Music is dead

[boardsofcanada]

Anyone else think that there is almost no good new music?...I'm 18 and the only new music I like is TOOL and Wolfmother (a little). Even TOOL's new album sounded a lot like undertow and ther was a few songs that gave me the douche chills.Wolfmother is the biggest zeppelin/sabbath/deep purple rip off ever. It scares me to know that Grandpa Bruce Springsteen is still churning out some of the best music out there.

Most new music is just abominable pop punk/emo horse shit.
Rap has turned into a joke

Not since the early 90's have there been bands with consistenly great albums. Into the 2000's there has been no legends like Zeppelin, The Who, Sabbath, Metallica, Pink Floyd, Springsteen,etc.

What the fuck has happened?

[25133WhooOoAH]

maybe you should look a lil harder? you ever heard of THE UNDERGROUND? music has never went away theres pretty much 100s of amazing albums every year in Metal, rock, punk so you just gotta look buddy. Theres pretty much Amazing bands everywhere you just gotta look.

[25133WhooOoAH]

yeah maybe you should LOOK! WOW I sound like a tool in my first post "You just gotta look" i used twice hehe im a stinker.

[Exanimate]

I have to agree with 25122WhooOoAH (fuck your name sucks to type). Stop trying to take the music that is being fed to you. Dig a little bit. There are bands out there turning out amazing stuff. This just isn't true in metal either. There is an underground for about every genre. R&B, Rap, Country, Jazz, Blues, etc...

[sknight]

Wow, where was this guy for the last two months? Clue train might not have past his stop.

I was there a few years ago. In fact, I stopped listening to music altogether. Then by chance a few things fell into place and I saw there was music being made that was better than anything I was listening to and being pushed by the mtv media. The good music was there all along.

[Puddle O AIDs]

While i agree the underground is still pumping out great shit every year i need to say what i do: Fuc new music, i just stick to what i like, which hapens to be mostly in the past. You don't need to have current music unless you just want to seem cool

[sknight]

There is no good music in the American mainstream, period.

[abudabit]

maybe you should look a lil harder? you ever heard of THE UNDERGROUND? music has never went away theres pretty much 100s of amazing albums every year in Metal, rock, punk so you just gotta look buddy. Theres pretty much Amazing bands everywhere you just gotta look.

Punk, metal, so much fucking recycled garbage.

But who needs new music? Sure there is great new music coming out, but why go through the trouble of finding it? Most of the good music written in the past 100 years has survived the test of time, it's already found. Very convenient.

The only reason to listen to new music is to go to shows, and if you drink when you go to shows you'll probably like the music whether it is shit or not. Hell, I even love blues live if I'm drinking, and blues sucks.

[25133WhooOoAH]

yeah but dude theres still tuns of great metal bands original too, listen to MERCENARY

[25133WhooOoAH]

i can name at least 20 metal bands(newer) that blow alot of old shit out of the water. check out these new bands

Wintersun
Disillusion
Into Eternity
Mercenary
Insomnium

[thelord68]

Anyone else think that there is almost no good new music?...I'm 18 ....

...Into the 2000's there has been no legends like Zeppelin, The Who, Sabbath, Metallica, Pink Floyd, Springsteen,etc.

What the fuck has happened?

You're 18, that's what happened. Like everyone before you for the last 40+ years who wants something new, you either aren't looking in the right places or need to learn an instrument and make it yourself.

Keep in mind that the average band spends 10 years slogging it out in clubs and bars and indy labels before they get a shot at a major deal. Then, it's still a crap shoot. I can tell you of a dozen bands I either worked with or were friendly with that got signed, recorded their albums and then waited and waited and waited, sometimes for years, until they got a call telling them that the album wasn't going to be released and they were being dropped.

So what is the right place? It's not iTunes or MTV or anything associated with a major label. Don't be afraid to check out local bands if you can. Find a college radio station to listen to. Check out the local music and/or alternative paper (also online). For the NY/NJ suburbs it is The Aquarian (had been East Coast Rocker for many years). In Boston, its the Phoenix. You also have the internet, which no previous generation has had. You have access to the local and indepent scene from everyplace on the planet, not just your backyard. Use it.

[Exanimate]

You're 18, that's what happened. Like everyone before you for the last 40+ years who wants something new, you either aren't looking in the right places or need to learn an instrument and make it yourself.

Keep in mind that the average band spends 10 years slogging it out in clubs and bars and indy labels before they get a shot at a major deal. Then, it's still a crap shoot. I can tell you of a dozen bands I either worked with or were friendly with that got signed, recorded their albums and then waited and waited and waited, sometimes for years, until they got a call telling them that the album wasn't going to be released and they were being dropped.

So what is the right place? It's not iTunes or MTV or anything associated with a major label. Don't be afraid to check out local bands if you can. Find a college radio station to listen to. Check out the local music and/or alternative paper (also online). For the NY/NJ suburbs it is The Aquarian (had been East Coast Rocker for many years). In Boston, its the Phoenix. You also have the internet, which no previous generation has had. You have access to the local and indepent scene from everyplace on the planet, not just your backyard. Use it.

What a great post. I wish that we had a resource like the internet back in the 80's, but I wouldn't trade the fun of the tape trading days for anything.

[Wrecktum]

There is no good music any more it all sucks i kinda like Gnarles barkly but i think it was over hyped i mainly listin to my Jimmy Hendrix, Radiohead,At the drive in and the mars volta and a few other bands but anything that gets played on the radio 100 times a day is rubbish

[Plunkies]

Most popular music sucks? Really? Welcome to 1998 you douche. You're on the internet, go find something you like.

[thelord68]

What a great post. I wish that we had a resource like the internet back in the 80's, but I wouldn't trade the fun of the tape trading days for anything.

I heard Metallica for the first time because my friend's cousin sent him a tape of Kill Em All. Another resource were those companies that sold imports off of a photocopied list. Sometimes you would just pick something at random and get lucky.

I do wish that the internet was more of a factor when I was still actively managing and promoting bands in the early to mid-90s. I used email and had some early websites, but the mp3 format didn't exist yet (not until around 1997), so there was a limit to how I could let people hear even a sample of the music.

Another good source were independant record stores. I went to college in Boston and used to comb places like Newbury Comics and Rocket Records out in Saugus. If you can find a place like this still around, it's a good source because they've stayed in business for so long because they carry the stuff you won't find at Tower, Virgin, or FYE.

[boardsofcanada]

I get all my music recomendations from allmusic.com, which basicaly always leads me to older shit. Great site, it even lists the moods for an album, u click that mood and it lists all the albums that are that, same thing with genres.

The only problem is it is probably the slowest site i've ever seen

[realmenhatelife]

popular music is dead, youre just not trying hard enough. its hard to find the gems in the ocean of shit that comes out.

[Death Metal Moe]

maybe you should look a lil harder? you ever heard of THE UNDERGROUND? music has never went away theres pretty much 100s of amazing albums every year in Metal, rock, punk so you just gotta look buddy. Theres pretty much Amazing bands everywhere you just gotta look.

Thank you. Glad someone knows bands like mine are out there trying to write original music, create a new sound and get noticed.

If you don't like Metal, go to a show in the genre you're interested in. Take a chance, meet some people and check someone's distro while you're there for new CDs.

Hell, go search around MySpace a little too.

[kevtv]

a lot of good points this post...its too bad that a lot of people (this is not targeted to anyone in this post) give up on music (or movies, or other forms of entertainment) because there is nothing good presented to them. if there's something you like, dig a little deeper. even food - you can order the same thing at the same restaurant because it's what you like, but look at all the stuff you're missing out on casue you don't try it - it's right there on the menu.

most music that gets "popular" these days is made by entertainers, not artists. most musicians making the huge money today don't do it for art, or gave up on true artistic statements years ago. this isn't me being against musicians making money, far from it, but i feel that you find the most artistic integrity and drive in the artists and bands who are not all over the radio. supporting some moving but somewhat obscure music is far more rewarding than shilling money over to some label that puts out ashlee simpson because 12 year olds with allowances will scarf it up. stuff like that is like an audio barbie, and is fucking useless. as someone else said, most genres of music have an underground, cause every band or artist has to come from somewhere.

kev

[NortonsGravyLeg]

Thank you. Glad someone knows bands like mine are out there trying to write original music, create a new sound and get noticed.

If you don't like Metal, go to a show in the genre you're interested in. Take a chance, meet some people and check someone's distro while you're there for new CDs.

Hell, go search around MySpace a little too.

Your band sounds great. I have had the begining of that song that RnF played in my head pretty much ever since.

Maybe you should try listening to some other stuff for a while. I got burnt out on the metal scene a few years ago too. I started listening to a lot of drum and bass, jungle and hardcore/gabber. I know most people can't stand that shit and maybe that's not your answer, but it at least changing genre gave me a broader spectrum of music. Not to mention like everyone else has said to try to go for the more underground shit too. There are always diamonds in the rough playing some shitty club for the past 4 years.

[Legend of Snuka]

You're 18, that's what happened. Like everyone before you for the last 40+ years who wants something new, you either aren't looking in the right places or need to learn an instrument and make it yourself.

Keep in mind that the average band spends 10 years slogging it out in clubs and bars and indy labels before they get a shot at a major deal. Then, it's still a crap shoot. I can tell you of a dozen bands I either worked with or were friendly with that got signed, recorded their albums and then waited and waited and waited, sometimes for years, until they got a call telling them that the album wasn't going to be released and they were being dropped.

So what is the right place? It's not iTunes or MTV or anything associated with a major label. Don't be afraid to check out local bands if you can. Find a college radio station to listen to. Check out the local music and/or alternative paper (also online). For the NY/NJ suburbs it is The Aquarian (had been East Coast Rocker for many years). In Boston, its the Phoenix. You also have the internet, which no previous generation has had. You have access to the local and indepent scene from everyplace on the planet, not just your backyard. Use it.


Great post...... Mainstream music is pretty bad right now but the underground is alive and well.... Being in a band myself and in the NYC scene, there are a ton of great bands out there (and alot of shitty ones too) Take NYC for example, you'll find a great band you've never heard of every night of the week....Myspace also has a ton of great stuff.....

Metal has a great underground. And I'm not really into metal but there is some cool stuff going on.....Take NY for instance, you got Bronx Underground, Yonkers Underground etc.... A huge scene that most people aren't aware of...

While you're discovering new music, check out my band www.myspace.com/tiedforlast :icon_mrgr

[Sunsetspawn]

First I need to tool on Death Metal Moe for not making it more obvious that he's in a death metal band. Maybe I'm an oblivious idiot. Either way, I JUST heard Unhallowed, and I like it.

And as for music being dead, now that's just absolute nonsense. On a slow week I'll at least find one band or artist I like, but it won't have anything to do with the radio, mtv, or a commercial website. Eventually you can become like me, completely wrapped up in your own music and oblivious to everything else. I was recently played some "pop" music by my... well, it doesn't matter who, but the point is, I totally didn't recognize it. It felt great. Even just two years ago I would have recognized, yet despised, pop. I was all like, "what the fuck is this?" And she was all like, "it's razzle dazzle dee do, by dingy dingy doh honk." And I was all, "yeah, that's fantastic, now plug my ipod back in."

[Sunsetspawn]

Take NY for instance, you got Bronx Underground, Yonkers Underground etc.... A huge scene that most people aren't aware of...

Dude, you know the Blackthorn and the Lowdown are closed, right?

And Castle Heights too :icon_sad:, but that's in Queens

[Death Metal Moe]

Your band sounds great. I have had the begining of that song that RnF played in my head pretty much ever since.


Thanks a lot NortonsGravyLeg. Glad you liked it. It was a huge shot in the arm for us, and very cool of Ron and Fez to do.

[Death Metal Moe]

First I need to tool on Death Metal Moe for not making it more obvious that he's in a death metal band. Maybe I'm an oblivious idiot. Either way, I JUST heard Unhallowed, and I like it.


Not your fault actually. I neglected to put a link under my sig pic to our website until like a month or 2 ago. But glad you found us and liked it.

[Legend of Snuka]

Dude, you know the Blackthorn and the Lowdown are closed, right?

And Castle Heights too :icon_sad:, but that's in Queens

Yeah I heard about those places....There are a ton of places though in the area still having shows. I think really small venues...Both Bronx and yonkers underground have myspace sites....

CBGBs and Continental are also both closing pretty soon to live bands which totally blows. Give me an original band any nite over a crappy cover act..

[thelord68]

Not your fault actually. I neglected to put a link under my sig pic to our website until like a month or 2 ago. But glad you found us and liked it.

Checked out the tracks, I like "Solitude" and "Condemed to Crumble". Production seemed decent enough. I got burnt out in my past life on everything sounding like a wall of mud.

I would definitely recommend it to death metal fans.

[25133WhooOoAH]

theres albums out there, that will never get heard by people who dont try to find good shit, me and my friends pretty much find AMAZING pieces of music every freking year, weather it be other bands we havent checked out yet, new bands that are out, new albums from the classics....... its all out there. Metal isn't a mainstream genre of music, and it will never be , seriously ever since the 80s there have been 1000s of amazing albums from all diff types of bands, if you dont think so,, you dont know how to get into bands, or just simply dont want to. And for people sayign metal died in the 90s, ill list 100 albums which i think are Classics RIGHT FUCKING NOW! test me, 90s were probably the high point for metal cuz all different genres started to break out. Just cuz all the "CLASSIC" bands from the 80s started to change there sound, doesnt mean there weren't others perfecting. Look beyond Metallica, pantera, slayer, megadeth, anthrax, priest, sabbath, Maiden, and you will find that theres bands that are as good or even better then the list i made. I take it as an insult cuz music is Always strong, and i take time out of my day sometimes to look up good things and i accomplish that. and I know alot of people do. Take a band like Iced Earth there Better then alot of bands of the 80s and if they were partof it back then would be HUGE! IN Europe and greece there probably as big as MADONNA is here, And i bet half people in usa never even heard of them.
And for a Awesome Venue for music these days in nyc is BBKINGS

[25133WhooOoAH]

Now heres a list of bands to check out, for one thing im bored and im proving the thread starter wrong. : ) im a loser of course Also....heres a few Awesome Metal of the late 80s to Now, which alot of these bands have one or more albums considered classics in the music world

Borknager
Sentenced
Lost Horizon
Rhapsody
Nightwish
At the Gates
God Forbid
Imperanon
EDGUY/Avantasia
Dark funeral
Hypocrisy
Into the Moat
Dark Tranquillity
The Haunted
Cradle of Filth
Opeth
Insomnium
AMORPHIS
Immortal
A life once Lost
Testament/Dragonlord
King Diamond
Children of Bodom
Demons and WIzards
BLIND GUARDIAN
ICED EARTH
Wintersun
Callenish Circle
Mercenary
Darkest Hour
Disillusion
Devin Townsend Band/Strapping Young LAD
Dissection
Savatage/Trans Siberian ochestra
Cynic
Dimmu Borgir
Evergrey
SYMPHONY X
Atheist
Sonata Arctica
Arch Enemy
Nevermore
Darkane
Vehemence
lamb of god
norther
Darkthrone
INTO ETERNITY
arsis
necrophagist
Amon Amarth
Kreator
Kamelot
Finntroll
Death/control denied
Spiral Architect
Between the buried and me
Impaled Nazarene
Avenged Sevenfold
Cryptopsy
Strarovarius
Naglfar
Dream Theater
Scar Symmetry
Emperor
Persuader
Katatonia
Kataklysm
Dragonforce
In Flames
Soilwork
Hammerfall
Helloween
Gamma Ray
Nile
CARCASS
Exodus
Meshuggah
Enslaved
Fear Factory
i can go on for another hour i bet naming bands
hahahahahahahahahaha can you say i am bored?
i wont list punk or rock right now, leaveit to someone else

[Sunsetspawn]

Take a band like Iced Earth there Better then alot of bands of the 80s and if they were partof it back then would be HUGE! IN Europe and greece there probably as big as MADONNA is here, And i bet half people in usa never even heard of them.

Cannot resist.....





Could be a little more than that, gentlemen

[honky]

it's been said many times before, but it cannot be overstated:

LOCAL, LOCAL, LOCAL! the great bands are out there working the clubs and bars every night. they're flying way below the radar, but many of them are doing some innovative and refreshing music that would scare most mainstream consumers. from the nj local scene, i suggest you check out:

the hunchback
the ergs
mono/distorto (shameless self-promotion)
zigman bird
trio of madness
the blowrods
x-ray cat
hub sity stompers
steel-toe solution
cosmic brotherhood of ra (2004-2006)
como drive