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B54
01-17-2007, 11:30 PM
Interesting read if you have 5 minutes. I am mynameisjoey.

Paltalk: This is a G rated voice room intended for a General Audience including minors. Offensive language is not permitted.
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chaplain angel_1: welcome all
mynameisjoey: but .. i was born into the wiccan faith.
jENNjENNtheRN: as long as you do not openly blaspheme God, you are welcome to stay
mynameisjoey: i want to be a christian .. but i do not want to wrong my parents
mynameisjoey: they will not allow christianity
jENNjENNtheRN: joey, it is written in Scripture to honor your mother and father
mynameisjoey: they said they would kick me out of i go to church
jENNjENNtheRN: but it's also written in scripture to love God above all
mynameisjoey: they found my bible, and they beat me.
jENNjENNtheRN: God will carry you through, any persecutions
jENNjENNtheRN: and will make a path for your righteousness
chaplain angel_1: how can we help you
jENNjENNtheRN: Gbu
Believer: Praise the Lord.
mynameisjoey: well, i dont understand, the jews were suffering since 155BC and they still are
seekers-muse: good night all ...... bless you
mynameisjoey: why wont god help tem
mynameisjoey: **them
chaplain angel_1: hi ops
jENNjENNtheRN: love and blessings muse
dantheman3: yes wat about the millions of jews that died for no reason
dantheman3: in the holocaust
mynameisjoey: if god didnt help 6 million, why would he help me, just 1
mynameisjoey: will no one answer my question?
jENNjENNtheRN: Paul?
jENNjENNtheRN: sorry joey, was in PM answering a question there
chaplain angel_1: what was question
jENNjENNtheRN: paul, would you take that last question please?
jENNjENNtheRN: from joey?
chaplain angel_1: wow
mynameisjoey: well, i dont understand, the jews were suffering since 155BC and they still are
jENNjENNtheRN: I don't have the knowledge to take that one
chaplain angel_1: I cannot answer why God did not help more
mynameisjoey: if god didnt help 6 million, why would he help me, just 1
mynameisjoey: that was my question
jENNjENNtheRN: I must apologize
chaplain angel_1: although am not sure all the blame rests on God though
chaplain angel_1: the church did not do right either
mynameisjoey: well, isnt everything in the World God's will?
chaplain angel_1: no
jENNjENNtheRN: gbu
mynameisjoey: i am not trying to be mean, these questions are meant for me to learn
chaplain angel_1: I know
mynameisjoey: i am still young, i want a better understanding
chaplain angel_1: no, not all things are GOd's will
mynameisjoey: isnt that what the bible says
chaplain angel_1: God allows some things that make no sense
chaplain angel_1: but what He allows is not always part of HIS plan
ascending dove40: most Jews were and are blinded to the fact that Jesus is Messiah, and as for their suffering, partly due to the reason that they did not believe God and were disobedient
ascending dove40: but HE has not forsaken them
mynameisjoey: you are saying 6 million died because they killed jesus?
mynameisjoey: i thought God forgave there sins
chaplain angel_1: no
chaplain angel_1: many chose not to accept the forgiveness
ascending dove40: no joey
mynameisjoey: how can you decline forgiveness .. when christ was on the cross, didnt he say, forgive them father, they know not what they do?
chaplain angel_1: joey
mynameisjoey: yes
chaplain angel_1: let me ask a question
mynameisjoey: sure
chaplain angel_1: have you chosen to accept God's forgiveness
mynameisjoey: i dont know if i should ... God has had a cold shoulder to the Jews, and there are so many wars, and people are dying
chaplain angel_1: have you chosen to accept God's forgiveness
mynameisjoey: i want to, but i dont think God exists .. i mean, how can you really know?
chaplain angel_1: if you choose not to, then why can they choose/ choose not to accept
mynameisjoey: isnt it logical that there is something else? again, no disrespect.
chaplain angel_1: what other options there joey
ascending dove40: Jenn, cuz i am shutting up and letting Paul handle the questions..He da expert
mynameisjoey: evolution
jENNjENNtheRN: ok
mynameisjoey: may i say something?
chaplain angel_1: listening
jENNjENNtheRN: yes joey, when the song is over?
mynameisjoey: well, chaplain, you never really answered my question .. i dont want to jump in with blind faith.
mynameisjoey: that seems dangerous.
mynameisjoey: what makes you so sure that Christianity is the right answer
chaplain angel_1: what does the BIble say about it
mynameisjoey: what about all the Muslims? Are they going to go to hell just because they worship Allah?
chaplain angel_1: yep
jENNjENNtheRN: ok joey
jENNjENNtheRN: you have the mic
chaplain angel_1: anyone who does not accept Jesus has condemned themselves
jENNjENNtheRN: following God, being Christian
jENNjENNtheRN: was that what you were referring to?
jENNjENNtheRN: ok, i misunderstood...i'm sorry
mynameisjoey: what about the unconsistencies of the Bible?
jENNjENNtheRN: welcome Servant, Gbu
mynameisjoey: they dont follow any real history
mynameisjoey: it isnt an excuse, it is proven fact. History dictates, science dictates, WITH PROOF, unlike you, who is blind faith about something you have NO CLUE about.
mynameisjoey: i am not attacking.
mynameisjoey: i just want to have a rational discussion.
mynameisjoey: tell me the truth
mynameisjoey: i am listening
jENNjENNtheRN: Faith is believing~~without seeing
mynameisjoey: no, i will stop typing, and listen .. go ahead sir.
jENNjENNtheRN: reading the Word and believing~~THAT is faith
aussiechildofgod: Joey, we're happy to pray for you, to fellowship with you, and share your life with you, but we dont debate doctrine in here
jENNjENNtheRN: ty aussie
jENNjENNtheRN: This room follows the Bible, ONLY
aussiechildofgod: This is God's room, we are happy to share Christ with you, and im sure if you have questions one of the admins here would be happy to take it to a private message
mynameisjoey: So will I go to hell if I do not believe?
aussiechildofgod: Joey, Im sure someone will be happy to take your comments to a pm
jENNjENNtheRN: eternal separation from God IS what happens if you do not believe
aussiechildofgod: please do so
jENNjENNtheRN: YES
jENNjENNtheRN: it's something that is an individual, personal, and intimate decision of the heart joey
jENNjENNtheRN: and solely based on faith in God and His word
mynameisjoey: i guess im burning in flames then, thanks for makin me go to hell, may you enjoy your ground that you rot in.
jENNjENNtheRN: May he find Jesus in his life before the end comes on earth
chaplain angel_1: amen]
aussiechildofgod: *sigh* that kind of thing makes me sad
chaplain angel_1: been crazy day online and offline

Bounced.

chaplain angel_1 was on mic telling me how I am wrong, how you must follow blindly and there is no other choice, then told me how my soul will burn in Hell. Fun stuff.

This was a team effort, me and BckallyAbortion were coming up with stuff to say to them. More to come later!

boardsofcanada
01-17-2007, 11:33 PM
Yea..whenever we used rational thinking and legimate arguments this douche just got pissed and dodged the questions.

MJMANDALAY
01-17-2007, 11:36 PM
I did read it all.
Interesting.

SOS
01-18-2007, 08:35 AM
God Warrior this Friday on Trading Spouses.
:D

usadingo
01-18-2007, 12:09 PM
Ugh. I get annoyed when basic questions can't be answered.

Motor Head
01-30-2007, 01:07 PM
I'm a Christian, but these sacks of cunt are not real Christians. They hide behind the bible to sheild them from reality. The same type that molest kids, and have a picture of Jesus hanging above the bed they do it on. They stand in judgement of everyone, and exchanged the beliefs that being humble and pius are no longer the cornerstones to be a good Christian.

I went to college with morons that carried a bibles, and tried to inject thier Christian beliefs into every political or social arguement. They usually got shredded and it was always fun to get one of the bible girls to cry when they had 100 holes poked in thier theories. We made "Larry Flynt for President" shirts when they had a bible rally. We got into a shouting match when we asked if it was more obscene to kill someone then it was to make love to someone. Basically throwing out the same arguement that Flynt did back in the 70's. I topped it off with "God Bless your Vagina".

Organized religion steals the soul.

sknight
01-30-2007, 01:40 PM
Can't rationalize with these people. They're more like a cult, unfortunately. When you asked the question about Muslims and Allah, that was the biggest tipoff to them perpetuating the "Join us of else!" mentality of organized religion and other cults. Allah=God and in Islam, Jesus is recognized as a prophet, but not the son of god.

Additionally, why did god produce humans with free will and the ability to step back and take a chance on evaluating all possible alternatives, including religion and the existence of god, then reaffirming or confirming belief based on evidence, rather than following blindly? In my view, one who follows a scientific method to prove god in their own minds is an idiot, but can do it to make themselves believe is probably a more firm believer than a person that just blindly believes. I'm not sure which book of the bible it is, but if you doubt god once, you're eternally damned, no matter what.

And do these people not understand that "god's plan" is their answer and not his for bridging the gap between the lies of a god that loves us and the bad things that happens?

It's a fucking cult, "Do as I say...do not question". This is just like my area's mountain biking club. It's a fucking cult and they don't do a lot of shit right. When the corruption is exposed, they blacklist, harass, and ban you, but if you agree with everything they say, eyes glazed, you're ok.

sknight
01-30-2007, 01:48 PM
I also have to add that alot of the splits we see in the Judeo-Christian religions can be sourced from "god", so we, in effect, have been misled, either about the messiah, which way to worship, and which spiritual leaders to follow.

So why would god mislead us, then damn us because he purposely mislead us and each religion is saying they're the promised people?

DanaReevesLungs
01-30-2007, 11:18 PM
2 words...Jesus Camp