Death Penalty for US Soldiers

[Schmed]

I don't get it, we kill the enemy and our boys get the death penalty. Some kid toucher kills a kid and he gets a comfy cell in a US jail, again, I don't get it...

Thank God Bush and Rumsfeld were not around during WWII.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,211899,00.html

[abudabit]

I don't get it, we kill the enemy and our boys get the death penalty. Some kid toucher kills a kid and he gets a comfy cell in a US jail, again, I don't get it...

First they weren't the enemy, they were a random family who one of the soldiers had a hard on for. Secondly, 'we' didn't kill them. 4 sociopaths who happened to be wearing US army uniforms killed them. And to prove 'we' didn't kill them, we will execute the sick fucks who killed the family and ***** the daughter. Good riddance to the scumbags.


Thank God Bush and Rumsfeld were not around during WWII.

I was unaware we won WWII by ****** young teen girls and killing thier unarmed families in cold blood. Didn't realize the fate of WWII hinged on that. So you're right, thank god we didn't have this silly no-**** and no intentional targeted killing of civilians policy during the big war.

[B54]

I don't get it, we kill the enemy and our boys get the death penalty. Some kid toucher kills a kid and he gets a comfy cell in a US jail, again, I don't get it...

Thank God Bush and Rumsfeld were not around during WWII.

First, what does this have to do with George Bush or Donald Rumsfeld? They are not in charge of the court martial of these men, the Army is.

I can understand the frustration of fighting an enemy that uses guerilla tactics. Seeing your comrades get killed by an unseen militant and you are unable to do anything to stop it is a very difficult way to fight a conflict. However, as difficult as it maybe, these men went too far. You defending them is wrong, however, I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that have been mis-informed on the true nature of these killings. What they did is wrong, they deserve the death penalty.

[LiddyRules]

I just found the "kid toucher kills a kid and gets a comfy cell in a US jail" line funny, it's such a lame cliche at this point. After all, everyone should know them there kid toucher should be ***** by a big black dick every day till Jesus returns.

[abudabit]

I just found the "kid toucher kills a kid and gets a comfy cell in a US jail" line funny, it's such a lame cliche at this point. After all, everyone should know them there kid toucher should be ***** by a big black dick every day till Jesus returns.

Not to mention these 4 soldiers are kid touchers, considering they gang ***** a girl. And then killed her family. And then killed her.

[LiddyRules]

Not to mention these 4 soldiers are kid touchers, considering they gang ***** a girl. And then killed her family. And then killed her. Ever see a SandN'ers head come apart like that?

[Multiple Miggs]

Not to mention these 4 soldiers are kid touchers, considering they gang ***** a girl. And then killed her family. And then killed her.
That's a different incident than this one. Here's what you're thinking of:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/07/09/soldiers.charged/index.html

[abudabit]

That's a different incident than this one. Here's what you're thinking of:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/07/09/soldiers.charged/index.html

Note to self: read articles before commenting. :icon_redf


Yeah, I agree, these 4 shouldn't be executed. Even if they did kill 3 unarmed POW's that isn't an executable offense if they believed them to be militants, at most under international standards it's a 20 year sentence (but usually less). Shitty that these 4 guys are getting recommended for the death penalty when those 4 who killed the family aren't.

[LiddyRules]

Note to self: read articles before commenting. :icon_redf Why be different from everyone else in the CE forum?

[Multiple Miggs]

Yeah, I agree, these 4 shouldn't be executed. Even if they did kill 3 unarmed POW's that isn't an executable offense if they believed them to be militants, at most under international standards it's a 20 year sentence (but usually less). Shitty that these 4 guys are getting recommended for the death penalty when those 4 who killed the family aren't.
I completely agree. What these soldiers did definitely sucked, but they don't deserve to be executed for it. On the other hand the 4 soldiers who participated in the **** and murder of a girl and her entire family, hanging is too kind. I have no sympathy whatsoever.

[Budyzir]

The press has been pretty lousy in reporting on the war. With that said, as a former naval officer, when they go through their trial and, should they be found guilty, then they deserve this judgment. If this is true they have violated the very basic principle every other service member is fighting for in Iraq. They have violated their oaths as soldiers and deserve no less.

This whole story really enrages me. I served with some incredible individuals whose only rationale is to protect and serve. Like I said I’m angered but I will wait to see how the trial ends.

Remember 2ndLT Ilario Pantano, am Marine accused of “murdering” two Iraqi men.

[Schmed]

Note to self: read articles before commenting. :icon_redf


Yeah, I agree, these 4 shouldn't be executed. Even if they did kill 3 unarmed POW's that isn't an executable offense if they believed them to be militants, at most under international standards it's a 20 year sentence (but usually less). Shitty that these 4 guys are getting recommended for the death penalty when those 4 who killed the family aren't.

Where is the evidence, and who are the witnesses, locals ?

Was a body exhumed for forensic evidence ? or is it against the principles of Islam ?

[Schmed]

The press has been pretty lousy in reporting on the war. With that said, as a former naval officer, when they go through their trial and, should they be found guilty, then they deserve this judgment. If this is true they have violated the very basic principle every other service member is fighting for in Iraq. They have violated their oaths as soldiers and deserve no less.

This whole story really enrages me. I served with some incredible individuals whose only rationale is to protect and serve. Like I said I’m angered but I will wait to see how the trial ends.

Remember 2ndLT Ilario Pantano, am Marine accused of “murdering” two Iraqi men.

My brother actually met Ilario and had a discussion with him about this. A right wing radio host by the name of Michael Savage started a defense fund for Ilario and raised something like 50-60K for his defense. This case is bringing back memories regarding this case.

[Schmed]

First, what does this have to do with George Bush or Donald Rumsfeld? They are not in charge of the court martial of these men, the Army is.

I can understand the frustration of fighting an enemy that uses guerilla tactics. Seeing your comrades get killed by an unseen militant and you are unable to do anything to stop it is a very difficult way to fight a conflict. However, as difficult as it maybe, these men went too far. You defending them is wrong, however, I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that have been mis-informed on the true nature of these killings. What they did is wrong, they deserve the death penalty.

Oh, I don't know, "Commander in Chief" Title, I'm sure that goes a long way. We know how nice the Russian army was when they entered Berlin (at least the second wave), how do you feel about that, was that justifed, were not all Germans Nazis ? Payback for Barbarossa ?

These guys get attacked from all angles, and then these scumbags just disperse and mix into the local community, how do you tell is good vs. not good ? It's bullshit.

Beylo, I'm just breaking your balls, you're a good kid.

[B54]

Oh, I don't know, "Commander in Chief" Title, I'm sure that goes a long way. We know how nice the Russian army was when they entered Berlin (at least the second wave), how do you feel about that, was that justifed, were not all Germans Nazis ? Payback for Barbarossa ?

These guys get attacked from all angles, and then these scumbags just disperse and mix into the local community, how do you tell is good vs. not good ? It's bullshit.

Beylo, I'm just breaking your balls, you're a good kid.

It is a completely different situation with the Battle of Berlin, and most of the Nazi killings and ***** were not justified. After June 1945 the Soviet high command imposed punishments for the crimes ranging from arrest to execution. They were mostly punished for their actions.

Yes, fighting an unseen enemy is hard, as I have pointed out in my previous post. It is understandable that people lose their focus and have a slight moment of insanity during a conflict. What is unexcusable is this is occuring so rampantly. This is probaly the 5th case I have heard of just this week. There is a certain point where it is enough is enough, someone needs to be made an example of to show that this is unacceptable for the United States.