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abudabit
04-21-2006, 10:53 PM
http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/eo/20060421/114567498000.html

Trek" Rediscovered by "Lost" Creator
Friday April 21 8:03 PM ET

Young Kirk. Young Spock. Mr. Lost.

Those are the components Paramount Pictures has assembled to revive its sputtering Star Trek franchise.

A new big-screen movie, apparently featuring the early adventures of Trek forefathers James T. Kirk and Spock, and boasting the handiwork of Lost creator J.J. Abrams, is being primed for a 2008 release.

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The studio wouldn't confirm the plot points, but did say Friday that the 39-year-old Abrams will produce, direct and cowrite the untitled project. His collaborators will be familiar names, to Abrams: Producers Damon Lindelof and Bryan Burk, both from Lost; and writers Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci, both from Mission: Impossible III, the upcoming Tom Cruise sequel that Abrams helmed.

There was no word on a cast. William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy, both 75, played Kirk and Spock, respectively, on the original 1966-69 Trek TV series and in several Trek movies.

The Abrams hire marks not only a rebirth, but a departure for Trek, maligned in a 2003 lawsuit as a franchise in "decay."

The new movie, the 11th in the series, apparently will be the first in some 15 years not to involve producer Rick Berman, who also oversaw every Trek series from Next Generation on. (Trek creator Gene Roddenberry died in 1991.) It'll also apparently be the first in more than 10 years not to star the Next Generation cast.

The most recent Trek movie was the 2002 box-office dud Star Trek: Nemesis. The most recent Trek series was the low-rated 2001-05 Enterprise, the first attempt to go back to the future with characters who predated Kirk and Spock.

From startrek.com to aintitcool.com, message-board reaction to word of the new movie was positive, if the poster was a fan of Abrams, and negative, if the poster wasn't a fan of prequels.

In its article Friday that broke the story, Variety didn't use the "P" word, but the trade paper made the Abrams movie sound very much like one, noting it'll show Kirk and Spock's "first meeting at Starfleet Academy and [their] first outer space mission."

"Did they learn nothing from Enterprise?," one distressed ainticool.com poster wrote Friday. "They had to redo the technology and changed established TREK lore to make it even marginally interesting, and ended up infuriating fans everywhere. Now they're going to screw around with the histories of Trek's two most important icons? STOP IT!"

Maintaining calm is author Win Scott Eckert, who has been collecting, compiling and otherwise straightening out Starfleet chronology since he was a boy back in the 1970s, and has the 184-page Star Trek Annotated Timeline to show for the effort. He, for one, is looking forward to the new movie, and isn't worried it'll wreak havoc with Kirk and Spock as fans know them.

"There is really very little that is Trek "canon" [meaning, info gleaned from the TV shows and movies] about these characters' early careers," Eckert said in an email interview Friday. "So, I can't see any reason why this prequel would not fit into canonical Trek continuity."

Besides, Eckert said, minor timeline conflicts he can handle--"my task will be to come up with reconciling explanations. All in fun, of course."

For those keeping score at home, or scrolling through Eckert's chronology, the new movie should take place sometime between the early 2230s, when Spock and Kirk are born, and 2262, when the two become bridge mates aboard the U.S.S. Enterprise (and when the stories of the original Trek series begin).

Prequels have been the rage in recent years for iconic pop-culture properties. Superman, Batman and Darth Vader are among those to have been youth-in-ized, in the upcoming Superman Returns, Batman Begins, and Star Wars: Episodes I-III, respectively.

A Star Trek prequel involving Kirk and Spock is not a new idea, and almost came close to getting made about two years ago, veteran Star Trek movie producer Harve Bennett told TrekNation.com in February.

"Some of the steam went out of it when my dear DeForest Kelley died," Bennett said of the actor who played Dr. McCoy. "He was going to be in it with Bill [Shatner] and Leonard, those were the only two regulars, and they were involved in a flashback. That's how we incorporated the three main characters into the prequel: it was a memory."

Perhaps the most remarkable thing about the latest Star Trek prequel project is that it flew under the fan radar. About the only news tangentially linking Abrams to Trek was a December Los Angeles Times report that said Paramount Pictures chairman Brad Grey desperately wanted the producer/writer on the studio lot.

Mission: Impossible III, opening May 5, is Abrams' first feature film as director. As a TV titan, he's created Felicity and Alias, in addition to Lost.

Abrams' screenplay credits include Armaggedon, raising the possibility of animal crackers joining the Trek canon.

I don't know how to feel about this. Nemesis was actually a cool movie even though it bombed.

They really fucked up with the series after TNG. Each series felt less and less like TNG. TNG was great because it mixed the weird and randomness of the first series with a more straight laced attitude. And enough fucking time travel bullshit. Each series did more and more time travel shit. I'm sure I'm not the only person who fucking hates time travel in fiction.

spyderman
04-21-2006, 11:04 PM
WHY GOD WHY?????

Why can't star trek just fucking die off with the little dignity that it has left?

Skeet Slambone
04-21-2006, 11:10 PM
I love trek. Absolutely LOVE IT.

I also think it can have life in it. But this??? This is fucking garbage. There is no easy way to say it.

Fr. Dougal
04-21-2006, 11:11 PM
I think they need to go back to the big-name characters in Trek lore to get fans back on board... before they start coming up with fresh characters/ideas.

But the best thing about this is Abrams. He's a friggin' genius. Hopefully this will turn out great.

crescentwrench
04-21-2006, 11:11 PM
No more prequels.

How about a DS9 movie? That would be cool. Especially if they'd ever grow balls and make it R rated.

Coffee Diva
04-21-2006, 11:12 PM
I'll say it: JJ Abrams is an overrated hack.

And the story sounds like utter trash.

Coffee Diva
04-21-2006, 11:14 PM
How about a DS9 movie? That would be cool. Especially if they'd ever grow balls and make it R rated.

100% agreement. Sisko blowing up shit and lots of naked Ferengi sluts.

Skeet Slambone
04-21-2006, 11:16 PM
I would like to see one more movie to close the book on the TNG/DS9/Voyager era. It would need to be a blow out huge story that has never been done before. Hopefully that would be enough to push forward to a new, fresh TV show.

roche
04-21-2006, 11:28 PM
Rick Berman is not involved so I have hope.

abudabit
04-22-2006, 12:38 AM
I think I said this earlier, but how about a buddy cop star trek series? Fusion.

You're off the case, Kalesh!

Hudson
04-22-2006, 02:03 AM
Personally I would like to see a storyline that bridges the gap between the Pilot... (Captain Pike) Storyline and the entrance of Kirk. (I don't remember that being addressed in the original shows)

BIV
04-22-2006, 03:07 AM
I still wish they had done a Voyager movie. To my taste, that was the best series. We still havn't seen a post-voyager star trek, and I would love to see what the Federation looks like with all the nifty technology that they brought back with them.

silentbob8201
04-22-2006, 10:50 AM
WHY GOD WHY?????

Why can't star trek just fucking die off with the little dignity that it has left?
Dignity? it lost that with Star Trek 5. and let me g et this straight William Shatner wants to make a movie or tv show about Kirk and Spock in the Academy they say no. but the hack that was going to fuck over Superman by changing everything about his origin and starting over. basically he wrote a What If comic as a fucking movie

Smokezilla
04-22-2006, 11:40 AM
Why not just dig Star Trek a grave and bury the fucking thing already? It had a good run. Just let it fucking go. Why keep dicking-around with the franchise until it's known for being a desperate attempt to grab another dollar.

I was a big Babylon 5 fan. When it ran its 5 years, it was time to let it end before it got to be "re-dick-a-lus". They tried to get greedy and came up with "Crusades". . . that was a gem.:icon_roll

TimPud
04-22-2006, 12:32 PM
I punched out of caring about Star Trek movies around the point where they had a fucking dune buggy chase in the last one. It'd be nice to see a good one again though. I can't remember the last ST movie that was really kick ass...... Final Contact maybe?

silentbob8201
04-22-2006, 12:44 PM
First Contact. but yeah that was a Star Trek film for the quasi fan non fan types acceptible to all audiences

abudabit
04-22-2006, 01:25 PM
I liked the first TNG movie, the next two kind of stunk. But fuck, who cares about the movies? It's the series which really went down hill, the movies just became run of the mill actions. Every third fucking episode about time travel, some new borg rip off trying to relive their success in TNG, awful lighting, etc. etc. They need to get back to random science fiction episodes and stop trying to make these epic story plots which just sputter. The Dominion ruined the franchise. Same thing happened with the X-Files. Never heard from anyone who liked the long indepth conspiracy more than they liked the random monster every week.

Turfmower
04-22-2006, 02:38 PM
As long as they are blowing shit up. I hated Diplomatic Star trek with Captain Stubing ensign John boy. They should have done some thing with the Technology Janeway got form the future to rescue Voyager and wiped out some Borg ass.

silentbob8201
04-22-2006, 07:16 PM
ok i'll say it fuck Star Trek long live Firefly

Jerry1
04-22-2006, 08:37 PM
I luv trek and all..but c'mon! No more prequels!! Hasn't "Enterprise" taught them anything?
Move forward with the story. How about a new ship and crew? They can throw in cameoes and appearances from TNG, DS9 and Voyager. Maybe base it off the Star Trek:New Frontier book series? That was a kinda mix of TNG and DS9.
Just my opinion.....

Beeman99
04-23-2006, 02:25 AM
I love Trek but this movie sounds like it's going to be worse than a tranny with aids. I personally think they should do either a DS9 movie (what the fuck happened to Sisko going to the prophets world) or just one big TNG, DS9, and Voyager movie post Voyager coming home. Some of my favorite Trek was the DS9 seasons 4-7 when they were at war with the Dominion, Defiant blowing up shit=more gooder. And unlike most, I liked Enterprise, Jolene Blalock is hot and that little slant eye bitch was kinda hot as well.

Skeet Slambone
04-23-2006, 01:26 PM
I liked Enterprise too. There seems to be a great divide between Trek fans. There is a very strong contingent that thinks every trek outing should be a big gay ass grabbing anti god tree hugging expose on modern day liberalism. The believe an episode is a failure if a phaser is fired for any reason other than heating rocks.

Then there is the other side that wants to see cowboys in outer space blowing shit up. The appeal is that Star Trek is built off of OUR actual history. That's what makes it great for a lot of people.

abudabit
04-23-2006, 02:02 PM
I fucking hate the pussiness of the federation, and how everything works out for them even though they keep letting the bad guys go. Not only do they not kill thier enemies, they don't even take them captive. Worse, they usually let them go off in thier fucking warship. At least destroy or steal thier ship and set them off in a fucking cargo ship, if nothing else.

Nothing makes you want to puke more than fictional story about some ultra bad guy trying to massacre a bunch of people, he gets defeated, and the good guys let him go. Then everything is fucking ok. Like the guy isn't going to go off and hatch another plan.

Enterprise was good except for the fact that they were battling spandex wearing time travelers.

patbattlefield
04-23-2006, 02:53 PM
the guy who created LOST? so this means at the end of the movie there will be a buch of plots that go nowhere and only leave you hanging for the next movie, in which they still still explain nothing. great...