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SOS
09-03-2006, 06:03 AM
sfgate


Democratic Congress no longer a long shot


Marc Sandalow, Washington Bureau Chief

Sunday, September 3, 2006

(09-03) 04:00 PDT Washington -- There are two competing storylines for the 2006 midterm elections.

Nine weeks before election day, Democrats are poised to make their biggest gains since the post-Watergate elections more than three decades ago.

Discontent over the war in Iraq, falling wages, corruption on Capitol Hill and President Bush's sinking popularity have led experts to forecast a perfect storm that will return Democrats to a majority in the House for the first time since 1994, and make San Francisco Rep. Nancy Pelosi the speaker.

The experts give Democrats a shot at winning control of the Senate, a possibility that was regarded as unthinkable when the summer began, and say the party's prospects of taking over more than half of the nation's governorships are near certain.

Yet even as they foresee the strongest Democratic election in a generation, these same prognosticators see sharp limits to the party's potential gains.

Unlike 1974, when Democrats picked up 49 House seats, or 1994, when Republicans won 52 House seats and regained the majority for the first time in half a century, the political system today has been fortified to withstand big partisan waves or demands for change.

Sophisticated redistricting, strengthened party loyalty and the advantages of incumbency are so powerful that even in a year when voters seem to be hollering for change, most strategists regard just 1 in 3 Senate seats and 1 in 8 House seats as being competitive.

And though phrases like "tidal wave'' and "Category 5 hurricane'' are being used to describe the Democratic surge, many analysts still consider control of Congress up for grabs, and predict that whichever party wins will govern with one of the narrowest majorities in history.

Sixty-five days before the Nov. 7 vote, the campaign is shaping up as a clash between a potent call for change and a system designed to prevent it.

"The Democratic upside is limited by the paucity of districts in play," said Stuart Rothenberg, editor of the nonpartisan Rothenberg Political Report, which handicaps every congressional race in the country.

"There are enough seats for Democrats to take control. But there are not a lot of seats" in play, Rothenberg said.

As the campaign season enters its prime, most analysts identify roughly between 25 and 50 truly competitive House seats, and anywhere from six to 12 competitive Senate seats.

The narrow political landscape means that much of the billion-plus dollars to be spent will be concentrated in a relatively small number of states and congressional districts -- most of them thousands of miles from the West Coast.

Of the 36 most competitive districts identified by analyst Charlie Cook, who publishes another nonpartisan political newsletter, 14 are in the New England states, New York, New Jersey or Pennsylvania. Another 12 are in the Midwest. In California, home to roughly 1 in 12 Americans, Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein is considered a lock for re-election, and only one of the state's 53 congressional districts -- the Central Valley district represented by Republican Richard Pombo -- is regarded as in play.

While Democrats have been crowing for months, it is only over the past few weeks that nonpartisan analysts have identified enough likely victories for Democrats to pick up the 15 House seats they need for a majority.

Rothenberg predicts Democrats will win between 15 and 20 additional seats. University of Virginia political scientist and congressional race handicapper Larry Sabato projects the party will pick up between 13 and 19 seats. Cook identifies 46 competitive seats -- 36 of which are held by Republicans -- and predicts: "Unless something dramatic happens before election day, Democrats will take control of the House.''

As a sign of the growing acceptance that Democrats are poised to win, the National Journal asked 75 GOP insiders last week to assign a number between zero (no chance) and 10 (virtual certainty) to the likelihood that Democrats will take over the House. The average score was 5.7.

"It's getting ugly and time's running out,'' commented one GOP respondent.

"It will take a near miracle to save the majority,'' said another.

Things are not as bleak for Republicans in the Senate, where Democrats must pick up six new seats for a majority. Polls suggest Democrats have a good shot at winning GOP seats in Pennsylvania, Montana, Ohio, Rhode Island and Missouri. But to win the majority, Democrats must win a sixth Republican seat in a less politically hospitable state such as Tennessee, Virginia or Arizona, as well as hold onto their own vulnerable seats in places like Minnesota and New Jersey.

The parity between parties in Congress reflects a divided electorate that dates back to the 2000 presidential election, which was decided by just over 500 votes in Florida.

Republicans have added to their majorities in each of the previous two elections, buttressed by concerns over national security brought on by the Sept. 11 attacks. But there are indications that the politics of terrorism will not help Republicans as they did in 2002 and 2004.

The public has turned against Bush and his war in Iraq. Americans are not as anxious about the prospect of another terrorist attack. And polls show the GOP's edge on national security, as high as 25 percentage points last year, has eroded to the point of near parity.

"The public is far past where it was in 2002 and 2004,'' said Allan Lichtman, a professor of political history at American University in Washington, D.C., who is running a longshot campaign for the Democratic Senate nomination in Maryland.

"I think they've seen the folly of the Bush administration, and the midterm elections are the last chance (the electorate) will ever have to express its frustration at George Bush," Lichtman said.

Democrats are trying to take advantage of Bush's unpopularity, rallying around a cry for a "new direction" as they try to nationalize the elections and play upon coast-to-coast discontent. Republicans are seeking to localize each race, distancing themselves from the sour national mood and arguing that district by district, they represent the better choice.

"Republicans have an opportunity to localize enough races to hold onto the House. Republicans still have a chance to change the election's trajectory. If they don't, they are going to lose the House," Rothenberg said.

The national poll numbers are dismal for Republicans. Bush's approval ratings are below 40 percent -- higher than they were a month ago, but significantly lower than where strategists say they must be to help his party. Pollsters who ask voters whether they believe the country is on the "right track" or the "wrong track" consistently find "wrong track" leading by a 2-to-1 margin, an ominous sign for the incumbent party.

Democrats outpoll Republicans by more than 10 percentage points when voters are asked which party they believe would do a better job running Congress. A Fox News poll conducted this week found just 24 percent of respondents approve of the job Congress is doing, compared with 61 percent who disapprove.

By nearly every measure, the Republican Party is in as bad if not worse shape than Democrats were in the fall of 1994 as they lost their majority.

Even when it comes to raising money, Republicans have far less of an advantage than usual. The latest numbers compiled by opensecrets.org showed Republicans having raised $454 million for House and Senate campaigns, compared with $434 million for Democrats.

Yet there are important differences in the composition of districts from the 1994 election. Congressional districts lean more strongly to one party or another. The number of House members serving in safe districts in which they won by comfortable margins was considerably smaller. In 1994, 53 House Democrats represented districts in which President Clinton had lost. By comparison, there are only 18 House Republicans who represent districts in which Bush lost.

"If a huge wave hits, the races all tend to go in one direction, so Democrats have an opportunity," Rothenberg said. "But Democrats don't have a huge margin of error."

NorfByNorfWest
09-03-2006, 06:13 AM
Why are democrats always bitching?

SOS
09-03-2006, 07:18 AM
They want power and they see bitching about things as a way to get people to dissociate with the GOP.

BCH
09-03-2006, 08:17 AM
They want power and they see bitching about things as a way to get people to dissociate with the GOP.

Hmmmmmm, That's a very interesting strategy.........

I wonder if that works in any other arenas?

Schmed
09-03-2006, 08:43 AM
Hmmmmmm, That's a very interesting strategy.........

I wonder if that works in any other arenas?

Now, all of the GOPs can bitch about the Dems.

If you think about it, it is just a "Republicrat", or a "Demican" party anyway. It turned into a mulatta, mongrel type of party.

mascan42
09-03-2006, 09:34 AM
Discontent over the war in Iraq, falling wages, corruption on Capitol Hill and President Bush's sinking popularity have led experts to forecast a perfect storm that will return Democrats to a majority in the House for the first time since 1994, and make San Francisco Rep. Nancy Pelosi the speaker.
I'm all for a Dem-controlled House, but this twat should never be made Speaker.

Bill
09-03-2006, 11:37 AM
I'm all for a Dem-controlled House, but this twat should never be made Speaker.


Agreed. The Republicans should be very happy that they weren't able to push through some of the thingst that they attempted to push over these last two years, such as the abolishment of filibustering.

While attempting to push through legislation that would weaken the power of the minority party, they were acting as if the Republicans would be the majority party forever.

If the Democrats take over the majority the Republicans will be very active utilizing the same technique that attempted to outlaw.

turdfrgsn
09-03-2006, 11:50 AM
3 points:

--it doesn't matter which party is in power

--filibustering a judicial nominee is unconstitutional, so they wouldn't have been aboloshing anything other than what is already disallowed, filibusters on any other matter would be unaffected

--sfgate also said kerry would beat bush by a healthy margin

martianvirus
09-03-2006, 11:55 AM
at what point do we creat the wackbag party?

abudabit
09-03-2006, 12:00 PM
I hate filibusters. They're so undemocratic, and just a cheap shot. It's like when you're playing video games with a friend and you're kicking thier ass so they just hit reset.

B54
09-03-2006, 01:19 PM
It's like when you're playing video games with a friend and you're kicking thier ass so they just hit reset.

What generation are you in?

Even though a complete Democratic takeover is still unlikely in my book, they will pick up 7 or 8 net seats. I fear Democrats will take this country in an awful direction. Management in Iraq is starting to come together and they may try to do things to start withdrawing troops. I have little problem with ethical Democratic issues for the most part, it is the Defense and Policy Departments I have the problems with. Only time will tell however.

abudabit
09-03-2006, 02:42 PM
Childhood in the 80's and early 90's, that cheating mother fucker.

DonTheTrucker
09-03-2006, 03:40 PM
The benefit of Democrats winning big in November is they'll spend the next 2 years making asses of themselves and blow Hillary's chance of being president.

JoeFromDetroit
09-03-2006, 04:21 PM
Democratic Congress NO Longer a Long Shot
It hasn't been a long shot in a while. If they don't take control, they lose. Because now they "should" win. Not so sure it will be a dominate performance. But this is an election where democrats are a lot more likely to make sure they get EVERYONE on their side to vote.

Oh, and that twat being on the news everyday as the speaker will REALLY hurt the democrats. I actually can't wait. I REALLY REALLY hope they try some usless impeachment talk or something along those lines. The democrats will fuck this up really quick. Their hate for Bush will be a cloud until they start to really push for Hilary, another person that will fuck it up for the left. Not saying she can't win but that's a hard one to see at this time.

abudabit
09-03-2006, 04:34 PM
The benefit of Democrats winning big in November is they'll spend the next 2 years making asses of themselves and blow Hillary's chance of being president.

Or the Republicans can just skip all that and nominate McCain.

JoeFromDetroit
09-03-2006, 04:37 PM
Or the Republicans can just skip all that and nominate McCain.
Condi Rice would be a sure winner, not so sure about McCain. It's unlikely Clinton would win but against McCain i'd have to get drunk on election night so I wouldn't be paranoid in a corner.

DonTheTrucker
09-03-2006, 04:58 PM
McCain, Hillary...whats the difference?

I have always supported George Allen, and after hearing his "macaca" references to that political hack who was trailing him, I'm even more behind him.

Plunkies
09-03-2006, 06:03 PM
Ah the age old choice between douche and turd, and the idiots that actually support one side or the other like it really matters. But if there's one thing I do know, it's that Bush and Hillary should die in a fire.

abudabit
09-03-2006, 06:12 PM
Condi Rice would be a sure winner, not so sure about McCain. It's unlikely Clinton would win but against McCain i'd have to get drunk on election night so I wouldn't be paranoid in a corner.

McCain is leading all the general election polls. He is kicking Hillary's and everyone else's ass in them. Guiliani is the only other Republican to beat her in the polls, but he is barely beating her.

And to the other guy with the douche vs turd comment, of course you are going to hate every candidate and every party. They have to appeal to a large swath of the populace, there is no such thing as a candidate with a chance of winning who would be your dream candidate. It's the nature of democracy, you can't gain mainstream support and be loved at the same time. The most you can do is gain mainstream support and be hated the least. Doesn't make them bad people, doesn't make you an outsider from society. It's a big country with a lot of views and these candidates have to conglomerate that.

JoeFromDetroit
09-03-2006, 07:02 PM
McCain is leading all the general election polls. He is kicking Hillary's and everyone else's ass in them. Guiliani is the only other Republican to beat her in the polls, but he is barely beating her.
Very true but I think the only "sure winner" would be Rice. She probably won't run, not sure why. McCain and Guilliani would most likely beat her but I might get a little worried. McCain isn't a guy I even like that much. But I would NEVER vote for the cunt Clinton.

turdfrgsn
09-03-2006, 07:18 PM
Ah the age old choice between douche and turd

just to clarify, i'm not running for anything :icon_mrgr

but i predict giuliani will be the next prez

mccain would never survive the primaries

MrBogey
09-03-2006, 09:17 PM
When a business succeeds they run out their competitors. They then hire all the "experienced" managers from the competition. As a result they end up just as bad as the weak business they put out.

The Republicans embraced the Democrats too strongly. In a way you can bame it on Bush. He really has tried his damnest to reach out to the Dems. As a result they have blasted him with insults that worked so well against them(big gov't, et al)

What the Republicans need to do is burn the bridge to the Democrats and become an ideologically based party again. We can't afford to have a party like the Dems in power after they've become so entrenched in their "dim Americanism".

LiddyRules
09-03-2006, 11:22 PM
I think it's the opposite, I think the Democrats embraced the Republicans too strongly. The Republicans know they can do whatever they want, they exist on an ideology, they go to their own drummer. It's the Democrats who become the Republicans' lapdogs, who try to win elections by making themselves seem like less intense democrats and pandering to whatever group they are in front of.

But to make it seem like the Republicans have been coopted by the Democrats is ridiculous.

westben2002
09-04-2006, 12:04 AM
i'm a independent, former republican, and i really can't stand either party...i mean, i'm financially concervative, socially moderate, but i really can't take the partisan bickering all the time. after the war in iraq, and this ultra-right theocracy on media, i think the dems have a really good chance of grabbing the next election in november

but i'm gonna vote for santorum because he's a good guy, but he might lose to casey

BIV
09-04-2006, 12:17 AM
You could run Bush against Hilary and hilary would still lose.

People are all high and mghty in polls, but there is no way in Hell that any female Democrat, let alone Hilary, would be elected president.

The left doesn't like to believe this, but there are still far more conservatives in this country then liberals. The disatisfaction with the generational presidents is the only reason the last two elections were so close. But the thought of another Clinton, combined with a liberal extremist, combined with a women would spell death to the Democrats chances at winning in '08.

The Democrats can win if they get themselves a moderate. That's it, the only thing they need to do. Get someone who is for a strong military and a firm hand in foreign affairs and isn't going to screw with gun rights and you win.

Continue with these wacky hippies and idealists you insist on putting up as candidates and you will lose again.

Why is this so hard for the Dems to understand?

LiddyRules
09-04-2006, 12:25 AM
Again, I don't think the Democrats are doing that. I think they are more getting pandering douchebags who refuse to take any stand on any issue because they are afraid of alienating voters. The reason why people might think the Democrats are complete communist extremeists is because the Republicans paint them out that way. If you look at them, what they do, what they aim to do, they NEED someone who looks like they have strength in their convictions no matter that those convictions might be. And they need to take a stand that is opposite or at least different to what the Republicans offer and stop being like Republicans-lite.

What wacky hippie and idealists do they put up as candidates or shows on their platforms?

I have no problem if a Democrat will go up there with a strong message. Strong on foreign affairs, bully for him. If instead of saying "well, I don't know..." or "there needs to be more research on that" go up and say "I'm for gay marriage, abortion, and legalization of pot, now suck it." They have to stop playing the "Vote For Us Because We're Not Them" game because it is not working nor will it work.

JoeFromDetroit
09-04-2006, 12:42 AM
"there needs to be more research on that" go up and say "I'm for gay marriage, abortion, and legalization of pot, now suck it." They have to stop playing the "Vote For Us Because We're Not Them" game because it is not working nor will it work.
Gay Marriage - Not popular at all, especially with those important minorities.
abortion - not popular, everyone says the fewer, the better.
Pot? You in high school? Thats not a political issue, more important shit to debate...btw, gay marriage isn't one of those.

Terror - when you have Bin Laden basically making a vid in support of Kerry weeks before the election. It is hard to sell the left on this issue. But hey, Bill Maher said "Bad people can say good things" about that vid...ugh...

Thats why they aren't "standing for these." I don't like it(just have balls and be honest) but liberals lose on many of these issues. They know the Micheal Moore candidate wouldn't be good for the party.

sinAtra
09-07-2006, 02:04 AM
Deep down, there's a difference between the Pubes and the Craps? Really? I can understand how you might be tricked by outer appearances, speeches, documentaries and the like - but deep down there's really a difference? I don't think so.

Teach me people. I haven't seen any difference at all.