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06-09-2006, 06:29 AM
These reviews should be read by those who are not easily influenced. This thread will be here so watch the Lucky Louie show at 10:30 PM Sunday on HBO before reading.

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Funny business


Wednesday, June 07, 2006
A FATHER sits at the kitchen table with his adorable 4-year-old daughter, who wants to go play outside at 5 a.m. The father says they can't, which triggers 14 or 15 consecutive "Whys?" from the daughter, as the soundtrack fills with nervous laughter.
This is a new ABC sitcom, right? Fox? Maybe something the WB is dumping on the airwaves before the network ceases to exist?
http://ads.nj.com/RealMedia/ads/adstream_nx.ads/www.nj.com/xml/story/star_ledger/co/colatv/@StoryAd?x (http://www.wackbag.com/) Unfortunately, this is "Lucky Louie," HBO's attempt to do a traditional sitcom shot on video in front of a studio audience. It's the sort of thing that makes you wonder whether the cable channel is looking to change its motto to, "Hey, you know what? It really is TV."
Louis C.K., a comedian who's written for "Saturday Night Live" and "The Chris Rock Show," plays Louie, a mechanic who works part-time because wife Kim (Pamela Adlon, the voice of Bobby on "King of the Hill") makes more money and gets benefits from her nursing job, and because somebody has to watch little Lucy (Kelly Gould).
Throughout the early portions of "Lucky Louie" (Sunday, 10:30 p.m.), I kept wondering if it was a spoof, someone's idea of what a three-camera sitcom might look like on HBO: cheap punchlines mixed with four-letter words, stock situations given an R rating.
And yet, after a while, I found myself warming, however slightly, to the show. If nothing else, I admire its honesty. Kim and Louie seem genuinely poor (their apartment is a dive with no decorations and rotting walls), instead of the usual TV conception of poor where you get to have a giant loft apartment in Soho.
And after years of watching one awful sitcom after another try to ape "Seinfeld" or "Friends" with some kind of s......ing double entendre or innuendo about something they can't sneak past the censors, it's almost refreshing to hear certain activities described in the plainest (and crudest) manner possible. When Kim catches Louie doing that thing that put George Costanza's mother in the hospital, or when he realizes she only wants to have sex to get pregnant, there's no pussy-footing around the topic, no smirking attempt to prove just how clever the writers can be at avoiding an FCC fine.
(On the other hand, a little honesty can go a long way; a later episode features three fairly graphic, albeit non-nude, sex scenes between the couple. Between those scenes and Vito's leather get-up on "The Sopranos," I'm thinking about filing a lawsuit against HBO for emotional battery -- that or I'm filing a workman's comp claim for post-traumatic stress disorder.)
But while I'll admit the bluntness of "Lucky Louie" made me laugh more than, say, your average episode of "George Lopez," there's still no excuse for its being on HBO. Despite the "Deadwood"-esque language, its rhythms are too conventionally sitcom-y, and the occasional chuckle isn't worth the long painful patches. The opening "Why?" scene with Louie and Lucy plays out like one of those Letterman running gags that starts off funny, then gets annoying, then becomes so annoying that it's funny again -- only it's never, at any point, funny.
Ever since "Sex and the City" left and "The Sopranos" approached its own end, HBO has been going through a mid-life crisis, the sort that usually leads to flashy sports cars and hair plugs. Those two shows raised the bar almost impossibly high for a pay cable outfit, and you can see the channel casting about in search of something the audience may want to watch nearly as much as the adventures of Carrie Bradshaw and Tony Soprano. Elaborate period dramas haven't really worked; neither have inside-showbiz comedies.


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HBO Finds a Way To Curb Enthusiasm
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By DAVID BLUM
June 9, 2006
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The premise of "Lucky Louie" draws heavily from "Raymond," which itself descended directly from the great marriage comedies of the 1950s and 1960s that once dominated television. Classics like "The Honeymooners" showcased needy losers and their strong, acerbic wives in relationships shaped by wit and love. The formula evolved and prospered for decades (most recently with hit shows like "Raymond" and "The Simpsons") as comedy writers explored the transformation of the American family, and embraced the values that endured. But in the case of "Lucky Louie" - in which unlucky Louie (Louis C.K.) works in a muffler shop while his sharp-tongued wife, Kim (Pamela Adlon), has a better-paying job as a nurse - nothing but sex seems to matter. Even "The Flintstones" played more with the subtle dynamics of marriage than this off-putting enterprise does.
In the first episode of "Lucky Louie," the show's executive producer and creator, Louis C.K. - who also plays the title character - sets up the ostensible thread of the first season: His wife wants to have a second baby, a desire that sets off a midcourse assessment of the troubles in their sex life. The pilot - which opens with a hilarious and endearing dialogue between Louie and his 4-year-old daughter - veers sharply off course when it delves into Louie's use of a closet to masturbate, and the implied rejection of his wife that his habit creates. It's an area that was already dealt with - and far more amusingly - on HBO's "Curb Your Enthusiasm."
Once the couple has finally moved forward with their plans to conceive in Episode 2, we get to see them actually having sex on screen (not a pretty sight), which results in Kim's first real orgasm. In truth, it's a funny enough premise, and it would have been interesting to see how a subtler show might have played with it. But on "Lucky Louie," we're witness to Louie acting like a goofy teenager who just copped his first feel. When asked by his next-door neighbor what he was thinking about when he gave his wife the orgasm - don't even ask how that conversation came to pass - Louie utters a vile and unprintable insult about his wife. It's the sort of comment that would have gotten Ray mond Barone served with divorce papers, and deservedly so.
By the end of the third episode, in which a friend of Louie's has an unexpected heart attack, you'll be amazed (and nauseated) by how many different ways the show's writers manage to relate every plot point to sex. Because this is HBO, such mentions often come with visual and verbal shocks - from the sight of Louie's penis to the use of language never before spoken in front of a live television audience. It's all done in the name of humor, but cursing stops being truly comical after the fourth grade. Here it becomes a tool for violence and distance; every time Louie and Kim swear at each other, it puts them at odds in an irreconcilable way. There's no moment in the first three episodes when you can see what brought these two together, or what keeps them a couple.
For all those who keep mourning its imminent demise, there's still great hope that the half-hour comedy will continue to mature. HBO deserves much of the credit for that, with its support in recent years for innovative shows like "The Larry Sanders Show," "Sex and the City," and "Curb Your Enthusiasm." But in this effort to move the multicamera sitcom forward into a new era, HBO has stumbled badly. The channel that changed television forever has reversed direction, delivering an obscene and outdated take on the medium's most enduring classics. Discerning viewers - and that comprises virtually anyone who pays the premium for HBO programming each month - will quickly and resoundingly reject "Lucky Louie."


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REVIEW
Everybody probably won't love Louie

BY DIANE WERTS
STAFF WRTIER

June 9, 2006

Now we know why live-audience sitcoms run just 22 minutes and sidestep wanton swearing and sex. Discipline improves the product.

Exhibit A: HBO's new "Lucky Louie," which does neither and suffers the less-than-hilarious consequences.

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There's still something about the Much-Maligned Formula that simply clicks, given talent, commitment and creativity. Exhibit A: "Everybody Loves Raymond," which followed the basic rules yet felt fresh and crisp, thanks to its emotionally rooted characters and sharply observed situations. "Raymond's" subtle writing even managed to be adult without being coarse or offensive.

In "Lucky Louie," HBO attempts to reinvigorate the live-audience format by pushing graphic bedroom situations, man-talk cursing and explicit sex talk, without an equal level of explicit craft behind it. Louis C.K., one of stand-up's main men, goes down for the count as a muffler shop mechanic forever desperate to get some from his wife, an overworked nurse (Pamela Adlon). As if that weren't enough, he's also trying to make "a black friend" in his new apartment-house neighbor, a ham-handed subplot straight from Archie Bunker's era.

Sunday's pilot actually starts off promisingly, with a two-hander between Louie and his 5-ish daughter - a "Why?" assault from her that has him confessing his drug-addled youth, deconstructing the service economy and wryly concluding, "God's dead, and we're alone." The scene neatly sets up the show's situation, while teasing a depth of comedic character too rarely revisited. Instead, we're hurled easy masturbation jokes, tasteless sex tales from the guys at the shop and family friend Laura Kightlinger making love to a roast at the grocery store. Wife yearns for another baby, but Louie pleads being broke in such excessive observations as "Your [genitalia] is a chamber of financial ruin." It takes 31 minutes to deliver this.

Men are pigs also resounds as the theme next week, which adds several awkward sex scenes and attendant toys to the litany of four-letter words, five-letter words and 12-letter words. There's certainly comedy to be found in these basic situations, but not in "Lucky Louie's" confounding approach or stilted presentation. Louie's mostly a lug, and his guy pals range from self-interested to despicable. The women talk dirty the way men wish they did.

Too bad. This could have been a welcome return to the "Roseanne" real world of plain people feeling trapped in workaday lives. "Louie" gets the look right, shooting on videotape that details use-scarred walls and the lines on tired faces. But the "comedy," unleavened by the rethinking of restraint, gets simply in-your-face, not in your brain or emotions. Lucky isn't the word that comes to mind.

LUCKY LOUIE. HBO tackles the sitcom. The sitcom gets sacked. Series premieres Sunday night at 10:30.


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http://www.calendarlive.com/images/standard/empty.gif June 7, 2006

TELEVISION REVIEW
Funny how HBO has changed


By Paul Brownfield, Times Staff Writer

Dane Cook is a comedian for these "American Idol" times: youthful, accessible and karaoke-good. His dead-on rendition of an exciting new headliner (circa 20 years ago), coupled with Brad Pitt looks (for a comic) and Internet savvy (www.myspace.com/danecook, with his 1,138,772 "friends"), propelled him into a development deal with HBO, a relationship whose latest outing, premiering at 11 Sunday night, is "Tourgasm."

"Tourgasm," a reality-type show in which Cook goes on the road in a rock-star bus with three lesser lights, is certain to excite the young fans who sent his "Retaliation" CD soaring up the charts and leave everyone else behind. If you're among the stranded, it isn't you — or wait, sorry, I'm afraid it is: Cook is as bulletproof among fans as he is unspectacular to anyone who's watched much comedy in the previous two decades.

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You should double-check this, but I think HBO once broke emerging comics as artists, not as audience-pleasers who were destined to please the next audience. But the pay cable network is coming off a season of arch, Hollywood-insider comedies such as "The Comeback," which not only failed to catch on but also made the network seem dangerously removed from the mainstream. That trend now lurches in the opposite direction: HBO evidently is eager to co-opt Cook's new-media viability as much as Cook wants the cred that HBO conveys. For Cook, it's not TV. For HBO, it's not TV, either. It's iTunes.

"Tourgasm" is the Sunday nightcap in a block of new comedies that includes the third-season debut of "Entourage" and the premiere of a sitcom called "Lucky Louie," starring another comedian, Louis C.K., who previously wrote for "Late Night With Conan O'Brien" and "The Chris Rock Show."

If "Tourgasm" is steeped in VH1, both "Entourage" and "Lucky Louie" exude that old HBO counter-network-intuitiveness, at different extremes: "Entourage" is basically "Friends" with Hummers, while "Lucky Louie" attempts to repudiate all that "Friends" did to the sitcom in the first place.

"Lucky Louie," about a young couple with honest money troubles, is harshly lighted, and it has the studio audience and laugh track; it feels as if you've happened across a British sitcom or a rerun of "MADtv."

Louie is a part-time mechanic in a muffler shop, and his wife, Kim (Pamela Adlon, the voice of Bobby on "King of the Hill"), is a full-time hospital nurse. The supporting cast of misfits, used unevenly so far, are unwashed types normally relegated to guest-star status (Michael G. Hagerty, for instance, was the occasionally seen apartment superintendent on "Friends," but here he's Louie's best friend who cracks weary-wise and smokes cigarettes).

Kim takes the bus to work, and Louie wears T-shirts that have shrunk and faded in the laundry. The sets on "Louie" suggest a decaying burg — doughnut shop, fenced-in playground, check-cashing place.

This all makes it a rarity, socioeconomically; most network shows, post-"Roseanne," uniformly abandoned portrayals of the lower-middle class — the expression "blue collar" becoming network shorthand for anything that wasn't like "Frasier."

"Louie," then, recalls the era of "Sanford and Son," "All in the Family" and "Good Times." This is HBO chasing itself by the tail, for wasn't it "Sex and the City" that ushered in glossy, single-camera quasi-sophistication, which in turn balkanized the multi-camera family comedy as red state?

"Louie's" opening scene is an intentionally stock network sitcom tableau: kewpie-doll kid, sardonic dad are at breakfast, the 4-year-old Lucy (Kelly Gould) peppering her father with cute-as-a-button inquisitiveness, questions ranging from why is it still dark outside to why didn't dad pay attention in school.

The first answer ("the Earth goes around, and when it turns a certain amount the sun shows on the horizon") sets up the comic release of the second one ("Because I was high all the time. I smoked too much pot").

It's the kind of line that doesn't make it out of the writers' room on network shows, where tradition has long held that sitcom folks sit in a room all day, unfurling obscenities in order to arrive at the compromised line that gets to the stage. It's why a writer's assistant on "Friends" sued for sexual harassment but didn't win, the California Supreme Court affirming last April that writers' room vulgarity was reasonable on a show in which "explicit sexual references typically were replaced with innuendos, imagery, similes, allusions, puns, or metaphors in order to convey sexual themes in a form suitable for broadcast on network television."

No such shell game is needed on "Louie," which is free to swear and abuse this privilege but is actually pretty judicious (when Louie refers to his wife's privates, the actual word is less funny than its metaphor as "a chamber of financial ruin"). In the pilot, Kim catches Louie masturbating, which leads to a renewed commitment to have sex, which leads to Louie discovering Kim wants to get pregnant again.

"Do you know how much we have in checking? Negative $50," Louie tells her about the risks of bearing another child. "We have to raise $50 just to be broke."

More than the raunch — which keeps migrating to broadcast, anyway — this is what makes "Lucky Louie" interesting. It dares to utter that eight-letter word: "checking."

"Tourgasm" takes place in an America we don't see, either, but this is because we're locked inside a bus with four guys mugging at a hand-held camera. It's "Entourage" on the cheap, without the fun stuff — Ari's showy rants or Drama's neediness — and with even less at stake.

The comics that make up Dane Cook's touring posse — Jay Davis, Gary Gulman and Robert Kelly — convey the same airborne sense of sponging off of a star that Vince's buds exude. Off the bus, they play with toys; on the bus, they sleep, fart and discuss porn. Here's what HBO hates to hear: It's been done before, and funnier, on Comedy Central's "Comedians of Comedy," for one.

Cook is very likable, very high energy, and he has all the well-minted comic's moves down pat — the sound effects, the jumping about, the patter. It's as a persona that he stands out — the rock-star following, the comic as Smashing Pumpkin.

But the world at large doesn't tax him; finally, in Episode 3, I saw him crack a USA Today (the Life section). No wonder: His material (not that you see much of it) is about things like car crashes and fast-food drive-thrus and how there's always that one friend in a group that nobody else likes.

On "Tourgasm," Cook is working the college circuit, where a comedian might chance to discuss the war in Iraq. But he's an embodiment of the depressing axiom among comics that nothing bums out an audience faster than politics (except for comics like Lewis Black, whose newest HBO special, premiering Saturday, is called "Red, White & Screwed").

Funny, this aversion to the world outside his bus, because Cook is at least partly a politician, shaking each and every hand and signing each and every bra and responding to each and every instant message from fans, having blazed a trail for himself with his hit website.

"Tourgasm" is about two things," he tells the camera, in a moment of reflection after the show at Sonoma State. "It's about comedy and our love for comedy and our passion for getting up and entertaining … people, and it's about finding your voice, and sharing your life with other people."

His legion all know the back story behind his hand signal, the Su-Fi. It's all kind of Scientology-seeming on the one hand, but ingenious and adaptive on the other: The jokester as your Friendster.


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HBO's 'Louie' more lousy than lucky

Updated 6/8/2006 11:23 PM ET

By Robert Bianco, USA TODAY
HBO's luck has run out.
Once seen as a televised art house, thanks to series such as Sex and the City and Six Feet Under, HBO has discovered the downside of early success: You're expected to replicate it. Instead, the pay service has ceded ratings and creative ground to basic cable through a string of failures including The Mind of the Married Man, The Comeback, Carnivale, K Street and Unscripted. Even HBO's better series, The Wire, Deadwood and Entourage, can't approach the ratings of The Sopranos, which disappointed fans itself by ending an unpopular season with a finale most didn't think was final enough.
So you can see why HBO would attempt to break its pattern by doing something it has never done: a traditional studio-audience-style sitcom with an only-on-cable adult twist. The smarmy result is Lucky Louie (Sunday, 10:30 p.m. ET/PT), a show so vile, it makes you think the company's arrogant It's Not TV — It's HBO slogan isn't a brag — it's a threat.
Created by and starring writer Louis C.K., Lucky Louie follows the adventures of a lower-class, blue-collar couple living in a ramshackle apartment. The plots revolve around family sitcom favorites, such as Louie's wife's desire to have another child — only in this case the focus is on the act of procreation rather than the result. Sorry, but adding nudity and profanity to old jokes, old situations and old fights doesn't make them new or better or, in this case, amusing. It just makes them unpleasant.
What's offensive about Louie is its condescending insistence that working-class couples never get their minds out of the bedroom and their mouths out of the gutter. Some of the sex scenes themselves actually are funny, in an incredibly crude way. But when two women have a graphic discussion of their sex lives in a supermarket aisle, you know it has nothing to do with the characters and everything to do with Louie's desire to shock. All it does is repulse.
There's no profanity on Louie you won't also hear on HBO's returning Deadwood (Sunday, 9 ET/PT), but in Deadwood, the words serve artistic purpose. Coupled with the characters' poetic if somewhat impenetrable syntax, the language separates us from these Wild West residents, and them from their more settled, civilized contemporaries. For all the artificiality of the language, there has seldom been a show that felt more authentic.
Considering Deadwood is returning in excellent creative form, you'd think people would be focused on the episodes ahead. Instead, HBO allowed word of the show's cancellation to precede its return, stirring up a firestorm that forced the network to commission two story-concluding movies.
Which means the only undulled bright spot in the Sunday lineup is the remarkably sweet-spirited Entourage (10 ET/PT), which returns for a third season with funnier episodes and higher stakes, as Vince awaits the results of his big movie premiere. These are wildly over-privileged people partying through a world few of us will ever glimpse, and yet they feel more like three-dimensional, likable human beings than Louie's maniacally cursing cartoons can ever hope to achieve. It's amazing what better writing and acting can do.
Yet HBO is wasting this lead-in on Lucky Louie. That's not bad luck. That's just sheer stupidity.
And that, sad to say, often is TV.
Posted 6/8/2006 9:26 PM ET Updated 6/8/2006 11:23 PM ET

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HBO banks on the boys with a trio of comedies

By Matthew Gilbert, Globe Staff | June 9, 2006
Call it ``guys' night in." On Sunday, HBO begins a new programming lineup featuring a bunch of porn-using, attention-loving, curse-inventing, beer-belly-bearing dudes. Sure, these men bust each other plenty, but they always hug it out -- with conspicuous non sexual back pats, of course.



With Tony Soprano and his crew weakening and then departing in 2007, HBO is declaring a new demographic war on young men. This summer, from 9 to 11:30 p.m. on HBO's most valuable night, you'll find a sort of Howard Stern - flavored sundae with Vince Vaughn sprinkles on top. Look for the good (``Entourage"), the bad (``Dane Cook's Tourgasm"), and the ugly (``Lucky Louie"), all airing right after the return of HBO's most brilliantly artful of stinky sinkholes, David Milch's ``Deadwood."
Seriously, you wouldn't want to do laundry for the HBO men, who now include the comedian Louis C.K., a one-time Boston boy. His explicit sitcom, ``Lucky Louie," premieres in the 10:30 slot, and it's one of HBO's more fascinating series -- but not because it's good, or funny.
It's actually a failed experiment in TV genre, and a reminder of the power of the unspoken and the unseen in entertainment. When you can swear like a sailor and simulate love making openly in an old-fashioned sitcom, as the actors do on ``Lucky Louie," you don't generate much excitement or outrageousness. Often, shock depends on the forbidden for its ballast.
``Lucky Louie" is HBO's first-ever conventional multi-camera sitcom, complete with live audience laughter and a fake-looking set. It's the antithesis of the more sophisticated TV comedy that HBO has championed, from ``The Larry Sanders Show" to ``Sex and the City." But while ``Lucky Louie" mimics old-school sitcoms such as ``The Honeymooners," ``Roseanne," and ``The King of Queens," it's also frankly sexual. In tonight's episode, for instance, Kim (Pamela Adlon) catches her chunky lug of a husband Louie pleasuring himself in a closet. Next week, the series becomes even more unreserved, as the couple make love during a scene -- while exchanging quips, naturally.
Kim is a nurse who suffers Louie's quirks; Louie is a James Belushi type with a part-time job at a muffler shop and buddies with whom he can complain about women; and they have one adorable preteen daughter. They're just another working-class TV family, and if the same characters appeared on a network series they'd be definitively unoriginal.
On HBO, they're definitely unoriginal -- with sex. But let's be kind and say that Louie C.K. and HBO are ambitiously trying to usher an antique sitcom format into today's risque standards and see how it holds up. It's a study in cultural change. I don't think HBO would have anything to do with this lousy series if that weren't the agenda.
The masturbation content on ``Lucky Louie," so self-conscious and forced, made me think of the ``Contest" episode of ``Seinfeld," when the four friends competed to see who could refrain the longest. The word ``masturbation" was never used (according to Julia Louis-Dreyfus, NBC forbade it) and that fact made the half-hour funnier than ever.



``Will & Grace" also toyed successfully with ``dangerous" material, as the writers mustered their wit to make their sexual humor clear and yet stealth. Prudishness is boring, but pushing the envelope isn't fun when the envelope is torn wide open.
``Entourage" is compensation for ``Lucky Louie." Entering its third season Sunday at 10 p.m., ``Entourage" is the Hollywood satire with a heart. It makes good fun of movie-business self-importance and superficiality, in the way Fox's failed sitcom ``Action" did. But it also includes a collection of affectionately drawn characters whose successes and failures matter to us, and whose boyishness is amusing. The gang of five -- star Vince, brother Johnny Drama, dude-in-waiting Turtle, manager Eric, and agent Ari -- has jelled into a dynamic unit.
Based on the first three episodes, this season will add dimension to the characters, including Jeremy Piven's Ari, whose expanding sado-masochistic rapport with receptionist Lloyd (Rex Lee) has become one of the series' little gems. In the first episode, we meet the guys' moms, most notably Vince and Johnny's mother, when Vince tries to lure her to LA for the opening of his ``Aquaman." In a bit of perfect casting, she's played by Mercedes Ruehl. She's more like Johnny, with superstitions and competitiveness, but she probably doted on her baby Vince. Also, in episode 3, we meet one of the guys' buddies from Queens, as well as Ari's daughter's boyfriend.
The successes and failures of these guys -- and they are all guys, since female characters such as Debi Mazar's publicist get little attention -- has been a great device. They can never quite relax, because fame and money are so fickle and fleeting in Hollywood. Vince is only as good as his last movie, and if ``Aquaman" isn't a blockbuster, he, his friends, and Ari will be yesterday's news. And as long as they're on their toes, they're worth watching.
The oddest thing about ``Tourgasm," at 11, is that it's like a nonfictional ``Entourage." The docu-reality show follows four male comedians who live on a bus together as they perform around the country. Dane Cook has a Vince-like presence, since he is t he most successful and charismatic of the four. He's surrounded by Robert Kelly, Jay Davis, and Gary Gulman, each of whom has character traits similar to the guys in Vince's posse. As their customized ``Tourgasm" bus cruises along, they lose track of time and place, nerves go on edge, and mundane reality arguments occur.
And that's about it. We get snippets of the guys onstage at their gigs, but most of ``Tourgasm" tracks the morale on the bus. One minute, the porn jokes are flying, the next Davis is having a snit fit because he doesn't want to talk about porn. Whenever there is a clash, Cook jumps in as a peacekeeper, in case we didn't already know he's a nice guy. ``We've got to be the glue for each other," he tells the viewers.
But in trying to make the bus melodramas seem important, Cook stretches too far. This is a cross-country tour, something most performers have experienced, and there's nothing particularly special about it. Cook pretends that the bus dynamics are TV gold, but you can feel him straining to be convincing.
Cook is headed for greater stardom, for sure; just watch him dance around the stage as he pours out his stand - up material. He's a likable and formidable force. But ``Tourgasm" isn't going to get him to the top any faster. His show is too much like a dull season of MTV's ``Road Rules," without the women.
Matthew Gilbert can be reached at gilbert@globe.com.

edzeppe
06-09-2006, 08:43 AM
This is from the Detroit Free Press.... 3/4 stars.... and he seems to actually get it... he actually makes a lot of the same points that Jimmy did.




BLUE-COLLAR COMEDY: 'Lucky Louie' isn't the usual HBO fare

June 9, 2006


From the traditional sitcom look of it, you might think HBO was downright screwy to say yes to "Lucky Louie."

"Some people won't like it," says veteran stand-up comic Louis C.K., matter-of-factly acknowledging that his brash new comedy series may alienate "the cool people." Those are the discriminating TV viewers generally appalled by sitcoms with guffawing studio audiences, and specifically the HBO viewers who prefer the laugh-track-free zone of trendier amusements like "Entourage" or "Curb Your Enthusiasm."

"This show is queer. People are laughing and they're trying to tell me when to laugh," says C.K., doing a quick impersonation of one of those hipsters. We'll know the verdict after C.K.'s rowdily impertinent blue-collar grouch and his family are released on America at 10:30 p.m. Sunday on HBO.

(The comic adopted the stage moniker Louis C.K. because his hard-to-pronounce Hungarian surname was show biz-unfriendly.).

"Lucky Louie" is, in an odd way, another groundbreaking show for HBO. It's the fashionable pay cable channel's first standard-issue, multi-camera, live-audience sitcom. But this isn't "According to Jim" or "The King of Queens" with four-letter words and more attitude.

"Lucky Louie" is a true original -- a pleasantly twisted variation on "The Honeymooners" or "Roseanne" for the 21st Century. Inspired by Louis C.K.'s 22 years of everyman stand-up comedy, the series anchors its rambunctiously off-center humor in the downscale irascibility of Louie, a part-time mechanic content to let his wife Kim (Pamela Adlon), a nurse, be the full-time family breadwinner.

He's a working-class zero and darn proud of it.

Louie's main goals seem to be not letting his wife catch him masturbating, and persuading the new African-American neighbors down the hall that he's not a racially insensitive clod. Good luck on both those things, Louie.

It's in Louie's and Kim's honest, quarrelsome and nevertheless intensely loving relationship that you feel the echoes of Ralph and Alice Kramden. And you also sense it in their plain, scrimping-to-make-ends-meet apartment furnishings.

"Actually, 'The Honeymooners' was a big inspiration for this. Just a table, chairs and two people slugging it out," says C.K. during a recent HBO teleconference.

Of course, the Kramdens didn't have a kid. Louie and Kim are the parents of a young, curious daughter, Lucy (Kelly Gould). We also never saw Ralph and Alice having sex on "The Honeymooners."

Make that laugh-out-loud funny sex.

"It's very married sex. Just two married people having awkward sex," jokes family man C.K., who promises that the only partial nudity we'll see is "male nudity because it's funny...a naked man is just stupid!"

And by stupid -- i.e. C.K.'s "wide, fat chest" -- he means outlandish and amusing.

"Because our show is allowed to lurch around, it can be really funny," says C.K. "Sitcoms are very careful about what they show and what they confront, but life isn't like that."

So "Lucky Louie" lurches around in its own refreshing maverick fashion, confronting married and family life head-on with a wickedly honest, frequently profane adult humor; finding the funny bone strike zone in everything from paying the bills to marital sex.

Come on, you cool people. After "Entourage" rolls out the red carpet on a new season at 10 o'clock, stick around for a blast of blue-collar chucklehead bliss.

Funny is money. And "Lucky Louie" is filthy rich with good laughs.

Shane1V
06-09-2006, 09:45 AM
I'm not crazy about the promo ads....
& the fact that Jimmys name isn't even on the info on TiVO :icon_evil

edzeppe
06-09-2006, 10:01 AM
I'm not crazy about the promo ads....
& the fact that Jimmys name isn't even on the info on TiVO :icon_evil

It doesnt matter whether or not he's the focus of the show... Its a project that he stands behind and believes in, and in general, i think a lot of people respect jimmys views on comedy.

Dark Reyule
06-09-2006, 10:03 AM
The promos looked so-so, but seeing Jimmy in that snipet with the gun made it all worth while.

I know my wife won't like it for sure, as she doesn't care for the O and A show, which leads me to believe I will love it!

Teddy
06-09-2006, 11:44 AM
jjimmys lines killed the rest had it moments

Shane1V
06-09-2006, 11:50 AM
The promos looked so-so, but seeing Jimmy in that snipet with the gun made it all worth while.

I know my wife won't like it for sure, as she doesn't care for the O and A show, which leads me to believe I will love it!

This post leads me to believe you need a new wife

JoeyDVDZ
06-09-2006, 11:56 AM
Well, just finished the 1st ep. It has potential. Jimmy was funny as shit, and when the kid shows up & stands there waiting, I thought it was gonna be a glory hole moment.

Some of the acting was very stiff, but I chalk that up to new show jitters. I'm gonna keep watching & see where it goes.

TheBattleVirus
06-09-2006, 12:44 PM
I love Jimmy's stand-up and I love Louis CK's stand-up. I thought CK's One Night Stand was arguably the best of all of them, definitely up there with Patrice, Bill Burr, and Norton. That's all it takes for me to give the show a Season Pass on the TiVo. I haven't loved the previews I've seen for it, but I'll tune in and watch great comics on show that's a different concept.

tstlkevanilla
06-09-2006, 12:57 PM
I'm gonna have to watch the show when I get home.

JSHAW
06-09-2006, 01:01 PM
Variety.com review by Brian Lowry

The multicamera sitcomsitcom format has a half-century of history behind it, so seeing HBO attempt to turn the genre on its head through sheer raunchiness is initially jarring -- almost like hearing children curse. The novelty, not surprisingly, wears off quickly, though there are still some extremely funny moments in this blue-collar comedy, a wildly uneven half-hour built around acerbic standup Louis C.K.Louis C.K. Hardly everyone's cup of tea, "Lucky Louie" will have its loyalists, though likely as a narrow cult confection.

Indeed, if sitcoms traditionally skew toward females, "Lucky Louie" should appeal principally to guys -- filled as it is with jokes about masturbation and the frustrations of the terminally married. The set itself resembles "The Honeymooners," the most mundane and drab of apartments, then distilled through a fun-house prism, with the initial episodes providing occasional glimpses of (mostly bad) sex and, in later installments, male nudity.

Louie (Louis C.K., who doubles as a writer-producer) works part time in a muffler shop while wife Kim (Pamela Adlon) is the primary earner as a full-time nurse, and they have a young child. In the premiere, she catches him engaging in a form of stress relief in the hall closet. Inasmuch as the two haven't had sex in months, her sudden interest in reversing that trend triggers Louie's suspicion that she harbors an ulterior motive -- namely, a desire to have another kid, prompting him to dub her most private of areas "a chamber of financial ruin."

The supporting cast includes Louie's gruff buddy Mike (the well-traveled Mike Hagerty) and drug-dealing pal Rich (Jim Norton) as well as Walter (Jerry Minor), the patriarch of a neighboring African-American family whom Louie inadvertently keeps insulting.

Like most sitcoms, this one tends to focus on a theme within each episode -- though here, the topics include frank discussions about Kim having an orgasm and Louie's pathetic eating habits. Perhaps the best moment comes during the premiere's pre-credit sequence, when Louie fields a series of "why" questions from his daughter and finally explains, "Because God is dead and we're alone."

Although the show seems designed to generate shock value, cheerful vulgarity is welcome as long as its clever -- think of the audience that (once upon a time, anyway) flipped between listening to Howard Stern and National Public Radio. The problem is that "Louie" struggles to make that blue streak feel organic, at which point some gags come across as forced and a little smutty -- "Home Improvement" on acid.

Adlon (formerly Pamela Segall, and among other things the voice of Bobby on "King of the Hill""King Of The Hill") possesses a strong comic presence that offers a fine counterpoint to C.K.'s standup delivery, but again, her blunt banter with Mike's wife Tina (Laura Kightlinger) at times feels labored.

Given HBO's strong association with single-camera half-hours, credit the pay net with at least exploring an about-face by seizing upon the familiar sitcom template and trying to enliven it with the "It's not TV" imprimatur. And if the experiment doesn't wholly succeed, considering the bad luck that sitcoms have recently experienced, "Louie" is at least worth taking a roll of the dice.

greensnacks
06-09-2006, 01:02 PM
Be your own critic.
http://www.metacritic.com/tv/shows/luckylouie
http://www.tv.com/lucky-louie/show/22532/summary.html

Chester'sLiver
06-09-2006, 01:48 PM
I watched the first episode, and it was alright. I will give a few episodes more. I think it has potential.

assWhack
06-09-2006, 03:14 PM
I watched the first episode, and it was alright. I will give a few episodes more. I think it has potential.

Yeah, I have the same review. The first episode had like 5 laughs for me, but it's rare for a show to be good in the beginning. Little jimmy was only in it for like 60 seconds. I thought the black barbie doll saga was funny. That little kid should be carved into pieces though. I hate children, and they are rarely funny.

JoeyDVDZ
06-09-2006, 04:08 PM
Yeah, I have the same review. The first episode had like 5 laughs for me, but it's rare for a show to be good in the beginning. Little jimmy was only in it for like 60 seconds. I thought the black barbie doll saga was funny. That little kid should be carved into pieces though. I hate children, and they are rarely funny.
Quoted for truth. The little kid is such a fuckin mush-mouth, that I just didn't give a fuck what she was saying.

ZeoVGM
06-09-2006, 06:17 PM
Hey look, another good review from a site that actually matters, as it's for the audience that matters for this show.

IGN's review:

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Lucky Louie: ''Pilot''
Advance Review: An hysterically lewd and crude new sitcom from HBO and standup comedian Louie C.K.
by Eric Goldman

June 8, 2006 - HBO has done a lot of innovative programming through the years, from The Larry Sanders Show to The Sopranos and Deadwood. But one thing they've never done is a sitcom. Sure, they've had comedies like Curb Your Enthusiasm and Entourage, but they've always been single-camera shows often shot outside the confines of a soundstage, and there certainly was never a studio audience.

But proving that sometimes breaking the mold involves going back to the basics, HBO's new series Lucky Louie is in fact a "traditional" sitcom. Created by and starring standup comic Louis C.K., who also wrote the pilot, Lucky Louie isn't exactly what you'd call high concept and it certainly isn't artistically dynamic. The show's visual style is crude in an almost aggressive way and each episode begins with a cast member saying in voiceover that "Lucky Louie is taped in front of a live studio audience," drawing attention to the fact that this isn't what you'd refer to as lovingly filmed. As for the overall plot, C.K. stars as Louie, an average working class guy married to Kim (Pamela Adlon). The show focuses on Louie and Kim's marriage as they raise their young daughter Lucy (Kelly Gould) and their interactions with their friends and neighbors. Basically, the setup is like a million other sitcoms before it, but the show once again proves it's all in the execution.

Make no mistake, Lucky Louie may be a sitcom, but it's an HBO show through and through. The curse words, including liberal use of F-Bombs and other assorted language that can get you into trouble based on who's around, flies fast and furious. The result is a unique experience: By now we're used to cable shows being able to say whatever they want, but still, it's odd and especially funny to hear these things said in the middle of a sitcom. Yes, there is plenty of comedy based around the dirty language, but this isn't a show that just uses curse words without any context; the jokes are often a bit shocking, but most importantly, they're genuinely clever and hysterical… I just can't repeat a lot of them here. And language aside, this simply isn't the kind of family sitcom content you'd find on the networks. The opening scene, based on a bit from C.K.'s comedy act, finds him sitting with Lucy, who traps him in a continually escalating series of life lessons as she asks, "Why?" to everything he tells her. When Lucy asks why her daddy wasn't a good student and he responds to the four or five year old with, "Because I was high all the time… I smoked too much pot," you know you're not in According to Jim Land.

[Editor's Note: You can check out the full "Why?" scene discussed above for yourself, in IGN's exclusive Lucky Louie clip (http://media.tv.ign.com/media/830/830115/vids_1.html)!]

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Photo: Randy Tepper/HBO
Louis C.K. stars on HBO's Lucky Louie

With no real acting roles before this aside from some sketch comedy and voiceover work, C.K. is very good as Louie, playing a typical guy who is just trying to make it through the day, get some sex from his wife and hopefully not upset too many people. A very funny scene finds Louie's attempts to befriend his new African-American neighbor Walter (Jerry Minor) thwarted when Walter spots Louie throwing out the black Barbie doll his family gave to Lucy as a gift, as Louie keeps digging a deeper hole for himself while trying to explain what's going on. Another well done and outrageous sequence for C.K. begins with Louie eating a cake directly from the trash and escalates as he decides to masturbate when he spots a hot looking picture of Jessica Simpson in a magazine. When Kim catches him and notes with disdain his choice for a fantasy girl, he replies, "I'm not jerking off to her music!"

The supporting cast -- including veteran character actor Mike Hagerty and standup comic Laura Kightlinger -- are very strong, with the extremely funny Aldon proving to be a major standout. A talented voiceover actress best known as none other than Bobby Hill from King of the Hill, Adlon is accessible and attractive in a realistic, atypical way compared to most "Sitcom Wives." The brunt of the pilot deals with the snarky Kim's attempts to seduce Louie in order to make a baby, and him finding himself in the odd scenario of running away from sex, because he believes they can't afford another kid. Aldon and C.K. are both great in a scene in the family kitchen in which Kim throws herself at Louie, which involves one of the funniest, bawdiest lines I've heard in a long time. Hint: the line involves money and a common term for vagina that has feline connotations.

Having seen two more future episodes of Lucky Louie, I can attest to it continuing to be a strong, well-written show that had me laughing out loud many, many times. While hardly suitable for the whole family, this raunchy comedy about a family is as funny as can be.

9 out of 10
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ZeoVGM
06-09-2006, 06:20 PM
Oh, and I love that the line Jimmy brought up on the show is getting recognition:

Aldon and C.K. are both great in a scene in the family kitchen in which Kim throws herself at Louie, which involves one of the funniest, bawdiest lines I've heard in a long time. Hint: the line involves money and a common term for vagina that has feline connotations.

dodisman
06-09-2006, 06:37 PM
SLAMMED left and right...but this type of shit happens all the time...we'll find out tomorrow if it sits with the pests...i'll watch the shit regardless..its only a halfhour...

ZeoVGM
06-09-2006, 06:43 PM
SLAMMED left and right...but this type of shit happens all the time...

Dude, I just posted a 9/10 review.

dodisman
06-09-2006, 07:35 PM
Touche Douche....Here's a link to METACRITIC.COM which is a great jumping off point for reviews...

http://www.metacritic.com/tv/shows/luckylouie?q=lucky%20louis

ZeoVGM
06-09-2006, 07:45 PM
No it isn't. What matters is looking at the reviews by respected places, and more importantly, places that reflect the audience of the show.

This is a show that SHOULD be getting quite a few bad reviews because reviewers are old and out of touch douchebags.

When something is different and pushes the boundries of a genre (like the studio audience sitcom, for example), that's reason enough for it to get bad reviews from some people.

Seinfeld got bad reviews and only average ratings when it first started, for a couple seasons.

dodisman
06-09-2006, 07:52 PM
Uh...yes Metacritic is a great place to start...Bad reviews ARE relevant...just because a review is negative doesn't mean the guy writing the fucking review is out of touch...Metacritic has reviews for L.L. from the DETROIT FREE PRESS, CHICAGO TRIBUNE, HOLLYWOOD REPORTER, NY DAILY NEWS, LA TIMES, VARIETY...SO get your head out of your ass...Calling Metacritic a shite jumping off point is like saying Rotten Tomatoes is a shit place to start for a movie review.....And I am not scouring the internet looking for anything review that will be positive for the show...if i laugh then i'll like it...i'm not going to just blindly like the show just because Norton is in it or something

cokelogic
06-09-2006, 10:59 PM
Here's my review: HBO shows The Sopranos, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Da Ali G Show and Entourage. They know a thing or two about a thing or two; without seeing it, it can't be all that bad.

jpc165
06-09-2006, 11:08 PM
fuck these critics. i will judge it sunday night. usualluy critics can suck the snotty end of my fuckstick..

HumpX
06-09-2006, 11:32 PM
Evidently you can't have a successful sitcom nowadays unless you have a bunch of white collar nebbish self-depricating Jews and/or collegiate types with snappy clever dialogue.

This sounds an awful lot like the type of reviews Married with Children got when it first ran on Fox years ago. What the critics missed is that the vast majority of the audience, the working class, found far more to relate to in that show than a hundred Cosby's and Seinfelds. Of course the critics live in an insulated world of professionals and media types who kowtow to politically correct morals , far away from the distaste of having to deal with the working class and the more earthy humor most of us who work for a living know about. In their world no one calls their wives a "cunt" lest she run to family services to have a restraining order put on him. Thats the mindset of these too-cool-for-the-room wankers.

This is all very typical shit and its a major reason I haven't watched Television steadily since 1998 when I bought mmy first PC. Good luck to Jimmy anyhow, if it succeeds it'll be that much sweeter of a victory. :xyxthumbs

patty's wig
06-10-2006, 12:17 AM
imdb has an interesting review of Lucky Louie. http://imdb.com/title/tt0460619/


LUCKY LOUIE

The point of Lucky Louie, 16 April 2006
Author: kmanton from United States


In no way is it supposed to be groundbreaking like Six Feet Under, The Sorpranos, or any other HBO programming. Lucky Louie is a sitcom that is filmed, and can be shown, on HBO. They intentionally aren't trying to break the box here, folks; that's the point. I am looking forward to this show because I am sick and tired of the generic, pansy, overly formulaic, and frankly unfunny sitcom shows on network TV (and by this I don't mean My Name Is Earl, The Office, or Arrested Development, but of the Freddy, Dharma and Greg variety). This show will be a breath of fresh air and will give me a great night of comedy (Entourage, Lucky Louie and Tourgasm). I can't wait.

Also, I'm sad to report that cast member Jim Norton might not make season 2 because of his battle with AIDS. I'm currently watching his puppy and refilling his broth bowl. Thoughts and prayers.

44 of 46 people found this review useful.

NoFilterPaul
06-10-2006, 12:59 AM
If you didn't get a DVD today, just got to www.tv.com and watch it online - and then post you own review

whitethunder
06-10-2006, 01:09 AM
If you didn't get a DVD today, just got to www.tv.com and watch it online - and then post you own review

yeah I saw it on there last night

decent show wasnt as funny as I thought. Nortons scene was freaking great but otherwise so-so. Let it have time to grow and we'll see.

Any why did they get a midget as a wife to louie ??

Angelfuck
06-10-2006, 01:39 AM
just watchin it now, cryin because she got a black barbie.. holy shit.. :icon_lol:

RMPGP
06-10-2006, 01:46 AM
I'm seeing Louie CK live pretty soon, can't wait to watch this show, I have to figure out how to get a disc for him to sign after the show.

dodisman
06-10-2006, 07:29 AM
First episode had some funny lines...The pacing seemed off...Felt like it was a videotaped play....If that is what they are going for maybe they are on to something but not sure the flow works for me...I think it was more vulgar then it needed to be in that some Louie's and his wife's lines didn't seem like they would really be said by those characters...it didn't leave me saying "can't wait for next week"...but i'm going to watch regardless so i'll just hope that the show grows on me...most shows take time...

NortonsSTD
06-10-2006, 10:58 AM
I was at the season finale, and was shown the pilot before they shot the episode, so I've seen two episodes. Jimmy had some good lines, but overall i thought the show stunk. There were a few laughs here and there, but it was mostly boring to be honest. I tried to be open minded when I went in, and wanted to love it just because Norton was in it, but it's just not a very good show. I don't see it lasting more than one season, but I hope it does open some doors for Jimmy.

XmsVagina
06-10-2006, 11:15 AM
First episode had some funny lines...The pacing seemed off...Felt like it was a videotaped play....If that is what they are going for maybe they are on to something but not sure the flow works for me...I think it was more vulgar then it needed to be in that some Louie's and his wife's lines didn't seem like they would really be said by those characters...it didn't leave me saying "can't wait for next week"...but i'm going to watch regardless so i'll just hope that the show grows on me...most shows take time...

Summed up how I felt exactly...

jpc165
06-10-2006, 11:26 AM
Is the show going to be in HD widescreen?

progambler
06-10-2006, 11:35 AM
First episode had some funny lines...The pacing seemed off...Felt like it was a videotaped play....If that is what they are going for maybe they are on to something but not sure the flow works for me...I think it was more vulgar then it needed to be in that some Louie's and his wife's lines didn't seem like they would really be said by those characters...it didn't leave me saying "can't wait for next week"...but i'm going to watch regardless so i'll just hope that the show grows on me...most shows take time...

I downloaded/watched the first episode from tv.com.

I agree with the above comments, I did laugh a few times during the show.

The thing LL has going for it is the low production costs, compared to other shows such as the Sopranos.
I would guess one episode of the Sopranos costs more than a whole series of LL.

HBO should be willing to tweak the format over a few seasons.
A lot of long running sitcoms started off slowly and built as the characters developed.

IMHO what slowed the pace of the first episode is the need to explain the various characters and their situation.
(Louie/wife-poor, Norton-drug dealer ect ect)
Once this period is over I am interested to see what happens.

I think a sitcom like LL will always be compared to shows like Roseane.
(love it or hate it, it did have a long run)
HBO should give LL a shot to see where it goes.
Its not exactly a big financial risk on their part.

robinquivers
06-10-2006, 11:56 AM
I will be watching Sunday night. A lot of the great sitcoms started out slow. Like Op said yesterday, the first episode of Seinfeld stunk, it really did, but that is probably the greatest sitcom ever in some people's opinions and the show is still funny today. I'm sure LL will be funny.

del griffith
06-10-2006, 01:22 PM
http://jam.canoe.ca/Television/2006/06/10/1624178.html


New HBO sitcom edgy with real people
By STEVE TILLEY - Toronto Sun
Calling HBO’s Lucky Louie “Roseanne with swear words and bare butts” isn’t fair, for a couple of reasons.

One, it might make you conjure up a mental image of pre-liposuction Roseanne’s enormous naked ass, and nobody deserves that. Not even Tom Arnold.

Two, Lucky Louie is more than just a blue-collar domestic sitcom with cussing. It’s … well, it’s a blue-collar domestic sitcom with cussing. But that alone is so unusual and refreshing, the series would be worth a look even if it wasn’t consistently funny. Which, happily, it is.

The brainchild of stand-up comic and Pootie Tang writer/director Louis C.K., Lucky Louie, is the kind of show that could only come from HBO. It premieres tomorrow at 10:30 p.m. on The Movie Network.

And perhaps it could only come at a time like this — when the U.S. cable powerhouse has bid farewell to Sex And The City and Six Feet Under, will soon send The Sopranos to sleep with the fishes, and hasn’t seen explosive ratings numbers on newer dramatic fare like Deadwood and Big Love. Necessity is the mother of invention, and innovation.

The three-camera, taped-in-front-of-a-studio-audience sitcom has become so deeply ingrained in our TV-viewing consciousness that it’s a complete shock the first time we hear Louie or his wife Kim (Pamela Adlon) drop an f-bomb, or see them vigorously going at it in bed. Toto, we’re not in Central Perk anymore.

What sets Lucky Louie further apart from the sitcom horde is that Louie and Kim don’t always kiss and make up, the supporting characters are outrageously flawed (Louie’s best friend is a mouthy pot dealer) and the humour has the kind of edgy relevance that rarely is found in television comedy.

But once you get past TV characters talking like real people in the real world, Lucky Louie is surprisingly traditional at its core, from its modest sets to its classic set-ups. Alice Kramden never caught Ralph masturbating in the closet to a photo of Jessica Simpson, true, but there’s a definite lineage of the working man’s struggle here.

For example, tomorrow night’s premiere episode opens with Louie and his four-year-old daughter (Kelly Gould) in a typical child-and-parent back-and-forth, in which the kid responds to everything her dad says with, “Why?”

After several hilarious turns, Louie finally takes his daughter’s relentless line of questioning to the existential extreme: “Because God is dead and we’re alone.” And she’s satisfied.

Next week’s episode revolves almost entirely around orgasms, with Louie giving Kim her first climax in their seven years of marriage because he’s competing with the screaming neighbours down the hall.

(Adlon is probably best known as the voice of Bobby on King Of The Hill, so, for extra fun, try closing your eyes during the sex scene. If you think the mental image of Roseanne’s bum is freaky, try Bobby Hill moaning in ecstasy.)

Not every line is a zinger, of course, but Louis C.K.’s comic timing is finely honed, and the supporting cast is more than solid.

Lucky Louie could become The Sopranos of sitcoms: A show that takes the best elements of its network TV contemporaries, then turns them upside down through the freedom that cable offers. Wish them luck.

IBrokeMyLegDude
06-10-2006, 02:27 PM
Fuck the reviews. I just watched the show and it was very funny. It was everything I thought it was going to be: funy and crude.

Silera
06-10-2006, 02:39 PM
If Jim Norton wasn't on the show, I wouldn't have made a point of watching it. Wasn't bad, wasn't great. Louie and his wife seem very believable, the other characters not so much. The dialogue between Louie and his wife was very authentic and probably the best part of the first episode.

It's a good premise and hopefully future episodes will flesh out better and the supporting cast won't seem desperate to get to their punch lines.

Jim's contribution started great when Jim was being Jim. The whole monologue about women ruling the world wasn't funny and seemed forced. Not because of his acting but because it was out of place, like someone thought the monologue was funny and they tried to fit it into a scene. Maybe if they were at a bar or drinking it would've worked but over morning coffee just didn't go over for me.

All in all, if I weren't a fan of Jim's I'd probably watch it again if I stumbled across it. Since he's on it, I'll make it a point to watch on Sundays and hope it delivers on its premise.

Tax Kuntz
06-10-2006, 04:46 PM
I want to see Jimmy hook up with Tina, the "couger" that was slapping the meat in the supermarket.

I like the lines written fo Louis CK's wife, she was really funny imo. The black family bit was great, racism always funny.

Jimmy made me chuckle, very angry little fellow.

***
I give it 3 out of 4 stars.

Angelfuck
06-10-2006, 05:25 PM
I got sent a pilot to review last year for a really crappy sitcom thats actually on tv right now. The entire episode had the same ackward pacing that the first few moments of the pilot of lucky louie, on tv now the show has a much more natural feel but it still sucks.
If I reviewed lucky louie before it came out I wouldnt know what to say, its a pilot and its a little too obvious its on a soundstage (much like the street in 'grounded for life')But based on the concept alone I have to say Jimmy or not Id watch this show. The storyline was good and the jokes were actually really funny, which is more than I can say for 99% of sitcoms.
Some of the jokes were a little too funny for normal conversation which is why I think it didnt seem so natural. The only part I was unsure of was the part with Jimmy, since his character is a little over the top and I wasnt sure what to expect but I definitely like where theyre taking it. Ive seen that other guy in a few places, Im not good with names but I think hes a great choice.
I think Im gonna have to get used to the wifes character, Im not sure where they are going with her but she seems a little coarse, for lack of a better word, her lines more than anyones seem the least natural, the actress didnt seem to fit, I wouldve expect an actress more along the lines of the one in 'king of queens'.
Now Im just being nitpicky. When I accidentally saw the first few minutes of the first episode of '24' I thought, 'hey this looks kinda cool, I like what they're doing with the cameras' but I still thought the characters were a little iffy, 2nd episode I was hooked.
All in all my expectations for lucky louie were a little high and a little low at the same time, but I figured being louis ck's show AND featuring Jim Norton it couldnt be all bad and I was pleasantly surprised. Now Im wondering how many crappy news sitcoms those reviewers liked that will be helping to dumb down our society come next fall.

HumpX
06-10-2006, 06:25 PM
Why is it I can watch any movie at Gamespot.com but I when I go to TV.com to watch the show it has sound but no picture? Both sites are owned by CNET and use the exact same formats right down to the page design.

roche
06-10-2006, 07:56 PM
Why is it I can watch any movie at Gamespot.com but I when I go to TV.com to watch the show it has sound but no picture? Both sites are owned by CNET and use the exact same formats right down to the page design.

I had a the same problem. Let me guess, you are trying to use IE? Try Firefox. Once I did I was able to watch it just fine.

HumpX
06-10-2006, 08:00 PM
I had a the same problem. Let me guess, you are trying to use IE? Try Firefox. Once I did I was able to watch it just fine.

Just the opposite, I use FF and when it didn't work I tried IE....nada. I must be missing some kind of codec but I can't seem to figure out which one.

iNFaMousToM
06-10-2006, 08:16 PM
ewww Panned.

RMPGP
06-10-2006, 09:31 PM
I think a problem might be that people, critics, etc, might have such high expectations of HBO shows that anything that doesn't blow them away will be a letdown.

One thing this show really has going for it is it's cheap to make. HBO has shown that it is impatient over expensive shows with hardcore fanbases like Deadwood and Carnivale, but will allow cheaper made shows to stick around longer. Since the set is already built in this case, the only expenses are the staff and cast.

Even if this show does mildly well, and I believe it will, it will be around for 3-4 years minimum. In this time, Jimmy should get enough exposure to take his career to the next level and get an even bigger gig next time around.

danny666
06-10-2006, 10:37 PM
Why is it I can watch any movie at Gamespot.com but I when I go to TV.com to watch the show it has sound but no picture? Both sites are owned by CNET and use the exact same formats right down to the page design.

I remember CNET was trying to buy television.com but that guy wanted to much money. That guy was in the news saying how much he was going to sell it for the domain name. First it was 50K, then CNET wanted it for 100K. But then CNET bought tv.com for much less circa 1998.

Anyway about the first episode of Lucky Louie. I liked it. I think the pilot was filmed months earlier than the other show, or maybe the retaped it when HBO ok'd the episodes. So it could look a little like a play since they may have been very familar with that script.

Most sitcoms take a while to get used to. Sometimes it take until the end of the season. If the characters and show take off you'll be aching more episodes. And just imagine having a top quality sitcom airing in the summer. People are hungry for new programming in the Summer. Crappy shows like "Freddy" would get an audience if they aired new episodes at that time. But imagine if LL becomes one of the elite sitcoms in the class of Raymond or Friends? Jimmy is so gone if this show is successful. I can see why some Jimmy fans would want it to fail.

On the negative side that wacky neighbor seems very cliche. The wacky neighbor needs to die(or get sent to prison for trying to molest the daughter) and have Rich move into his apartment so Jimmy gets to be the wacky neighbor. Then Jimmy gets a network spin-off that tapes in New York.

NoFilterPaul
06-10-2006, 11:44 PM
I just watched the DVD version, and it has a different title sequence than the tv.com one.

I also has a lot smoother editing from what I can see... so watch the DVD, or on HBO... the tv.com doesn't do it justice

RMPGP
06-11-2006, 12:34 AM
Then Jimmy gets a network spin-off that tapes in New York.

Now you are talking. Jimmy could create an incredible show based on his life. In that case, a non-sitcom format would probably work better. Maybe more of a curb your enthusiasm style but more scripting.

boardsofcanada
06-12-2006, 12:21 AM
I love how on imdb.com it says that jimmy may not make it for season 2 because of his fight with AIDS LOL :icon_lol:

Shitdeek
06-12-2006, 12:27 AM
The show stinks. It's shot poorly, the sound is awful and worst of all it's not that funny.

kremss
06-12-2006, 03:39 PM
I went in watching it with the idea, that it wouldn't be that funny but since jimmy was on I would watch.

I laughed pretty much the whole way through. The wife is hot, the scene with her and the other chick in the grocery store was great. Jimmy's scene was ok, the kid looking at him like he wanted to suck his cock was a bit weird, until he said he was going to sell him weed.

I would give the first episode a 7 out of 10. I will keep watching.

But it's no friends.

novalia
06-12-2006, 04:16 PM
i loved it.. hbo fucked up my tivo a little by starting it like 10 seconds too soon... yes the sound was all over the place but i would rate it a 10 for content..

25133WhooOoAH
06-12-2006, 04:21 PM
jjimmys lines killed the rest had it moments

everything that louie ck said was hilarious jimmy was there for like 5 minutes , he was pretty good, but he's not the main focus, i personally think that louie c.k is the better comedian anyway, im not that big of a fan of jimmys stand up like all of you, everythign is dirty and i get sick of that

Farm Flufer
06-12-2006, 04:30 PM
I liked it. Made me laugh a few times.
I give it 3 1/2 stars.

bill333
06-12-2006, 04:35 PM
Saw it and laughed my ass off. It's going to take a bit for to smooth out but pretty damn good for the first show. I love Louis C.K.' s stand up and Jimmy seems just as angry/creepy as his stand up as well.
Hope Jimmy's role gets expanded more.
Good for you lil' fella :clap:

pinheadrbc
06-12-2006, 04:37 PM
at least the critics loved it . . .
hopefully the next few episodes are better, wouldn't want jimmy to be embarrassed if this thing bombs

Schwapp
06-12-2006, 07:19 PM
Quoted for truth. The little kid is such a fuckin mush-mouth, that I just didn't give a fuck what she was saying.

Yeah...that's one thing that took away from the overall enjoyment: the kid can't act worth shit. Her turn towards mommy to cry about the black Barbie was amazingly bad.

The show was pretty good. There were about 5 really good laughs. The rest was fairly enjoyable stuff. A good sitcom isn't going to hit you with machine gun laughs...especially with the topics they're hitting. Jimmy's lil history bit was funny in a "I'm not actually laughing, but just kind of enjoying it" way. But the comment about Louie's wife's vag...the Barbie saga...the masturbation closet...the "why" speech...and another scene or two...pretty funny stuff.

I've rated it an 8 on sites, to be honest. I've been tempted to go overboard with a 10 just to counteract the assholes out there...but I rather keep it honest. They got some potential to rate a 10 at some point during the season, though.

Schwapp
06-12-2006, 07:43 PM
The following has to be a fan who ranked this episode a 1 on TV.com (http://www.tv.com/lucky-louie/show/22532/reviews.html?review_id=213904):

"BenSparks
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1.0
Abysmal
"Unoriginal"

This show lacks charisma. It is Vanilla Seinfeld without the funny. Louis C.K. frankly is horrible as a lead actor. Jim Norton is not an actor, he always has his hands like a crippled child. The only decent part of the show is the child. naughty!

After watching this horrible attempt at a sitcom, HBO should be ashamed. I will be surprised if the show makes it to season #2, the time slot will get it an initial rating, but soon the quality viewership of \\\\\\\"Entourage\\\\\\\" will tune this borefest out.

I honestly think HBO has lost its edge. Nothing daring and this show is no exception. The cast is flawed, especially childish humor freak comic Jim Norton (not the football player), he is NOT an actor and shows it 100 percent, standing there with his hands looking like stones.

Only way to improve the show is to eliminate the \\\\\\\"neighbor\\\\\\\" played by Jim Norton and replace him with a female presence. Sadly HBO has pissed away another couple of million on a soon to be cancelled show."

jules
06-12-2006, 08:10 PM
i loved the show

ShesTooOld
06-12-2006, 08:33 PM
My review on tv.com

Sex in the City was awful for many reasons. Here's a sitcom with NO CANNED LAUGH TRACK. Wow a show that actually uses a live audience without fake laughs put in after the fact to tell the at home audience what the writers thought was funny.

I'm a fan of Louie and Jim Norton, I should say that first. That would not keep me from trashing the show if I didnt like it, though. While the show was not the best I have ever seen, but it did make me laugh really hard.

I see so many people mentioning that crap "Sex In the City", if you enjoyed that show, you wont like this. Period. You cannot find that **** funny and then laugh at real humor like you will find in Lucky Louie. Here's a test, in the opening scene of the pilot episode if you find the daughter's lines to be the unfunny punchline.... turn it off and shoot yourself in front of your family, you are a douche.

I love the fact that there is no canned laugh track added into this show. Nothing annoys me more while watching other comedies than the fake, added in laughs that are after jokes that just are not funny. For too long we've had to hear the writers stroke their own egos by padding the laughs of jokes that just stink.

The first episode is like all first episodes, getting to know the characters and getting an idea of how they all interact. There were some laughs, and some jokes that felt awkward.

I'm looking forward to next week.

Maynard K
06-12-2006, 08:52 PM
I thought Jimmy was amazing. He was fuckin' funny, and he acted like a seasoned veteran. Louis is a very good actor as well, but I felt like they over extended the shock factor. I'll watch every episode and i'm sure if it stays around it will grow some legs and even out a little, script wise and with the production. Because cursing all the time isn't always funny, and there are some funny minds on that show that need to expand.

Yea I realize it's only the pilot....

Good Luck Jimmy!

ChoppedLiver
06-12-2006, 09:14 PM
OK....Watched it.:clap: :clap: :clap:

Great writing, although they used a LOT of jokes all in one episode. Slow down.
Almost everyone looked stiff, but they'll loosen up. First episode nerves?


Looking forward to more! Give it time.:clap:

Niwot's Curse
06-12-2006, 09:15 PM
everyone here is such a homer....including o&a
if this show didn't have jimmy, they would have clips of it and goof on it. it's fucking terrible. jimmy is good in it, but the rest is completely unwatchable. i will give it a few more episodes b/c i'd like to see jimmy more, but if it doesn't get better, then there's no way i can waste my life like that....
the first scene said it all...that was mega-car crash worthy...prob. one of the cringiest, worst openings to a show EVER.

"wwwwhhhhyyy??!!!!"

Niwot's Curse
06-12-2006, 09:15 PM
OK....Watched it.:clap: :clap: :clap:

Great writing, although they used a LOT of jokes all in one episode. Slow down.
Almost everyone looked stiff, but they'll loosen up. First episode nerves?


Looking forward to more! Give it time.:clap:

2 jokes....that's all that there was

Angelfuck
06-12-2006, 09:33 PM
2 jokes....that's all that there was

please stop, we dont need to go over the jokes here, I can count 5 jokes in jimmys 8 min scene alone

ChoppedLiver
06-12-2006, 11:28 PM
2 jokes....that's all that there was


I disagree, sir.

There's lots more there than you think.
Lots of little bits that will [should] build.

ruggedo
06-13-2006, 12:48 AM
I got more then a few laughs out of it. I like the direction of the show too. The acting was more then a little stiff,but could be they were just trying to find their footing. Over all tho it was better then most of the stuff that passes for comedy on TV, and because of Jimmy I'll be watching all season. If I had to bet on it, I'd say the flow and timing will get better every week,and then the honesty of the comedy just might make it big.

WonkaVision
06-13-2006, 02:24 AM
Fianlly downloaded it and watched, thought it was allright....see the potential. Acting was awful, but Jimmy was actually suprisingly good....laughed my ass off at his lines. I think it will definitly find its rythm after a few episodes...Liked it more than I expected after reading all the negative reviews here. Lets see how it is after 3 more episodes...WE WANT MORE JIMMY!

zorro6204
06-13-2006, 02:38 AM
I just saw it on ***** and liked it a lot. I think the criticism of the bawdy subject matter by some of the critics was way off base, it was funny. Anyway, as far as these sitcom shows go it was fine, I laughed all the way through it and ended up sympathetic towards the main characters. I don't think Jimmy is all that vital to the show though, there's already one off-center philosopher friend to give Louie advice, and (gulp) he's funnier than Jimmy. Sorry. Anyway, I'll check it out again.

KevSlider
08-27-2006, 11:31 PM
Robert Bianco took a small shot at Lucky Louie again:

"HBO has the series finale Sunday of Deadwood (9 ET/PT), the season finale of Entourage (10 ET/PT) and what we can only hope is the last episode ever of Lucky Louie (10:30 ET/PT)."

Bianco can go fuck himself.