2007 New York Mets Thread

[CM Mark]

Well, pitchers and catchers report today. The season is officially underway in a few hours.


My prediction for this year is 95-67.


LET'S GO METS!!!!

[Mother Shucker]

Anything less then a World Series appearance would be disappointing. Sure as hell need one of the young arms to emerge as a solid three, and need to bring in a four and get Pedro to contribute something.

[CM Mark]

Sure as hell need one of the young arms to emerge as a solid three
My eyes are squarely on Pelfry personally

[Tax Kuntz]

Dear Mets Fans:

Our quest for a championship begins this week as pitchers and catchers report to Spring Training. All of us at the Mets are determined to build upon last year's success - an MLB-best 97 wins and the National League East title.

We like our blend of young talent, veterans, power, speed, and athleticism as we head into what will be a competitive camp. Carlos Delgado, David Wright, Jose Reyes, and Paul Lo Duca anchor our star-studded infield with Carlos Beltran, Shawn Green, and Moises Alou in the outfield. We think that these guys and those coming off the bench playing as a team combine for one of the most potent, dynamic, and exciting lineups in baseball.

We feel we have more quality arms and depth on our staff than we have had in many, many years going into Spring Training. Proven winners Tom Glavine and "El Duque" Orlando Hernandez lead the starters. After showing a lot during the playoffs last year, we have good reason to believe that John Maine and Oliver Perez can continue to contribute for us this year. We feel that homegrown Mike Pelfrey and Philip Humber are legitimate big league prospects who will compete for a spot with Chan Ho Park, Jorge Sosa, Aaron Sele, Alay Soler, and Jason Vargas. The addition of Ambiorix Burgos and Scott Schoeneweis strengthens our N.L.- leading bullpen. We expect even more quality performances from Aaron Heilman, Pedro Feliciano, and Duaner Sanchez to set up closer Billy Wagner.

Manager Willie Randolph's leadership has created the most unique clubhouse and team environment in all of baseball. We expect the team to continue to thrive under his guidance.

Our entire organization is excited about the upcoming season. The abrupt conclusion to last season makes us even more driven in our goal of winning a World Championship for the greatest fans in sports. We thank you for your loyal support and look forward to seeing you back at Shea for more thrills, fun, and celebrations.

Best,

Omar Minaya
Executive VP of Baseball Operations & General Manager
New York Mets

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

PS sorry we didnt get a proven pitcher under 40 for you.

[CM Mark]

PS sorry we didnt get a proven pitcher under 40 for you.
K. Thanks. Bye

[Mother Shucker]

Can Rex Grossman pitch? He sure as hell can't throw a football.

[KneeKnee]

Dear Mets Fans:

Our quest for a championship begins this week as pitchers and catchers report to Spring Training. All of us at the Mets are determined to build upon last year's success - an MLB-best 97 wins and the National League East title.

We like our blend of young talent, veterans, power, speed, and athleticism as we head into what will be a competitive camp. Carlos Delgado, David Wright, Jose Reyes, and Paul Lo Duca anchor our star-studded infield with Carlos Beltran, Shawn Green, and Moises Alou in the outfield. We think that these guys and those coming off the bench playing as a team combine for one of the most potent, dynamic, and exciting lineups in baseball.

We feel we have more quality arms and depth on our staff than we have had in many, many years going into Spring Training. Proven winners Tom Glavine and "El Duque" Orlando Hernandez lead the starters. After showing a lot during the playoffs last year, we have good reason to believe that John Maine and Oliver Perez can continue to contribute for us this year. We feel that homegrown Mike Pelfrey and Philip Humber are legitimate big league prospects who will compete for a spot with Chan Ho Park, Jorge Sosa, Aaron Sele, Alay Soler, and Jason Vargas. The addition of Ambiorix Burgos and Scott Schoeneweis strengthens our N.L.- leading bullpen. We expect even more quality performances from Aaron Heilman, Pedro Feliciano, and Duaner Sanchez to set up closer Billy Wagner.

Manager Willie Randolph's leadership has created the most unique clubhouse and team environment in all of baseball. We expect the team to continue to thrive under his guidance.

Our entire organization is excited about the upcoming season. The abrupt conclusion to last season makes us even more driven in our goal of winning a World Championship for the greatest fans in sports. We thank you for your loyal support and look forward to seeing you back at Shea for more thrills, fun, and celebrations.

Best,

Omar Minaya
Executive VP of Baseball Operations & General Manager
New York Mets


Oh, and we forgot to mention Endy Chavez, who made the best catch it Mets History...All for nothing...


Im still fucken bitter. Really bitter. I cant even think about this season.

[Mother Shucker]

Oh, and we forgot to mention Endy Chavez, who made the best catch it Mets History...All for nothing...


Im still fucken bitter. Really bitter. I cant even think about this season.
Would have been the best catch in BASEBALL history if they had gotten a hit that game. You think you are bitter? I went to 4 out of the 5 home playoff games, spending almost $1000, just to sit in Shea for game seven NLCS and watch them go hitless every inning but the first and ninth.

[fkornre]

didnt know there were still met fans around...lolol...

LETS GO YANKEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Towelie]

Are people actually trolling this thread?

There is only 1 team I will accept trolling from and thats Cards fans...

I mean the Cubs won what 9 games last season? And the billion dollar dynasty lost the Tigers who got ***** by an 83 win NL team

Ouch.

[Kid Brock]

Are people actually trolling this thread?

There is only 1 team I will accept trolling from and thats Cards fans...

I mean the Cubs won what 9 games last season? And the billion dollar dynasty lost the Tigers who got ***** by an 83 win NL team

Ouch.


The King of Trolling other teams threads is now deciding who can and can't post in the all-mighty Mets forum. Get over yourself.

[Towelie]

El Oh El Brock

If Cubs fans think they can troll in a team that actually made the playoffs thread then they are insane

Lemme know when the Cubbies win 75 games

Tick tock tick tock on Zambrano

He'll look quite good in Orange and Blue

Tell Kerry Wood to look of for those hottubs, they sure jump out at you

Cubbies win 66 games this year

Book it.

[Perch1019]

A
I mean the Cubs won what 9 games last season? And the billion dollar dynasty lost the Tigers who got ***** by an 83 win NL team

Ouch.

Um, didnt that 83 win season team win the decisive game 7 on your home turf?
I feel bad for you guys. To come so close like that last season and now to have such high expections that will be met with the starting 3 of Glavine, El Duke and Chan Ho Park. You all going to be hating Beltran for taking that pitch come August and your looking up from below.

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

The King of Trolling other teams threads is now deciding who can and can't post in the all-mighty Mets forum. Get over yourself.
QFT

[Kid Brock]

El Oh El Brock

If Cubs fans think they can troll in a team that actually made the playoffs thread then they are insane

Lemme know when the Cubbies win 75 games

Tick tock tick tock on Zambrano

He'll look quite good in Orange and Blue

Tell Kerry Wood to look of for those hottubs, they sure jump out at you

Cubbies win 66 games this year

Book it.



Just like Barry Zito was going to look good in Orange and Blue this season right yet magically Omar couldn't woo him. If I thought you had the money or would actually pay me I would "book" that 66 win bet for you.

[Towelie]

If you think Barry Zito is worth being the highest paid player in the game, then you obviously dont know baseball

Zambrano on the other hand has the talent to be

Then again, you could sign garbage pitchers like Jason Marquis (El oh Fucking El) and Ted Lilly for 80 million dollars

Have fun fighting for last place with the Bucs, they dont look that bad...

[KneeKnee]

Would have been the best catch in BASEBALL history if they had gotten a hit that game. You think you are bitter? I went to 4 out of the 5 home playoff games, spending almost $1000, just to sit in Shea for game seven NLCS and watch them go hitless every inning but the first and ninth.


I feel ya bro...

[Tax Kuntz]

You all going to be hating Beltran for taking that pitch come August

Dude, I've hated Beltran SINCE taking that pitch, however I'll give him another shot to redeem himself. If he fucks up again, he will be run out of town...contract or no contract. I blame Wagner & Mota just as much for blowing that series.....and Wright didn't help much either with the bat, but to just stand there and look while the ball floats thru the stike zone ...that hurt.

This year should be fun, much closer division than last year. I've been through many years of dissapointment, but there's nothing better than coming home from work on like a wednesday night in June, turning on the game and just keeping it on in the backround. I'm just so used to it.

I like Omar, he's trying..and not making too many stupid moves. He's stockpiling mid-level/low cost pitchers to get him to July, then go after a real #1 somewhere. Maybe Pedro comes back at some point too...anything we get out of him is a bonus now.

I could do without Julio Franco clogging up the bench and if I ever see Jose Lima anywhere near shea Stadium this year...:icon_evil


I'm glad he didn't overpay for Zito. He is more like a good #2, who got #1 money because he was the best available. Save the money for Willis, Santana or Zambrano at some point.

[domelogic]

Dude, I've hated Beltran SINCE taking that pitch, however I'll give him another shot to redeem himself. If he fucks up again, he will be run out of town...contract or no contract. I blame Wagner & Mota just as much for blowing that series.....and Wright didn't help much either with the bat, but to just stand there and look while the ball floats thru the stike zone ...that hurt.

This year should be fun, much closer division than last year. I've been through many years of dissapointment, but there's nothing better than coming home from work on like a wednesday night in June, turning on the game and just keeping it on in the backround. I'm just so used to it.

I like Omar, he's trying..and not making too many stupid moves. He's stockpiling mid-level/low cost pitchers to get him to July, then go after a real #1 somewhere. Maybe Pedro comes back at some point too...anything we get out of him is a bonus now.

I could do without Julio Franco clogging up the bench and if I ever see Jose Lima anywhere near shea Stadium this year...:icon_evil


I'm glad he didn't overpay for Zito. He is more like a good #2, who got #1 money because he was the best available. Save the money for Willis, Santana or Zambrano at some point.


being that i am a "troller" and my opinion means nothing, i still will say this is th most honest mets assessment i have ever read. every point you made tax cant have many complaints or disagreements. hopefully the phils or another division team will make this an exciting division race

[CM Mark]

Can Rex Grossman pitch? He sure as hell can't throw a football.

Tee Hee Hee.

being that i am a "troller" and my opinion means nothing, i still will say this is th most honest mets assessment i have ever read. every point you made tax cant have many complaints or disagreements. hopefully the phils or another division team will make this an exciting division race

Hopefully it's the Phils. They are the only other team in the NL East that I respect. And hopefully, from my point of view, the Mets come out on top

[Towelie]

The only team in the East I worry about is the Braves...Granted they lost LaRoche, but their pen has a chance to be as good as ours and their offense will be very good

I say we win the East by 10 games

[fkornre]

Dude, I've hated Beltran SINCE taking that pitch, however I'll give him another shot to redeem himself. If he fucks up again, he will be run out of town...contract or no contract. I blame Wagner & Mota just as much for blowing that series.....

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how can you not want beltran out of town now???? playing baseball as a kid the only scenario you have in your head is bases loaded, bottom of the 9th, 2 outs and the game in on your shoulders...not to mention 16 mill (or whatever his contract is) and he just stares at a call strike 3...in little league the coach tells you swing at anything remotely close to a strike when the count is 3-2...that is the biggest joke in baseball i have ever witnessed...

[Towelie]

I cant fathom how people blame Beltran for that pitch

The ball started at his eyes and ended up at his laces

There were other situations in game 7 that were a lot worse then that one

Valentin choking with the bases loaded
Willie sending Cliff up to be Kirk Gibson instead of using Anderson Hernandez to bunt the runners over
Shawn Green leaving 4 in scoring position
Endy flying out with the bases loaded

Lets not even talk about Game 2...Ugh

Beltran wont get booed, and if the fans boo him, they are retarded

[Towelie]

At the NY Post (http://www.nypost.com/seven/02192007/sports/mets/base__treble_mets_mark_hale.htm), Mark Hale writes that last year, Jose Reyes recorded two reggaeton tracks.

He recorded the songs for fun, and this isn't going to be a second career. Reyes doesn't plan to record any more songs or put out a CD.

"I don't want to go too far," he said. "It's not my job. I do that for a hobby because I like it."

Two of Reyes' friends - Ricky Cash (the studio owner) and LJ (a singer) - helped him record the songs. The 23-year-old All-Star, though, didn't write the lyrics or music. The tracks are called "La Rompe Discoteca" and "Encen,"

You can listen to one of his tracks, Encen, at Ricky Cash's Myspace page (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=110415367).


http://hotfoot.metsblog.com/blog/_archives/2007/2/19/2748471.html

El oh El

[JMCC]

we signed Alomar...

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2771016

[Towelie]

we signed Alomar...

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2771016


Good pickup, he'll be good to work with guys like Humber and/or Pelfrey, Mulvey ect in AAA and is a solid #3 behind LoDuca and Castro

What I cant figure out is the 180 he took last season

He was poor offensively and solid defensively, then gets traded and was decent offensively and poor defensively

Oh well, low risk with a chance of a reward

[Towelie]

Sitting on the dugout bench this morning, surrounded by television cameras, Beltran recounted the entire sequence -- changeup inside, curve inside, backdoor curve -- but shoulders no lingering regret from how it all ended.

"After the season was over, I was thinking about every pitch he made to me," Beltran said. "I've got to tip my hat against him. He made good pitches to me. And the last pitch was a pitch, maybe this year, even if I feel good at the plate, I don't think I can hit that pitch. That's how nasty that pitch was. It was a pitch on the outside corner for a strike. I mean, I saw it, but I couldn't do anything with it."

[Fred Told Me]

I don't like hearing Alomar and the Mets in the same sentence after the stellar stint his faggot brother had here.

[Towelie]

I'm convinced that Jimmy Rollins is borderline retarded, and the fact that moron Charlie Manuel doesn't tell that second rate SS to shut his trap is even more retarded


"We're the team to beat. I can't put it any other way ... Look at our team and what we're bringing. Look at the improvements we've made. You look at the rest of the division.

"If they needed motivation to play this game, then they are playing the wrong game ... The Mets had a chance last year to go to the World Series. They made it to the playoffs. They won the division. Congratulations, but last year is over. They can take that any way they want, but I'm just stating a fact.

I love it. Just more gas on the fire. I cant believe he thinks that Freddy Garcia and Wes Helms have given them the 12 game turnaround

One of the worst pens in the majors = No closer to the playoffs then any year Rollins has been in the majors

[Mother Shucker]

Rollins said that? wow.

[Towelie]

Rollins said that? wow.

Rollins has been running his mouth last season and all offseason

Heres some gems:

June 16 2006-“They're not going to keep playing like this and neither are we.”… (Mets take a 6.5 game lead over the Phillies, Mets go on to win divison by 12 games)

January 23 2007-"I think we're the team to beat in the NL East -- finally," Rollins said during the Phillies' Winter Tour on Tuesday at Citizens Bank Park. "But that's all on paper. You have to go out and do it on the field."
“For the first time since I’ve been here, I can say I know we have the pitching to get us there. Our offense has been productive the last couple years, but it’s tough when it’s 6-0 in the third inning.”

David Wright, always the constant model of class responding to this moron:

January 29 2007-“I read in the paper that Jimmy Rollins thinks nobody else has a chance...When you read that, it irks you a bit and makes you wanna go out there and beat them that much more."

[Aizazzle]

Just wanted to say:

Good Luck

and I agree with you guys about Rollins being stupid and opening his mouth but I think he is trying to be more of a leader and motivating his team but until you make the playoffs:icon_sad: you shouldn't talk about The World Series...

[Fred Told Me]

I think Kyle showed up at Phillies Spring Training disguised as Jimmy Rollins.

[Aizazzle]

I think Kyle showed up at Phillies Spring Training disguised as Jimmy Rollins.

wtf Kyle is a knitter ??:icon_eek: :icon_eek: :icon_eek:

[Towelie]

DWright Responding Again

“If that’s Jimmy’s way of motivating the team, then that’s his choice,” David Wright said. “That’s something you’re not going to find around here. We don’t need any motivation. We go out there and we’re going to take care of business. We have the type of veteran leadership that isn’t going to talk about it. We’re going to go out there and back it up.”

[Aizazzle]

Yeah the Mets don't need any leadership and motivation is that why they choked David??Isn't that what you say if your team actually won The Wolrd Series

[Towelie]

Yeah the Mets don't need any leadership and motivation is that why they choked David??Isn't that what you say if your team actually won The Wolrd Series

You must be as brain dead as Rollins

Rollins team didnt even sniff the playoffs, they were out of the division race 10 days into June, he has no place to run his mouth...Ever...He's never been close to the playoffs...Not once.

"We're the defending National League East champions," All-Star third baseman David Wright said. "Our mind-set all those years the Braves were the defending champs was that they were the team to beat. So, until they prove it on the field, it's just talk."


Wright = Smart

Rollins = Mouth running retard

[Mother Shucker]

How can anyone get on DWright, the guy has done everything "Wright" (car crash) since the day he made it to the show.

[walking joint]

You must be as brain dead as Rollins

Rollins team didnt even sniff the playoffs, they were out of the division race 10 days into June, he has no place to run his mouth...Ever...He's never been close to the playoffs...Not once.

lets be fair. they only finished 3 out of the wild card. that is pretty close. and the Dodgers made that gap the last week of the year by winning 9 of their last 10.

[JMCC]

According to Floyd, Willie was confused...

http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseba...orts-headlines

[CM Mark]

How can anyone get on DWright, the guy has done everything "Wright" (car crash) since the day he made it to the show.
Well, other than not risking wrist injuries but not swinging the bat that much during the NLCS. :rolleyes:

Don't get me wrong, I love DWright as much as the next non homo Mets fan, but there were times he should have taken a swing at the ball

[Mother Shucker]

The Floyd thing is a non-issue. So what if they bunted? Edmonds catching Reyes's liner next AB makes the point moot. But yeah, me and everyone around me in the stadium wanted a bunt.

[Towelie]

“I hate the Mets…I want to beat them more than anyone else. What we need to do is make sure none of their fans get in our building. We shouldn't sell tickets to Mets fans.”
-Brett Myers

I guess he didnt enjoy the 50,000 people chanting "BEAT YOUR WIFE"

El Oh El, what a cry baby

I mean he cant be serious?

[domelogic]

You must be as brain dead as Rollins

Rollins team didnt even sniff the playoffs, they were out of the division race 10 days into June, he has no place to run his mouth...Ever...He's never been close to the playoffs...Not once.




Wright = Smart

Rollins & towlie= Mouth running retards


more stupid talk from towlie. the last two years the phils were in the wild card race. they havent been close in the division race. its nice when you put your foot in your mouth, just about every day.

what rollins said was not that bad until he brought up the mets having a chance to go to the world series. but that is on par with towlie thinking the mets have been a constant contender for the playoffs. guy i dont know what your hangup is about the phils but you have single handedly made me hate the mets more than the yankees and i didnt think that was possible.

the brett meyers chants are funny even for a phils fan

training camp has only begun so i guess i can expect more nonsense coming from camp towlie

[Kid Brock]

more stupid talk from towlie. the last two years the phils were in the wild card race. they havent been close in the division race. its nice when you put your foot in your mouth, just about every day.

what rollins said was not that bad until he brought up the mets having a chance to go to the world series. but that is on par with towlie thinking the mets have been a constant contender for the playoffs. guy i dont know what your hangup is about the phils but you have single handedly made me hate the mets more than the yankees and i didnt think that was possible.

the brett meyers chants are funny even for a phils fan

training camp has only begun so i guess i can expect more nonsense coming from camp towlie


QFT. I used to hate in order: Cards, White Sox, Yankees.

Now it is: THE METS, THE METS, and THE METS

[Kyle]

I'm convinced that Jimmy Rollins is borderline retarded, and the fact that moron Charlie Manuel doesn't tell that second rate SS to shut his trap is even more retarded



I love it. Just more gas on the fire. I cant believe he thinks that Freddy Garcia and Wes Helms have given them the 12 game turnaround

One of the worst pens in the majors = No closer to the playoffs then any year Rollins has been in the majors


Dude, just look at something objectively for ONCE.

It's not just Freddy Garcia...it's the fact that the Mets have no 4th or 5th starter. It's the fact that El Duque, a huge injury risk is their #2. It's the fact that Pedro Martinez isn't even guaranteed to pitch a game this season.

You're also looking a team with the league MVP who's only 26 years old...the best left-handed pitching prospect in the league who's only 23, and dominated down the stretch last year. Arguably the best middle infield in baseball.

Nobody expects any Mets fans to say "yes, the Phillies are better." But if you're not concerned, you're a fool. And that's where you lose EVERYONE on this board, Towelie. Because everyone has taken notice of the fact that this is at least a race on paper at this point.

You can defend your team and be reasonable at the same time. But you fail at that time and time again.

[Towelie]

We didnt have a fourth or fifth starter last year

Pedro didnt pitch a decent game after April, he had 5 wins in April and 4 the rest of the season

His post all star game #s = 2-4 7.84 ERA 1.45 WHIP

Pedro was a complete non factor in our season last year

The following players started for us last year:

Alay Soler (8 starts)
Brian Bannister (6 starts)
Dave Williams (5 starts)
Víctor Zambrano (5 starts)
José Lima (4 starts)
Geremi González (3 starts)

Thats 30 starts from players that are non factors on the team this season

So our rotation last season was basically Glavine-Trax-Duque-Maine and a combination of Perez/Soler/Bannister/Williams/Pelfrey/Lima/Gonzalez

So we lost Trax, Bannister, Lima and Gonzalez...Williams is out till June...Soler is basically a nonfactor...So basically we traded Trax for Ollie Perez and leave the 5 spot open for Park/Pelfrey/Humber/Sosa ect

You're looking at this team with the best shortstop in baseball who is 22, argueably the best third baseman in baseball who is 23, two of the best pitching prospects in baseball in Humber and Pelfrey

We didnt lose enough to lose the division, and the Phillies sure as fuck didnt gain enough to catch us

I'll end this mess with a quote from Beltran regarding that moron Rollins...

"Good for him," Carlos Beltran snapped. "What'd they win? What'd they win last year?"
"I don't take it personal," Beltran said. "That's him making a comment. I'm just saying we were the ones who won last year and we got better. We will show it in the field. I don't need to say anything to him. We're going to go out and play. People say crazy things. I'm not surprised by anything."

[domelogic]

You're looking at this team with the best shortstop in baseball who is 22, argueably the best third baseman in baseball who is 23, two of the best pitching prospects in baseball in Humber and Pelfrey


this is the post of an idiot. granted both of those players are very good but the best, you sir are out of your fucking mind. but then we already knew that from your previous posts. just to back up your idiotic ramblings: how about mr jeter and mr cabrera off the top of my head now go get your shinbox

[Bob]

I don't know why you guys let him bother you (I used to) the ignore list works wonders.
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9342/ignorecj3.png (http://imageshack.us)
The only bad part about it is I cant quote his predictions later in the season.

[Towelie]

At this point in their respective careers, I dont know anyone who would take Jeter over Reyes

Reyes is the most dynamic player in baseball...Jeter is a great player, but take away those pinstripes and his legacy loses a lot of its glory

Reyes had more triples, homers, XBH, SB...Jeter out RBIed a leadoff hitter by 15 RBIs

Reyes is the much better defender and the Mets lineup doesnt move unless Reyes does

Listen to every commentator/analyst ect and they all say Reyes is the most dynamic player in sports

David Wrights career speaks for itself

[Mother Shucker]

I don't know why you guys let him bother you (I used to) the ignore list works wonders.
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9342/ignorecj3.png (http://imageshack.us)
The only bad part about it is I cant quote his predictions later in the season.
I got one better for you. Stay out of the Mets thread and go to your gay ass thread where I was told last year how good your team was. How did that work for ya tough guys? Until you make it to October, bu bye.

[MAVRIC305]

Hey, watch it Shucker! Your being a little to lenient! It's "GAY ASS-RAMMING, ASS CANAL LOVERS THREAD" :action-sm

[domelogic]

I got one better for you. Stay out of the Mets thread and go to your gay ass thread where I was told last year how good your team was. How did that work for ya tough guys? Until you make it to October, bu bye.


so i guess you come out ever 6 years or so. :action-sm

towlie, reyes had one good year but that is it. wright doesnt have that much of a career to speak for itself. two very good players who i wouldnt mind having on my team but lets not get ahead of yourself.

[Kyle]

I don't know why you guys let him bother you (I used to) the ignore list works wonders.
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/9342/ignorecj3.png (http://imageshack.us)
The only bad part about it is I cant quote his predictions later in the season.

Good call.

[CM Mark]

Good call.
x2, and i'm a Mets fan.

[Mother Shucker]

Just got my opening day tickets. Prices have gone through the roof. Cost me 54.25 per for Outer Loge Reserve seats. To quote one of Lil' Jimmy's favorite all time movie's, Used Cars: "That is just to fucking high!".

[OandA_Chris]

tomorrow at 1pm EST Mets Tigers SNY first ST game of the year on TV set your tivos

[Mother Shucker]

Anyone interested in Met tickets, go to www.mets.com, click on "pre sale", use the password Wright.

[Towelie]

Gotta love those Phillies, thinking about turning their 26 year old so-called "ace" into a closer to replace that bum Gordon

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/sports/16805991.htm

El Oh El

The youth in that rotation is astonishing

Eaton-30
Garcia-30
Moyer-45
Lieber-37

Look out!

[domelogic]

Gotta love those Phillies, thinking about turning their 26 year old so-called "ace" into a closer to replace that bum Gordon

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/sports/16805991.htm

El Oh El

The youth in that rotation is astonishing

Eaton-30
Garcia-30
Moyer-45
Lieber-37 replace with meyers 26 and add hamels 22 or 23

Look out!

obviously this story was made for someone with the brain the size of towlie's. i am glad you are so intrigued by something that will never happen. when they trade lieber and the list gets extremely younger since you convienently left out the ages of meyers and hamels, what will you have to say. lets just see what happens since i have read in a few publications that the phils have the best staff in the nl. now that means nothing until they perform this season.

btw nice piece on ryan howard from real sports:action-sm

[Towelie]

The Phillies have the best staff in the NL? hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaha hahahahahahaha

The Dodgers have a FAR superior rotation and the Phillies have one of the worst, if not the worst pen of any team trying to contend this season

Sure they might score 6 runs a game, but their pen will probably give back 8

Better hope for a ton of CG

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

The Phillies have the best staff in the NL? hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaha hahahahahahaha

The Dodgers have a FAR superior rotation and the Phillies have one of the worst, if not the worst pen of any team trying to contend this season

Sure they might score 6 runs a game, but their pen will probably give back 8

Better hope for a ton of CG
Your an iziot (daxflame) you can not say your Mets starting pitching is better than the Phillies. You have 2 starters over 40 and 3 guys who are unproven. Even Mets fans hate you doesnt that show you how stupid you are. The Mets own the division in a down season and you are screaming greatest team in history.

[MAVRIC305]

Your an iziot (daxflame) you can not say your Mets starting pitching is better than the Phillies. You have 2 starters over 40 and 3 guys who are unproven. Even Mets fans hate you doesnt that show you how stupid you are. The Mets own the division in a down season and you are screaming greatest team in history.

Oh, Mr. Brazen. Calm your sack! He is just giving his opinion. I also agree with him. He never said a thing about the Mets starting rotation being better than the Phillies, so your whole attack is unwarranted.

We will see how it plays out. Good luck with your big black MVP and revamped starting rotation. I hope you do well. Not as well as the Mets, but well. I do not think you have anything on the Mets overall, and I see the Mets finishing just as good as last year. If the Phillies can top that, then so be it. And, I'll cry... :action-sm

[JMCC]

Why do phil fans always bring up our SP age? Moyer is 44 and Leiber is 36 that's older than Glavine and El duque....

[Towelie]

Where did I say the Mets have superior starting staff to the Phillies?

The Mets have the much, much, much, much, much, much, much better bullpen, but I never said the staffs were equal

I'll guarantee that the Mets team ERA is lower then the Phillies team ERA at seasons end

[Towelie]

Why do phil fans always bring up our SP age? Moyer is 44 and Leiber is 36 that's older than Glavine and El duque....

They are also counting on unproven Gavin Floyd, Brett "I'm scared of Mets fans and I've never had an ERA under 3.72" Myers and Adam "I've never had an ERA under 3.8 and I've only pitched a full season twice in my entire career" Eaton

But oh no, the Mets have pitching issues

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

Once again you are screaming that the Mets will win by 10 games this year and how great the Mets are. No weaknesses. You will need your Bullpen b/c your starting pitching stinks.
Your so in love with Stats---Stats are for Nerds but since you are playing that game
El Duke:
2005 white sox era 5.12
2006 D'backs era 6.11
2007 Mets era 4.09 Oh yea DL when needed
Park
2002 Era 5.75
2003 era 7.58
2004 era 5.46
2005 era 5.91
2006 era 5.66
2007 era 4.81
Perez
2005 era 5.85
2006 Pirates era 6.63
2006 Mets era 6.38
career record 30-43 ouch
John Maine
Career stats
8-9 4.58 era 24 career starts---proven
oh yea Glavine is 41
Proven staff you have
I can keep going if you would like me to finish the rest of your team

[domelogic]

They are also counting on unproven Gavin Floyd, Brett "I'm scared of Mets fans and I've never had an ERA under 3.72" Myers and Adam "I've never had an ERA under 3.8 and I've only pitched a full season twice in my entire career" Eaton

But oh no, the Mets have pitching issues


once again a mountain of misinformation. where do you get the idea we are counting on gavin floyd? brett meyers is fine and so is his era. i honestly dont know much about eaton but he wont make or break the season. hamels and garcia will be 2 of the pitchers we count on and yes the mets do have a better bullpen but you need starters to do well to turn it over to them.

maveric think before you jump on towlies bandwagon cuz if you look around you are the only one there and he gives his opinion entirely to often, most of the time without thought.

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

once again a mountain of misinformation. where do you get the idea we are counting on gavin floyd? brett meyers is fine and so is his era. i honestly dont know much about eaton but he wont make or break the season. hamels and garcia will be 2 of the pitchers we count on and yes the mets do have a better bullpen but you need starters to do well to turn it over to them.

maveric think before you jump on towlies bandwagon cuz if you look around you are the only one there and he gives his opinion entirely to often, most of the time without thought.
QFT

[Towelie]

Where did I ever say the Mets starting staff was better than anyone elses?

Glavine is fine, Duque is fine, Maine is fine (only one starter in all of baseball held batters to a lower batting average plus slugging average on fastballs -- Roger Clemens. Maine's OPS allowed on fastballs was .529, Clemens's was .518.)

Judging on his postseason and having a chance to work with Peterson, Perez should be a solid # 4 and whoever takes the 5 slot from April-June cant be any worse then the Lima/Bannister/Gonzalez/Soler/Williams/Zambrano mess that held the #5 spot last year

If the starters can all keep their ERAs around 4.20 or so, we'll win 90+ games with the pen and offense we have...More then enough to take the #1 seed in the NL again

Hopefully Pelfrey or Humber will come through and be Verlander type #5 (Pelfrey being the more similar pitcher) and if Perez can continue what he did at the end of the season and in the playoffs, then I'll be overly confident

Again, not one team in the NL worries me this season...The Cards significantly downgraded their staff and the East is weaker then last season with the Marlins losing Johnson, the Nats losing Soriano, the Braves losing LaRoche and the Phillies doing nothing of note (Freddy Garcia sucks, believe whatever you want, his ERA will be well over 5 in that park with his flyball tendencies)

The only team that could come out of no where is the Astros, that being if Lidge gets his head on straight and they get Clemens back

The Cubs? Not even on the radar...If they win 70 i'll be shocked...They'll fight the Bucs for last place

[ih8Uboo-boo]

They are also counting on unproven Gavin Floyd

are they???

Click Me... (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2689303)

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

Where did I ever say the Mets starting staff was better than anyone elses?

Glavine is fine, Duque is fine, Maine is fine (only one starter in all of baseball held batters to a lower batting average plus slugging average on fastballs -- Roger Clemens. Maine's OPS allowed on fastballs was .529, Clemens's was .518.)

Judging on his postseason and having a chance to work with Peterson, Perez should be a solid # 4 and whoever takes the 5 slot from April-June cant be any worse then the Lima/Bannister/Gonzalez/Soler/Williams/Zambrano mess that held the #5 spot last year

If the starters can all keep their ERAs around 4.20 or so, we'll win 90+ games with the pen and offense we have...More then enough to take the #1 seed in the NL again

Hopefully Pelfrey or Humber will come through and be Verlander type #5 (Pelfrey being the more similar pitcher) and if Perez can continue what he did at the end of the season and in the playoffs, then I'll be overly confident

Again, not one team in the NL worries me this season...The Cards significantly downgraded their staff and the East is weaker then last season with the Marlins losing Johnson, the Nats losing Soriano, the Braves losing LaRoche and the Phillies doing nothing of note (Freddy Garcia sucks, believe whatever you want, his ERA will be well over 5 in that park with his flyball tendencies)

The only team that could come out of no where is the Astros, that being if Lidge gets his head on straight and they get Clemens back

The Cubs? Not even on the radar...If they win 70 i'll be shocked...They'll fight the Bucs for last place
Once again stats are for Nerds.
Your starting pitching stinks and stinks badly. Please please sell me on your starting pitching. I mean you say Garcia stinks but Maine is solid after a couple of starts. and Perez after 3 games in the playoffs is making you feel really good.
Tell me where the Mets improved their team? They have aging players all around except SS 3rd and CF. Everywhere else they are old. This year is the year of the breakdown.
You dont bring up the DL record of your players the decline average power and defense of your guys. The age or unproveness of your pitching staff. The fact that they signed a 40 year old catcher just to lower the overall age of the team is sad.
You talk out of ur colon and it stinks everytime you type. You might be the worst fan ever no you might be the worst fan ever. How does it feel when your own fellow fans think you are an iziot and hate you. Even Mods think your stupid I have IM's proving so which i will not post.
Yea the cubs will win 70 games......:icon_roll i think only 30 games.

[Towelie]

The most mediocre team money can buy

By David Schoenfield
Page 2

Cardinals 6, Marlins 3. Tigers 5, Mets 4. Rockies 12, White Sox 4. Red Sox 4, Twins 4.

It's baseball season, baby, baseball season.

The big news of the offseason, other than the devastating information that A-Rod and Derek are no longer best friends, was the big money thrown at free agents -- and we mean Rich Garces-big money here.

At Page 2, however, we don't want to just groan and moan about these contracts. We pursue deeper questions, like: What if we had purchased the Tampa Bay Devil Rays in the offseason, released the whole team, and signed an entire roster of free agents. How good would our team be? Could we knock off the evil Yankees and evil Red Sox and win the division?

(Of course, what we're really asking is: Just how friggin' dumb are baseball general managers? But allow us our little fun here.)

So we constructed a 25-man roster, listed below with actual real-life contract terms. We'll then see how good our team is by running it through the Diamond Mind game simulation.

P.S.: The total value of contracts for our 25-man team is $963.5 million, including a 2007 payroll of $196 million ($2 million higher than the '06 Yankees). I think Garces just ate another doughnut.

Catcher: Bengie Molina, Giants (3 years, $16 million)
Why this was a bad contract: Can you imagine what he'll look like in three years? He's already slower than dirt. By 2009, he'll be another 30 pounds heavier and he'll have to roll himself to first base. Plus, his once-vaunted defense has slipped in recent years, from throwing out 45 percent of would-be base stealers in 2002 to just 18 percent last season.

Why this signing may work out: If the Giants can keep him away from the cream, maybe his body will hold out … ice cream, that is, ice cream. And whipped cream.

First base: Nomar Garciaparra, Dodgers (2 years, $18.5 million)
Why this was a bad contract: This is a great test to see if your GM read "Moneyball" or "The Winner Within." Do you sign the creaky comeback veteran (who still missed 40 games in his "injury-free" season) or play the rookie (James Loney) who tore it up in the bigs after hitting .380 in Triple-A? The difference in your decision: about $9 million per season.

Why this signing may work out: Tie games will be decided by penalty kicks starting in 2008.

Second base: Mark DeRosa, Cubs (3 years, $13 million)
Why this was a bad contract: Umm, let's see, the Cubs are overly right-handed and needed a lefty bat to hit right-handed pitching, so let's sign a guy who … can't hit right-handed pitching. Oh, and he's a 31-year-old utility guy coming off a career year in Texas (a good hitting park). And you wonder why it's been 99 years?

Why this signing may work out: At least the Cubs didn't wildly pay, so maybe they could just put up a couple billboards on the ivy to cover the sunk costs.

Third base: Aramis Ramirez, Cubs (5 years, $75 million)
Why this is a bad contract: Ramirez has obvious power -- 105 home runs the past three seasons -- but because he doesn't walk much his on-base percentage isn't terrific, making him a very good hitter instead of an elite one. Factor in that he's coming off his 26-to-28 years, often the peak seasons for players, and his "old player" skills, and Ramirez is a risky bet to keep performing at this level in 2011.

Why this signing may work out: He's healthier than Mark Prior and Kerry Wood.

Shortstop: Julio Lugo, Red Sox (4 years, $36 million)
Why this is a bad contract: It's Julio Lugo, former star of the Devil Rays! OK, seriously, Lugo is a plus fielder and decent hitter for a shortstop. And maybe that kind of player is now worth $9 million per year. But he'll be 34 in the final year of the deal. The last team to win a World Series with a shortstop that old? The 1980 Phillies with Larry Bowa.

Why this signing may work out: It's Boston! Who gives a crap about 2010!

Left field: Alfonso Soriano, Cubs (8 years, $136 million)
Why this is a bad contract: His career OBP is less than the league average. He could fail to replicate the career highs he established last year in OBP, home runs and slugging percentage. He may not adjust to center field (where the Cubs plan on playing him). He'll be 38 in the final year of the deal, making $18 million. The Cubs have proven the last 60 years that it's hard to win pennants with .330 OBP guys anchoring the lineup.

Why this signing may work out: Fantasy stats are now included in real standings!

Center field: Juan Pierre, Dodgers (5 years, $44 million)
Why this is a bad contract: Pierre's ranking the last four years in outs made among NL hitters: 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 1st.

Why this signing may work out: Pierre regains his 2004 form. (Hey, always pay for the highest potential a player may produce at, just in case he actually does!)

Right field: J.D. Drew, Red Sox (5 years, $74 million)
Why this is a bad contract: Umm, there's a slight chance he may get hurt or something.

Why this signing may work out: Actually … move away from the cliff, Red Sox fans. Drew gets on base (career .393 OBP), has power (career .512 slugging percentage) and has even played 145 and 146 games two of the past three seasons. He's been on five playoff teams the past seven seasons (with three different franchises). Doesn't that make him a winner? (Just sayin' …) Maybe he'll adjust just fine to the pressure of performing in Boston. And, finally, the Sox negotiated a possible out clause after three seasons anyway. (This message brought to you by Scott Boras.)

Designated hitter: Carlos Lee, Astros (6 years, $100 million)
Why this is a bad contract: Last time we checked, the NL still doesn't employ the DH. Like Ramirez, Lee's glossy RBI totals overstate his actual hitting value. He turns 31 … this year. How good will he be when he's 36?

Why this signing may work out: He's durable. He could post some monster power numbers thanks to that 265-foot wall in left field in Houston. The NL starts using the DH in 2010.

Starting pitcher: Barry Zito, Giants (7 years, $126 million)
Why this is a bad contract: He's more No. 2 starter than staff ace. His 1.403 WHIP last season is rather uninspiring. His 151/99 SO/BB ratio was hardly the stuff of Cy Young winners. His ERA over the past three seasons is 4.03. No pitcher has ever signed for this much money. (Well, Mike Hampton came close, and we all know how that turned out.) Rumored new girlfriend: Hilary Duff.

Why this signing may work out: He's left-handed, he never misses a start, he's moving to a good pitcher's park, he's moving to the National League, he's pitched well in the postseason, rumored new girlfriend isn't Lindsay Lohan.

The rest of the team:

C -- Henry Blanco, Cubs (2 years, $5.5 million)
UT -- Rich Aurilia, Giants (2 years, $8 million)
OF -- Gary Matthews Jr., Angels (5 years, $50 million)
OF -- Dave Roberts, Giants (3 years, $18 million)
OF/IF -- Aubrey Huff, Orioles (3 years, $20 million)

SP -- Gil Meche, Royals (5 years, $55 million)
SP -- Andy Pettitte, Yankees (1 year, $16 million)
SP -- Jeff Suppan, Brewers (4 years, $42 million)
SP -- Adam Eaton, Phillies (3 years, $24.5 million)

RP -- Miguel Batista, Mariners (3 years, $25 million)
RP -- Danys Baez, Orioles (3 years, $19 million)
RP -- Chad Bradford, Orioles (3 years, $10.5 million)
RP -- Jamie Walker, Orioles (3 years, $12 million)
RP -- Justin Speier, Angels (4 years, $18 million)
RP -- Mike Stanton, Reds (2 years, $5.5 million)

The results:

Kevin Malone
Victoria Aroxho/AP photo
Since Kevin Malone was fired by the Dodgers in 2001, the "new sheriff in town" has worked occasionally for Page 2 as a punchline.

So we placed our team (call them the "Kevin Malone All-Stars" if you wish) in the 2006 AL East, replacing the Devil Rays and using our players' 2006 statistics. We won 86 games in our first simulated season. We did another replay and went 73-89. And then 75-87. And 70-92.

Our team was mediocre. We just spent nearly $1 billion, and we had trouble cracking .500. Our average record over 10 replays? 77-85. We topped out at 88 wins. Our team hit for a decent average and cracked plenty of home runs, but the team on-base percentage hovered around .328 most seasons, so we never scored enough runs to overcome our below-average pitching. A rotation of Zito, Pettitte, Meche, Suppan and Eaton got shellacked regularly (just imagine if we had signed Jason Marquis).

The bottom line here is pretty obvious. The market was completely insane this winter. Major league general managers (and their owners) spent foolishly and unwisely. There is really no way to justify spending $136 million on Alfonso Soriano or $100 million on Carlos Lee or $55 million on Gil Meche. Look, Soriano and Lee are nice players. Baseball Prospectus ranks Soriano 33rd on its list of hitters (adjusted for position and park) for 2006 and Lee 38th. But they are not $100 million ballplayers -- not even close -- especially at their ages. But general managers do funny things when they have spare cash and pennant hopes.

We made the Kevin Malone joke. He was the GM the Dodgers hired in September 1998. He signed Kevin Brown for $105 million that offseason. Two years later he signed Darren Dreifort, a pitcher with a 39-45 career record, for $55 million. The Dodgers got 67 wins out of the two … and Malone was canned early in the 2001 season.

Kevin Malone discovered it wasn't easy to buy a pennant.

And, as the Cubs will surely find out, it still isn't easy.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=schoenfield/070301&sportCat=mlb

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=schoenfield/070301&sportCat=mlb
#1 He is Anti-Cubs
#2 Who cares he is a Sportswriter who couldnt possibly cut it in sports
#3 Nice try trying to make it not about the Mets in your own thread.
#4 Prove to me and everyone else why the Mets got better.

[Towelie]

Alou > Floyd
Reyes is a year older, a year better
Wright is a year older, a year better
No Bannister/Trax/Lima/Gonzalez/Soler/Zambrano/Williams in the staff
Ollie Perez will be a very good pitcher again
Best bullpen in the NL and probably the majors
We'll have a healthly Pedro throwing harder then he has in years for the last 3 months of the season
Pelfrey and Humber getting a shot at the rotation
Willie Randolph is the only manager to take his team to a 12 game improvement in the first and second year of his career and is only improving

And why does a 97 win team really need to improve? I mean we havent done enough to lose the 12 games we won the division by, and Philly certainly hasnt done anything to gain the 12 games back they finished by

We wont win by 12 again...Just 10... :)

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

Alou > Floyd
Reyes is a year older, a year better
Wright is a year older, a year better
No Bannister/Trax/Lima/Gonzalez/Soler/Zambrano/Williams in the staff
Ollie Perez will be a very good pitcher again
Best bullpen in the NL and probably the majors
We'll have a healthly Pedro throwing harder then he has in years for the last 3 months of the season
Pelfrey and Humber getting a shot at the rotation
Willie Randolph is the only manager to take his team to a 12 game improvement in the first and second year of his career and is only improving

And why does a 97 win team really need to improve? I mean we havent done enough to lose the 12 games we won the division by, and Philly certainly hasnt done anything to gain the 12 games back they finished by

We wont win by 12 again...Just 10... :)
Your Officially retarded Ok I am joining the crew here goes the ignore.

[Towelie]

Man I love when people call other people "retard" and still can't properly use the correct grammar of "you're"

Oh well, I guess 6th graders learn sometimes

[CM Mark]

Alou > Floyd
Reyes is a year older, a year better
Wright is a year older, a year better
No Bannister/Trax/Lima/Gonzalez/Soler/Zambrano/Williams in the staff
Ollie Perez will be a very good pitcher again
Best bullpen in the NL and probably the majors
We'll have a healthly Pedro throwing harder then he has in years for the last 3 months of the season
Pelfrey and Humber getting a shot at the rotation
Willie Randolph is the only manager to take his team to a 12 game improvement in the first and second year of his career and is only improving

And why does a 97 win team really need to improve? I mean we havent done enough to lose the 12 games we won the division by, and Philly certainly hasnt done anything to gain the 12 games back they finished by

We wont win by 12 again...Just 10... :)
Is he?
Is he?
Is he?
Good point.
Will he?
Are they?
Will he? (and what is this "we" shit? Do you work for the damn team? It's a THEY!)
Are they?
Is he?
And I got nothin on the last one

[Towelie]

Is he?
Is he?
Is he?
Good point.
Will he?
Are they?
Will he? (and what is this "we" shit? Do you work for the damn team? It's a THEY!)
Are they?
Is he?
And I got nothin on the last one


I love the originality there Jim Norton

Oh wait...

Yea, you're not Jim Noton

Give up the tired act

[CM Mark]

I love the originality there Jim Norton

Oh wait...

Yea, you're not Jim Noton

Give up the tired act
Oh, I'm sorry. I thought this was an Opie and Anthony message board, not a Mets message board.

[Towelie]

It is an Opie and Anthony message board

Regardless of whatever board it is, copying Jim Norton's tired act makes you look more like an ass then you are even trying to come as

[CM Mark]

It is an Opie and Anthony message board

Regardless of whatever board it is, copying Jim Norton's tired act makes you look more like an ass then you are even trying to come as
And being a Mets fan Zombie makes you look cool? Get over yourself. I'm a huge Met's fan myself, but I don't act like a Stern Zombie about it.

[Towelie]

I'm shocked I didn't get a FRRRRRUNNNKUS at the end of that one

[domelogic]

here frrrrrunnnnkuss are ya happy now

[KneeKnee]

Wow. I used to like reading this thread. I used to like posting this thread.

Now? Not so much.

Thanks guys. :icon_roll

[cosmic cow]

Alou and Green in the same outfield? Yuck..I'd rather play Chavez and Milledge

[Mother Shucker]

Alou and Green in the same outfield? Yuck..I'd rather play Chavez and Milledge
Well, if either gets hurt or plays like shit, you will see Lastings as the starter. Chavez will be the fourth OF'er.

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

Wow. I used to like reading this thread. I used to like posting this thread.

Now? Not so much.

Thanks guys. :icon_roll
there is only one person you should thank.

[Garyisajoke]

Close the thread. Season's over. Pedro had rotator cuff surger. He's out until August.

[krunchyfrogg]

Enormous Mets fan here, and I'm new to the board.

I've read this thread, and I can't figure how fucking Skank fans get off bashing the Mets THIS year, when the Mets (at least) made it farther than they did. And where the fuck did Phoolies and sCrUBS fans enter the conversation? The Phils have lost more games than any professional team EVER and the Cubs just suck, and always will.

[Frunkus]

here frrrrrunnnnkuss are ya happy now
NO, I am not.

[Frunkus]

Enormous Mets fan here, and I'm new to the board.

I've read this thread, and I can't figure how fucking Skank fans get off bashing the Mets THIS year, when the Mets (at least) made it farther than they did. And where the fuck did Phoolies and sCrUBS fans enter the conversation? The Phils have lost more games than any professional team EVER and the Cubs just suck, and always will.
I am with you. Really, there are only two team's fans that can give us shit now. At least the Yankee fans have all the rings. The Philly fans and the one world series in over 120 year Cub fans should shut the fuck up.

[Kid Brock]

Enormous Mets fan here, and I'm new to the board.

I've read this thread, and I can't figure how fucking Skank fans get off bashing the Mets THIS year, when the Mets (at least) made it farther than they did. And where the fuck did Phoolies and sCrUBS fans enter the conversation? The Phils have lost more games than any professional team EVER and the Cubs just suck, and always will.


Well if are really from the fictional City of Shermer (really Northbrook) you have to be the only Mets fan in that hood. And a word to the wise for you and Frunkus; telling other teams fans to shut the fuck up and stay out of your thread is only going to increase the flaming.

[Frunkus]

And a word to the wise for you and Frunkus; telling other teams fans to shut the fuck up and stay out of your thread is only going to increase the flaming.
Oh, sorry king of Wackbag, if I knew I would be flaming you, I would have kept my mouth shut.:rolleyes:

[Kid Brock]

Learn how to read. I said you are increasing "your" chances of getting flamed. You dope.

[krunchyfrogg]

Thanks for the tip.

[JMCC]

Soler released

http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/news/art...=.jsp&c_id=nym

I got to say i'm surprised. Why not just send him to the minors and let him work on his stuff, maybe there's more to the story...

[Towelie]

Soler released

http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/news/art...=.jsp&c_id=nym

I got to say i'm surprised. Why not just send him to the minors and let him work on his stuff, maybe there's more to the story...

I think he realized he was buried and probably asked for his release, or the Mets were not satisfied with the shape he showed up to camp in

Oh the plus side Lasto and Pelfrey are looking great...I hope they trash Green and Park and let the kids play

Either way, I'll be headed to the game up in Port St. Lucie on Thursday against the Red Sox

[JMCC]

That's the thing, he lost a lot of weight and it looked like he had the commitment.

And is not like he was horrible so far, he had 2 good outings and 2 bad ones. He has options left and can be sent to the minors. Why not just send him?

However I can see him asking for his release though. Maybe he felt he won't get a fair chance with the Mets?

[Elite Pest 420]

as a devoted mets fan for my entire life span, i'd like to say...good luck mets, i have my tivo set again

[Towelie]

That's the thing, he lost a lot of weight and it looked like he had the commitment.

And is not like he was horrible so far, he had 2 good outings and 2 bad ones. He has options left and can be sent to the minors. Why not just send him?

However I can see him asking for his release though. Maybe he felt he won't get a fair chance with the Mets?

Soler really hasn't had an adequate opportunity to prove himself, and I assume that the Mets management is sane. Therefore, I'd guess that they have problems with his work ethic or personal habits (drugs? gambling? steroids? hidden injury?). Something smells wrong.

[Shpadoinkle]

Soler really hasn't had an adequate opportunity to prove himself, and I assume that the Mets management is sane. Therefore, I'd guess that they have problems with his work ethic or personal habits (drugs? gambling? steroids? hidden injury?). Something smells wrong.

Soler was horrible his last 2 or 3 starts in the Majors and continuing to the spring where he's just been bad (8.22 ERA). He's a finesse pitcher who has no control, you can't do that. I've definitely seen enough of Soler in a Mets uniform, after seeing him go batter after batter of nothing but balls. He's just extremely frustrating to watch.

[JMCC]

More details on Soler, i guess this sums it up...

http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/ba...ong_soler.html

The Mets finally reached their breaking point with Alay Soler this morning and released the Cuban defector less than three years after signing him for $2.8 million. While it is unusual to cut loose a player with two weeks remaining in spring training, one Mets official referred to Soler as a "lost cause" and indicated that the front office was fed up with him after a lackluster performance Monday in Viera. Soler allowed two runs in 1 2/3 innings, including a solo homer to the Nats' Ryan Zimmerman, and team officials also were upset with his velocity, which maxed out in the low 80s.

Asked about the move this morning, pitching coach Rick Peterson said, "The inconsistencies were consistent." Still, it was only a week earlier that manager Willie Randolph praised Soler for showing up at camp in better shape than previous years, even mentioning that he was on the stationary bike next to him during Randolph's morning workouts. But Soler had an 8.22 ERA this spring, and the Mets came to the conclusion that his performance no longer merited a spot on the their staff -- at any level.

Soler, 27, would have earned $826,000 this season in the majors and $620,000 in the minors. Before his defection, Soler went 10-4 with a 2.01 ERA in 18 games for the Cuban national team in 2003. He did have a few highlights last season for the Mets, and the best of those select moments came on June 10, when he pitched a two-hit shutout against the Diamondbacks in Arizona.

[Frunkus]

"Drown drown Cuban drown, drown Cuban drown."

[Aizazzle]

I'm actually listening to the Mets vs Tigers right it's a good game Tigers are up 1-0 and it's now top 8

[Frunkus]

I'm actually listening to the Mets vs Tigers right it's a good game Tigers are up 1-0 and it's now top 8
Hell, I can't even WATCH pre season sports, how you listen to it is beyond me.

[Frunkus]

Not for nothing, but the starting pitching may not be as bad as advertised. I think Maine will be fine and Pelfry may be awsome.

[Papagolash]

stickied

[Frunkus]

Not for nothing, but the starting pitching may not be as bad as advertised. I think Maine will be fine and Pelfry may be awsome.
Of course, as our relievers drop like fly's, they may need to be.:icon_sad:

[Elite Pest 420]

so how's pre-season going, i think i may have only caught like 10 minutes of a game for the whole stretch....please tell me it looks like they'll have a good season...

[buya97]

so how's pre-season going, i think i may have only caught like 10 minutes of a game for the whole stretch....please tell me it looks like they'll have a good season...

You cant really judge anything from spring training, heck the season doesnt REALLY start until close to or right after the trade deadline, most teams are still in it up til that point, unless your name is Devil Rays or Royals.
I think the Mets will have a tougher time then they did last year, Philly is better and I just have this bad feeling Atlanta wont lay down this year like last. But as someone said, the rotation will be fine, and plus add Pedro in after August (Hopefully)

[TheJew]

10-20 so far...i can't wait for the regular season :)

[LilJimmyRbinson]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=mzmQx5VDZw8

I usually don't like Cowherd but he hit the nail on the head here. I really don't hate the Mets, but they really do act like a AAA team sometimes. Just like Jimmy said...out of touch cornballs.

[buya97]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=mzmQx5VDZw8

I usually don't like Cowherd but he hit the nail on the head here. I really don't hate the Mets, but they really do act like a AAA team sometimes. Just like Jimmy said...out of touch cornballs.

honestly, thats why i like them, they arent like any other team, mr met maybe a dumb mascot, but he's our mascot, and also hes funny to look at....btw cowherd is an ass, i'll never forgive him for the disrespect towards eddie guerrero after he died :mad4:

[LilJimmyRbinson]

honestly, thats why i like them, they arent like any other team, mr met maybe a dumb mascot, but he's our mascot, and also hes funny to look at....btw cowherd is an ass, i'll never forgive him for the disrespect towards eddie guerrero after he died :mad4:

I love that you can have Mr. Met at your party. He's still AAA though.

[MAVRIC305]

I love that you can have Mr. Met at your party. He's still AAA though.

They do not have the aura of a Yankees or Red Sox, but they are not AAA. They are a fun family atmosphere, there is nothing wrong it. They are the Islanders to the New York Rangers. I think the little mascot running around is gay too, but it's for the kids.

They are the blue collar team in New York. Bottom line. We are anything but a AAA team. We have one of the largest team salaries in the league.

Also, I want to fuck Mr. Met. I love him...... No homo? :action-sm

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

They are the blue collar team in New York. Bottom line.
Blue Collar? The stadium is filled with Jews when was the last time a Jew picked up a hammer or a screw gun? Far from Blue Collar. What he was saying is the stuff they put on is sad. The Apple is sad the gay ethnic nights sad the way silly opening song for the Mets pregame sad. Even the Lets go Mets chant is really really sad. Listen to it I feel like I am listening to a little league game. I am no Yankee fan far from it but I would rather watch the game in the blechers than front row of Shea. Sorry just an unbiased opinion from a non Yankee or Met Fan.

[MAVRIC305]

Blue Collar? The stadium is filled with Jews when was the last time a Jew picked up a hammer or a screw gun? Far from Blue Collar. What he was saying is the stuff they put on is sad. The Apple is sad the gay ethnic nights sad the way silly opening song for the Mets pregame sad. Even the Lets go Mets chant is really really sad. Listen to it I feel like I am listening to a little league game. I am no Yankee fan far from it but I would rather watch the game in the blechers than front row of Shea. Sorry just an unbiased opinion from a non Yankee or Met Fan.

Jews? Jews? Yeah, you got a point.....

I think the rich Jews are just a small portion of the fan base. I was using "Blue collar" as metaphor. I meant compared to the Yankees.

I always thought the Mets theme song was gay, but it has grown on me as of late. No homo.

There is nothing wrong with "Let's go Mets" every team has a "Let's go" chant.

I agree, the apple was OK in the 80's, but has run it's course.

100% agree on the ethnic nights, but it started when they were having trouble getting fans to come to the games. They should kill it at this point. Unless they change the names, like "Slant-eyed night" "Landscaper night" "Crime Family night" "Drunk night" "I think you get it at this point night"

Thank you for the unbiased opinion. :xyxthumbs

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

Jews? Jews? Yeah, you got a point.....

I think the rich Jews are just a small portion of the fan base. I was using "Blue collar" as metaphor. I meant compared to the Yankees.

I always thought the Mets theme song was gay, but it has grown on me as of late. No homo.

There is nothing wrong with "Let's go Mets" every team has a "Let's go" chant.

I agree, the apple was OK in the 80's, but has run it's course.

100% agree on the ethnic nights, but it started when they were having trouble getting fans to come to the games. They should kill it at this point. Unless they change the names, like "Slant-eyed night" "Landscaper night" "Crime Family night" "Drunk night" "I think you get it at this point night"

Thank you for the unbiased opinion. :xyxthumbs
Next afternoon game sat or sunday listen to the lets go mets chant sounds like the field is filled with 4th graders.
Also it drives me crazy when people say NY'ers are the best fans. Most are fairweather proof of the ethnic nights. If you need to do things like that your fanbase is not good. "IF" the team ends up in the dumps because of injuries and somehow is out in august or way behind the stadium will be empty. That is not right. It happened in the early 90's when the mets spent a fortune for guys like Vince Coleman and friends the fans never showed up cause they werent good. anyways good luck,

[LilJimmyRbinson]

My favorite thing about the Mets was the death threats that ensued after the "Our team, our town" song last year.

Oh yeah and Mets fans have lost their right to bash A-Rod and or Jeter thanks to these:

http://bugsandcranks.com/wp-content/images/phillies/300_headbandWright.jpg

http://bugsandcranks.com/wp-content/images/phillies/300_Jose_20Reyes.jpg

[TheJew]

Blue Collar? The stadium is filled with Jews when was the last time a Jew picked up a hammer or a screw gun?

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

[Mother Shucker]

The Mets are one of the most loved teams in the country. I have no idea what you guys are talking about. I have gone to several stadiums to watch them, and always find a bunch of Met fans from that state or traveling like myself. You see very few fans from other teams at Met games.

[Frunkus]

Next afternoon game sat or sunday listen to the lets go mets chant sounds like the field is filled with 4th graders.
Also it drives me crazy when people say NY'ers are the best fans. Most are fairweather proof of the ethnic nights. If you need to do things like that your fanbase is not good. "IF" the team ends up in the dumps because of injuries and somehow is out in august or way behind the stadium will be empty. That is not right. It happened in the early 90's when the mets spent a fortune for guys like Vince Coleman and friends the fans never showed up cause they werent good. anyways good luck,
So, have you compared the Mets attendence to the Snakes attendence lately? Jesus, there is absoulutly nothing to do in the middle of the desert and you still can not out draw them.

[Palerider4146]

[quote=Ol'BloodyBottom]Blue Collar? The stadium is filled with Jews when was the last time a Jew picked up a hammer or a screw gun? quote]

Well it was the jews who actually nailed Jesus to the cross, so I would say about 2007 years ago.

[Mother Shucker]

Well it was the jews who actually nailed Jesus to the cross, so I would say about 2007 years ago.

Heh, I nominate that one fro "Line O the day".

[Mother Shucker]

Nice mother fucking start.

[JMCC]

It was a great win. Simply put the Mes played great defense. From Reyes, Valentin, Beltran, Alou and Lo duca. We had 4 DP's, that's just nuts.

1 down 161 to go

[CM Mark]

I was following the game online as I was watching Wrestlemania, great win.

[Mother Shucker]

1 down 161 to go

That old gag..................actually, it is 172 to go, I want a fucking ring.

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

[quote=Ol'BloodyBottom]Blue Collar? The stadium is filled with Jews when was the last time a Jew picked up a hammer or a screw gun? quote]

Well it was the jews who actually nailed Jesus to the cross, so I would say about 2007 years ago.
Actually the Jews couldnt even do that that the Romans had to do it.

[Palerider4146]

[quote=Palerider4146]
Actually the Jews couldnt even do that that the Romans had to do it.

I know, but at the time I had to run with it.

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

[quote=Ol'BloodyBottom]

I know, but at the time I had to run with it.
Funny anyways

[JMCC]

I finally got my tickets today and the Mets were nice enough to send me some cool gifts. :icon_mrgr

[TheJew]

the only bad part about the game last night was that wagner didn't get a save...

[JMCC]

12:32 PM - Quote: La Russa On Beltran's Outfield Assist

...posted by Anthony De Rosa...

Tony La Russa commented after the game regarding Carlos Beltran's perfect strike of a throw to nail David Eckstien at the plate.

"kind of a foolish throw."

"I don't think you make that throw too often, and he pulled it off," the manager added. "That's the kind of night they had."

...as sheaguevara pointed out in the comments of the previous post, whats foolish is sending eckstien, when you're down 4 runs and you have albert pujols on deck...

It is foolish to test Beltran's arm if you ask me. :action-sm

[CM Mark]

It is foolish to test Beltran's arm if you ask me. :action-sm
Yeah, definatly foolish to test it. He never used it to swing last year.

Good to see that he does actually remember how to swing

[Mother Shucker]

Tony must have been drunk when he said that.

[JMCC]

Gary, Keith and Ron "mustache commercial" (http://www.sny.tv/multimedia/index.jsp)

[Mother Shucker]

So, what do you think about our starting pitching so far?

[JMCC]

Is hard not get excited, but if Glavine and El Duque(especially El Duque) can stay healthy and perform the way they have we have the chance to be really good, i'm talking 100+ wins good.

[TheJew]

Is hard not get excited, but if Glavine and El Duque(especially El Duque) can stay healthy and perform the way they have we have the chance to be really good, i'm talking 100+ wins good.

that's a bold statement...


i'm watching this game now and this team is looking fantastic...especially if maine and pelfry can get 10+ wins this seaso



yes i am aware that is ambitious

[Mother Shucker]

Tony must have been drunk when he said that.
X3.

[Fred Told Me]

that's a bold statement...


i'm watching this game now and this team is looking fantastic...especially if maine and pelfry can get 10+ wins this seaso



yes i am aware that is ambitious

Maine should be able to win 10 games by July or August. That's not a problem. Getting Pelfrey 10 wins is the goal.

[JMCC]

10-0 top of the ninth. Nice sweep for our Mets.

Braves are next on Friday and we should see Milledge start for the 1st time...

Beltran 2 HR's 4 RBI's, my fantasy team thanks you :D

[Mother Shucker]

Anyone else going to opening day Monday? I will be there real early with the BBQ.

[OandA_Chris]

i will be there monday

[Mother Shucker]

I will be tailgating with a group from a Met board. Come by and say hello. We will be at the "grassy knoll". It is a strip of mud in the corner of the main parking lot. If you follow the left field foul line, and extend it to the parking lot, it points to the knoll. Here it and I are:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a176/rustytrombone1027/NLCSgame7GSS.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a176/rustytrombone1027/NLCSgame7Shea2.jpg

and one of my niece and I:

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a176/rustytrombone1027/MetgameMeandAmber2.jpg

[Fred Told Me]

Mets 3-0 Phillies 0-3. Hey guys we're 3 games ahead of the "team to beat" LOL.

[frankjg]

What a start.. I'm psyched for the Atlanta series this weekend. Is it too early in the season to call this a crucial series?

[Mother Shucker]

Get rid of that sig ASAP.

[Mother Shucker]

So, what do you think about our starting pitching so far?
X4!!!!!!

[CM Mark]

What a start.. I'm psyched for the Atlanta series this weekend. Is it too early in the season to call this a crucial series?
yes

By the way, does anyone know if Shea is still doing the Bring an empty pepsi can or bottle to the stadium to wednesday night home games to get in for free?

[TheJew]

i totally forgot to watch this game...fuck they have it here in va on tbs. it's 11-1 holy shit...

[MAVRIC305]

We are now 4 - 0 baby! Great all around game. The Mets look great. Let's hope we can play like this all season.

[JMCC]

And to think people were talking shit because we had a crappy ST record.

Very good game, our pitching has been incredible so far. Burgos and smith were awesome, that slider by Smith was fucking nasty.

Tomorrow we face Smoltz, but we counter with Glavine.

Should be a good one.

[Budyzir]

This is fun!

[MAVRIC305]

And to think people were talking shit because we had a crappy ST record.

Very good game, our pitching has been incredible so far. Burgos and smith were awesome, that slider by Smith was fucking nasty.

Tomorrow we face Smoltz, but we counter with Glavine.

Should be a good one.

Only idiots worry about spring training. The defense and pitching always shows it's true face during the regular season.

Those relievers looked good in the mop-up role. I hope they look that good when we need it most. Smith does look like a good replacement for Bradford at the moment...

I want to beat up on Smoltz, but we never do. I hope Glavine can have a solid start. A win tomorrow would be SWEEEEEET.

[frankjg]

Get rid of that sig ASAP.

Sig's gone - and deservedly so

What a friggen start

[Mother Shucker]

By the way, does anyone know if Shea is still doing the Bring an empty pepsi can or bottle to the stadium to wednesday night home games to get in for free?
They got rid of it before last season. If you sign up for the "Flushing Flash" at www.mets.com, they have dates that they sell you $5 bleacher seats, which, by the way, is better then having to get there 4 hours early and wait in line. I get there 3 hours before games, but I am BBQ'ing and drinking, not standing on line with a bunch of Dominicans (not that there is anything wrong with Domincans:action-sm ).

[Budyzir]

Anyone else going to opening day Monday? I will be there real early with the BBQ.

I'll be there, depending on what time I get there, I'll drop by to say hi.

[Budyzir]

NWS Forecast for Monday;

Monday: Mostly sunny, with a high near 49. West wind between 10 and 18 mph.

[Mother Shucker]

NWS Forecast for Monday;

Monday: Mostly sunny, with a high near 49. West wind between 10 and 18 mph.
NICE!

[JMCC]

What a shitty game. The first 4 games the Mets win due to their D, now we lose because of it :rolleyes: If they don't make those 2 errors, then its a tie game, but that's baseball.

And what was Willie doing leaving Glavine to pitch in the botton of the 7? i thought for sure he would bring in Smith, but nooooo willie waits until the bases are loaded.

The only way to spin this is that the only team that can beat the Mets is the Mets.

I guess an 162-0 season was not meant to be :action-sm

Delgado needs a new fucking glove.

[CM Mark]

They got rid of it before last season. If you sign up for the "Flushing Flash" at www.mets.com, they have dates that they sell you $5 bleacher seats, which, by the way, is better then having to get there 4 hours early and wait in line. I get there 3 hours before games, but I am BBQ'ing and drinking, not standing on line with a bunch of Dominicans (not that there is anything wrong with Domincans:action-sm ).
Damn, oh well. Anyone going to wednesday or thursday's game? I want to go to one, and if a fellow wackbagger is at one or the other, then I shall go to that game

[TheJew]

....how the fuck is the first pitch that el duque throws today is a hr.


and nice stolen base jose

[Mother Shucker]

....how the fuck is the first pitch that el duque throws today is a hr.


Good news is that it took Atlanta three innings to get another hit.

2-1 Mets.

I am cooking for tomorrow already. Steaks, marinated chicken breast, and burgers on the grill. Home made macaroni and potato salad. Coors light. Breakfast of champions.

[Budyzir]

Good news is that it took Atlanta three innings to get another hit.

2-1 Mets.

I am cooking for tomorrow already. Steaks, marinated chicken breast, and burgers on the grill. Home made macaroni and potato salad. Coors light. Breakfast of champions.

Shit, nice menu!

[KneeKnee]

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Excellent Comeback! Hope all who made it to the home opener had a blast!

[JMCC]

What a game.

Awesome comeback, 7 runs on the botton of the 8th, i wish i could have been there.

Phillies sure are the team to beat huh :action-sm :haha7:

[Mother Shucker]

Had a blast. Fucking Rollins is an F-tard. He stunk on ice. Maine was wild as hell, but kept us in it. That 8th. inning had the place jumping.

I am the guy in the jersey on the left:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a176/rustytrombone1027/Openingday2007.jpg

[Budyzir]

Great game, bottom of the 8th was incredible!

What a difference between the sun and the shade, our seats were in the Mezz box seating in left, all nice, sunny and warm. Then I froze whenever I went to get a beer.

I have some pics of the construction of the new stadium, it looks great. I'll post them latter, to buzzed and tired now.

[Jerry1]

Came back from the game myself a little while ago. Was great, especially when Rollins messed up and the entire stadium was going "JIMMY ROLLINS!"

Was my first home opener game ever!

[Mother Shucker]

Yeah Bud, I was in the Loge in right under the overhang. My tailgate was so warm I was only in a long sleeve with my jersey (see above pic). It was cold as hell in my seats and put my jacket on, pulled up the hood, and wore gloves. That was the only negative of the day. WE made it there in 40 minutes. Had a great tailgate (boy can I cook on a grill). The game was fucking fun (if not a bit long). And we made it home (North Babylon) in 45 minutes.

[OandA_Chris]

Great way to Break in Shea for the 2007 season.

[Mother Shucker]

Did anyone see todays Post? There was an article on Endy Chavez and Jose Reyes where the author THREE times referenced the Mets being in last years World Series. Another example of the media just printing anything it wants regardless of the facts. I know it is a "who cares" thing, but Jesus H. Christ, you would think you would get your facts correct if you write for a major NY newspaper.

[JMCC]

I stopped reading the Post years ago because of shit like that. I just refuse to read it.

[OandA_Chris]

great win last night. taking 2 out of 3 from the phillies always good.

[JMCC]

Its official, Pelfrey is in the rotation and to noones surprise Milledge was sent down.

Lets hope Pelfrey has a good outing tonight.

[Mother Shucker]

Hey, not pretty, but a win is a win. The Braves getting spanked, we are tied for first.

[frankjg]

Did anyone see todays Post? There was an article on Endy Chavez and Jose Reyes where the author THREE times referenced the Mets being in last years World Series. Another example of the media just printing anything it wants regardless of the facts. I know it is a "who cares" thing, but Jesus H. Christ, you would think you would get your facts correct if you write for a major NY newspaper.

Yeah, I read it on the train coming home the other night.. I had to read the first paragraph - 5 - times because I thought I was loosing it.. I'm thinking, the Mets were in the f'ing series.. I dont remember that...

[Mother Shucker]

Sheesh, El Duque making the Nats look good. Lot's of game left though.

[OandA_Chris]

Fucking rain is starting to piss me off. John Maine really got fucked over.

[OandA_Chris]

Moises FUCKING Alou what a game.

[Tax Kuntz]

Sweep!

Is a 1 game series a sweep?

[JMCC]

Good solid win, hitting and aside from the walks(3 DP took care of that) our pitching was efficient.

And i said this before, but Smith is nasty. And you can't forget about Burgos, hitting 100 mph on the radar, not too shabby

[CM Mark]

Sweep!

Is a 1 game series a sweep?
Close enough in my opinion. YAY SWEEP!!

[Mother Shucker]

Rollins is right, the Phils are the team to beat. And beat. And beat. And........

[JMCC]

Mets are pounding Willis :icon_mrgr

[Mother Shucker]

Yeah, we have no pitching. I wish we had a staff like Philly...... :fu:

[JMCC]

If the ref calls a strike on that check swig by Cabrera, then who knows how long the no hit would have lasted...

[Mother Shucker]

If the ref calls a strike on that check swig by Cabrera, then who knows how long the no hit would have lasted...
It is an ump sir, not a ref.

[JMCC]

It is an ump sir, not a ref.

you got me, i suck :icon_redf

[Shpadoinkle]

Awesome little road trip, lets hope they bring these bats and the pitching back for the Braves series this weekend.

[OandA_Chris]

What a catch by Valentin there in the 5th.

[Mother Shucker]

Not liking our match ups this weekend. Hudson sure put the kibosh on our hitting, no?

[OandA_Chris]

Its great to see that Perez had a good start. It was a big game. (atleast as big as it can be in april)

[OandA_Chris]

Joe Smith what a big strike out.

[JMCC]

Great way to rebound after last nights game. Perez had a nice game 6.2 innings, 9 K's and more importantly, no walks.

Smoltz and Glavine pitch tomorrow and lucky for me i'll be there :)

[Mother Shucker]

Yes, nice bounce back game JMCC, enjoy the game tomorrow.

[Mother Shucker]

NEW YORK (AP) -- A 40-year-old man arrested at Shea Stadium on Friday night is accused of trying to distract an Atlanta Braves pitcher and shortstop with a high-powered flashlight.

Frank Martinez was charged with interference with a professional sporting event and second-degree reckless endangerment, Queens District Attorney Richard Brown said Saturday.

Authorities said Martinez flashed the powerful light at the players in the bottom of the eighth inning from his seat behind home plate. He was quickly ejected from the game.

"The defendant's alleged actions recklessly endangered the lives of players and spectators and caused a temporary delay to the game," Brown said.

The hullabaloo began at about 10:15 p.m. as the Braves were leading the Mets 7-0. Tim Hudson was on the mound facing Mets pinch-hitter Endy Chavez when, investigators said, Martinez turned the beam on the Braves pitcher and shortstop Edgar Renteria.

Renteria complained to umpire Paul Emmel, who then called time out and alerted security. The security officers removed Martinez and found a "a small, streamline flashlight" in his backpack, Brown said.

Martinez was still jailed Saturday, and unavailable for comment. He was scheduled to remain behind bars until at least the evening, when he had an arraignment scheduled in Queens Criminal Court. Queens prosecutors said Martinez did not have a lawyer yet. If convicted, he faces up to a year in jail and a $5,000 fine.

A law making it expressly illegal to interfere with a professional sporting event was passed by the city in 2003 following a disruptive incident involving fashion designer Calvin Klein.

Klein stepped onto the basketball court at Madison Square Garden in March 2003 to speak with player Latrell Sprewell while a Knicks game was in progress.

The Braves won Friday's game 7-3.

[OandA_Chris]

NEW YORK (AP) -- A 40-year-old man arrested at Shea Stadium on Friday night is accused of trying to distract an Atlanta Braves pitcher and shortstop with a high-powered flashlight.

Frank Martinez was charged with interference with a professional sporting event and second-degree reckless endangerment, Queens District Attorney Richard Brown said Saturday.

Authorities said Martinez flashed the powerful light at the players in the bottom of the eighth inning from his seat behind home plate. He was quickly ejected from the game.

"The defendant's alleged actions recklessly endangered the lives of players and spectators and caused a temporary delay to the game," Brown said.

The hullabaloo began at about 10:15 p.m. as the Braves were leading the Mets 7-0. Tim Hudson was on the mound facing Mets pinch-hitter Endy Chavez when, investigators said, Martinez turned the beam on the Braves pitcher and shortstop Edgar Renteria.

Renteria complained to umpire Paul Emmel, who then called time out and alerted security. The security officers removed Martinez and found a "a small, streamline flashlight" in his backpack, Brown said.

Martinez was still jailed Saturday, and unavailable for comment. He was scheduled to remain behind bars until at least the evening, when he had an arraignment scheduled in Queens Criminal Court. Queens prosecutors said Martinez did not have a lawyer yet. If convicted, he faces up to a year in jail and a $5,000 fine.

A law making it expressly illegal to interfere with a professional sporting event was passed by the city in 2003 following a disruptive incident involving fashion designer Calvin Klein.

Klein stepped onto the basketball court at Madison Square Garden in March 2003 to speak with player Latrell Sprewell while a Knicks game was in progress.

The Braves won Friday's game 7-3.

i saw that what dick.

[MAVRIC305]

Ahh, it's the Braves... He was just trying to help the team.

[Mother Shucker]

Well, the bullpen was due to fuck up a game sooner or later, just wish for Glvines sake it was later.

[Budyzir]

Bullpen and errors.

[JMCC]

What a frustrating game. After Reyes hit that 3 run triple i thought for sure we would win the game, but Schoenewise had to fuck it up :mad4:

What pissed me off is, why not let Burgos pitch to Renteria, the whole lefty/righty matchups is so overrated :rolleyes:, but if Willie is going to take out Burgos because of a lefty coming up, then why in the hell do you keep Schoenewise out there against the righty :huh:

[KneeKnee]

Cant win them all.

:icon_evil

[JMCC]

I guess all Delagdo needed to get his power back was to get hit on his wrist, maybe Wright should give that a try...

Maine goes to 3-0, and proving that last years post season performance wasn't a fluke.

[KneeKnee]

Really liking Maine right now.

[OandA_Chris]

Maine goes to 3-0, and proving that last years post season performance wasn't a fluke.

x2

[JCR16]

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/3168/xx13qc5.th.jpg (http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xx13qc5.jpg)
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/4991/36481862ff3.th.jpg (http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=36481862ff3.jpg)
http://imageshack.us/thumbnmail.png (http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mjje3.gif)
:clap:

[Mother Shucker]

Hell of a win, two outs, two strikes, no one on, down a run, to there closer. Sweet.

[MAVRIC305]

What a wa