FCC concerns with CBS move...

[Mud Duck]

First off let me say I have XM, so this really wont affect me (hopefully, if I understand everything correctly).

I, like most of us, am very excited about us having MORE O&A... But as The Wolf has said, "lets not go and suck each other's dicks quite yet"...

The hours from 6-9am are going to be reserved for the "cleaner material", that much is known... But the question is ultimately, what is the FCC going to consider "clean"... Can we expect to not hear a **** joke? How about a racist suggestion? Will CBS dump entire conversations if the subject matter gets "too suggestive"? From what I've heard of Howie's dealings with the FCC before his move to Satellite, they were dumping entire segments for pure content. And that was without cursing...

I bring this up (as Im sure many have thought of this) to attempt to get an idea what everyone else is thinking. Or if possible, to hopefully shed a light on this concern...

[elbodude]

6-9 will be a "clean" show with the boys censoring themselves, by using F and S inseatd of Fuck and Shit. The station will only dump out if someone "slips up", to quote Ant. So, it won't be a "regular" XM show on FM with beeps. It will be an FM show with someones finner on the button.

[thesz]

It doesn't really matter, if CBS dumps out those of us with XM will still he the goodness.

[blinkdmb]

What happens during the famous terestrial radio's 20 Min comercial breaks?

[Moose Knuckles]

I hate to say it, but I was listening to the replay and I caught the part where they mentioned commercials. The said XM and CBS were exclusive, and XM would run stuff during the breaks. In my eyes this sucks. I was more than willing to see this through cause I trust the bbboy's, but this just plain sucks.

I hate to say it, but they do look like hypocrites. what happenned to making fun of 20 minutes of commercials an hour?

[Hoagie]

I hate to say it, but they do look like hypocrites. what happenned to making fun of 20 minutes of commercials an hour?Ummm...the commercials still suck. That's why they are staying on XM and not going strictly back to regular radio. You see the goal is to reach as many people as possible while doing the best show possible. This move allows them to reach as many as possible and they still have several hours a day on strictly XM which allows them to cover what they can on regualr radio and still cover the other stuff on XM. As long as you got XM, you are covered.

[Lacrossedragon]

Really? I doubt it really. I think we'll hear the fucks and shits, just not he fucked her in the shitter.

[BIV]

"Really? I doubt it really. I think we'll hear the fucks and shits, just not he fucked her in the shitter."
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I doubt that very much. And BTW guys, F and S are no longer safe. The FCC says you can't even imply curse words anymore.

[BIV]

I'll repeat this from another thread:

Here is my concern. I work in radio, I know the new FCC rules.

Imagine this:

A 'lil Jimmy rant on a caller that involves no cursing, no initials of curse words, no sexually charged remarks, no references to sexual organs or acts, no obscure references to organs or acts (yellow treats, oral treats, balloon knot), no pedophilia, no beastiality and no references to body secretions including piss and farts.

How the fuck does that work? These are all FCC finable under the new rules.

[Deebomber]

You see they say when CBS goes to commercial XM will run worst of bits. That my friends is a compromise. They are short changing XM listeners by subjecting us to bits instead of live radio. Yeah they might be bits we haven't heard in a long time but it's still not live. Do not think for a second that O&A are going to throw out fuck and shit bombs from 6-9 to satisfy us. They will play by the rules during those hours. It was suppose to be that CBS was going to have to deal with their terms not the other way around. The only way this is going to make believers out of us nay sayers is for on Wed morning the boys come on and start throwing haymakers and bombs and let CBS do their job on the dump. And us XM listeners can hear it in all our glory. But I don't think that's going to happen.

"I know it was you O&A, you broke our hearts, you broke our hearts"

[mendozathejew]

I would have been thrilled if they decided to continue with the show during FM commercials. honestly thats what I expected the "system" they referred to.

regardless Im still confident they wont let me down. they havent done so yet, and Ive listened since waaf

[King of Depew]

Yeah, I'm sorry, but this is fuckin bullshit. Sure, anyone would do the same thing in their position, it's a lot of cash.

But they're compromising the show. There should be no fucking "clean hours", they said fuck off to terestrial radio, and now they're kowtowing to them. Commercial breaks? Compromised programming for us XM subscribers that have fucking PAID and gotten the boys to where they are now? I dont want to hear fucking "F" and "S", I want swearing. Now what, Patrice wont be able to come on and be himself because we have to cater to free FM? This is fucking garbage.

ANYBODY on here that dares come on and pretend this doesnt bother you, you're doing just that, pretending. Anybody that tells me or anyone that has a problem with this to shut up is a fucking ass kisser and a liar, I cant believe we have to put up with this nonsense now.

And WHERE WAS OUR REPLAY today. This is the third or 4th time in a week and some change there's been no show or no replay.

[jimmy'sloneTcel]

The boys are going to be sitting in hours and hours of meetings going over FCC regulations like they used to. They knew how to get around the rules and do the best show possible then, I have faith that they'll figure out a system within the newer climate of radio. I don't think we'll have to worry about the FCC bringing the hammer down on the boys, or them not being able to do an entertaining show on broadcast radio.

[Lacrossedragon]

I got to admit... I'm a little hurt by this. Listening to todays show felt weird and awkward. I found my self flipping over to Ethel alot.

[Cozmik]

Q&A and Jimmy will handle the FCC regs without needing to the dump button much. They are pros and no what they're doing.

The dump button will get a workout from the callers, especially from XM listeners who are used to cursing without restraint during calls.

[PuddingChest]

They look like hypocrites. They didnt want to compromise the show; thats exactly what they did. Of course they have to save face but this doesn't look good. FCC is much more strict than the WNEW days. Good luck bro!
Also, whats up with Opie saying the JV and Elvis show(or whatever its called)
was alright after trashing that very show not too long ago. Hypocrite

[fandango86]

Biv,

This is how it works:

I don't care if you take your xm unit, flush it down the toilet, buy a Sirius, and BEEEEEP your mother!

We hear Fuck. Terrestrial hears a beep. One word out of his most famous line on XM. Most people on terrestrial radio are smart enough to figure it out, and you have to remember - people on terrestrial radio are used to dumps and beeps and people self sensoring themselves. In other words, it will work just fine on both mediums. Those that don't like the boys self-censoring themselves will cancel the service and hear...what, nothing? Maybe some will buy a Sirius and fuck their mother. Fuck 'em. My guess is XM will gain far more subscribers from this deal than it loses.

[Quint]

You guys are amazing. I can't believe how much you need your profanity fix every morning. I've been listening on xm almost since the beginning. I paid my extra two dollars for months, and have heard the show get better and better in the last year and a half. It can be so much better. For anyone who never heard the old show, or doesn't remember, when O&A where syndecated around the country, the show was amazing.
With such an interactive show, the bigger the audience, the better the show. Remember the contests where women would come to the studio and their naked pictures would be posted on the website for us to vote on? Why hasn't that happened here? At xm they have some percentage of 6.5 million listeners nationwide. They used to do better than that in New York.
Anthony has mentioned that the reason they have hade fewer prepared bits and impressions is that they used the commercial breaks to set all that up. Now we get that back.
In short, we gat all the advantages of being on FM AND STILL GET THE NEW SHOW ON XM.

[WOWmagnet]

What a bunch of worrying old women. O&A, and Norton used to "rant" all the time on WNEW and it was pure goodness.

"waaaaaa!...I need to hear 'shit' at least 4 times before 8:30 a.m."

Remember at the beginning of the XM show; douchebag caller would call and say, "Let's go guys, let loose with some curses..." HUH? is it really all about cursing...is it?

[UCFGavin]

the biggest thing that I'm concerned about is continuity for the XM listeners. Personally I am incredibly excited about hearing the WNEW bits, but I'm afraid that the boys are going to be taking a break and ruining something good they had going.

i guess its just one of those situations where you trade something good for something bad and they cancel each other out.

[Biggierob]

what a beeping whiner. "Anyone who has a problem with what I say is a kiss ass or a liar" NO STUPID. Some people are genuinely happy for the boys, accept it.

[joshjrounder]

Is it really that important to hear someone swearing? This is not what makes O&A funny and entertaining. Listening back on the NEW shows, they were a different kind of show. Maybe we will no be able to get a little bit of that and a little bit of XM type shows. If this is the case, i think that is great. It is a nice mix

[mascan42]

What a bunch of worrying old women. O&A, and Norton used to "rant" all the time on WNEW and it was pure goodness.
Let's try and remember, a lot of the stuff they used to do on WNEW isn't allowed on regular radio anymore. So the first 3 hours of the show will be required to be even less edgy than the WNEW days.

This is more proof that the only way to make this work is to do the entire show from XM and just dump out on FM. The boys said they aren't happy about this part of the deal, so hopefully it will change if they feel its compromising the XM show too much.

I'm hopeful that they'll work it all out, but some parts of this deal really have me worried. If it's done right, this will be a great thing for the show. If CBS hamstrings them too much, this could be the beginning of the end.

[zerofischer]

i think i'll save any reaction for when it actually happens instead of just bitching about the possibility of it happening. these hypothetical scenarios and the boys reactions to them on "regular" radio are fucking retarded. they were big on regular radio first for a reason.

[NightStalker3]

Fuck the dumps and commercials I say!

[DHO]

Well Jimmy did 4-5 go jump into a lake references without a lil' conner reference.
That's not a good harbinger.


but,... They did a good job before on terresterial and im sure they can manage again.

[d0uche_n0zzle]

Fuck the FCC. Fuck the FCC. Fuck the FCC. :icon_mrgr

[distortion9]

It's not a question of if they can get around the rules, it's the fact that there ARE rules to get around now.

A couple of days ago, we were getting 4 hours of no holds barred, full tilt O&A goodness, now we get 2. We are paying the same for less of what we had...it's really that simple.

[Mister__Hughes]

...either we see what happens or bitch about it.
I'm not going to bitch about it.
They are doing the CBS show from Hoo Hoo's old studio (with dunking booth), this has GOT to be pissing Stern off past the point that even his therapist can help him.
This gives the b b b bboys the ability to infect the former non- following hoo hoo howie fans to the little doggie company with the virus.
As Opie said "We can talk to his fans, but he can't talk to ours".
This is about revenge, and bringing out the truth about howie, plain and simple.
As to a possible compromise to the integrity of the show, this remains to be seen, there will be some compromises, very few.
If anyone paid attention to yesterday's broadcast, the callers were former fans, and not fancy enough to buy XM recievers. This also amounts to a giant plug on terrestrial radio for XM, these non- fancy people will be moved to get a reciever to hear the "Dirty" show.
I ask everyone to give this a chance, and quit being the "Angry typing guy".
This was, is and always has been a war, ever since Hoo Hoo cried to Mel about O&A talking about him, and that whole scene.
The Pat Battle has reached a new level, and the war has escalated.
...Unfortunately for Hoo Hoo, his latest chess move could have just cost him the game.
Boo hoo, Hoo Hoo OMMMMMMM.
Game Over, Howie, you lose, the Boys always win in the end.

[d0uche_n0zzle]

Not true. We'll be getting the unclean version on XM.

[kvuo]

the problem is, they are not going to be UNCLEAN. Who cares if we get an uncensored feed on XM, there wont be much if anything to censor. They will be self-censoring.

Which doesn't really bother me. 20 minute commercial breaks does, however.

[HummerTuesdays]

My FCC concern is that some "decent programming" group is going to start petitioning the FCC asking for O&A to be fined. I'll be ready with my well-thought-out letter explaining to the FCC that I was not offended, I find the programming decent, and to stop catering to a few housefraus with too much time on their hands. :)

[bundle of joy]

Content. As many of you have said, I don't want them the change the content of the show. Go where it takes them. I guess we will just have to see what happens.

[kloraferm]

What a bunch of worrying old women. O&A, and Norton used to "rant" all the time on WNEW and it was pure goodness.

"waaaaaa!...I need to hear 'shit' at least 4 times before 8:30 a.m."

Remember at the beginning of the XM show; douchebag caller would call and say, "Let's go guys, let loose with some curses..." HUH? is it really all about cursing...is it?
Thank you

[Chief79]

I loved the WNEW show, so i am going to trust that O&A know what they are doing. I don't see why any one would complain about a show that you have not heard yet. Give it a couple of weeks before you make up your mind. The show sucked the first month they were on XM. It took awhile for them to get into a groove. This will probably be the same way. Just give it a shot before you bash it. (Angry Typing Guy) THIS MEANS THAT PATRICE O'NEIL WILL ONLY BE ABLE TO CALL 200 PEOPLE ...... INSTEAD OF 500 PEOPLE.

[getmeajury]

The bottom line for XM listeners is paying the same for less uncensored content. Is a half-assed hour, when the guys are ready for the door worth it? Probably not.
Having listened to both pre-XM and XM OandA, there is no comparison. Call me crazy, I enjoy being treated as an adult and hearing uncensored content.
Yes I like the cursing, yes I like the **** jokes, etc etc.
And sorry, the content will most definately be changed, it has to.
Say good bye to Patrice, say good bye to Jimmy rants.
Jimmy minus flith equals snarky ass.
I honestly hope they can pull it off, my gut tells me probably not.
Que "wah-wah-waah" sound.
Here is a prediction...
-post free fm XM 2 hour slowly dimishes, very soon turns to 1 hour, then peters out.
-XM audience lessens significantly. Not enough to justifiy expense of two studios.
-ratings on free fm decent
-show becomes 100% free fm, simulcast on XM similar to most talk shows on XM.
-back to where we were couple years back at wnew, except FCC more draconian, equaling water down show. uck.

Who knows maybe they can pull it off, will see

[badcellphoneguy]

Enjoy listening to the bleeps and dumps. XM is the way to go! Anything to drive Howie nuts is always much gooder.

[badcellphoneguy]

The bottom line for XM listeners is paying the same for less uncensored content. Is a half-assed hour, when the guys are ready for the door worth it? Probably not.
Having listened to both pre-XM and XM OandA, there is no comparison. Call me crazy, I enjoy being treated as an adult and hearing uncensored content.
Yes I like the cursing, yes I like the **** jokes, etc etc.
And sorry, the content will most definately be changed, it has to.
Say good bye to Patrice, say good bye to Jimmy rants.
Jimmy minus flith equals snarky ass.
I honestly hope they can pull it off, my gut tells me probably not.
Que "wah-wah-waah" sound.
Here is a prediction...
-post free fm XM 2 hour slowly dimishes, very soon turns to 1 hour, then peters out.
-XM audience lessens significantly. Not enough to justifiy expense of two studios.
-ratings on free fm decent
-show becomes 100% free fm, simulcast on XM similar to most talk shows on XM.
-back to where we were couple years back at wnew, except FCC more draconian, equaling water down show. uck.

Who knows maybe they can pull it off, will see



Personally I think Jimmy is better when he's toned down. But his rants are phenominal.

[Absolutely]

The bottom line for XM listeners is paying the same for less uncensored content. Is a half-assed hour, when the guys are ready for the door worth it? Probably not.
Having listened to both pre-XM and XM OandA, there is no comparison. Call me crazy, I enjoy being treated as an adult and hearing uncensored content.
Yes I like the cursing, yes I like the **** jokes, etc etc.
And sorry, the content will most definately be changed, it has to.
Say good bye to Patrice, say good bye to Jimmy rants.
Jimmy minus flith equals snarky ass.
I honestly hope they can pull it off, my gut tells me probably not.
Que "wah-wah-waah" sound.
Here is a prediction...
-post free fm XM 2 hour slowly dimishes, very soon turns to 1 hour, then peters out.
-XM audience lessens significantly. Not enough to justifiy expense of two studios.
-ratings on free fm decent
-show becomes 100% free fm, simulcast on XM similar to most talk shows on XM.
-back to where we were couple years back at wnew, except FCC more draconian, equaling water down show. uck.

Who knows maybe they can pull it off, will see

My prediction/concern is that they become self censored on Xm from 9-12. Don't you think it'll be hard everyday to go from Fcc regulated speech and word to no Fcc, back to Fcc the next morning.
I think itll be too hard to differentiate and the Xm hours and will just pick one way to do the show both places.

[Harvey_Birdman]

I'll back getmeajury's predictions.

And what makes anyone think the terrestial radio (I refuse to call it free fm, because commercials are a waste of time, time = money, therefore terrestial radio costs money) fans will come over to XM? Any of those jackasses who could afford it already jumped ship to go with Hoo-hoo because he had a whole year of free Sirius commercials to convince them.

I'm glad O&A are getting paid and that they'll enjoy more popularity, but I'm not happy it will likely be at the expense of good radio.

And yes, cursing is important to me. It's an indication of someone speaking a real language and not putting on a phony radio personality. I don't say "eff" or "ess" in real life, and anybody who does should be given a hot carl.

I'm going to miss the C word and **** jokes.

[Carter]

my only problem is the 20 minute commercial breaks

[Mister__Hughes]

The whole problem I see with the "Free FM" and Xm shows is they
create a Conglomerated, Mulatta, MONGREL of a show!!!, BOTH types will be destroyed, and I refuse to yield an inch to losing either one, we ought to keep them separate and equal.
...someone got crickets?

[getmeajury]

The whole problem I see with the "Free FM" and Xm shows is they
create a Conglomerated, Mulatta, MONGREL of a show!!!, BOTH types will be destroyed, and I refuse to yield an inch to losing either one, we ought to keep them separate and equal.
...someone got crickets?

:clap:

Say bye to that soundclip on free fm

[Absolutely]

:clap:

Say bye to that soundclip on free fm

What's wrong with that clip? It's offensive, but nothing "Wrong" right...
I haven't listened to Fm in so long I've forgot whats allowed.

[Harvey_Birdman]

I would not at all be surprised if the FCC deems "mulatto" to be an offensive word.

[Absolutely]

I dont know, last time i listened to Stern he had the KKK guy on saying .......
Same thing, I didn't think you could eliminate race words

apperently Ni**er is censored here

[King of Depew]

The bottom line for XM listeners is paying the same for less uncensored content. Is a half-assed hour, when the guys are ready for the door worth it? Probably not.
Having listened to both pre-XM and XM OandA, there is no comparison. Call me crazy, I enjoy being treated as an adult and hearing uncensored content.
Yes I like the cursing, yes I like the **** jokes, etc etc.
And sorry, the content will most definately be changed, it has to.
Say good bye to Patrice, say good bye to Jimmy rants.
Jimmy minus flith equals snarky ass.
I honestly hope they can pull it off, my gut tells me probably not.
Que "wah-wah-waah" sound.
Here is a prediction...
-post free fm XM 2 hour slowly dimishes, very soon turns to 1 hour, then peters out.
-XM audience lessens significantly. Not enough to justifiy expense of two studios.
-ratings on free fm decent
-show becomes 100% free fm, simulcast on XM similar to most talk shows on XM.
-back to where we were couple years back at wnew, except FCC more draconian, equaling water down show. uck.

Who knows maybe they can pull it off, will see


Exactly. It's not just about "hearing swear words", like a couple of you douche bags posted in response to what I said. Its about COMPROMISING THE SHOW. There's no way in fuckin HELL they're going to have the freedom to talk about even half the the shit they normally would, esp when Patrice is on there. Now I'm paying, and I have to fucking capitulate to free FM listeners?

It doesnt matter to most of the people on here, Opie and Anthony could come set your house on fire and you'd still defend any thing they did and tell everyone to shut up. No one else has the foresight to see they're kind of fucking us in the ass.

AND CAN WE PLLLLLEEEAASE stop with the fucking "Uhhh, Flush you XM, Fuck your mother" jokes? Is that the response to every single person that has a problem with the new set up? That's really thoughtful, and also it's Jimmy's line, it's funny when HE says it on the air, not when YOU say it.

[connersbuddy]

The fact is, the show _will_ be different due to the FCC regulations. The boys said as much on Monday's broadcast. The can't do "Guess what's in my pants" on terrestrial radio. Not one of my favorite bits, but the wiffleball bat challenge has had some great moments.

I think both camps on here have it a little bit wrong. The show WILL be watered down, but it WILL still be funny.

[WOWmagnet]

BuySirius/flush/fuck

Buh Bye!

[getmeajury]

I think both camps on here have it a little bit wrong. The show WILL be watered down, but it WILL still be funny.
That much is a given.
The question is still will it be as funny as it would be not watered down.

[Harvey_Birdman]

BuySirius/flush/fuck


I don't think this is a legitimate response because they can't even say this on CBS.

I think it should be the edited for broadcast version:

Buy subscription radio, visit the little boy's room, and make whoopee with a maternal figure.

Which is funnier?

(Although admittedly, the "little boy's room" thing has an interesting connotation to it, that is entirely secondary and if there was a thought that it meant what Li'l Jimmy thinks it means it would be dumped).

[getmeajury]

Buy subscription radio, visit the little boy's room, and make whoopee with a maternal figure.

Which is funnier?


:clap:

I think "whoopee" would get censored when used in context with "maternal figure"

[Harvey_Birdman]

How about - "have inappropriate relations with"

[getmeajury]

How about - "have inappropriate relations with"

Hmm, I dont know...
"relations" has such a suggestive lean

:icon_mrgr

[AtomicAgeZombie]

Maybe I'm crazy... but do all the mentions of "beeps" mean that XM listeners will still get all the vulgar goodness and CBS will get mostly beeps and some dumps? They may have figured out how to get around the whole "F" & "C" thing by just saying it and covering it with a beep. Eh... we'll find out soon enough.

[Harvey_Birdman]

The XM feed should be whatever is said in studio. However, if the boys self-censor themselves then both CBS and XM listeners will hear "eff" and "cee" instead of the real, honest language of manly man.

[getmeajury]

..he real, honest language of manly man.

Brillant!! lol :clap: :clap: :clap:

[freak8]

why did ONA sign a deal before they
met with the lawyers
about what they cant say..

im sure after that meeting
they'll figure out why howard left regular radio...

[Sinn Fein]

The "N" word is censored here because it casues wackbag to be filtered from corporate servers, which means less people can read the board from work.

[penguinsfan1]

why did ONA sign a deal before they
met with the lawyers
about what they cant say..

im sure after that meeting
they'll figure out why howard left regular radio...

I swear to God, I was wondering that exact same thing. Why would they (or anyone else) sign a deal without knowing EXACTLY what they were getting into? (Especially given their past ... the Catholic League may wish them luck, but you just know the FCC will have a major hard on for the boys and be watching them with a fine-tooth comb.)

[unknown soldier]

Don't u guys see what has happend here? They have been down playing the show for a while. that way when they go on free fm tomorrow it will seem like the show has not changed much exept the cussing. What ever happend to the sexiest state and thing like porn chics coming in and screwing each other?
They said that they had been trying to work on this deal for a while. I bet that cbs told them we will listen to the show and if u guys can do a show and keep the fan base we will hire u. For those that been listening to xm since the beginning think how much they have changed since then.

[Absolutely]

The "N" word is censored here because it casues wackbag to be filtered from corporate servers, which means less people can read the board from work.

Interesting, Not that I need to be saying it.
I didn't really know corporate servers did that.

[getmeajury]

Interesting, Not that I need to be saying it.
I didn't really know corporate servers did that.

Yup they sure do. Some firewalls ban by url, others have software that scan pages upon request for keywords, n word and others. There is actually a subscription service for a list of "questionable" words and phrases.

[DonTheTrucker]

Am I the only one that thinks the XM show is going to go just crazy because the bbboys will be able to do what they really want to do there? They can get the boring stuff out of the way, and get to the real business at hand on XM.

[DELORES HAZE]

First off let me say I have XM, so this really wont affect me (hopefully, if I understand everything correctly).

I, like most of us, am very excited about us having MORE O&A... But as The Wolf has said, "lets not go and suck each other's dicks quite yet"...

The hours from 6-9am are going to be reserved for the "cleaner material", that much is known... But the question is ultimately, what is the FCC going to consider "clean"... Can we expect to not hear a **** joke? How about a racist suggestion? Will CBS dump entire conversations if the subject matter gets "too suggestive"? From what I've heard of Howie's dealings with the FCC before his move to Satellite, they were dumping entire segments for pure content. And that was without cursing...

I bring this up (as Im sure many have thought of this) to attempt to get an idea what everyone else is thinking. Or if possible, to hopefully shed a light on this concern...

It appears I'm always in the minority. I've been a big fan of O&A for a long time, but I resent the fact I'm considered a traitor if I question the deal or their motives. To begin with, I'm an XM subscriber, and I used to listen to O&A when they were syndicated to WJFK in DC. I have a large CD collection, so when I bought my new Buick in February of 2005 I kept the satellite radio for the sole purpose of getting to know the boys again. As it stands now I'm going to get a 2 hour uncensored show instead of the 4 hour one I originally signed for. And once the Free Xm commercial time is factored in, and I have to listen to promos and tired old WNEW bits, I lose more than that. Am I supposed to believe they are going to do the 6-9 show and then walk to the XM studio and just pick up to start the same old raunchy XM show? How are they are going to end their show exactly at 9 (and CBS will make them) then hustle over to XM..., and pick up right away? I can't see the XM show picking up until 9:15 at the earliest (if we are lucky). Then the show is supposed to run until 11.. and gosh.. probably longer.. unitl 12?Again.. in your dreams. Anthony will be bolting at 11.. its the nature of the beast. I was listening today, and every XM caller I heard who had the audacity to question why they would be paying the same price for less than half of the uncensored time, were laughed at. They said XM. subscribers.. we already have your money.. and laughed. Its supposed to be a joke right? But it's veiled contempt for the XM people. XM was a stepping stone, and now they've pulled off the grand plan. A year from now they will be exclusively on free FM pumping out a lackluster FCC muzzled (compared to the XM and old NEW shows) but popular show for 3 hours a day. They will become the new Hoo Hoo's.. making Hoo Hoo money, and I'll still be listening because there won't be anything better on. Oh well, at least I'll be saving my subscription fee every month.

[TeenBungle]

...either we see what happens or bitch about it.
I'm not going to bitch about it.
They are doing the CBS show from Hoo Hoo's old studio (with dunking booth), this has GOT to be pissing Stern off past the point that even his therapist can help him.
This gives the b b b bboys the ability to infect the former non- following hoo hoo howie fans to the little doggie company with the virus.
As Opie said "We can talk to his fans, but he can't talk to ours".
This is about revenge, and bringing out the truth about howie, plain and simple.
As to a possible compromise to the integrity of the show, this remains to be seen, there will be some compromises, very few.
If anyone paid attention to yesterday's broadcast, the callers were former fans, and not fancy enough to buy XM recievers. This also amounts to a giant plug on terrestrial radio for XM, these non- fancy people will be moved to get a reciever to hear the "Dirty" show.
I ask everyone to give this a chance, and quit being the "Angry typing guy".
This was, is and always has been a war, ever since Hoo Hoo cried to Mel about O&A talking about him, and that whole scene.
The Pat Battle has reached a new level, and the war has escalated.
...Unfortunately for Hoo Hoo, his latest chess move could have just cost him the game.
Boo hoo, Hoo Hoo OMMMMMMM.
Game Over, Howie, you lose, the Boys always win in the end.


listen i dont like howard either but how much more of this bashing howie shit are we gonna swallow? for christ sakes he's a beating man. yet they continue to do things like this which will compromise the show just so they wont feel so insecure about howie. they are delusional if they think their name will ever be as big as howies. and ultimatley howie knows this and this whole thing is pointless.

[krunk]

is this where we speculate on what they can do on CBS that will get them fired from CBS...but it won't get them fired from XM?

[jlfrench]

I'm not worried about the profanity, half the time i wouldn't even notice if it wasn't there, I don't want to hear them skipping around current topics for fear of regulations that they have now subjected themselves to. I also don't want to hear the inevitable complaints by them about the rules that they willingly walked into. My prediction is that the honeymoon and compliments for/by the radio chick and shitdick and jazzy or whatever they're called will be over much sooner than later.

[cosmic cow]

Am I the only one that thinks the XM show is going to go just crazy because the bbboys will be able to do what they really want to do there? They can get the boring stuff out of the way, and get to the real business at hand on XM.


But I'm at work during this time...when is the replay?? I'll probably be home by then and its much gooder listening while driving. Does anyone know the replay schedule?? Did anyone think this out before hand??

Sign on the dotted line...here ..here.. and here...perfect!!

[jlfrench]

not only that, but with the additional commercial time, we will actually be listening for a longer period to LESS show....

This would all be alot easier to swallow without the free fm bashing for 18 months coupled with jokes about commercials, the fcc and having a boss.... Can't help but think about the hypocritical audio bit we love to listen to when it doesn't involve our show.

[cosmic cow]

why did ONA sign a deal before they
met with the lawyers
about what they cant say..

im sure after that meeting
they'll figure out why howard left regular radio...

What about Opie saying I hope Elo and XM can come up with some interesting stuff to play during the CBS breaks? Why not figure this shit out before signing the deal??

[jlfrench]

What about Opie saying I hope Elo and XM can come up with some interesting stuff to play during the CBS breaks? Why not figure this shit out before signing the deal??


Agreed, they say this all came together quickly, but they've been hinting at it for fucking months.

[PuddingChest]

Its not about hearing curse words. My complaint is with them compromising content. The show will not be as edgy and if you cant see that your in denial. Oh well, at least i didn't buy the Inno yet, wont be needing it now. Its a sad day for XM202 fans

[jlfrench]

Its not about hearing curse words. My complaint is with them compromising content. The show will not be as edgy and if you cant see that your in denial. Oh well, at least i didn't buy the Inno yet, wont be needing it now. Its a sad day for XM202 fans

too true, my inno savings have officially been re-allocated.... good point.

[crazyc0w77]

You see they say when CBS goes to commercial XM will run worst of bits. That my friends is a compromise. They are short changing XM listeners by subjecting us to bits instead of live radio. Yeah they might be bits we haven't heard in a long time but it's still not live. Do not think for a second that O&A are going to throw out fuck and shit bombs from 6-9 to satisfy us. They will play by the rules during those hours. It was suppose to be that CBS was going to have to deal with their terms not the other way around. The only way this is going to make believers out of us nay sayers is for on Wed morning the boys come on and start throwing haymakers and bombs and let CBS do their job on the dump. And us XM listeners can hear it in all our glory. But I don't think that's going to happen.

"I know it was you O&A, you broke our hearts, you broke our hearts"


I agree completely! First they tell us how much freedom XM has over broadcast radio. They lure us in saying how much Free radio blows. What happend to all those rants they had about the Free radio commercials? O&A are great at "Spin". Hasn't anyone noticed that this deal favors CBS and NOT the XM SUBSCRIBERS! We get to pay for 2 hours of radio while the rest get 3 hours for free! We are still subjected to 20 mins of commercials. Reminds me of the "Please deposit 50 cents to listen to the rest of the broadcast" they laughed and laughed at!
They did it for the money....not to better the show...They are fancy people and need to keep up their fancy lifestyle.

[crazyc0w77]

Yeah, I'm sorry, but this is fuckin bullshit. Sure, anyone would do the same thing in their position, it's a lot of cash.

But they're compromising the show. There should be no fucking "clean hours", they said fuck off to terestrial radio, and now they're kowtowing to them. Commercial breaks? Compromised programming for us XM subscribers that have fucking PAID and gotten the boys to where they are now? I dont want to hear fucking "F" and "S", I want swearing. Now what, Patrice wont be able to come on and be himself because we have to cater to free FM? This is fucking garbage.

ANYBODY on here that dares come on and pretend this doesnt bother you, you're doing just that, pretending. Anybody that tells me or anyone that has a problem with this to shut up is a fucking ass kisser and a liar, I cant believe we have to put up with this nonsense now.

And WHERE WAS OUR REPLAY today. This is the third or 4th time in a week and some change there's been no show or no replay.

AMEN Brother!

I got into an argument with the people on Paltalk this morning because I ask one simple question "Why are they being hypocrits" OOOF, thats all the room needed to hear before I was called a Sten fan...Not a true fan, blah blah blah...Not a true fan? I followed them from the WNEW days...thought they were so brilliant that I PAID to have XM installed in my car months before they started to make sure nothing was wron with the radio. I Paid into the Paltalk hype...Now the show is going backwards....Oh well...

[crazyc0w77]

They look like hypocrites. They didnt want to compromise the show; thats exactly what they did. Of course they have to save face but this doesn't look good. FCC is much more strict than the WNEW days. Good luck bro!
Also, whats up with Opie saying the JV and Elvis show(or whatever its called)
was alright after trashing that very show not too long ago. Hypocrite

It's the same way Norton didnt want to watch Sapranos until he got the HBO deal. The best part of the bbboys were how they were straight shooters. They are at the beggining stages of cathing the "Hoo-Hoo-Howie" syndrom!
I wonder how long it will take them to get Cricket or another chick to play the "hole".

[crazyc0w77]

But I'm at work during this time...when is the replay?? I'll probably be home by then and its much gooder listening while driving. Does anyone know the replay schedule?? Did anyone think this out before hand??

Sign on the dotted line...here ..here.. and here...perfect!!

Very good point...the time they will be in XM Mode, most people will be in work where you can't listen to that type of show.
I cant wait to see how many times they replay the same bits like they did in the begining of the XM run....

[CoonInaBasket]

It seems to me that the boys are catering to the FM side of the show too much already. "Worst of" bits during the 20 minute commercials?-Not fucking good enough. What they should do on the XM side is just leave the mikes on and let us hear whatever is going on in the background. If there is nothing then there is nothing and we can flip to ethel. But there very well might be cool shit that happens during the breaks that we XMers might want to hear.

For me the dumps and bleeps are secondary to the damn commercials. However, FM should recognize that the boys are (or were) doing a satellite show and that they would have to make compromises. How this would work I dont know... perhaps they could start the show an hour earlier on XM which would give them time to bleep for FM.

And just to make sure, is the XM side getting the delay feed or live feed of the show? I will be royally pissed off if I found out that when a curse slips out of someone I have to hear the same dumped feed as the rifraff.

I sure hope the XM loyalists bombard the phones with curses and make the dump button operator work for his pay.

[BitWrecker]

Holy shit, can they at least show up for day 1????
"they have catered to FM already", oh my god, it is called an introduction and a potetntial plan for what to do when CBS goes to commercial, if the fans are unhappy (as per past ideas) they will change.
Cant wait to hear people complain tomorrow that they walked too slow between studios or they spent too much time with new - old callers. Give it a chance.

[Mud Duck]

More food for thought... Wakka wakka!

Just listened to the replay of the 4/25/06 show, and about 30 mins in, Opie addressed the concerns of us fans by saying something to the effect of "This past half hour would have been fine for terrestrial radio, is it that bad?"

YES, it was...I think I maybe laughed twice, and the content wasnt memorable by any extent consisting of Opie reading an article, lackluster making fun of Steve C, and Maury Povich (not in that order)...

With that being said, I'm not going to be one to totally bash the move until I see the result.. Before I get blasted, I understand that the above segment was only a 30 min portion during an odd time in between the CBS move completion.... But as Anthony says "Majority of radio listeners are passive listeners"...

I do still wonder just what the boys could possibly do to 'push the envelope' during the 6-9am hours for CBS... I guess only time will tell...

::Insert Brokeback Mountain theme here::

[supertool]

I'll repeat this from another thread:

Here is my concern. I work in radio, I know the new FCC rules.

Imagine this:

A 'lil Jimmy rant on a caller that involves no cursing, no initials of curse words, no sexually charged remarks, no references to sexual organs or acts, no obscure references to organs or acts (yellow treats, oral treats, balloon knot), no pedophilia, no beastiality and no references to body secretions including piss and farts.

How the fuck does that work? These are all FCC finable under the new rules.

Well. there's the "Name your favorite ice cream bit."

[BitWrecker]

Again, this is CBS's responsibility

[CoonInaBasket]

Healthy criticism from the fans is what is going to keep the show of a high quality. Simply assuming that the show is going to be good when changes are being made that will severely affect the content of the show is somewhat naive.

You makes some fair points, Bitwrecker, in that we should all give the new show a chance. The sole exception to that is the commercial situation-we already know full well how thats going to work and its going to suck. There is no way that the amount of commercials will be reduced, even if fans do complain.

[supertool]

Yup they sure do. Some firewalls ban by url, others have software that scan pages upon request for keywords, n word and others. There is actually a subscription service for a list of "questionable" words and phrases.


Jesus, how does any of the shit on this board make it through a "corporate server?"

[OnePremier]

Maybe I'm crazy... but do all the mentions of "beeps" mean that XM listeners will still get all the vulgar goodness and CBS will get mostly beeps and some dumps? They may have figured out how to get around the whole "F" & "C" thing by just saying it and covering it with a beep. Eh... we'll find out soon enough.

You're crazy... There's a limited amount of dump time, due to the broadcast delay. If they did this, they'd run out of dump time and whatever "naughtiness" will be aired on CBS... then the station, and possibly O&A (remember the FCC passed a law that said they have the ability to fine individual broadcasters) 500,000 big ones.

I called today and expressed my concern about this move. They did a funny show at WNEW (im a bigger fan of the XM show myself though)... but that was before the fucking FCC crackdown. They've been shit-canning people on radio since the incident for VERY minor infractions. The concern, again, is not about the curses (although that is irritating), its about the CONTENT... i.e. ****, pedophilia, domestic violence, etc. etc. jokes being subject to restriction. Someone expressed it earlier in the thread.. that the appeal of O&A on satellite is the ability to converse in a normal fashion without self-censoring.

Again, we're not judging THE NEW SHOW ITSELF, because we havn't heard it yet... we're judging the circumstances under which the new show will take place. And thats a valid concern, despite what some of you are saying, with your oh-so-clever retorts of "just dont listen then", and "Flush-buy-fuck" (man that one gets funnier each time I see it).

And also, to anyone saying "whatever pisses hoo-hoo off is more gooder"... do you understand you're among 5-10 percent of listeners who share the same sentiment? Honestly, most people dont give a fuck about him, as long as the show is entertaining, funny, passionate, and honest. If they can make Howard bashing one of those 4, then more power too them. But IF its something that comprimises the CIRCUMSTANCES of the show, then it's certainly not worth it.

I do have faith in the boys, and I hope they can make this work. I think they understand that they now have the potential to piss off ALOT of loyal listeners if they botch this. But as talented as they are, hopefully they'll have little problem making this work.

Godspeed boys.

(Then again, i guess if they get booted off CBS radio again... we'll hopefully go back to more XM goodness).

[Deebomber]

Am I the only one that thinks the XM show is going to go just crazy because the bbboys will be able to do what they really want to do there? They can get the boring stuff out of the way, and get to the real business at hand on XM.
That's the point pal. We all signed on for 4 hours of raw radio not 2. And if you remember how regular radio works their are no beeps on live radio. If someone curses a whole 7-10 seconds gets cut out.
I think us non-pest are gonna have to get on the phones and start throwing bombs and make them dump it out.

[freak8]

Agreed, they say this all came together quickly, but they've been hinting at it for fucking months.
yes

[freak8]

What about Opie saying I hope Elo and XM can come up with some interesting stuff to play during the CBS breaks? Why not figure this shit out before signing the deal??

i hate to say this but

$$$$$$$$$$$

their chasing the money

[CoonInaBasket]

And also, to anyone saying "whatever pisses hoo-hoo off is more gooder"... do you understand you're among 5-10 percent of listeners who share the same sentiment? Honestly, most people dont give a fuck about him, as long as the show is entertaining, funny, passionate, and honest.

Thats the point a lot of people are missing... I could care less about hoo-hoo. The O&A show's sole reason for existence is not to combat or thwart the geriatric at every turn; rather, its about providing quality and edgy entertainment. The boys can irritate Stern all day long by being in his studio and in his old time slot on testicular radio but if their show's edge is dulled as a result of the FM portion than thats not a good thing.

[OnePremier]

here's something to think about...

Today when Ant was trying to recap what happened on the XM show yesterday, he made reference to Stalker Patti, in order to get her glasses back..."Had to grab a part of Jimmy's anatomy."

"A part of Jimmy's anatomy" ? ... Is this how much the FCC has cracked down? He couldn't say "Grabbed his mule" or "grabbed his Hog"? I'll give the benifit of the doubt to Anthony... that that may have been the first substitution for "cock" that came to his mind. But god i hope that the boys get tired of such intense self-censorship and lighten up a little as the show goes on. Even jimmy was talking about trying to "have sex" with Philly girls today... anyone know if they dumped that on FreeFM?

[livebackwards]

Was anyone listening when Anthony said they're just trying to play nice and get used to the routine for now, but they are GOING to butt heads over content later? Not "it'll probably be an issue" or "we're almost certainly going to have problems", he already knows: he and Opie are going to do some shit that's going to get them called into the CBS office for long, somber talks. I agree the shift has been somewhat jarring, but they're still in "play nice" stage. Sometime ago in an interview, the bbboys said something like "You can't just go in and lead with your balls. You have to build a listenership, get the ratings, and then you can start pushing the envelope and treating your boss like the asshole he is." That's what they did at WAAF, WNEW, and that's what they'll do at CBS. I bet it won't take very long, either.

[patrickduffyleg]

Opie is a brilliant broadcaster. I'd trust him with my chobe.

[fmeinthea]

I hope that the towel heads come back and bomb the FCC building.