Release from E-Lo

[niklbag]

i dont know if this has been posted or not. sorry if it was

http://www.fmqb.com/Article.asp?id=206195

[distortion9]

Fucking DREK, especially this.

"We're going to be able to raise Opie & Anthony's awareness, sell more subscriptions and really have exclusive content for our subscribers which is the core of why they subscribed to XM to begin with."


Not only do I NOT want to or have to buy a portable XM unit anymore but, I don't "NEED" XM anymore. I can listen to O&A on my 20 year old walkman or on Direct TV when at home.

I was willing to pay X amount of dollars per month to get 4 hours of commercial free, uncensored O&A but, not for 2 hours.

If people are getting 3 free hours of O&A why on earth would they PAY for an extra 2?

[askewcore]

If people are getting 3 free hours of O&A why on earth would they PAY for an extra 2?

A) Those extra two (sometimes three) hours will be more entertaining.

B) You get more than just O&A with XM

C) Its not like XM breaks your bank, and if it does, get a new job.

D) This bitching before the show has even begun is really getting fucking ridiculous.

[Yurie]

Fucking DREK, especially this.

"We're going to be able to raise Opie & Anthony's awareness, sell more subscriptions and really have exclusive content for our subscribers which is the core of why they subscribed to XM to begin with."


Not only do I NOT want to or have to buy a portable XM unit anymore but, I don't "NEED" XM anymore. I can listen to O&A on my 20 year old walkman or on Direct TV when at home.

I was willing to pay X amount of dollars per month to get 4 hours of commercial free, uncensored O&A but, not for 2 hours.

If people are getting 3 free hours of O&A why on earth would they PAY for an extra 2?

3 hours on regular radio is like 2hours on XM because of commercial blocks. And with the transition from place to place it will be about the same amount of actual show but i feel exactly the same.

[getmeajury]

Hey niklbag,
Can you cut and paste that response? My company firewall blocks that site for some reason.

[krunk]

"Look, the fact that they are doing the three hours for CBS and they are going to walk up the street every day and do the show at XM will really provide for them and their guests and everybody associated with the show an appropriate mental switch about what the show is for CBS and what the show is for XM."

And what about concerns over diluting the program or complaints from the XM subscribers that will cry foul of losing exclusivity? "You always have that fear, but it's a short-term thought process," says Logan. "Whatever short-term issues we're going to have with subscribers that feel like O&A have sold out or feel that there is going to be a degradation of the quality of content, those are all very manageable issues. Those issues are going to be very, very small compared to the significant upside and acquisition opportunities that we are going to have."



spin E Lo...spin....

[krunk]

"We're in the syndication business with O&A but we're going to take it one step at a time," says Logan. "We've been approached by a variety of companies for a variety of content. We currently syndicate the Bob Edwards show to a lot of public radio stations for a weekend show. We have been quietly executing out strategy of monetizing and utilizing our content in creative ways. It all comes down to what is right for XM and what's right for our subscribers and what's right for the brand. If the scenario and the situation is correct, we'll talk. As it sits right now, we're really focusing in on making sure O&A are very successful. This is a very high profile deal, obviously, so we are making sure they have all the resources and support from us."


HA HA...they're ripping off that ghoul Bob Edwards.......hoo hoo

[niklbag]

Behind The Opie & Anthony Deal With XM EVP/Programming Eric Logan

April 25, 2006

Yesterday morning (4/24), XM Satellite Radio Executive VP of Programming Eric Logan joined CBS Radio Chairman and CEO Joel Hollander in Howard Stern's old K-Rock studio. The occasion was to formally announce a landmark syndication deal between the satcaster and the terrestrial radio company that will place XM's Opie & Anthony show back on CBS Radio affiliates. While not the first of its kind, the magnitude of this deal far outweighs any other of its type.

"What we have done has really changed the game," says Logan. "We have clearly demonstrated how we can take satellite radio which is a terrific portfolio of content and leverage it in a way which is beneficial to CBS. They are going to be able to generate enormous ratings, charge high rates and make a lot of revenue. We're going to be able to raise Opie & Anthony's awareness, sell more subscriptions and really have exclusive content for our subscribers which is the core of why they subscribed to XM to begin with. So we expose them to more people and it is really, in every case, a win/win for both companies."

"There is significant branding and brand awareness for Opie & Anthony and XM as a result of this," Logan continues. "We wouldn't be doing this if we didn't feel that we were going to be able to further our brand. To be able to do it with a partner like Joel is terrific. Joel and CBS get it. CBS is a great content company and so is XM. It was a matter of us just getting in a room and being able to put the right deal together."

The genesis of this deal goes back to the days after Stern announced his move to Sirius Satellite Radio. "[XM President and CEO] Hugh Panero had approached Joel about this a while back," explains Logan. "I had just recently joined the company and we talked about how we could do a couple of things – really freeze the Howard Stern fans by offering compelling radio and leveraging our content in a new and innovative way and really finding a way to monetize our content."

"CBS is getting the best show in radio," says an unabashed Logan. "They are going to get a show that will generate enormous ratings for them. Being the former VP of Programming for their company, I know that is the name of the game for them. They have to get ratings, as ratings equals revenue. It's a proven show. It is a show that has been successful in New York before. And the show, over the last 18-19 months, has gotten so much better. I am really excited to see this show perform in that world now."

CBS Radio definitely gets a proven commodity to replace the miserable train wreck that was the David Lee Roth show. Could CBS Radio have given Roth more time to grow? Probably. But in today's world where artist development means "results now" and not eighteen months from now, CBS Radio needed a fix for the void left behind by Howard Stern. Replacing Stern is no easy task. Ask Clear Channel, who is now a little over two years removed from dropping Stern's program off its six stations and is still in recovery mode at some of those outlets.

And while CBS is benefiting from the return of O&A, Logan likes what the deal brings to the table for XM. "From our perspective," he explains, "We get a tremendous amount of exposure for XM through the Opie & Anthony lens and have the ability to reconnect with a lot of Opie & Anthony listeners who have not yet either subscribed, heard, or been made aware that O&A went to XM. They are one of the most popular shows on the platform and they have grown their base completely different than ever before by growing it on a national basis. The base of fans they have now comes from all across the country. Now they are going to layer in their former base and are only going to be bigger. We get tremendous branding out of it and an opportunity to further grow our superstars."

While most people know of Opie & Anthony because of one ill-conceived stunt in New York City, or maybe a couple in Boston, one of the things people are going to be surprised with is the content of their show. While Howard Stern has been accusing them of ripping him off, their show is nowhere near the over-the-top, sexual antics, not ready for FCC controlled radio that Stern's Sirius program has become. As for O&A, outside of the amount of cursing, there are very few things that they do now that couldn't be transferred to terrestrial radio.

"People think what they have been doing over at XM is this triple X, let's live across the line show and it absolutely hasn't," says Logan. "It's been some of the funniest, most creative radio that easily could be aired on terrestrial radio. One of the reasons why this deal was so easy to do is that we feel a majority of our subscribers and the O&A fans will not hear a noticeable difference in the quality of content they are going to get for the first three hours and vis-à-vis the second two-plus hours. Because the content, minus the exception of a few curse words, could be on terrestrial radio today."

And maybe reel in Patrice O'Neal a bit? "I was just on the phone with him trying to follow up on our negotiations from Friday (4/21)," laughs Logan. Not meaning to single out O'Neal, as he is a great asset to the O&A show, it's just that he brings a sense of humor to the program that few comedians dare to have today with his no-holds-barred, no race, no gender left untouched humor. He also has his own program on XM's High Voltage channel that is a quality program in its own right. Plus, don't forget that they will have a dump button at CBS.

So, is Logan worried about a noticeable difference in content during the CBS Radio portion versus the XM portion? "Look, the fact that they are doing the three hours for CBS and they are going to walk up the street every day and do the show at XM will really provide for them and their guests and everybody associated with the show an appropriate mental switch about what the show is for CBS and what the show is for XM."

And what about concerns over diluting the program or complaints from the XM subscribers that will cry foul of losing exclusivity? "You always have that fear, but it's a short-term thought process," says Logan. "Whatever short-term issues we're going to have with subscribers that feel like O&A have sold out or feel that there is going to be a degradation of the quality of content, those are all very manageable issues. Those issues are going to be very, very small compared to the significant upside and acquisition opportunities that we are going to have."

Speaking of acquisitions, one major aspect of the deal with CBS Radio was XM now has access to all their archived content from their WNEW days. Yes, even that infamous show that got them put on the beach for two years.

"It was a big deal [to get that content]," says Logan. "There is a lot of great content there. One of the things that we believe in at satellite radio is great content is great content and we want to get our hands on it. It doesn't always have to be great content that you are making today. It could be great archive content. Opie & Anthony's early shows and the archives at WNEW is terrific and fascinating and wonderful radio. A lot of great things can come out of that. If you look at what we have done with Wolfman Jack, he is back on XM. He does a show on the 60s channel every night. We worked out a way to buy his archives. With O&A, it was very important and something we really wanted, so we worked with Bob Eatman and CBS said yes. We now have the ability to have O&A: The Early Years or some other things as well."

Could there be more syndication deals for O&A or other XM personalities or content in the future? "We're in the syndication business with O&A but we're going to take it one step at a time," says Logan. "We've been approached by a variety of companies for a variety of content. We currently syndicate the Bob Edwards show to a lot of public radio stations for a weekend show. We have been quietly executing out strategy of monetizing and utilizing our content in creative ways. It all comes down to what is right for XM and what's right for our subscribers and what's right for the brand. If the scenario and the situation is correct, we'll talk. As it sits right now, we're really focusing in on making sure O&A are very successful. This is a very high profile deal, obviously, so we are making sure they have all the resources and support from us."

[Brady T cell]

If people are getting 3 free hours of O&A why on earth would they PAY for an extra 2?

The same reason people will pay the extra $$ for uncut movies on HBO when they show the same but watered down stuff on USA.

Why would you not keep XM. Wait till the 55 gallon drum challenge and it's promoted from 6-9 but you can only hear it on XM.

[Chimpo]

That magnificent bastard could sell radio to the deaf.

[distortion9]

Why would you not keep XM.

Between "Free FM" and Direct TV, why SHOULD I keep XM?

I dig XM but, if I'm being honest, I bought it for O&A not the music. Like I said, I have Direct TV so I can hear O&A and most of the music channels I listen to. Why NOT cancel and save some bucks?

[Schwapp]

A) Those extra two (sometimes three) hours will be more entertaining.

B) You get more than just O&A with XM

C) Its not like XM breaks your bank, and if it does, get a new job.

D) This bitching before the show has even begun is really getting fucking ridiculous.

A) So...the XM hours will be more entertaining? Not according to the spin job everyone is doing about the 3 commercial radio hours supposedly being just as good. I mean...didn't everyone say that yesterday and the boys try to argue that point all day? And if you believe it will be 3 hours more than a very few times...or if you want to forget that they're doing their trek from one studio to another and doubtfully will start at 9am...you're drinking the Kool-Aid a lil too heavily.

B) Some of us only have XM because of O&A. Honestly...I don't need the rest of the stuff. Its nice, but I can burn CDs to listen to and be perfectly happy.

C) That's right everybody...it doesn't break your wallet...so pay $13 for something that barely has a notable benefit to you.

D) Much of what is being bitched about is already known without a show airing (format, amount of censored vs uncensored content, etc).

[getmeajury]

Thanks niklbag.
Elo is slick. Corporate shark. Bet his eyes rolled back white when becoming aware of this opportunity.

Elo says:
"There is significant branding and brand awareness for Opie & Anthony and XM as a result of this," Logan continues. "We wouldn't be doing this if we didn't feel that we were going to be able to further our brand."
-and-
"From our perspective," he explains, "We get a tremendous amount of exposure for XM through the Opie & Anthony lens.."

So by his own admission, this was done in part to increase XM brand awareness. The thinking is that brand awareness will equal more subscribers.

First get the hype that comes from intial story, second get curoisity factor with OandA back on free fm, third xm will get exposure on a competitor daily.

The number of XM subscriptions that can directly be attributed to OandA is a probably relatively small percentage of the whole of subscriptions. From XM's perspective if all these subscribers become unhappy, big f'in deal. I would suggest that XM is betting that the number of potential future subscribers resulting from the XM exposure this move makes will ecilipse the number of lost unhappy subscribers by a wide margin. Otherwise they would not be doing this.
As critical as we XM OandA fans believe we are, it just isnt true. If money can be made dispite every single OandA fan taking their Xm reciever and flushing it and then fucking their respective mothers, make no mistake your flushing will make no difference.
XM's motives are not altruristic to the fans or OandA, to think otherwise is foolish.

[krunk]

The same reason people will pay the extra $$ for uncut movies on HBO when they show the same but watered down stuff on USA.

Why would you not keep XM. Wait till the 55 gallon drum challenge and it's promoted from 6-9 but you can only hear it on XM.

so they'll put the girls into the drums at CBS...then pick them all out and move it all to XM with a forklift?

[thepza]

My pre-paid year of XM isn't up until October, but at that time...squish. Gone.

Thanks for sacrificing your true fans for the good of XM, b-b-boys. I feel like I've been *****: bought a new in-dash XM receiver for my car to hear the boys...it's been good, but year, as others are saying, for those extra two hours of "good" content, I can just download it and listen on my iPod.

Stern still sucks, but O&A are fucking pissing me off. And that show this morning...has Opie's ASSHOLE virus spread to the whole crew?

I fondly remember Opie telling me at Jimmy's Dallas show in 2004 that nothing was yet decided, but he and Anthony felt Sirius was the best company and had the best programming. A few months later, they signed to XM.

Sorry, but I had to say it, you're fucking shit up for us in order to help the company.

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[Schwapp]

Between "Free FM" and Direct TV, why SHOULD I keep XM?

I dig XM but, if I'm being honest, I bought it for O&A not the music. Like I said, I have Direct TV so I can hear O&A and most of the music channels I listen to. Why NOT cancel and save some bucks?

I'll be honest: I bought it to get uninterrupted ESPN originally. They have this shitty personality, Tony Mercurio, who sucks dog dick that cuts into the Dan Patrick show often. That and minor league baseball that they air on the only 2 sports radio stations in the area.

But I likely would have cancelled when the rate got increased if not for the fact that O&A...heroes of free speech that lost their job due to Paul Mercurio more than anything, IMO...that douche...had come on. I remember when I first saw lil Jimmy with that O&A shirt on Tough Crowd...I was never so fucking excited about a bit of entertainment coming my way.

I'm not in a market that the free deal covers...so I'll likely keep my XM for now...but I'm doubtful of this being a fun experience for die hard fans and really don't care for how dismissive the boys are of the concerns...

[thepza]

You're right, getmeajury.
This move really suggests that O&A can't take credit for much of the XM audience. They'll willing to toss to the curb anyone who came to XM for O&A in exchange for all the fucking losers who didn't follow the b-b-boys.
Thanks guys.



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[Schwapp]

The same reason people will pay the extra $$ for uncut movies on HBO when they show the same but watered down stuff on USA.

Why would you not keep XM. Wait till the 55 gallon drum challenge and it's promoted from 6-9 but you can only hear it on XM.

They haven't done the 55 gallon drum challenge in the last 18 months and now the Free FM move will bring it about? Doubtful. :)

[Dugpa]

"People think what they have been doing over at XM is this triple X, let's live across the line show and it absolutely hasn't," says Logan. "It's been some of the funniest, most creative radio that easily could be aired on terrestrial radio. One of the reasons why this deal was so easy to do is that we feel a majority of our subscribers and the O&A fans will not hear a noticeable difference in the quality of content they are going to get for the first three hours and vis-à-vis the second two-plus hours. Because the content, minus the exception of a few curse words, could be on terrestrial radio today."



I don't buy this, no matter how many times they say it.

[getmeajury]

..but O&A are fucking pissing me off. And that show this morning...has Opie's ASSHOLE virus spread to the whole crew?
] ]

Agreed.
The tone of show today was "fuck you xm subscribers, haha".
Unbelieveable.

[BitWrecker]

I think you who are thinking this is a bad thing are being a tad overreactive. The best-of shows and clips from the old NEW days will make for awesome entertainment on weekends and after hours.
The CBS show will be bleeped and possibly even some content shifted, hense the delay. The XM experience, 5-6 hours a day, will still BLOW AWAY what the free FM'ers will hear.
Not to mention, the selfishness of people who have been along for this long and bumpy ride to be bitching like schoolgirls as our BBBoys are finally getting the exposure thay deserve, is disheartening.
You pay for cable or dish, and there is a lot more crap on it, what is the issue here???

[BitWrecker]

They haven't done the 55 gallon drum challenge in the last 18 months and now the Free FM move will bring it about? Doubtful. :)

actually yes, they even addressed this. The widening of the markets will make the "bit's" more realistic since they will have more people in the pool to choose from, not to mention 3 of our sickest fan bases being back in play.

[BitWrecker]

Agreed.
The tone of show today was "fuck you xm subscribers, haha".
Unbelieveable.

Thinking we listened to different shows. They were proving a point that they could have done todays show on free FM with no problems, and anyone who was with them before XM, knows damn well they know how to do it.

[Bill]

My pre-paid year of XM isn't up until October, but at that time...squish. Gone.


They will give you a pro-rated refund. So cancel now.


for those extra two hours of "good" content, I can just download it and listen on my iPod.


You can "steal" the entire show now. What's the difference between stealing the last two hours of the show and stealing the entire thing?


Sorry, but I had to say it, you're fucking shit up for us in order to help the company.


Uhhh. That's who they work for. It's their job to help the company.

[krunk]

Uhhh. That's who they work for. It's their job to help the company.


it's not like they're doing it for free.....or out of the kindness of their hearts...and listening to the announcement broadcast.....this is the move they wanted all along...to do mornings in NYC.....they didn't necessarily want to be on satellite radio 18 months ago

[Schwapp]

actually yes, they even addressed this. The widening of the markets will make the "bit's" more realistic since they will have more people in the pool to choose from, not to mention 3 of our sickest fan bases being back in play.

Ummm...fans in the NY area that weren't willing to pay for XM are supposed to be willing to get in a 55 gallon drum?

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...

[Lubriderm]

I haven't listened to todays show yet, but I'm betting it's The Angry Typing Guy and Anthony show today. Are you people really fretting over $13 a month?

[thepza]

Bill,

I will check, but I'm pretty certain my annual agreement had a cancellation fine associated with it for early termination.

What's eLo's e-mail address?

I'm all for the boys doing what's good for them...until it means they become hypocritical shitheads like Stern. No doubt they'll be huge on terrestrial radio, but why all the fucking games about how the terrestrial radio format sucks, etc.?

I'm giving the boys a chance, but it doesn't sound good and they're condescending bullshit ain't helping.

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[krunk]

I haven't listened to todays show yet, but I'm betting it's The Angry Typing Guy and Anthony show today. Are you people really fretting over $13 a month?

c'mon...it's not the money....it's the principle....right?

[getmeajury]

Thinking we listened to different shows. They were proving a point that they could have done todays show on free FM with no problems, and anyone who was with them before XM, knows damn well they know how to do it.

Was that point proven? Not likely.
And yes I did listen in the 'olden' pre xm days.
Do not discount the fact that FCC compliance means entirely something different today, than when they were on wnew.
"F"in and "C"sucker will not work now.
Content is now a reason for censure.

I hope they can pull it off.

[krunk]

hey....O&A will be doing a mid day show for XM.....and mid day is the best time slot...right?

[getmeajury]

I haven't listened to todays show yet, but I'm betting it's The Angry Typing Guy and Anthony show today. Are you people really fretting over $13 a month?

My fretting is not because of the money which is a non factor.
I am concerned about rapid and significant weakening of content.

[Smokezilla]

Why is everybody so freaked-out by this change to the program?!?!? So what if they are going to be doing 3 hours of FCC-friendly material in the morning. The B-B-Boys can do enough raunchy, uncensored material in the 2 hours everyday at XM that are MORE than enough. Hell, the funny for a little while will be the mad scramble to bring the non-subscribers "up-to-speed" with what they've been missing.

If nothing else, this is going to give XM the push they need to finally crush Sirius. I see a ton of listeners who were Stern fans getting on-board with the O&A program and making the move to XM. If Stern hadn't been a greedy bastard and tried to railroad his fanbase into buying a Sirius without showing them what satellite radio could do, he could have pulled-off the same thing. This is hillarious. Stern just fucked himself by vacating the CBS spot and leaving O&A a vacant slot to slide right into. Once the former Stern listeners gets a taste of O&A, the "uber-fans" will gladly subscribe to the XM service to get more. It's like a drug dealer: The first couple of tastes are free, but they can't keep giving you the shit for free.:icon_wink

[Lubriderm]

c'mon...it's not the money....it's the principle....right?
I don't think that that line of thought is without merit, but you should look at the bigger picture. More listeners should mean more and better guests, and hopefully more road trips, which I love listening to. CBS really needs to reclaim lost listeners, so I'm guessing that they will be pumping plenty of promotional money into the show.

But who knows, there is a fine line between cautious optimism and me being a total fucking idiot. I guess time will tell.

[Lubriderm]

I bought XM just to hear O&A initially. I made that decision based upon the quality of their show from the NEW days. Yes, the freedom of satalite is refreshing, but if they were entertaining 4 years ago, why would now be any different?

[pgoins]

You got be nuts to get rid of your XM. You know the 2+ hours of show will be worth it, not to mention us sucks that have to have to work will be able to get the replay. Beside when I listen to tunes there's no going back to terrestrial.

[SnuggleBug]

I don't understand why people are bitching about paying for O&A "when they can get them for free now". Am I the only one that got XM radio for stuff OTHER than O&A?? I listen to the show 5 days a week. If they are having a dull segment, or on vacation, or it's the weekend, i LISTEN to other stuff on XM. (sports, music, news, etc...with no lame commercials and a much bigger variety that isn't offered on terrestrial radio) If you are paying 13 dollars just to listen to O&A, then yes you are paying too much and you obviously aren't using XM's cababilities, and no offense but you're a tool. I LOVE MY FIX OF OPIE AND ANTHONY, but if there was no show or they didn't exist, i would STILL have satellite radio, so i never have to get frustrated by looking to turn something on like i did with commercial radio. I USE my XM for O&A first, then everything else second. Plain and simple, satellite radio is better whether or not O&A is available for free or NOT

[krunk]

I don't think that that line of thought is without merit, but you should look at the bigger picture. More listeners should mean more and better guests, and hopefully more road trips, which I love listening to. CBS really needs to reclaim lost listeners, so I'm guessing that they will be pumping plenty of promotional money into the show.

But who knows, there is a fine line between cautious optimism and me being a total fucking idiot. I guess time will tell.

i was bein' sarcastic....

[Badgun]

Agreed.
The tone of show today was "fuck you xm subscribers, haha".
Unbelieveable.


Not only that, they claim they're so fucking honest and they take any calls, but what did they do to that Liz chick who was about to make a complaint as an XM listener? They fucking hung up on her and then made fun of her. But they seem to let all the little douchebags through that wanted to kiss their ass.

Fuck em...all they've done for three fucking days is read fucking newspaper articles glorifying their return to commercial radio. We get it, we've heard all the shit already, just do the radio show and shut the fuck up.

[Lubriderm]

i was bein' sarcastic....
I know, but it seemed like a good opportunity to make a long winded reply anyways, for the Chicken Little crowd who are making a big stink over nothing.

[danny666]

The O and A program is a very interactive show and the more people it's available to the better the show will be. I'm excited by the possiblities. They now have more power too. Other shows that attacked them in the past will now have to pay and O and A's rants will now be heard. There will be some cool new storylines and they will be able to reach more of the mutants of society(tm).

XM will be the best place to hear the show, because you'll have access to all five plus hours of their show. You can also change to music channels during the 20 minute commercials.

It will also improve their pedigree. They are kind of dismissed by the general public as just satellite radio guys who got in the news because of a stunt.(when in fact they had a highly rated(with males) program in afternoon drive in several major markets.) If they can make it in morning drive in NYC, maybe get the top spot in male demographics, even if it is just once. Then it would be like a horse winning a grade one stakes, they'll always have that prestige. So if they ever become exclusively on sat radio again that company would know how valuable they really are to that company.(instead of treating them equal to say a Bob Edwards) Of course, nothing is guaranteed and they can fail miserably, but I think O and A with lil Jimmy have a good product and believe they will win in the end.

[vndwnbytheriver]

while i think this is a great thing for the b-b-boys i dont see how this will bring in any new subs, remember these are the same people who DIDNT follow howard to sirius. the same people that decided it wasnt worth it to pay for radio. I am all for the exposuure of the boys, and my self ive been an xm subscriber scine 2001, but i fail to see how this will bring in any new subs.

[askewcore]

A) So...the XM hours will be more entertaining? Not according to the spin job everyone is doing about the 3 commercial radio hours supposedly being just as good. I mean...didn't everyone say that yesterday and the boys try to argue that point all day? And if you believe it will be 3 hours more than a very few times...or if you want to forget that they're doing their trek from one studio to another and doubtfully will start at 9am...you're drinking the Kool-Aid a lil too heavily.

I dont really care what people were arguing yesterday, I didnt ever say the Free FM hours would be as good, they wont. The XM show is better in my opinion, I'm sure once they get back into the swing of regular radio, the 6-9 hours will be fine, but the XM show will still be better, funnier and more raw.

You're right they probably wont go till 12 often at all.

They're like 4 blocks down the road from the XM studios, they can make that walk in about 4-5 minutes, they wont have a problem starting at 9.

What the fuck kool-aid am I drinking? Anyone who disagrees with you is blindly following O&A? I was just giving reasons why people should keep XM. If you only want O&A and feel you're getting jipped out, cancel, then jump in a lake.


Ummm...fans in the NY area that weren't willing to pay for XM are supposed to be willing to get in a 55 gallon drum?

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...


Yeah stupid. They dont just get in the drum for shit and giggles, you have a prize for the winner. CBS gets better prizes to give than XM, leading to better contests.

[MikeyP]

I don't think that that line of thought is without merit, but you should look at the bigger picture. More listeners should mean more and better guests, and hopefully more road trips, which I love listening to. CBS really needs to reclaim lost listeners, so I'm guessing that they will be pumping plenty of promotional money into the show.


You got be nuts to get rid of your XM. You know the 2+ hours of show will be worth it, not to mention us sucks that have to have to work will be able to get the replay. Beside when I listen to tunes there's no going back to terrestrial.

These posts hit the nail on the head as to why we should be happy about this move and why we should keep our XMs. Plus Black Phillip, R&F, and any other O&A "brand" or inspired programming that makes its way onto 202.

Honestly, I think all the Negative Nancys need to relax just a little bit.

Some people will still get that on DirecTV and to them I say fine. My prediction is that most of the other folks will still want to be able to listen while staying mobile, such as in the car or with XM2go.

Without trying to sound like a sycophant, I really have to say that as it stands now I completely agree with this move and with what E-Lo had to say in the article. My only criticism is the 2-studios thing, hopefully something'll change there but if it doesn't I'll live, and I'll still listen.

[LilConnersPenis]

hey....O&A will be doing a mid day show for XM.....and mid day is the best time slot...right?

L.A. Drive Time

[askewcore]

Honestly, I think all the Negative Nancys need to relax just a little bit.


Did you notice that there's not alot of New York, Boston or Philly people bitching about this? The people who remember them pre-XM know that the commercial show will end up fine. O&A have done alot of shit in the past, and it hasnt hurt the show yet (save for SFS3) so I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt here. People were pissed off when they first had Norton become a full-time part of the show, fans, in general will bitch about anything. I'm keeping my XM, so hopefully, this really wont affect me at all, outside of pushing R&F back.

Agreed.
The tone of show today was "fuck you xm subscribers, haha".
Unbelieveable.

If you couldnt pick up the sarcasm in that whole gag, take your life now.

[loki2486]

OH my gosh... you people are just blowing this WAY out. Come-on give O and A a chance, at least listen to their program first.

I noticed that most of the people doing all the bitching have relatively low post counts... hmmm... could there be a Stern fan in sheep's clothing amongst us?

A few observations:

1. If you have XM, you are not going to have a "watered-down" show the first three hours. The boys are going to do what they do, and everything is going to be the same on XM, it's the FM radio show that is going to get censored.

2. OK... well the boys will have to what their lanuage the first three hours, but honestly do you REALLY need "fuck/cunt/ass/shit..." to be in EVERY Sentence to keep you entertained? What are you in the 5th graded?

3. I failed to see how this move CAN'T cause more people to subscribe to XM. Just imagine the first 3 hours talking about the "super-ball" challenge, but only starts at XM studio. OandA could use the first 3 hours to promote what they are going to do during the XM exclusive 2+ hours. How could that be bad for subscriptions?

4. O and A being on FM will enable them to book more A-list people on their show. So far on XM they have only a few guests that anybody would know, Milla, Dennis Leary, Jay Mohr... expect that list to grow.

5. I'm certain that O and A are going to loose some of their "fans" with this move, but I think that the core of the fanbase will remained intact and grow...

6. For all those people that are threaten to cancel their subscription, I would say head ahead, because the revenue stream from syndication/sponsers/new subscription will be more than enough to balance out your cancellations.

[Mother Shucker]

From the title of the thread, I thought it had something to do with Yanky Cranky.

[Baggity Bag]

So by his own admission, this was done in part to increase XM brand awareness. The thinking is that brand awareness will equal more subscribers.

Well, yes, Elo's job isn't to be your friend. It's to get subscribers. Do you think you "caught" him?

....We'll be talking about the 2 hours you missed.....so maybe you can get a contact high off of us........

For those who are getting rid your XM radios.....Go to your bathroom...flush the radio down the toilet...and go fuck your mom....

BTW, that'll be the last time you hear that.....it won't be on FM....

[niklbag]

quote -->"1. If you have XM, you are not going to have a "watered-down" show the first three hours. The boys are going to do what they do, and everything is going to be the same on XM, it's the FM radio show that is going to get censored."



You sir are a moron. This statement makes no sense and the fact that you say this tells me you have no idea what is going on.

[TurboDan]

The sound quality on XM's music channels sounds like a mid-90s RealAudio feed being accessed through CompuServe. The SQ is absolutely atrocious, and gives me a headache on plenty of channels. Unless they improve this, I might ditch XM. I'll gladly pay $13 for commercial free music, but if I can't even listen to that music due to degraded SQ, what's the point?

There are plenty of ways you'll be able to hear O&A without being an XM sub - believe me. This is 2006.

[askewcore]

From the title of the thread, I thought it had something to do with Yanky Cranky.

One could only wish....

[pinheadrbc]

today's show was horse shit. they ignored everyone who made a good point. the biggest issue that pertains to us is the commercial time, and they think they can put old worst of on and appease us? this attempt to insult our intelligence is absurd. remember how you said "give them a chance" during the summer when youre getting TWENTY MINUTE bits again and paying for them. we paid for the one hour clips, and i guarantee we lose them after the FIRST months ratings are followed by huge advertising bucks. they should have fought to stay on the air during FM commercial time, they should have fought to do an XM show and make CBS edit it, instead we as XM listeners are going to be the ones who suffer. I'm not addressing their content, because I realize that they're capable of putting on a funny show. But it's going to be just like before they were fired from NEW: funny, but in very small doses. Of course we're going to keep listening, but for me, it will forever be with a grain of salt, as nothing they say will ever seem honest again.

[getmeajury]

Well, yes, Elo's job isn't to be your friend. It's to get subscribers. Do you think you "caught" him?

No I dont think I "caught" him. I was trying to point out to the kool-aid drinkers around that believe Elo, etc have some greater purpose for this travesty.

[getmeajury]

Did you notice that there's not alot of New York, Boston or Philly people bitching about this?

New York here. And yes listened to OandA on wnew. And yes I am concerned.
It is a fact that FCC compliance has a different meaning now than in 2000.

[TurboDan]

I said it the other day and I'll say it again. Next time they're playing Bubba and Howard clips, maybe they can dig up that one of Opie a few months ago screaming into the mic (and I quote...)

"We don't want Howard's old slot! We work for XM now!"

I see the positives as well, but no one should "trust what the boys say" to any large extent. They're entertainers who want to grow their fan base. Remember when the show went to Citadel for a week back in '04 and they swore up and down the show wouldn't change, only to jokingly admit that they did water the shows down?

I'm not shitting all over the CBS deal, because there WILL be plusses, but at the same time I'm not sitting here like a zombie either.

[getmeajury]

D
If you couldnt pick up the sarcasm in that whole gag, take your life now.
The sarcasm was not lost on me, however it seemed like this particular sarcastic commentary was had a tangiable "yup, it sucks,.. for you" feeling to it.

[getmeajury]

If you only want O&A and feel you're getting jipped out, cancel, then jump in a lake.


Easy there mister! That is a little too edgy.

[augiep38]

Not only that, they claim they're so fucking honest and they take any calls, but what did they do to that Liz chick who was about to make a complaint as an XM listener? They fucking hung up on her and then made fun of her. But they seem to let all the little douchebags through that wanted to kiss their ass.

Fuck em...all they've done for three fucking days is read fucking newspaper articles glorifying their return to commercial radio. We get it, we've heard all the shit already, just do the radio show and shut the fuck up.

Exactly... and they are going to end up fucking over the east coast listeners because our morning commutes will be full of commercial breaks. Maybe I will luck out and the xm content will re-air on my commute home, but with my luck it isn't likely.

I got XM to listen to O&A. My wife has Sirius and the music channels on Sirius kick XM's ass.

I will give the new new show a shot, but I get the feeling that the XM listener is getting fucked over.

[pinheadrbc]

The sarcasm was not lost on me, however it seemed like this particular sarcastic commentary was had a tangiable "yup, it sucks,.. for you" feeling to it.

seemed like they were hiding their matter-of-factly attitude by presenting it as tongue-in-cheek. i was cool until today's show, and now i really believe they have less regard for the loyal XM listeners than i did before today's show. they're putting all the responsibility for filling commercial slots on ELo and XM, and that's not right. when someone said "i've heard all that old shit" today (in reference to putting old clips on), anthony replied "well its not all about you." that's well and good, but those of us who got XM for the guys HAVE heard the old shit, and they've lost sight of the fact that without us shelling out dollars for the last 18 months, there IS no new contract. they say "its only $13 a month," well that's easy for them, but not for a lot of us who are either students or have lousy jobs. they really think we're a lot dumber than we actually are.

[mwgiii]

That magnificent bastard could sell radio to the deaf.

I totally agree!

E-lo could sell sand to the Arabs.

[robinquivers]

Remain calm, all is well.

[getmeajury]

seemed like they were hiding their matter-of-factly attitude by presenting it as tongue-in-cheek. i was cool until today's show, and now i really believe they have less regard for the loyal XM listeners than i did before today's show.

I agree.
I was also cool until today. Yesterday I was optimistic, but that was dashed by today's faux tongue-in-cheek.

Good for them. Given a similar circumstance, I would probably do exactly the same thing.
In the face of ever larger sums of money, fame, etc, the perceived importance of "loyalty", honesty, and non-hypocrisy probably diminishes rapidly.

[Chimpo]

I'm going to wait until this thing really happens before I completely make up my mind either way.

It just sort of has that feeling like a hot chick that won't fuck you anymore, but she'll jerk you off. You'll still drop a load, but it's just not the same.

[Schwapp]

I haven't listened to todays show yet, but I'm betting it's The Angry Typing Guy and Anthony show today. Are you people really fretting over $13 a month?

Flip it around: are the boys really that excited about broadcasting to listeners who are fretting over $13/month (which is what the FreeFM crowd are)?

[Jay in PA]

I don't understand why people are bitching about paying for O&A "when they can get them for free now". Am I the only one that got XM radio for stuff OTHER than O&A?? I listen to the show 5 days a week. If they are having a dull segment, or on vacation, or it's the weekend, i LISTEN to other stuff on XM. (sports, music, news, etc...with no lame commercials and a much bigger variety that isn't offered on terrestrial radio) If you are paying 13 dollars just to listen to O&A, then yes you are paying too much and you obviously aren't using XM's cababilities, and no offense but you're a tool. I LOVE MY FIX OF OPIE AND ANTHONY, but if there was no show or they didn't exist, i would STILL have satellite radio, so i never have to get frustrated by looking to turn something on like i did with commercial radio. I USE my XM for O&A first, then everything else second. Plain and simple, satellite radio is better whether or not O&A is available for free or NOT
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[Schwapp]

I dont really care what people were arguing yesterday, I didnt ever say the Free FM hours would be as good, they wont. The XM show is better in my opinion, I'm sure once they get back into the swing of regular radio, the 6-9 hours will be fine, but the XM show will still be better, funnier and more raw.

You don't care what people were arguing yesterday? How about what O&A (and lil Jimmy) were arguing on air today that the show can be just as good during the 3 hours on Free FM?

We'll see what happens...

[Schwapp]

Did you notice that there's not alot of New York, Boston or Philly people bitching about this?

How have you determined this? Me...I lived in North NJ and listened to the show...but the FCC restrictions are tighter now. And I've gotten to see what the freedom of XM gave the boys.

[Hudaphuc Arya]

XM is business. In order for any business to survive it needs to turn a profit. XM has yet to do so (nor has Sirius). If XM is to be around in the future (remember how cable TV used to be only for people who lived in the boonies?), their business model needs to adapt. It has done this continually (free XM receivers = give away the guns to sell the bullets).

This is nothing more than an additional revenue stream for XM (and a way to attract more listeners, hopefully). You think they're giving away this programming to CBS & PBS (Boob Edwards)? You think all the money goes the the O&A program?

No, these bastards are great businessmen. It is, in part, a gamble. Some subscribers may take offense and bail. I, for one will not only continue my subscription(s), I plan on adding more when the Inno is available

[peteg9699]

Agreed.
The tone of show today was "fuck you xm subscribers, haha".
Unbelieveable.

Look at "doesnt get the bit" guy

[getmeajury]

Look at "doesnt get the bit" guy
Mouth breather, read the whole thread

[peteg9699]

Not only that, they claim they're so fucking honest and they take any calls, but what did they do to that Liz chick who was about to make a complaint as an XM listener? They fucking hung up on her and then made fun of her. But they seem to let all the little douchebags through that wanted to kiss their ass.

Fuck em...all they've done for three fucking days is read fucking newspaper articles glorifying their return to commercial radio. We get it, we've heard all the shit already, just do the radio show and shut the fuck up.

Another "doesnt get the bit" guy.....

[peteg9699]

Exactly... and they are going to end up fucking over the east coast listeners because our morning commutes will be full of commercial breaks. Maybe I will luck out and the xm content will re-air on my commute home, but with my luck it isn't likely.

I got XM to listen to O&A. My wife has Sirius and the music channels on Sirius kick XM's ass.

I will give the new new show a shot, but I get the feeling that the XM listener is getting fucked over.

How many commericals did you hear in 5 HOURS on monday on Free FM?

[getmeajury]

How many commericals did you hear in 5 HOURS on monday on Free FM?
There were no commercials because there were no sponsors yet. They said as much.

[askewcore]

How many commericals did you hear in 5 HOURS on monday on Free FM?

They also were only on for two hours.

There's going to be commercials, and eventually, alot of them. No one is trying to get around that but you.

[krunk]

They also were only on for two hours.

There's going to be commercials, and eventually, alot of them. No one is trying to get around that but you.

lots of places cut them off at 10...pretty sure YSP in Philly did

[hillarythegreat]

My pre-paid year of XM isn't up until October, but at that time...squish. Gone.

Thanks for sacrificing your true fans for the good of XM, b-b-boys. I feel like I've been *****: bought a new in-dash XM receiver for my car to hear the boys...it's been good, but year, as others are saying, for those extra two hours of "good" content, I can just download it and listen on my iPod.

Stern still sucks, but O&A are fucking pissing me off. And that show this morning...has Opie's ASSHOLE virus spread to the whole crew?

I fondly remember Opie telling me at Jimmy's Dallas show in 2004 that nothing was yet decided, but he and Anthony felt Sirius was the best company and had the best programming. A few months later, they signed to XM.

Sorry, but I had to say it, you're fucking shit up for us in order to help the company.

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Possibly, just possibly, you wern't a true fan afterall? :action-sm

[askewcore]

Possibly, just possibly, you wern't a true fan afterall? :action-sm

Hmmm....Ya think? :action-sm

[thepza]

OMFG! You don't think I'm a true fan!
/me plans to throw glass dildos at the bbboys during tomorrow's inter-studio march.

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[BitWrecker]

Ummm...fans in the NY area that weren't willing to pay for XM are supposed to be willing to get in a 55 gallon drum?

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...

Had you been listening 5 years ago, contestants were from philly, sacramento, texas, etc etc, when they had contests.

[ern]

Just a comment about commercials. They generally suck. Having said that, XM has tons of commercial (BODOG, half of the computer fixers e.g. plum choice, and other items), and when this deal goes through, XM will probably start adding more commercials to O&A. XM is a business, and advertising makes them lots of money.

For the retarded fans - yes, I know they have to take a break, and that is not the only reason for the commercials.

Besides, how many times have you heard them say that something was "radio gold" (e.g. their long ass intro, and them talking about their NEW days). They even mentioned today that the walk may take awhile -- yes I know, it was tongue in cheek, they want 1 studio, but hey - getting paid for not working--priceless (radio gold)

Having said all this, I am still giving them a chance. A wait and see approach with a very healthy sense of skepticism. and yes, some of you hardcore supporters may need to take the O&A rod out of your orifice and have yourself checked. **needed to pre slam someone, before they post 62 messages telling me I am wrong for not being a true believer**

[forced2register]

A) D) This bitching before the show has even begun is really getting fucking ridiculous.

Yes...you don't hear people complaining about commercial content on the clear channel stations of XM since the commercials on those channels haven't even started. No one is blocking those channels. No one says anything negative about Clear Channel.

No reason to do that early on this issue either!

[BitWrecker]

OMFG! You don't think I'm a true fan!
/me plans to throw glass dildos at the bbboys during tomorrow's inter-studio march.

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Me plans to be hoping club soda Kenny shoves them up your ass

[DrSmith]

I will never give up XM. This move is brilliant. I can still only get O&A on XM, since I don't live in the Free FM cities. Even if they come on in Hartford again, I refuse to go back to regular radio. With XM I can get a signal most anywhere I drive. I don't have to worry about losing the show when I drive home (like I did when I lived on eastern LI back in the day). I can't stand the awful commercials.

Commercials? Oh yes. There are commercials. That's how we all pay for "Free FM." Listening to that crap takes time. Time I can't spare because life is too short and my time is worth way too much at this time.

Plus, I'm a fancy man who needs a fancy radio.

[Bill]

Bill,
I will check, but I'm pretty certain my annual agreement had a cancellation fine associated with it for early termination.


From XM's Service & Subscription page (http://www.xmradio.com/service_subscription/service_subscription.jsp?refsrc=hp_gs), Multi-year service packages section:

No Obligation
Cancel any time and receive a prorated refund of the balance of your remaining subscription.

So, go ahead and cancel. There's nothing forcing you to subscribe. So leave. Who gives a fuck?

Or maybe you just want to jump up and down crying like a fucking baby. "I'm gonna cancel. I'm gonna cancel."

Well, then shut the fuck up and cancel already.

[BitWrecker]

From XM's Service & Subscription page (http://www.xmradio.com/service_subscription/service_subscription.jsp?refsrc=hp_gs), Multi-year service packages section:


So, go ahead and cancel. There's nothing forcing you to subscribe. So leave. Who gives a fuck?

Or maybe you just want to jump up and down crying like a fucking baby. "I'm gonna cancel. I'm gonna cancel."

Well, then shut the fuck up and cancel already.

Good day sir

[TeenBungle]

I totally agree!

E-lo could sell sand to the Arabs.

AND SNOW TO THE ESKIMOS!

[cberth`]

as O&A fans we always compare to the othe big shows on radio:

we are paying for at most 432 hours a year on sat(im not sure how many minutes of commercials they run an hour on satellite--i assumed 6 minutes)

we are receiving 480 hours for free--(i subtracted the 20 minutes of commercials an hour--)

the point is this you are now paying for 432 hours of O&A and stern is providing approximately 840 of uncensored radio---stern fan or O&A fan that is not a great ratio for the boys and XM

[sidisdead]

The boys said for years that regular radio sucked. This move is all about Stern. this is about using his studio, talking to his listeners, sticking it up his ass. They could give a shit about the listeners. Cancel don't cancel does it really matter in the loan run. XM will go on and so will O&A. This is about buying into all they shit they have been throwing around since they went on XM.

And by the why did they have a hole on the radio this morning?

I love O&A but they are full of shit. End of story.

[blacknoi]

I'm just dredding the once again 12 minute commercial breaks and 20 minutes/hour commercial load!!!! granted as an XM subscriber, I'll hear XM infomercials (like "Earth and Sky" , "Personal Finance Minute") and O and A WNEW best ofs, but (FMEDIT) S--- man, I really loved the last 18 months of being able to take my 60+ minute commute and NOT HEAR A SINGLE COMMERCIAL BREAK.... now that listening time will be cut by 1/3 due to the commercial spots of terrestrial radio...

I'm pissed.


On the flip side, O and A really got shown how little the XM audience is compared to the Casual "die hard" O and A fan that didnt get XM radio.

I'm upset and we as XM subscribers will get a 4 hour show but now stretched over 5 to 6 hours (due to commercials)..... but in the end its all about business/$$$$ and I can't argue with their decision.

[Tazznum1]

The Liz phone call summed it up for me. And I got their answer.

Wonder what the deal is with the undisclosed contract? All their honesty and calling people out with taped bits of them contradicting themselves...now they have done the same thing.


That sucks. So now we on XM have a show after the show. Fuck me. :(

~Angry Typing Girl.

[jimmyolsenblues]

I simply did not like the show today.
The show was better on XM alone.
The boys are trying too hard on both, walking from point A to B.
I am sorry, I am not happy about the co-broadcast.

I do feel like I am a "mortgage payment" because I am jipped XM subscriber with 3 purchased radios.

[snakeeyes]

Possibly, just possibly, you wern't a true fan afterall? :action-sm
But wait, all the fans that didnt buy xm were "hardcore faithful listeners" Yet the ones who actually PAID for the service,and some of us that PAID EXTRA for the service in the beggining just to hear the show arent "true fans" because we dont like getting screwd in this deal? WOW. So many of you lack any logic at all.

[Grovite]

the point is this you are now paying for 432 hours of O&A and stern is providing approximately 840 of uncensored radio---stern fan or O&A fan that is not a great ratio for the boys and XM

Let's see, 432 hours of great radio or 840 hours of tired, "Same ol'shit" radio with cuss words...nope, O&A still win out.

Some of you people are unbelievable. This was the FIRST day, the first fucking day! Some of you are coming on here and acting like it's the end of the show, or calling the boys hypocrites for not disclosing their contracts, or, God forbid, taking advantage of this big opportunity despite past statements...just shut up already, it's gotten old real fast.

If you don't like this, or are too stupid to see the potential, then do everyone a favor and stop listening. "This is bullshit! I'm getting rid of my XM!", then fucking do it and quit bitchin'.

...you don't hear people complaining about commercial content on the clear channel stations of XM since the commercials on those channels haven't even started. No one is blocking those channels. No one says anything negative about Clear Channel

That's because nobody is listening to those stations. Nobody blocks them because they are a "non-issue". If anybody listens to the CC stations on XM, their children should be ***** in front of them.

[Dawoz]

Agreed.
The tone of show today was "fuck you xm subscribers, haha".
Unbelieveable.

Exactly the way I felt. I agree with the previous poster, with FreeFM and DirectTv, there's no way I'll continue paying for XM radio.

[ronald'sredlips]

Being from South Carolina the thing I hated the most was the Drive into work, I hated the long breaks all I got was 10 mins of the show and not my regular 45min. That is all. I know "who the fuck cares about South Carolina listners" But I have been listening from the begining. And I know that you guys will say I suck but this has got to have been in the works for some time and they should have thought this out better. I remember when Stern was on vacation for three weeks last year and they played their show in Buffalo. I don't want to hear best off shit, I have heard it all. And if there old stuff is so great why have they not played in the past 18 months. There arew plenty of people out there that could have gotten them their old tapes. And what about OA Virus don't they have old show? I konw it was their frist day, but buy all means CBS and XM let them do their show back to us during the breaks. Any way I know I am not Much but I just had to say this. And I have 4 radio's all for O&A and "sweet tits".

[HockeyHelmet]

A) Those extra two (sometimes three) hours will be more entertaining.

B) You get more than just O&A with XM

C) Its not like XM breaks your bank, and if it does, get a new job.

D) This bitching before the show has even begun is really getting fucking ridiculous.

:clap: :clap: :clap:

The bitching is making my ears bleed, I have 5 subs I pay for, for all the family members, and there all staying active with or without OnA. Anyone who can not see the awsomeness of XM radio should not have XM radio.

Oh BTW, its commercial free music, not commercial free talk!!!!!

[SmellyFingers]

How does Howie provide over 800 hours of radio? Doesn't he take Friday's off?

Also, today was just a "welcome back" show. Once they start talking about the topics of the day in the news and have normal conversation, and start exposing Howie and picking fights with other DJ's, everything will be back to normal. The only difference is the language will be toned down a little bit. Big fucking deal. Then from 9 to 11 (or 12), everything goes. On top of that, more fans will be compelled to buy XM to hear the whole show, and their events, contests, and guests will get more gooder. There are pros and cons to everything. I have a feeling that there will be many more pros than cons. Calmo, calmo.

Over time, if you don't like the show, you can 1) Flush your XM down the toilet. 2)Buy a Sirius 3) Go fuck your mother. Oh yeah, and you can listen to Howard interview strippers 4 days a week and then listen to a replay of the stripper interviews on Friday.

[Dick Upinya]

Nice post HockeyHelmet, i completly agree
XM is a GREAT service, the best playlist available.
O&A are a terrific show, but theres also so much more to XM than O&A.
people who say, they on subscribe to XM is for O&A, is just like the people who say they subscribe to Sirius for Howie, pothetic !

[houston24]

I live in Houston and have cable. So, that means I keep my XM. You all that are bitching? Send you used XM units to me. I will spread the virus in Houston. Some of you are such babies it's sad. Yes, the ones that bitch about me after my post are the ones I am talking about.

[big doodies jim]

D) This bitching before the show has even begun is really getting fucking ridiculous.

How about now that the show has begun, and we can all tell its gonna be BAD!!

[HerpCave]

Since this thread is just a bitch fest, I might as well add to it. Its not the content being uncensored or censored that makes the difference between Free-FM and XM, its the commercial time that is going to screw everything up. O and A stated that they wont broadcast through the commercials to XM because it will screw up the continuity for the Free-FM listeners. So instead everyone has to suffer through a 12 minute break which is breaking up the show and the flow anyway. So instead just screwing up the terrestrials, its screwing up both.
How about on most of the breaks they leave the mics on for the XM audience. they dont have to do a show, but at least we can listen in. I mean that was one of the draws for Paltalk is that they could look in and see what was going on in the studio during breaks.
That and something has to be done to the Free-FM studio. The echoing laughter of whoever is in the studio with them is extremely annoying and hackish.

[Al Killew]

I think you who are thinking this is a bad thing are being a tad overreactive. The best-of shows and clips from the old NEW days will make for awesome entertainment on weekends and after hours.
I am sick of everyone saying this is a big deal. We can download those old WNEW bits any time we would like on OAVirus, and if today is any indication, XM is still going to play clips from the current show during the extended commercial breaks.

[/QUOTE]The CBS show will be bleeped and possibly even some content shifted, hense the delay. The XM experience, 5-6 hours a day, will still BLOW AWAY what the free FM'ers will hear.[/QUOTE]
Please, don't feed us this crap. There is no way that they will continue doing the exact same show and constantly dump out of the CBS program. If you listened to the XM show today after nine, Anthony mentioned to Jim that at one point, he wanted to say something, but he knew that it would not be acceptable on commercial radio. Then he looked at Jim and he knew that hewas thinking the same thing.
On XM, the "uncensored" show will get a few curses (probably from the callers), but the show will be commercial friendly.

[Al Killew]

The Liz phone call summed it up for me. And I got their answer.

Wonder what the deal is with the undisclosed contract? All their honesty and calling people out with taped bits of them contradicting themselves...now they have done the same thing.
Very well said.


[/QUOTE]That sucks. So now we on XM have a show after the show. Fuck me.[/QUOTE]

Didn't Howard do that first on the little doggie company, and didn't the boys bash him for it??? At least their wallets are a little bit fatter.

[ern]

How does Howie provide over 800 hours of radio? Doesn't he take Friday's off?

Also, today was just a "welcome back" show. Once they start talking about the topics of the day in the news and have normal conversation, and start exposing Howie and picking fights with other DJ's, everything will be back to normal. The only difference is the language will be toned down a little bit. Big fucking deal. Then from 9 to 11 (or 12), everything goes. On top of that, more fans will be compelled to buy XM to hear the whole show, and their events, contests, and guests will get more gooder. There are pros and cons to everything. I have a feeling that there will be many more pros than cons. Calmo, calmo.

Over time, if you don't like the show, you can 1) Flush your XM down the toilet. 2)Buy a Sirius 3) Go fuck your mother. Oh yeah, and you can listen to Howard interview strippers 4 days a week and then listen to a replay of the stripper interviews on Friday.

Bravo to Anthony for doing a show sick, I normally call off of work when I am sick. But then again, I hate my job. For all of my reservations about the change, I applaud you sir. Now--


Just to play devil's advocate here, If O&A replay their old NEW bits over and over, will they provide 800 hours of radio?

As for your last paragraph, you may need to add more than three choices. Another choice could be 4) change the channel 5) go post on wackbag 6) call the show with gay ramone ripoff calls -- and finally 7) become a huge IMUS fan and take strange kids to your broke back ranch. Just thought you might need some more choices :action-sm I am getting as tired of being told to flush my XM as you are of hearing people like me state our opinions.

[M.i.S.]

*sigh*

People. You really only have two options here.
1) Listen to the show.
2) Don't listen to the show.

Not only are most of you naysayers going off half cocked about a show that hasn't worked out all the kinks yet, you don't realize that the boys-- JUST LIKE YOU-- want to better their lives and careers and this is the path they chose. Deal with it and support them through it or Shut The Fuck Up and

Flush.

Buy.

Fuck.

That is all.

[mendozathejew]

OMFG! You don't think I'm a true fan!
/me plans to throw glass dildos at the bbboys during tomorrow's inter-studio march.

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youve got 8 posts. you dont sound like a longtime fan either. beat it asshole

[BitWrecker]

Hey Thezpa, guess you couldn't get the dildo's out of your ass long enought to throw them at the boys on the on air walk, or perhaps you have a weak arm. My guess is that all the press and Pests kept your dildo's right where they usually are and you are just talking shit

[SmellyFingers]

M.i.S., well said! As for you Ern, with your uncreative screenname and your 26 posts, I think you would do well to follow the famous three steps, especially #3.
Listen man, I don't have anything against any of the complainers. We're all O and A fans, and this is a change for all of us loyal XMers. My point is to just give it a chance, because this could indeed make the show better. The FM show will be awkward for a little bit until the studio gets finished and they get truly comfortable. Everything will be fine in the end. Remember, O and A are brilliant broadcasters. As well as fancy gentleman.

[Angry_Erock]

Between "Free FM" and Direct TV, why SHOULD I keep XM?

I dig XM but, if I'm being honest, I bought it for O&A not the music. Like I said, I have Direct TV so I can hear O&A and most of the music channels I listen to. Why NOT cancel and save some bucks?

The fact of the matter is... XM is making money off of these deals. I'm sure DirectTV is paying money to broadcast XM content, so is CBS radio. Go ahead and cancel your subscription. Listen to O&A on DirectTV and listen to the censored broadcast on FreeFM. You'll be sorry when you want to hear that uncut XM exclusive content in your car, or away from home.

[Ican'tFight]

I'm guessing that the majority of the people who paid for XM just to hear O&A heard them originally on terrestrial radio. Did they suck back then? Shit no, so relax and just wait until they get used to the CBS studio. The worst part about them going to CBS, is hearing all the assholes call up and say, " Its been four years... welcome back! " Those guys should hung for being so fucking cheap.

[LongRufus]

I'm guessing that the majority of the people who paid for XM just to hear O&A heard them originally on terrestrial radio. Did they suck back then?

No, they didn't suck back then, but the fucking 20 minutes of commercials every hour sure did. Everyone bitched about them, but there weren't any alternatives back then either. We just had to suck it up and deal with them. The 18 months on XM were like gold. 53 straight minutes of brilliantly funny shit, 5 or 6 minutes of commercial break, followed by another 50+ minutes of the show. It was perfect. Now we have to suffer through 20 minutes of show, 9 minutes of commercials or filler, another 20 minutes of live show, more commercials etc. Even though the shit between the commercials is still funny, it fucks up the show we are all used to being great. It's like going from dial up to dsl then back to dial up. You didn't know how bad dialup really was until after you used DSL. And going back to dialup after using dsl makes you want to put a fucking gun in your mouth. Now imagine the dsl company starts sending you shit telling you how much better everything is gonna be now that you are using dialup again and you would fucking lose your mind too. Is all the bitching about the move to CBS going change anything? Does anyone think O&A are going to march into Hollander's office, return the huge bags of cash and resign because their fans on the message boards are upset? Of course not. This is a great deal for O&A, CBS and even XM. Unfortunately, to get the deal done they had to fuck over their XM fans. That's OK, everyone gets fucked over sometime, just allow us our right to bitch about it.

[bonked]

... Now we have to suffer through 20 minutes of show, 9 minutes of commercials or filler, another 20 minutes of live show, more commercials etc. Even though the shit between the commercials is still funny, it fucks up the show we are all used to being great. It's like going from dial up to dsl then back to dial up. You didn't know how bad dialup really was until after you used DSL. And going back to dialup after using dsl makes you want to put a fucking gun in your mouth. ..... That's OK, everyone gets fucked over sometime, just allow us our right to bitch about it.

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Love the analogy, you hit the nail on the head.

Exactly - I never heard the bbboys before XM - I bought XM because I often have long drives on Monday and Friday to get to and from clients, I discovered O and A on XM and at first one of the reasons I liked the show was the fact that they could continue talking about a topic until it was done, not until the clock on the wall told them it was time to pay a bill and therefore break the flow. That is what made the XM show better, and why I listened long enough to get the inside humor etc. I think that more than 95% of the time, my XM is on 202, but I don't think I'm gonna be staying that way - the commercial breaks are already getting annoying("best of" with a music bed - WTF!)

Also, fuck you assholes here that claim to be all about free speech for telling everyone that isn't drinking the fucking Kool-Aid to get the fuck off the platform. A lot of people can't listen to the entire 5 hours, and the fact that the work schedule means that a lot of paying subs are now only able to catch the "commercial radio" portion live - that's a big fuck you to those listeners. Sure, they can catch the replay, but with an interactive show like this, replay isn't always more gooder. Everyone should have the ability to say "I don't like this move, but I still like the boys" without getting trashed for having their own thoughts.

Also, I agree that having to stop themselves from saying things has already watered down the honesty level on the show. I don't need the curses, but I also don't need my entertainers having to constantly second guess their lines.

...and for pete's sake, how about rolling some more R & F out for us E-Lo, since now I can't even catch them during my lunch hour.

[vegasbob]

Between "Free FM" and Direct TV, why SHOULD I keep XM?

I dig XM but, if I'm being honest, I bought it for O&A not the music. Like I said, I have Direct TV so I can hear O&A and most of the music channels I listen to. Why NOT cancel and save some bucks?

dude the music alone on XM is worth that money & sports like ESPN & the Sporting News.

[ern]

M.i.S., well said! As for you Ern, with your uncreative screenname and your 26 posts, I think you would do well to follow the famous three steps, especially #3.
Listen man, I don't have anything against any of the complainers. We're all O and A fans, and this is a change for all of us loyal XMers. My point is to just give it a chance, because this could indeed make the show better. The FM show will be awkward for a little bit until the studio gets finished and they get truly comfortable. Everything will be fine in the end. Remember, O and A are brilliant broadcasters. As well as fancy gentleman.

sorry for not naming myself a someone's bag, hog, or box, I wouldn't do it in real life and I won't do it online either. Sure your right, I could have spent time coming up with something really imaginative, but I went for simple, easy to remember, and short to type in. As far as posting goes, i read wackbag posts for almost 6 months before I ever posted. I find some of the posters here to be extremely funny, and others to be quite juvenile. The only reason I have this many posts now is because the O&A issues became interesting. Other than that, most of my posts were about R&F and this isn't THEIR site. If numbers are that important, I guess I should become a post whore, bump a thousand messages, post two or three word messages, and then I would be relly impotent. And thanks for the advice on number three, I'll call and see if she is interested.

[Patti's_Glasses]

i am nobodies hog ;)

[PestCoast]

C) Its not like XM breaks your bank, and if it does, get a new job.

My sentiments exactly.

How can anybody paying $50-100 per month for DirecTV complain about $13/mo for XM? Methinks if you are too poor to afford XM you should really think about forfeiting premium TV service as that is putting a much larger dent in your pocketbook.

[abudabit]

My sentiments exactly.

How can anybody paying $50-100 per month for DirecTV complain about $13/mo for XM? Methinks if you are too poor to afford XM you should really think about forfeiting premium TV service as that is putting a much larger dent in your pocketbook.

We can afford the sub, the question is - is it worth it? People don't like getting lied to. If you sign up with the expectation that you will get 4 hours of almost commercial free uncensored O&A and then over time they take that away more and more - many people would cancel just on the principal of it. It isn't the $13 a month, it is the $13 a month for a declining product. Eventually you have to punatively cancel if they push you too far.

[abudabit]

I'm guessing that the majority of the people who paid for XM just to hear O&A heard them originally on terrestrial radio. Did they suck back then? Shit no, so relax and just wait until they get used to the CBS studio. The worst part about them going to CBS, is hearing all the assholes call up and say, " Its been four years... welcome back! " Those guys should hung for being so fucking cheap.

If you pay for a service you should get higher quality than if you get it for free. If it cost money to listen to O&A back then I sure as shit wouldn't have paid.

When O&A first joined XM, I was paying for 4 hours of almost commercial free show uncensored. Now I get 2 hours of commercial free show uncensored - if I could pay $6 for my current sub (since I'm only getting half the content value) I wouldn't feel ripped off.

[ern]

abudabit

Love your pic, reminds me of the guy holding the sign at the feminist rally that said Iron my shirt bitch.

[Schwapp]

My sentiments exactly.

How can anybody paying $50-100 per month for DirecTV complain about $13/mo for XM? Methinks if you are too poor to afford XM you should really think about forfeiting premium TV service as that is putting a much larger dent in your pocketbook.

That's at least mildly retarded. Not everyone spends multiple hours a day in their car (which is where a majority of the XM units are), but most get to spend multiple hours a day in their house...with all the different forms of entertainment involved with a premium TV package.