Anyone else watch beheadings like li'l Jimmy?

[AngryFetus]

I do.

I hate myself for it. That is the shit that my mind paints on the inside of my eyelids. I watch it, because I want to remember what our enemy is capable of.

I have seen too damn many of them, and im running out of tissues =-o...

(had to throw that last bit in...tissue time with Al-Zarqawi)

[RMPGP]

I do.

I hate myself for it. That is the shit that my mind paints on the inside of my eyelids. I watch it, because I want to remember what our enemy is capable of.

I have seen too damn many of them, and im running out of tissues =-o...

(had to throw that last bit in...tissue time with Al-Zarqawi)


nope.

is it true the newest one is one of the worst?

[Ren5150]

Watched em all, the new one had 3 Iraqi's, I believe. Very nice.

[B54]

I've seen most of them. Before I watched, I thought it was conducted a hara-kiri style. That is, the person being executed is on their knees and the person slashes them in a quick fashion.

However, the reality is that they are done with a maybe a 4"-12" knife. The worst part of the whole ordeal is the sound.

[nicco25]

Yes I have watched sum of the vids. Not all of them. I will never get those images out of my mind. It does stay with u. The pics got me worse I don't know why but I think it was they were possin the head on the body afterward.it really got me. Not many girls that I know can look at that stuff. But I want to know and see what they did.

[kloraferm]

That's one of those images that I just don't want in my mind. Having personally known two people that actually were decapitated (not war related), my imagination is quite enough for me.

[PeePs]

I actually downloaded one and then just never watched it and deleted it

[patbattlefield]

i watched 1 once and that was enough to sear that image into my mind forever.

[Hoo Hoo Howie]

I've watched them. It's brutal shit every time. The worst one I've ever seen was the Chechnyan soldier with his boot holding down a Russsian Soldier's head to the ground, and they just jam the knife into the side of his throat and cut forward and you hear the poor guy gurgling. It's probably the worst sound on earth and has got to be just awful to go through.

[assWhack]

I've seen most of them. Before I watched, I thought it was conducted a hara-kiri style. That is, the person being executed is on their knees and the person slashes them in a quick fashion.

However, the reality is that they are done with a maybe a 4"-12" knife. The worst part of the whole ordeal is the sound.

A 4"-12" knife! That is fucking insane. What fucking savages. I could never watch these, but what are they doing? Like chopping at the head multiple times, or sawing at it? Even with a 12" nice, I would doubt there is enough blade to go through a neck in one shot.

[PestCoast]

Yeah, I watch them for the same reason Jimmy does. Especially when I hear people complaining about Gtmo and I wonder why they care so much about enemy cobatants who are being held captive while they conveniently forget how brutally savage it was for Nick Berg's head to get sawed off slowly. News organizations didn't have trouble showing images of Abu Ghraib when US soldiers treated prisoners improperly, but they wouldn't show images of Nick Berg. These guys weren't even soldiers, they were just there.

Every bleeding-heart Berkeley student who wants to defend the terrorists should be forced to watch the videos and be asked the question, "are these really the people you want to defend?"

Very nice.

I hope I misunderstood what you meant by that.

[PestCoast]

Like chopping at the head multiple times, or sawing at it?

yes

[DoucheMeister]

I couldn't watch that shit either, but when people complain about the treatment of the prisoners, it still makes me cringe.

Like the 17 who are in lockdown in Ontario, after they broke up that terrorist operation. They are all in solitary, locked up 23 hours a day, lights always on, and woken up every 30 minutes to check on them. And the fucking lawyer says this is torture.....

Show the bastard lawyer the video and ask him again about torture.

[rndystvn]

I almost think its our duty to watch them. Its a reminder just what we have sent those brave kids over there to handle for us.

[robinquivers]

Kind of reminds of watching Faces of Death. Doesnt bother me at all.

[JewKidd]

I saw the Nick Berg one, and it was fucking brutal. The gurgling sound he was making trying to breathe. Then watching Al-Zarqawi trying to saw threw his spine where it meets the head was just fucking awful. First and last beheading i'll ever see.

[OandAForever]

Every bleeding-heart Berkeley student...

Following Ant's lead, I prefer the term: "bleeding-ass"...

[pinheadrbc]

i watched a bunch of those videos one time for perspective, and am satisfied with never seeing them again

[MetalSign]

Saw the Daniel Pearl one and I can never watch another.

[MilkmanDan]

Never. My temperment is too bad, worried if I see something like that I'll intentionally pick a argument with the next person that looks similar thats involved. Only ever saw the russian guy get his throat cut, and ... I dunno I dont need to see that shit again.

[25133WhooOoAH]

i watched one , i think it was nick berg and ill never watch another, that shit is horrible

[stinkbag]

I've watched them. It's brutal shit every time. The worst one I've ever seen was the Chechnyan soldier with his boot holding down a Russsian Soldier's head to the ground, and they just jam the knife into the side of his throat and cut forward and you hear the poor guy gurgling. It's probably the worst sound on earth and has got to be just awful to go through.
I have seen that exact one, and it came via e-mail (only like 3.5 megs) from a friend with past military experience. Subject line was: Don't get caught by chechnyan rebels. Pretty tame, right? I open it up and it was soul scarring. Can't get myself to watch another.

[Chin nuts]

I have seen that exact one, and it came via e-mail (only like 3.5 megs) from a friend with past military experience. Subject line was: Don't get caught by chechnyan rebels. Pretty tame, right? I open it up and it was soul scarring. Can't get myself to watch another.


I saw the same vid on Ogrish where they have a bunch of those type of vids. This one I think it was called Chechclear will stay with me for a long time. I still am drawn to these type of vids no matter how gruesome I have to watch. Animal torture is where I draw the line though. Go figure.

[25133WhooOoAH]

i've seen that one also

[stinkbag]

I saw the same vid on Ogrish where they have a bunch of those type of vids. This one I think it was called Chechclear will stay with me for a long time. I still am drawn to these type of vids no matter how gruesome I have to watch. Animal torture is where I draw the line though. Go figure.
can't believe you can still watch other similar vids. most of the posters in this thread are one and dones...No animals for me either.

[Chin nuts]

can't believe you can still watch other similar vids. most of the posters in this thread are one and dones...No animals for me either.


I had a brutal child hood raised in East New York Brooklyn(Think Good Fellas), lived in a funeral home untill I was 14. Believe me I've seen plenty worse.

[TankRizzo]

I've seen most of them. Before I watched, I thought it was conducted a hara-kiri style. That is, the person being executed is on their knees and the person slashes them in a quick fashion.

However, the reality is that they are done with a maybe a 4"-12" knife. The worst part of the whole ordeal is the sound.


exactly...the sound is horiffic. The worst one I've seen is the Chechen one that was going around (long before 9/11). There's just a boot on some guy's head, a scared shitless look on the guy's face and then the knife sawing through his throat w/ that unmistakable gurgling noise.

[Corky's Revenge]

There's absolutely no way I could watch any of these videos. I don't need to watch them to know what savages some people are. What my mind can conjure up when just hearing about them is enough for me.

[stinkbag]

There's absolutely no way I could watch any of these videos. I don't need to watch them to know what savages some people are. What my mind can conjure up when just hearing about them is enough for me.
that reaction you have is the human body's way of saying "this shit should happen." That's why they are a bunch of dirty savages and should be exterminated w/ lots of explosives.

[BravoSierra]

I watched one a while back. I believe it was the Nick Berg beheading. I'll never watch another one ever again. WAY too disturbing. But then I'll go to Ogrish.com and see some Columbian's guts spilling out on a road, I'm fine with it. Very strange.

[TheDrip]

I saw the Nick Berg one......one and done for me. I can't count the amount of times I had to turn away.

Oddly enough, all of the 'reality tv' lovers I know thought I was a horrible person for watching it. I told them that it was true reality tv, it was a fucking event that actually happened, and one that will be in the history books displaying the savagery that those people take pleasure in. Humanity at it's worst. Gives you a whole new perspective for just how little the lives of the ones doing the beheadings are worth. They are the ones that, if captured, should never make it out of the hut their found in.

[watsonnostaw]

watch them?

I have them saved to my hard drive for ready access viewing

[Exanimate]

I watched the Berg one. The sound is what disturbs me the most. I saw the Chechnian one a few years ago as well. Disturbing stuff, and I really don't want to watch another one. The sounds do it to me, not so much the gore.

[rupert pupkin]

watch them?

I have them saved to my hard drive for ready access viewing

Peoples heads being cut off there body with the equivalent of a pocket knife is real funny ..........:icon_roll

[Longhorn1186]

I agree...the sound is the worst part. Just makes you squirm

[WOWmagnet]

A 4"-12" knife! That is fucking insane. What fucking savages. I could never watch these, but what are they doing? Like chopping at the head multiple times, or sawing at it? Even with a 12" nice, I would doubt there is enough blade to go through a neck in one shot.


They saw through your neck like cutting through a salami. It takes most people 30-45 seconds to even pass out, screaming for their life the whole time.

It's the sound that stays with you (at least me).

[WOWmagnet]

I had a brutal child hood raised in East New York Brooklyn(Think Good Fellas), lived in a funeral home untill I was 14. Believe me I've seen plenty worse.

No you haven't.

[Longhorn1186]

Is there a site that has them? They are hard to find...right?

[TankRizzo]

Is there a site that has them? They are hard to find...right?


ogrish.com

[Longhorn1186]

Thanks

[Blaster]

I've watched them. It's brutal shit every time. The worst one I've ever seen was the Chechnyan soldier with his boot holding down a Russsian Soldier's head to the ground, and they just jam the knife into the side of his throat and cut forward and you hear the poor guy gurgling. It's probably the worst sound on earth and has got to be just awful to go through.

^^ that was the first one I've ever seen. I guess I'm a morbid fuck. I have downloaded all of them and have seen all of them. I'm not quite sure why I still have them but I do.

[Shane1V]

I've watched them. It's brutal shit every time. The worst one I've ever seen was the Chechnyan soldier with his boot holding down a Russsian Soldier's head to the ground, and they just jam the knife into the side of his throat and cut forward and you hear the poor guy gurgling. It's probably the worst sound on earth and has got to be just awful to go through.

That is exactly the one I watched too. I stopped it before it was done. Just brutal. Anyone that can do that to someone for just political/religious diffrences... just savages.

[Ballbuster1]

Never saw one and never will. Fucking savages.

[B54]

I've watched them. It's brutal shit every time. The worst one I've ever seen was the Chechnyan soldier with his boot holding down a Russsian Soldier's head to the ground, and they just jam the knife into the side of his throat and cut forward and you hear the poor guy gurgling. It's probably the worst sound on earth and has got to be just awful to go through.

The Chechnyans are the biggest pussies on Earth. They grab individual Russian soldiers on their leaves and kill them. Fuck them. When I was in Russia last summer, every Chechyan I saw in Moscow I spit on, just like everyone else does. They are dispicable to even look at. They torture kids and the elderly they capture. Fucking pussies. They are all commited terrorists against Russia. If I ever came in contact with one that pissed me off to a certain limit, I would seriously consider killing him, just as any good Russian should.

[Dr Midnight]

Never saw one, never will, can't handle it.

[Chin nuts]

No you haven't.


Well yeah...really.:action-sm

[WonkaVision]

Never seen any of them, heard the audio of Nick Berg on the radio, didn't want to see the vid. Seen lots of Pics, but not interested in watching the videos. I can't imagine if your a family member of the beheaded....having the option to see the video of your son being sawed off?

If you knew the person who got beheaded, would you watch the video?

[Hardcore Pride]

I watched Nick Berg's beheading. At first I regretted it. But then I realized that everyone should see it because it happens, and we should be reminded what the soldiers are up against.

[Shaggz]

I watched the Nick Berg video as well.
If I could go back and NOT watch it, I would.
I can't handle that shit. I was once into all the gruesome and morbid pics and vids, but not anymore.

[Hardcore Pride]

I watched the Nick Berg video as well.
If I could go back and NOT watch it, I would.
I can't handle that shit. I was once into all the gruesome and morbid pics and vids, but not anymore.

I feel you. It wasnt so much the gore that I needed to see. I think it was more of a reality check. Ya dig?

[tstlkevanilla]

hell no.. I can't stand human suffering..

[B54]

Here is a great article on these videos.

Beheading videos fascinate public
LONDON SUNDAY TELEGRAPH

Dozens of ghoulish women used to knit while watching the executions of the French Revolution in the 18th century. Now millions of their latter-day counterparts log on to the Internet to download the beheadings of foreign hostages in Iraq and elsewhere.

Web sites devoted to executions are becoming the most accessed on the Internet. The images they show are not staged or digitally enhanced. The videos show real people being beheaded by al Qaeda-linked terrorists in Iraq and elsewhere.

"It's the thrill of quasi-participation, I suppose," said "John," one of the self-described addicts of execution sites. "This is no horror movie. If it is titillation I feel, then it is because this is happening to a real person. The fear is real, the brutality is real, the blood is real, it is all real. And I am watching it unfold as it happened." He says he is not breaking any law, but acknowledges that his passion might be construed as morally repugnant. "That is why I don't talk to friends or family about it," he says. "My wife shuddered simply at the sight of [British hostage] Kenneth Bigley in his orange jumpsuit, caged and haggard. She would be horrified if she knew I watched his final moments." Mr. Bigley was kidnapped along with two American colleagues from their Baghdad home on Sept. 16. The Americans — Eugene Armstrong and Jack Hensley — were beheaded within a few days, and Mr. Bigley's killing was announced Oct. 9. John says he has watched Mr. Bigley's execution at least a half-dozen times and calls it one of his favorites because of "the unexpected suddenness of it." The man who owns the Web site, Ogrish.com, says in an e-mail exchange that he is merely providing members of the public with what they have proved they want.

"I personally feel that everyone has a right to see the uncensored truth if they choose." Ogrish says that on an average day, his site has about 300,000 visitors. The number grows to 750,000 during beheadings. To date, more than 2 million people have downloaded the video of Mr. Bigley's beheading. More than 10 million have watched people jumping off New York's World Trade Center on September 11, 2001, and the beheading of American Nicholas Berg. Seventy-five percent of visitors to the site are men, and 65 percent log on from the United States, Ogrish says. The sources for his material vary from the press, retired police officers and medics, he says. "We also trawl the Islamic Web sites around the clock." Two years ago, after Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl was beheaded in Pakistan, his parents spoke of the anguish that the thought of a video of their son's death caused them. "We could never, ever watch our beloved son's murder," Judea Pearl, Mr. Pearl's father, told the Sunday Telegraph. "What sort of depraved person would want to?" Ogrish says every human being "has some kind of morbid curiosity hidden within them" and that some "merely watch the video images for shock value." Ogrish says children can gain access to the gruesome images on his Web site, but that the responsibility to protect them lies with parents. "Parents should realize that the Internet contains dark corners. It's like letting their child walk unsupervised through Amsterdam or New York," he says. The danger was starkly illustrated last week in the playground of an East London primary school. One teacher saw a boy of 10 playing with a toy saber and realized he was re-enacting a beheading with another child. "When I questioned him, he said: 'My dad watches all the beheadings on the Internet ... then I call them up, too. They're real aren't they, not pretend?' "

Where are these rooms? These unfurnished, grey places decorated quickly with a flag and then abandoned….these places where films are made. The prisoners sit cross-legged in orange Guantanamo garb in front of four or five men, all in black, one of whom reads aloud in Arabic. The quality of the picture is bad, fuzzy, and has a raw feel to it that makes everything you see on regular TV look lovingly made, seasoned and wrapped in cellophane. This footage is raw. These videos are snuff films. The people who make them know how the Internet has invaded nearly every Western middle-class home and they want us to see the world through an open wound, just like they do. The seeds of modern terrorism, with its laser-guided cruelty and explosive spectaculars, were sown during the Reagan and Bush presidencies, when the US began to build a military presence in the Middle East and to support Israel decisively with her financial and political clout. Gulf War 1 was never a big deal to the formative al-Qaeda; it was the continued American military presence in Saudi Arabia afterwards, and the superpower’s ties to the House of Saud, which deported bin Laden in 1994. It was the US desecration of Muslim Holy Lands and her commercial invasion of the world during the branding 80’s that sat poorly with a virulent and dark strain of Islamic belief. For bin Laden and his followers the Americans are Crusaders and Zionists, installing or supporting regimes with no interest in enforcing Shari’a law. This is why the supposed links between bin Laden and Saddam Hussein simply do not ring true. Although it is heavily rumoured that at some point they met face-to-face, Saddam was comparatively secular, a power-addicted tyrant who has only recently become totally devoted to Islam in American captivity. It is also ironic that there is now a very real link between Iraq and terrorism as a result of the 2003 invasion. Finally, bin Laden’s ordering of the attacks on the World Trade Centre was a considered tactical move designed to provoke US attacks on Muslim countries in an attempt to unite the umma in hatred of the Zionists and Crusaders. If bin Laden and Saddam Hussein were such good friends, why is bin Laden nowhere to be seen and Hussein the sacrificial lamb in US custody? The current rash of snuff videos on the Net is designed to cause fear in Western populations and to put internal pressure on governments by placing them in insoluble situations. To bow to the demands of the terrorists is undoubtedly to encourage more terrorism, but the alternative – the public beheading of their citizens – is almost as unpalatable for Western governments. Even down to the details this new campaign has been fiendishly clever. The terrorists realise that Westerners are growing immune to massacres and explosions. They have the power to frighten, but a diminished ability to shock. This is the reason for the distressingly personal practice of filming individual deaths. Also, those responsible are well aware of the way the media works. The British hostages have tended to have had

prolonged stays of execution because of the salacity and righteousness of the British tabloid press. There was more mileage to be had from Ken Bigley than an American hostage, and a great deal of potential damage to be done to Blair. The symbolic and punitive aspect of the videos is a call to arms for anyone aggrieved at the neglect of Shari’a law. The slaughter of infidels is a ritualised act that has been copied in the hostage videos right down the wiping clean of the knife on the clothes of the victim. It is an assertion of fundamentalist ideals and a territorial act exacted upon debauched invaders. It is also a way of individualising the issue of responsibility and morality. It is a message that says that the individual alone makes the choice to enter the Gulf and walk upon the peninsular, and the individual who shall be judged by God. What we see as the repellent immorality of these videos is not an issue for those who make them, or for bin Laden himself. These deaths for them are a drop in the ocean against the civilians killed in American military campaigns. They are serving the greater good by destabilising Western governments and promoting the long-term possibility of a ‘properly’ Islamist uprising in the region. Committing these murders is spiritually acceptable for them because they are doing away with infidels and, in their eyes, obeying the Prophet. This is not to rule out entirely motives such as revenge or genuine sadism, but does serve to frame these outrages in a way that can be understood and digested. As for bin Laden and The War On Terror, who is winning? At the moment it is undoubtedly al-Qaeda. The Middle East is destabilised and bin Laden enjoys popular support from Africa to Pakistan. Most of the world sees the invasion of Iraq as a miserable and unjustified failure and the country as incomparably more dangerous as a result. The Madrid bombings led to a change in government in Spain and the Iraq War has deeply damaged Tony Blair’s leadership. Bush has made himself, through his reactions to 9-11, into a demon and a deeply unpopular diplomat. Bin Laden is still at large, al-Qaeda have been gifted with invaluable recruitment propaganda, and the organisation’s leader is such a household name that when he releases a new video it instantly changes the agenda of US electoral debate. The election, as I write, is tomorrow. Just as bin Laden predicted, rather than fostering a persuasive counter-ideology to that of al-Qaeda and supporting it with benevolent action, the US has sought to enforce some kind of structure of peace on the region by hard-selling and bombing democracy into it. They are trying to make a tent using only rope and nails. And the biggest danger of the situation is bin Laden’s becoming a magical figure, a powerful prophet unable to evade even the world’s biggest superpower with all of its bombs, guns and spy tools. To employ Christian mythology, his taped messages are like the appearance of a dark angel addressing and guiding his followers. He exists in an indefinite realm, only pulling open the shutters and appearing through the camera lens when it suits him and then disappearing again. He is more than an ideologue. He is a shrewd tactician, a personality and a (anti-) brand for anarchy. 9-11 and the Madrid bombings are adverts or trailers for his mission and for things to come. But is he an anarchist? The US and UK weakened the UN to pursue a war on Iraq, whereas bin Laden wants to set up a system of Islamist governments rather than let chaos reign for good. He wants to re-order the world and undermine what he sees as a superpower out of control. Whether you agree with him or not, he is not trying to wreak havoc for sick thrills or to destroy civilisation, and it is of vital importance that America’s politics and military policy finally and openly acknowledge the motivations and origins of its enemy.

[Mack's Leg]

I made the mistake of watching the Berg video. That was the most disturbing thing I've ever seen. Would NOT do that again.

[Dick Upinya]

The beheading vidoes are horrible, im not sure why i watched a few, but i regret watching when its over. Id have to say the Eugene Armstrong video was the worst for me. Just the thought makes me cringe.

[whoisisthis]

I've watched them. It's brutal shit every time. The worst one I've ever seen was the Chechnyan soldier with his boot holding down a Russsian Soldier's head to the ground, and they just jam the knife into the side of his throat and cut forward and you hear the poor guy gurgling. It's probably the worst sound on earth and has got to be just awful to go through.

holy shit! This exact clip you're talking about is the one that fucked me up


I hate that I'm thinking about it right now

[BigFeet]

I've seen a few.

[spankz]

I saw the Nick Berg one and it haunted me for days. The thing that got me more than the video was the sounds of these cowards as they "chant" loudly to cover up the victims screams.

I'm actually glad I saw it because, like many of you, it reminds me what savages we are fighting. I actually recommend people watch at least one.