, you wouldn't rip him apart for the fact that his best formal qualifications for discussing politics are fucking botany degrees. :icon_roll
I will reserve my right to believe what I believe.
Nobody said anything that could be even remotely contrued as challenging that right. Stop it already.
I enjoy reading what Savage has to say - along with Ann Coulter and Michelle Malkin - and those who share the same belief system as then.
If you never pick up a book by an intelligent liberal sometime (this does NOT include Al Franken or Arianna Huffington), you will never expand your mind. You might be suprised to learn how one-sided and full of shit some Coulter's or Limbaugh's arguments are, and how they cherry-pick facts. There are plenty of books and bloggers out there that demonstrate just that.
But let me guess, you already know what intelligent liberals think like, because Coulter, Savage, and Limbaugh tell you what they think like. Go ahead. Keep taking their word for it. Keep reading only conservative books. Just please don't confuse yourself with an intellectual - your just a polemicist.
The Lurker
04-23-2006, 06:37 PM
Uhhh... guys.... he's a goofy radio guy. I think people are going WAY too far into this.
7cent
04-23-2006, 06:38 PM
Uhhh... guys.... he's a goofy radio guy. I think people are going WAY too far into this.
the lurker's the best..
NikDaSchwugie
04-23-2006, 07:52 PM
Nobody is saying she deserved to get ***** - we are saying the **** never happened. :action-sm
No physical evidence, her witness changing her story, her witness saying she doesn't have any reason to think a **** happened other than one of the guys being rude, alibies, etc. She might have been *****, but it seems more likely she is full of shit.
Meanwhile the names and faces of the accused get plastered everywhere, even though it seems likely they are innocent. HOW THE FUCK IS THAT FAIR?
Listen to Patrice's story, listen to Kobe's story, tell me that false accusations aren't super common. Patrice got accused of **** because his friend was shit talking, Kobe got accused of **** because he tried a sexual move she didn't pre-approve while they were having CONSENTUAL sex. False convictions of **** are getting overturned all the time because of DNA evidence, nothing happens to the false accusers. The thousands of people getting inprisoned for years, decades of thier lives based on false accusations is fucking shameful.
Either keep both parties identities secret, or reveal the identity of both parties. To have the accused put in the spotlight and have the accuser hidden is textbook bias and guilty-before-proven-innocent.
"Super common"? Seriously? **** is underreported as is; the Justice Department estimates that only 39% of ***** are ever reported. That means 6 out of 10 victims are afraid to say a word.
http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/factsheets/svfacts.htm
Yes, I feel sorry for Patrice and every other person falsely accused of a crime. (Personally, I think Kobe ***** her. You don't. That's ok - neither of us will ever know for sure.) But look at what happened to Kobe's accuser. Did she deserve death threats for saying "he did this after I said no"?
SOMETHING happened that night to the victim. Something happened that made the woman go to the hospital, that caused four of her nails to be broken. If she's lying, she'll go to jail. Fine. What if she's not? What if they are not innocent? Let the courts decide, not us.
I'm frankly sick of everyone pointing out that false **** charges happen all the time. So do real *****, and they happen FAR, FAR, FAR more often than false accusations.
jagsfans
04-23-2006, 11:18 PM
If you never pick up a book by an intelligent liberal sometime (this does NOT include Al Franken or Arianna Huffington), you will never expand your mind. You might be suprised to learn how one-sided and full of shit some Coulter's or Limbaugh's arguments are, and how they cherry-pick facts. There are plenty of books and bloggers out there that demonstrate just that.
But let me guess, you already know what intelligent liberals think like, because Coulter, Savage, and Limbaugh tell you what they think like. Go ahead. Keep taking their word for it. Keep reading only conservative books. Just please don't confuse yourself with an intellectual - your just a polemicist.[/QUOTE]
I have read both "liberal" and "conservative" columns and books. Both of them cherry pick to support their respective agendas. The best thing to do is read different points of view and do your own research. No one should allow someone else to do their thinking for them. Whether their name is Anthony Cumia, Rush Limbaugh or Michael Moore, you should always make sure what they are saying is not bullshit.
"Super common"? Seriously? **** is underreported as is; the Justice Department estimates that only 39% of ***** are ever reported. That means 6 out of 10 victims are afraid to say a word.
http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/factsheets/svfacts.htm
Yes, I feel sorry for Patrice and every other person falsely accused of a crime. (Personally, I think Kobe ***** her. You don't. That's ok - neither of us will ever know for sure.) But look at what happened to Kobe's accuser. Did she deserve death threats for saying "he did this after I said no"?
SOMETHING happened that night to the victim. Something happened that made the woman go to the hospital, that caused four of her nails to be broken. If she's lying, she'll go to jail. Fine. What if she's not? What if they are not innocent? Let the courts decide, not us.
I'm frankly sick of everyone pointing out that false **** charges happen all the time. So do real *****, and they happen FAR, FAR, FAR more often than false accusations.
**** is underreported? Fine. But that's not my problem. Buck up and report it. Is that cold? Yup, sure is. But the law should be as well. We shouldn't be accomodating people just so they don't "feel bad."
Did the chick deserve death threats? No. But how many death threats did Kobe get? I'm betting far more than she did and believe what you want, but I think most people realize that chick was full of shit.
Aside from death threats, I don't have a problem with her getting her share of harassment. Kobe's name was dragged though the mud daily in damn near every paper in the country. A few insulting phone calls goes part way top balancing the scales
On the other issues, yes, something happened, but not by the lacross team. There is photo evidence that she had those injuries before she met up with them. Most likely she got into something she is embarassed about and used the lacross team as a scapegoat.
And no, she won't go to jail, that's the point.
You either reveal both the suspect's and the victim's name, or keep them both secret. You don't destroy the life of the guy, who is often innocent, by letting the media try him.
As for your "many more woman are ***** then women who falsely accuse," Maybe. But every guy I know knows someone who was falsly accused. I, personally, have known three people who were falsely accused, one had to go to court and was thankfully aquitted. None of the women were punished in any way and I don't don't know anyone who was ***** or ***** someone.
Does this mean anything? No. But you will find most guys have the same experience I do with this and in a day and age where men are constantly getting screwed by women in the courts, yeah, we are likely to jump to conclusions. When men are villified in TV commercials and daytime talkshows, let alone the courtroom, we are likely to jump up and down and point when the woman is being the villian.
sclone
04-24-2006, 09:47 AM
Three friends who were falsely accused with ****, huh? Ever think maybe you're running with the wrong crowd?
NikDaSchwugie
04-24-2006, 11:16 AM
**** is underreported? Fine. But that's not my problem. Buck up and report it. Is that cold? Yup, sure is. But the law should be as well. We shouldn't be accomodating people just so they don't "feel bad."
Did the chick deserve death threats? No. But how many death threats did Kobe get? I'm betting far more than she did and believe what you want, but I think most people realize that chick was full of shit.
Kobe got death threats? Show me one story about them. Just one. The victim had to deal with a man offering to murder her for three million dollars.
Aside from death threats, I don't have a problem with her getting her share of harassment. Kobe's name was dragged though the mud daily in damn near every paper in the country. A few insulting phone calls goes part way top balancing the scales
Harassment for filing a **** charge is okay with you?
Her name was dragged through the mud too, it's not like Kobe was the only one in newspapers.
You either reveal both the suspect's and the victim's name, or keep them both secret. You don't destroy the life of the guy, who is often innocent, by letting the media try him.
I have no problem hiding both names. I do have a problem with you insisting the accused is often innocent.
The stats for false **** reporting range from 2-45% in many studies. Even 45% is less than half, meaning more than half of those accused of **** did it.
As for your "many more woman are ***** then women who falsely accuse," Maybe. But every guy I know knows someone who was falsly accused. I, personally, have known three people who were falsely accused, one had to go to court and was thankfully aquitted. None of the women were punished in any way and I don't don't know anyone who was ***** or ***** someone.
Does this mean anything? No. But you will find most guys have the same experience I do with this and in a day and age where men are constantly getting screwed by women in the courts, yeah, we are likely to jump to conclusions. When men are villified in TV commercials and daytime talkshows, let alone the courtroom, we are likely to jump up and down and point when the woman is being the villian.
Like sclone, I wonder who you are hanging out with. None of my guy friends know anyone who was falsely accused of any crime. However, one of them has a sister who was *****. One of my best friends was ***** and her boyfriend murdered.
Am I oversensitive about it? Maybe. I just feel that when high profile cases like this come up, too many people jump on the "false ****" bandwagon and don't give the accuser any credit.
P.S. **** isn't just a crime against women; men can be **** victims too.
FreeTheCricket
04-24-2006, 04:25 PM
P.S. **** isn't just a crime against women; men can be **** victims too.
Yeah, but that's just funny.
Yeah, but that's just funny.
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And there, folks, is the best line of this thread.
Schmed
06-25-2006, 12:09 PM
Actually I believe he mentions both of those. And he does mention being Jewish every day. And if you are going to have a talk show like his, would you rather have Weiner or Savage as your stage last name?
Sure, he is probably overacting. But the guy really is a legitimate nut. And all that stuff which you think he covers up he talks about all the time. He always is talking about his old days in natural medicine, hippy world trips, swimming naked with ginsberg, etc.
He also mentions the day he crossed into the "dark side". He worked for the NYC Dept of Social Services and he was earning about 4-5K a year, sleeping on a mattress on the floor, eating spam, etc., being a typical liberal "do-gooder". One day, his manager had approved a purchase order in excess of 6K to purchase furniture, food, and other "necessities" (luxuries in his case) for a family on welfare. At that point he realized the system was broken, and liberalism was the cause.
The progression from liberalism to conservatism is natural unless you are under-privileged, over-privileged or the Hollywood Elite.
sclone
06-25-2006, 01:37 PM
He also mentions the day he crossed into the "dark side". He worked for the NYC Dept of Social Services and he was earning about 4-5K a year, sleeping on a mattress on the floor, eating spam, etc., being a typical liberal "do-gooder". One day, his manager had approved a purchase order in excess of 6K to purchase furniture, food, and other "necessities" (luxuries in his case) for a family on welfare. At that point he realized the system was broken, and liberalism was the cause.
The progression from liberalism to conservatism is natural unless you are under-privileged, over-privileged or the Hollywood Elite.
I'm neither of those three. So, huh?
TimTA95
06-25-2006, 03:53 PM
Well you see, Sclone, it appears that people on welfare are riding the high horse, enjoying the riches of life and are so darn spoiled with money they dont know what to do with. I wish I was on welfare, don't you?
Deadbent
06-25-2006, 04:22 PM
Nice thread resurrection.
Everytime I see sclones sig pic, I'm happy.
sclone
06-25-2006, 05:06 PM
Nice thread resurrection.
Everytime I see sclones sig pic, I'm happy.
I wish I could take creative credit for it... I jacked it from this guy's web site:
http://jigoku.studio-zoe.com/misc.html
JoeFromDetroit
06-25-2006, 06:39 PM
Well you see, Sclone, it appears that people on welfare are riding the high horse, enjoying the riches of life and are so darn spoiled with money they dont know what to do with. I wish I was on welfare, don't you?
What the New Orleans victims did with their money is the exact reason you can't throw money at anyone, assuming they will use it for good is foolish. I'm all for helping the kids of crack whores and people that have legit problems but being poor doesn't make you a victim.
NoSurviivors
06-25-2006, 06:46 PM
That's frightening. I thought even Michael Savage fans realized how completely full of shit he is. I used to listen to him everyday on the way home from work because he's such a kook.
yeah.. its like feeling sorry for that pig Limbaugh after he said that poor drug addicts should be sent up the river
Schmed
06-27-2006, 09:34 PM
I'm neither of those three. So, huh?
Homosexual ? or No Homo ?
I did enjoy Bob Grant, too bad he retired, that "svacheem".
Schmed
06-27-2006, 09:36 PM
I wish I could take creative credit for it... I jacked it from this guy's web site:
http://jigoku.studio-zoe.com/misc.html
I believe I'm responsible for resurrecting this thread, just trolling one day and stumbled upon it.
jagsfans
06-27-2006, 09:38 PM
yeah.. its like feeling sorry for that pig Limbaugh after he said that poor drug addicts should be sent up the river
I love how all these quotes are attributed to Limbaugh, but no audio clips are ever posted. Before I got XM I listened to Rush a lot and while I did disagree quite a bit, I don't recall hearing some of the venom he's accused of spewing.
Schmed
06-28-2006, 08:30 PM
Well you see, Sclone, it appears that people on welfare are riding the high horse, enjoying the riches of life and are so darn spoiled with money they dont know what to do with. I wish I was on welfare, don't you?
Being on welfare for generations is a good thing, isn't it ? If you are physically and mentally able to work you should not get a fucking dime, that's it. Let's start with graffitti removal, that would be nice. Fucking NYC is in shambles with dirt and grime, and so many people are sitting home collecting their "benefits".
"I'm so sick of the left!" - James Norton.
"I gots to go get my nails done and my her did"
Being on welfare for generations is a good thing, isn't it ? If you are physically and mentally able to work you should not get a fucking dime, that's it. Let's start with graffitti removal, that would be nice. Fucking NYC is in shambles with dirt and grime, and so many people are sitting home collecting their "benefits".
"I'm so sick of the left!" - James Norton.
"I gots to go get my nails done and my her did"
Amen:clap: :clap: :clap:
In my job i see all these "poor", "oppressed" people who have never worked a day in their life, collect SSI/disability, get medical assistance, get cash assistance, and of course get HUD or section 8 housing. They complain of back pain, then 30 minutes later you see them throwing footballs with their friends, working on cars, and of course fucking anything that moves and having 300 kids.
This country is going to shit, and no one sees it. Well, some people do.
Think I am full of shit? Go call an SSI rep and see how hard it is to collect without having ever worked. And believe me when I say all these morons who think it will be around for us at 65 are probably smoking the same crack pipe as the ones collecting SSI now.
acrolite
07-01-2006, 10:45 PM
When a democratically-elected leader of a Muslim nation calls for the eradication of 100 million Westerners, then maybe you can attribute his statement to the entire population of said country. But no such thing has occured, so until then, Savage's problem is with the Islamofacists, which make up a relatively small minority in the Muslim world.
Well, let's see... the friendly folks in "Palestine" recently elected Hamas as their official government. Here are a few select quotes from leaders of the organization:
"Muslims should threaten Western interests and strike them everywhere." (Sheik Yassin)
"Because the Israeli and American enemies are ravaging the earth; they do not believe in anything besides power. The Ummah must adopt the principle of Jihad and fighting the enemies." (Sheik Yassin)
"The Zionists didn't carry out their operation without getting the consent of the terrorist American Administration, and it must take responsibility for this crime. All the Muslims of the world will be honored to join in on the retaliation for this crime." (Hamas statement issued after the assassination of Sheik Ahmed Yassin, Chicago Tribune, March 25, 2004)
"2. The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the rocks and the trees will cry out: "O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him." (Article 7 of Hamas official charter)
"We will kill Jews everywhere. There will be no security for any Jews, those who came from America, Russia or anywhere." (Abdel Aziz Rantissi)"
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