Organic Food

[ShooterMcGavin]

<Seinfeld>

What's the DEAL with organic food? Isn't all food supposed to be this way? Why not just call it food!

</Seinfeld>

Seriously. This is confusing me.

Because of the retards working at the supermarket who can't stock the eggs properly, causing an egg in each carton to be cracked, I had to settle with the "organic" eggs in the plastic carton. I just had a couple of these eggs with my breakfast and I'm not understanding the difference. It tastes the same as a regular egg, yet I'm supposed to believe it has better health benefits than a regular egg. I wasn't quite sure what "organic" meant, so I decided to look it up.

From Wikipedia:
Organic food is produced according to legally regulated standards. For crops, it means they were grown without the use of conventional pesticides, artificial fertilizers or sewage sludge, and that they were processed without ionizing radiation or food additives. For animals, it means they were reared without the routine use of antibiotics and without the use of growth hormones. Also, at all levels, organic food is produced without the use of genetically modified organisms.

So organic food is food that is grown in the way its supposed to be grown...

Wikipedia also says that organic foods tend to be more expensive.

Why? If you aren't paying as much to grow/breed the food, it would only make sense that it would cost less.

This whole organic food thing confuses me. Someone please explain to me why organic food is better or worse than the regular stuff.

[NoSurviivors]

as far as I know, some chemical alterations are shortcuts to increase productivity/fertility. that's why they're cheaper.

[Fuck Crosby]

it tastes better i know that much

[Lil'GlubGlub]

Organics are the way to go.


The meats are steroid free and produce is grown with nothing that can kill you.


organic might not have the shelf life of conventional food, but its worth it.



many people are confused about the trans fat bans too.


Trans fats are what is produced when you add hydrogen to oils to extend shelf life.

which is outstanding for cost, but the downside is the hydrogenated oils are bad for your heart.

the bans mean restaurants will have to switch to regular oils which will be more expensive, but eventually the price will even out as it will be produced more, instead of the hydrogenated oils.

[Sunsetspawn]

as far as I know, some chemical alterations are shortcuts to increase productivity/fertility. that's why they're cheaper.
Yup. Off of the top of my head
We eat primarily female animals and their by-products, so...
Growth Hormone = bigger animals faster and with less food = 4 year olds with big tities, feminine cancers, smaller penises, male infertility, less muscle, generally fucked up endocrine systems.

Pesticides = less work on crops = CANCER CANCER CANCER, smaller organs, imbalace of microbial life in your intestines, mutations, infertility, retardation.

Mercury = Autism, mutations, maybe cancer, retardation

Sewage = ecoli, chemicals, I don't know much about this one

Artificial sweeteners = cheaper than sugar/no calories = cancer, headaches, anal leakage, constipation, bloating.

Hormones and pesticides are in everything, artificial sweeteners in most things (even if not on the label). Mercury and sewage not so much.

I know all this and I still don't each much organic food.

[25133WhooOoAH]

I feel like its all Bullshit though, how can you prove that the Organic shit is better for you.

[Lil'GlubGlub]

I feel like its all Bullshit though, how can you prove that the Organic shit is better for you.


ya ever see a fat vegan?

[SurlyTruckDrivr]

I work for a natural/organic food co(United Natural Foods), the stuff is generally alot more expensive than regular groceries. And while it may not have chemicals or pesticides in it, some of the other shit is through the roof. Alot of the boxed entrees have crazy sodium levels and shit like that. It is a growing product though, depending on the area it's it. People who's idea of healthy is a new crack pipe aren't spending $6 on a jar of pasta sauce.

[Mommadeez4u]

'Organic' labeling is, in a word, a crock of shit. Ok that's four words, but it's still true. John Stossel did an excellent expose on this a while back.

[abudabit]

Organic is a scam, and I hate people who talk about the benefits of organic or vegetarian food but then turn around and drink beer. They'll drink that poison by the bottle but they won't eat food with trace amounts of a fucking growth hormone? Die fuckers, just die.

[NoSurviivors]

Organic is a scam, and I hate people who talk about the benefits of organic or vegetarian food but then turn around and drink beer. They'll drink that poison by the bottle but they won't eat food with trace amounts of a fucking growth hormone? Die fuckers, just die.

good point..

on the other hand, I doubt that the whole organic thing is a crock.. it is heavily marketed, but take a look into some of the chemicals used. I would go further, but I really dont remember the effects of each. I dated a vet student a loooong time ago tho.. so.. umm (AP)

[roche]

Organic is a scam, and I hate people who talk about the benefits of organic or vegetarian food but then turn around and drink beer. They'll drink that poison by the bottle but they won't eat food with trace amounts of a fucking growth hormone? Die fuckers, just die.

Hey now, don't hate on the beer. Beer is good. Beer is your friend. :icon_mrgr

[Jef Leppard]

20 years ago 12 yo girls didnt have D-cups, 13 yo boys didnt have beards and mustaches, cancer rates in women were far lower then today. the hormones and antibiotics used in animals today are changing the structure of the human metabolism.











and i like girls to pee in my mouth

[Sunsetspawn]

20 years ago 12 yo girls didnt have D-cups, 13 yo boys didnt have beards and mustaches, cancer rates in women were far lower then today. the hormones and antibiotics used in animals today are changing the structure of the human metabolism.
Nothing is different, it's all in your mind. Those aren't chemicals in our food. Girls have always been able to get pregnant at 9. Those aren't chemicals in your skies. UFOs are swamp gas. See the pretty TV, go back to sleep.

[mascan42]

20 years ago 12 yo girls didnt have D-cups
You say that like it's a bad thing.

[Jef Leppard]

You say that like it's a bad thing.
it is a bad thing . 20 years ago i was 15 and the girls didnt have D-cups, i got gipped

[Sunsetspawn]

it is a bad thing . 20 years ago i was 15 and the girls didnt have D-cups, i got gipped
Well then you've got some catching up to do, it's never too late.
Take lemons, you know what I'm sayin'

[BravoSierra]

It's bullshit. Let's say you decide to grow organic corn. The guy next to you is growing corn non-organically. His pesticides and tainted seeds blow the fence line, you still think you're growing organic veggies when you're really not over time. If you eat organically, the hippies win.

[LZMF1]

out of curiosity i bought a quart of organic 2% milk and i gotta admit.....the shit does taste better.

[Cunt Smasher]

I insist on all organic or vegan,and enjoy a lucky after!

[ShooterMcGavin]

out of curiosity i bought a quart of organic 2% milk and i gotta admit.....the shit does taste better.

The eggs were pretty damn good.

But I have to say I do not enjoy organic popcorn.

[MrBogey]

It all depends on the individual product and producer. Most veggies and fruits you won't see much of a difference in as pesticides have been engineered to not affect flavoring as much. But usually in dairy and meat you'll see quite a noticable change. The old ways were just better for making it. It's just like winemaking. All the advances in the world and a 15yr old bottle of scotch made to centuries old standards is still better. Almost all the advances for production in the past couple decades were designed for yield increase and not quality.

I had some eggnog made from rBGH free cows last month and I have to say it was bar none the finest non-home brewed stuff I've ever had.

[Sparkstalker]

out of curiosity i bought a quart of organic 2% milk and i gotta admit.....the shit does taste better.

Not only that, but it should last longer...take a look at the sell by date...

[ChrisC_EIT]

It's bullshit. Let's say you decide to grow organic corn. The guy next to you is growing corn non-organically. His pesticides and tainted seeds blow the fence line, you still think you're growing organic veggies when you're really not over time. If you eat organically, the hippies win.

If the pesticides are blowing over the fence, the organic farmer loses the ability to call his product organic. It's really that simple, and because of that, organic farming is extraordinarily difficult. And, remember, just because something isn't registered (or whatever the term is) organic doesn't mean it's non-organic.

And while pesticides may be engineered to "not affect flavor" their use is harmful, whether or not you wash it all off by the time it reaches your mouth.

The issue of organic farming is a lot more complex than just trying to get the consumer to eat a "better" product. Have you ever grown citrus? An orange or lemon pulled directly from the tree is a zillion times better than anything you find at any store. It's that idea that drives much of organic farming, in that you're more likely to be buying something locally grown, so in effect, it should be fresher. But by buying "locally" you'll keep your money locally as well, rather than some asshole in an office 3 time zones away taking all the profits.

And the downside is that organic products do NOT have the shelf life that non-organic do. In my experience, bread is the worst.

My answer to the original post is that organic food is better, because the entire process is "better". Pesticides aren't poisoning the groundwater. They're grown locally (typically) and therefore, the profits from the sale stay local. And of course, an organic product isn't going to contain things like hydrogenated corn syrup which are only fattening.