2007 Chicago Cubs season

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

I am ready for spring training.
If you never have been to Spring Training games before you miss out on a lot. You see your rookies play and your feelings for the season are sky high.

For what anyone says about Cubs filling the stadium because it is an attraction that is BS. Us Cub fans are too loyal we live and die with our team and want to see them win or lose. If it was about the stadium spring training would be empty which is not the case Mesa is packed with fans. The Tribune makes cash with the Cubs and never puts it into the right players hopefully the continue the spending and let us get a return for our investment.

Am I as high as i was the last 3 years...NO but maybe that is a good thing because if things dont happen so be it another year of the same non-sense but if things break right it could be a really positive year. Look at the Cardinals last year not the greatest season but they won.

My hope for the season:
1- Mark Cuban buys the Cubs
2- Everyone stays healthy
3- Make a playoff run in a terrible Division and terrible National League where NO team is going to run away from it.
4- Sweet Lou can change what Dusty lacked.
5- Resign Zambrano long term.

[Absolutely]

As a Cardinals fan, I've gotta admit I'm a little scared of the Cubs this year.
Compartively, I think the Cubs are a better team "On paper"

Position vs Position I'd give the nod to the Cubs everywhere but 1B and 3B
Rolen vs Ramirez is tough though, last three season since Aramis has really come on he's averaged 35hrs 104rbis batted .303. Rolen the same 3 years has28hrs 107rbis and batted .299, but I think Rolen's D puts him over a little.
1B, you have to go Pujols no matter what.

Derosa had a good year last year, but before that he was nothing special. So to me, Cedeno/Derosa vs. Kennedy/Eckstein is a toss up.

Outfield, Jones and Encarnacion are close in stats. But to me they're both average to above.
I think the Card's Chris Duncan is going to be a monster, and who knows about Jim Edmonds whether he will play enough games but he can still run down balls better than Soriano if he ends up in CF.
Cliff Floyd doesn't scare me either.

Catching, Barrett is a much better hitter. Yadier is better defensively and throwing, but I'd take a hitting catcher anyday. Barrett only had 4 more RBIS than Yadi though.

Pitching wise, if Prior is alright the whole year.. him and Zambrano aint bad.
The Cardinals pitching COULD be good with Carpenter and the potential of Adam Wainwright and Anthony Reyes, but we have no 4 and 5 guy.

I say the division will be close, either the Cards or the Cubs. The winner taking it by 2-3 games.

That's what I say.

[tar_baby]

maybe u guys can make it to the world series after alllll these years...and then lose...u can make it a repeat performance of ur football team

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

maybe u guys can make it to the world series after alllll these years...and then lose...u can make it a repeat performance of ur football team
funny

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

As a Cardinals fan, I've gotta admit I'm a little scared of the Cubs this year.
Compartively, I think the Cubs are a better team "On paper"

Position vs Position I'd give the nod to the Cubs everywhere but 1B and 3B
Rolen vs Ramirez is tough though, last three season since Aramis has really come on he's averaged 35hrs 104rbis batted .303. Rolen the same 3 years has28hrs 107rbis and batted .299, but I think Rolen's D puts him over a little.
1B, you have to go Pujols no matter what.

Derosa had a good year last year, but before that he was nothing special. So to me, Cedeno/Derosa vs. Kennedy/Eckstein is a toss up.

Outfield, Jones and Encarnacion are close in stats. But to me they're both average to above.
I think the Card's Chris Duncan is going to be a monster, and who knows about Jim Edmonds whether he will play enough games but he can still run down balls better than Soriano if he ends up in CF.
Cliff Floyd doesn't scare me either.

Catching, Barrett is a much better hitter. Yadier is better defensively and throwing, but I'd take a hitting catcher anyday. Barrett only had 4 more RBIS than Yadi though.

Pitching wise, if Prior is alright the whole year.. him and Zambrano aint bad.
The Cardinals pitching COULD be good with Carpenter and the potential of Adam Wainwright and Anthony Reyes, but we have no 4 and 5 guy.

I say the division will be close, either the Cards or the Cubs. The winner taking it by 2-3 games.

That's what I say.
Go with that pujols is a monster and should hav been mvp for past 4 years but lee is no sucker
I was reading the projected 5th starter will be Looper....ouch
Eckstein is better than numbers . He is a catalyst on 2 WS teams wish the Cubs signed him

[Absolutely]

Go with that pujols is a monster and should hav been mvp for past 4 years but lee is no sucker
I was reading the projected 5th starter will be Looper....ouch
Eckstein is better than numbers . He is a catalyst on 2 WS teams wish the Cubs signed him

Yeah, the gap between Pujols and Lee isn't as big as it is on many other teams.
5th starter is not going to be Looper. That's some some insane Larussa's a mad genius talk.
It's going to be Narveson or Thompson or some other young guy. Maybe a trade will happen for like a Mark Redmond.

Either way it's Carpenter, Kip Wells ( Who can win 32 games and I'll still say stinks), and 3 rookies at this time.

Eckstein I know brings more than just numbers, but I hate his hobit look and that Rah-Rah sprint to first on a walk attitude for some reason. It gets old and annoying after 162 games of overachieving.

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

I would take him in a second but what do I know that is why i sell phone cards.

[Kid Brock]

maybe u guys can make it to the world series after alllll these years...and then lose...u can make it a repeat performance of ur football team


I can't keep up with you. What state is the baseball team you follow in? Somehow you are a Lions fan in football and a Knicks fan in basketball.................... wait a second I am worried about a person who likes the Lions and Knicks. Nevermind.

[J. PETERSON]

I can't keep up with you. What state is the baseball team you follow in? Somehow you are a Lions fan in football and a Knicks fan in basketball.................... wait a second I am worried about a person who likes the Lions and Knicks. Nevermind.
hahaha

I the Cubbies are looking great this year on paper.
Hopefully everyone will stay healthy.
Definitely the Cubs/Cards race is going to be one of the best in baseball.

[Joker]

I am ready for spring training.


For what anyone says about Cubs filling the stadium because it is an attraction that is BS. Us Cub fans are too loyal we live and die with our team and want to see them win or lose.

Did you see Wrigley last fall, pretty empty. Which really suprised me since they still had beer

[peopleselbow]

Cubs - bleech. :piss

I hate to see my most hated team get my favorite manager and one of my most favorite players. They are making the right moves and they are doing it because of the 2005 World Champs.

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

Cubs - bleech. :piss

I hate to see my most hated team get my favorite manager and one of my most favorite players. They are making the right moves and they are doing it because of the 2005 World Champs.
Ted Lily?

[jshep]

The scrubs stink!! Zambrano is.a ass or the big z as he called himself. The cards will always be there but what about the astros. I know our GM sucks and we have the worst defensive outfield in all of baseball but this is the nl central

[Kid Brock]

The scrubs stink!! Zambrano is.a ass or the big z as he called himself. The cards will always be there but what about the astros. I know our GM sucks and we have the worst defensive outfield in all of baseball but this is the nl central


Oh I get it, you are one of those "we" and "our" guys when it comes to the teams they root for. You think "you" are actually on the team, don't "you"?

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

he brings is glove to the game so yes

[Bodizapha]

^lol

Steve Stone, to any cub fan, the oracle of all things baseball...

Said that the Cubbies would win the world series this year. Thats all i needed to hear to start brewing blue and red kool-aide by the barrel.

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

^lol

Steve Stone, to any cub fan, the oracle of all things baseball...

Said that the Cubbies would win the world series this year. Thats all i needed to hear to start brewing blue and red kool-aide by the barrel.
Even after his falling out with the team....WOW

[disgustip8ed]

Absolutely

I don't think that the pitching is going to be as bad you think. Trust in Duncan. He's worked magic for the last ten years.

I think that the team is going to be better than last year (regular season wise). At least this year, the Redbirds have a clear cut infield and a good idea of an outfield.

Still, having a set rotation going into the spring would be nice, but thats what the spring is for.

Cards win the division by 3 . . . . over the Reds.

/born in StL and a cards fan since birth
//used to live 8 blocks from Busch stadium and remember a lot of very hot day games in the summer time when they still had the astroturf
///greatest baseball memory ever will be of seeing Willie McGee and Ozzie coming out to play in their last seasons of baseball . . . and seeing Ozzie do his flip one last time

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

Absolutely

I don't think that the pitching is going to be as bad you think. Trust in Duncan. He's worked magic for the last ten years.

I think that the team is going to be better than last year (regular season wise). At least this year, the Redbirds have a clear cut infield and a good idea of an outfield.

Still, having a set rotation going into the spring would be nice, but thats what the spring is for.

Cards win the division by 3 . . . . over the Reds.

/born in StL and a cards fan since birth
//used to live 8 blocks from Busch stadium and remember a lot of very hot day games in the summer time when they still had the astroturf
///greatest baseball memory ever will be of seeing Willie McGee and Ozzie coming out to play in their last seasons of baseball . . . and seeing Ozzie do his flip one last time
Wrong thread besides be realistic--yes duncan wroked magic but the staff just isnt that good. You cant make poo smell good.

[Vic Mackey]

Good luck with your pitching staff this year. The Cubs fucked up by overpaying Soriano and Lily, and I highly doubt they can afford to re-sign their ace Zambrano. That should have been more of priority this season, and will come back to bite them in the ass. But at least they can tell their fans they did something to justify the increase in ticket prices.

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

Good luck with your pitching staff this year. The Cubs fucked up by overpaying Soriano and Lily, and I highly doubt they can afford to re-sign their ace Zambrano. That should have been more of priority this season, and will come back to bite them in the ass. But at least they can tell their fans they did something to justify the increase in ticket prices.
The Cubs make more money than anyone in the league except the Yankees. The Tribune company makes money hand over fist.
1-Sell out or lose to sell out every year
2-They are their own ticket scalpers-they have a business up the street that sells tickets for 5 xs the worth
3-They own Superstation WGN which not only plays Cubs but Sox Rockies I beleive Dodger and some other team out west on stations they own. All revenue which should be put back into the team
4- The Cubs have the second highest fan base in the country behind the Yankees and if they could ever win a WS more people will become fans. This helps in concesssion sales.
5- The Cubs can easily go to the 150-175 area in payroll and still be safe to spend another 25 million
6- The cubs make more money during spring training than any other team in baseball. they easily make 30 million on the month.

[silentbob8201]

and yet according to Ron Bennington Wrigley Field is like a Beer Garden. which is such an odd statement that could be said about any fucking Ballpark. The man while normally i agree with really irks me whne he says that shit and should probably base stuff off experience of a game and not stuff he seen on said WGN Superstation its just not the same. also what do they call the shitbox the Sox play in now in the worst part of town?

[Vic Mackey]

The Cubs make more money than anyone in the league except the Yankees. The Tribune company makes money hand over fist.
1-Sell out or lose to sell out every year
2-They are their own ticket scalpers-they have a business up the street that sells tickets for 5 xs the worth
3-They own Superstation WGN which not only plays Cubs but Sox Rockies I beleive Dodger and some other team out west on stations they own. All revenue which should be put back into the team
4- The Cubs have the second highest fan base in the country behind the Yankees and if they could ever win a WS more people will become fans. This helps in concesssion sales.
5- The Cubs can easily go to the 150-175 area in payroll and still be safe to spend another 25 million
6- The cubs make more money during spring training than any other team in baseball. they easily make 30 million on the month.

Yet, they still need to make more by selling ads to UnderArmour on the outfield walls this year.

The ticket agency the Trib owns stills baffles and amazes me. But if people are willing to pay, let em pay.

[Kid Brock]

No arguement from me on the Trib selling the Cubbies. Jerry Colangelo is waiting in the wings when they are ready to part with them.

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

Yet, they still need to make more by selling ads to UnderArmour on the outfield walls this year.

The ticket agency the Trib owns stills baffles and amazes me. But if people are willing to pay, let em pay.
Just like the Yankees

[Vic Mackey]

also what do they call the shitbox the Sox play in now in the worst part of town?

that old gag. i've been going to Sox games since i was a kid, and have never been scared for my life. dont bitch about people calling wrigley a beer garden with a $40 cover charge and turn around and call us cellular a shitbox.

[peopleselbow]

that old gag. i've been going to Sox games since i was a kid, and have never been scared for my life. dont bitch about people calling wrigley a beer garden with a $40 cover charge and turn around and call us cellular a shitbox.

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

I HATE those faggots that say the Sox are in a bad neighborhood. Hell, I walked from De La Salle H.S. to the Cell last year. That's even safe now that the Taylor Homes have been knocked down. Chicago Police HQ is there now as well as new townhomes.

[Kid Brock]

As a Cubs fan I have no problem with US Cellular. Hell I am a suburb kid that wears Cubs jerseys to Sox games and have walked out alive on every occasion. It can get pretty nasty, but I can take it as well as I can give it out when it comes to sports rivals.

[Absolutely]

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/baseball/2010AP_BBN_Cubs_Wood_Hot_Tub.html

Thursday, February 15, 2007 · Last updated 1:34 p.m. PT

Kerry Wood hurt in fall from hot tub

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

MESA, Ariz. -- Oft-injured Kerry Wood is out again - this time because of a flub in a hot tub.

The Chicago Cubs pitcher is not expected to throw off the mound for a few days after he slipped this week getting out of a hot tub at home. Wood landed on his stomach and chest.

"It was just a little spill," Wood said Thursday. "I didn't think anything of it. Nothing's wrong. It's just going to be a few extra days. My arm feels great. My body feels good."

Wood said he probably would not have thrown off the mound until Friday had he not gotten hurt. He participated in most drills on Thursday when pitchers and catchers worked out for the first time.

Bothered by an injured right shoulder the past three seasons, Wood is being converted to a reliever after being limited to four starts last year.

For some reason in a seattle paper, title says "Kerry Wood hurt in fall from hot tub" then the article says he won't miss anytime really because of it.

I'd hate to see him go down for the season again......

Reminds me of one of my favorite Onion articles.
CHICAGO—Mark Prior, the right-handed pitcher who has spent the first few years of his career on the disabled list, is now considering accepting a recent two-year, $8 million offer from the DL that would keep him not playing through the 2008 season. "I couldn't even imagine the DL without Mark Prior—over the years, he has become the face, stiff right elbow, strained subscapularis muscle, and inflamed Achilles tendon of our organization," said Kirk Gibson, manager and longtime former member of the DL, which is currently rebuilding by claiming young arms such as Kerry Wood, Ben Sheets, and Mike Maroth. "We firmly believe that Mark's best injuries are still ahead of him." While Prior's agent says the pitcher is exploring his options, experts predict that it is "inevitable" that Prior will return to the DL and, with the loyalty he's shown in the past, likely finish his career there.
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/50033

[Vic Mackey]

I think that Kerry Wood and Mark Prior have lead the league in pitching simulated games for the past three years.

[Bodizapha]

The core fan base of the sox and the cubs are surrounded by bandwagon fence hoppers who sway to and fro, season to season.

Funny enough, the true die hard sox and cubs fans never attack those pussies. We lock horns with each other and lambast each other every spring, summer, and fall.

I enjoy the spirited ballbusting that comes from my friends who are sox fans, trust me that i give it right back. The only thing that pisses more off more then an educated sox fan, is the uneducated dolt wearing a black and white world series shirt.... that was drinking old style out of a plastic cup, sporting blue pinestripes, off waveland ave. when they cubbies made their world series push.

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

The core fan base of the sox and the cubs are surrounded by bandwagon fence hoppers who sway to and fro, season to season.

Funny enough, the true die hard sox and cubs fans never attack those pussies. We lock horns with each other and lambast each other every spring, summer, and fall.

I enjoy the spirited ballbusting that comes from my friends who are sox fans, trust me that i give it right back. The only thing that pisses more off more then an educated sox fan, is the uneducated dolt wearing a black and white world series shirt.... that was drinking old style out of a plastic cup, sporting blue pinestripes, off waveland ave. when they cubbies made their world series push.
Sounds like Mets fans the bandwagon part. I am glad it is next year because my whitty comeback is at least the Sox didnt win it last year.

[peopleselbow]

Is Jeff Samardzija scheduled tp pitch for the Cubs this year or are they just looking at him during spring training?

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

Is Jeff Samardzija scheduled tp pitch for the Cubs this year or are they just looking at him during spring training?
Spring Training he wont be up for at least 2 years unless the Cubbies crap the bed like every other season he will be up in September.

[Kid Brock]

Any other South West Pests/Cubs fans. I am definitely driving down for spring training this year.

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

Done!

[peopleselbow]

Any other South West Pests/Cubs fans. I am definitely driving down for spring training this year.

Don't forget to drive to Tuscon to see Ozzie and crew! :action-sm

[Kid Brock]

Don't forget to drive to Tuscon to see Ozzie and crew! :action-sm



You son of a bitch!

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

Is he a Carlos Zambrano or a Jeff Pico?
right now i dont care i am excited.
PHOENIX -- It's very rare for a Minor League pitcher to get a standing ovation after one inning in a Cactus League game, but Jeff Samardzija isn't an ordinary pitcher.
The former Notre Dame wide receiver threw eight pitches for the Cubs in one inning of relief in a 5-5 tie Saturday against Oakland, and got the ovation from fans behind the visitor's dugout at Phoenix Municipal Stadium after his spring debut.

"That was impressive," Cubs manager Lou Piniella said of the right-hander. "You can tell that this young man has played in front of 80,000 fans before. This crowd didn't bother him at all. He faced the middle of this Oakland lineup, he went right after [Eric] Chavez and a couple other left-handed hitters, and I think he was having fun out there, which is really important. It's going to be exciting for him."

Chavez flew out to center on the first pitch from Samardzija leading off the sixth. Mark Ellis then fell behind, 0-2, before working the count full and grounding out. Ellis broke his bat in the process, and so did Travis Buck, who connected on the first pitch. But Buck grounded out, with Samardzija fielding the large end of the bat.

"I didn't know where that thing was going," Samardzija said of the broken bat. "I just stuck my glove up and made sure it didn't hit me in the chest."

Was it like catching a football?

"Nah, not even close," he said. "I don't catch those any more."

He may have played in front of large crowds at football games, but even Samardzija was a little antsy. His fastball was clocked at 94-98 mph, and averaged 97 mph.

"I was wondering how it was going to be with emotions going and everything," Samardzija said. "It was good, it was everything I wanted."

The Cubs had him in the bullpen for the first two games so he could get a feel for things.

"We made sure we were pitching him with a team wearing green so he feels nice and comfortable," Piniella said.

Samardzija looked like a natural in Cubs blue.

"This is the first of anything," Samardzija said. "You want to get out there, get your shot, and work through it. It was nice to get out there. It was real good to throw some early strikes, which used to do me in."

But pitching in front of a standing room only crowd of 10,074 in Phoenix in March is different from playing in a major college bowl game.

"You're not behind equipment and you're in the middle of a diamond," he said. "Either or, it doesn't hurt to get chances to play in front of a lot of people. You've got to have fun with it."

Nerves are to be expected. Sean Gallagher admitted that his legs were shaking when he was on the mound Friday.

"Sometimes that nervous energy is good, and sometimes it's not as good," Piniella said. "[Gallagher] had a little adrenaline and threw like a veteran pitcher. A couple other kids we've thrown have tightened up a little bit, and quit thinking and started throwing, and they got hit pretty good. Invariably, they all have to go through that. Once they're out there a few times, obviously they get better."

[Kid Brock]

Well Prior got knocked around a little yesterday, but he walked off with no injuries. Got to start somewhere with him I guess.

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

Not to promising
fastball high around 88

Wood looks much smaller but he is still throwing 95-96.
Would work out great if he could close.

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

Went down to Fitch Field today Cubs training facility and i seen the minor Leaguers playing and Ryno is coaching single A team. Since he is my favorite player in any sport of all time I was pretty excited to see him. I was 10 feet from him at the batting cages. Anyways they were done with practice and he walked out and a few people had things for him to sign. I was pissed b/c i didnt have my camera but I did get an autograph. Seeing a childhood hero of mine was pretty cool. I am going to try and get back tomorrow and see if he would sign a ball. I will take a picture as well.

[kidohio]

i know this is a cubs thread, but i was wondering if you guys know who was the pitcher for tampa bay in either 99 or 00 broke his arm halfway through his roatation if you remeber his name pm me with it

[Kid Brock]

i know this is a cubs thread, but i was wondering if you guys know who was the pitcher for tampa bay in either 99 or 00 broke his arm halfway through his roatation if you remeber his name pm me with it


You have been pm'd.

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

Spring Training
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/dweryzynski/Soriano.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/dweryzynski/BattingPractice3.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/dweryzynski/BattingPractice.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/dweryzynski/SorianoOutfield.jpg

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

Ronny Woo-Woo
no that is not me.
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f192/dweryzynski/RonnyWooWoo.jpg

[Vic Mackey]

How did Ronny Woo-Woo get down there, hitch hike?

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

How did Ronny Woo-Woo get down there, hitch hike?
He is here every year.

[Kid Brock]

Going to the last 2 preseason games here in Vegas this weekend against the Mariners. I fully expect to see most the starters in Fridays game and then all the young nobodies on Saturday.

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

Have fun.

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

nm__KgTgsR8

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

Here We Go.

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

Adam Dunn always does this to the cubs

[Kid Brock]

Cubs drop the 1st game every damn season in Cincy. Adam Dunn looks like Will Ferrell anyway.

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

Cubs drop the 1st game every damn season in Cincy. Adam Dunn looks like Will Ferrell anyway.
QFT

[Hoagie]

Not a real good start. Zambrano was not good but he's has games like that so I wouldn't panic about that. But this undisciplined hacking at the plate with runners on is what worries me. Dusty Baker didn't put a stop to it and I was hoping Piniella would. Swinging at bad pitches while ahead in the count with runners on is just not going to win games.

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

Cubbies looking good today. Zambrano looking good as well.

[MAV]

Cubs Win Hooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooly Cow

[maxeypad]

totally kicking ass against the stros

[Hoagie]

It doesn't matter how much money they spend or who they get. It's the same ol' Cubs. Either their pitching tanks it and they score 5 runs to lose 7-5 or the pitching is brilliant and they can't score and lose 2-1 it all ends the same. A loss. Maybe it's still too early to think this will be the case all year but after seeing it year after fucking year, it's hard to believe that anything else will be the case.

There is still a chance we could play a big part in the playoff race. But I'm not sure when we play the Phillies. Cause if there's one thing that cures a team that can't win....it's a series against the Cubs.

[Kid Brock]

It is hard to fathom for me sitting here in Las Vegas where it has been in the 80's for 3 weeks that today's Cubs game is canceled because of snow.

[Hoagie]

The Cubs played 8 good innings today. And one of the worst I've even seen or heard. Piniella is supposed to be good at managing the bullpen...or so I heard. But he reminded me of Dusty Baker watching his starting pitcher load the bases and bringing in Kyle Farnsworth with all his control problems when he brought in Ohman who is also known to be a slow starter. We all know Zambrano can collapse at any moment, even when he's pitching a brilliant game. I'll give Piniella a pass on not having someone up as soon as Zambrano started to struggle because he may not be fully aware of how Zambrano can be. But it was just stupid to put a guy who has a history of being shaky when he first comes in instead of Wuertz, who has been a really solid middle reliever the last couple years an struck out all 3 batters in 11 pitches when he finally did come in. I wonder how long Piniella's leash is.

It just really sucks having to listen to poor Ron Santo suffer through these fucking games.

[Kid Brock]

Maybe Pinella blowing up after yesterdays game helped or just maybe Rich Hill is the true stud on this team this year.

[Hoagie]

They had to come back with something after that embarassment. This team is really better then they've been playing.

[Kid Brock]

Well a 7-0 win will definitly put me in a better frame of mind for my 1st OnA live event tonight here in Sin City.

[StephenMcTowely]

Cubs pacing for 67 wins

Seems about right


Great first month Alfonso, really earning that paycheck

[Kid Brock]

Cubs pacing for 67 wins

Seems about right


Great first month Alfonso, really earning that paycheck


Looks like someone finally figured out how to use a different IP address. I am actually shocked it took you this long to come trolling back. Now go away.

[Hoagie]

Looks like someone finally figured out how to use a different IP address. I am actually shocked it took you this long to come trolling back. Now go away.He's gone.

I gotta say the team has been playing better of late and it's not really been their fault. They just can't catch a break. They won 3 in a row and had a chance to sweep the Cards and Josh Hancock does his best Harry Chapin impression and the game gets cancelled. They drop a tough one to the Pirates who have been hot lately. Then come back the next day to put together a 2out, 4 run rally in the top of the 7th to take the lead only to have the game suspended by rain. So they lose all the momentum they got from that. Hopefully they can hold that lead tonight and finish the game and win the scheduled game and take 2 out of 3.

[Kid Brock]

He's gone.

I gotta say the team has been playing better of late and it's not really been their fault. They just can't catch a break. They won 3 in a row and had a chance to sweep the Cards and Josh Hancock does his best Harry Chapin impression and the game gets cancelled. They drop a tough one to the Pirates who have been hot lately. Then come back the next day to put together a 2out, 4 run rally in the top of the 7th to take the lead only to have the game suspended by rain. So they lose all the momentum they got from that. Hopefully they can hold that lead tonight and finish the game and win the scheduled game and take 2 out of 3.


Suspended game starts in only an hour. They absolutely would of swept the Cardinals since Kip Wells was toeing the mound against Rich Hill that day.

[disgustip8ed]

stupid cubs.

I hate having my team in last place. Now I know what its like to be a cubbie fan (with the exception that the Cards have a whole lot more trophies and happy memories).

[Kid Brock]

stupid cubs.

I hate having my team in last place. Now I know what its like to be a cubbie fan (with the exception that the Cards have a whole lot more trophies and happy memories).


You are from that rough and tumble Connecticut Cards fan-base? Ooh scary.

By the way Soriano is up over .300 and has homered in consecutive games. I think he feels much more comfortable in LF as opposed to CF and will show at the plate.

[maxeypad]

the entire NL Central fukking blows this year....i think the brewers are actually going to win it.....oh my god....thats HORRID...and what the hell happened to St. Louis?!?!?! i know they lost a pitcher...but jesus....they suck

[Hoagie]

stupid cubs.

I hate having my team in last place. Now I know what its like to be a cubbie fan (with the exception that the Cards have a whole lot more trophies and happy memories).And dead pitchers. Don't forget the dead pitchers.

2 out of 3 from the Pirates and 5 of their last 6 (it would have been 6 of their last 7 if the Cards had hired a drving coach) and the Cubs are climbing back into this thing. Soriano is heating up, Lee is getting his power back, and the bullpen seems to be stabilizing. Now if Milwaukee would just shit the bed, the Cubs would be in real nice shape.

[maxeypad]

Now if Milwaukee would just shit the bed, the Cubs would be in real nice shape.

i hope they do as well....i bet by the all star break or after they will

[Kid Brock]

Nice job weathering the 4 runs the Nats put up in the first. Soriano 13 game hit streak and has reached base in every game this season.

[Hoagie]

Zambrano's inconsistent pitching is starting to be a little worry-some. He's had enough starts that he usually puts it together by now. But the bats are getting hot and the clutch hitting is finally coming through. And the bullpen did a good job holding a narrow lead today.

[Kid Brock]

Nice to see Jacque Jones playing well. That is just bonus right there. Theriot draws 3 walks batting in front of Lee and Ram.

[Hoagie]

I don't know how he's getting walked so often. Derrick Lee is the absolute last person in MLB that you want to walk someone in front of right now.

[Kid Brock]

Finally a late inning come-back and a 1 run victory. Theriot is becoming Pinella's go to guy and for good reason. Ronny Cedeno was sent down to make room for Guzman (whodeserved a win yesterday).

[Hoagie]

That kinda sucks for Cedeno. I think he should stay up with the team. But a good job completing that sweep. They had to do it the hard way. But if they're gonna make the playoffs, they gotta beat the bad team as often as possible.

[Kid Brock]

That kinda sucks for Cedeno. I think he should stay up with the team. But a good job completing that sweep. They had to do it the hard way. But if they're gonna make the playoffs, they gotta beat the bad team as often as possible.


By the end of the season I think Ronny is back up and Ceasar is done. I don't think Lou likes him that much and Theriot is making them both expendable.

By the way nice 2 person thread we have going here. :action-sm

[Kid Brock]

Goddamn Jason Marquis.:clap: :clap: What a bullpen saver that start was.

[Hoagie]

And if it wasn't for that Marquis jem we'd be back on an awful losing streak. We've now lost 3 of the last 4. And 2 of those games would have been wins if anyone could hit a sacrifice fly. I can't remember a sacrifice fly the entire season yet. The inability to score a man on 3rd with less then 2 outs is, has, and will continue to kill us in close games.

[Kid Brock]

Also another classic where the Cubs out -hit the opponent but lost 7-2. Only the Cubs can make Pat Burrell look like a real major leaguer and not just some $15,000,000 a year dope.

[Hoagie]

I'm watching todays fucking debacle against the Phillies. Will Ohman is just a joke. The whole inning could have been avoided if he makes a decent throw to the plate. If there's anyone who should be able to make an accurate throw to hom plate....it's a fucking pitcher. This is fucking embarassing.

[Kid Brock]

I was at my brothers UNLV graduation following the game on my phone. During the ceremony it was still 5-1 Phils. By the time I made it to the parking lot it was 7-5 Cubs. 15 minutes later it was fucking 11-7 wtf.


Plus mark it down as another loss where they outhit the opponent but scored 4-5 fewer runs.

[Kid Brock]

A win (4-1) is a win I guess, but the 6th inning was typical baby bears today. 4 straight hits in the inning and the somehow figured out a way to not score. Sori gunning Utley to end it was sweet though.

[Hoagie]

Dear bullpen,

Die.

Sincerely,
Your Fans

[Kid Brock]

Dear bullpen,

Die.

Sincerely,
Your Fans


:fight6: We just need more 8 or 9 inning outings from the starters. Can't leave it to Howry and Eyre every night.

[Hoagie]

2 out of 3 from the White Sux was pretty cool. I think they need to work with Zambrano with his weight. He's gotten heavier and it's the only thing I can think of for his less then stellar starts so far. Derrick Lee is still an animal and Ramirez has been coming on strong.

[Kid Brock]

Neal Cotts went out of his way to help his old team today. That inning was typical Z though. 2 out nobody on then he plunks Uribe (who I thought was up on murder charges back in S. America), then a walk then all hell breaks lose. Brewers have come back to reality, but it is up to the Cubs to run them down.

[Kid Brock]

Another chance to post about a game where they outhit their opponents yet lost 5-1. I am leaving tomorrow to spend the holiday weekend in Chicago. For once I am glad they are on the road when I am there.

[Hoagie]

I can't even listen to the games now that my XM is cancelled. My mom and sister have accounts for the online MLB feed so I can listen while I'm at my computer. But I can't hear the games while at work.

[Vic Mackey]

Well, as much as the White Sox have sucked so far, at least they are not beating the shit out of each other in the clubhouse.


Zambrano vs. Barrett: The slugout in the dugout
Frustrations boil over as Zambrano, Barrett tangle in 5th loss in row
By Dave Van Dyck
Tribune staff reporter

June 1, 2007, 11:10 PM CDT

It has come to this with the Cubs: Unable to beat other teams, they have started beating on each other. Unable to settle things in private meetings, they have taken to public airwaves.

Frustration, then futility and finally fisticuffs.

In the midst of losing their fifth straight game and 11th in the last 15—8-5 to Atlanta on Friday at Wrigley Field—batterymates Carlos Zambrano and Michael Barrett tussled in the dugout and then apparently had an all-out set-to in the clubhouse.

It left Barrett in the hospital with a cut lip, Zambrano alone to celebrate his 26th birthday and teammates wondering what happened.

While manager Lou Piniella pledged there would be disciplinary action after he meets with both players before Saturday's game, several teammates said they were "embarrassed" by this season spiraling into insignificance.

"We're not putting everything together now and that [fight] happens," said Alfonso Soriano, the team's highest-paid player. "So I'm embarrassed for everybody here because we're supposed to be like a family and that's not supposed to happen."

Of course the team wasn't supposed to be 22-30 at this point of the season, one marred by baserunning blunders, bad fielding, untimely hitting and inept relief pitching.

It became so bad Wednesday that unofficial team captain Derrek Lee called a players-only meeting.

"Obviously the meeting didn't work, so I don't know about [more] meetings," Lee said. "You can only talk so much. We're grown men, we're major-leaguers, we have to figure out a way to do our jobs better. Right now it's embarrassing."

The disappointing play had been irritating the Cubs for days and it finally boiled over Friday after an unsightly top of the fifth inning in which Zambrano allowed five runs on five hits and Barrett was charged with a passed ball and a throwing error on the same play.

Emotions had been building the entire game, as Zambrano became frustrated by sloppy play. Shortstop Ryan Theriot missed a popup on the first play of the game that led to a run and right fielder Matt Murton's error on a dropped fly accounted for another run in the fourth inning.

Then came the fifth when Zambrano walked the leadoff man and Barrett committed his error. After Barrett's miscues, Zambrano allowed a single to .189-hitting Pete Orr and a double to pitcher Kyle Davies, a .067 hitter.

When the inning finally ended, Zambrano had given up seven runs on 13 hits as his earned-run average rose to 5.62.

Then he approached Barrett in the dugout and pointed to his head while yelling.

Barrett pointed toward the outfield or scoreboard and said something back. Zambrano then took a swipe at Barrett's head and the two exchanged brief blows before being separated.

"It was about the pitch that Barrett missed," Piniella said. "We broke it up and I walked Zambrano [to the clubhouse] with a couple of players and I was back on the bench watching the ballgame [when] they got into it again in the clubhouse."

Why were the two allowed in the same area at the same time?

"We took [Zambrano] into the clubhouse and I told him to just take a shower and go home," Piniella said. "And Michael went up there. I was watching the game."

Zambrano was being removed from the game because of his ineffectiveness. Barrett would have stayed in if not for the clubhouse altercation.

"It's frustrating for everybody," Piniella said. "These things shouldn't happen among teammates. Go fight the other team if you have to."

General manager Jim Hendry was out of town scouting amateur talent for Thursday's draft but was kept informed of the incidents.

Assistant general manager Randy Bush said the organization would "leave it up to Lou" to determine the penalties, although management might have to get involved if suspensions or fines are levied.

Bush said the incident would not affect the team's efforts to sign Zambrano before he becomes a free agent.

Regarding Barrett, he said, "You don't look at one incident and let that slant how you look at a player."

Barrett now has been involved in two recent incidents. He slugged White Sox catcher A.J. Pierzynski during last year's interleague series at U.S. Cellular Field.

And so another strange day ended at Wrigley Field, where a fan ran onto the field just as Aramis Ramirez was connecting for a home run in the eighth inning. The fan was corralled before he could cause further trouble, which is more than could be said for the Cubs.

[Vic Mackey]

And audio of Pinella losing it in the postgame at the end of the press conference.

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-070601louaudio,1,1524871.mp3file?coll=cs-home-utility

[nitefly5150]

I'm driving to Atlanta next weekend to go to the game. I'd be cool if they won (did it last year and they lost)... it'd also be cool if they didn't start fighting each other in the dugout.

[nitefly5150]

Rough weekend to be a Cubs fan so far.

[Kid Brock]

Can we rename this the Tampa Bay Devil Ray thread or maybe the KC Royals? That way I will forget it is here and be one less reminder of the disgust I have for my Cubs.

[Vic Mackey]

Can we rename this the Tampa Bay Devil Ray thread or maybe the KC Royals? That way I will forget it is here and be one less reminder of the disgust I have for my Cubs.

At least you don't have the realization that unless your starters go 8 innings the game is most likely out of reach. The Cub bullpen blows as well, but they are no where nearly as awful as the Sox bullpen. Maybe I am just looking at it from the Sox viewpoint, but I give a pathetic slight edge to the Cub right now.

On a side note, the Cotts - Aardsma trade looks like it has worked out equally awful for both teams.

[maxeypad]

wow the cubs fucking suck almost as bad as the astros...as least Lou still has some moves in em

[Kid Brock]

Pull this out of the basement to announce Michael Barrett has been dumped on the Padres for catcher Rob Bowen (involved in D. Lee fight) and the Pads 1st round pick last year (OF) Kyle Burke. As much as everyone (the media) is going to blame the Big Z fight, it really came down to his lack of defense this year and the difference in team e.r.a. between him and the other catchers.

[Hoagie]

I think this thread deserves a little life seeing as how the Cubs just swept the Rockies to complete back to back sweeps. Granted they were against bad teams but sweeping the White Sox and taking 5 out of 6 overall is enough to make the year that much better. After a slow start Soriano has really been earning his paycheck lately. Fontenot has really added a spark to the line up. And Zambrano is starting to find his form. The upcoming series against the Brewers is going to be extemely important. It might already be too late but you never know what will happen in the second half of the season if we can stay withing striking distance.

[Kid Brock]

Fontenot is quickly becoming a cult icon at the confines. Not bad for a throw in on the Sosa deal.

[Kid Brock]

If a game can be important in June it was today's walk off win against the Brewers and Cordero.

[Hoagie]

Of all the offseason spending the Cubs did, Aramis Ramirez was the one I was most sure was a good move. I'm really liking our top 4 hitters right now. They're killing the ball.

[Deadbent]

*Mumbles something*

[Kid Brock]

Shocking. Michael barrett gets kicked out of town and they are winning

[Kid Brock]

Note to all Cubs starters: Please stop giving up huge 1st innings and throwing 90+ pitches in 3 innings when the bullpen is already beat-up and worn down.

Thank you

Cubs Fan

[Hoagie]

Marquise may have heard you. Nice game by him today. A good part of the bullpen got a day off.

[Kid Brock]

Note to Ryan Dempster: Carlos Marmol wants your job.

[Kid Brock]

Marquise may have heard you. Nice game by him today. A good part of the bullpen got a day off.


Maybe Lilly did also.

[Kid Brock]

You are not going to win when you give up a 2 run single to the pitcher and a homerun to stupid, slap-hitter Freddy Sanchez.

[Hoagie]

Things are going better tonight. 7-0 Cubbies right now. I don't think even Howry can blow this one.

[Kid Brock]

Nats just finished off the Brewers so at least the Cubs got a game back. Big Z going tomorrow, need a strong start to go into the break.

[Hoagie]

Where is our offense?

[nitefly5150]

I didn't get to see the game today, but losing 2/3 to Pittsburgh scares me. Granted the Pirates are on a bit of a streak, but it still makes me start thinking "I knew it was too good to be true"

[Kid Brock]

I'm not ready to panic or get excited yet. Yeah dropping 2 of 3 to Pitt sucked, but it was on the road and at least the Brewers also suck on the road. I am concerned that they haven't hit a home run since the A-Ram walk- off and D. Lee is now a singles hitter. I think he needs the break more than any player on the team, of course once his suspension starts he is going to get a week off anyway.

[Kid Brock]

Raise the W flag. 6-0 over the Astros who had as many errors as hits.

[Kid Brock]

Another open letter to Jason Marquis:

Dear Jason,

It is now less than 80 minutes until your next start. You have a chance to help sweep the Astros and start this second half right. Keep the fucking ball in the park and stop giving up RBI hits to the opposing pitcher.


Sincerely,

Insane Cubs Fan


P.S. I will stop back in here after the game and write you a letter either praising your efforts or cursing your name.

[Hoagie]

Marquis start are such a toss up. He either dominates and breezes to a win or gets killed and run out by the end of the 3rd inning. But if our offense continues at this pace, we may get the sweep in spite of Marquis. Not because of him.

[Kid Brock]

Marquis start are such a toss up. He either dominates and breezes to a win or gets killed and run out by the end of the 3rd inning. But if our offense continues at this pace, we may get the sweep in spite of Marquis. Not because of him.


Nail-head meet hammer. Good call Hoagie. Hopefully the Giants plane is delayed coming into O'Hare and they are extra sleepy for this coming series.

[Hoagie]

Again, we're gonna have to outscore the Giants to win. Which we can do. But who knows what kind of starts we'll get out of Hill and Marshall.

[Hoagie]

Great outing by Hill last night. And I love the fact that the game was on ESPN because it was Barry Bonds playing a major market team and Bonds didn't even play. It was a really fun game. I say Aramis Ramirez for NL MVP!

[Kid Brock]

SF has been on ESPN 4 times this year and Bonds has sat out all of them.

[Kid Brock]

A Open Letter to Jason Kendall:

Dear Mr. Kendall,

You are a bearded white guy who just got traded to a city full of bearded white guys. You have a chance to be a working class hero in that ballpark. Of course dropping a throw from Soriano when Visquel was dead at the plate and dropping a pop-up behind the plate also leading to a run is more likely to get you stabbed.

Your's truly,

VegasBrock

[Kid Brock]

A letter to the whole Cubs offense for tomorrow's game:

Dear 1-9 hitters,

You are facing Brandon Webb who has maybe the best sinker ball in the game. Do not under any circumstance try to pull every pitch you see or there will be 27 ground-ball outs to either the shortstop or second baseman.

Thanks for your time.

[Hoagie]

A letter to the whole Cubs offense for tomorrow's game:

Dear 1-9 hitters,

You are facing Brandon Webb who has maybe the best sinker ball in the game. Do not under any circumstance try to pull every pitch you see or there will be 27 ground-ball outs to either the shortstop or second baseman.

Thanks for your time.Meh....I say swing away. We'll either hit 8 home runs and score 14 to win 14-13 or we'll lose. I have nothing but faith in Marquis at this point. :icon_roll

[Kid Brock]

Well both things happened. Marquis pitched well only made the 1 mistake on Young's homer and Brandon Webb's sinker was working. When he was in the Cubs only had 1 fly ball out. Now we just need the Giants to roll the Brewers.

[Hoagie]

If any of three teams hit a losing streak we can get in a playoff position. The Brewers, the Dodgers, and the Padres. If the Cubs can just keep winning at a good clip, I think one of the three will run out of steam eventually.

[Kid Brock]

Grrrrrrrrrr. I guess it is good that I am starting to get mad when they lose once every 5 days. I never really felt like the Cubs were in this game even though it only ended up 3-2. I was just hoping it was one of those games recently where they could have the one big inning to pull it out.

[Hoagie]

I guess the hot streak is over. Why can't the Cubs ever beat fucking Arizona?

[Kid Brock]

I guess the hot streak is over. Why can't the Cubs ever beat fucking Arizona?


Hopefully just a speed bump and the offense really hasn't disappeared. Good thing is that they got through the Lee suspension and the lineup can go back to not having Fontenot hitting 3rd.

[Hoagie]

I don't know. The second game was a speed bump. It was a case where a bunch of hot hitters who were too anxious to hit came up against a guy who couldn't throw a strike and they swung at alot of bad pitches and let alot of good opportunities slip away. That 3rd game was just pathetic. They never even got anything going. I hope it's just a one game thing. But it just didn't feel like it.

[Kid Brock]

Damn I can't mentally handle watching Cubs/Cardinals games.

[Hoagie]

It would be easier to handle if they didn't make Kip friggen Wells look like a decent big league pitcher.

[Hoagie]

Marquis is pure, unadulterated dogshit. I pray the Cubs can trade for someone to take his spot in the rotation. I'm sick of watching him suck cock on the mound start after start.

[Kid Brock]

You beat me in here Hoagie. Maybe I should of wrote another open letter to him that seems to help some times. You figure with 6-1 deficit as I type this game is over, but I can live with 2 of 3 in St. Louis. Shit if the Cards want to use this and get hot for 1 more series (brewers) so be it.

[Hoagie]

But I can't live with a fucking idiot who walks the pitcher, hits a batter to drive in a run, and gives up a grand slam in one inning.

[Kid Brock]

But I can't live with a fucking idiot who walks the pitcher, hits a batter to drive in a run, and gives up a grand slam in one inning.


No argument here my friend. He can take Billy Petrick along with him also.

[Kid Brock]

I have to stay away from this thread for a couple days and stay away from sharp objects and firearms or that 9th inning is going to send me on a rampage.

[leftybearfan]

Nice bounce back win today. And muchas gracias to the Cards for beating the hell out of the Brewers this weekend. Bring on Philly.

[Hoagie]

We need a good outing from Lilly. Because it could be very embarassing what that Phillies offense might do to Marquis.

[Kid Brock]

I think Lilly will continue to pitch well, but with Hamels going tonight and the way the Cubs struggle against lefties it might have to be a 2-1 grind out performance to win.

[Hoagie]

I'm still tired and hungover thanks to that game last night. Both teams left a ton of runners on base. But when we got the bases loaded with no outs and stupid Kendall struck out, I was just picturing not scoring again and I was going to lose my mind.

[Kid Brock]

Great win, but following it up this afternoon with another would be huge.

[Hoagie]

Well the Phillies score in the first and Soriano leads off with a hit and gets caught stealing. Lee ends up hitting a double that would have scored him. If we're going to win this game, we're going to have to do it the hard way it seems.

[Kid Brock]

Exactly what I was coming in here to post in our 2 man thread. No homo

[Kid Brock]

Looks like Lohse was traded for just to throw baseballs at opposing hitters for the Phillies.

[Hoagie]

Marshall is throwing this fucking game away in the second inning. He walked a pitcher. What a douche.

[Hoagie]

Christ, this game is a complete disaster. As bad as the outfield defense has been, they are taking it to a new level. This isn't worth watching.

[Kid Brock]

Christ, this game is a complete disaster. As bad as the outfield defense has been, they are taking it to a new level. This isn't worth watching.



I punched out of it after Theriot's 2 run error.

[Kid Brock]

Well I punched back in and it is 7-5, but of course they have had way more chances to even it up.



*update* Mother Fuckers. 2 staright innings with the leadoff guy on and 2 straight double plays.

[Hoagie]

This is the kind of bullpen we should be able to get a homerun or two off of. Someone needs to step and get a big hit with runners on.

[Hoagie]

Why am I not surprised that Ohman is the one that crushes the comeback attempt?

[Kid Brock]

Way to go Will "Fucking" Ohman. Climb all the way back to 7-6 so he can get shelled in the 9th. God-damn our lefties in the bullpen really suck between him and Eyre.

[Deadbent]

Nice job on getting first place for the first time in years. Try going wire to wire the whole year like that. HA!!


(You guys know I just had to come in and give ya a bit of shit. I'm pretty glad the cubs can finally get some results indicative of a team as good as they are.)

[Hoagie]

I hope Kerry Wood can stay healthy pitch well. Cause we seem to be one reliever short in these close games. Marmol, Cherry, and Howry seem to be throwing well. But we're losing games because we can't get that last reliever to anything but seriously shit the bed, no matter who it is. Yesterday it was Ohman embarassing himself. Today it was fucking Dempster. The Cubs desperately need to make some waiver trade for a reliever if they want to make the playoffs and compete.

[leftybearfan]

I hope Kerry Wood can stay healthy pitch well. Cause we seem to be one reliever short in these close games. Marmol, Cherry, and Howry seem to be throwing well. But we're losing games because we can't get that last reliever to anything but seriously shit the bed, no matter who it is. Yesterday it was Ohman embarassing himself. Today it was fucking Dempster. The Cubs desperately need to make some waiver trade for a reliever if they want to make the playoffs and compete.




QFT. I knew the 20+ innings of scoreless relief was too good to be true. Two shit-the-bed performances by the tail end of the pen do not give me a good feeling. Maybe Wood will be the answer.

[CallmeQtie]

I think I caught the end of the game vs the Mets this afternoon, Looks like wright got the ball rolling and they just kept hitting them out of the park. BuT I could be wrong cause I am a clueless chick, but looks like the Mets gave the Cubs a good old fashioned ass whooping!

[Hoagie]

I am a clueless chickQFT!!! :p

[leftybearfan]

Nice bounceback today. I feel I should publicly apologize to Jim Hendry. When he signed Lily, I thought he was giving way too much money for a guy that would be lucky to win 10 games this year. Mea Culpa, Mr Hendry.

Now, that Marquis signing is something that needs to be explained :arrrh:

[Kid Brock]

Didn't need much of the bullpen today thanks to Ted.

[Hoagie]

Good game all around. Too bad the Phillies had to shit the bed against Milwaukee.

[leftybearfan]

At least the Phillies didn't completely shit the bed this weekend. Nice comeback today. That loss will haunt the Brewers for a while.


In Cubs related news, Marquis just gave up a single to the pitcher and Angel Pagan just fucked up a chance to keep the game scoreless. Nice glovework, deek.

[Hoagie]

Well now Soriano is hurt. We'll miss his 2 strike outs a night. And the rest of the team just looks helpless. If this is the best they can play against a playoff caliber team....we're better off not making the playoffs.

[Kid Brock]

Soriano out upwards of a month. That whole situation leading to the Mets first run was classic Marquis. Get 2 quick outs, let the 8th hitter get on, let him steal 2nd then give up a single to the pitcher for a r.b.i.

[Hoagie]

Soriano out upwards of a month. That whole situation leading to the Mets first run was classic Marquis. Get 2 quick outs, let the 8th hitter get on, let him steal 2nd then give up a single to the pitcher for a r.b.i.It's not just classic Marquis. But also classic Cubs outfied defense. It was shallow and there would have been a good chance to gun him out at home plate. But, of course, Pagan scoops the bakk in his mit and then proceeds to drop as he takes it out to throw it. How many times are Cubs outfielders going to do that? It happens like every game.

[Kid Brock]

Eric Patterson called up to replace Soriano on the roster. God I hope he doesn't remind me of Cory at all.

[maxeypad]

if the astros beat the cubs...i'm gonna laugh

[Hoagie]

if the astros beat the cubs...i'm gonna laughWhy? It's been known to happen. Bad teams beating better teams. That's why no one goes undefeated. And the Cubs have been as cold the last 2 series as they have since weeks before the All Star break.

[maxeypad]

i don't know....it's just the way the Astros season has gone, and we did win lol....stros are cold as well...playing better at home recently...hopefully we can pick up some wins against da cubs and brew-crew

[Hoagie]

Yep. This team is crashing and crashing hard. With Soriano out for the year (I know they're saying a month but, with a tear, he won't be the same even if he comes back this year) and the focus just being completely lost, I think this season is about done. As much as the Barret trade lit a fire under the team and got them going, the Kendall trade just put it right out. Another nice passed ball to let the winning run move to 3rd base.

[maxeypad]

:clap:Yep. This team is crashing and crashing hard. With Soriano out for the year (I know they're saying a month but, with a tear, he won't be the same even if he comes back this year) and the focus just being completely lost, I think this season is about done. As much as the Barret trade lit a fire under the team and got them going, the Kendall trade just put it right out. Another nice passed ball to let the winning run move to 3rd base.

yeah i have noticed the cubs kinda crashing...can't be as bad as the stros though lol...but yeah with Soriano out...that's gonna hurt...kinda like when Pence went out for Houston....kinda sucks.... :icon_cry: i was never one for Barrett, but i did find his antics with Roy Oswalt fucking hilarious...Oswalt got the better of him :) and i didn't like the Kendall trade...he's OLD...and i liked the passed ball to move the runner to 3rd base :clap:

watch, cubs will take 2 out of 3...woody pitching tomorrow....and we suck against Carlos...but Roy is pitching...gonna be a good pitching matchup

[Kid Brock]

:clap:

yeah i have noticed the cubs kinda crashing...can't be as bad as the stros though lol...but yeah with Soriano out...that's gonna hurt...kinda like when Pence went out for Houston....kinda sucks.... :icon_cry: i was never one for Barrett, but i did find his antics with Roy Oswalt fucking hilarious...Oswalt got the better of him :) and i didn't like the Kendall trade...he's OLD...and i liked the passed ball to move the runner to 3rd base :clap:

watch, cubs will take 2 out of 3...woody pitching tomorrow....and we suck against Carlos...but Roy is pitching...gonna be a good pitching matchup


You know clappy hand overusing guy, there is a Astro thread probably about 50 pages deep in this section. Why don't you go find that and post by yourself because noone else will be in there to be annoyed by you.

[Creampier]

Meeeeeeow!!!

I dunno what all the fuss is over here in Cub land. You guys lost a series for the first time in about 2 months. Your team is very good. Pinella is not going to let them quit. Everybody gets hit with the injury bug over the course of 162 games. The Mets took their lumps in June.

I will say I'm rooting for you guys to win the division, not the wild card, because I fear the Cubs rotation a hell of a lot more in a 5 game set than Milwaukee. Big Z and Lilly are tough!

[Hoagie]

I dunno what all the fuss is over here in Cub land.I'll explain. We have a starting rotation that tends to throw a couple good innings but falls apart somewhere in the first 5 innings. We have a couple good relievers but not enough to take the game through the final 4 innings. So that means we have to put in someone that is going to give up a ton of runs. Add that to the inability to move runners and manufacture runs and the fact that this team hasn't hit home runs all year long, and you have a disaster in the making.

[Kid Brock]

They are now 5-6 in their last 11 games and yet it feels like they are 1-10 in that stretch. Must be because this last week and a half they have had the chance to roar past the Brewers and my new least favorite player in baseball Prince Fielder.

[maxeypad]

meoooow indeed

can't even read

[Hoagie]

This is just terrific. Bases loaded twice in three innings and what do we get out of it? One fucking run and 7 left on. Crash and fucking burn.

[maxeypad]

This is just terrific. Bases loaded twice in three innings and what do we get out of it? One fucking run and 7 left on. Crash and fucking burn.

yeah....woody williams is totally lucky...i don't see how he escaped both of those bases loaded jams.....

[nitefly5150]

I felt really good about their chances last Friday, now I feel it all slipping away.

[Hoagie]

I guess we can call it a season. The team already has. I'll be in the Steelers thread if you need me.

[maxeypad]

got back from the Ween show...and noticed the astros swept the cubs....crazy

[Hoagie]

Yeah...and to get swept by such a garbage team. You know this season is done.

[maxeypad]

Yeah...and to get swept by such a garbage team. You know this season is done.

f0 sure!

[Kid Brock]

"For us to avoid having to face Zambrano the whole game is probably a plus, at the expense of my start," said St. Louis right-hander Kip Wells, who opposed Zambrano on Sunday night.


Pretty bad when the opposing starter admitts it is better off he didn't have to finish a game against Z.

[Kid Brock]

It will be really shitty if this game gets called and they don't at least get to attempt a late come-back. Of course every time they score someone like Carmen Pignatello (sp) comes in and gives up a homer to Babe Ruth (Rick Ankiel).

[Hoagie]

Yeah I think the Cardinals got lucky with the weather in that series. Zambrano was pretty fired up with the new contract and he was hitting his spots. I don't think they would have gotten much off him. And the last game, once they got that early lead, it was tough to come back when the momentum got killed by the rain delay.

It was a nice comeback win in the 9th tonight against the Giants. I'm tempted to get back into the season but I know it's just going end badly.

[Kid Brock]

Here is what I wanted to post as yesterdays game progressed:

1st Inning post- Well here we go again Hoagie's favorite player Jason Marquis just walked the first 3 batters of the game and gave up a run on a groundout. This could be a blowout.


5th Inning post- Figures that Marquis has settled in and the bats didn't make the trip to SF as this Lincecome kid is nasty and this game may end up 1-0 Giants.

9th Inning post- Holy fuck they finally won a game where it felt like they had no chance from start to finish. As great as that guy from SF was they hung the loss on him and got a nice win.

[Kid Brock]

So Zambrano rewards the Cubs for his new $91,000,000 contract by walking ht epitcher with 2 outs to load the bases leading to the next batter driving in 2 runs and then the next time the same pitcher comes to bat he gives up a 2 run homer to him. Nice job you fucking emo spic.

[Hoagie]

Well the Cubs won today....finally. And the Brewers are going into the 9th inning losing by 3. If the Brewers lose, the Cubs clinch. So it looks like the Cubs are going to the playoffs. And that's a good thing.....right?

[leftybearfan]

Brewers game just ended. The beer will flow in Chicago (and Cincy) tonight.






edit: kind of fitting that Maddux got the win for the Padres tonight that clinched it for the Cubs.

[Hoagie]

Try hitting the ball, you fucksticks.

[Kid Brock]

Frustrating thing was when they did make contact against Webb last night most of it was line drives, but right at someone.

[Hoagie]

Lilly sucks a cock. There are too many overpaid and underproducing wastes on this team. This has been the worst postseason performance I've ever seen.

[Kid Brock]

Please Hoagie destroy this thread. Don't just lock it, but use your powers to delete it from the annals of history.

[Hoagie]

Just let me use it to rant for the next game and what I'm sure will be a sweep of the series for the Diamondbacks and then I'll make it cease to exist.

[Deadbent]

At least I'd rather have my team take one on the chin in june instead of october.

Condolences guys, it's not sounding/looking good.

[Kid Brock]

Ok Hoagie I can live with that.

[Kid Brock]

At least I'd rather have my team take one on the chin in june instead of october.

Condolences guys, it's not sounding/looking good.


I must admit I am much more content when they only win 66 games and are eliminated in May.

[HoagieFromBayshore]

I think we just remember how much fun the last playoff run was for the Cubs. It was so much fun up till the last 10 innings. And this playoff "run" has sucked from the fucking start. I think that makes it even more disappointing.

[Kid Brock]

I think we just remember how much fun the last playoff run was for the Cubs. It was so much fun up till the last 10 innings. And this playoff "run" has sucked from the fucking start. I think that makes it even more disappointing.


Talk about a celebrity sighting it is not often we get HoagiefromBayshore to pop in to a discussion.

[Vic Mackey]

Had to post this, made me laugh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quKraecWnTs

[Hoagie]

Wow...that was some great singing. Just a tip for the guy. Clean the cum out of your throat before you try to belt out a tune.

I don't know what's worse...losing every year....or winning a World Series and still only being that other team in town.

[Vic Mackey]

Wow...that was some great singing. Just a tip for the guy. Clean the cum out of your throat before you try to belt out a tune.

I don't know what's worse...losing every year....or winning a World Series and still only being that other team in town.

Do you mean that other team that drew about 2.8 million in attendance this year even though they sucked?:icon_mrgr

[Kid Brock]

Do you mean that other team that drew about 2.8 million in attendance this year even though they sucked?:icon_mrgr


Did you just brag about the White Sox being 15th in attendance in a city that has over 7 million people? The real tell tale is how a team draws on the road and they ranked 3rd to last in that.

[Kid Brock]

Did you just brag about the White Sox being 15th in attendance in a city that has over 7 million people? The real tell tale is how a team draws on the road and they ranked 3rd to last in that.



Corresponding link by the way:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/attendance

[peopleselbow]

The sight of all of the faggot Cubdom and Cubness is finally over for another year.

God bless the D-Backs.

[Kid Brock]

The sight of all of the faggot Cubdom and Cubness is finally over for another year.

God bless the D-Backs.


I know I am speaking for the rest of the "faggot" Cub fans when I say go fuck yourself and go post in the White Sox thread. Oh wait no one has seen that thread since the 1st week of April. I doubt there is any person right now more pissed at the Cubs than me, but you really need to worry more about your team that will be another year older next year with the same pitching staff and lineup that was damn near the bottom in every category.

[peopleselbow]

I know I am speaking for the rest of the "faggot" Cub fans when I say go fuck yourself and go post in the White Sox thread. Oh wait no one has seen that thread since the 1st week of April. I doubt there is any person right now more pissed at the Cubs than me, but you really need to worry more about your team that will be another year older next year with the same pitching staff and lineup that was damn near the bottom in every category.

2005>1907

Peace!

[Kid Brock]

2005>1907

Peace!


Both are in the past retard. And I would almost take that from a Yankee fan whose team has 26 titles or even god for bid a Cards fan who have 10. But it doesn't really have the same sting when it comes from a super smart Sox fan like yourself.

[Hoagie]

2005>1907

Peace!And yet they're still just that other team in Chicago. That must drive White Sox fans insane.

Do you mean that other team that drew about 2.8 million in attendance this year even though they sucked?:icon_mrgrWell the Cubs fans that couldn't get in to Wrigley Field in the midst of a record breaking attendance season with well over 3 million needed to do something. Like I said, they are nothing more then that other team in Chicago. The one that plays in the trashy part of town.

[peopleselbow]

And yet they're still just that other team in Chicago. That must drive White Sox fans insane.

You are correct.

Well the Cubs fans that couldn't get in to Wrigley Field in the midst of a record breaking attendance season with well over 3 million needed to do something. Like I said, they are nothing more then that other team in Chicago. The one that plays in the trashy part of town.

That is soooo cliche.

Obviously, you have not been to Bridgeport lately. It is not a trashy place. it is a nice, safe neighborhood.

The projects across the Dan Ryan are long gone and have been replaced by town homes and Chicago P.D. head quarters.

Granted, the Sox do not play near the gay are of Chicago, like the Cubs do therefore, the houses do not look as nice.

[Deadbent]

http://oglebrooms.tripod.com/broom102.JPG

[Kid Brock]

http://oglebrooms.tripod.com/broom102.JPG


I assume you were trying to post something super witty like I know you Sox fans are, but you weren't quite smart enough to post a working pic.

[Hoagie]

http://oglebrooms.tripod.com/broom102.JPGAnd we never would have been in the playoffs to have it happen if not for all the times we beat the White Sox this year. Now they can finally join the White Sox where they have been since the season's end.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a38/Hoagie1/Golf_Club.jpg

That is soooo cliche.

Obviously, you have not been to Bridgeport lately. It is not a trashy place. it is a nice, safe neighborhood.

The projects across the Dan Ryan are long gone and have been replaced by town homes and Chicago P.D. head quarters.

Granted, the Sox do not play near the gay are of Chicago, like the Cubs do therefore, the houses do not look as nice.I don't care what the neighborhood is like. White Sox fans are trash. It could be the nicest neighborhood in the world, but when the White Sox play at home, it has the largest collection of trash in the city. For example:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a38/Hoagie1/kcfanattack020920.jpg



...aaaaand punt.