Sox to get Helton?

[Salem]

"The Denver Post reported on its Web site that the Rockies could be interested in a pair of pitching prospects, reliever Manny Delcarmen, 24, and 2005 first-round pick Craig Hansen. The Rocky Mountain News reported that the Red Sox proposed sending third baseman Mike Lowell and right-hander Julian Tavarez. ESPN.com reported that Sox veteran pitcher Matt Clement would have to be included. FoxSports.com identified Triple-A center fielder Jacoby Ellsbury as a target of the Rockies."

I dont like the idea of letting BOTH Delcarmen and Hansen go but one or the other is ok with me. WTF are we doing with Tavarez still? Can't we trade him for some hot dogs or somthing? Tavarez just sucks. Hes taking up a usefull spot on the roster. Give him away for a draft pick or somthing useless. Lowell as decent as he has played for us he doesnt have many numbers or years in him anymore. There is also some talk about them to pick up Bard. I dont think he is eligble because he hasnt been with us long. He may be a "Player to be named later" kinda deal and ship him out in June.

[Cybouncer]

They would have a hard time getting a bag of used balls for Tavarez.

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

Dishes are done maaaaaannnn


DENVER -- Rockies owner Charlie Monfort insisted the team was not going to just give Todd Helton away for nothing, and now it looks like trade talks between Colorado and the Boston Red Sox have ended.

"This is not a trade that we were anxious to complete, but we are always exploring ways to improve our team," Monfort said in a statement. "Discussions like these regarding a player of Todd's talent and character are never easy, and it's not surprising we were not able to reach an agreement. Todd has been and will continue to be an important part of our franchise, and we can't wait to see him with the rest of the Rockies in Tucson."



Monfort said the Red Sox would have had to part with pitching prospects in addition to third baseman Mike Lowell and reliever Julian Tavarez, players they'd already offered in exchange for the 33-year-old slugger.

"This is Todd Helton we're talking about," Monfort told The Associated Press on Monday. "We're not just going to give him up for nothing."

In return, the Rockies were looking to obtain promising relievers Craig Hansen and Manny Delcarmen from Boston.

Monfort didn't return a call to The AP seeking comment Monday night on why the talks were terminated.

"We won't have any comment on the situation," said Red Sox spokesman John Blake said Monday night.




Colorado would have paid a good chunk of the $90.1 million left on Helton's contract, a deal that includes salaries of $16.6 million in each of the next four seasons, $19.1 million in 2011 and a $4.6 million buyout of a $23 million team option for 2012. The amount the Rockies would pay wasn't a sticking point in talks, Monfort said. Rather, it was the players Colorado coveted in return for the Rockies' most recognizable player.

Helton has a no-trade clause but was willing to waive it to play in Boston.

"I've been in this business for 15 years and 1 percent of these deals get done. We want to do right by Todd," Monfort said. "We're planning on winning the division and we'd rather do it with Todd."

Although the savings would allow the Rockies to address other areas, Monfort said he's not solely seeking financial flexibility in dangling Helton.




"We're not just looking to save money," he said. "I'd consider it a salary dump if we didn't have anybody there who could play first base, and we do. I'm not saying they're Todd Helton by any means. And they'd have some huge shoes to fill. But we have some guys there, a little bit of a logjam."


"This is Todd Helton we're talking about. We're not just going to give him up for nothing."
-- Rockies owner Charlie Monfort
Monfort said he realizes fans don't want to see Helton and the Rockies part ways, and he doesn't relish that prospect, either.

"It would be so tough to see Todd go. We drafted him. He's a great guy, he has a ranch 15 minutes from my house," Monfort said. "This one is tough. We had Vinny Castilla and Andres Galarraga, but they weren't with us as long as Todd. And Todd's a friend of mine.

"We're not doing cartwheels over here at Coors Field over this, believe me."



After averaging 35 homers and 117 RBIs over the previous seven seasons, Helton's numbers dipped in 2005, when he hit .320 with 20 homers and 79 RBIs while he was playing with a bad back. He also made his first career trip to the disabled list with a strained calf.

An intestinal infection sent him to the DL again last May and he never regained his strength, weight or power stroke upon his return, finishing with just 15 homers, a .302 batting average and 81 RBIs.

Helton said recently he had finally gotten back to 210 pounds and that his strength and stamina had returned. The Red Sox were encouraged by his clean bill of health.

While Monfort said tying up 30 percent of the team's projected $55 million payroll this season isn't a good business model, he wouldn't mind seeing a healthy Helton batting cleanup for Colorado in 2007, either.

"We'd love to have Todd here and get to a World Series with Todd in a Rockies uniform and we believe we can get there," Monfort said. "It's not like a couple of years ago when we were just plugging holes. We feel we can win this division and that makes this a little more difficult."

Information from the Associated Press was used in this report.

[YUCK FOU]

yeah so now this means the fucking yankees will swoop in and pick his ass up since the sox fucked it up....ima diehard sox fan and i cant stand that they fuck up to many trades etc over stupid shit!

[LilJimmyRbinson]

yeah so now this means the fucking yankees will swoop in and pick his ass up since the sox fucked it up....ima diehard sox fan and i cant stand that they fuck up to many trades etc over stupid shit!

Yanks have enough 1b/DH guys so don't worry about that. Besides, he's over the hill. You should be happy they didn't get him. Getting him would also enhance the truth that the Sox have now become the new Yankees, simply buying players.

[J. PETERSON]

I have mixed feelings on this. Like i said in the Sox thread, if this was 4 years ago, i'd be [mike tyson] essstatic [/mike tyson].
I know Helton's still got some go left in him, but he's def not as solid as he used to be. ALTHOUGH, the Rox were going to pick up half his contract, which for someone with a .333 lifetime avg (even though it's Colorado), is a pretty decent deal.
So I guess I'm kind of bummed :(