Most overrated QB of all time.

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

Joe Namath hands down. He ended his career with more interceptions than TD's and ever Jet fan claims he is the greatest. He is a homo who wore panty hose. He also wore fur only pimps and homos wear furs. Besides He won one game in his life which happened to be the superbowl only because the colts over looked the Jets. Joe Namath is over rated. Would Rather have Rex over him any sunday.

[Bunny™]

I think he poked Bobby behind Tiger's doghouse as well.

STEVE GROGAN 4 LIFE!

[Capt.Quint]

Have to agree with you. Broadway Joe was a cocky motherfucker who was popular just for wearing dumb things and saying dumb things.The fact that some people would consider him great just because he won a super bowl makes me sick.:puke:

[DonTheTrucker]

I like Namath but I think you may be on to something.

Look at the all time numbers, according to those, Steve Deberg deserves a spot in the HoF over Namath.

[rustytrombone1]

Dan Marino.....he cried.

[mendozathejew]

theres so many, whether its all time ratings that are overrated, or overated in popularity/marketing

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

theres so many, whether its all time ratings that are overrated, or overated in popularity/marketing
Yes

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

I should have added if any Jets fan tries to evaluate talent and teams I say your wasting your time. Especially those who think ESPN the marketing sports network is next to NY and they love to pump up the East coast. As I noticed last week the ESPN crew all picked the Saints and that didnt work out to well.

[Bud8Weiser]

Dan Marino.....he cried.
:clap:

[chewonmysac]

Joe Theisman, Daunte Culpepper
Ron Powlus ( Notre Dame)
Heath Shuler. Yes I am a Skins fan and this could be the worst Draft pick of all time.

[BravoSierra]

Eli Manning.

[mendozathejew]

remember when mcgwires brother dan was gona be a superstar for eight seconds

[Hoagie]

Especially those who think ESPN the marketing sports network is next to NY and they love to pump up the East coast. As I noticed last week the ESPN crew all picked the Saints and that didnt work out to well.New Orleans is on the East coast? "whaa"

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

New Orleans is on the East coast? "whaa"
2 seperate points

[J. PETERSON]

Rick Meier, Ryan Leaf, Joe Namath

[Swamp CAve]

He was overrated if you look at his stats, as mentioned above they aren't really good; but, Namath was important for the game thought because the Jets winning the Super Bowl gave the AFL - NFL merger credibility.

He should also be in the Hall of Fame just for trying to make out with Suzy Kolber on Live TV.

And for full disclosure, I'm a Jets fan. :fu4:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Namath
The apex of his career was his performance in the Jets' January 1969 win over the Baltimore Colts in the World Championship Game, now referred to as Super Bowl III. The Colts were touted as "the greatest football team in history". Former NFL star and coach Norm Van Brocklin ridiculed the AFL before the game, saying "This will be Namath's first professional football game." Writers from NFL cities insisted it would take the AFL several more years to be truly competitive with the NFL. Much of the hype surrounding the game was related to how it would either prove or disprove the proposition that the AFL teams were truly worthy of being allowed to merge with the NFL; the first two such games had resulted in blowout victories for the NFL champion champion in the two previous years, the Green Bay Packers, and the Colts were even more favored by media figures and handicappers than the Packers had been.

Three days before the game, Namath responded to a heckler with the now-famous line: "The Jets will win on Sunday, I guarantee it." His words made headlines across the country, but were dismissed as mere bravado by most observers.

In the game, however, Namath backed up his boast and showed that his success against tough American Football League competition had more than prepared him to take on the NFL. The Colts' vaunted defense was unable to contain the Jets' running or passing game, while their ineffective offense gave up four interceptions to the Jets. Namath was the game's MVP, completing eight passes to George Sauer alone, for 133 yards. Namath acquired legendary status for American Football League fans as the symbol of their league's legitimacy.

[DeLLBerto]

Todd Marinovich

[Jimmy's Dignity]

Well I'm going to go with an active player...Michael Vick. ESPN and every other sports source has claimed him to be Jesus Christ in cleats. He's a shitty quarterback...damned good 3rd down scatback, but an awful QB. Makes shitty reads, and some of the shittiest throws ever. If people had hands on their ankles, he'd have at least a 65% completion percentage


but Marinovich is a damned good nominee for the award too

[tysonpunchinguterus]

I have to agree with Namath being hte most over-rated of all-time. He only had one season in his entire career where he threw more TDs than INTs. One big game and a few commercials does not make you great.

For active guys, it's Vick. He's a highlight reel because of his running, but he rarely does anything notable when he's forced to throw. I think he had a couple of good passing games early in the year, but then went back to being his average self.

I don't consider draft busts when I think of over-rated guys because they were never considered great in the NFL. The college-to-NFL transition is too tough for QBs to really know for sure which guys are going to be great and who's going to stink.

[TreeFortRichard]

I too have to agree with vick. He is a great runner, but he could never win a superbowl

[SnuggleBug]

Well I'm going to go with an active player...Michael Vick. ESPN and every other sports source has claimed him to be Jesus Christ in cleats. He's a shitty quarterback...damned good 3rd down scatback, but an awful QB. Makes shitty reads, and some of the shittiest throws ever. If people had hands on their ankles, he'd have at least a 65% completion percentage


but Marinovich is a damned good nominee for the award too

:clap: :clap: Thaaaank you. That's who i was going to pick. BUT since you did, I'll go with another one. Shitty ass Brett Favre. The guy has been in the league forever and still plays like a fucking rookie. Every year he gets worse and holds back the Packers of developing any new QB talent because he refuses to retire and never makes his decision till the last minute Keeping the Packers guessing on what to do next season. Why the organization and fans suck this guy's dick is beyond me. I mean yeah he won a super bowl, but was that even because of him?? I'd say no and I'd also say just look at Mr. Desmond Howard, the late/great Reggie White, and Dorcey Levens on the reason they won their superbowl

[Dopie Opie]

Namath, yes but he did win a super bowl.

Plus when he went after that chick on MNF was fucking classic.

"I don't care about the Jets, I just want to kiss you"

Suzy Kolber, I think.

[tar_baby]

mirer and powlus definitely...holtz ruined them cause he didnt even have a QB coach and ran the fucking option and hb dive too goddamn much

[the_ba]

Rick Meier, Ryan Leaf, Joe Namath

Ryan Leaf was obviously overrated coming into the league because of how big of a flop he turned out to be. But as far as someone whose NFL career is overrated, I'd have to go with Namath. He had one, very high-profile victory, but the rest of his career wasn't very impressive. By the time all is said and done, you might be able to throw Michael Vick in there too.

[Dopie Opie]

I think there is a big difference from being a flop of a draft pick and over rated.

[the_ba]

I think there is a big difference from being a flop of a draft pick and over rated.

Absolutely! We could start a whole other thread about biggest college-to-NFL flop of a QB. Ryan Leaf, Tim Couch, Akili Smith, Heath Shuler, Cade McNown, by the time all is said and done, maybe Eli Manning. The list goes on.

[Dopie Opie]

Absolutely! We could start a whole other thread about biggest college-to-NFL flop of a QB. Ryan Leaf, Tim Couch, Akili Smith, Heath Shuler, Cade McNown, by the time all is said and done, maybe Eli Manning. The list goes on.


Big difference between Joe Namath and Ryan Leaf......

[N.Y. Johnny]

Namath avoids it for one reason, and I'll tell you its because he won that Super Bowl making the merger possible. I think the Colts overlooking them is part of the equation, but Namath did put his neck on the line with that "guarantee" and delivered.

If he didn't win that game he would've gone down in history as a bigmouth loser and the NFL as we know it now maybe is different.

Namath's stats aren't Dan Marino's stats and maybe not even close, but he's got that Super Bowl win that alot of others don't, and this win is probably the most historic and important one in history.

Michael Vick has nothing and sure looks to not win much of anything and he's made out like someone mentioned as Jesus Christ in cleats. Thats pretty stupid considering he probably won't even win a passing title much less a Super Bowl Title.

[bethm1b]

Dante Culpepper stinks!!!

[PDOT]

Dante Culpepper stinks!!!

ill give him 1 more season.

[weakside]

Todd Marinovich

Agreed.

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

These guys everyone are naming are good busts Todd M, Ryan Leaf, McNown and so on just plain stunk and everyone knew it. Overrated is someone who the fans and Media pump up.
Current guys Eli Manning and Vick (but I am seeing that people are jumping off the band wagon).
Namath is treated like a God and his career numbers stink. He had one good game and people love him.

[Sinn Fein]

I'm gonna say it. Honorable mention goes to Donovan McNabb. Flame away.

[Your_Moms_Box]

I agree, McNabb is very overrated

plus, he's

the negroooooooooooo

[Dopie Opie]

I'm gonna say it. Honorable mention goes to Donovan McNabb. Flame away.
Excellent pick

[fandango86]

Definitely Michael Vick. I was watching some sports show earlier this year (Around the Horn or PTI or something) and the question came up - who got the better of the Falcons/Chargers trade that essentially ended up being Vick for LT. This was right after Vick had played a really great game. Every person in the discussion chose the Falcons and Vick.

People romanticize Namath's SB win, but a lot of stuff from our Father's era gets blown out of proportion. I have no doubt that if Namath played the game in the era where all the games are able to be seen by everyone, and he compiled the same record and the same stats, he would be more in the conversation with Trent Dilfer than with Joe Montana and John Elway.

So I while I agree that Namath doesn't deserve the hype he gets, I also think that hype is just a product of a past era, while Vick's hype is completely unexplainable.

[EveryoneHasAIDS]

Definitely Michael Vick.

I couldn't agree more. I was reading this thread and was astonished Vick's name wasn't mentioned yet. He is the most overrated player in sports history. He's a hell of a running back, but a mediocre, at best, QB.

[J. PETERSON]

Chad Pennington, Mark Rypien, Rich Gannon

As far as flops:
Rob Johnson, Joey Harrington

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

Chad Pennington, Mark Rypien, Rich Gannon

No one compares these three 2 all time greats.

[NightStalker3]

Agreed.

Marinovich :icon_eek:

Todd Marinovich defeats Tommy Maddox in the 1990 UCLA vs. USC game 45-42

Yup, fucking "ROBO" QB, hes a hobo now.

Marinovich was arrested in a public bathroom in Newport Beach, California in May 2005, after being found with apparent drug paraphernalia. He fled on a bicycle, but was caught a few blocks away. He gave his occupation as "unemployed artist" on the police report. He was ordered to undergo six months of drug rehabilitation followed by six months of outpatient treatment as a result

[MilkmanDan]

The Great QB Draft of modern times....

Tim Couch : Out of the League
Donovan McNabb : Superbowl Appearance. Huge winning record since drafted.
Akili Smith : Out of the League - Fast
Cade McNown : Out of the League - Fast
Dante Culpepper : Benching it in Miami
Sinn Fein : Not Drafted !

I think that sums it up !

[Hoagie]

Namath is overrated as a QB but I think most of the time when Namath is talked about, it's about the prediction and his flamboyance and less about his ability. Brett Favre is talked about as if he single handedly won for the Packers. When in reality he's single handedly lost far more games then he's ever single handedly won. I vote for Favre.

[Kid Brock]

10 Worst Super Bowl QB's ever?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs06/news/story?id=2746974

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

That list is all wrong everyone knows it is Grossman 1-10.

[EveryoneHasAIDS]

Grossman isn't overrated, everyone knows he sucks!

I vote Tom Brady, c'mon, 3 Superbowls in 4 years, what you couldn't win 4 in a row? WEAK!!!!!!

[Save My Up's Dick]

Overrated is someone who the fans and Media pump up.
You're missing "and does not live up to his potential"

Granted Broadway Joe wasn't the greatest QB, but he did deliver one of the biggest victories in sports history, He guaranteed a Superbowl win. That and he got a ton of pussy.

Call him overrated but as SEXHOAGIE said, Namath will be remembered for the guaranteed SB win and his flamboyance.

[Dopie Opie]

Favre is interesting. Another guy not out there is Elway. Could not win a Super Bowl until Terrell Davis. Cannon for an arm and all that, but is a RB away from being Marino

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

You're missing "and does not live up to his potential"

Granted Broadway Joe wasn't the greatest QB, but he did deliver one of the biggest victories in sports history, He guaranteed a Superbowl win. That and he got a ton of pussy.

Call him overrated but as SEXHOAGIE said, Namath will be remembered for the guaranteed SB win and his flamboyance.
Broadway Joe had a terrible career. He won a game that the AFC needed to win. He also said it in anger to a heckler (assualt on the media). His Career numbers blow but he is compared to guys who have unreal numbers.

[Hoagie]

Favre is interesting. Another guy not out there is Elway. Could not win a Super Bowl until Terrell Davis. Cannon for an arm and all that, but is a RB away from being MarinoThe difference to me is that Elway was always a good QB and he was the reason why the Broncos won when they did. Granted Farve was sometimes the reason why his team won but he was way more often the reason why his team lost. Without a monster defense to make up for his 4 interception games he wouldn't have won as much as he did.

[Save My Up's Dick]

Broadway Joe had a terrible career. He won a game that the AFC needed to win. He also said it in anger to a heckler (assualt on the media). His Career numbers blow but he is compared to guys who have unreal numbers.
Terrible career?? He won a superbowl, not many QB's who played in the NFL can say that.
Yes, Namath's stats suck, but so did his team. It's all about winning the big one, Marino didn't. You can take his stats and shove 'em up your ass, if you have great stats and don't have a ring your career is shit...IMO..(ok, it's not shit, but it has to be very unsatisfying)

I'd take Namath's career over Marino's any day. minus the injuries of course

[Dopie Opie]

Yes, but when you look at what weapons he had at his disposal as well as the O Line and great defenses, something just does not click.

Maybe it was Reeves, maybe they just ran into better teams in the big game, but, for the team and talent he personally had, he should have one the big one, a few more times.

I am talking about Elway by the way.

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

Terrible career?? He won a superbowl, not many QB's who played in the NFL can say that.
Yes, Namath's stats suck, but so did his team. It's all about winning the big one, Marino didn't. You can take his stats and shove 'em up your ass, if you have great stats and don't have a ring your career is shit...IMO..(ok, it's not shit, but it has to be very unsatisfying)

I'd take Namath's career over Marino's any day. minus the injuries of course
Ok he is up there with Mark Rypien, Doug Williams and Trent Dilfer and you would rather have them instead of Marino. Ok here is what you dont understand 1 player does not make a Superbowl team. 1 good game by a player does not make a career. It is the body of work Namaths career
http://www.databasefootball.com/players/playerpage.htm?ilkid=NamatJoe01
No I am not stat boy but to compare namath to Legends is crazy.
If it takes a superbowl to make a player an all time great I guess players like Jim Kelly, Barry Sanders, Warren Moon, Marino and Peyton Manning (after this week) all stink. A ring does not make a player this is not tennis, golf or boxing it is a team game. Players have great games and sometimes the "team loses" not the player.
I can go on and on about all time greats in any sport who never won a championship. Just because someone wins a title doesnt make them a legend.

BTW Elway was a great player he had multiple 4th qrt comebacks. At the tail end of his career he was not as good but he was part of winning the SB's. His early career he was the man who just ran up against better teams. It is not his fault the defense gave up over 35 points a game.
Elway not overrated.
Farve I will stay out of. He beat my team to many times for me to say anything. The longer he stays the better it is for the Bears---GO OLD FARVE!

[Salem]

I gotta go with Joey Harrington and Pennington. Every damn year ESPN and FSN hype up how great Harrington's year is "gonna" be. He has year in and year consistanlty sucked ass. Why any1 has given this ass clown a chance again is beyond me. Pennington, what is this his first complete season without missing more than 9 games? What has he won? Where has he lead his team? Now I may be a little off here but isnt this the same guy who has had shoulder/elbow sugury what seems liek every year since he was drafted? How can JETS fans put any faith into this guy? Why is it that he tosses a lame duck on passes over 45 yds and every1 thinks hes got a "laser, rocket arm, if you like that kinda thing"? The guy has nothing but a hospital record and thats it. I dont see the mdeia hyping Eli nearly as much as they used to so I think they have finally given up on him. Vick on the other hand is just a media whore. The guy cant keep his mouth shut about coaches or water bottles. Atalnta would be better off with thier BU seeing as though when Vick went down 2 years ago that kid was not bad at all for a rook. I want to nominate one guy who was spoken highly of in his time and I could never understand why, Jeff George. Discuss.

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

I gotta go with Joey Harrington and Pennington. Every damn year ESPN and FSN hype up how great Harrington's year is "gonna" be. He has year in and year consistanlty sucked ass. Why any1 has given this ass clown a chance again is beyond me. Pennington, what is this his first complete season without missing more than 9 games? What has he won? Where has he lead his team? Now I may be a little off here but isnt this the same guy who has had shoulder/elbow sugury what seems liek every year since he was drafted? How can JETS fans put any faith into this guy? Why is it that he tosses a lame duck on passes over 45 yds and every1 thinks hes got a "laser, rocket arm, if you like that kinda thing"? The guy has nothing but a hospital record and thats it. I dont see the mdeia hyping Eli nearly as much as they used to so I think they have finally given up on him. Vick on the other hand is just a media whore. The guy cant keep his mouth shut about coaches or water bottles. Atalnta would be better off with thier BU seeing as though when Vick went down 2 years ago that kid was not bad at all for a rook. I want to nominate one guy who was spoken highly of in his time and I could never understand why, Jeff George. Discuss.
No one compares these guys to the best in the league or even with the all time greats. Pennnington is a nice QB and Harrington is a bust b/c of his draft pick. Overrated is being considered an all time great which neither one of these guys is even close to sniffing.

[Save My Up's Dick]

Ok he is up there with Mark Rypien, Doug Williams and Trent Dilfer and you would rather have them instead of Marino. Ok here is what you dont understand 1 player does not make a Superbowl team. 1 good game by a player does not make a career. It is the body of work Namaths career
http://www.databasefootball.com/players/playerpage.htm?ilkid=NamatJoe01
No I am not stat boy but to compare namath to Legends is crazy.
If it takes a superbowl to make a player an all time great I guess players like Jim Kelly, Barry Sanders, Warren Moon, Marino and Peyton Manning (after this week) all stink. A ring does not make a player this is not tennis, golf or boxing it is a team game. Players have great games and sometimes the "team loses" not the player.
I can go on and on about all time greats in any sport who never won a championship. Just because someone wins a title doesnt make them a legend.

BTW Elway was a great player he had multiple 4th qrt comebacks. At the tail end of his career he was not as good but he was part of winning the SB's. His early career he was the man who just ran up against better teams. It is not his fault the defense gave up over 35 points a game.
Elway not overrated.
Farve I will stay out of. He beat my team to many times for me to say anything. The longer he stays the better it is for the Bears---GO OLD FARVE!
No, I'm not defending Doug Williams or Trent Dilfer. I'm defending Namath as an overrated QB.
I never said he's an all time great, I'm saying there are many OVERRATED QB's out there, Namath is not one of them.

Name me any other athlete who guaranteed their team would win the championship game and delivered? And YES I'm basing Namath NOT being overrated on one game, the biggest and toughest game to win...Sorry Bro, he delivered a guaranteed Superbowl win. That's why people compare him to legends, not his shitty stats.

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

No, I'm not defending Doug Williams or Trent Dilfer. I'm defending Namath as an overrated QB.
I never said he's an all time great, I'm saying there are many OVERRATED QB's out there, Namath is not one of them.

Name me any other athlete who guaranteed their team would win the championship game and delivered? And YES I'm basing Namath NOT being overrated on one game, the biggest and toughest game to win...Sorry Bro, he delivered a guaranteed Superbowl win. That's why people compare him to legends, not his shitty stats.
1 game does not make you a Legend. Overrated for his career stats is ll i have to see.
Career
173 TD's
220 INT's

50% completion percentage

Highest QB rating ever was 74.

All time legend NO WAY

[Save My Up's Dick]

1 game does not make you a Legend. Overrated for his career stats is ll i have to see.
Career
173 TD's
220 INT's

50% completion percentage

Highest QB rating ever was 74.

All time legend NO WAY
(Remember what I said you can do with stats. :action-sm )

Great...Now you can change this thread from "Most overrated QB of all time" to "QB's that are not all time legends who have won a superbowl" :action-sm

You can't base a career on stats alone. You have to take into account how many rings a player has.

One game makes you a legend if you guarantee a Superbowl victory...only one guy has, that's why he's a legend.

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

(Remember what I said you can do with stats. :action-sm )

Great...Now you can change this thread from "Most overrated QB of all time" to "QB's that are not all time legends who have won a superbowl" :action-sm

You can't base a career on stats alone. You have to take into account how many rings a player has.

One game makes you a legend if you guarantee a Superbowl victory...only one guy has, that's why he's a legend.
Ok your right.
OVERRATED look at the stats like I said one game doesnt make you a legend no matter how much someone runs their mouth. Numbers are numbers and his stink.
The only reason you would take Namath over Marino is becuase your a Jets fan and you hate the Fish. Take your emotions out of it and look at the numbers. Not an all time great sorry.
By the way I did what you said and I just took the stats out of Namaths ass---i did have to cut up the panty hose he was wearing :action-sm

[sd187]

browning nagel. nothing? nothing.

[Save My Up's Dick]

Ok your right.
OVERRATED look at the stats like I said one game doesnt make you a legend no matter how much someone runs their mouth. Numbers are numbers and his stink.
The only reason you would take Namath over Marino is becuase your a Jets fan and you hate the Fish. Take your emotions out of it and look at the numbers. Not an all time great sorry.
By the way I did what you said and I just took the stats out of Namaths ass---i did have to cut up the panty hose he was wearing :action-sm
Haha, Yes I like the Jets (and Giants, I know, I shouldn't) but I've always been a football fan first. I would still take Namath's career over Marino's because he won a superbowl, that's it...ok and for all pussy he got. :icon_bigg If I had to take a QB for "my team", yeah, Marino.

As I said, his stats sucked, he's only a legend for guaranteeing a Superbowl win. And it was only because of the whole AFL vs. NFL that made it legendary. There are a handful of guys that won one Superbowl but are no way legends. Namath was in the right place at the right time and he had the right personality. Plus he played in New York.

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

Haha, Yes I like the Jets (and Giants, I know, I shouldn't) but I've always been a football fan first. I would still take Namath's career over Marino's because he won a superbowl, that's it...ok and for all pussy he got. :icon_bigg If I had to take a QB for "my team", yeah, Marino.

As I said, his stats sucked, he's only a legend for guaranteeing a Superbowl win. And it was only because of the whole AFL vs. NFL that made it legendary. There are a handful of guys that won one Superbowl but are no way legends. Namath was in the right place at the right time and he had the right personality. Plus he played in New York.
Ok no we are getting somewhere
Natmath is immortalized as a hero to Jets fans which is OK but when we are talking about greatest QBs of all time Namath should not be involved in it and Stats prove it but people love to put him there. Right place right time he helped win the game. He is overrated as a QB 1 big game doesnt make a career.
If you have NFL network Superbowl 3 will be on at 8pm eastern.

[Save My Up's Dick]

Ok no we are getting somewhere
Natmath is immortalized as a hero to Jets fans which is OK but when we are talking about greatest QBs of all time Namath should not be involved in it and Stats prove it but people love to put him there. Right place right time he helped win the game. He is overrated as a QB 1 big game doesnt make a career.
If you have NFL network Superbowl 3 will be on at 8pm eastern.
Gotta say your wrong with Namath, one game made his career. His whole career is based on that game. Dilfer, Hostetler, Williams, nobody cares or even remembers that they won a superbowl, except for the fans of that team.
let's put it this way, you can't be "overrated" if you did what he did. Guaranteeing, winning and being named Superbowl MVP.

Overrated regular season QB...meh, ok, nobody, except for you:rolleyes: , will remember him for that. He also did play in the 60's and 70's when they didn't protect the QB like they do today.

Fuck, time warner sucks, 800 fucking channels and no NFL network, but thanks :action-sm

[Save My Up's Dick]

Here's a Namath stat for you;

Namath is the only QB to throw for 4,000 yards in a 14 game season.

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

I got a better stat for you. He had more interceptions than td's that season.'
'86 Dan Marino 14 games 4081
'99 Kurt Warner 14 games 4205
'04 P Manning 14 games 4031

Just to name a few I can go on would you like
Oh yea all these guys had more TD's than Interceptions :action-sm

[Dopie Opie]

browning nagel. nothing? nothing.

Thank you very much for reminding me of forgotten horrors. Blair Thomas, Glen Foley.....Geeze.... Remember when Johnny Hector was our go to guy.

We had some real shit for years. That is why you have to give Parcells a ton of credit for rebuilding the franchise. He may have not won the big one with us (thanks to Testaverde get hurt on the first drive of the year) but he did change our expectations and attitude.

Fucking Browning Nagle....FUCK - I am never going to be able to sleep tonight.

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

Well at least they drafted Ken O'Brien instead of Marino that should make up for that pick

[Sinn Fein]

The Great QB Draft of modern times....

Tim Couch : Out of the League
Donovan McNabb : Superbowl Appearance. Huge winning record since drafted.
Akili Smith : Out of the League - Fast
Cade McNown : Out of the League - Fast
Dante Culpepper : Benching it in Miami
Sinn Fein : Not Drafted !

I think that sums it up !

McNabb had a Superbowl appearance because A.J. Feeley got them there.

[Dopie Opie]

Well at least they drafted Ken O'Brien instead of Marino that should make up for that pick
If Ken O'Brien had an offensive line and a head coach other than Joe Walton, He would have won a Super Bowl. He was talented and that motherfucker could take a beating. They had a defense back then and they had some nice tools on offense, just no line to speak of.

And don't forget 27 other teams at the time passed on Marino as well.

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

And don't forget 27 other teams at the time passed on Marino as well.
Your right but 27 other teams didnt get their heart broken time after time.

[Save My Up's Dick]

I got a better stat for you. He had more interceptions than td's that season.'
'86 Dan Marino 14 games 4081
'99 Kurt Warner 14 games 4205
'04 P Manning 14 games 4031

Just to name a few I can go on would you like
Oh yea all these guys had more TD's than Interceptions :action-sm
So he's "overrated" for being one of 4 (I'm sure there's more) great QB's in the 80's 90's and 2000?? They all played a 16 game season in a much different era.
How about the QB's in his era, that answer would be umm....NONE

Again, Marino...no ring, never lead his team to a championship.

[highway23]

What about Jake Delhomme?

Jesus he's a fucking ass-clown.

Hyped up, shit they were picked by SI to win the fucking superbowl...and he's got one of the top receivers! He's a turd.

I don't see how anyone can say that Favre is overrated. He's got the rings, MVP, a hell of a canon, and hasn't missed a fucking game. If you say he's overrated...I just don't get it...

[DonTheTrucker]

I don't see how anyone can say that Favre is overrated. He's got the rings, MVP, a hell of a canon, and hasn't missed a fucking game. If you say he's overrated...I just don't get it...

I hate the Packers but Favre is one of top 5 to ever play the position. He's up there with Marino and Elway. My top 5 would probably be

Marino
Montana
Elway
Favre
Steve Young

Manning will probably take Young's spot if he can win this big one.

[sd187]

Thank you very much for reminding me of forgotten horrors. Blair Thomas, Glen Foley.....Geeze.... Remember when Johnny Hector was our go to guy.

We had some real shit for years. That is why you have to give Parcells a ton of credit for rebuilding the franchise. He may have not won the big one with us (thanks to Testaverde get hurt on the first drive of the year) but he did change our expectations and attitude.

Fucking Browning Nagle....FUCK - I am never going to be able to sleep tonight.

you forget about roger vick.

parcell's drafted pennington, coles, sean ellis also i believe

[Jimmy's Dignity]

What about Jake Delhomme?Funniest fucking #1 pick ever in Fantasy Football. My buddy was hungover as dirt, had 3rd overall pick, and that was the only name he could come up with

[ceeps04]

Tony Romo. This motherfucker was glorified the whole fucking second half of the year as the greatest thing ever. I saw an NBC promo for the Christmas day game and it basically said you should watch because (dramatic music) THE EAGLES....THE COWBOYS....AND TONY ROMO.

Yeeeeaacchh. Not one of the most overated qbs of all time, but for a 4 week period he was annointed way too fast. Going into that second Giants game in December you would have sworn that he was a god and no longer human.

Hey Tony, here's an idea. Wipe Carrie Underwoods cunt juice off your hands before you try to hold again.

[ih8Uboo-boo]

McNabb had a Superbowl appearance because A.J. Feeley got them there.

Dude, Donovan was healthy the whole year in 2004. A.J. was in Miami the Super Bowl Season...

edit: Locally, I don't think that McNabb is overrated, they're pretty tough on him. I do think that they tend to overrate him nationally though. IMO, Rand-Doll was waaaaaaaaay more overrated than Mcnabb. He was on some pretty good teams, yet only won 3 playoff games in his entire career, granted some of that was Buddy's fault, because he couldn't gameplan woth a crap. But he did play another 10 seasons (1991 don't count b/c of injury)

[BlackNinja]

jim kelly? how do you not win with that team? his stats were good cause he had half the pro bowl on his team

[ih8Uboo-boo]

jim kelly? how do you not win with that team? his stats were good cause he had half the pro bowl on his team

I disagree about Kelly.

He got to 4 super bowls in a row.
He had them in a position to win in '90 against the Giants, Norwood just missed the kick...

In the other 3, he ran into some of the best teams ever in the '91 Skins, and '92 - '93 Cowboys. And were blown out in each of them. The "closest" game of the 3 was 14 points... They were clearly the best team in a bad AFC at that time.

[Kyle]

McNabb had a Superbowl appearance because A.J. Feeley got them there.

Couldn't be more wrong. Donovan was healthy the whole '04 season. In fact, he was easily the MVP of that team, with all respect to Westbrook.

And how can you say he's overrated. it's not like people argue he's one of the best of all time like a Marino or Manning.

When people talk about Donovan, they say he's very good who MAY be on the path to the Hall of Fame (statistically) contingent on if he wins a Super Bowl.

That's seems a pretty accurate portrayal to me.

[DonTheTrucker]

Hey Tony, here's an idea. Wipe Carrie Underwoods cunt juice off your hands before you try to hold again.

If he banged Carrie Underwood, he truly is the greatest of all time.