Free FM vs. XM After One Day

[Bill Lehecka]

Yes, it's one day, and yes, I'm giving it a few weeks, but I still wanted to post after the first day.

The Free FM one sounded guarded and cautious. I'm sure it'll get rolling when familiarity sets in.

The show's turning point was the walkover. Everything after that seemed to change. The mood, the energy, it was a more exciting listen. And today's ending was fucking priceless. It's amazing how when the restrictions are removed, things just seemed to flow a lot better.

Like I said, I'm still giving this time.

[khemystri]

two words.....

tender sentiments

[thadeusgman]

we should give caddie jim a proper gift basket.

[AngryFetus]

THEY JUST DID THE PATTY THING SO WE COULD THINK THEY ARE STILL EDGY WHEN REALLY THEY ALWAYS JUST GO FOR THE MONEY.

Thank you thank you. That is my new bit. I call him Angry Typing Guy That is Unhappy with the New Move. I love it. Someday I will do another 'voice'
Speaking of voices...

[jimmyolsenblues]

I simply did not like the show today.
The show was better on XM alone.
The boys are trying too hard on both, walking from point A to B.
I am sorry, I am not happy about the co-broadcast.

I do feel like I am a "mortgage payment" because I am jipped XM subscriber with 3 purchased radios

[Brady T cell]

I love it. It makes me glad that I have my XM. The Free FM people don't know what they are missing. The extra hours are awesome too. Now, I'll be a happy working slob from 6-12 everyday.

I still laugh at the people who are so upset. Man up and give them time to sort things out.

[montego]

i enjoyed hearing them on free-fm this morning....i think it will workout and i am happy they get their old archives back.....there is a lot of shit in those WNEW archives that is radio gold.......

[MikeBerry1129]

I loved the free radio today, being in Boston made me miss them more than anything. Purchasing XM soon to hear them 24/7.

[mainemoron]

don't bother to reply and tell me i'm a douche....i know i am, but i have to say that, today, my drive to work sucked....i found myself thinking that the show was not going to be the same...the 10 minute breaks every time you turned around were unbearable...the bits that ran were horrible...the 5 minute standup bit by someone i didn't know was funny for a minute, but not for 5, and then to go into five more minutes of promos and cheesy xm commercials. it may have been the first day, but you never get a second chance to make a first impression....i think they needed to think thru the breaks, to make sure they were stellar...they should've been some of the filthiest, funniest stuff that would NEVER get on terrestrial radio, so we'd feel like we were still part of the club....and i used to be able to listen to the last hour of the show on my drive home at night...now i'm gonna get fucked on that deal, and will hear the last hour of the free show instead...i guess my life is pathetic if something like this ruins my day...but yeah, it pretty much is.

the stuff that ran was not good. i got xm in september of last year for my birthday, and have listened every day since. it made my unbearable commute bearable...i became a HUGE fan...i still love 'em, but when they kept saying don't worry, trust us, it'll be fine...i was afraid they were trying to convince themselves, more than us...i'll still listen, but it won't be the same.

[NotYouStupid]

I thought it was a good show... The Xm show was pure gold. The FM has it's kinks but they will be worked out. You gotta give them at least a week or two... It will all come around.

EDIT<--- Welcome to the board buddy!!

[Pete from CT]

I loved the free radio today, being in Boston made me miss them more than anything. Purchasing XM soon to hear them 24/7.

Please read this post over and over, fellow Wackbaggers. THIS is the desired effect. :icon_lol:

[Coffee Diva]

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[CoatHngrReject]

I stand by what I said in the other post...

really hope this stuff picks up within the next two weeks. It is depressing hearing the boys hold back and turn into Free FM douches. I have my doubts regarding taking two weeks, cause their first show on XM was honest, funny, and still entertaining. And for those that state the obvious- the boys were great on WNEW because they were PUSHING THE ENVELOPE. Now, they are on Free FM w/o an incentive to push the envelope because they have the XM show. It's safe radio, because it can be.

There is no mistaking that both during the initial test run in Syracuse and today- the boys sound held back, bored, and are less entertaining. Not only that, but these fucking commercial breaks are preventing them from catching their groove. They don't have the 1 1/2 hours to dive into things like they are used to.

I can't wait til 9am. I guess I wont have to worry about finding time to listen to 5-6 hours of show. It'll be more worthwhile listening to the XM broadcast.

CBS should have just run an hour later (7-10) and basically made an almost "Live best of" each day w/ commercials... instead of penalizing those of us that were dedicated enough to follow the boys to XM.


Dont get me wrong guys- I don't fault the boys.

They deserve the recognition, success and money. And lets face it, hoo hoo's probably pissed. I see both sides of this, and I hope it is just a case of "this is not what I'm used to"...

I just don't know if losing two hours of good radio (pre-fm) is worth exchanging for 2 hours of "after party", 2 hours of bland mediocrity and an hour of commercials.

I also think a bad day on XM is better than a bad day of FM... because there is an underlying honesty that is automatically entertaining. Artistically, this IS a huge step back for them. They've been evolving and growing with experience, and this is like going back 5 years. This isn't the 2006 boys.

[mainemoron]

thanks for the welcome...my first post and i popped as soon as i hit the sheets...

Total Douchebag....sorry everyone....

I did radio for 30 years - and these guys are gold...i'm just bummin' hard.

:action-sm

[hillarythegreat]

Did they ever get the commercial breaks figured out yet? I hear they were playing commerials from CBS which says they had some problems in playing the old bits.

I haven't heard the show yet.

[AJellyDonut]

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[cigarsandscotch]

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa, this is not what I'm used to. :cry3: .

[mascan42]

A lot of stuff needs to be worked out still. IMHO, though, this whole thing would work so much better if they gave up on the two-studio thing and just gave CBS the XM feed on a long delay.

[AngryFetus]

A lot of stuff needs to be worked out still. IMHO, though, this whole thing would work so much better if they gave up on the two-studio thing and just gave CBS the XM feed on a long delay.

CBS wanted them to do the two studio thing, because they wanted the bbboys to have a non cursing studio. Less slip ups i guess?

[CrisReevsHorse]

don't bother to reply and tell me i'm a douche....i know i am, but i have to say that, today, my drive to work sucked....i found myself thinking that the show was not going to be the same...the 10 minute breaks every time you turned around were unbearable...the bits that ran were horrible...the 5 minute standup bit by someone i didn't know was funny for a minute, but not for 5, and then to go into five more minutes of promos and cheesy xm commercials. it may have been the first day, but you never get a second chance to make a first impression....i think they needed to think thru the breaks, to make sure they were stellar...they should've been some of the filthiest, funniest stuff that would NEVER get on terrestrial radio, so we'd feel like we were still part of the club....and i used to be able to listen to the last hour of the show on my drive home at night...now i'm gonna get fucked on that deal, and will hear the last hour of the free show instead...i guess my life is pathetic if something like this ruins my day...but yeah, it pretty much is.

the stuff that ran was not good. i got xm in september of last year for my birthday, and have listened every day since. it made my unbearable commute bearable...i became a HUGE fan...i still love 'em, but when they kept saying don't worry, trust us, it'll be fine...i was afraid they were trying to convince themselves, more than us...i'll still listen, but it won't be the same.

i'm with ya brother. i thought the show sucked for my commute, especially that i am in my office by 9am so i won't get the good stuff until the replay drive home (which is the saving grace). i don't want to rush to judgement but if this keeps up for 2 weeks the boys are in for some trouble w/ the pests turning on them. i'm trying to keep the faith though.

[willis]

A lot of stuff needs to be worked out still. IMHO, though, this whole thing would work so much better if they gave up on the two-studio thing and just gave CBS the XM feed on a long delay.

Exactly. My impressions of the first day, are that as much as opie was yapping monday about THIS BEING THE MOVE compared to stern leaving and not staying on both.. blah blah blah.

In theory, that's right. Being on xm, and being simulcast to cbs-fm and having them deal with dumping what they need to dump is the move. Even in that setup, you can stop cursing (abc game FTW) and still satisfy the xm audience and the fcc..

This deal that they got of two studios, two different shows, two different everything is not THE MOVE. If cbs wouldn't give them the deal that allows for flow between both audiences, and not some gayass "walk this way" bullshit, then cbs should have been told to fuck off until another company realized what they needed to do.

ughh.. 60 minutes of breaks in a 3 hour show.. fucking gay.. I caught the show from 6-9 this morning, driving in to work and then driving to class.. missed all of the 9-11 show and caught from 11:18 - 11:28.. I laughed more during those 10 minutes than I did all morning on the "freeFM" suckass bullshit..

and i'll look forward to not hearing anything about the next pat o'brien sex tapes, or if sexbagel ever gets laid by a pr0n star again.. because those are two off the top of my head xm moments that would never make it on cbs-fm (hello love!!!).. Think back over all the times in the past 18 months the boys have said "man, bits like this are why we're so glad to not be on commercial anymore" and realize that majority of those are now gone.

[paintthetaint]

maybe we can all relax. Their first days of xm wasnt pretty either. Find some other things to worry about.

[willis]

maybe we can all relax. Their first days of xm wasnt pretty either. Find some other things to worry about.


what fun would that be??

This thread is for post day 1 bitching.. I like being angry, and I like bitching..



















































and i'm looking forward to bumping this thread a month from now when I sound like a giant asshole since they figured out a way to make it work (read as: tell cbs to fuck off they're doing the show from one studio)

[BuffaloTom]

They have got to get rid of the commercial radio lenth commercials that take place during the morning commute to work. I can't believe I have XM radio and will have 25 minutes of commercials on my hour drive to work every day.

[Garyisajoke]

the boys had zero energy by 10:30... it sounded like the end of the Howard Stern Show when he was at KRock when Robin does the news and had a real slow, lethargic vibe and just seemed like a formality/waste of time. is this what i can expect from my "extra hour?" although Ant was sick and i'm sure that's what was going on there.

[Brady T cell]

and i'll look forward to not hearing anything about the next pat o'brien sex tapes, or if sexbagel ever gets laid by a pr0n star again.. because those are two off the top of my head xm moments that would never make it on cbs-fm (hello love!!!).. Think back over all the times in the past 18 months the boys have said "man, bits like this are why we're so glad to not be on commercial anymore" and realize that majority of those are now gone.

How are they gone? They can still do the best stuff from 9-12. The clincher of this whole deal is whenever they talk on Free FM about the awesome and crazy stuff they are doing on XM. That will drive subs up.

[willis]

They have got to get rid of the commercial radio lenth commercials that take place during the morning commute to work. I can't believe I have XM radio and will have 25 minutes of commercials on my hour drive to work every day.


all the commercial breaks were around 10 minutes today..

granted that's with freeFM "not selling commercials for the past 4 months, so they don't have any".. but still 10 is not 25 (although 10 is still unacceptable)

[willis]

How are they gone? They can still do the best stuff from 9-12. The clincher of this whole deal is whenever they talk on Free FM about the awesome and crazy stuff they are doing on XM. That will drive subs up.

You're right.. they can do the crazy stuff from 9-11 (they're not broadcasting till 12 every day.. you know this)..

but doing that just accentuates the difference between the two shows, and kills any flow between them.. it makes the xm show o&a's version of the E show, which is definitely not worth being on a pay per view channel (hoo hoo nobody watches me Rooobin)

[BullsLawDan]

to make this work for their fans they need to go to Joel Hollander and say the following:

Joel,
Fuck the two studio bullshit. We are going to XM and we are going to do our show from 6-11. You can air as much as you want, and be happy because even if you end up dumping out of our show so much the listeners think we are stutterers with amnesia, we will still nuke DLR's .000001 rating. We will take breaks when we want to, which is never unless Jimmy has to shit. Every time CBS has to break for commercials, we will air a 5 second bump that says "to be continued on XM for all the listeners that gave a shit and paid our bills for 18 months while commercial radio avoided us like the plague".

Until they do that, continue bitching.

Just a thought: We need a code word for when XM listeners call in, something that is insulting to the "Free" listeners but they won't know it.

[DaCooknGy]

I picked up XM Radio specifically for O&A back in December. Living in a less than small market we had no O&A or Howard. The only thing I knew about them was what I heard on the Don & Mike show which is the only show we get of this type. Still I was dissapointed to hear that the boys would be splitting their time between Free FM and XM. I figured something had to suffer out of the deal. Being that I was paying for XM I sort of took it as a slap in the face to the paying customers. I'm betting others did too. I gotta be honest I didn't find the first show to be bad. You folks have been listening a lot longer than I have but from a relatively new listener I didn't notice a drop off in performance. The one thing that will turn me off to the XM show is if it becomes a post mortem for the Free FM show. That would suck to the point of canceling my subscription.

[Joeycasz]

I agree. I would listen to the show on my drive to work from 7am to 8am or later due to traffic. Then i would listen to them on my drive home from 4pm to 5pm or later due to traffic. My 4pm commute is basically the 8am time stop for me so i picked exactly where i left off. This morning was awful. 15 minutes of show to 10 minutes of commercials. Again, i agree it's day one and they will hopefully fix this. I will give them a few weeks.

[HockeyHelmet]

Yes, it's one day, and yes, I'm giving it a few weeks, but I still wanted to post after the first day.

The Free FM one sounded guarded and cautious. I'm sure it'll get rolling when familiarity sets in.

The show's turning point was the walkover. Everything after that seemed to change. The mood, the energy, it was a more exciting listen. And today's ending was fucking priceless. It's amazing how when the restrictions are removed, things just seemed to flow a lot better.

Like I said, I'm still giving this time.

Good, because I was getting worried.

[sidisdead]

Exactly. My impressions of the first day, are that as much as opie was yapping monday about THIS BEING THE MOVE compared to stern leaving and not staying on both.. blah blah blah.

In theory, that's right. Being on xm, and being simulcast to cbs-fm and having them deal with dumping what they need to dump is the move. Even in that setup, you can stop cursing (abc game FTW) and still satisfy the xm audience and the fcc..

This deal that they got of two studios, two different shows, two different everything is not THE MOVE. If cbs wouldn't give them the deal that allows for flow between both audiences, and not some gayass "walk this way" bullshit, then cbs should have been told to fuck off until another company realized what they needed to do.

ughh.. 60 minutes of breaks in a 3 hour show.. fucking gay.. I caught the show from 6-9 this morning, driving in to work and then driving to class.. missed all of the 9-11 show and caught from 11:18 - 11:28.. I laughed more during those 10 minutes than I did all morning on the "freeFM" suckass bullshit..

and i'll look forward to not hearing anything about the next pat o'brien sex tapes, or if sexbagel ever gets laid by a pr0n star again.. because those are two off the top of my head xm moments that would never make it on cbs-fm (hello love!!!).. Think back over all the times in the past 18 months the boys have said "man, bits like this are why we're so glad to not be on commercial anymore" and realize that majority of those are now gone.

This is what we have been trying to say.:clap:

They gave us just enough to keep us paying. This was very well thought out. The last thing they want is all of the XM subs to start cancelling. So they gave us just enough to keep us around for a while. This deal sucks. Why do we have to listen to all this shit during breaks. I don't want to listen to a bunch of Best OF all the time. I am a long time listener from WNEW and they cold never so the show they did then now.

I understand about giving them a chance, but they really stuck it to us. Think back on all the things they did they could never be on Free FM. This format take's away the Boys being spontanious. talking off the top of their head. Things will be much more planned out. Getting away from what Opie says is one of the best things about the show.

This was about sticking it to Stern, using his old studio, taking over his spot.

I hear there is a Soprano's movie coming out, half of it's going to be on CBS TV and the other half in Theaters. :icon_evil

[ellatino1]

I love the fact that they are now on FM and XM. Not because of the lack of cursing and the not so wacky stuff that they give to FM, but because there is an extra 1 to 2 hours of the boys on the air now.

Just like with anything else, everyone will have to get used to the change. So as many of people have already said, give it time and you'll like what you get. Calmo, Calmo. The walk to the XM studio may be a temporary fix until the show gets enough power to do it all from one studio. And even if it isn't, 5 minutes of walking audio is worth the 2 hours more of great O&A.

The only question I have is what will the full week's schedule look like now that there is 6 hours of the show on 202?

I saw the Monday through Friday schedule on O&A.com, but I'm wondering about the weekend schedule.

[HockeyHelmet]

Im sorry but they would have done the same stuff at WNEW, so I don't see how any of that will change down the road. They just can't SAY exactly what they are doing. But they will get the point across.

[Garyisajoke]

Opie from a few months ago: "Free-FM: You get what you pay for..."

But now we're actually paying 12 bucks a month. I can't believe there isn't solidarity among Wackbaggers against this.

[Coffee Diva]

The solution is simple.

Get a couple of standard, free-range NYC mice. Release them in the WFNY studio, and leave some food on the console. The next morning, the console will be covered with mouse droppings, Ant's OCD will kick in and he will demand to be able to do the entire show from XM.

[BullsLawDan]

I'm not a negative nelly as far as the show's quality goes. I don't really care about the cursing, it doesn't matter to me. My problem is the FUCKING COMMERCIALS.
I AM NOT PAYING TO HEAR COMMERCIALS AND BEST-OF. Figure out the fucking commercial situation boys, and get it back to where it was when it was only XM, or the XM listeners will be leaving in a hurry. O&A keep talking about "eventually the pests will turn on us..." The pests all have XM. The pests will not tolerate paying for the ridiculous amount of commercials on CBS.

"But they play worst-of and great bits from the old days during the breaks..."
Fuck worst-of. Fuck the old bits. If reruns are so great why doesn't NBC just show old episodes of The Cosby Show on Thursday nights at 8 and get their "must-see-tv" back? I'm not paying for reruns.

"But they are starting at 6 and going till almost 12 now, so really you get more show"
Do I? That does no good for the people like me (the vast majority of us - people with work/school) who can only listen during certain windows of the day. Yes, if I could sit by my radio for 6 hours a day, I would be okay. But I can't. I take my son to daycare at 7:30 and can only listen until I park my car in front of school at 9:15. Then, on the way home, I pick up another hour, and another hour at night. If i can only listen to a certain 3 hour period during the day, it doesn't matter to me if the show is those three hours or 10 hours long - it's the PERCENTAGE of commercial time as a part of LIMITED LISTENING TIME.

Again - love the show, not concerned at all about the content/energy/sellout etc, VERY concerned about 25 minutes of commercials per hour, which is just about what they had from 7:40-8:40 or so today.

[Garyisajoke]

I'm not a negative nelly as far as the show's quality goes. I don't really care about the cursing, it doesn't matter to me. My problem is the FUCKING COMMERCIALS.
I AM NOT PAYING TO HEAR COMMERCIALS AND BEST-OF. Figure out the fucking commercial situation boys, and get it back to where it was when it was only XM, or the XM listeners will be leaving in a hurry. O&A keep talking about "eventually the pests will turn on us..." The pests all have XM. The pests will not tolerate paying for the ridiculous amount of commercials on CBS.

"But they play worst-of and great bits from the old days during the breaks..."
Fuck worst-of. Fuck the old bits. If reruns are so great why doesn't NBC just show old episodes of The Cosby Show on Thursday nights at 8 and get their "must-see-tv" back? I'm not paying for reruns.

"But they are starting at 6 and going till almost 12 now, so really you get more show"
Do I? That does no good for the people like me (the vast majority of us - people with work/school) who can only listen during certain windows of the day. Yes, if I could sit by my radio for 6 hours a day, I would be okay. But I can't. I take my son to daycare at 7:30 and can only listen until I park my car in front of school at 9:15. Then, on the way home, I pick up another hour, and another hour at night. If i can only listen to a certain 3 hour period during the day, it doesn't matter to me if the show is those three hours or 10 hours long - it's the PERCENTAGE of commercial time as a part of LIMITED LISTENING TIME.

Again - love the show, not concerned at all about the content/energy/sellout etc, VERY concerned about 25 minutes of commercials per hour, which is just about what they had from 7:40-8:40 or so today.


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Throw in something about Ron and Fez getting screwed and you know how a lot of us feel.

[sidisdead]

I'm not a negative nelly as far as the show's quality goes. I don't really care about the cursing, it doesn't matter to me. My problem is the FUCKING COMMERCIALS.
I AM NOT PAYING TO HEAR COMMERCIALS AND BEST-OF. Figure out the fucking commercial situation boys, and get it back to where it was when it was only XM, or the XM listeners will be leaving in a hurry. O&A keep talking about "eventually the pests will turn on us..." The pests all have XM. The pests will not tolerate paying for the ridiculous amount of commercials on CBS.

"But they play worst-of and great bits from the old days during the breaks..."
Fuck worst-of. Fuck the old bits. If reruns are so great why doesn't NBC just show old episodes of The Cosby Show on Thursday nights at 8 and get their "must-see-tv" back? I'm not paying for reruns.

"But they are starting at 6 and going till almost 12 now, so really you get more show"
Do I? That does no good for the people like me (the vast majority of us - people with work/school) who can only listen during certain windows of the day. Yes, if I could sit by my radio for 6 hours a day, I would be okay. But I can't. I take my son to daycare at 7:30 and can only listen until I park my car in front of school at 9:15. Then, on the way home, I pick up another hour, and another hour at night. If i can only listen to a certain 3 hour period during the day, it doesn't matter to me if the show is those three hours or 10 hours long - it's the PERCENTAGE of commercial time as a part of LIMITED LISTENING TIME.

Again - love the show, not concerned at all about the content/energy/sellout etc, VERY concerned about 25 minutes of commercials per hour, which is just about what they had from 7:40-8:40 or so today.

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Thank You it's the breaks and commercials. I love O&A they make me laugh and help the drive to work.:action-sm :action-sm

[niklbag]

Opie from a few months ago: "Free-FM: You get what you pay for..."

But now we're actually paying 12 bucks a month. I can't believe there isn't solidarity among Wackbaggers against this.


Im fucking furious too your not the only one. We must be fucking stupid. Free-fm costs us money.

[BullsLawDan]

...my rant...

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Throw in something about Ron and Fez getting screwed and you know how a lot of us feel.

errr, yeah. AND Ron & Fez are getting screwed!!! Something Like That!!!

[Crebmonsta1980]

In my honest opinion, I feel that no matter how bad their FM show gets, it will never be as bad as that moron Hoo Hoo. I got XM to listen to Opie and Anthony, I am going to stick by them....NO MATTER WHAT!

[sidisdead]

In my honest opinion, I feel that no matter how bad their FM show gets, it will never be as bad as that moron Hoo Hoo. I got XM to listen to Opie and Anthony, I am going to stick by them....NO MATTER WHAT!


It's not about not stick with them it's abnout what right and what's fucked up. We the people that pay for XM don't want to hear a bunch of Best of or Old Bits. It's the commercials that are really bugging us. This is not more gooder.:action-sm

[us1087]

Old Commute--35 minutes of pure enjoyment that included naughty words and maybe one very short break.

New Commute--2 ten min commerical breaks and a bunch of best of. One segment that was interview with Cathloic League guy

The new commute stinks and I don't like it one bit. As the show gets bigger the commericals will get worse. Tell me again how I am getting more show?

This is my opinion and if you don't like it, fuck off. Don't tell me to turn the station or flush my XM down the toilet. I am a huge fan and will give the new show a chance but after today I already miss my old XM O&A.

[Ben's Bulge]

I really am trying not to be negative about this, but it is hard not to feel like I'm getting shafted when I'm paying for something I can get for free.

[Garyisajoke]

oh... but now they'll be able to get better guests.. because they're such great interviewers. and now more people will show up for American Mess... because that's such a great bit.

i like the show because of the dynamic between Opie, Anthony and Jimmy and the ability to say whatever they want and not PUSSYFOOT around any topic. that and no commercials.

[sidisdead]

Can someone that can start a thread start one about the commercial breaks. in hope that the boys will read it and do something. This board is all about the pest making thing happen. We want them to be bigger and better but please they are killing us with the breaks and it will only get worse.

[PSUBren9]

I got XM to listen to Opie and Anthony, I am going to stick by them....NO MATTER WHAT!
Well... they're not exactly sticking by you... are they?

More commercials per hour, no flow today, maybe they'll get that worked out, but I can't see how, since we all know ad sales will be up very soon. The replay schedule is what really fucks me! I get in my car at 7, listen to 8:30, work, back in car at 4:30, pick up exactly where I left off and in car till 6. I had 3 hours of show, w/ XM commercials that I could cache out with the SkiFi2. Now, I get garbage Free FM that I can get on YSP for free, and at 4:30, I get the 7:30 - 9:00 replay, an hour of which I heard in the morning! Plus, the cache runs out after 30 minutes of commercials. Now I get LESS show for my money.

XM - 3 hours of show - 20 - 30 minutes commercials
Free FM - 2 hours of show - 35 - 40 minutes of commercials

How exactly is this BETTER? Why am I paying for this? All I'll miss is the 1/2 hour of Free FM from 8:30 to 9:00... not exactly worth the money....
Better??? I think not....

[stvdabear]

Leave it be like John Lennen, dead

[Tree Crackhead]

All good things come to an end. It was fun while it lasted. I'm giving the boys a few weeks too, but I don't know if I'll even be able to make it. They got what they wanted, and the hardcore fans got screwed. I hope the boys are enjoying the extra fame and money.

[HowardsYamBag]

I simply did not like the show today.
The show was better on XM alone.
The boys are trying too hard on both, walking from point A to B.
I am sorry, I am not happy about the co-broadcast.

I do feel like I am a "mortgage payment" because I am jipped XM subscriber with 3 purchased radios

Nigga please.

You paid for XM to get 4 hours of material a day.

Now you get 6 hours for the same price.

It is so funny to see the whacko fans start crying and complaining that they are getting more for their money. I guess that some people just cannot handle change.

[Garyisajoke]

Nigga please.

You paid for XM to get 4 hours of material a day.

Now you get 6 hours for the same price.

It is so funny to see the whacko fans start crying and complaining that they are getting more for their money. I guess that some people just cannot handle change.

We paid under the premise of "uncensored" radio. How did you enjoy those commercial breaks, by the way? To reiterate a past post, Opie himself summed up FreeFm saying, "You get what you pay for."

We're still paying 12 bucks but we're getting FreeFM. Fair?

[hillarythegreat]

We paid under the premise of "uncensored" radio. How did you enjoy those commercial breaks, by the way? To reiterate a past post, Opie himself summed up FreeFm saying, "You get what you pay for."

We're still paying 12 bucks but we're getting FreeFM. Fair?
You are paying 12 bucks a month for 170 channels on XM, 202 is one of those channels. Get it straight.

[HowardsYamBag]

Douche... You still get uncensored radio. But now you get some censored as well, *in addition to* what you already had.

I laughed my ass off when they were on WNEW. In fact, 99% of us went to XM based on their performance on CENSORED RADIO.

So what's the difference? Now I get *both*, and any O&A, is *good* O&A.

If it bothers you that much, go back to Hoohoo.

[Harvey_Birdman]

The commercial breaks are radio cancer. My commute, like so many others above, was crap.

[Tree Crackhead]

Complaining about the change has NOTHING TO DO WITH HOO HOO. I would bet my life that their terrestrial show will be 10 X better than HOO HOO's show, but that doesn't mean it will be better than the 4 hour, uncensored XM show.

[HowardsYamBag]

Dude, give them a few weeks to get the formula down. XM202 has commercial breaks as well.

This past Saturday, I actually turned off 202 for the first time in months. When they hit the 17th commercial in a row, I lost patience and went to Lucy.

It's how it is.

[Motor Head]

I got XM when I bought my Chevy Avalanche back in July of 2005. While on vacation, I flipped to 202, and was hooked on the O&A show. I bought a SkyFi2 for my house, and never miss a show. The only O&A show I know is from XM. I want my 4 hours of uncensored XM202.

I paid hard earned $$$ to hear the O&A show, not this fucking FM/XM bullshit. Right now I feel cheated. Now I've heard that they may only broadcast 2 hours of uncensored after the 3 hours of FCC regulated commercial infested shit FM??

XM....you really fucked up letting this happen. It may just cost you both of my subs. I love O&A and lil Jimmy, but I want my 4 hours uncensored.

[HowardsYamBag]

Complaining about the change has NOTHING TO DO WITH HOO HOO. I would bet my life that their terrestrial show will be 10 X better than HOO HOO's show, but that doesn't mean it will be better than the 4 hour, uncensored XM show.

Dude, look at how many complainers have <20 posts on the forum. Most of them are new, and so it is very likely that they are not even XM fans.

I suspenct half of them of being Stern fans just trying to mix things up.

The fact is, it's their show, their careers, not yours. We are just some asshats posting in a forum. In the end, we get 6 hours of O&A a day, minus commercials. Before we got 4 hours a day minus breaks and commercials.

We are in fat getting more for our money.

[badcellphoneguy]

HOLY SHIT GUYS YOU GOT AN UNCENSORED SHOW TODAY ON XM! just to let you know that today's show they got dumped about 3 times. Congrats to those with xm that heard it. sheesh enough is enough stop your belly aching.

[HowardsYamBag]

This reminds me of the "hip guy" that is into his own private band, and gets mad when they make it big and everyone starts listening to them.

O&A are not here to entertain *you*. Their job is to increase the audience and increase ratings. For every person that leaves, 10 will take their place with this new move.

And let's face it, you are not going to cancel your sub. You won't stop listening unless you were never a real fan to begin with.

[TeenBungle]

well just remember if they continue to do shows on freefm like they did today, they wont be around for very long on FM. i was embarrassed that im a fan during the fm show. i was embarrassed for ppl to know that i am hardcore fan of O and A during the fm show. they werent clever, (for god sakes how many LOL jokes, "Yecks" sounds did they make, and random unclever aids jokes did they make.) nor were they entertaining. lets not even discuss the "walk this way" hoakiness. maybe they can get their groove tho. but if their show continues to be as sloppy and unfunny as it was today, they wont be getting big ratings.

[HowardsYamBag]

HOLY SHIT GUYS YOU GOT AN UNCENSORED SHOW TODAY ON XM! just to let you know that today's show they got dumped about 3 times. Congrats to those with xm that heard it. sheesh enough is enough stop your belly aching.

Excellent point! We get the unedited feed, so if they curse or say something off the wall, we get to hear it on XM.

[HowardsYamBag]

well just remember if they continue to do shows on freefm like they did today, they wont be around for very long on FM. i was embarrassed and was cringing that i was a fan. i was embarrassed for ppl to know that i am hardcore fan of O and A during the fm show. maybe they can get their groove tho. but if there show is as sloppy and unfunny they wont be a hit and will be dropped.

IT's THEIR FIRST FUCKING DAY ON THE JOB.

What a bunch of whiney cunts.

When have they ever not been a hit? When have they ever failed due to poor ratings? The only failures were when they went too far and got fired.

Sweet Jeebus, give the guys some credit.

[Chichomang]

Today sucked. Tomorrow...

[Chin nuts]

I say we take up a collection for all the poor unhappy saps who feel ripped-off. Things change, I'm not happy about that fact but I trust the boys. My god, give it some time the boys will figure it out, they always have they always will. If you consider yourselves fans of the show then you owe them atleast that.

Now to stick some hot needles into my eyes.

[Tree Crackhead]

The fact is, it's their show, their careers, not yours. We are just some asshats posting in a forum. In the end, we get 6 hours of O&A a day, minus commercials. Before we got 4 hours a day minus breaks and commercials.


Agreed. The boys did what's best for them. I guess I can't blame them for that.


We are in fat getting more for our money.


That's up for debate. I don't feel as you do, and I'm basing my opinion on "getting what I pay for" on QUALITY, not QUANTITY.

And regarding the posters w/ less than 20 posts (myself included), I can only speak for myself, but I assume this applies to many other posters. I simply don't have the time to be a regular poster on wackbag (although I read through the posts all the time), and since the show has been GREAT lately, I had nothing to post/complain about. Many people are quiet when they are content, but speak up to voice frustrations when things go wrong. Well, many of us feel things ARE going wrong. The next few weeks will be very telling, but I just can't see how this show will be BETTER THAN THE UNCENSORED XM show. Of course it will be better than HOO HOO's show, but is that really saying anything?

[us1087]

[QUOTE=HowardsYamBag]Dude, give them a few weeks to get the formula down. XM202 has commercial breaks as well.

XM 202 doesnt have 10 minutes of commercials three times an hour. When they have 10 minutes or more of commericals its because they went for an hour or longer without stopping.


Hoo-hoo fans just trying to mix it up? That's a lame excuse.

[HowardsYamBag]

Again, when have the boys ever flopped? Gotten fired, yes. But actually failed?

To my knowledge, it has not happened, and I trust that they wilkl do what they always do... succeed. Take a first few steps to get their bearings and then build steam.

They have done this for years. When they came to XM, they were a little more careful than they are now, because management was nervous.

They are not going to go in the first day, guns blazing, blow up this opportunity just to make you happy for a day.

They have a chance to gain huge marketshare, pummel Stern and drive up XM subs, as people will hear the free show and decide to give XM a shot for more show and better music, etc...

[Chichomang]

I only joined this site in '04 but I have been listening since WNEW and have every one of their shows I could find on my computer dating back to some WBAB stuff. (missing some from 1999 and I'm not happy about that)

I have 18 posts because I work a lot and usually post on political message boards when I do get some net time.

[HowardsYamBag]

[QUOTE=HowardsYamBag]Dude, give them a few weeks to get the formula down. XM202 has commercial breaks as well.

XM 202 doesnt have 10 minutes of commercials three times an hour. When they have 10 minutes or more of commericals its because they went for an hour or longer without stopping.


Hoo-hoo fans just trying to mix it up? That's a lame excuse.

Dude, they are going to be playing stuff during those breaks.

Did you or did you not enjoy them when they were on WNEW?

[HowardsYamBag]

I only joined this site in '04 but I have been listening since WNEW and have every one of their shows I could find on my computer dating back to some WBAB stuff. (missing some from 1999 and I'm not happy about that)

I have 18 posts because I work a lot and usually post on political message boards when I do get some net time.

So you managed to enjoy their show, even then they were CENSORED and had COMMERCIAL BREAKS, correct?

[MOTHRA]

I have 2 questions for all the people that are happy about the CBS deal.

1. If cursing and content aren't an issue and the show is going to be so great on regular radio, then why need XM at all? You should be praying that they leave XM.

2. Why do you feel so "special" because you get to hear material that was dumped out of on CBS if the curses and content don't matter?

[HowardsYamBag]

And keep in mind, that as time goes by, they will be going through all of the archived shows and pulling the funny bits and playing those during commercials. Stuff that we have not heard in years... things that made us fans in the first place!

[willis]

So you managed to enjoy their show, even then they were CENSORED and had COMMERCIAL BREAKS, correct?


yes.. we all enjoyed it before.

but you know what was even better than the wnew shows??.. the xm shows with less commercials = more gooder. why should we be happy about losing something more gooder to get something good.

they're both good, but obviously given the choice, you'd choose the more gooder one.. you're lying to yourself if you're saying you'd rather have more commercials in the show

[MOTHRA]

And keep in mind, that as time goes by, they will be going through all of the archived shows and pulling the funny bits and playing those during commercials. Stuff that we have not heard in years... things that made us fans in the first place!

That would be great if it didn't come at the cost of new material.

[willis]

And keep in mind, that as time goes by, they will be going through all of the archived shows and pulling the funny bits and playing those during commercials. Stuff that we have not heard in years... things that made us fans in the first place!


so instead of original material, we get best of's..

why should we be happy about losing time that was previously original material, and getting to hear reruns instead.

that's like being happy when family guy got thrown off the air, becuase the dvd's came out and you could watch the ones you had already watched but hadn't seen in a while..

it's fucking stupid

[HowardsYamBag]

I have 2 questions for all the people that are happy about the CBS deal.

1. If cursing and content aren't an issue and the show is going to be so great on regular radio, then why need XM at all? You should be praying that they leave XM.

2. Why do you feel so "special" because you get to hear material that was dumped out of on CBS if the curses and content don't matter?

First of all, not everyone lives in those 7 cities. You do know that there are more cities in America, don't you?

Second, I get BOTH shows for the price I was paying for one show before.

Third, I can pause the show on my XM unit.

Fourth, I get replays 7 days a week to catch up on what I miss.

Fifth, I get all the other XM channels, and as I travel around, never have to worry about moving out of range and losing signal(FM).

Shall I continue?

This move has in no way altered the fact that my measly $12 a month is money well spent.

[HowardsYamBag]

yes.. we all enjoyed it before.

but you know what was even better than the wnew shows??.. the xm shows with less commercials = more gooder. why should we be happy about losing something more gooder to get something good.

they're both good, but obviously given the choice, you'd choose the more gooder one.. you're lying to yourself if you're saying you'd rather have more commercials in the show

I am getting more commercials and I am also getting MORE SHOW. and I would rather get best-ofs in place of commercials, which is what we will get.

[willis]

This move has in no way altered the fact that my measly $12 a month is money well spent.


I finally agree with you.. i had satellite radio while o&a were still on wnew, and i will have it long after they get the boot again.. there's no going back..

but that doesn't make this new idea any better

[willis]

I am getting more commercials and I am also getting MORE SHOW. and I would rather get best-ofs in place of commercials, which is what we will get.


you got 2 hours of self censored fcc ruled show today, along with two(ish) hours of xm show (minus xm breaks, which I didn't keep track of)..

you didn't get more show. you got less show, with less good material..

[CoonInaBasket]

The biggest problem with the XM/CBS deal is that the deal is obviously on CBS's terms. If the deal had been on XM's terms, CBS would have run the XM202 feed and CBS would have had to sort out all the dumps and figure out when to stick in commercials. Of course, this would have required the show be on at least an hour delay (and possibly longer) and would have been much more work for the suits at CBS. The second studio is another example of playing by CBS's terms.

This is a revolutionary arrangement, and as such, will be far from perfect in the beginning. I just hope the powers that be see that the current arrangement is stupid as hell and needs to be overhauled. It would be much better in the longrun for both FM and XM listeners if CBS would just consent to run a heavily edited version of the XM feed.

[us1087]

Dude, they are going to be playing stuff during those breaks.

Did you or did you not enjoy them when they were on WNEW?


Dude....I loved them on WNEW, but I already heard that stuff. Your living in the past man.

[Tree Crackhead]

I have yet to hear 1 reason the new show will be BETTER. I've seen many reasons that come off as justifications for the move, and many other reasons that the show won't SUCK, but none of the people blindly defending the change have told me why the move will be BETTER. And no, I don't want to hear, "but now the show is 6 hours, and it used to be 4 hours, so 6 is better than 4...."

[willis]

The biggest problem with the XM/CBS deal is that the deal is obviously on CBS's terms. If the deal had been on XM's terms, CBS would have run the XM202 feed and CBS would have had to sort out all the dumps and figure out when to stick in commercials. Of course, this would have required the show be on at least an hour delay (and possibly longer) and would have been much more work for the suits at CBS. The second studio is another example of playing by CBS's terms.

This is a revolutionary arrangement, and as such, will be far from perfect in the beginning. I just hope the powers that be see that the current arrangement is stupid as hell and needs to be overhauled. It would be much better in the longrun for both FM and XM listeners if CBS would just consent to run a heavily edited version of the XM feed.

unfortunately true.... we can only hope it gets fixed towards the xm side and not the cbs side..

[Motor Head]

FUCK!

I got XM to hear 4 hours of Opie and Anthony UNCENSORED. I live in Nebraska, and don't give a flying fuck about CBS radio, or the old WNEW days. I paid $$$ for the boys to be on UNCENSORED, UNFETTERED, and FREE TO BE AS FILTHY AS POSSIBLE.

I subscribe to HBO, if they decided to have a part of everyday for free with censored content I would cancel my fucking subscription. I'm not ready to "throw the boys under the bus" quite yet. But I would rather have 4 hours of "more gooder". I think most of you would agree....4 hours of uncensored, beats what we got today.

[Tree Crackhead]

you got 2 hours of self censored fcc ruled show today, along with two(ish) hours of xm show (minus xm breaks, which I didn't keep track of)..

you didn't get more show. you got less show, with less good material..


Exactly. I couldn't agree more.

[HowardsYamBag]

you got 2 hours of self censored fcc ruled show today, along with two(ish) hours of xm show (minus xm breaks, which I didn't keep track of)..

you didn't get more show. you got less show, with less good material..

Dude, some of the funniest shows ever, were on FM radio. If you have so little faith in them, then stop listening.

[MOTHRA]

Been with the guys since the BAB days. I'm not one of the wackbag nuts or a regular call in guy or anything. Just one of the "normal" listeners.

I'm not quitting the show or giving up on the guys but, I have to that I've lost a ton of respect for the boys over the last couple of days. I bought XM for O&A....that's it. Yes the music is a nice bonus but, it's all about the O&A show for me. The 13 bucks or whatever it is per month means nothing to me but, I do feel like I'm getting less for my money. Let's be honest, there are now basically 2 O&A shows the CBS show and the XM show....they even broadcast from 2 different studios. The CBS show is 3 hours long and the XM show is 2 hours long.....Why would I keep XM when between "Free FM" and Direct TV, I can get the show for free? It just doesn't make any sense for me to keep my XM sub anymore....I know, I know...flush, buy, fuck. Whatever.

I really thought the show had moved forward into a new era and this just seems like a giant step backwards. The show rocked for the last 18 months...4 hours of uncensored commercial free O&A madness....are you kidding me?!?!?!? I know it's going to expose the show to many more people but, there's so much that's going to be lost in the proccess. Do I want to hear old bits?...No, not really. Not at the cost of losing new, uncensored bits....no fucking way. Not at the cost of losing 2 hours of uncensored, commercial free radio. The ONLY upside to this is that MAYBE Howard will fucking kill himself....if THAT happens, then and only then will this deal have been worth it.

That's it, just had to vent a little bit man.

I wish the guys nothing but the best of luck and I'll be listening regardless of where they broadcasting from.

Don't forget about the loyal that followed you into outerspace.....peace.

[TeaBagAspen]

I simply did not like the show today.
The show was better on XM alone.
The boys are trying too hard on both, walking from point A to B.
I am sorry, I am not happy about the co-broadcast.

I do feel like I am a "mortgage payment" because I am jipped XM subscriber with 3 purchased radios
give it time man, I also have 3 diff xm scripts, and have been a fan of the show since I worked at waaf boston when the boys were there. there has allways been a progression to the show. just remember o&a ALLWAYS win in the end and so do the fans. Patience people

[HowardsYamBag]

The biggest problem with the XM/CBS deal is that the deal is obviously on CBS's terms. If the deal had been on XM's terms, CBS would have run the XM202 feed and CBS would have had to sort out all the dumps and figure out when to stick in commercials. Of course, this would have required the show be on at least an hour delay (and possibly longer) and would have been much more work for the suits at CBS. The second studio is another example of playing by CBS's terms.

This is a revolutionary arrangement, and as such, will be far from perfect in the beginning. I just hope the powers that be see that the current arrangement is stupid as hell and needs to be overhauled. It would be much better in the longrun for both FM and XM listeners if CBS would just consent to run a heavily edited version of the XM feed.

You don't see that happening in the future?

Dude, the company that almost ended their careers just hired them back. You don't think that they are going to take it slow for fear of it blowing up in their faces?

XM had them on the premium channel for the better part of a year, for mostly the same reasons.

Give it time, let them prove themselves and move forward, like they always do.

[CoonInaBasket]

Is there a new arrangment apologist out there who is willing to argue that the current arrangement is the best it could be? If someone can coherently explain how the present situation is better than XM and the boys playing hardball with CBS and making them run an edited XM202 feed than I will be impressed.

[Motor Head]

Been with the guys since the BAB days. I'm not one of the wackbag nuts or a regular call in guy or anything. Just one of the "normal" listeners.

I'm not quitting the show or giving up on the guys but, I have to that I've lost a ton of respect for the boys over the last couple of days. I bought XM for O&A....that's it. Yes the music is a nice bonus but, it's all about the O&A show for me. The 13 bucks or whatever it is per month means nothing to me but, I do feel like I'm getting less for my money. Let's be honest, there are now basically 2 O&A shows the CBS show and the XM show....they even broadcast from 2 different studios. The CBS show is 3 hours long and the XM show is 2 hours long.....Why would I keep XM when between "Free FM" and Direct TV, I can get the show for free? It just doesn't make any sense for me to keep my XM sub anymore....I know, I know...flush, buy, fuck. Whatever.

I really thought the show had moved forward into a new era and this just seems like a giant step backwards. The show rocked for the last 18 months...4 hours of uncensored commercial free O&A madness....are you kidding me?!?!?!? I know it's going to expose the show to many more people but, there's so much that's going to be lost in the proccess. Do I want to hear old bits?...No, not really. Not at the cost of losing new, uncensored bits....no fucking way. Not at the cost of losing 2 hours of uncensored, commercial free radio. The ONLY upside to this is that MAYBE Howard will fucking kill himself....if THAT happens, then and only then will this deal have been worth it.

That's it, just had to vent a little bit man.

I wish the guys nothing but the best of luck and I'll be listening regardless of where they broadcasting from.

Don't forget about the loyal that followed you into outerspace.....peace.

And that about sums it up for me, well said. I will keep listening, but I'm actually sad over what has happened. :icon_sad:

[Maldron]

Two days in and i'm not enjoying this. The one thing that made me love XM and the monthly payment wasn't the cursing, it was the fact that there were "NO" commercials. I hate commercials. I remember the hours and hours that O&A went railing about how Howie didn't even do a show for his fans because of all the commercial filler in between. Today i got to listen to commercial breaks averaging 7 minutes in length. And to fill that XM put some Adam Ferrara bit chopped up. I don't pay to hear 35 minutes of live entertainment every hour with antoher 25 of repeats, call them best of's if it makes you feel better but it makes me mad i pay for empty microphone time. Turn the damn mikes on and continue you can do a rejoiner like Rush Limbaugh or the hundred other jocks that do syndication and have breaks for different spots at different moments.

Having to sit through these commercials is so fucking retarded its like taking away my Tivo and forcing me to watch shows without fast forwarding again. that's the equivelent and it blows fat chunks.

I need to go look through my box of sentiments to get over this moment...

later,
Dejected
fan since month 2 of WNEW and onboard at XM year 1.

[Chichomang]

So you managed to enjoy their show, even then they were CENSORED and had COMMERCIAL BREAKS, correct?

Of course. This doesn't change the fact that IMO the XM side of things has suffered because of this move. (I have my doubts that will even be on XM in the not so distant future but that is beside the point)

So while I believe that O&A will excel on commercial radio, I am unhappy that the XM show has been changed. I invested quite a bit into that platform and technology. Yes, long commercial breaks and FCC guidelines (minus the slips) during my morning commute bother me. Sorry if that offends your sensibilities.

[HowardsYamBag]

Is there a new arrangment apologist out there who is willing to argue that the current arrangement is the best it could be? If someone can coherently explain how the present situation is better than XM and the boys playing hardball with CBS and making them run an edited XM202 feed than I will be impressed.

It's a stepping stone.

WHen they went to XM, they were on a premium channel because XM did not have the confidence that they would not blow up in a week. But the boys made the best of it and worked within the confines at that time, and moved to the next step. So in the end, what looked like a limitation, turned out to be their "proving ground" and they moved on. Got on regular channels, new listeners, DirecTV, etc...

Hoohoo left FM, leaving a huge void in the market. Most of his fans did not go to Sirius. Most Stern fans, were also O&A fans. I used to listen to Howie in the morning and O&A in the afternoon, every day.

Now those fans, or at least a huge percentage of them, are going to once again be O&A fans.

As the fan base grows, the ratings go through the roof, and when the ratings are there, the boys get away with murder... to a point anyway. But the bottom line was that once they had a fan base and ratings and commercial revenue, they were off the wall on WNEW. They admit that. They were out of control and nobody said shit because their ratings were supporting the station.

They did finally get fired, but even then, it showed the company that without them, they werte screwed, as evidenced by WNEW's demise.

So give them time. Let them prove that they won't blow up, and as they gain ratings, they gain control and will do more and more.

Right now, they don't yet have the clout with CBS, but they will. They always do.

[sidisdead]

Dude, some of the funniest shows ever, were on FM radio. If you have so little faith in them, then stop listening.


And they could never do a lot of those shows now. That's the point, it's the
commercials that are the big problem. Nobody wants to listen to a lot of Best of Crap and old bits. IF they worked that out eveyone would feel much better. Don't you think if the FM listeners really thought they were missing something they would really want to get XM. If they heard a lot of dumping. It would drive them to XM. To hear the real show. It's really hard for people to listen if their at work. The 6to9 is the drive time. That's when both XM and CBS want the listeners. Did you ever think that CBS doesn't want people running out and getting XM. No rating on CBS no advertising dollars! More subs for XM mean less money for CBS!:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

[Grace]

I didn't wake up until 9, so I listened to the xm show first then the fm show. I enjoyed the fm show, but nothing beats jimmy sitting in studio by himself waiting for his gift.

[HowardsYamBag]

Two days in and i'm not enjoying this. The one thing that made me love XM and the monthly payment wasn't the cursing, it was the fact that there were "NO" commercials. I hate commercials. I remember the hours and hours that O&A went railing about how Howie didn't even do a show for his fans because of all the commercial filler in between. Today i got to listen to commercial breaks averaging 7 minutes in length. And to fill that XM put some Adam Ferrara bit chopped up. I don't pay to hear 35 minutes of live entertainment every hour with antoher 25 of repeats, call them best of's if it makes you feel better but it makes me mad i pay for empty microphone time. Turn the damn mikes on and continue you can do a rejoiner like Rush Limbaugh or the hundred other jocks that do syndication and have breaks for different spots at different moments.

Having to sit through these commercials is so fucking retarded its like taking away my Tivo and forcing me to watch shows without fast forwarding again. that's the equivelent and it blows fat chunks.

I need to go look through my box of sentiments to get over this moment...

later,
Dejected
fan since month 2 of WNEW and onboard at XM year 1.

At no time on XM were there NO commercials. They have several long commercial breaks every show, always have.

[CoonInaBasket]

I think they should just leave the mikes on for the XM listeners during the numerous breaks. This probably isnt possible now though since they are in the CBS studio.

[Chichomang]

It's a stepping stone.

Apparently, XM was the stepping stone back to FM...

[kloraferm]

you got 2 hours of self censored fcc ruled show today, along with two(ish) hours of xm show (minus xm breaks, which I didn't keep track of)..

you didn't get more show. you got less show, with less good material..
Valid point. I hate FM commercials, but in the long run I think the show and XM will benefit from this move.

[HowardsYamBag]

Apparently, XM was the stepping stone back to FM...

It's a means to an end. More listeners, more money, more shit that they will get away with once the ratings are in.

O&A always win in the end, have a little faith.

[Dumb as Danza]

in my opinion the show was fine.

but the commercial breaks are AWFUL.

[Chichomang]

At no time on XM were there NO commercials. They have several long commercial breaks every show, always have.

They averaged out to 7 minutes per hour. I record every show and strip the commercials. The shows usually end up being 212 minutes or 3hrs, 32mins.

O&A always win in the end, have a little faith.

I have no doubt that O&A will do great on FM.

[Garyisajoke]

wait wait wait.... that Adam Ferrara bit was great. (/sarcasm)

[Garyisajoke]

It's a means to an end. More listeners, more money, more shit that they will get away with once the ratings are in.

O&A always win in the end, have a little faith.

i feel used

[HowardsYamBag]

Look at it this way.... It's like having a RAID drive on your server... Redundancy.

If one drive blows up, you can continue on the backup drive.

[augiep38]

Everyone keeps mentioning that the FreeFM show will help XM gain subs. They may gain some but I do not see substantial increases. I feel this way because I believe the majority of radio listeners listen during their commute. Most people are in the office by 9 so why pay for something I will never hear? It seems like the afternoon replay will now give me the same content as I received in the morning.

This is probably a plus for west coasters, but it sucks for the people on the east coast.

I heard Opie talking to Pugs and Kelly this morning and saying it was great to be back in Texas, etc and being nationwide agian. What the fuck? Satellite has had them nationwide for 18 months.

I have had xm for around 2 years and added the premium channel when O&A came on board. The bottom line is I think we are being fucked over. I used to think that you could believe what O&A said, I now realize I was naieve. They are no more honest than Howard.

I can't even comment on the Free FM show this morning. Know why I can't comment? I didn't hear anything!! There was some stupid fucking success story commercial, etc etc etc. Plus the audio was horrible. It sounded like they were setting in a giant fucking tin can.

I say fuck CBS and fuck Free FM.

If the show doesn't get better within the next few weeks, I will just listen to squizz, lucy, or the boneyard.

[penguinsfan1]

Look at it this way.... It's like having a RAID drive on your server... Redundancy.

If one drive blows up, you can continue on the backup drive.

Usually the crappier of your two drives is the redundant one. You put your stuff on the better one in the hope that you DON"T NEED the redundancy. XM is now the redundant, crappy drive.

[HowardsYamBag]

What amazes me, is that O&A and E-Lo did not consult you guys before signing this deal. I mean, with all your years of doing radio and stuff, it is inconceivable that they would make such a foolish move.

E-Lo must have been high. I wonder if he is secretely working for Hoohoo, and trying to get on board with Sirius, and this is all some elaborate scheme to dupe the boys and tank their careers?

Oh the humanity!

[Tree Crackhead]

What amazes me, is that O&A and E-Lo did not consult you guys before signing this deal. I mean, with all your years of doing radio and stuff, it is inconceivable that they would make such a foolish move.

E-Lo must have been high. I wonder if he is secretely working for Hoohoo, and trying to get on board with Sirius, and this is all some elaborate scheme to dupe the boys and tank their careers?

Oh the humanity!

We don't know any of the contractual details. For all we know, O&A could have had some clause that let them out of their XM deals if they had an FM gig lined up, and this was the only way to keep the boys on XM at all (which is what I think, b/c this deal DOES NOT HELP XM).

[ramone420]

XM listeners are gettin PLOWED by the egos of our buddies! The show will never be what it was!

[davedaken]

Just wait people, O&A and first days don't mix. Trust me, the show has become 100x better.

[XMScott]

I wanted to throw my radio out the first time i heard O&A on WNEW.

Fuckers took away my classic rock
Took some time, some whoring from a friend.

How many years later has it been? Im utterly addicted and in love with the show.

[kvuo]

I think the boys will do just fine, but as many have said, FM is a step backwards artistically (remember, "we are artists" -- from O'reilly interview circa 2002). XM IS THE MOVE. The only thing about this that works for me as a westcoast listener, is I can just Myfi the CBS show from 3am-6am, wake up, listen to the real show live, and then listen to the CBS show, and skip thru the 10-20 minutes of commercials/worstof/repeat bullshit every half hour.

Yeah I started listening in the WNEW days (syndicated here on some shitty AM station), yeah it was great.. Because it was the best there was! There was no satellite radio to compare it to. Now, the CBS show is the 2nd best show on radio, after the XM show. Yes I will still listen.

Yeah I'm also irritated that everyone (including Opie) seems to forget they've been available in EVERY market nationwide for a year and a half...

The FM show will end up being 2 hours long (with the commercial time taken out). SO we end up right were we were. 4 hours of O&A, 2 hours watered down.

[HowardsYamBag]

XM listeners are gettin PLOWED by the egos of our buddies! The show will never be what it was!

You are right. In the end, it will be better.

If you don't have that much faith in the boys, you shouldn't be listening in the first place, or at the very least not pretending to be a fan.

Hoohoo needs some listeners these days, why don't you try him?

[ramone420]

I just hope that XM gets someone new...SOMEONE who is interested in putting on a good show for thier listeners and not going for the #s.

[BklynBard]

There's a lot of bitching on the board (bored) about the show not being what we've become used to on XM. Of course the show will adjust ..... however, remember the great stuff we had back in the WNEW days, when they had these ingenius ways around the FCC (Fucking Commie Controlers)? The live read Ant did for "Ultimate V" was one of the funniest bits I've ever heard .... without a single curse-word. On the flip side the commercials are a bit tedious.

However, now we have the best of both worlds! :clap:

[Rob]

great show today... i loved it...

[EZE]

Had XM before O&A showed up on 202. XM was great without them....more gooder with them ..but national coverage is what sold me on the satilite. O&A is my favorite show. I am a PEST. BUT...O&A are not the end all of XM. I support XM, and if this move,change,new direction..helps XM grow then it is a good move period. BE GRATEFUL that we the listener get anything from these guys at all. It's all good. I love em. Todays show was great. Every show is great. Anthony is a saint for even showing up today and all yous can do is Bitch? Well I for one am glad to have ever heard just one show. REALLY, who are we to judge men of such greatness?

[MOTHRA]

I can't agree that the show is going to be BETTER. It's going to be really good, certainly better than anything on regular FCC regulated radio. But BETTER than what they've been doing on XM for the last 18 months or so? No way.

They just gave away too many comedic "weapons". With the exception of Brian Regan, I dare you to ask ANY comedian which platform he would rather perform on.

Was Norton good on Leno? You betcha. Was he BETTER than when he's at a comedy club? No.

[Shadwell]

If you live on the West Coast, you probably will not notice a change. I was worried at first but, the boys have never let me down. I get in my car this morning and O&A are in the XM studios. No difference, I lost nothing, the show lost nothing. If you try and relax for a second, I think you might realize that this is a good thing.

[ramone420]

GTREATNESS???? does not sell out

[ellatino1]

This is why I only have 20 posts on WackBag. Instead of seeing how great the show was and how great this FM & XM combo really is, most of you fucking people rather bitch and complain about it.

Hey look I know WackBag and the pest as a whole have a lot of fucking persuasion (example: DirectTV issue with O&A). But the deal is done. The boys know what needs to be fixed. And if you don't want to wait while they fix things and enjoy the show they give, then go fucking listen to something else.

The bottom line is that you are the listener and they are the talent. If you don't like what they produce, stop listening. XM gives you over 170 other channels and many of them have great programing. If you don't like 202 try one of the other commercial and censor free channels. Thats what you really pay $12 a month for.

HowardsYamBag :clap: :clap: :clap: Well said.

[willis]

Dude, some of the funniest shows ever, were on FM radio. If you have so little faith in them, then stop listening.


Which of the funniest shows ever on wnew could they currently do on commercial radio, going by the what seems to be the fcc / market rules??

And give up with your horrific argument of "if you don't like it, stop listening".. this is the bitch forum, and a thread specifically to bitch about the first day. If you can't rebutt any points, just stop arguing. I have faith in the boys, i'm sure they will figure out a way to do both shows, but forseeable future I see NO benefit to xm subscribers..

and your analogy to the premium channel is off.. the premium channel was becuase they hadn't been on radio in a couple years.. they had to prove themselves and that they could manage to not fuck it up. They did and were rewarded. In this situation, they've been on the air for a year and a half, have a strong (and insanely loyal) audience and cbs was doing nothing but sucking ass. That was the most leverage they were going to get and the shitty deal we get out of it is less overall show time and two split studios??..

that's a shitty deal, unless you are trying to get back to fm full time, in which case, fuck them for being liars for the past year and a half

[WMB]

Everyone keeps mentioning that the FreeFM show will help XM gain subs. They may gain some but I do not see substantial increases. I feel this way because I believe the majority of radio listeners listen during their commute. Most people are in the office by 9 so why pay for something I will never hear? It seems like the afternoon replay will now give me the same content as I received in the morning.

If the show doesn't get better within the next few weeks, I will just listen to squizz, lucy, or the boneyard.

You answered most of your concerns yourself.

Most people, inlcuding me, didn't buy XM just for O&A, I love the commerical free music.

If people are in the office by 9:00 and don't catch the rest of the show or missed 7-8 getting their kids ready for school, they can catch the ENTIRE show on a replay.

The commercials do blow without a doubt, and I don't see them getting shorter, but I have faith in XM to produce something entertaining for the XM subsribers during those breaks. Today is not a fare example of what the XM breaks can be like. There's a lot of possibilities for filler.

[ramone420]

This sounds just like howies 4 days a week how often do you really think there will be a 3 hour show on XM???

[willis]

This is why I only have 20 posts on WackBag. Instead of seeing how great the show was and how great this FM & XM combo really is, most of you fucking people rather bitch and complain about it.


yes, the show was great, and even on fm will still be great. that doesn't change the fact that none of you xm&fm supporters have come up with a good reason how this change helps the fans. Don't give me the line of "they are the gods, we are the peons, we bow at their feet".. it's not stern. o&a have always been a very audience based show, and are proud of that fact. it's been mentioned many many times how they interact more with their audience than any other show, and as such, the audience is very passionate about what they are listening to. and so yes, we have the right to bitch and bitch and bitch some more, until we are proven wrong..

[willis]

You answered most of your concerns yourself.

Most people, inlcuding me, didn't buy XM just for O&A, I love the commerical free music.

If people are in the office by 9:00 and don't catch the rest of the show or missed 7-8 getting their kids ready for school, they can catch the ENTIRE show on a replay.

The commercials do blow without a doubt, and I don't see them getting shorter, but I have faith in XM to produce something entertaining for the XM subsribers during those breaks. Today is not a fare example of what the XM breaks can be like. There's a lot of possibilities for filler.


I think this is what I just don't get. Why are you happy about getting less of a show than you had before, with admittedly lots of "filler" on xm when the boys go to break??

[RMPGP]

I'm not a negative nelly as far as the show's quality goes. I don't really care about the cursing, it doesn't matter to me. My problem is the FUCKING COMMERCIALS.
I AM NOT PAYING TO HEAR COMMERCIALS AND BEST-OF. Figure out the fucking commercial situation boys, and get it back to where it was when it was only XM, or the XM listeners will be leaving in a hurry. O&A keep talking about "eventually the pests will turn on us..." The pests all have XM. The pests will not tolerate paying for the ridiculous amount of commercials on CBS.

"But they play worst-of and great bits from the old days during the breaks..."
Fuck worst-of. Fuck the old bits. If reruns are so great why doesn't NBC just show old episodes of The Cosby Show on Thursday nights at 8 and get their "must-see-tv" back? I'm not paying for reruns.

"But they are starting at 6 and going till almost 12 now, so really you get more show"
Do I? That does no good for the people like me (the vast majority of us - people with work/school) who can only listen during certain windows of the day. Yes, if I could sit by my radio for 6 hours a day, I would be okay. But I can't. I take my son to daycare at 7:30 and can only listen until I park my car in front of school at 9:15. Then, on the way home, I pick up another hour, and another hour at night. If i can only listen to a certain 3 hour period during the day, it doesn't matter to me if the show is those three hours or 10 hours long - it's the PERCENTAGE of commercial time as a part of LIMITED LISTENING TIME.

Again - love the show, not concerned at all about the content/energy/sellout etc, VERY concerned about 25 minutes of commercials per hour, which is just about what they had from 7:40-8:40 or so today.


:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

CAN YOU XM PEOPLE PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO THIS POST.

Get rid of those fucking commercials ASAP.

[HowardsYamBag]

Which of the funniest shows ever on wnew could they currently do on commercial radio, going by the what seems to be the fcc / market rules??

And give up with your horrific argument of "if you don't like it, stop listening".. this is the bitch forum, and a thread specifically to bitch about the first day. If you can't rebutt any points, just stop arguing. I have faith in the boys, i'm sure they will figure out a way to do both shows, but forseeable future I see NO benefit to xm subscribers..

and your analogy to the premium channel is off.. the premium channel was becuase they hadn't been on radio in a couple years.. they had to prove themselves and that they could manage to not fuck it up. They did and were rewarded. In this situation, they've been on the air for a year and a half, have a strong (and insanely loyal) audience and cbs was doing nothing but sucking ass. That was the most leverage they were going to get and the shitty deal we get out of it is less overall show time and two split studios??..

that's a shitty deal, unless you are trying to get back to fm full time, in which case, fuck them for being liars for the past year and a half

You are obviously not smart enough to see the big picture here. All you see is today, and what YOU want.

They will be better than ever, give them time.

XM made them premium because they were off the air for awhile, that much you inadvertantly got right. CBS is doing the same thing here, playing it safe. They know the kind of show that O&D did, and they fired them for it. They see how O&A are on XM.

They want to see how things go with O&A, and as their confidence level goes up, so will teh funny.

But stop crying like a little girl already. They are on the air to cater to what most people want. They are not your little pet monkey, to do your bidding.

[nuknfutz]

I think it's funny that you're complaining NOW about the commercials. What was it that Opie said last week, oh Yeah, "free fm hasn't had time to sell commercials yet so it won't be that bad" What happens when they actually have a book to sell? We'll get more commercials crammed down our throats. Give them some time and you know what will happen?? They will sound great compared to the watered down crap on free radio today so everyone will think they kick ass. Then compare it to the great stuff we all paid for on XM and it won't match up. I bought XM 18 mos ago for these guys. I have an Ipod, why would I listen to some obscure crap music channels when I have 20 gig of music, MY music, at my fingertips??? Live MSNBC news feeds, Radio Disney....Nah don't think so. I'll still get them for my drive but I'll save $12/mos THANKS!!! I just hope they can do the same stuff they used to BEFORE hoo hoo made the FCC a god. One of my favs was a 4th of July show when they were shooting bottle rockets down the hall and out of an a-hole!! Can they still get away with that. If not, they sold out to get back at Howie. The thing that sucks is that he stands a great chance at having the last laugh.:icon_sad:

[WMB]

yes, the show was great, and even on fm will still be great. that doesn't change the fact that none of you xm&fm supporters have come up with a good reason how this change helps the fans. Don't give me the line of "they are the gods, we are the peons, we bow at their feet".. it's not stern. o&a have always been a very audience based show, and are proud of that fact. it's been mentioned many many times how they interact more with their audience than any other show, and as such, the audience is very passionate about what they are listening to. and so yes, we have the right to bitch and bitch and bitch some more, until we are proven wrong..



I think this is what I just don't get. Why are you happy about getting less of a show than you had before, with admittedly lots of "filler" on xm when the boys go to break??


I think this has been covered before more than once, but ok:

Audio from WNEW which we all laughed our asses at way before XM. (ie. filler)

People calling in who aren't calling to kiss ass. Ripping apart an ignorant caller is funny radio.

Good guests on the show. Good bands on the show.


And I have not sat down to do the math people are posting about the total hours of show being less when you factor in all the breaks and commericals. That's just too speculative yet. Do we really know how many breaks they're going to take after only one day of the new show?

[assWhack]

I thought the FM stuff was ok. I'm trying to stay positive. It's tough when on my hour drive in my radio experience was:
8am
Commercials
10-15 minutes of radio
Commercials
10-15 minutes of radio
End of FM show at 8:45

That's rough. The bill donahue interview was great though.

Also, I hate when someone says they are not happy with the show, and someone stupidly responds, "Well don't listen anymore!", or the ubiquitous "go flush your XM down the toilet, etc..." Like they won the argument. That's not a checkmate to a conversation. Obviously we are all staying listeners if we are posting on this site. But as listeners we do have the right to be upset over the changes that directly effect us. Stop being so single minded.

That wasn't directed towards anyone. Just something that generally bothers me.

[number812]

The flow is gone. It's not going to work.

[WMB]

Personally I enjoyed some of the creativeness in the show today, especially by Jimmy. And I don't mean using code words like C, or yambag. I tuned in the middle of a segment with Jimmy talking to the chick from Pugs and Kelly about the massage parlor and he made a reference to a shot in the face.

[Tree Crackhead]

How long until, for some reason, the boys record the 3 hr FM portion of the show and bail on the XM portion? We all know it won't happen soon, w/ the current uproar, but you know it will happen eventually.....

[willis]

Do we really know how many breaks they're going to take after only one day of the new show?

I think it's safe to assume that today will be the least commercials we will hear on the cbs show, becuase as they have said, cbs has nothing to sell.

And even with that nothing to sell, there was 60ish (I think 54, or 57) minutes of commercials today. So 2/3rd's of todays show was gone to commercials, and today was the day when there weren't going to be any, becuase cbs doesn't have any to sell.

I think you're being naive to think that the commercials will get better, or that there will be less commercials..

I mean c'mon, how painful was "well, we're goign to take a break to sync up with the catholic league guy", then a 10 minute break, 20 minutes with him, then another 10 minute break. I know, that's fm radio and blah blah blah.. but it's not xm radio, and I really don't think you can make a coherent argument that it is better radio..

[willis]

You are obviously not smart enough to see the big picture here. All you see is today, and what YOU want.

They will be better than ever, give them time.

XM made them premium because they were off the air for awhile, that much you inadvertantly got right. CBS is doing the same thing here, playing it safe. They know the kind of show that O&D did, and they fired them for it. They see how O&A are on XM.

They want to see how things go with O&A, and as their confidence level goes up, so will teh funny.

But stop crying like a little girl already. They are on the air to cater to what most people want. They are not your little pet monkey, to do your bidding.

explain to me how the show will be better this way. if you don't want to, or can't, don't enter a conversation about the show, because saying "stop crying like a little girl" doesn't prove anything, it just makes you sound like an idiot caller who calls up to bash jimmy and is immortalized by being told to flush his xm down the toilet and fuck his mother.

[WMB]

I think it's safe to assume that today will be the least commercials we will hear on the cbs show, becuase as they have said, cbs has nothing to sell.

And even with that nothing to sell, there was 60ish (I think 54, or 57) minutes of commercials today. So 2/3rd's of todays show was gone to commercials, and today was the day when there weren't going to be any, becuase cbs doesn't have any to sell.

I think you're being naive to think that the commercials will get better, or that there will be less commercials..

I mean c'mon, how painful was "well, we're goign to take a break to sync up with the catholic league guy", then a 10 minute break, 20 minutes with him, then another 10 minute break. I know, that's fm radio and blah blah blah.. but it's not xm radio, and I really don't think you can make a coherent argument that it is better radio..

2/3's of the CBS show were commericals. And I don't know about you, but I didn't listen to WYSP when they went to commercial break, nor do I plan to.

As I said, I don't think the commercials will get shorter, but I have faith in the XM "commercial time" and think the people at XM will use that time better than they did today weather it be with WNEW bits or other "creative filler."

The commercials do blow without a doubt, and I don't see them getting shorter, but I have faith in XM to produce something entertaining for the XM subsribers during those breaks. Today is not a fare example of what the XM breaks can be like. There's a lot of possibilities for filler.

[HowardsYamBag]

How long until, for some reason, the boys record the 3 hr FM portion of the show and bail on the XM portion? We all know it won't happen soon, w/ the current uproar, but you know it will happen eventually.....

Jesus Christ, that is horseshit.

I would be willing to bet money that the next step is to get CBS comfortable with them, get the ratings and revenue up so that they have more clout, and then go back to XM full time with a delayed and heavily monitored/dumped version on FreeFM from their XM studio.

They can't make that move yet, just as they couldn't be on the regular platform when they first went to XM.

You people are staring at the end of your nose and not looking 10 feet ahead at the brick wall you are running towards.

Try to see the big picture, ok?

[HowardsYamBag]

explain to me how the show will be better this way. if you don't want to, or can't, don't enter a conversation about the show, because saying "stop crying like a little girl" doesn't prove anything, it just makes you sound like an idiot caller who calls up to bash jimmy and is immortalized by being told to flush his xm down the toilet and fuck his mother.

Who do you think knows more about making funny radio and succeeding? You, or O&A?

[Garyisajoke]

What amazes me, is that O&A and E-Lo did not consult you guys before signing this deal. I mean, with all your years of doing radio and stuff, it is inconceivable that they would make such a foolish move.

E-Lo must have been high. I wonder if he is secretely working for Hoohoo, and trying to get on board with Sirius, and this is all some elaborate scheme to dupe the boys and tank their careers?

Oh the humanity!

It's the rare "O&A Zombie" species...

"Must... not... deviate from... what... what I'm... told."

I'm not counting the show out but if this morning is any sign of what's to come, I'm pissed. Their entire demeanor is different on FreeFM. XM was so laidback and cool. On FreeFM, it's like, "Oh we better show how cool we are... yeah we make fun of ourselves more than anyone... this is awesome! this is great!"

Let the fans be the judge of that. They'll find a comfort zone and I'm sure I'll come to terms with the show because deep down, I love Opie and ANthony. But it's still disheartening that I'm getting censored radio on XM. I dont' want to learn the O&A codeword for Cunt. I want to hear cunt. I want to hear **** jokes, Robert Reed JOkes, etc. without worrying who they're going to piss off and subsequently have to end such references. Although I suppose if they do piss someone off and blow the FreeFM deal, they'd be... back on XM exclusively... hmmmm....

Seriously. I'm bitching now because I'm angry now. I'll stop when they prove that my 12 dollars is going towards something worthwhile. RIght now i'm of the mindset that for FreeFM, you get what you pay for. ANd I'm paying. It sucks.

[willis]

2/3's of the CBS show were commericals. And I don't know about you, but I didn't listen to WYSP when they went to commercial break, nor do I plan to.

As I said, I don't think the commercials will get shorter, but I have faith in the XM "commercial time" and think the people at XM will use that time better than they did today weather it be with WNEW bits or other "creative filler."


meh.. I understand what you're saying.. but regardless of how much faith i place in xm's filler material the bottom line is filler material is much less gooder than the boys being live.. which is the whole point of this discussion. filler material might as well be commercials becuause it's not live show that we have been spoiled with.. again, i'm sure the show will still be funny and i'll still be listening a year from now.. but to say it will be better, I can't agree with that

[willis]

Who do you think knows more about making funny radio and succeeding? You, or O&A?


thank you for proving my point.. at least admit you can't have a semi-adult debate about the topic presenting any ideas of your own..

kthxbye

[Tree Crackhead]

Jesus Christ, that is horseshit.

I would be willing to bet money that the next step is to get CBS comfortable with them, get the ratings and revenue up so that they have more clout, and then go back to XM full time with a delayed and heavily monitored/dumped version on FreeFM from their XM studio.



I will eat my words if this happens. This is the ONLY way to get back on terrestrial radio and still save the integrity of the show. I just don't see it happening. I see XM getting screwed little by little, until eventually, the boys are completely off of XM radio. Only time will tell.

[MOTHRA]

Jesus Christ, that is horseshit.

I would be willing to bet money that the next step is to get CBS comfortable with them, get the ratings and revenue up so that they have more clout, and then go back to XM full time with a delayed and heavily monitored/dumped version on FreeFM from their XM studio.

They can't make that move yet, just as they couldn't be on the regular platform when they first went to XM.

You people are staring at the end of your nose and not looking 10 feet ahead at the brick wall you are running towards.

Try to see the big picture, ok?

I doubt it.

If there was ever going to be a time to play hardball with CBS, this was it. The boys had CBS over a barrel and couldn't pull it off. That's exactly how this should have gone down. "We stay at XM, do the show WE want to do and you can dump out of whatever you don't like." Take it or go get Dave back.

[willis]

It's the rare "O&A Zombie" species...


http://smiliesftw.com/x/bowrofl.gif...

[WMB]

meh.. I understand what you're saying.. but regardless of how much faith i place in xm's filler material the bottom line is filler material is much less gooder than the boys being live.. which is the whole point of this discussion. filler material might as well be commercials becuause it's not live show that we have been spoiled with.. again, i'm sure the show will still be funny and i'll still be listening a year from now.. but to say it will be better, I can't agree with that

There's no one here that would argue the boys being live beats out filler. But, I can't pass jugement on the change after one show, after Anthony was sick today, after the first day doing a show in a new studio, after being a little more conscious of cursing. Sure we've all been spoiled with 99% uncensored O&A, but when I way the possibilities of what could make the show better, I like to think on the brighter side.

Hell, after no O&A for 2 1/2 years, I'm just enjoying the show here and now. If the show does suck after a couple weeks, I'll still listen when considering the alternatives, but it's not fare to say it sucks now. Not yet.

[kvuo]

As long as someone keeps the PAD data accurate so those of us who listen to the CBS show on Myfi's, etc. can still skip thru the bullshit commercial time, I should be alright.. (and it will be 20 minutes an hour, I'm pretty sure that is standard in commercial radio -- my other favorite show, Phil Hendrie, does 20 minutes an hour of non-show).


Oh has anyone forgotten in the last few months, XM itself has been doing more commercials on the show?

[kralk]

Who do you think knows more about making funny radio and succeeding? You, or O&A?

Who do you think knows more about what I want to listen to?

Today I heard 10 minute commercial blocks and sanitized radio. I feel like the biggest sucker in the world - I am PAYING for free commercial radio.

My favorite part is the XM advertisements that talk about how they have the most commercial free music stations. Wait a minute, I'm listening to a commercial, about how commercial-free XM is? Ironic?? [I know... car crash]

As far as the XM portion of the show - I'm at work. The commute in and the commute home was the FM crap.

Calmo calmo calmo. This is my first post. Sorry for the rant, it must be my time of the month. I'll keep listening.

[WMB]

Who do you think knows more about what I want to listen to?

Today I heard 10 minute commercial blocks and sanitized radio. I feel like the biggest sucker in the world - I am PAYING for free commercial radio.

My favorite part is the XM advertisements that talk about how they have the most commercial free music stations. Wait a minute, I'm listening to a commercial, about how commercial-free XM is? Ironic?? [I know... car crash]

As far as the XM portion of the show - I'm at work. The commute in and the commute home was the FM crap.

Calmo calmo calmo. This is my first post. Sorry for the rant, it must be my time of the month. I'll keep listening.

O&A on XM have never been commercial free, neither has any other talk program on XM. Just music.

And about your timing of the show dilema:

Record the show and listen later. With all the people complaining around here, I'm sure you'll be able to find a MYFI cheap.

[robinquivers]

thanks for the welcome...my first post and i popped as soon as i hit the sheets...

Total Douchebag....sorry everyone....

I did radio for 30 years - and these guys are gold...i'm just bummin' hard.

:action-sm

CALMO:action-sm

[phishman3579]

Yes, it's one day, and yes, I'm giving it a few weeks, but I still wanted to post after the first day.

The Free FM one sounded guarded and cautious. I'm sure it'll get rolling when familiarity sets in.

The show's turning point was the walkover. Everything after that seemed to change. The mood, the energy, it was a more exciting listen. And today's ending was fucking priceless. It's amazing how when the restrictions are removed, things just seemed to flow a lot better.

Like I said, I'm still giving this time.

The flow of the CBS show was horrible today; that's the biggest effect i've seen so far.

[Bobobie]

I don't post enough to start a topic either.

To the people saying they were great on WNEW.

Remember Janet Jackson? They have not been on commercial radio in the new FCC climate of heavily censored radio. Those old bits they're blabbing about ...

A lot of those old WNEW bits, coming out out of the vault, will never be aired again. There are two local guys I used to listen to, but quit because it was too milk-toast after they were forced to clean up their program under the new FCC regime. They couldn't even do their old fart bits. Thats why O&A was so refreshing. They could talk about any topic without dancing around it. Hell, I may as well go back to listening to Drew and Mike. At least the Commercial breaks are done in larger blocks so they can go longer stretches without going to breaks. The flow of the show is really broken up with frequent breaks.

[WMB]

I don't post enough to start a topic either.

To the people saying they were great on WNEW.

Remember Janet Jackson? They have not been on commercial radio in the new FCC climate of heavily censored radio. Those old bits they're blabbing about ...

A lot of those old WNEW bits, coming out out of the vault, will never be aired again. There are two local guys I used to listen to, but quit because it was too milk-toast after they were forced to clean up their program under the new FCC regime. They couldn't even do their old fart bits. Thats why O&A was so refreshing. They could talk about any topic without dancing around it. Hell, I may as well go back to listening to Drew and Mike. At least the Commercial breaks are done in larger blocks so they can go longer stretches without going to breaks. The flow of the show is really broken up with frequent breaks.

Yep. A benny to being an XM subscriber. We get to hear them. The people who listen on FREE FM who aren't already XM subs might think about joining XM to hear them...........

[kralk]

O&A on XM have never been commercial free, neither has any other talk program on XM. Just music.

My bad, I didn't mean to imply that it was ever commercial free. It just seemed that there were a LOT more commercial breaks during my commute today than I am used to hearing (or want to hear).

[HowardsYamBag]

Who do you think knows more about what I want to listen to?

Today I heard 10 minute commercial blocks and sanitized radio. I feel like the biggest sucker in the world - I am PAYING for free commercial radio.

My favorite part is the XM advertisements that talk about how they have the most commercial free music stations. Wait a minute, I'm listening to a commercial, about how commercial-free XM is? Ironic?? [I know... car crash]

As far as the XM portion of the show - I'm at work. The commute in and the commute home was the FM crap.

Calmo calmo calmo. This is my first post. Sorry for the rant, it must be my time of the month. I'll keep listening.

It's not about YOU.

[MOTHRA]

Yep. A benny to being an XM subscriber. We get to hear them. The people who listen on FREE FM who aren't already XM subs might think about joining XM to hear them...........


"Annnd we're back, thank's for checking out the Opie and Anthony Show. Remember, if you want to check out more of the Opie and Anthony show you can subscribe to Xm Radio and get the Opie and Anthony show for only $12.99 a month."

Wha?

[HowardsYamBag]

What a bunch of ass-hats.

Just STFU and enjoy the show like you did on WNEW, like you did on XM, and how you will continue to enjoy them on XM/CBS.

Frankly, I am certain that half you goobers are Stern fans here to create trouble.

[mcstark]

I guess this is what I don't get about the uproar.

I live in the midwest, and drive long distance for work. I am thrilled to pay for "Free FM" (Coast to Coast, Phil Hendre, Air America and the rest) because in my town I can't hear most of those shows, and trying to get tuned in while on the road is a bitch. And yes, they all have commercials. But less then if you were to listen over FM.

Once I was connected I started listening to O&A, and loved them. This only added to my love of satellite radio. But they always had commericals too. And yes, I admit, I am looking forward to hearing all those "old bits" that you are talking about, that are supposed to be used as filler. I am sorry that some people don't like reruns, but remember, for some of us it will be the first time hearing them.

I have 30 presets on my roady, I have 28 stations programmed. At $2.15 a station ($13 a month divided by 28...no Howie math for me!) well that is a pretty good deal to me.

So, if you live in one of the 7 "chosen" cities, and don't listen to anything but O&A, well, maybe your $12.95 a month can be better spent elsewhere. But for those of us who don't, this is much more gooder!

MCS out-

[sb55]

They need to do the XM replay (not the CBS)in the 3-6 PM spot on the East Coast. We will not have a chance to listen to the uncensord in the car....

[MOTHRA]

What a bunch of ass-hats.

Just STFU and enjoy the show like you did on WNEW, like you did on XM, and how you will continue to enjoy them on XM/CBS.

Frankly, I am certain that half you goobers are Stern fans here to create trouble.


The "Stern fan" and "Flush fuck buy" shit is played out already.

Jesus Christ! Aren't people allowed to have an opinion and discuss it with others? I'm just voicing my concerns, I DO have a right to UNDERSTAND exactly what it is I'm paying for.

[Bill Lehecka]

The "Stern fan" and "Flush fuck buy" shit is played out already.

Jesus Christ! Aren't people allowed to have an opinion and discuss it with others? I'm just voicing my concerns, I DO have a right to UNDERSTAND exactly what it is I'm paying for.

If I may, it's Flush BUY Fuck.

[metakomm]

As an XM subscriber since day 1, I feel cheated :icon_sad:

Waking up to O&A uncensored and laid back was the greatest...Now, a self-censored show with annoying commercial breaks = *bleh*

I am now listening to the 9 - 11 portion....Much better, but i should be hearing this during the 6 - 9 portion...

Oh well...If the FreeFM show continues to annoy me, I will just focus on catching the 9 - 11 stuff...

[RussMartin]

I guess this is what I don't get about the uproar.

I live in the midwest, and drive long distance for work. I am thrilled to pay for "Free FM" (Coast to Coast, Phil Hendre, Air America and the rest) because in my town I can't hear most of those shows, and trying to get tuned in while on the road is a bitch. And yes, they all have commercials. But less then if you were to listen over FM.

Once I was connected I started listening to O&A, and loved them. This only added to my love of satellite radio. But they always had commericals too. And yes, I admit, I am looking forward to hearing all those "old bits" that you are talking about, that are supposed to be used as filler. I am sorry that some people don't like reruns, but remember, for some of us it will be the first time hearing them.

I have 30 presets on my roady, I have 28 stations programmed. At $2.15 a station ($13 a month divided by 28...no Howie math for me!) well that is a pretty good deal to me.

So, if you live in one of the 7 "chosen" cities, and don't listen to anything but O&A, well, maybe your $12.95 a month can be better spent elsewhere. But for those of us who don't, this is much more gooder!

MCS out-

MCS... you said it. In the buckle of the bible belt (Birmingham), I have been subjected to shitty radio for years. I have lived in other cities with decent radio, but the radio here was awful. Rather than expanding my CD/mp3 collection, I am happy to pay for good radio.

I came for the music, I will stay for O&A.

[metakomm]

They need to do the XM replay (not the CBS)in the 3-6 PM spot on the East Coast. We will not have a chance to listen to the uncensord in the car....

:clap: :clap: :clap:

How about running the replay starting at 12pm so the free fm billshit runs from 12pm - 3pm, then maybe 3pm - 6pm of XM exclusive, 6pm - 7pm ??? then put ron and fez live at 7pm...

[tjpann]

This is only the first day, and I thought it wasn't bad. I am gonna give it more time, I'm sure the kinks will be worked out and we will once again have more gooder radio!

[Ben's Bulge]

After one day my impression is if the XM side remains as good as it was today I can live with the censored toned down FM part.

[deadfruitvirus]

:clap: :clap: :clap:

How about running the replay starting at 12pm so the free fm billshit runs from 12pm - 3pm, then maybe 3pm - 6pm of XM exclusive, 6pm - 7pm ??? then put ron and fez live at 7pm...

Nah. That would make too much sense.

[HowardsYamBag]

Nah. That would make too much sense.

Yeah, let's program the entire channel and force R&F to do nights in order to accomodate that guys personal schedule.

[us1087]

It's not about YOU.


JESUS....Take Opie/Anthony's dick out of your mouth for just a minute and admit that the commercials FUCKING SUCK. We all agree that O&A are far and away the best thing on the radio but who the fuck wants to listen to bits from four years ago and commercials????????? (besides you)

Norton has been brilliant the past 18 months because he can say what he wants and its brutal and fucking funny. Now he has to hold back.

No good guests or bands on the old show. Who fucking cares? How great is a Free-FM interview with a rock star going to be? With no Hoo-Hoo, who is the FCC going to look towards to justify their own exsistance?

[nuknfutz]

I like the idea of buying a Myfi to record the show. Oh wait, then I'd have to buy another subscription and pay twice for what is now free. Yeah that's a good solution

[metakomm]

Yeah, let's program the entire channel and force R&F to do nights in order to accomodate that guys personal schedule.

Change your name to O&A'sYamBag and spit them out yo mouf... :icon_roll

I have been a fan of R&F for a long time now and always thought they sound the best as an evening show.

[Sorbo]

Granted it's only the first show but I'm not impressed at all. I won't argue about whether they sold out or not but I can say with absolute certainty that they are hyprocites. After all the shit they said about pussy radio they decide to go back when the price is right? Does this mean they would go on Howard's station if he paid them enough? Probably.

And all this we should be happy for them shit? Fuck that! We're getting screwed out of quality radio just so they can get rich.

Look at some of the bits they've had on XM. Do you think the Andrew Dice Gay bit would have happened if they had to make sure they didn't violate those puritan fucking deceny laws?

How long before the XM show stops altogether and we're back to just another heavily censored morning drive show?

Maybe I'm wrong and this will all work out. Knowing them there's a good chance they'll get fired anyway so all this CBS silliness can go away and pussy radio can go back to dying like it should be.

[Kareem840]

how soon will paltalk be set up in the CBS studio?

who is sitting where in the studio besides opie in howard's old chair and the lackey's in the dunking booth? who's in jackie's seat? fred's?

[big doodies jim]

maybe we can all relax. Their first days of xm wasnt pretty either. Find some other things to worry about.


I disagree. I thought the first days of XM were great, becuase the boys could talk about anything they wanted ANYWAY they wanted to. I compare this to being able to drive a Ferrari (or substitute your own image here) for 18 months without having to pay attention to traffic laws. Then this morning I woke up to find a '86 Ford Taurus in my garage. Im not giving up, but I think Im going to end up listening to the 9-11 show and checking out music during the earlier portions.

[krunk]

...the 5 minute standup bit by someone i didn't know was funny for a minute, but not for 5......


that was Ant's pal ADAM FERRARA (http://www.adamferrara.com/) he's a funny guy

[goon21]

I enjoyed the show today. They at least acknowledged that they would rather be on XM(noticing when curses were going to be dropped). Also I feel that there is some ulterior motive here, like a six month contract, you know get subs for XM up to like 10 or 12 mill then leave FREE FM. Always a possibility. Either way I've been a XM subscriber for 4 years so I'm going nowhere. Everything should work out in the end.

Coffee Diva----Love the ceiling cat icon

[BLACKIEhugeHANDS]

i'm still a little worried, but i hope there is as much xm as free fm show... hopefully it's 9-at least 11 everyday... i got flashbacks when i put on 92.3 at work and heard opie do the first live read... i also forgot how much i hated the 10 minute commercial breaks...

[deadking]

PLEASE LET THEM GET FIRED FROM CBS!

Please let me wake up, this is a bad dream isnt it? I swear the O&A show I heard today was being broadcast on regular radio, it was horrible, I know it was a dream becasue instead of commercials they were playing horrible bits from weak ass comics and some other terrible bullshit. And then when they marched to the "real" studio I had visions of them pushing wheel-barrels of money with them laughing and talking about how hacky it was. I figured I was dreaming this becasue of O&A talking about phoning it in and not caring about the show anymore, but I thought that was just a bit. They would never do that to me.... after all I followed them to the promised land (XM) and even paid for it. Can I wake up from this nightmare now?

You get 5 hours of show now:
After you take away commercials and breaks you have about 3 1/2 hours of show, same as before but now half of it sucks. Jimmy will not work on the new show, THIS IS NOT A SLIGHT ON JIMMY. I think he is hillarious, and I was not a Jimmy fan at first but man... he is sick! He will not have that edge at all on the FM show now.

You didnt buy XM for O&A only:
True...BUT i did buy 4 more subs becasue I had the VIRUS. I will be cancelling 3 of them by the end of the month unless they get fired from CBS or this crap CHANGES DRAMATICLY. I have too many options for quality music to have to pay for 3 extra subs, in reality you will be getting an hour and a half or a bit more after you take out breaks on the XM show. I couldnt even finish listening to the replay of the FM show tonight, it sucked. I can't see where you say give em time, it'll be better. COME ON they have been broadcasting for over a year and a half on XM, why is that so diff from FM as far as the getting in the groove is concerned? If you say its the breaks and commericials then you have proved my point exactly, its not the same show. How much more in the groove can they get?

They have been telling us that they were just phoning it in as far as the show was concerned, and they told us they would sell out to anyone for the right price, even sirius (reference the bit about ben working at sirius w/Pam Anderson). I didnt believe it then, but now I do.

LETS LUANCH AN ATTACK ON CBS MAYBE? PESTS GOT THEM BACK ON DIRECTV, CANT THEY GET THEM OFF CBS??

:icon_frow

[goobersmoocher]

I can’t believe that all of the people complaining have forgotten that O & A were great on free radio before and they will be again. A larger audience is always a good thing, and I look forward to hearing a lot of the old bits I heard from WNEW, and some of the stuff I never heard from Boston, etc. Let ‘em have their day. Relax, enjoy.

[MOTHRA]

I have to agree with the first few days on XM being great. Part of it was because I hadn't heard them in over two years and part was because of all the up-side being on XM had...the potential.

Some of you guys are forgetting that the better and more successful they get on "Free FM", the more commercials and less show you get. So in a sense, being on free fm and being good on it, can only make things worse for the listener.

Unless of course, you don't mind getting less show.

[colorBlnd1/2Jew]

The demagoguery has to stop. People posting their concerns are not just doing so to bash O&A. The "love it or leave it" and "with us or against us" bullshit is just that. It has been said before, change causes unease. To be frank, "trust us" does not do much to quell that unease. Yes, it was the first day and I do believe things will improve. However, people should be afforded the opportunity to air their concerns. Despite what Opie may have said, the time has not yet arrived to "eat your own." We are simply seeing XM listeners feeling as though they are being left behind. Are they wrong? Probably, but I think a lot of us are voicing our concerns are not merely bashing the show. Until things become more clear, I think a lot of us just want to make sure that the boys aren't forgetting us.

Looking forward to day 2. -asm

[getmeajury]

"Trust us"
Ok, so what am I to trust? Statements made over the last couple months in reference to free xm sucking or statements of late encouraging me that nothing is going to change that everything is going to be ok?

What am I to believe? What was so called sarcasm, what was honest? Perhaps a certain level of sychophantic blindness is required to be able to follow this twisting ever changing buffoonery.

I think that money changes perspective rapidly. Hell if I was to ever attain a sudden level of wealth as the bbboys most certainly have, my perspective on what is hypocracy and what is honest would change to meet the circumstances just as quickly.

At least a semblence of consistancy is required before any level of trust can be attained.

The integrity of the bbboys has been put in question for sure.

And oh yeah, todays show sucked the sweat off dead man balls.

[metakomm]

It will be interesting to see how the guests compare from XM to FreeFM.

It would make sense that the bigger guests will be on FreeFM, but will previous XM guests prefer to be on FreeFM for bigger exposure?

I would have rather heard Joe Rogan on XM, uncensored, laid-back...Not on FreeFM...

[forced2register]

It looks like there will be the usual 1 hour and 50 minutes in a 2 hour XM show.....

It looks like there will be 1 hour and 20 minutes in a 3 hour FM show....

Sounds like a good deal....

[MOTHRA]

I'm still in shock that CBS is getting 3 hours and XM gets 2.

Wha?!

[WMB]

"Annnd we're back, thank's for checking out the Opie and Anthony Show. Remember, if you want to check out more of the Opie and Anthony show you can subscribe to Xm Radio and get the Opie and Anthony show for only $12.99 a month."

Wha?

O&A (uncensored) plus 169 other channels of commercial free music, talk, etc...

[Blake Karringto]

I was as happy as anybody about the deal, its obviously great for the show in a few ways: bigger audience, better guests, higher profile and the "revenge" factor. I love to see the show become bigger. But reality is setting in and its not good.

The guys were right about one thing all this time: terrestrial radio sucks. Theres no way it will be as good it was on XM - it cant be. The freedom to talk about what they want, how they want is gone. The option to broadcast for an hour-and-a-half and take a 5 minute break is gone. Now we get two 15 minute commercial breaks an hour. Now we get to hear about Jimmy "fooling around" with hookers. Its a huge regression anyway you look at it.

The last two hours, to me, wont make up for this. Its still 3 straight hours of a diluted show. Yeah, they did a good job of it in the past, but I think many of us liked the XM show better. We definitely like the freedom of XM better. I remember listening to some of WNEWs best bits post-XM and was insanely frustrated by the terrestrial limitations, and thats where were at now. And some will say "You havent even given it a chance," but lets be honest, its not necessary to "give it a chance" to understand the simple fact that the XM freedom is largely gone. I would love to pretend this made for a better show, but it just doesnt. Its great for O&A, their legacy, their egos and the show as an entity, but its incredibly disappointing for the show in actuality. If it werent for Ron & Fez I would probably cancel XM - and trust me, I dont say that in a spiteful, "Ill show you!" way, but in a real, practical way. Most of the show is now terrestrial and two uncensored hours isnt really worth it to me.

[getmeajury]

Blake Karrinto is an f'in hilarious name! bravo

[MOTHRA]

"Now we get to hear about Jimmy "fooling around" with hookers."

LMAO....I concur.

Big pile of steaming cunt.

[VIGILANTEVINNY]

First time posting, long time fan and 16 month xm subscriber and true pest.
I was going to wait 2 weeks ,but the boards and the show today was a sign of commercial and old bit hell. As paying listeners, even if the run till 12 we get ripped off an hour and change every day and don't give me that line about the language does'nt bother me. That is a part of the show that makes it so different and makes you feel like your hanging with the boys. Now I feel like i'm listening to them in a church or a cooperate meeting. From 9 to 11:30 today very cool. I say we attack the CBS boss and keep the boys in the xm studios and let them bleep what the want. I hate this cautious bull crap. Sorry for the complaints. Just had to vent. I hope this works out for the boys and the pests. Later

[Deadhead]

I just heard the replay.
Excuse me, replayS.
I couldnt listen live because I had to work and I dont live anywhere near a free fm feed.
The commercials weren't that bad (even some new ones-ooooooooo) and a couple of bits I hadn't heard before. Am I wrong, or was there only 2 breaks in the 1st hour? I know they were trying to get together with Imus during the first one.
Good show.
Excuse me, again, showS
I am happy.
Tommorow...even more gooder.

[WMB]

The one thing I will say is I had hoped CBS would have done their editing with a beep rather than dump out of several seconds of audio. At least with that some more things could be said without taking too much away from both the CBS and XM feeds.

There has to be almost a minute of delay, plenty of time to just add a beep or two or 10 if Patrice is in studio.

[bayrat]

Yep, just like I thought the guys are way to stale by the time they get to the XM show. The best they can do is steal glasses from a dumb bitch.... Please, whats on the FOX new channel.

[Skinflute]

So we are only going to have an hour to an hour and a half or replays now?

Is it too much to replay the Free FM show or is this something else we lose?
You realize how many of us listen to replays?
I haven't complained through all this, but this replay shit stinks and I don't like it.

I'll let em work out the tweaks although both shows rocked today.

[getmeajury]

**warning** after several margaritas spelling and or grammar will definately be spotty in the following rant.

Mr E-Lo.
First I would like to give credit where credit is due. The recent O and A change was masterful from a business perspective. I mean a distertation could be written on it for a fancy MBA at many a fine Ivy League school. Lets examine the facets of this masterful plan,
-Get CBS to give you money for OandA, greatly offsetting cost.
-more adevrtisement time on Xm during ridiculously long cbs commercial breaks. Free-FM like time for advertising on a paid medium? How cool is that? It is like having Taco Bell commercials during the Sopranos, brillance I say brillance!
-access to old OandA tapes. Hey free content! Cost to produce equals zero, can fill time (paid for by subscribers) to broadcast old free stuff!
-xm subscribers dupped into paying for a portion of what they can now get for free! Huzzah! The holy grail of economics! Get consumes to pay for what they can get for free, the "get them to pay for air" scenario.
-minimize risk to XM. OandA only on XM for an hour or so, chance of pu8blic relations super nightmare reduced by factor of 75%.

Surely Mr E-Lo, such economist greats as Adam Smith, Marx, and Keynes had nothing on you.

[FatDave]

The show sucked. What's the difference between XM and Commerical radio. They took two hours of our program away for CBS. If I wanted 10 minute commercial breaks I listen to Bob and Tom or the local morning hacks. What really pisses me off is they try to spin it where it looks good for us. What are we fuckin' stupid? They must think so.

They got what they wanted and fuck the XM fans. I don't want to hear a watered down FCC friendly show. I can get that on any FM station.


I know I can flush my unit down the toliet and go fuck my mother.

[turdfrgsn]

the difference was stark, free was fun--imus, rogan, etc, and granted i know anthony was sick, but the xm segment was way better

such is the 'meme' (look that up, that word 'meme') that is emerging

if you like the free, and it's good, the xm is better

"the nicer the nice, the higher the price"
-sly stone
(and if we weren't in pat fucking battle mode--HI GUESTS!!!--i'd post a pic of his big phat fro head, cos that's what i do)

[BuffaloTom]

3 hours of commercial radio = 35 minutes an hour = 105 minutes = 2 hours
2 hours of XM radio a day (do we really think they're regularly going past 11:00?)

That's 2 hours of censored radio and 2 hours of uncensored radio a day.

Before, it was 4 hours of uncensored radio a day.

How is this more show, and why is this better again? More guests? Yeah, I'm sure they'll be clamoring to get on the XM portion, right? Oh, more show, not really. In fact, drive time will have commercials to listen to. The only way this is good for the show is they are now higher profile. Big deal to me, who just likes to listen to funny radio.

[niklbag]

i laughed my balls off during the XM side, the cbs shit was not that "tight" yet

[M.i.S.]

I'm willing to give them a while to get shit settled. I interned for Radio America while they were moving to a new studio upstairs and I know how much of a bitch that can be and how much is involved. (I mean, the scope of such a move is mind-numbing, imagine moving not only to a new studio but also to a new format. Jesus Christ.)

However, parts of the show today were slow. The bits where they played old bits and shit like Twitchells, the face slapping, and the Icy Hot over some hideous loud background music? I could do without that. The show also didn't seem to flow, but I realize that this is because they haven't worked out all the kinks with the Free FM commercials vs. the shorter less frequent XM breaks.
This takes time and I won't make any jugdement until sufficient time has passed... Then I'll be merciless because, as you all well know, I have a keyboard in front of me and therefore know everything about everything, including How To Run A Radio Show.

I will say that Dugout Doug with all his "Poopy face, stupid head" insults was hilarous. (Yeah, Doug, "wind" my ass, you were shaking in your shoes trying not to curse you potty mouth fucker :) ).

I love the boys, I'm a faithful pest, and I'm with em til the end. I'm proud of them that they made CBS lick their assholes clean. Go boys, go.

Ant? Feel better sweetie. Do you need a robe and some soup?

[dirt65]

I'm giving them 2 weeks.

[LifeHacker]

Stop with the bitching! Would you rather them not be on the air? All of you who bitch will continue to listen to the show...What else are you going to listen to? The little doggie company? Well, if thats the case then you know the famous line.

Stop the bitching and just enjoy the show.

[ern]

This takes time and I won't make any jugdement until sufficient time has passed... Then I'll be merciless because, as you all well know, I have a keyboard in front of me and therefore know everything about everything, including How To Run A Radio Show.



I love that. Bravo.

Siriusly (pun intended) though, did anyone notice that they sounded weird on XM today? The FM portion sounded like they were standing away from their microphones. I am interested to know if anyone else had this experience, or if it is just my archaic XM unit (it is almost a year old).

I have posted enough about the other stuff, and do not want to rehash those sentiments. Although I do agree with several posters who have said that they are annoyed by other posters putting them down because they have a different opinion. My 2 cents: If you can't argue a point, don't butt in. Although it is somewhat humorous to see someone lay out a very logical, well researched, and rational post, just to have some clever 15 year old come in and say something retarded like "then flush your XM".

[7cent]

I record the show so the commercials don't affect me. Other then the technical difficulties, I couldn't tell the difference. I actually liked the CBS part of the show better.. good job guys, I can't wait till you really start flowing..

[kralk]

It's not about YOU.

Of course it's about me, I'm the consumer.

That's like saying if you don't like the food at the cafeteria, choke it down anyway because "It's not about YOU".

[kralk]

I like the idea of buying a Myfi to record the show. Oh wait, then I'd have to buy another subscription and pay twice for what is now free. Yeah that's a good solution

[sarcasm on]
What? It's only an extra $300 dollars! You must be a Stern fan! You're not a true O&A fan!
[sarcasm off]

[M.i.S.]

Ern,

No, I noticed it too, like on the Free FM show it sounded like the boys were broadcasting from inside a 55 gallon drum... or something :)

[aromain]

Jesus Christ, that is horseshit.

I would be willing to bet money that the next step is to get CBS comfortable with them, get the ratings and revenue up so that they have more clout, and then go back to XM full time with a delayed and heavily monitored/dumped version on FreeFM from their XM studio.

They can't make that move yet, just as they couldn't be on the regular platform when they first went to XM.

You people are staring at the end of your nose and not looking 10 feet ahead at the brick wall you are running towards.

Try to see the big picture, ok?

Oh yeah ... how much fucking money bigmouth?

I like how you just contradicted yourself in that one post. You talk shit to everyone and trash anyone that doesn't have this "THE CBS MOVE IS THE BEST THING IN THE WORLD" attitude that you have.

I read at least a half a dozen of your posts in which you talk down to every fan that seems somewhat displeased with the current situation calling them douchebags etc. However IN THIS VERY POST you're admitting that you think there is a problem with the way the show is run now.

Get this straight, I didn't write any of my opinions about what is going on because, ... well... no one gives a shit one way or the other. I might as well tell a god damn brick.

However, I noticed that anyone that complains at all gets shit on around here by the so called "dedicated" people. Most everyone writing has been paying for XM exclusivly because of O&A. I'd say thats pretty fucking dedicated, and just because you have a gripe doesnt mean you dont love the boys.


PS: I am Gay

[kralk]

I can’t believe that all of the people complaining have forgotten that O & A were great on free radio before and they will be again. A larger audience is always a good thing, and I look forward to hearing a lot of the old bits I heard from WNEW, and some of the stuff I never heard from Boston, etc. Let ‘em have their day. Relax, enjoy.

I think everybody is worried about the FCC "climate" change today. Yes, they were great on free radio four years ago, but it seems the rules have all changed and they won't be able to do the stuff that we thought was good four years ago.

Additionally, I think once they hit XM, the bar was raised. They were great four years ago, but they are much more greater on (pre 4/26) XM. Now, we have to go back to good?

Maybe the whole FCC crackdown is done and it was just a phase.

[ern]

Ern,

No, I noticed it too, like on the Free FM show it sounded like the boys were broadcasting from inside a 55 gallon drum... or something :)

Thanks, I appreciate the reply. Was hoping it wasn't my unit.

[Spida476]

I've been listening to O&A since they were on XM...didn't have a chance to earlier since they were never on where I lived. The XM show is the best radio show I've ever listened to, with Ron & Fez on XM being a close second. The reason the shows are great is that they can say anything they like and they don't have to take commercial breaks. I HATE commercials, which is why I bought XM in the first place. O&A always go on about how great it is to skip commercials with their TIVO, and they're exactly right...commercials suck donkey cock, which is why I'm quite happy to pay $12.95 a month to not listen to them. If they don't work out something worth listening to on XM when the FM feed goes to commercial, they'll lose every XM listener they have. Of course, they have a lot more listeners on FM than XM, which is why I've concluded this is just a good way to get back to FM and, consequently, more money. I hope I'm proved wrong, but I'm not hopeful.

On the other hand, would I go for the money? You bet your ass I would...being on FM making millions and not being able to curse is a lot better than working on A/C units in the summertime!

[BeezerBlanks]

I actually today only got to hear the "Free FM" part of the show and it was alright. Technical glitches aside it wasn't that bad and I had some laughs. Can't wait to hear how things go after a few weeks.

[BuffaloTom]

Stop with the bitching! Would you rather them not be on the air? All of you who bitch will continue to listen to the show...What else are you going to listen to? The little doggie company? Well, if thats the case then you know the famous line.

Stop the bitching and just enjoy the show.

Yeah, and if you're against the war you're anti-american, right?

[Dr Evil]

I loved the free radio today, being in Boston made me miss them more than anything. Purchasing XM soon to hear them 24/7.

Hopefully this is the boys' goal; get more people on board with the XM and do one great show a day.


Though it will be interesting to see how many people buy Xm when they can't afford to gas their cars.

[Tree Crackhead]

I have a SERIOUS question to the people who are defending O&A no matter what, and this question does not have to do w/ the content of the show. How do you continue to listen w/o feeling that O&A lied to you the last 18 months and sold out by sacrificing the quality of the show for the $ and the fame? I'M NOT ASKING THIS TO BE AN ASSHOLE, I AM COMPLETELY SERIOUS. I'm asking this b/c I'm feeling very used as a fan, and assuming the show continues to be good even w/ the FM thing (which I'm sure it will be good, just not as good), I'm having a hard time listening to the boys w/o feeling like a sucker and a bitch for believing everything they've said when most of it was obviously lies. What made the show so great for me was the honesty that I thought O&A had w/ its audience, and I can't help but feel this has been irreperably damaged. And the constant spinning they're doing DOES NOT HELP. I don't think I'd have as much of a problem if the boys would come out and ADMIT that this was a sell-out of sorts instead of trying to convince us (and themselves) that this will give us a better show, b/c it won't.

[MOTHRA]

It's amazing to me that just a couple of days ago we were all on the same page, everything was tits. We all loved O&A and XM, and hated regular free radio and wanted to watch it die a slow painful death.

Why? Cause O&A said so. The reason why I'm so adament about this because O&A did such a great job convincing me over the last 19 months that this is how it should be.....XM = more gooder, Free Radio = garbage. It really didn't take much convincing as the difference between formats is night and day. Again, up until a couple of days ago, NO ONE would argue this. If I came on these boards 1 month ago and suggested O&A should return to free radio to gain more exposure, you know, edit themselves and play nice....I would have been laughed off these boards and you all know that's true.

Sorry but, just because they snap their fingers and say how great "free fm" is now, doesn't mean I have to buy into it. I have a little more self respect than that. All of a sudden it's OK to like "free radio" just because they are back on it? I don't think so.

My war shall continue.

[Tree Crackhead]

I'm with you Mothra. 100%.

[willis]

Would you rather them not be on the air?

Stop the bitching and just enjoy the show.



wow, that might have been a really insightfull comment 22 months ago, when we were fighting back and forth over what satellite company they would go to..

but since they've been on the air for 18 months, you basically sound like a giant fucking douchebag who can't comprehend basic conversation or form a coherent and valid argument..

[willis]

Additionally, I think once they hit XM, the bar was raised. They were great four years ago, but they are much more greater on (pre 4/26) XM. Now, we have to go back to good?


*ding ding*..

maybe all these "would you rather not have them on the air at all" assfucks are the same dicks who didn't follow the boys to xm and have no idea what the radio show has the potential to be..

sorry, after seeing what the show can be on an unrestricted format, listening to it on freeFM is gayer than shit..

[Tommy Ceez]

I have a SERIOUS question to the people who are defending O&A no matter what, and this question does not have to do w/ the content of the show. How do you continue to listen w/o feeling that O&A lied to you the last 18 months and sold out by sacrificing the quality of the show for the $ and the fame? I'M NOT ASKING THIS TO BE AN ASSHOLE, I AM COMPLETELY SERIOUS. I'm asking this b/c I'm feeling very used as a fan, and assuming the show continues to be good even w/ the FM thing (which I'm sure it will be good, just not as good), I'm having a hard time listening to the boys w/o feeling like a sucker and a bitch for believing everything they've said when most of it was obviously lies. What made the show so great for me was the honesty that I thought O&A had w/ its audience, and I can't help but feel this has been irreperably damaged. And the constant spinning they're doing DOES NOT HELP. I don't think I'd have as much of a problem if the boys would come out and ADMIT that this was a sell-out of sorts instead of trying to convince us (and themselves) that this will give us a better show, b/c it won't.
Heres a hint, when your asking 'not to be an asshole' and you have 20 posts, you probably should phrase it differently.

[frankjg]

I'm giving them 2 weeks.

Are ya? Are ya really? and then what?

[Devilock]

I am sure this post adds nothing new to the debate, but I wanted to make my voice heard.

Free FM was absolutly horrid. Total change in the energy after thy made the switch to XM. The commercial breaks were the worst. THE WORST!

I don't know if I can handle the FM show. Sorry b-b-boys...we'll see.

[Tommy Ceez]

I have a SERIOUS question to the people who are defending O&A no matter what, and this question does not have to do w/ the content of the show. How do you continue to listen w/o feeling that O&A lied to you the last 18 months and sold out by sacrificing the quality of the show for the $ and the fame? I'M NOT ASKING THIS TO BE AN ASSHOLE, I AM COMPLETELY SERIOUS. I'm asking this b/c I'm feeling very used as a fan, and assuming the show continues to be good even w/ the FM thing (which I'm sure it will be good, just not as good), I'm having a hard time listening to the boys w/o feeling like a sucker and a bitch for believing everything they've said when most of it was obviously lies. What made the show so great for me was the honesty that I thought O&A had w/ its audience, and I can't help but feel this has been irreperably damaged. And the constant spinning they're doing DOES NOT HELP. I don't think I'd have as much of a problem if the boys would come out and ADMIT that this was a sell-out of sorts instead of trying to convince us (and themselves) that this will give us a better show, b/c it won't.
Heres a hint, when your asking 'not to be an asshole' and you have 20 posts, you probably should phrase it differently.

BTW, to answer you question, XM is in a mad dash for profitability, and I believe that they make a profit off simulcasting the show, and can defer the inflated cost of O&A's salary during the next contract to CBS...if XM really wanted to block this deal, they would have done so...I think THEY wanted this worse than O&A.

MY THEORY ONLY...they had no way (with the two years off) to hook NON subscribers on O&A, yet were deathly afraid of not being able to pay them what they deserved...so now the theory is hook FREE FM listeners with O&A, and KEEP them with commercial free music and sports.

REMEMBER that 90% of Stern's audience did not care about less breaks or curses...if a show with a built in audience cannot convince people to move, a show that was off the air for 2 years had less of a chance.

PLUS do NOT discount the availibility of the INNO and HELIX, and the cheaper XM2GO's as a driving force behind the decision to allow longer breaks on the show.

Anywho, quick story, after being friendly with the securit guard at my building for 2 years, I walk in the office and hear him listening to O&A...never would have thunk him as a listener...I think 75+% of morning show listeners are passive listeners, who background a show....but these people matter to sponsors.

[Tree Crackhead]

Heres a hint, when your asking 'not to be an asshole' and you have 20 posts, you probably should phrase it differently.

I guess I was going to get unintelligent, meaningless responses like this no matter what I prefaced my post with. I think what you're trying to say is:

[ANGRY TYPING GUY] I'M A BIGGER FAN AND SMARTER PERSON THAN YOU B/C I'VE BEEN ON WACKBAG LONGER AND MADE MORE POSTS THAN YOU. I LISTEN TO EVERYTHING O&A HAVE TO SAY AND I QUESTION NOTHING, B/C THEY ARE MY HEROES AND I AM BUT A WORTHLESS FOLLOWER WHO LICKS THEIR ASSES. [/ANGRY TYPING GUY]

[Tree Crackhead]

Heres a hint, when your asking 'not to be an asshole' and you have 15 posts, you probably should phrase it differently.

BTW, to answer you question, XM is in a mad dash for profitability, and I believe that they make a profit off simulcasting the show, and can defer the inflated cost of O&A's salary during the next contract to CBS...if XM really wanted to block this deal, they would have done so...I think THEY wanted this worse than O&A.

MY THEORY ONLY...they had no way (with the two years off) to hook NON subscribers on O&A, yet were deathly afraid of not being able to pay them what they deserved...so now the theory is hook FREE FM listeners with O&A, and KEEP them with commercial free music and sports.

PLUS do NOT discount the availibility of the INNO and HELIX, and the cheaper XM2GO's as a driving force behind the decision to allow longer breaks on the show.


Well thank you for a response. You added it while I was typing my last comment.

[willis]

Heres a hint, when your asking 'not to be an asshole' and you have 20 posts, you probably should phrase it differently.


here's a hint.. when you have nine hundred and some posts, don't double fucking post


:action-sm ... just whoring thru, don't mind the man behind the curtain

[MOTHRA]

Truth is that EVERYONE knows it was horrid and EVERYONE knows it's not going to be as good as the XM show was. Give em a couple of weeks?!?!?! I'll give them a couple of YEARS! It's not going to be as good. Period. Can't and won't.

All the people that are saying "everything will be fine" are shitting in their pants and HOPING that "everything will be fine".

[PuddingChest]

Some people have posted the early days of XM 202 werent very good either. I thought some of the greatest bits were from that time. The Danza bits were some of the best cringe radio Ive ever heard. I think the Free FM show sucked. Its a shame but its better to now record the show on your MYFI and listen later so you can skip all those long commercial breaks. However I do think there is something missing by not listening to the show live. Oh well. Ill be listening but if the show does not get better there might be a pest revolt.

[milehighmg]

I never heard of O&A untill I bought my first XM subscription, and even then I did not give the show a try untill it came off the premium and became a part of basics XM subscription. I guess in the terms of WNEW listeners I am an O&A newbie. It took one day to catch the virus, and 95% of my listening time since was spent on XM 202 with the boys. What I heard today was shit. Even fucking Jimmy sounded tame. Not being a regular show calling activist PEST, I wonder: what would happen if the PEST community organized a call in during the CBS broadcast hours and used s much Vulgarity as possible? Just fucking let it go, profanity, racial and sexist remarks, whatever. Will they boys dump out, or screen phone calls for the tame callers? I can't immagine that a "Ramone get this cunt off the air!" phone call would pass on Free fucking FM, even with beeping words out. I'm raising these points because as XM subscribers we ARE or rather WERE the main sponsors of the show. And as that we were given exactly what we wanted an unfettered brilliant and entertaining show, edgy and free of restrictions as to content, language, or topic. Now at least during the first 3 hours, we are competing with corporate sponsors, who will demand a tamer show, and most definitely will get it. Sorry for the free form rant folks, I'm just bummed.

[supertool]

In my honest opinion, I feel that no matter how bad their FM show gets, it will never be as bad as that moron Hoo Hoo. I got XM to listen to Opie and Anthony, I am going to stick by them....NO MATTER WHAT!

Yay, maybee you'll get an O&A merit badge for loyalty.

[Tommy Ceez]

Well thank you for a response. You added it while I was typing my last comment.
Now who's silly?

[Tommy Ceez]

here's a hint.. when you have nine hundred and some posts, don't double fucking post


:action-sm ... just whoring thru, don't mind the man behind the curtain
How do you think I got 900 posts?

Look at you, if you double posted, you'd be where I am now!

[Tommy Ceez]

I never heard of O&A untill I bought my first XM subscription, and even then I did not give the show a try untill it came off the premium and became a part of basics XM subscription. I guess in the terms of WNEW listeners I am an O&A newbie. It took one day to catch the virus, and 95% of my listening time since was spent on XM 202 with the boys. What I heard today was shit. Even fucking Jimmy sounded tame. Not being a regular show calling activist PEST, I wonder: what would happen if the PEST community organized a call in during the CBS broadcast hours and used s much Vulgarity as possible? Just fucking let it go, profanity, racial and sexist remarks, whatever. Will they boys dump out, or screen phone calls for the tame callers? I can't immagine that a "Ramone get this cunt off the air!" phone call would pass on Free fucking FM, even with beeping words out. I'm raising these points because as XM subscribers we ARE or rather WERE the main sponsors of the show. And as that we were given exactly what we wanted an unfettered brilliant and entertaining show, edgy and free of restrictions as to content, language, or topic. Now at least during the first 3 hours, we are competing with corporate sponsors, who will demand a tamer show, and most definitely will get it. Sorry for the free form rant folks, I'm just bummed.
Considering that 95% of the more active wackbaggers are WNEW listeners, we are not a balls-out paranoid by this move, so it wouldnt really go too far.

SEE, YOU CAN HAVE ONE POST AND STILL POST A DISAGREEMENT IN A HUMAN MANNER!

[willis]

How do you think I got 900 posts?

Look at you, if you double posted, you'd be where I am now!


good point sir, good point...

[whoisisthis]

I truly hope that this CBS deal goes down in flames


fuck the a-list guests, I want dick jokes

[Dr Evil]

fuck the a-list guests, I want dick jokes


Bravo

[bevis]

First post ever...im going with the stewie griffin way of commenting on the show today. say something positive, areas to improve, say something positive.

positive...i got to listen to the guys at my job which would frown on the XM content show. which i got to listen to the good stuff when i got home. nice.

areas to improve...does CBS have to have that many commercials to pay the guys salary? and what was with the interview with the catholic lawyer guy? i wanted so bad to do the homer thing...BORING! as jimmy would say...it stinks and i dont like it.

positive...the O&A flashbacks during the FM commercials was excellent. i was in tears with Ant's version of andrew dice gay!! the only benefit of having XM kids...switch to the satellite when CBS has to pay the bills.

[nneptune]

It's amazing to me that just a couple of days ago we were all on the same page, everything was tits. We all loved O&A and XM, and hated regular free radio and wanted to watch it die a slow painful death.

Why? Cause O&A said so. The reason why I'm so adament about this because O&A did such a great job convincing me over the last 19 months that this is how it should be.....XM = more gooder, Free Radio = garbage. It really didn't take much convincing as the difference between formats is night and day. Again, up until a couple of days ago, NO ONE would argue this. If I came on these boards 1 month ago and suggested O&A should return to free radio to gain more exposure, you know, edit themselves and play nice....I would have been laughed off these boards and you all know that's true.

Sorry but, just because they snap their fingers and say how great "free fm" is now, doesn't mean I have to buy into it. I have a little more self respect than that. All of a sudden it's OK to like "free radio" just because they are back on it? I don't think so.

My war shall continue.


agreed. I loved the XM-only show. I don't agree with their "we didn't sell out, we bought in" line. It's a shame. I really loved the fact that they could go 90 minutes ata time without a break. I really don't listen for "better guests", I listen(ed) for the alternative to FCC crap!

[supertool]

**warning** after several margaritas spelling and or grammar will definately be spotty in the following rant.

Mr E-Lo.
First I would like to give credit where credit is due. The recent O and A change was masterful from a business perspective. I mean a distertation could be written on it for a fancy MBA at many a fine Ivy League school. Lets examine the facets of this masterful plan,
-Get CBS to give you money for OandA, greatly offsetting cost.
-more adevrtisement time on Xm during ridiculously long cbs commercial breaks. Free-FM like time for advertising on a paid medium? How cool is that? It is like having Taco Bell commercials during the Sopranos, brillance I say brillance!
-access to old OandA tapes. Hey free content! Cost to produce equals zero, can fill time (paid for by subscribers) to broadcast old free stuff!
-xm subscribers dupped into paying for a portion of what they can now get for free! Huzzah! The holy grail of economics! Get consumes to pay for what they can get for free, the "get them to pay for air" scenario.
-minimize risk to XM. OandA only on XM for an hour or so, chance of pu8blic relations super nightmare reduced by factor of 75%.

Surely Mr E-Lo, such economist greats as Adam Smith, Marx, and Keynes had nothing on you.


Brilliance. You sir, get a clappy hand.:clap: Fuck it. Here's another one.:clap:

[nneptune]

Honestly, the boys have said it themselves..that they're really afraid of the pests. I feel a revolt coming on.

[Tree Crackhead]

agreed. I loved the XM-only show. I don't agree with their "we didn't sell out, we bought in" line. It's a shame. I really loved the fact that they could go 90 minutes ata time without a break. I really don't listen for "better guests", I listen(ed) for the alternative to FCC crap!

As I said earlier - if they guys would just admit that they sold out, I think it would get a lot of the fans that are pissed at them back on their side a little more. For me personally, their continuous lying that this will make a BETTER show is sickening. 99% of us would "sell out," if it meant more exposure for the show and more money. Just admit it, and let's move on - stop spinning this and acting like the listeners are all morons.

[supertool]

Perhaps this fella could spin "Free Radio" a little more succinctly.

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h128/supertool1/Baghdadbob.jpg

[Devilock]

I am just thankful that Ron & Fez are on XM.

I feel pretty let down by the boys for their total outright hyprocricy and relentless spin doctoring with regard to the move...or whatever it is you want to call the poor excuse for a radio show they'll be dishing out on CBS.

I sure as shit don't want to pay for XM only to hear a censored show that's riddled with Worst of bits that I already got sitting on my hard disc (thanks OAVirus!) and the truth is I dont need or want XM for anything else other than 202.

And, they gave FM the prime hours!?!?!? Elo? Why!?? If you want us to keep paying for XM...this is not the way to convince us.

I'll probably just end up downloading MP3's of the show off Easynews in the furture. I can't sit and listen to 6 hours of straight radio a day anyway without missing something...no matter how much I might want to. At some point I'm going to have to eat or shit, or work?

More isn't always more gooder boys. To use the ole two girls analogy...I'd rather fuck the hottest chick at the bar like an animal for 15 minutes, than the fat sloppy chick at the end of the night for the whole weekend.

This ultimately boils down to an issue of respect with me...respect for your audience and fans. Don't fucking lie to us! Don't bother. Don't sell me a a Volkswagen and tell me its a Porsche.

We all know the difference!

[M.i.S.]

Yay, maybee you'll get an O&A merit badge for loyalty.

TeeHee, like this one?

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/1149/meritbadgeforloyalty5dj.jpg

[magnus420]

i thought it was great simply because its an hour more of ona, and im not in a market where i get them on free fm, so that part doesnt matter at all.

[BillSkinsFifth]

It's one fucking day, the audio is fucked up, and Anthony is sick as shit. They're going to do that intro stuff in different cities to be introduced to the fans. Some people are complaining about a watered down show, but what made me laugh like hell on xm (the cringe of the 'smashing glasses') could just as well have been done on cbs. I'm not in one of the select 7 cities, so I wouldn't make a switch anyways. Also, I listen to the replays to catch the show. I listen to the show at work, so the longer time of the show, even if there are more commercials, makes my work day better.

The commercials didn't bother me as much as I'd expected them to. I was expecting much, much worse. The fm show will come together more as time goes on. I don't think any different guests would mean too much to me, but I do enjoy hearing people call in that aren't the usual callers from this message board or anywhere else. That's part of the problem with Stern...he has the same asses calling all day with no real interaction. Much of what I found funny before, and think I'll enjoy now, is more good stuff from the fans and interaction with those who hate them.

I'm looking forward to the radio wars in some of these cities with pests becoming a pain in the ass to other shows. One more thing...they aren't leaving xm to take over middays in Des Moines....it's fucking morning drive in New York. As much as I'm a fan of xm, I'm more a fan of their show. I enjoy the short commercial breaks and the occasional cunt thrown into the show, but this is still there. I would have paid for the wnew show when they came back to xm, with commercials and censorship. I did love the 4 hour show and it's gone, but how much can you really take out of what they did today?

I enjoyed the cbs show, with audio difficulties aside, and look forward to hearing it again tomorrow. What's being done on xm is still worth the cost of the subscription to me (though I understand the points some of you make based on when you listen).

I'm not trying to defend them no matter what happens, but I enjoyed today's show and hearing the potential for where they'll be taking the show on both cbs and xm.

[Pig_Benis]

As I said earlier - 99% of us would "sell out," if it meant more exposure for the show and more money. Just admit it, and let's move on - stop spinning this and acting like the listeners are all morons.

So when you do something for more exposure and a pay raise you're a sell out? Please elaborate a little further on that, because I can't figure it out.

I tend to laugh at a lot of the people who are mad? When they were on XM only, we all wanted more advertising and exposure for the show. You all wanted them to get huge, and now they will blow up even bigger then we could imagine. Its going to help XM more then FreeFM. People will buy into XM to hear the "good stuff" that everyone knows is unavalible on the FreeFM format. It really is the ultimate selling tool from XM's side.

Remember that XM is the future of radio (whether or not you bought it for only O&A, as I did) and millions of people are going to realize that once again when O&A really hit their groove. This is the greatest deal XM ever could have made. A lot of people have short memories and these, "first time in 4 years" people will eventually buy into XM and it is all going to work out in our favor.

[Hobo_Cum]

I've been listening to the boys since the first day they came on WBCN in boston for the first time. I listened to those shows religiously and have continued to be a loyal listener (if not as active as some) on XM. I loved the original days and ive become an even bigger fan since the move to XM. I don't like many of the specifics of the deal, starting with the fact that they have to fucking change studios mid-show, and the fact that they arent allowed to continue broadcasting live to XM during CBS breaks, (a post I read previously had mentioned the fact that opie has every ability to bring in the CBS audience from commercial without losing any continuity)

I think after they get comfortable in the CBS's studios again they will be doing great radio, but it will never be as good content-wise as the XM only show. Hopefully O&A can tease the craziness of XM enough to get enough subs' to in the future say "FUCK YOU" completely to free-fm. We all know that Sat radio will become the dominant radio medium eventually...

I dont know why the fuck im posting this except its cathartic or something to get the emotions/thoughts out.... god i just got douche chills

"RAMOOOOOOONE GET THIS MAN SOME FANCY TISSUES"

[Blake Karringto]

I tend to laugh at a lot of the people who are mad? When they were on XM only, we all wanted more advertising and exposure for the show.

We wanted more advertising for the show, not on the show. We also wanted advertising for the show we loved at the time - the full, uncensored XM show. We didnt want a watered down show. And its indisputable that the show will be watered down. Its not an issue whether or not they can still do good radio in a watered-down environment, its that they do a much, much better show in the real XM environment, and thats taken a major backseat and has been replaced with terrestrial radio (the brand of radio we were all laughing at and hating on just a few months ago).

You all wanted them to get huge, and now they will blow up even bigger then we could imagine. Its going to help XM more then FreeFM. People will buy into XM to hear the "good stuff" that everyone knows is unavalible on the FreeFM format. It really is the ultimate selling tool from XM's side.

The dynamics are different now. Of course we want them to get huge, but we wanted everyone to hear the great, uncensored show we were hearing. I care about XM relative to O&A - if O&A leave, I will likely no longer root for XM. The idea applies, to a lesser extent, to if O&A put out a watered-down show. If more than half of the show is diluted for regular radio standards, it no longer matters to me that people buy XM. The two hours dont cut it, not when we had a full show.

Remember that XM is the future of radio (whether or not you bought it for only O&A, as I did) and millions of people are going to realize that once again once O&A really hit their groove.

I think many of us are more concerned with the shows content than XMs future.

This is the greatest deal XM ever could have made. A lot of people have short memories and these, "first time in 4 years" people will eventually buy into XM and it is all going to work out in our favor.

How does this work out in our favor? My favor is having the show we had - 4 hours of uncensored O&A a day, not 3 hours of FCC adherence and 15 minute commercial breaks. My favor is not XMs subscription count.

[Tree Crackhead]

So when you do something for more exposure and a pay raise you're a sell out? Please elaborate a little further on that, because I can't figure it out.


Can you oversimplify this any more? If you've listened to the XM show you know exactly what I mean. When you compromise the integrity of your art (the boys called what they do art a while ago), knowing that even if you pull off a good show, it still will not be as good as the previous version, and you do this for more exposure and a pay raise, I would personally call you a sell out. Throw in hypocrite too while we're at it for all of the terrestrial radio bashing the boys did before they could get back on it themselves. I got the douche chills when Anthony used the line "we're not selling out, we're buying in." Please Anthony, you're not fooling anyone. There's no shame in selling out, but there's shame in assuming your listeners are all morons and trying to spin something that cannot be spun. You sacrificed the quality of the show for $$ and exposure, IT'S OK, just don't treat us like fucking retards. We're not getting MORE show as the boys tried spinning, and most of us don't give a flying fuck about the guests you have on the show. I'm getting so angry just thinking about all this. I'm off to bed. I can't wait for some boring, FCC friendly, commercial-laden radio in the morning. WOO-fucking-HOO.

[Pig_Benis]

Blake I guess you'll be dropping XM now then, since its no longer worth it for you to listen.

[Blake Karringto]

Blake I guess you'll be dropping XM now then, since its no longer worth it for you to listen.

As Ive said, Im sticking around for Ron & Fez. I will be dropping one of my subs though. Way to address my points though.

[BitWrecker]

As I said earlier - if they guys would just admit that they sold out, I think it would get a lot of the fans that are pissed at them back on their side a little more. For me personally, their continuous lying that this will make a BETTER show is sickening. 99% of us would "sell out," if it meant more exposure for the show and more money. Just admit it, and let's move on - stop spinning this and acting like the listeners are all morons.

As i said before, exposing themselves to their old markets and old and new audience, is not selling out.

500 million bucks and blowing off 90% of your audience is.. See the difference.

[BeezerBlanks]

It's one fucking day, the audio is fucked up, and Anthony is sick as shit. They're going to do that intro stuff in different cities to be introduced to the fans. Some people are complaining about a watered down show, but what made me laugh like hell on xm (the cringe of the 'smashing glasses') could just as well have been done on cbs. I'm not in one of the select 7 cities, so I wouldn't make a switch anyways. Also, I listen to the replays to catch the show. I listen to the show at work, so the longer time of the show, even if there are more commercials, makes my work day better.

The commercials didn't bother me as much as I'd expected them to. I was expecting much, much worse. The fm show will come together more as time goes on. I don't think any different guests would mean too much to me, but I do enjoy hearing people call in that aren't the usual callers from this message board or anywhere else. That's part of the problem with Stern...he has the same asses calling all day with no real interaction. Much of what I found funny before, and think I'll enjoy now, is more good stuff from the fans and interaction with those who hate them.

I'm looking forward to the radio wars in some of these cities with pests becoming a pain in the ass to other shows. One more thing...they aren't leaving xm to take over middays in Des Moines....it's fucking morning drive in New York. As much as I'm a fan of xm, I'm more a fan of their show. I enjoy the short commercial breaks and the occasional cunt thrown into the show, but this is still there. I would have paid for the wnew show when they came back to xm, with commercials and censorship. I did love the 4 hour show and it's gone, but how much can you really take out of what they did today?

I enjoyed the cbs show, with audio difficulties aside, and look forward to hearing it again tomorrow. What's being done on xm is still worth the cost of the subscription to me (though I understand the points some of you make based on when you listen).

I'm not trying to defend them no matter what happens, but I enjoyed today's show and hearing the potential for where they'll be taking the show on both cbs and xm.

You sir are a scholar and a gentleman.... oh yeah and you type good too. :icon_mrgr I really agree with what your saying in that this will be a change for the show in good ways, ie: more radio competition (if you can call it that) more pest attacks, more random occasional listeners which gives way to more "victims" for contests.
I mean seriously O&A have said it time and time again, most of their listeners are guys and its like a sausage fest where ever they go (not referring to ant's hog either). This will open the show to more woman/girlfriends/wives etc and hopefully get more girls wowing and I pray to god the return of the 55gallon drum challenge.
Hell while its arguable, unless theres a really hot off the presses topic, the beginning of the show seems to be slower anyway. Mostly cause everyones a little tired, late night cat-ty jimmy especially.

I do see the other sides points about a watered down show but will you fuck faces just relax until the b-boys get settled in? Maybe there'll be more changes further down the line. Perhaps even 1 studio or if they could do 1 set of commercial breaks a hour which would be only a bit longer than the food/shit breaks on XM now as it is. This new CBS show also breaks up the PAD data a bit more too.

[BitWrecker]

Blake, please refrain from using "WE" unless there are multiple listeners in your home who agree with you. If that is the case, then specify it and don't speak for the patient people on this board and around the country

[Blake Karringto]

As i said before, exposing themselves to their old markets and old and new audience, is not selling out.

And how are they reaching that new audience? By trading in most of the freedom theyve had since coming to XM.

Im not going the "sell-out" route - I think O&A genuinely think is a great thing, and it is from their perspective - but your point doesnt fly.

500 million bucks and blowing off 90% of your audience is.. See the difference.

No. Stern got a huge paycheck, but he also got freedom from the lameness of terrestrial radio.

[Tree Crackhead]

As i said before, exposing themselves to their old markets and old and new audience, is not selling out.

500 million bucks and blowing off 90% of your audience is.. See the difference.

I hate Howard IMMENSELY, but can we stop w/ constant O&A vs. HOO HOO comparisons? Do you think they're not getting paid for "exposing themselves to their old markets and new audiences?" Are they doing this out of the goodness of their hearts? What about the negative effects this will have on the uncensored show they've been raving about while on XM? The brainwashing and spin doctoring that has taken place really gets my blood boiling. I'm out. 'Night.

[Blake Karringto]

Blake, please refrain from using "WE" unless there are multiple listeners in your home who agree with you. If that is the case, then specify it and don't speak for the patient people on this board and around the country

I used "we" because the poster I quoted directed his words to "you all." If it helps, just assume Im speaking for those of us who are disappointed with the deal and not every O&A fan - because thats what I was doing. Maybe youd like to dispute what I said?

We wanted more advertising for the show, not on the show.

I guess you wanted more advertising on the show.

We also wanted advertising for the show we loved at the time - the full, uncensored XM show.

I guess you prefer terrestrial radio and all of the awesome limitations it grants us.

We didnt want a watered down show.

I guess you wanted a watered down show.

[PuddingChest]

As Homer put it, todays FM show was "Boring"

[Garyisajoke]

Remember that XM is the future of radio (whether or not you bought it for only O&A, as I did) and millions of people are going to realize that once again when O&A really hit their groove. This is the greatest deal XM ever could have made. A lot of people have short memories and these, "first time in 4 years" people will eventually buy into XM and it is all going to work out in our favor.


I don't own stock in XM so i could give a fuck about the future. the minute the boys got back into the XM studios, they were discussing trying not to curse or say anything that the FCC wouldn't like.

Anthony said to Jimmy something along the lines of, "Yeah, I saw you had a great line at one point but you had to keep it to yourself." That sums it all up. And by the way, the XM portion of the show is basically sloppy seconds. "Well now that we've gone through everything, let's either rehash it uncensored or just do something to fill time." Yay.

[25133WhooOoAH]

i wish the show was 4 hours on Xm like it was, this pisses me off, cuz now you have to hear 2 diff shows everyday?

yeah i got the idea that the 2hour son xm will be a wrap up on what they just did and do w/e to pass the time, there real concern now is to do the show on fm/xm the best , and the 2nd half is like just to please us but it confuses me, wtf couldnt they have there thing on XM i loved that shit 4 hours of good uncensored radio everyday now its 3 hours of good radio , it wasnt even bad today but the 2nd half i dotn get its stupid, just do a full show in one studio - the walk back to the xm studios makes no sence, the flow of the show is shot, and the first 3 hours today were liek every 20 minutes they took a 10 minute break, it felt watered down

[Horse Eye Kid]

Opie from a few months ago: "Free-FM: You get what you pay for..."

But now we're actually paying 12 bucks a month. I can't believe there isn't solidarity among Wackbaggers against this.


I am with you on this one. I know I'll get attacked, but there are too many kiss assers here who think that the show can do no wrong. How would all the "loyalists" feel if the show went exclusively to Free FM? Would it still be "I think it will be great, O&A have always made it work" ??? I personally liked what we had, I agree with many here that say do your XM show, let CBS or anyone take a feed and edit. I also agree with many here that this deal was more about getting at Stern and being on live in NYC. I do also agree that the FM listener base (unfaithful bunch as they are) are not the pests, and would not buy that billboard to attack the Philips Phile. See if your Free FM audience does shit like that.

I feel, as an XM listener, like I got royally fucked in the ass. I was not around for the WNEW days, and I don't give a shit about those days. We all had history. I'm a huge Steeler fan, but wasn't in the 1970's, so what? I'm chastised for being a "recent" fan. I paid the money to get show, now half the show goes to catering to the CHEAP FUCKS (AKA - HARD CORE FANS??) who didn't follow O&A to XM, because they're too stupid, or too cheap, or whatever. Not my problem, I was on board, fuck these lame asses. I picked up on XM in November 04, so my history is from then until now, and that's the best fucking show I've EVER heard, and now we get half or less. My letter to Elo (eric.logan@xmradio.com) and Hugh Panero (mailed a letter) addressed the fact that I have been on board since then, because I wanted to GET AWAY FROM COMMERCIAL RADIO, not go back to it. Now, we're back to it. I bought XM to get away from all that shit, and now my favorite show is all about it. We've been ass-***** by XM for sure, by letting this deal get going. I am not cancelling, so they win there. I will listen, so they win there too. I guess we're just fucked.

I agree, there should be some contacting of XM of subscribers who are not happy. Do your part to at least make your feelings known. It probably will not do any good at all, but you have to make an effort. It was the pests who got the Direct TV deal back, was it not? Can't we have a voice at least, without being decreed traitors and Stern fans and being told to go flush and fuck your mother? Isn't this what happened to anyone who spoke against Bush following 9/11? If you didn't agree with the goverment, you weren't a patriot. If you don't agree on Wackbag with pre XM fans, or you just don't like this move, you're considered not a real fan? I think even Sexhoagie said something like that, "well, just don't listen then if you don't like it." Dissention should be allowed here.

Holy shit, this is too long, I have to stop. This is great ice tea. Out.

[25133WhooOoAH]

i feel fucked 2, im sorry if im complaining like many others on here, but this sucks - dont give a shit, if you start making your points, i loved the show on xm cuz it was one show, now peopel will be comparing the fm show and the xm show , like there enemies, i want ONE FUCKING SHOW

[Lacrossedragon]

Stern will follow... By June O7. I'm almost sure of it.


I just kinda miss the swearing the first few hours... It's weird. The last 2 hours were great ol' O&A.


But to those who only listen to O&A and no other show/channel on XM I see why you're all so pissed. But I love my XM, and going back to FM would be impossible for me. I'm just hoping we always get 2.5/3 hours of show. And damnit I don't want to hear Extasy of Gold or whatever, at 9 I want to hear them fucking speaking and not wasting even more of their time.

[25133WhooOoAH]

I am with you on this one. I know I'll get attacked, but there are too many kiss assers here who think that the show can do no wrong. How would all the "loyalists" feel if the show went exclusively to Free FM? Would it still be "I think it will be great, O&A have always made it work" ??? I personally liked what we had, I agree with many here that say do your XM show, let CBS or anyone take a feed and edit. I also agree with many here that this deal was more about getting at Stern and being on live in NYC. I do also agree that the FM listener base (unfaithful bunch as they are) are not the pests, and would not buy that billboard to attack the Philips Phile. See if your Free FM audience does shit like that.

I feel, as an XM listener, like I got royally fucked in the ass. I was not around for the WNEW days, and I don't give a shit about those days. We all had history. I'm a huge Steeler fan, but wasn't in the 1970's, so what? I'm chastised for being a "recent" fan. I paid the money to get show, now half the show goes to catering to the CHEAP FUCKS (AKA - HARD CORE FANS??) who didn't follow O&A to XM, because they're too stupid, or too cheap, or whatever. Not my problem, I was on board, fuck these lame asses. I picked up on XM in November 04, so my history is from then until now, and that's the best fucking show I've EVER heard, and now we get half or less. My letter to Elo (eric.logan@xmradio.com) and Hugh Panero (mailed a letter) addressed the fact that I have been on board since then, because I wanted to GET AWAY FROM COMMERCIAL RADIO, not go back to it. Now, we're back to it. I bought XM to get away from all that shit, and now my favorite show is all about it. We've been ass-***** by XM for sure, by letting this deal get going. I am not cancelling, so they win there. I will listen, so they win there too. I guess we're just fucked.

I agree, there should be some contacting of XM of subscribers who are not happy. Do your part to at least make your feelings known. It probably will not do any good at all, but you have to make an effort. It was the pests who got the Direct TV deal back, was it not? Can't we have a voice at least, without being decreed traitors and Stern fans and being told to go flush and fuck your mother? Isn't this what happened to anyone who spoke against Bush following 9/11? If you didn't agree with the goverment, you weren't a patriot. If you don't agree on Wackbag with pre XM fans, or you just don't like this move, you're considered not a real fan? I think even Sexhoagie said something like that, "well, just don't listen then if you don't like it." Dissention should be allowed here.

Holy shit, this is too long, I have to stop. This is great ice tea. Out.

perfect point, just cuz we dont agree with this? all the peopel not liking this deal are getting bashed and are not loyal?

ive been listening to opie and anthoyn since wnew and bought xm as soon as they came on, im very faithful and i feel like i got fucked in the ass, we all wanted to get away from SHITTY FM radio, worst music, horrible programming, fucking hour long commercials, On xm they had all the freedom to talk about ANYTHING on there minds , making there show even more relatable - XM only was top of there game and now there back on fm which they were bashing months before how shitty it is, and now for the first 3 hours everyday we get an fm version of them, pfffffffffff!

[blazin]

geez, all this debate is getting annoying. It is what is it and I doubt its gonna change. We got XM to listen to the boys - because thats where they got signed. If another terrestrial station decided to pick them up in Oct 04 we'd all be happy as pigs in shit just because they were back on the air. Im basically gonna repeat what all the positive people are saying - this deal opens up huge opportunites for the show. I remember listening to O&A 4 years ago on FM thinking it was the most amazing radio I've ever heard. Sure, XM uncensored content is nice and I think we've all gotten so used to it that alot of people think they are getting jipped - but its still a great show regardless - because O&A have talent. Don't forget - we still have the XM show, but now we have a whole new dimension which is massive exposure. This adds so much to the program...one thing I think the XM show lacked was the audience. I mean they couldnt even have good contests with prizes that would bring people in the studio because of the lack of sponsors/prizes. What was the best thing O&A gave away, a $300 MyFi? Didnt wackbaggers come together with the 2 grand for Patty? Im excited, because I know what O&A can do - on FM, XM...wherever....In my opinion we have the best of both worlds now.. Just my $.02

[lowlife]

after reading through these post all i can say is.........

"HowardsYamBag needs to fall in a bucket of aids"!!!!...........

what a pompus, self-serving ass........

[MOTHRA]

Well, the good thing about having 2 shows is that it will be real easy to compare them and see which is actually better.

Yes...I do know that it's only been 2 days but, so far the score goes like this.

Free FM 0, XM 2

45 minutes into the XM show and it's already better than the Free FM show.

[Joeycasz]

Jesus Christ, that is horseshit.

I would be willing to bet money that the next step is to get CBS comfortable with them, get the ratings and revenue up so that they have more clout, and then go back to XM full time with a delayed and heavily monitored/dumped version on FreeFM from their XM studio.

They can't make that move yet, just as they couldn't be on the regular platform when they first went to XM.

You people are staring at the end of your nose and not looking 10 feet ahead at the brick wall you are running towards.

Try to see the big picture, ok?



You make it sound like you've been in meetings and know what the game plan is. How the fuck do you know what the game plan is? I'm hoping it works out in the end but you should get their balls out of your mouth for a second to see what's happening "NOW".

[Joeycasz]

Who do you think knows more about making funny radio and succeeding? You, or O&A?



Lets be realistic here for a sec. As long as there is a second studio that they have to go to where they can be laid back and do a show that is uncensored and thrown out there, the first show will always be timid, held back and skidish because they will ALWAYS be in that mindset in the morning(6-9). One studio, a bigger delay and an XM feed to CBS is what HAS to happen.

[getmeajury]

Perhaps this fella could spin "Free Radio" a little more succinctly.

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h128/supertool1/Baghdadbob.jpg


I wonder what happened to that guy? LOL

:clap:

[MOTHRA]

Lets be realistic here for a sec. As long as there is a second studio that they have to go to where they can be laid back and do a show that is uncensored and thrown out there, the first show will always be timid, held back and skidish because they will ALWAYS be in that mindset in the morning(6-9). One studio, a bigger delay and an XM feed to CBS is what HAS to happen.

God I hope that's the plan.

Are O&A playing it like a couple of drug dealers? Get the people hooked on the free shit, then take it away and charge them out the ass? By take it away I mean do as you said. Go back to XM and give CBS a feed with a HUGE delay, let CBS chop the shit out of it. The only way this could bring people to XM is if they felt like they were missing out on A LOT. A chopped up show will do this, not a watered down "safe" show.

I can only pray that this is the plan.

[dirt65]

Are ya? Are ya really? and then what?
There are 149 other channels to go to . 202 will just be passed by.

[sidisdead]

God I hope that's the plan.

Are O&A playing it like a couple of drug dealers? Get the people hooked on the free shit, then take it away and charge them out the ass? By take it away I mean do as you said. Go back to XM and give CBS a feed with a HUGE delay, let CBS chop the shit out of it. The only way this could bring people to XM is if they felt like they were missing out on A LOT. A chopped up show will do this, not a watered down "safe" show.

I can only pray that this is the plan.

I don't think so CBS doesn't want a bucnk of people tunng into the show on XM because that mean less for them. Less dollars for spots, less ratings, less money while still paying them that sme amount. This is just a shit deal for XM peeps. :icon_eek:

[Motor Head]

This whole thing sucks....as of now. I will keep the faith that we get back a full uncensored show. I really do hope I'm wrong about the show being hamstrung by FCC and terrestrial radio standards and practices.

The FCC was bad back when they were on air in 2002. Trust me, they are even worse now. The Christian conservative bullshit has effectively killed 99% of the edginess that many shows enjoyed in the 80's and 90's. I figure between the FCC, and the outrage of one of Jimmy's comments, or one of Anthony's "Scwoogie" rants, they will have every liberal organization wanting thier heads on a stick. Nothing scares FM radio like a large fine, or protests from the ACLU, NAACP, Jewish Anti-Defamation League, Rainbow Coalition, and one of the dozen gay/lesbien organizations. Don't forget the conservative organizations too.

They ranted against, and mocked free radio since day 1 on XM. Now, they are on free radio....total buzz kill.

[Joeycasz]

God I hope that's the plan.

Are O&A playing it like a couple of drug dealers? Get the people hooked on the free shit, then take it away and charge them out the ass? By take it away I mean do as you said. Go back to XM and give CBS a feed with a HUGE delay, let CBS chop the shit out of it. The only way this could bring people to XM is if they felt like they were missing out on A LOT. A chopped up show will do this, not a watered down "safe" show.

I can only pray that this is the plan.


Realistically for me i only got XM for O&A. I have to listen to the FM show on the way to work in the morning and because of the replay now, the same hour i listened to in the morning is what's on my drive home. I went from listening to 2+ hours of great radio to 40 minutes of sub par. I work like a lot of people and rely on the replay for my horrid commute home as i rely on the live broadcast for my horrid commute to work. I don't have the ability to listen to them while i'm at work, too fucking busy. Unless they change the replay i'll never get to hear the 9-11 show so i see no benefit to me personally.

[CoatHngrReject]

Motorhead- You know what's funny? I am a hardcore conservative on a political front, but wish the FCC was dead. I dont buy how my party (small govt) can be pro-fcc in the name of family values.

Family values arent workin now. I say we abolish the FCC. Fuck it.

S.

[biggie_heinz]

The majority of poeple seems to fit 2 categories, the people who seem to think that the boys can do nothing wrong, not matter what and that you are not a true fan if you voice any concerns. The second group is the poeple that gripe about everything. i try not to be so extreme one way or another.

I was skeptical going into yesterdays show (waiting for work to listen to todays show), but the skepticism washed away when i started listening.

To say that you are getting more show because it is a six hours of show instead of 4 hours may not necessarily be accurate. I figure with the added 1to 2 hours of show, we will probably get the same amount (or close to) of LIVE show to compensate for the increased frequency of commercials on the fm show. To me that is a wash. I record the show on the myfi so i can forward through them anyway.


sure there may be more LIVE show since i have not listened to the show with a timer at my side., but don't base your argument that the show went from 4 hours to up to 6 hours so you are getting more show. In that first three hours you are getting a lot more commercials than in the 4 hours of the old show. I also hope going into the last hour is the norm, rather than an exception.

with that said, I enjoyed the show yesterday, even with all of its technical difficulties.

[HowardsYamBag]

It's amazing to me that just a couple of days ago we were all on the same page, everything was tits. We all loved O&A and XM, and hated regular free radio and wanted to watch it die a slow painful death.

Why? Cause O&A said so. The reason why I'm so adament about this because O&A did such a great job convincing me over the last 19 months that this is how it should be.....XM = more gooder, Free Radio = garbage. It really didn't take much convincing as the difference between formats is night and day. Again, up until a couple of days ago, NO ONE would argue this. If I came on these boards 1 month ago and suggested O&A should return to free radio to gain more exposure, you know, edit themselves and play nice....I would have been laughed off these boards and you all know that's true.

Sorry but, just because they snap their fingers and say how great "free fm" is now, doesn't mean I have to buy into it. I have a little more self respect than that. All of a sudden it's OK to like "free radio" just because they are back on it? I don't think so.

My war shall continue.

Because maybe it is not about Free radio? Maybe it is about them? Maybe the show on FreeFM is good because it is O&A, and they will find a way to make it work?

Maybe, just maybe, those guys would be good no matter where you put them.

[HowardsYamBag]

Honestly, the boys have said it themselves..that they're really afraid of the pests. I feel a revolt coming on.

Without O&A, there are no pests... A revolt might hurt them, and they you guys would be stuck with HooHoo and Bob&Tom...

[Dugpa]

Motorhead- You know what's funny? I am a hardcore conservative on a political front, but wish the FCC was dead. I dont buy how my party (small govt) can be pro-fcc in the name of family values.

Family values arent workin now. I say we abolish the FCC. Fuck it.

S.

most conservatives these days aren't conservative in the original sense of the word. the same goes for liberals, actually.

[Joeycasz]

Because maybe it is not about Free radio? Maybe it is about them? Maybe the show on FreeFM is good because it is O&A, and they will find a way to make it work?

Maybe, just maybe, those guys would be good no matter where you put them.



You are so 15

[HowardsYamBag]

It's one fucking day, the audio is fucked up, and Anthony is sick as shit. They're going to do that intro stuff in different cities to be introduced to the fans. Some people are complaining about a watered down show, but what made me laugh like hell on xm (the cringe of the 'smashing glasses') could just as well have been done on cbs. I'm not in one of the select 7 cities, so I wouldn't make a switch anyways. Also, I listen to the replays to catch the show. I listen to the show at work, so the longer time of the show, even if there are more commercials, makes my work day better.

The commercials didn't bother me as much as I'd expected them to. I was expecting much, much worse. The fm show will come together more as time goes on. I don't think any different guests would mean too much to me, but I do enjoy hearing people call in that aren't the usual callers from this message board or anywhere else. That's part of the problem with Stern...he has the same asses calling all day with no real interaction. Much of what I found funny before, and think I'll enjoy now, is more good stuff from the fans and interaction with those who hate them.

I'm looking forward to the radio wars in some of these cities with pests becoming a pain in the ass to other shows. One more thing...they aren't leaving xm to take over middays in Des Moines....it's fucking morning drive in New York. As much as I'm a fan of xm, I'm more a fan of their show. I enjoy the short commercial breaks and the occasional cunt thrown into the show, but this is still there. I would have paid for the wnew show when they came back to xm, with commercials and censorship. I did love the 4 hour show and it's gone, but how much can you really take out of what they did today?

I enjoyed the cbs show, with audio difficulties aside, and look forward to hearing it again tomorrow. What's being done on xm is still worth the cost of the subscription to me (though I understand the points some of you make based on when you listen).

I'm not trying to defend them no matter what happens, but I enjoyed today's show and hearing the potential for where they'll be taking the show on both cbs and xm.

I think that the biggest complainers, do it for this reason:

The Forum people and pests were the only callers into the show. Everything was an inside joke, and everyone was involved like it was a little country club.

Now they have opened Bushwood up to the public, and the pests and club members are no longer part of this elite club, because now any asshole can join in.

It's like knowing a cool band and always sitting front row at a small venue and hanging out with them after the show... and then they hit it big and you have to go buy your tickets for Giants Stadium just like every other schmuck.

Yeah, it hurts your pride, because you are not a special insider any more. And on top of that, the the band has to do venues, interviews and maybe even make some songs that MTV wants.

O&A would only get so big on XM. Stern had a massive following and lost most of it going to Satellite. O&A never had an audience that big to begin with, and had a 2 year break. The only way they would ever really take over is to make use of FreeFM, because like it or not, that is where most listeners, and advertizing revenue, is.

So now, they are no longer the private little niche club that you enjoyed. But they are still O&A, and they have always found a way to do great radio. That's why we became fans in the first place.

[HowardsYamBag]

after reading through these post all i can say is.........

"HowardsYamBag needs to fall in a bucket of aids"!!!!...........

what a pompus, self-serving ass........

You are a fucking idiot. The onlyu self-serving people here are the jackoffs that do nothing but cry because they won't hear curse words for a couple hours.

Nothing that I have posted has been about me, so how is it self-serving?

Ass.

[HowardsYamBag]

You are so 15

And you are an ass. Stop blubbering and either enjoy the show or tune into Mancow, faggot.

[BullsLawDan]

Motorhead- You know what's funny? I am a hardcore conservative on a political front, but wish the FCC was dead. I dont buy how my party (small govt) can be pro-fcc in the name of family values.

Family values arent workin now. I say we abolish the FCC. Fuck it.

S.

Off topic - your party (Republicans) is NOT, no way no how, "small govt". What you are in fact is a libertarian. Neither major party is libertarian.

[BullsLawDan]

I think that the biggest complainers, do it for this reason:
... blahblahblah ...

If you read my earlier posts on the move, I was in support of it before I heard the details. Once I knew that CBS was going to "control" their portion and we'd get CBS-like commercial breaks, I lost it.

Again: I don't care about curse words. Only about 50% or less of any given show's content on XM would fail FCC approval anyway. What I care about is having 60% of my commute during morning drive be commercials. That is bullshit.

[deadking]

Still hoping for a HUGE change, but 2nd day was worst than the first. And if I hear Opie say "this will bring in way more content" again I'm going to puke. It will bring more content in allright, right to the CBS studios where it will be watered down and more of the same hacky radio interviews I can get on any other morning zoo shows and thats what the O&A show is becoming.

[Joeycasz]

And you are an ass. Stop blubbering and either enjoy the show or tune into Mancow, faggot.


You're on here bashing everyone for not joining "The Revolution" because you think you know better than everyone for some reason. Let all the adults talk and sit back, you may learn something.

[HowardsYamBag]

You're on here bashing everyone for not joining "The Revolution" because you think you know better than everyone for some reason. Let all the adults talk and sit back, you may learn something.

No, dick, I think that *they* know better than you.

When they were formerly on commercial radio, did the show rock or suck?

[hammer5703]

Stinks. Only have XM for O & A & Jimmy and can only listen from 6 to 9. The music channels stink, so why continue with XM if I can listen free to a watered down version?

[willis]

No, dick, I think that *they* know better than you.

When they were formerly on commercial radio, did the show rock or suck?


you are not comprehending the point.. please just save yourself the embarrassment and shut up..

we agree they ruled before on commercial radio, and will be a good show again on commercial.. but it won't be a BETTER show than it was on xm (commercials, flow, subject matter, freedom from fcc, whatever reason you want), and thus we are losing something, and have a valid complaint.

If you can't say anything besides "duh, it was a good show before boss.. duh".. shut the fuck up

[Blake Karringto]

And if I hear Opie say "this will bring in way more content" again I'm going to puke.

Yeah..though still not as bad as the groveling before Bill Donahue.

[HowardsYamBag]

Pussies. All of you.

You are not fit to call yourselves fans. Go listen to Bob&Tom and be done with it, faggots.

[CoatHngrReject]

Off topic - your party (Republicans) is NOT, no way no how, "small govt". What you are in fact is a libertarian. Neither major party is libertarian.

No, I am not a libertarian. I do not wish to discuss politics on a message board.

Other than that- I am so glad I have a myfi. I've been able to fastforward most of the drivel from this mornings FM show. Nothing like hearing Ant ask a mother how old her kids are. Yeah- they're the same boys alright. We didnt even get a yates joke.

It's like watching a pitbull after it's teeth got pulled.

S.

[Blake Karringto]

Pussies. All of you.

You are not fit to call yourselves fans. Go listen to Bob&Tom and be done with it, faggots.

And perhaps you should settle down at the Stern Fan Network where your thoughtless sycophancy will be more appreciated.

[sidisdead]

Pussies. All of you.

You are not fit to call yourselves fans. Go listen to Bob&Tom and be done with it, faggots.

If you would pull your head out of thier ass's long enough the breath maybe you could understand what people are trying to say. I guess if you don't like evething someone does your not a fan. It's easy to hide behind a computer shitdick.:hamm:

[us1087]

Pussies. All of you.

You are not fit to call yourselves fans. Go listen to Bob&Tom and be done with it, faggots.


And you are blind because your head is up the show's ass. Disagree if you want but don't take your ball and go home you pussy.

[Joeycasz]

No, dick, I think that *they* know better than you.

When they were formerly on commercial radio, did the show rock or suck?



Sure they were good, 4 years ago. Everyone is unison on that. The new FCC won't allow a show they did 4 years ago to be aired today so your point holds no water.

[deadking]

Compared to the XM show the OLD radio show did SUCK BALLS. Look we have been used to something for the past year and a half. Trying to say that the OLD radio was great in comparison to now is like apples and oranges. The new morining zoo show will NEVER be as good as the XM show. And the new XM show will NEVER be as good as it was, PERIOD.

[HowardsYamBag]

I still say that you are all fags. Just STFU and stop whining, nobody cares.

Time will prove that this was a good move. Every time they do something, there are those that say it is crazy, dumb or the wrong move. And then they succeed and prove everyone wrong. Have the boys ever failed in recent years? I mean, they go fired for going too far, but have they ever failed for being lame and not going far enough?

Nope.

In the end, they always succeed, and even when they get fired, they come back stronger.

I am saying that people always questions and doubt them, and end up being dead wrong. And it is especially annoying to see the socalled fans giving them shit over it.

Just because you have a keyboard, does not make you an expert. And neither am I, but they have not failed me yet, so I really have no reason to call them out yet.

[HowardsYamBag]

Go to a Stern site right now, and you will see that they are saying the same things. You fools are playing right into Hoohoo's hands, by creating dissention in the ranks and you are doing more damage to the show than CBS has.

Just relax and enjoy and let the boys do what they do best, and stop taking away from their success.

[Joeycasz]

I still say that you are all fags. Just STFU and stop whining, nobody cares.

Time will prove that this was a good move. Every time they do something, there are those that say it is crazy, dumb or the wrong move. And then they succeed and prove everyone wrong. Have the boys ever failed in recent years? I mean, they go fired for going too far, but have they ever failed for being lame and not going far enough?

Nope.

In the end, they always succeed, and even when they get fired, they come back stronger.

I am saying that people always questions and doubt them, and end up being dead wrong. And it is especially annoying to see the socalled fans giving them shit over it.

Just because you have a keyboard, does not make you an expert. And neither am I, but they have not failed me yet, so I really have no reason to call them out yet.


You are absolutley on the wrong post, the ass kissing room is where you want to be. You are so blind.

[deadking]

I said before and I'll say it again, I'M GOING TO WAIT 2 WEEKS. But so far 2 out of 2 shows have been HORRIBLE. I'm not digging the new "CBS MORNING ZOO". And you KNOW they are not answering all lthe calls coming in to bitch about how bad the show sucks, I did hear a couple of stealth comments on the show today like the guy that said, "tuesdays show was great", that was about the only funny thing I heard today. I have 5 subs and I think im getting rid of 3, sure I'll keep the one in the car and maybe one in the house but O&A was my buying point to have that many radios.
Whats worse is that all the people I have been turning on to XM for O&A now call or come to me and say "you see O&A are working for howard now" and I say "no they are at CBS", and they reply "I thought thats where howard worked" UGGGG

[willis]

Go to a Stern site right now, and you will see that they are saying the same things. You fools are playing right into Hoohoo's hands, by creating dissention in the ranks and you are doing more damage to the show than CBS has.

Just relax and enjoy and let the boys do what they do best, and stop taking away from their success.


seriously, are you just incapable of critical thought??

No-one is taking away from their successes, no-one is saying it won't be a "good" show. Go back to 9th grade, take a reading comprehension course and then try and form a coherent argument as to why the show we will be getting can ever be better than the xm show was...

[sidisdead]

SO they didn't fail when they got fired. I think geting fired is failing and buy the way, IF they got fired for pushing it to far in the past which is true. Did you ever think they are doing it again. Pushing it to far. All everyone worries about is Howard. Fuck Howard and what he says or think,and his fans suck. Were not helping Howard, the boys are much better then him and he knows it.

We don't always do things the right way, and all people are trying to say is that this wasn't the right way.

Get off the Howard shit! That's an excuse to try and get people to stop voicing how they feel and point out that maybe the Boys didn't do it right. Is this what Opie means by doing it the right way.

[HowardsYamBag]

You are helping Hoohoo.

Head over to a Stern forum, and it looks like many of you copied and pasted their posts here.

Shame on you.

Trust in the boys, they won't let us down.

[CoatHngrReject]

You are absolutley on the wrong post, the ass kissing room is where you want to be. You are so blind.

Yeah, I hear the ass kissing room is over at Full blown aids.

[MOTHRA]

Because maybe it is not about Free radio? Maybe it is about them? Maybe the show on FreeFM is good because it is O&A, and they will find a way to make it work?

Maybe, just maybe, those guys would be good no matter where you put them.

I agree with you....The show on "Free Fm" will be good because it is, after all, The Opie and Anthony show. O&A will ALWAYS (IMHO) kick ass no matter what format they broadcast from. They absolutely will find a way to make it work. Their show WILL BE GREAT...make no mistake, I believe this with every fiber of my being ( did that make sense? I'm about 8 Corona's into yard work).

But, I KNOW FOR A FACT that it (the CBS portion of the show) will not and can not, even come CLOSE to touching the stuff they have gotten away with since signing up with XM. That is a FACT and not my opinion. THEY CAN NOT DO EXACTLY WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN DOING. THEY NEED TO CHANGE THE SHOW TO FIT THE RULES THAT ARE IN PLACE. THERE WERE VERY LITTLE RULES ON XM. THERE ARE MANY RULES THAT THEY MUST NOW FOLLOW. I just want people to be fucking HONEST about this. It's cool to have a positive outlook on the whole deal but, not when you have to sacrifice honesty.

Again, I live on Long Island and REMEMBER those first shows they did together....that's how far back I go with O&A. Up until a couple of days ago, I believed them about the whole "Honest radio guys" thing.

Did I LOVE the WNEW show? Motherfucking yes....it kicked fucking booty. Ya know what though...back then, I always wished that I could be in studio to hear what they would be like UNCENSORED. As great as that show was, I knew it would only be better if they didn't have to "pull punches". THAT is what pisses me off.....I HAD that. We all did. We saw the light and then had "most" of it yanked the fuck away from us. For all the shit that the FCC gave O&A....for all the times they were FUCKING FIRED.....booted the fuck off the air. It was FINALLY their time to shine. To do almost anything they wanted to fucking do without the fear of being fired. We WERE all in it together and they gave half of it away..........for money.

wha?


Anyhoo hoo.....in short...

Love the guys...love the show....will support them....upset about them "giving in" to pull in a bigger audience....upset about the "about face" they pulled on EVERYTHING they said over the last 18 months.

Love,
Mothra

[Blake Karringto]

We WERE all in it together and they gave half of it away..........for money.


I agree with most of your post, except for this. I dont think it was about money. I think it was much more about their egos. That doesnt mean that theyre egomaniacs or anything, but they made a decision that was best for them and the shows brand rather than whats best for the actual show itself and the listeners. It makes them bigger. It gets them a new level of press. Its revenge for enemies. But its not a better show. Can one person honestly say that they prefer 3 hours of terrestrial radio to the full 4 hour XM show?

[MOTHRA]

I agree with most of your post, except for this. I dont think it was about money. I think it was much more about their egos. That doesnt mean that theyre egomaniacs or anything, but they made a decision that was best for them and the shows brand rather than whats best for the actual show itself and the listeners. It makes them bigger. It gets them a new level of press. Its revenge for enemies. But its not a better show. Can one person honestly say that they prefer 3 hours of terrestrial radio to the full 4 hour XM show?

Yes, you could be right.....as I mentioned....8 Corona's.

[Dickieboy]

2 CBS Shows ...2 Car Crashes ...it's that simple !

Opie keeps talking about better guests they will be getting but do you think Pat Cooper would have been 1/4 as funny on regular radio as he was on XM ...NO WAY !

[thegreatgazoo]

I have one last thing to post about this and then I'm finished and I'll just wait and see what happens, because those of us who don't like it are not going to change anything and those who do like it are not going to convince us.

The boys have a perfect right to do whatever they want with their show. They can blow it up, they can sell it to whoever they want. It's their show, noone can tell the what to do with it. Run it anyway they want. My problem is don't treat the fans like their stupid and lie to them. Don't tell me the show will never change and it will be done on their terms and then change everything and do it on CBS's terms because that's exactly what happened. Don't for 18 months tell me how much "free radio" sucks and say you cannot do your show on it and then one week later praise free radio as being the best.

Don't act like the fans are stupid and try to tell them they are getting six hours of show instead of four when three are censored with one being nothing but commercials and the last hour on xm being (so far) one half hour of worst of's.

I would have no problem with what they did if they just came out and said look we changed our mind and we think that this is good us even though it is going to affect the xm listeners. At that point, noone could complain because they are being honest. If you don't like it don't listen then. But the problem is all the spinning going on. it drives me crazy how some people just won't offer anything constructive instead just say fuck you, your not a fan or the famous F B F. I get it, you don't care what they do to you or what they tell you but you have to realize some of us don't like being bullshitted to.

That's it for me, except to say I am really surprised at all the personal attacks just because we disagree. I always thought that this is what the pest did. If they didn't agree with something they hounded and pestered someone or something til it was changed. Here however I guess the same rules do not apply when it's something they don't agree with.

Hope everyone can calm down and accept a difference of opinion. The one thing that I would hate to see is for HOo Hoo to get any sort of enjoyment out of knowing this move is causing trouble amongst us O andA fans. Let's agree to disagree.

[Three Testies]

God I hope that's the plan.

The only way this could bring people to XM is if they felt like they were missing out on A LOT. A chopped up show will do this, not a watered down "safe" show.

I can only pray that this is the plan.

I am hoping that is the way its going to go also. But no cussing doesn't have the same effect. There is a delay, let er rip. Lay the c bomb down. I just hope they find a good groove in the next couple weeks. It can't be easy just to make that transition. I will give them time before I just don't tune in until 9. Are all the XM portions going to noon? That wouldn't be that bad then, today's XM portion was great, catching the FM portion now on replay. Hopefully they finger the shit out so we are still getting a great show on both formats.

[Three Testies]

My problem is don't treat the fans like their stupid and lie to them. Don't tell me the show will never change and it will be done on their terms and then change everything and do it on CBS's terms because that's exactly what happened. Don't for 18 months tell me how much "free radio" sucks and say you cannot do your show on it and then one week later praise free radio as being the best.

Where did they state all the "terms" CBS put on them? I would like some proof. They are going to have restricions from the FCC no doubt, but where are CBS's "terms" you speak of? Free radio blows because of the commercials and hacky jocks. I feel sort of jipped but they need to find their flow and I'm going to give it a chance before I tune in only at 9. If you can't deal with the fact you get them from 9 to noon on XM, too bad, I don't see anyone losing sleep over your problem. They were HUGE on WNEW with the censoring, who says it can't happen again. We're just going to have to wait and see, all bitching is pointless. Its not going to change anything.

[thegreatgazoo]

Where did they state all the "terms" CBS put on them? I would like some proof. They are going to have restricions from the FCC no doubt, but where are CBS's "terms" you speak of? Free radio blows because of the commercials and hacky jocks. I feel sort of jipped but they need to find their flow and I'm going to give it a chance before I tune in only at 9. If you can't deal with the fact you get them from 9 to noon on XM, too bad, I don't see anyone losing sleep over your problem. They were HUGE on WNEW with the censoring, who says it can't happen again. We're just going to have to wait and see, all bitching is pointless. Its not going to change anything.


You know something, your right, I don't know all the terms and maybe I worded it wrong. What I meant is that they had to tone down the show to meet certain standards whether they were CBS's or the FCC. The bottom line it wasn't on their terms and they already admitted that because they were forced not to broadcast on xm during commercial breaks. If it was on their terms, the show would have went on unchanged on xm and CBS would of had to deal with how they wanted to censor it.

[Harvey_Birdman]

The commercials alone make the CBS show worse. One doesn't even need to discuss content.

[HowardsYamBag]

Again, I think that early on, the deck is stacked against them because CBS knows their track record and is being extra cautious.

Just as XM was when they first came on board. For the first several months, O&A were forced to do a show from inside a bunker platform, to a very small gr
oup of die-hard fans. But they sucked it up, played by the rules, and were released to the general platform and picked up more listeners.

Now they have this shot to tap into literally millions of new listeners. But CBS is gonna keep a tight rein on them in the beginning, and they will once again have to play by the rules, and then they can take the next step.

It's not ass-kissing folks, it is common sense, based on what they have said and what they have done in the past. Many of you are looking at today, or tomorrow. You have to look further than that, and I think that they are. They are doing what they have to do now, even if it means extra commercials and toning down the curse words for part of the show, so that in the end they get where they want to be.

I think that if they build up a huge FreeFM base, when the contract between CBS and XM comes up for renewal, they will have the leverage to have things their way. They did not have that leverage this time around!

But if they have 7 million listeners and shotloads of ratings and ad revenue, and they put up a new contract that says that they do their show from their XM studio, and that CBS gets a live and delayed feed and can bleep the FreeFM content as FCC regulations dictate, I think that CBS will almost have to concede, or they can not renew and watch those multi-million dollar advertizers go away when the ratings tank with no O&A.

Given their track-record of trying to look a year or so down the road, is this really so hard to believe?

Right now, they have no clout with CBS. In time, they will, and they wil get what they want.

But you can't just walk in the door to the company that fired you and forced you to stay off the air for 2+ years and make demands. You have to have the ratings and the ad $$$ backing you or you are just pissing into the wind.

Mark

My

Words

[Maldron]

I could give two shits if anyone thinks being angry at having commercials is helping hoo hoo. Fuck him, fuck everyone. He could give two shits about us and apparently so can O&A ultimately you like to feel they are buddies and normal guys but in the end they just care about success. They need to be frienldy to us to get that success and at other times they don't. This was one where they didnt' and showed their colors. I don't fool myself into thinking they are my friends or would help me to change a flat tire on the side of the road, so everyone get a grip. they did what anyone would probably do in that situation with that much cash on the line. It is fucked up to use XM listeners to get back to FM then fill commercials with best of bits that don't even run seemlessly into the rejoiners.

The only hting that they could have done to prove they were for the "hardcore" fans that followed them to XM like myself was to keep teh XM feed normal, delay the drive time start by an hour on CBS and have CBS cut and edit and bleep whatever they needed from the prior hours XM feed to make it FCC friendly. Anything else is taking away from XM listeners right to no commercials. The same shit that O&A ripped freeFM for months ago is now suddenly "OK" if a check comes with it.

WAKE UP! Neither of these shows gives a shit about any of us. I started listening to O&A only because they made me laugh and Stern got boring. If O&A get boring i'll go elsewhere. I hope they don't but its obvious they just wanna "phone it in" like they always ripped others for.

I'm leaving to go dress up like Tom Lickass and go hit myself in the head with a Yule log as I stare longingly at my XM and think of what it once was....

[mainemoron]

I would have no problem with what they did if they just came out and said look we changed our mind and we think that this is good us even though it is going to affect the xm listeners. At that point, noone could complain because they are being honest. If you don't like it don't listen then. But the problem is all the spinning going on. it

i agree totally with this...i believe they meant everything they said in the past. they didn't think they had a snowball's chance in hell of going back...and then all of a sudden, it's "an offer they can't refuse"...because no matter what XM paid them - the Howard multigazillion dollar contract had to drive them fucking crazy...it's only human....now is there chance to make up alot of the difference, and make alot more money..good for them. they DO deserve it...just keep it real...everyone but the lemmings (howard'syambag) will buy into that...and come along for the ride and then decide if we want to pay the toll.

i love the boys...I'm just sorry i don't have the old show...because we all know it's ALL ABOUT ME...and that's the way it should be - for them too.

[HowardsYamBag]

Until they prove that they are washed up and cannot figure out how to make things work, I will give them the benefit of the doubt on this.

And if that makes me a lemming, so be it.

[MOTHRA]

Until they prove that they are washed up and cannot figure out how to make things work, I will give them the benefit of the doubt on this.

And if that makes me a lemming, so be it.

I don't understand why everyone is so upset. It's a beautiful day outside and Opie and Anthony are great.

[NightStalker3]

I am fucked, I already took my grape juice a long time ago. I have faith once its smooth on both fronts the bboys will prove they are kings of radio.

[HowardsYamBag]

I don't understand why everyone is so upset. It's a beautiful day outside and Opie and Anthony are great.

Precisely. I went and rode a nice wheelie down Main St to celebrate, although it is a bit cool today at only 72 degrees, but the sky is blue, the trees and flowers are all in full bloom, and summer is here.

Life, like O&A, is more gooder.

[MOTHRA]

Precisely. I went and rode a nice wheelie down Main St to celebrate, although it is a bit cool today at only 72 degrees, but the sky is blue, the trees and flowers are all in full bloom, and summer is here.

Life, like O&A, is more gooder.


Yes.

Isn't life grand

[patty's wig]

Howardsyambag is an idiot. I doesn't make any sense to defend this move to CBS from an XM fan's point of view.
Do I understand why O@A did it? With the move they get much deserved recognition, they get to broadcast to a larger audience, and they get much more money. No brainer.
This stuff about it benefiting the XM show is bullshit. What we get is three hours of an O@A FM constrained show and two less hours of the XM show. It is better than Don and Mike and others but not better than the O@A XM show. There is no way of debating this. I'm not even talking about the commercials yet.
Even worse than the commercials are the stupid fm callers. They are big fans who act as though the last 18 months didn't exist.
For an XM listener to act as though this is better for them doesn't make any sense at all.
If I may recap, howardsyambag is an idiot.

[Niwot's Curse]

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wha, what did day two end?:icon_roll

[HowardsYamBag]

Howardsyambag is an idiot. I doesn't make any sense to defend this move to CBS from an XM fan's point of view.
Do I understand why O@A did it? With the move they get much deserved recognition, they get to broadcast to a larger audience, and they get much more money. No brainer.
This stuff about it benefiting the XM show is bullshit. What we get is three hours of an O@A FM constrained show and two less hours of the XM show. It is better than Don and Mike and others but not better than the O@A XM show. There is no way of debating this. I'm not even talking about the commercials yet.
Even worse than the commercials are the stupid fm callers. They are big fans who act as though the last 18 months didn't exist.
For an XM listener to act as though this is better for them doesn't make any sense at all.
If I may recap, howardsyambag is an idiot.

You say it is bad for XM because you are not smart enough to see past your own little world. I am not saying that XM is better *today* as a result of this move.

I am saying that in the end, be it a few months or a year, in the end we will have a better product.

Think about it... You get the ratings on FreeFM up to the point that you can renegotiate the next contract to say that they do their entire show from XM, and let FreeFM delay it by an hour to allow for dumps and commercials.

O&A get their full time XM gig back, pick up shitloads of listeners, and make more money from the FreeFM ad revenue roilling in.

I truly believe that that is the end goal, but you short-sighted pricks want to just sit here whining because the show changed a bit.

It's not the final destination, be patient.

[DoughBoy]

Hey look. more people to ban for not following the rules and bashing eachother.

If you can't argue like adults, I'll remove your ability to converse with eachother

[mendozathejew]

the show gave fans too much power. for the past months, while all you now say you loved the XM show, you complained like a nagging wife about every minute detail of the show that you didnt like for 15 seconds at a clip.

any of you who give up on the show, finego away. but you'll be back when the boys start making news again, when the show starts doing bigger things, and when the XM portion of the show goes further than it ever could have before.

[kralk]

I can say that O&A did an excellent show on both FM and XM so the two have nothing to do with each other. The FM version was kinda cool since I loved the work arounds that they had to do. Like the word MULE for Cock. That is funny.

Can you even do this anymore? I thought you weren't allowed to use terms like balloon knot or mule juice anymore.

Anybody know the answer? I have nothing to back it up except a vague memory of the BBBoys mentioning this in the good old pre-xm/fm morning zoo days.

[CoatHngrReject]

the show gave fans too much power. for the past months, while all you now say you loved the XM show, you complained like a nagging wife about every minute detail of the show that you didnt like for 15 seconds at a clip.

any of you who give up on the show, finego away. but you'll be back when the boys start making news again, when the show starts doing bigger things, and when the XM portion of the show goes further than it ever could have before.


Complaints were far and FEW between re: the XM shows. I saw far more compliments than negative posts.

They had the XM show so perfect.

CHR

[Charliefox]

This a little off topic, but isn't the term "Free FM" sort of redundant? It sort of implies that somewhere, out there, people are paying for FM. I don't know...just a thought. This has probably been brought up before. If that's the case, then I truly bring nothing to the table.

[STARTSOMETHING]

So why do i have to put up with the censors and the constant breaks when im paying $12.95 a month the freefm listeners are gettting the break they pay what nothing? i guess the xm listeners just have to put up with all of this i feel like the fm listeners are the new baby and we have to put up with all the flaws of it man i liked it when the xm listeners where the only child

[mendozathejew]

you damn well know people constantly complained for the past 18 months, past 4 months etc. not to say we all didnt enjoy the show, but u know the bitching was constant. angry typing guy made an appearance every segment along the way.

all they do is make successful radio shows. they havent failed us yet.

can you give me one good reason that they cant make the fm show, the xm show the best of both worlds. can you specifically explain why they wont do that?

[Niwot's Curse]

the 3 min audio from the walk btwn. studios was far more entertaining than the entire freefm show....but then again, so are my shits.

[mascan42]

Today's FM show was markedly improved over yesterday's. Once they get past the awkwardness of working on FM again, I feel certain that the CBS show will be equal or better than the old WNEW show. But the XM portion will still blow it away.

[Sajix]

did anyone else notice that at 7:26 a caller was dumped on CBS and the XM feed. I was listening on my myfi and and heard the well known dump puase adn then Anthony saying a caller was the first to get dumped. I did not hear what the caller said.

I thought Xm was getting the original feed and sending it to CBS and not the other way around.

[STARTSOMETHING]

did anyone else notice that at 7:26 a caller was dumped on CBS and the XM feed. I was listening on my myfi and and heard the well known dump puase adn then Anthony saying a caller was the first to get dumped. I did not hear what the caller said.

I thought Xm was getting the original feed and sending it to CBS and not the other way around.

I was listening to the replay on my myfi and the guy said fucking

[us1087]

You say it is bad for XM because you are not smart enough to see past your own little world. I am not saying that XM is better *today* as a result of this move.

I am saying that in the end, be it a few months or a year, in the end we will have a better product.

Think about it... You get the ratings on FreeFM up to the point that you can renegotiate the next contract to say that they do their entire show from XM, and let FreeFM delay it by an hour to allow for dumps and commercials.

O&A get their full time XM gig back, pick up shitloads of listeners, and make more money from the FreeFM ad revenue roilling in.

I truly believe that that is the end goal, but you short-sighted pricks want to just sit here whining because the show changed a bit.

It's not the final destination, be patient.


For someone who said "STFU and nobody cares" about 10 posts ago......you certainly seem to care. How about you just let it go and admit the rest of us are right. The CBS show sucks right now and those of us who have XM are getting screwed. With the news that came out today, it doesnt seem like XM is in a position to lose one sub unless they dump a big contract......wait a minute, they already did. THIS DEAL STINKS. Pat Cooper on CBS would have sucked ass.

[Blake Karringto]

when the XM portion of the show goes further than it ever could have before.

Explain this one. How will it go further than it could have before?

[bundle of joy]

I thought there went supposed to be persona attacks on members.

[dirt65]

can you give me one good reason that they cant make the fm show, the xm show the best of both worlds. can you specifically explain why they wont do that?

Commercials, and by the way how long must we put up with the I'm a great/hardcore/your best fan but didn't see fit to buy XM sh#t?

[mendozathejew]

Explain this one. How will it go further than it could have before?

they explained how they couldnt keep certain bits going. american mess, all the contests like 50 gallon drum challenge, and any future bits they will come up with.

they Built a great base at XM, but it was hardcore male fans from the northeast, and people spread out all over the country far from nyc.

they didnt have enough fans to do wild shit that they did at wnew. XM gives them the chance to do those bits, but they couldnt pull it off with a smaller base. FM will build their base back up. they'll be huge names in NYC again, as well as the other major cities.
Now they'll be able to pull the 50 gallon drum challenge, and any other sick bits they invent, and they'll do it mostly on XM.
now maybe you dont believe thats gona be the story. but its a whole lot more logical than the idea that they'll do watered down radio for the next 3 years.

Commercials, and by the way how long must we put up with the I'm a great/hardcore/your best fan but didn't see fit to buy XM sh#t?

its just a fact that alot of people only care when its right there in their face. they are too stupid, lazy, and have too short memories to expect the majority to follow anyone from FM to satellite. anyone. now they can win those fans over again. its annoying, it annoys me no doubt, but it was what it is like our favorite fat colored guy says. in a few months it will pass and the fans are all fans again

[Blake Karringto]

[QUOTE=mendozathejew] but its a whole lot more logical than the idea that they'll do watered down radio for the next 3 years.

B..But they will do watered-down radio?

When you go from a place granting complete creative freedom and little commercial time to one in which youre censored and must play long commercial breaks, your show is inherently watered-down. Not a hard concept to grasp.

[whiskeydick]

Todays show was better, guests are going to get better. OnA are getting bigger, just as they deserve to. The show will get better with time. I didnt buy my xm for OnA in the first place. Just be happy for the bboys success.

[mendozathejew]

[QUOTE=mendozathejew] but its a whole lot more logical than the idea that they'll do watered down radio for the next 3 years.

B..But they will do watered-down radio?

When you go from a place granting complete creative freedom and little commercial time to one in which youre censored and must play long commercial breaks, your show is inherently watered-down. Not a hard concept to grasp.
you asked me how a cleaner(watered down) version on Fm will make XM better. I gave my opinion why the XM show will be better than it would otherwise. not a hard train of thought to follow

[HowardsYamBag]

[QUOTE=mendozathejew] but its a whole lot more logical than the idea that they'll do watered down radio for the next 3 years.

B..But they will do watered-down radio?

When you go from a place granting complete creative freedom and little commercial time to one in which youre censored and must play long commercial breaks, your show is inherently watered-down. Not a hard concept to grasp.

And is it hard to understand that with only XM, they had less than a million listeners and they saw this as an opportunity to move the needle in a big way?

XM only has 6 million subs, and I would bet money that not 1 in 6 are listeners.

That's a tiny fan base.

In the long run, I feel that this will be a good move.

[OKKAYTerrific]

I hear the free FM show on the way to and from work. I need to figure a way to change my hours! It's not the cursing I miss, it is the content. You really can't do anything on FM anymore. I don't think they know what they got themselves into but I hope they can figure a way to still make the show edgy like the WNEW days. Will have to give them time and see what happens. I think they will slip up eventually and be back on only XM with a few more million listeners anyway.

[ern]

[QUOTE=Blake Karringto]

And is it hard to understand that with only XM, they had less than a million listeners and they saw this as an opportunity to move the needle in a big way?

XM only has 6 million subs, and I would bet money that not 1 in 6 are listeners.

That's a tiny fan base.

In the long run, I feel that this will be a good move.

Hey howards yambag, after reading yesterday's posts I got the feeling you were either in a foul mood or a complete ass. After reading your posts today, I can't necessarily say I agree with your points, but I can say a appreciate your opinion more. And just so everyone knows, this is NOT meant to be some type of backhanded comment. BTW, what does it say at the bottom of your pic, I can't make out the part after brought to you by: I can read the rest of it about masculine overkill. TIA if you post the wording for me.

[HowardsYamBag]

"MORON's? - Masculine Overkill Rules, Ok Nancyboy?"

[HowardsYamBag]

I am neither. I just see that staying on XM posed it's own problems. The show would have a hard time growing. Only a few hundred thousand listeners is not much at all for a "national" show.

So this move opens up opportunities. It may put certain restrictions on them, temporarily, but in the end I think that they are onto something here. Knowing how they are driven to succeed, I cannot help but think that they have some sort of plan in mind here.

We can argue all we want, but the fact of the matter is that none of us knows the details of the contract. None of us have talked to E-Lo privately about the next move. None of us have gotten the inside scoop of where they think they want to be a year or two from now.

I trust them, until they give me a reason not to.

If they end up actually being liars and sellouts and shit on us all, then I will throw out XM and get Sirius and pick up Stern. I don't hate Howie, I just feel that he is inferior to O&A. but if they bomb, then he would have the better show at that point.

But I just don't see that happening.

[ern]

TeeHee, like this one?

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/1149/meritbadgeforloyalty5dj.jpg

You have got to be the funniest poster here. Love it. I am serious, your killing me with this stuff. Keep it coming, and do me a favor, pm me so I don't have to search every thread to find this stuff.

BTW, did they sound better today on XM while they doing the free fm stuff? They still sounded a little echoy (if that is a word), but not as bad as yesterday.

[ern]

I am neither. I just see that staying on XM posed it's own problems. The show would have a hard time growing. Only a few hundred thousand listeners is not much at all for a "national" show.

So this move opens up opportunities.
But I just don't see that happening.

Ahhhh common ground at last. I agree with those sentiments, however, I think many posters here are not giving credit to the fact that they had exposure to several countries with XM. I just think they needed to expand that part of XM a bit for themselves. Not trying to argue, but there were opportunities that weren't necessarily realized quite yet on XM. I will acknowledge that it would have been a very long and hard road to go.

[mendozathejew]

if they hadnt signed off for this, Id be taking the opposite position, saying they missed THE opportunity to make this satellite thing blow up for real. I only stick up for them because

1. they have never disappointed me before, they always make it work. 2. I honestly believe this move will make the XM portion better. we give up an hour and change to commercials, while we will soon get more debauchery than ever on two hours of satellite

[HowardsYamBag]

They are on in two countries, and between them, they had less than a million listeners.

That's a tiny audience. Stern had larger audiences than that in individual cities over the years.

SO both platforms have limitations.

XM they can say whatever they want, to an extremely limited number of listeners.

FM, they can say less, but to 10x as many listeners.

RIght now, they are playing both sides of the fence. Both sides get some of what they want, and in the end I expect to see a shift as I outlined before, that once they prove they can get the ratings and revenue, they will have more influence on where things go.

Ultimately, I would love to see them do the entire show from XM, with a full hour delay on CBS. That would give them plenty of time to add commercials and hit the dump if needed, but we would get the show that we want and pay for, and the FM crowd would get O&A but with the required commercials and FCC limitations.

Everyone wins.

I honestly believe that that is the plan, and this move to CBS was the first step to put that together.

[ern]

Howard'sYambag
I do not believe that your thoughts are not that much different than mine, maybe I am just a little more cynical.

Like many other posters have stated previously, my gripes are the issues of:
1) bashing free fm, then going and doing free fm
2) buying the unit, paying for the subscription, getting hooked on the uncut, uncensored, almost commercial free, free flowing continuous broadcast, then getting something else

Then after posting here my primary issue became this -
Don't tell me to flush my xm because I don't agree with your viewpoint, I don't view it as an "all or nothing issue".

Anyway, thanks for putting a little more into your posts. At least I know where you are coming from.

[Maldron]

would love to see them do the entire show from XM, with a full hour delay on CBS. That would give them plenty of time to add commercials and hit the dump if needed,

Howardsyambag that is finally something you say that i like. It would singlehandedly make the entire mess workable and everyoen is happy. So the question remains, why not just start that way? Because now FM thinks they have hand, and XM gets sloppy seconds. It's gonna be hard to ever turn this around now.

[HowardsYamBag]

Because CBS had to eat a lot of crow to get O&A back on after what they did to them over St Pat's. But at the same time, they feel that they are going way out on a limb by putting the boys on the air.

Right now, things are very touch and go. Give it time. Let the ratings go up, let the cash start rolling in, and then you will see them get away with more and more. Soon there will be 50 gallons drums, drinking, Jay Moore ass-fucking black hookers in the other room, etc...

Maybe not all that, but when they are bringing ratings and millions of real dollars to the table, they will have more say in what happens.

One step at a time.

[Tree Crackhead]

Ultimately, I would love to see them do the entire show from XM, with a full hour delay on CBS. That would give them plenty of time to add commercials and hit the dump if needed, but we would get the show that we want and pay for, and the FM crowd would get O&A but with the required commercials and FCC limitations.



99.9% of the complaints would disappear if this was how the shows were simulcast. But as another poster said, FM has all the hands and XM is getting sloppy seconds. I still don't understand how XM got so ***** in this deal. I havne't listened to most of the CBS show today, but is it true that a fan was mentioning XM in a call and Anthony had to cut him off b/c CBS didn't want XM promoted on the show? (I heard this from a friend who just listened to O&A for the first time today on Free FM, so I don't know if this is true).

[HowardsYamBag]

It won't happen overnight.

Sometimes you just have to sit back, wait, and see what happens.

Peace out ma niggas.

[Lacrossedragon]

99.9% of the complaints would disappear if this was how the shows were simulcast. But as another poster said, FM has all the hands and XM is getting sloppy seconds. I still don't understand how XM got so ***** in this deal. I havne't listened to most of the CBS show today, but is it true that a fan was mentioning XM in a call and Anthony had to cut him off b/c CBS didn't want XM promoted on the show? (I heard this from a friend who just listened to O&A for the first time today on Free FM, so I don't know if this is true).


Sorta kinda... XM can be mentioned but Ant doesn't want to anger his CBS bosses. The truth is, O&A really don't give a flying fuck about XM and only dissed FM because they weren't on it (and they said this...). XM doesn't care about it because they prob. got a sweet bit of money from all of this.

[BlowmeStern69]

what i dont understand is how they even have cbs bosses. they signed a contract with xm and if this had been the other way around cbs would just be simulcasting O&A to xm while keeping it all cbs. XM had all the cards because cbs needed a proven ratings getter and O&A were it. cbs was dieing and xm should have told them what they wanted and how it was going to be. because they are O&A and had been of radio for 2 years when they signed on with xm and because this is only their second contarct i dont see how O&A could of had much freedom in that contract. saying this it doesnt make sense that cbs is calling all these shots. xm lost 2 hours of exclusive O&A and gave cbs their best show. unless cbs is paying a hell of a lot of money it doesnt make sense.

the only way i can see this making sense is if O&A pull one of the greatest moves in radio history to fuck with cbs which i can see coming because lets be honest the shows on cbs have sucked today and yesterday and the xm show has been much better. from a business stand point this move makes no sense for xm unless the have O&A on cbs radio long enough to get huge ratings and then pull them back to only xm which in theory would drive people to purchase xm.

i guess what im trying to say is that from the xm end this makes no sense to me. people are not going to buy xm just to hear more of O&A when the hours they would listen to them ie on their way to work they already get. xm fucked themselves is all i can say. so i hope the boys get fed up with the cbs bullshit in a couple months give us a great bit get fired and go back to XM.

[Motor Head]

I'm will to stick it out for awhile. I'm not ready to just throw in the towel, and call it quits on the b-b-boys.

Besides what are my alternatives? Hoo Hoo? Mancow? or god help us...Bob & Tom. Or how about the local wacky local morning show?

Please, just let it get better, and give me back my 4 hours of uncensored radio gold.

[supertool]

Pussies. All of you.

You are not fit to call yourselves fans. Go listen to Bob&Tom and be done with it, faggots.


We can't all be tough guys. If we could we'd all have a picture of a guy beating up a girl in our sig pic.

[HowardsYamBag]

We can't all be tough guys. If we could we'd all have a picture of a guy beating up a girl in our sig pic.

The guy is not beating her up, he is simply telling her that she overcooked his supper.

[Joeycasz]

I really don't think they'll get many new XM subscribers because of the CBS deal. Why would anyone that now gets it for free pay money for XM? They didn't before, why would they now? Most people with real jobs can't listen to the 9-11 replay and have much better things to do after work(Especially in the summer time) than to listen to O&A from 6-8pm.

XM has nearly 7 million subs, when O&A joined XM i think there was only about 3 million. Nearly 4 million in a year and a half, that's pretty fucking good and it was only getting better. This in my eyes means XM was not worrying about subs going up as that was just fine and was going to happen anyway. Probably 8 million by 2007. I can understand that they don't want to broadcast to the same few hundred thousand people, but like the CBS deal XM was going to take time. Instead of being patient like they are now asking us to do they jumped head first in this deal that in my eyes could have been done better.

No one really has a problem with the CBS deal other than the fact that the commercials and the breaks are now surgical and kill any flow they create. The XM show is comprimised because of it. This will get better i'm sure, but we have to wait for it on our dime. CBS was going down in flames, how did they get the upper hand? How are they not getting an XM feed with a larger delay? Even if they had to hold back just a "little" so they wouldn't have to dump as much is better than what we're getting now. Yes i'm new to wackbag but have been listening for years, it doesn't mean my opinions are any less valid than someone who's posted a few hundred times.

One thing that absolutley needs to happen is that the replay needs to be fixed. It's one thing to listen to "Free FM" on the way to work but it's another thing to have to listen to the same hour on the way home from work, that i can't do.

[HowardsYamBag]

I really don't think they'll get many new XM subscribers because of the CBS deal. Why would anyone that now gets it for free pay money for XM? They didn't before, why would they now? Most people with real jobs can't listen to the 9-11 replay and have much better things to do after work(Especially in the summer time) than to listen to O&A from 6-8pm.

XM has nearly 7 million subs, when O&A joined XM i think there was only about 3 million. Nearly 4 million in a year and a half, that's pretty fucking good and it was only getting better. This in my eyes means XM was not worrying about subs going up as that was just fine and was going to happen anyway. Probably 8 million by 2007. I can understand that they don't want to broadcast to the same few hundred thousand people, but like the CBS deal XM was going to take time. Instead of being patient like they are now asking us to do they jumped head first in this deal that in my eyes could have been done better.

No one really has a problem with the CBS deal other than the fact that the commercials and the breaks are now surgical and kill any flow they create. The XM show is comprimised because of it. This will get better i'm sure, but we have to wait for it on our dime. CBS was going down in flames, how did they get the upper hand? How are they not getting an XM feed with a larger delay? Even if they had to hold back just a "little" so they wouldn't have to dump as much is better than what we're getting now. Yes i'm new to wackbag but have been listening for years, it doesn't mean my opinions are any less valid than someone who's posted a few hundred times.

One thing that absolutley needs to happen is that the replay needs to be fixed. It's one thing to listen to "Free FM" on the way to work but it's another thing to have to listen to the same hour on the way home from work, that i can't do.

Because what you get on FreeFM is not the same as what you get on XM.

How hard is this to comprehend???

Jeebus, some of you guys are thick. The show gets popular again, but now everyone knows that you can get uncensored show, and MORE hours of show for a couple bucks a month, plus replay capability, etc...

[Joeycasz]

Because what you get on FreeFM is not the same as what you get on XM.

How hard is this to comprehend???

Jeebus, some of you guys are thick. The show gets popular again, but now everyone knows that you can get uncensored show, and MORE hours of show for a couple bucks a month, plus replay capability, etc...


How did i know that you'd be the first to respond, i must be psychic.

[pgoins]

I just read through this post and now need to throwup. How effing stupid are some of you. Does wackbag have to start issuing IQ test with your registrations.

If you have XM already and pay for the sub. YOU NOW GET 5+ HOURS OF UNCUT O&A.

If you do not have XM and listen to them on Free FM then...IF YOU LIKE WHAT YOU HEAR YOU WILL MOST LIKELY WANT TO HEAR MORE. WELL THEN YOU GO OUT AND GET XM TO HEAR WHAT YOU ARE MISSING.

Not a difficult concept to understand there. Now go back to the gene pool and drop off the Xtra chromosomes you picked up.

[Joeycasz]

I just read through this post and now need to throwup. How effing stupid are some of you. Does wackbag have to start issuing IQ test with your registrations.

If you have XM already and pay for the sub. YOU NOW GET 5+ HOURS OF UNCUT O&A.

If you do not have XM and listen to them on Free FM then...IF YOU LIKE WHAT YOU HEAR YOU WILL MOST LIKELY WANT TO HEAR MORE. WELL THEN YOU GO OUT AND GET XM TO HEAR WHAT YOU ARE MISSING.

Not a difficult concept to understand there. Now go back to the gene pool and drop off the Xtra chromosomes you picked up.

How am i getting 5+ hours of "Uncut" content? If you factor in commercials and old best of's it's coming to be about 3 and a half to 4 hours of TOTAL time. We've been through this already on so many posts. Insults are not needed, especially when you obviously are acting like a robot. I was just speaking my mind. The truth is none of us know ANYTHING on what their deal was, is, is going to be. So i'm tired of hearing about how great it's going to be eventually. I'm just sitting back and waiting to see what happens. I can at least do that. I'm an adult, if i don't like what happens or the end result sucks it's not life changing to me despite my disappointment.

We'll see what happens...

[pgoins]

First off Joey. I didn't call anyone directly by name Stupid. But since you came to the table. You know they come on at 6 am now right. Commercial breaks on xm between 6-9 have been hysterical. So as of now it's up to you count that as actual time. They broadcast from the street as they walk over to XM. I hope they keep doing that. It's great.

They aren't dumping any of the show on the XM play. AGGGHH. Forget it. Just keep walking around without bending your knees, your arms straight out, and moaning. GRRRRRRRR

I love the better show. It's great!!!

[Joeycasz]

First off Joey. I didn't call anyone directly by name Stupid. But since you came to the table. You know they come on at 6 am now right. Commercial breaks on xm between 6-9 have been hysterical. So as of now it's up to you count that as actual time. They broadcast from the street as they walk over to XM. I hope they keep doing that. It's great.

They aren't dumping any of the show on the XM play. AGGGHH. Forget it. Just keep walking around without bending your knees, your arms straight out, and moaning. GRRRRRRRR

I love the better show. It's great!!!

What ever dude. They're not completely happy with what they're doing on CBS yet. Like i said, we'll see what happens...

[Joeycasz]

I'm pretty much done with this and quite honestly have much better things to do.

Again, will wait and see.

[pgoins]

Agreed. I'm goin fishing.

[Maldron]

Yes i'm new to wackbag but have been listening for years, it doesn't mean my opinions are any less valid than someone who's posted a few hundred times.

One thing that absolutley needs to happen is that the replay needs to be fixed. It's one thing to listen to "Free FM" on the way to work but it's another thing to have to listen to the same hour on the way home from work, that i can't do.

I agree totally on both accounts. Just because i don't farm message boards all night long don't mean i have any less of an opinion or am less of a fan. I've listened since month 2 of wnew, showed up to sticker stops etc. The majority of fans are in the middle on most things until something irks them greatly, like this ass fuck we are currently undergoing.

And fixing the replay would make me much happeir if they were CBS free replays, just the solid stuff from XM. commercial filler is hard enough the first time, I keep feeling like someone took my Tivo ***** me with it and forced me to watch regular TV again as i listen.

[Harvey_Birdman]

commercial filler is hard enough the first time, I keep feeling like someone took my Tivo ***** me with it and forced me to watch regular TV again as i listen.

Hello, exactly! It's just like Ant has been talking about the DVR's, they're too good to be true.

Maybe that's the real lesson of the XM to CBS shift, the XM show was too good to be true, and we were all spoiled by short -EDIT- and infrequent -END EDIT- commercial breaks and uncensored radio.

I'm sure O&A will do fine in their new position, and that they'll get a whole shitload of listeners and be #1 in their spot. But this move opens them up to somebody else out there who's willing to build up a new audience on uncensored radio that will be better than theirs. No, it's not that old woman Hoo-hoo, but it could be one of those jackasses from college radio who auditioned for a golden ticket.

[Krinkle]

They way I look at it. I'm getting 5+ hrs a day now instead of just 4 hrs.

I'm only upset that I never heard of them before XM.

I did pay for the premium time, and now I'm getting the benefit of doing so.

Give them time.

[PILOTMAN]

to make this work for their fans they need to go to Joel Hollander and say the following:

Joel,
Fuck the two studio bullshit. We are going to XM and we are going to do our show from 6-11. You can air as much as you want, and be happy because even if you end up dumping out of our show so much the listeners think we are stutterers with amnesia, we will still nuke DLR's .000001 rating. We will take breaks when we want to, which is never unless Jimmy has to shit. Every time CBS has to break for commercials, we will air a 5 second bump that says "to be continued on XM for all the listeners that gave a shit and paid our bills for 18 months while commercial radio avoided us like the plague".

Until they do that, continue bitching.

Just a thought: We need a code word for when XM listeners call in, something that is insulting to the "Free" listeners but they won't know it.


I like you idea.

[Charliefox]

I don't know about the rest of you all, but I feel a little "short changed" (To use an antiquited term.) As I said, "give it time", but so far, during the CBS broadcast, I just swtich over to XM 150, Comedy, (Or, Ethel, Lucy, Fred, etc.) and then just swtich back when O&A come back to XM. Maybe I just want to hear the potty mouth.

[supertool]

The guy is not beating her up, he is simply telling her that she overcooked his supper.


Well, in that case, I do apologize sir.

[Badgun]

I agree with most of your post, except for this. I dont think it was about money. I think it was much more about their egos. That doesnt mean that theyre egomaniacs or anything, but they made a decision that was best for them and the shows brand rather than whats best for the actual show itself and the listeners. It makes them bigger. It gets them a new level of press. Its revenge for enemies. But its not a better show. Can one person honestly say that they prefer 3 hours of terrestrial radio to the full 4 hour XM show?


I agree with you 100%. While I have been enjoying the show, I haven't heard one show yet under the new format that can hold a candle to the XM shows.

There just isn't anything unpredictable going on. There are so many topics they can't touch, so many soundclips they can't play...they are giving up so much content to be on terrestrial again.

Again, not saying I'm not enjoying the show because I am, but I really long for the oldern days of the 4 hour XM show.

[Oh my goodness]

Is it just me or is the "walk" kinda lame? I dont see whats so funny about it.

[joshjrounder]

Is it just me or is the "walk" kinda lame? I dont see whats so funny about it.

I love the walk over. It is just funny to hear the guys tool on random fuckers. Besides, it is either that or commercials.

[Oh my goodness]

I love the walk over. It is just funny to hear the guys tool on random fuckers. Besides, it is either that or commercials.

yeah thats true..

[BuffaloTom]

I love now how my 45 minute drive to work sometimes has 20 minutes of commercials.

[Turfmower]

I love now how my 45 minute drive to work sometimes has 20 minutes of commercials.


I lover the new deal I get to listen to them live and not the best of stuff in the 6 am hour.

[JonnyRobinson]

Im still giving the CBS show time, but it really seems kind of lame compared to the XM shows.

[Badgun]

Is it just me or is the "walk" kinda lame? I dont see whats so funny about it.

I think the walk over is cool right now, but I have a feeling that the way Opie is talking that they are going to try and make it an integral part of the show and fuck it up by trying to "make" shit happen instead of letting it happen.

Face it...some days there just won't be anything interesting going on.