2007 Boston Red Sox Thread

[mik3]

How many of Reyes' blown saves are against the Red Sox? wow

[fuckwit]

How many of Reyes' blown saves are against the Red Sox? wow

but they kept him in for the whole inning and thats what counts. he finished what he started. managing is for queers.

[norton23]

CONGRATULATIONS
Boston Red Sox!!
2007 Playoff Team:clap:

What a great year! The younger guys have stepped it up as of late, and soon everybody will be ready to go (Manny), as Dice-K looked solid, Becket looked solid, Schilling, and the rest, or pitching is set, our bats are ready, let's go fuck em up!

[GDRC]

They should still try for the division, but "genius" theo probably won't want they to and want to shut everyone down.

[TreeFortRichard]

i am sure there is some money ball reason for NOT winning the division...well, beckett has a better road era...and we're more likely to be in a save situation on the road with pap's being healthy and it get's chilly at fenway...so let's rest everyone...

Hey did you pull manny away from the fryolater and let him know we're in the playoffs, and he can rest now?

[Sidekick Dave]

I must say, I can breathe much easier after last night. I was skeptical and didn't think that they could even make the post season up until a few days ago. I'm not fairweather for I've been rooting for them since I was seven. I was visiting my mother and helping her hang pictures and when I turned on ESPN, I saw the score, I was so releived. I would still like to have them win the AL East, and whether that happens is anyone's guess. But for now, I have to go to stub hub to get playoff tickets. Oh yea!

[Danesy]

CONGRATULATIONS
Boston Red Sox!!
2007 Playoff Team:clap:

What a great year! The younger guys have stepped it up as of late, and soon everybody will be ready to go (Manny), as Dice-K looked solid, Becket looked solid, Schilling, and the rest, or pitching is set, our bats are ready, let's go fuck em up!

QFT!!!

Just give me Cleveland in the first round and I am happy!!! WHOOOO!!!!

[norton23]

What's the scenerio right now? I think we win the East we play Aneheim still, if not it's us and Cleveland? Either way I see the yankees beating either Cleveland or Aneheim and facing us:clap: We can take em',,,,,,I hope, but god just typing that I saw A-Rod smack a homerun and Possada hitting a game winning,,,nevermind.

(jeez time to focus on one game at a time,,,lol. I hope tonights stankies game is on national tv,,,i'll be watching, otherwise dinner with my g/f will consist of me checking my cell every five seconds to get the score. Kind of cool I have up to date scores and can hit 1 and get live pitch by pitch, even shows where the pitch landed.)

[norton23]

I don't know what it was, if it was just me getting more into the games since the regular season is ending or what, but the sox seemed to have a different feel/look to them. I think a big part of that was having Ramirez back in the lineup, (and hitting his first at bat, then scoring, and moving real quick around the basepath in the process= he's 110%). Not sure what it was, but we will see if it sticks. I guess this sums it up



Manny Ramirez returned to the lineup after missing 24 games, while Jacoby Ellsbury and David Ortiz knocked in two runs each behind Curt Schilling as Boston reduced its magic number to win the AL East crown to three.

:clap:

3

[norton23]

shit, I was wondering why they were doing such early game coverage on NESN,,game on! Let's see how Youkalis holds up.

[norton23]

Manny is kicking ass!!!!! 5-4 SOX, a lil' nervous about Lester though, that was a big homerun to give up.

EDIT DUE TO ANOTHER FUCKING HOMERUN :( FUUUUCK 5-5

[norton23]

Ortiz is beating the shit out of the left field wall

11-5 sox

[mik3]

Who pitches a game four for the sox, Buchholz or Wakefield?

I'd say Buchholz, since he's probably the third best starter on the team right now.

[norton23]

Who pitches a game four for the sox, Buchholz or Wakefield?

I'd say Buchholz, since he's probably the third best starter on the team right now.

Buchholz has zero playoff expierence

MAGIC NUMBER= 2

[mik3]

talent > experience

Matsuzaka has none either and Wakefield's career playoff ERA is 6+.

[norton23]

talent > experience

Matsuzaka has none either and Wakefield's career playoff ERA is 6+.


Wake is struggling but I really think he would be better off in the Playoff's, then again who knows what will happen, it's so hard to tell. You could throw Bucholtz into the mix and he could pitch a perfect game, or he could have a massive meltdown and destroy his confidence. Tough call.

[mik3]

They own the Angels though so who knows.

Chances are the Indians pick the short series if they have the best record so the Yankees can't pitch Wang/Pettitte twice and have Joba pretty much for the whole series.

That leaves the Sox able to pitch Beckett and Schilling twice.

[BleedingAsshole]

I think the only way the whole playoff scenario works in the favor of the Sox, is if they end up playing Cleveland in the 1st round, and allow the Yankees to be pwnd by the Angels.

I know going up against CC and Carmona seems really daunting in a short series, but it will be easier than going up against the Yankees in the ALCS

[SNARLINZ]

J.D Drew will have a higher batting average in the post season than A-Fraud.You heard it here 1st

[norton23]

J.D Drew will have a higher batting average in the post season than A-Fraud.You heard it here 1st


he could choke, he's a grade a pussy and when things don't go his way he chokes.

[norton23]

Jessica Alba caught herpes from an ex-boyfriend, it has been claimed.
The 'Fantastic Four' star - recently voted FHM's Sexiest Woman Alive 2007 - previously dated New York Yankees baseball star Derek Jeter and during their relationship she allegedly contracted the sexually transmitted disease.
A source who worked as Jessica's assistant at the time claims they had to replenish her Valtrex prescription - a treatment for genital herpes - on a regular basis, according to website L.A. Rag Mag.
Jeter has also dated Mariah Carey, Vanessa Minnillo and most recently Justin Timberlake's new girlfriend Jessica Biel (http://people.monstersandcritics.com/news/article_1341360.php/Did_Jeter_give_Alba_the_Herpes#).
Seventy per cent of herpes spreading is said to happen when there is no sign of infection, according to a US STD awareness campaign.
Jessica, 26, recently split from lover Cash Warren because he wouldn't marry her.
The 'Sin City' actress, who reportedly called time on their two-and-a-half year romance during an emotional telephone conversation last month, grew tired of waiting for the movie producer to propose.
A source said: "He wasn't ready for marriage, and Jessica is. It's as simple as that. It's kind of cold that people are saying she has just finished with him, because it isn't like that."
The pair met on the set of the first 'Fantastic Four' film in 2005, in which Jessica starred and Cash worked as a director's assistant.

[BleedingAsshole]

:haha7:

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[norton23]

:haha7:

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HAHAHAHA HOLY SHIT :D

[mik3]

I thought the Jeter herpes thing was common knowledge. It first came out last year some time and then was REALLY out when Jessica Biel's people talked about it like crazy.

[Sidekick Dave]

I thought the Jeter herpes thing was common knowledge. It first came out last year some time and then was REALLY out when Jessica Biel's people talked about it like crazy.
I have a buddy from College. His cousin is a bouncer at one of the popular night clubs in Manhattan. He sees Derek Jeeter going into the club alone and walking out with a different guy each and every night that he has off from Baseball. He also says that the herpes tree is just a sham made up by Steinbrenner to protect the Yankees Heterosexual, All-American image.

[mik3]

I have a buddy from College. His cousin is a bouncer at one of the popular night clubs in Manhattan. He sees Derek Jeeter going into the club alone and walking out with a different guy each and every night that he has off from Baseball. He also says that the herpes tree is just a sham made up by Steinbrenner to protect the Yankees Heterosexual, All-American image.
I've thought Jeter was gay for ages and that all these famous chicks he's been seen with are just a PR move. He's 32, not married, never had any sort of serious relationship with these famous girls.

And his hair style is faaaaabulous.

[BleedingAsshole]

I've thought Jeter was gay for ages and that all these famous chicks he's been seen with are just a PR move. He's 32, not married, never had any sort of serious relationship with these famous girls.

And his hair style is faaaaabulous.


And he's within arms-reach of "All The Way A-Rod" when playing in the field:)

Face it yankee fans.........even if you win, you're still doing it with a group of guys who would rather give each other a reach-around, than give each other a pat on the ass.

No one looks as clean-cut as A-Rod and Jeter, without digesting at least a pint of semen a week:D

[fuckwit]

so by bostons logic you cant even beat queers at baseball?

[TreeFortRichard]

http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/244/jeterherpestree1bk3.jpg

I fixed it :)

oh, and as much as I would love to believe the Jeeter night club thingy...why has there NEVER been a single picture of him w/ a guy, or a story...? If he is hooking up with guys one of them is going to talk....

[mik3]

Buchholz = shut down

[norton23]

Magic Number=1
:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

Ortiz is on FIRE!!!!! Dice-K looked good, a little shaky but he gets out of the small jams nicely.

[GDRC]

AL East Champs!

[Steam]

And he's within arms-reach of "All The Way A-Rod" when playing in the field:)

Face it yankee fans.........even if you win, you're still doing it with a group of guys who would rather give each other a reach-around, than give each other a pat on the ass.

No one looks as clean-cut as A-Rod and Jeter, without digesting at least a pint of semen a week:D

Dude, you are a fan of a team whose rallying cry was "Cowboy Up!".

[TreeFortRichard]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOT


I was sitting on the couch in my redsox shirt eating my hood redsox peanut butter nation ice cream watching the redsox watch the orioles beat the yankees and the 2007 REDSOX are the AL east champs!....11 wins to go!



RE: mora's bunt...It was a great move, the orioles had speed on the bases, and the yanks were playing deep. Hat's to mora...A guy who never has to buy a drink in boston again, and believe me the orioles got a shot of joy out of killing the yankees chances

[Cybouncer]

Great win tonight but they need to play a hell of a lot better next week than they have for the last couple.

[norton23]

The Boston Red Sox 2007 AL EAST CHAMPIONS!!!!!:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap: :clap::clap::clap::clap:

[norton23]

A strong Matsuzaka is right on the money



By Daniel Malloy, Globe Correspondent | September 29, 2007
The Great $103 Million Experiment seemed to be hitting a snag. In seven starts before last night, Daisuke Matsuzaka was 1-4 with an 8.15 ERA.
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Fatigue appeared to be setting in, with the longer season and shorter rest in the United States used as potential reasons for the Japanese righthander's slide.
But in his last start before his first major league postseason, Matsuzaka gave a command performance. Allowing just two runs on six hits, he went eight strong innings - and 119 pitches - still throwing 95 miles per hour in the eighth as the Red Sox beat the Twins, 5-2, at Fenway Park on the way to securing the American League East title.
Matsuzaka had said during his rough patch that he was not tired. Last night he showed it.
"When I was pitching in Japan, that was a typical situation that I would face going deep into the game, so in that sense, it has always been what is expected of me," Matsuzaka said through his translator.
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"But now that I stand here at the end of the season, this is the type of game that I wanted to have, and in that sense, I am very happy."
His team was happy, too, with Matsuzaka (15-12) looking like a strong No. 2 starter for the postseason, and his outing helping to lock up the Sox' first division title since 1995.
Manager Terry Francona, who never doubted Matsuzaka would go out for the eighth after throwing 105 pitches, acknowledged that such a performance was critical.
"I can spin it any way you want, and I will," Francona said. "But that was great to see."
Matsuzaka had his trademark movement on every pitch, confounding the Minnesota batters to register eight strikeouts. With the exception of a seventh-inning home run to dead center by Justin Morneau that Jacoby Ellsbury could only watch sail into the stands, Matsuzaka allowed few hard-hit balls.
"[He had] a lot of definition on his pitches; I liked the shape of his pitches," Francona said. "Fastball had a good angle with some life and offspeed pitches some differential . . . giving the hitters a lot of different looks."
Twins manager Ron Gardenhire, whose team was facing Matsuzaka for the first time, was impressed with the pitcher's stamina.
"In the eighth inning, he really got after it pretty good," Gardenhire said.
"I think that's when you see a pitcher step up. He's throwing the ball a lot harder in the eighth inning than he was earlier in the game, and he really reared back and let it go. I think he gave them what he wanted."
The end of the regular season offered a chance to reflect on the ups and downs of Matsuzaka's rookie year. From his outstanding start to his trials late in the season, the pitcher impressed the manager with his poise.
"What happened during the course of the year is probably what could have been expected," Francona said.
"Some peaks and valleys. So much newness, so much difference just in the culture and all the things we've talked about since Day 1. But he's handled himself very professionally. He's worked very hard. I think what's most reassuring is his competitiveness and his heart. He's not going to back down. Not to anybody."
Matsuzaka didn't want to reflect, at least not while there was still baseball to be played. But he expressed pride in topping 200 innings and 200 strikeouts - reaching both milestones last night. He became the first rookie to accomplish that feat since Mark Langston and Dwight Gooden in 1984.
"Before the season started, I felt that as long as I kept my place in the rotation and I fulfilled my role as a starter that the 200 innings would be something that I would achieve, so in that sense, I'm a little bit relieved today," Matsuzaka said.
"As for the 200 strikeouts, I feel that's more like a bonus."
About an hour after giving his postgame remarks, Matsuzaka was in the jubilant clubhouse, already soaked with champagne, talking with Japanese reporters when Alex Cora and Dustin Pedroia mounted a sneak attack. The two infielders approached from behind, and each dumped a bottle of Korbel on Matsuzaka's head.
The pitcher laughed, embraced both players, then put his sopping "AL East Champions" hat back on, wearing a wide grin. It was an introduction to yet another distinct custom of American baseball

[shotsup]

The Boston Red Sox 2007 AL EAST CHAMPIONS!!!!!:clap::clap:

**WooHoo**

Beat the :wings3: 's

[norton23]

Game One Wednesday Or Thursday

anybody going to the parade on Monday??

[norton23]

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[Danesy]

Excellent pics Norton.

Thank GOD that's over. Now we just gotta beat the Halos ... and I do believe we can.

Oh and thank you to Mora ... you fuckin' rule dude. Magnificent bunt.

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[Danesy]

Oooooh Got another nice one ....

I am so fuckin' psyched!!! Fuck you Anaheim. :fu: Here we come!

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g49/danessillybitch/papiandpaps.jpg

[Perch1019]

anybody going to the parade on Monday??

There is a parade for winning the AL East title?

[OfficerCornjob]

Is Schilling going to use red food coloring or tomato sauce this season?

[HockeyHelmet]

There is a parade for winning the AL East title?

I was just thinking the same thing?????????

[mik3]

Wait, there's a parade for winning the division?

I guess even their own fans agree with most people that they won't do shit in the playoffs.

[GDRC]

Its not a parade. It is a rally at city hall. The Red Sox always do some type of rally when they make the playoffs.

[FullBallz]

So does every team that makes the plyaoffs. They've been doing it since 2002. It's called "Rally Monday." OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

[Salem]

There is a parade for winning the AL East title?

Is Schilling going to use red food coloring or tomato sauce this season?

Wait, there's a parade for winning the division?

I guess even their own fans agree with most people that they won't do shit in the playoffs.

Jeeez ya know all these guys would be shittin all over us sox fans if it was the Yanks winning it wouldnt ya? But its not so ya gotta TRY and put down the rally huh? TRY all ya want cause your allmighty closer blew it again against friggin Baltimore. Consentrate on your own team in the playoffs. From what it looks like your million dollar savior clemens might not even pitch vs cleveland. Good job pissing that money away George. Must be hard to be fans of a team that TRIES to solve all its problems with cash and no talent.:clap: SEE YA IN OCTOBER

[mik3]

Must be hard to be fans of a team that TRIES to solve all its problems with cash and no talent.:clap: SEE YA IN OCTOBER
Julio Lugo
Daisuke Matsuzaka
Eric Gagne
JD Drew

[OfficerCornjob]

Julio Lugo
Daisuke Matsuzaka
Eric Gagne
JD Drew

FACE!
Honestly, what do Sox fans think they lure players over with? Candycanes? They throw money around even more irresponsibly. Gagne is a stud out of the pen. The Yankees have some of the best young talent in the league, both on the big club, and in the system.

[Cybouncer]

Julio Lugo
Daisuke Matsuzaka
Eric Gagne
JD Drew

I wish Sox fans would stop using that line.:hamm: We're the last ones who should be talking about "Buying" players...

On another note, Yankee fans who are saying things like...
Is Schilling going to use red food coloring or tomato sauce this season? Are pretty much Douchebags.

[TreeFortRichard]

I love the criticism of the rally...Yanks fans are just jealous that if they have a rally with in 2 miles of their stadium they get knifed...

[Salem]

Julio Lugo
Daisuke Matsuzaka
Eric Gagne
JD Drew

eh hem....where do I begin....

2007
NYY-195,229,045
BOS-143,123,714
Diff- 52,105,331

Id say thats significant wouldnt you? But of course Yankee fans will make some lame ass excuse how 50+ mill really doesnt make that much of a difference. OK so lets go to the tale fo the tape...

Arod -27,708,525
Giambi - 23,428,571
Jeter - 21,600,000

And the Sox are paying.....NOBODY over 20 mill.

NYY has 11 players at $10 mill and over and the Sox have 5. Dice-K makes 6.3 Mill by the way. Not nearly the killing that Pavano ($10 mill) screws the Yanks out of every year. Odd how you rarely hear anything about him huh? But you always hear about Drew dont ya? AT LEAST HES ON THE FIELD!

Gange blows games for $6 mill. Or we could pay Rivera $10,500,000 to blow games to Baltimore. Kinda looks like we got a deal after all.

So comapring Bos to NYY on payroll status "They throw money around even more irresponsibly" doesnt make sense. Being a yankees fan why would you even dare to compare the $$$ bewteen 2 clubs? Like its not well known across the league NYY has the higest payroll by far. Yes $50+ mill is far.

Rivera is "Stud out of the pen" with his 3.15 ERA, thats great for a closer! (Pap 1.88)

Lets not even start with wh has the best young talent. Pedroia is in the top 3for ROY this year, Ellsbury will take it next year and our pitchers are the most sought after in the game.

BTW it doesnt matter what Schill uses this year as long as he wins. Thats all we care about.

You have enough to worry about with your staff I dont understand why your so concerned with ours anyways.

George King, of the New York Post, reports New York Yankees manager Joe Torre has said if SP Roger Clemens (hamstring) is healthy, he will start in Game 3 of the ALDS. Torre also said he has not decided yet whether SP Andy Pettitte or SP Chien-Ming Wang will start ALDS Game 1, but he has decided whichever of the two does not start Game 1 will start Game 2 instead. Pettitte struggled Saturday in his tuneup for Game 2 of the divisional series at Cleveland, allowing nine runs and eight hits in five innings. Pettitte gave up two home runs and wasn't sharp at all. He walked three with no strikeouts.
FA FA FA FACE!

[Danesy]

Lets not even start with wh has the best young talent. Pedroia is in the top 3for ROY this year, Ellsbury will take it next year and our pitchers are the most sought after in the game.

FA FA FA FACE!


WOW!!! Great response Salem!! :clap::clap::clap:

I do have to single this out though ... as far as a good young players ... let us not forget Bobby Keilty (sp?) & Jon Lester.

All in all, you nailed it dude. Thank you. :D

[fuckwit]

eh hem....where do I begin....

2007
NYY-195,229,045
BOS-143,123,714
Diff- 52,105,331

Id say thats significant wouldnt you? But of course Yankee fans will make some lame ass excuse how 50+ mill really doesnt make that much of a difference. OK so lets go to the tale fo the tape...



God you guys are such victims. And you enjoy it so much. I wish you miserable luck in the post season in hopes you can all enjoy yet another year of being victims of the overspending Yankees.

What would you say if the third highest spending team in the AL made a tear filled post like this? Angles spend $ 109,251,333

Id say thats significant wouldnt you? But of coarse some Sawx fan will make some lame ass excuse how 34 mill really doesnt make that much of a differenc.....


Rivera is "Stud out of the pen" with his 3.15 ERA, thats great for a closer! (Pap 1.88)

also thats a low blow. Rivera is getting old and have an so so season. check his past stats he blows away 1.88era's

[mik3]

Obviously someone has no idea what they're talking about.

Ellsbury will win ROY next year? lol you mean the same guy that was an average minor league player? Lowrie has a better shot at winning ROY next year but you probably have no idea who he is.

And what pitchers are sought after? There's Buchholz then....garbage.
Lester: Career 4.72era but OMGZ HE WINZ GAMES
Gabbard: Oh wait, nevermind.
2006 first round pick Daniel Bard: A pitcher older than both Kennedy and Joba who put up this line in the minors. 75ip 76h 59er 78bb 47k to a 7.08era in A BALL.
Then there's Masterson who's about as good as Gabbard, but like Gabbard his future is in middle relief.

Bowden's the only real pitcher other than Buchholz worth anything in the system.

And Danesy, Bobby Kielty's 31.

[Danesy]

And Danesy, Bobby Kielty's 31.


BUT he is a rookie. That was all I was sayin'. And he's playing well for us. Considering Manny's going to be shopped around YET AGAIN ... I think that Kielty is pretty good and should be for the next coupla years. I mean same thing with the Phils fans ... Chris Coste is older (I know he's in his 30's) but they LOOOOVE him and want him to be their everyday catcher.

[mik3]

Also, about Pettitte yesterday, since I'm sure you didn't watch the game. He threw nothing but fastballs and curves. He didn't show advance scouts any sliders or cutters, his two main pitches.

And about who has the better young players, you use Pedroia?
Cano and Pedroia are the same age, who would you rather have? The #4 UZR player in all of baseball and probably the second best offensive 2b in all of baseball, or the vanilla midget?

[mik3]

BUT he is a rookie. That was all I was sayin'. And he's playing well for us. Considering Manny's going to be shopped around YET AGAIN ... I think that Kielty is pretty good and should be for the next coupla years. I mean same thing with the Phils fans ... Chris Coste is older (I know he's in his 30's) but they LOOOOVE him and want him to be their everyday catcher.
Kielty's been in the majors since 2001, he was DFA'd by Oakland after hitting .200.

[OfficerCornjob]

Was someone really comparing Gagne to Rivera? because thats just awesome. Sox fans cannot complain about the way any team spends money, sorry.

[Danesy]

Was someone really comparing Gagne to Rivera? because thats just awesome. Sox fans cannot complain about the way any team spends money, sorry.

Gagne was an experiment that failed. We didn't need bullpen help ... at the time we had the best in baseball, he brought that down. I didn't want him, I would rather they went after Dye, but every team makes stupid mistakes ... and he is ours for this year.

EDIT: And yes, Drew was a mistake too ... so we made two. :p

[mik3]

Gagne was an experiment that failed. We didn't need bullpen help ... at the time we had the best in baseball, he brought that down. I didn't want him, I would rather they went after Dye, but every team makes stupid mistakes ... and he is ours for this year.

EDIT: And yes, Drew was a mistake too ... so we made two. :p
And Lugo. And 103mil for Matsuzaka.

Gagne's much more than an experiment though. It cost three players. One of which was a pretty good starting pticher, one of which was a 4th OFer who really has about the same ceiling as Ellsbury, and the other was a SEVENTEEN year old who was the #2 international signing in 2006.

Beltre is the reason you don't do this deal, Beltre finished the year in A ball and might start next year as a 17 year old in high A. He's said to be the hispanic Barry Bonds. You don't just trade that.

[Danesy]

And Lugo. And 103mil for Matsuzaka.

Gagne's much more than an experiment though. It cost three players. One of which was a pretty good starting pticher, one of which was a 4th OFer who really has about the same ceiling as Ellsbury, and the other was a SEVENTEEN year old who was the #2 international signing in 2006.

Beltre is the reason you don't do this deal, Beltre finished the year in A ball and might start next year as a 17 year old in high A. He's said to be the hispanic Barry Bonds. You don't just trade that.

I don't think that DiceK was a mistake. He didn't come out of the gate as expected ... but I wouldn't classify that as a mistake ... YET! If for no other reason but we also wound up with Okijima because of it .... then on the flip side Boras FORCED us to take Drew ... so there's an upside and a downside.

Trust me ... I am so with you on this one ... Gagne was a huge failure and a mistake. I think that Dye would have been a much better get ... although it would have only been for one year, and mortgaging your future for a guy that will only be there for one year really isn't that smart.

[mik3]

They probably would have had to have traded Delcarmen/Gabbard/Murphy for Dye. And Dye probably still would have gone back to Chicago 'cause Ozzie has all those guys brainwashed.

[Kajonez]

Ellsbury will win ROY next year? lol you mean the same guy that was an average minor league player? Lowrie has a better shot at winning ROY next year but you probably have no idea who he is.


You are right, I'm sure none of us know who Jed lowrie is. Thanks for setting us straight. What on earth would we do without the all knowing Yankee fans to keep us in line.

And BTW, I thought the Yankees only celebrated World Series wins. Did i miss it this year? I could have sworn I saw them whooping it up. And if they do happen to win it all, will it count? I seem to recall a good number of Yankee fans saying the Sox win didn't count because they were the wild card.

[Salem]

Also, about Pettitte yesterday, since I'm sure you didn't watch the game. He threw nothing but fastballs and curves. He didn't show advance scouts any sliders or cutters, his two main pitches.

And about who has the better young players, you use Pedroia?
Cano and Pedroia are the same age, who would you rather have? The #4 UZR player in all of baseball and probably the second best offensive 2b in all of baseball, or the vanilla midget?

Ummm lemme get this straight, he went out there and threw what? And for what? The scouts dont have ANY tape on the 215.1 innings he pitched this year right? Torre said "Hey why dont ya go out there and toss 8 earned run on ya avg for the hell of it" and Andy said "Anythin for the team coach!" Ok. Didnt think so. :huh:

Ya I used Perdroia, again gonna finish top3 in ROY if not win it. And its a bad thing that hes white? Umm that probly a really stupid fight to pick especially on this board.

[norton23]

jeez I go away for the weekend, and the Yankee fans are a lil' pissed, I guess I would be to, after all they have won the East every year for a loooong time. Let us celebrate! We get the parade, we get the East championship, WE ARE THE BEST TEAM IN THE AMERICAN LEAGUE, which also gets it's perks, we get to choose when we play, etc, it's the icing on the cake and the league telling us we are the best, go ahead and choose the way you want to do things in the playoffs. On that note;

It's playoff time! The sox played hard all year to get this far and win the east, and have the overall best record in the AL, the yanks killed it in the second half of the season and are ready to go as well,,,,,

So let's get the playoff's going, fuck that other bullshit, the past is the past, LETS GET IT ON ding ding ding NOW is when the true colors come out! This is the time of year that seperates the best from the GREATEST, on that note= GO SOX :clap:

one more thing, to all those people doubting Dice-k, can you please fucking realize where he came from, go back and look at his run support at the beginning for some of his losses too, but understand that he's comming from pitching a career in a different country on a MUCH easier schedule and level, for him to come in here and do what he has is fine by me,,,,I will agree next year if he isn't much better, but for now it's too early to tell.

[weakside]

As an Angels fan let me just say I hope the Opie curse is real.

[norton23]

An angels fan? Never heard of em.'

Here comes the trainwreck= I have a bad feeling about this series right now. (then again I have a bad feeling about the pats tonight, must be the fried dough from the fair yesturday mmmmm fried dough)

This is going to be a tough fucking playoff series,,,,,,oh boy.:(

[Danesy]

This is going to be a tough fucking playoff series,,,,,,oh boy.:(

Yea, I am nervous too. BUT if they play, like I know they can ... we should be fine. The only pitcher they have that scares me is Lackey really.

I need Schill to be Schill & Manny to be Manny .... and my lil Joshy Josh to shut them down.

I also think it's destined for it to be Yanks/Sox YET AGAIN. Even I have to say I am getting sick of them .... :rolleyes:

Oh yea ... and LET'S GO CLEVELAND!!!!!

[mik3]

Wow so,

Game 1: Beckett
Game 2: Matsuzaka
Game 4: Beckett
Game 5: Matsuzaka

[Danesy]

Wow so,

Game 1: Beckett
Game 2: Matsuzaka
Game 4: Beckett
Game 5: Matsuzaka

And the Yanks have ... Wang/Pettite ... so what's your point???

[mik3]

Matsuzaka, ahead of Schilling? Then Matsuzaka pitching game five? I can understand pitching Schilling in Anaheim to try and offset how amazing the angels are at home, but have Matsuzaka pitch game one then and Beckett 2/5.

[Danesy]

Matsuzaka, ahead of Schilling? Then Matsuzaka pitching game five? I can understand pitching Schilling in Anaheim to try and offset how amazing the angels are at home, but have Matsuzaka pitch game one then and Beckett 2/5.

Well Schill is a lil better than a .500 pitcher this season. AND no one ever said that Francona was an intelligent manager.

They won on '04 DESPITE him.

[norton23]

Ortiz= I don't know how many have heard this allready but figured I would throw this into the mix. David Ortiz hates needles, therefore he has simply taken anti-inflamitory meds, the other day he wen't into Franconas office and asked for a cortozone shot. "I woke up this morning and felt GREAT." For the first time all season. Despite the problmens Ortiz has led the majors with on base percentage (.445), finished second in OPS (1,066), and had his highest avearage ever (.332).

Dice-K= COMPLETELY uncertain of how he will do in the playoffs, the fucking guy throws way too many pitches, and is way too tricky for his own good.

Becket= Greatest pitcher on the team he's now part of the Clemens, Pedro, Schilling legend.

Here's the man though= Mike Lowell is the mvp of this sox team, he plays great defense, he provides great offense, knocks in runs, and most inportantly he's the quiet leader of the team. "He provides dignity and leadership in one of the most intense environments in all of sports."

On a side note= I really think putting Dice-K allongside Becket is a mistake. He's not ready, he can't fucking pitch late into games. I think Francon's mentality is that he will somehow shine on some extra rest? I don't know but I think it's a mistake.


any predictions here? I say they win the first two lose the third and win the fourth..............mmmmmmm

[Danesy]

Not happy with Beckett/Dice K either ... I would rather Beckett/Schill.

[mik3]

I've realized why they're doing it. If he goes 4+ then the bullpen has the next day off. If he shits himself in game three then you're in Anaheim with a dead pen.

[Perch1019]

Becket= Greatest pitcher on the team he's now part of the Clemens, Pedro, Schilling legend.


Why dont we let him string together a couple of seasons before you start throwing him into that mix. Its one year. Im sure you can make quite a list of pitchers who had a Cy Young season and then shit the bed the following seasons.

[Sidekick Dave]

Boston is so goddamn lucky to be the AL East Champs right now. People have no idea as to how close we were to be playing golf with the Mets right now. I'm so fortunate to have at least the AL East right now. Anything else that happens from here on is fair game. If Boston can come through in the clutch like they are known for, then they are good to go IMO.

[norton23]

Why dont we let him string together a couple of seasons before you start throwing him into that mix. Its one year. Im sure you can make quite a list of pitchers who had a Cy Young season and then shit the bed the following seasons.


ummmmmmmm he did have a career before Boston;) I also believe it was pretty decent:icon_mrgr

he proved to be one of the best before he got here,,,,this season with him being on our side in the playoff's he can seal it...after all Schilling had a pretty decent career before he came to Boston too :) And he is on the list of pitchers I mentioned.

[fuckwit]

hey wait a minute awwww noooo

what happened to your sweet sig quote norton23?

[Perch1019]

ummmmmmmm he did have a career before Boston;) I also believe it was pretty decent:icon_mrgr

he proved to be one of the best before he got here,,,,this season with him being on our side in the playoff's he can seal it...after all Schilling had a pretty decent career before he came to Boston too :) And he is on the list of pitchers I mentioned.

As a Yankee fan, Im well aware of what Beckett is capable of in the post season. Didnt he have only that one good season before coming to the sox? (03). I dont think hes old enough to be called "one of the best" yet.
What I ment was hes done nothing for the Sox other then this one season and I dont think his name belongs in the list of the other 3 you named. (I dont think Shilling belongs in it either but thats another discussion all together). Pedro and Clemens had long illustrious careers with the Sox and many memorable moments post and regular season. Beckett sucked ass last year and hasnt had a chance to prove him on the big stage.
Im not saying he doesnt have the potential to be in the same list as pedro and clemens but lets see him put together a couple of years as a Red Sox before you induct him into the hall with a "B" on his cap.

[mik3]

Just to be a dick, "Rolling rally" = parade.

And Beckett LOST a game in the 2003 World Series, that's pretty much always ignored when trying to talk up his performance.

[norton23]

BOSTON -- They've both been there at the finish,pitching and winning the ultimate game, while taking their teams to the last step toward a World Series championship.

This time, the Angels' John Lackey and the Red Sox's Josh Beckett will be in charge of the first step of a potential return to the mountain top, in a Game 1 Texas shootout that may play a disproportionate role in determining the eventual survivor of the American League Division Series.
Lackey, the rookie starter and winner of Game 7 against the Giants in 2002, and Beckett, who pitched a shutout for the Marlins at Yankee Stadium in the ensuing fall's conclusive Game 6, will face each other at Fenway Park on Wednesday in the 6:37 p.m. ET opener of the ALDS.
At the end of season-long dominations that led to this, the Red Sox and Angels will open the playoffs in altered states.
Managers Terry Francona of the Red Sox and Mike Scioscia of the Angels are filling out their rosters, mindful of the latitude to take advantage of new rules that allow teams to revise their casts between the Division and Championship Series.
Tim Wakefield, the veteran knuckleballer likely to be rendered ineffective as a long reliever by a sore back, was left off Boston's roster. His place on the 10-man pitching staff went to lefty Jon Lester, while a third catcher (Kevin Cash) was added to the roster.
"We didn't want to put Wake in a situation that wouldn't be fair to him or the team," said Francona, hopeful of being able to return the 17-game winner to his starting rotation before October runs its course.
Scioscia decided to omit Gary Matthews, the sparkling center fielder who tweaked his left knee in the penultimate series of the season. The final decision was made based on Matthews' workout on Tuesday afternoon at Fenway Park, after which he still seemed unlikely to be able to play by Game 2 on Friday. Rookie Reggie Willits steps into Matthews' shoes for the ALDS. Right fielder Vladimir Guerrero (right triceps inflammation) still isn't

[LilJimmyRbinson]

I thought it was so cute you guys had a little pep rally in front of City Hall. Just like the small market team they pretend to be.

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[norton23]

Jelous Yankee fans all over the place, it's like us winning the East was a huge blow to there inflamed $$$$$$ EGOS $$$$$$$$. I'm glad we got under there skin so bad, I mean damn if your gonna come over here and flame us at least win something first :rolleyes:

[Sidekick Dave]

I thought it was so cute you guys had a little pep rally in front of City Hall. Just like the small market team they pretend to be.

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Umm...Aren't you from Rhode Island? Shouldn't you be rocking a Sox cap? And how are we a small market team BTW if we supposedly spend more money than that penny-pinching owner of yours?

BTW, Joba did a good job last night holding down the tribe...







HA!

[norton23]

2-0 sox back to back homers from Ortiz and Manny= Off to the ALCS

[bill333]

Red Sox, fans turning into what they loathe

With the exodus under way and the Angels about to be swept at home, a chant went up behind the visitors' dugout: Bos-ton Red Sox. Bos-ton Red Sox. Such a mantra, this hymn without harmony, didn't come as much of a surprise. After all, America has become a Red Sox Nation, Boston now being baseball's biggest draw.

Rather, what was stunning about the drone, is how much the droners sounded like Yankees fans.
If there really was a Curse, as Red Sox fans like to say, perhaps it came with a codicil: You become what you hate.

With the Yankees now vanquished and leaderless, and their principal owner's faculties in question, the Red Sox can no longer be portrayed with much sympathy. The sentimental underpinnings on which the Red Sox Nation was created owed everything to that team in the Bronx. The Red Sox can be underdogs only in relation to the Yankees.

But now that notion has perished. The Red Sox are the best team in baseball. They should beat the Cleveland Indians and win the World Series without too much difficulty. Still, it's difficult to root for a team that can pay $14 million per to J.D. Drew, who, by the way, won't even start in Game 1 of the ALCS.

According to Opening Day salary figures, the Red Sox began the season as a $143 million enterprise (this excludes the $6 million salary they'd pay a mid-season pickup Eric Gagne). The Indians, by contrast, had a $61 million payroll. That gap — approximately $82 million — is considerably more than the gap between the Red Sox and the Yankees.

The Yankees have committed any number of profligate and mercenary acts (the $28 million prorated salary for Roger Clemens comes first to mind, though Jason Giambi and Carl Pavano are up there, too). Still, a good chunk of the Yankee payroll has gone to proven players who never played for another major league team: Derek Jeter, Mariano Rivera, Jorge Posada, Hideki Matsui and, in years past, Bernie Williams.

The Red Sox, by contrast, have not exactly been models of continuity. Julio Lugo, for example, is their fourth starting shortstop since 2004, when they won the World Series with Orlando Cabrera. Of the 25 players on Boston's World Series roster, only eight remain with the team: Manny Ramirez, David Ortiz, Curt Schilling, Mike Timlin, Jason Varitek, Tim Wakefield, Doug Mirabelli and Kevin Youkilis (who didn't get a World Series at-bat). Of those eight, it bears mention, only two made their big league debuts with Boston.

It's been almost five years since Red Sox president Larry Lucchino labeled the Yankees "The Evil Empire." It was a great line, and sportswriters everywhere remain indebted to him. But let's frame its context. His utterance followed the Yankees' signing of Jose Contreras, a move that once again demonstrated the Empire's capacity for expensive folly. Still, one imagines Lucchino vowing it would never happen again.

In 2007, the Red Sox outbid everyone, including the Yankees, for the rights to Daisuke Matsuzaka. Those rights came at a price of $51 million. And though that figure is not reflected in the Red Sox payroll, it represents almost 84 percent of the Indians' Opening Day roster budget, which was 23rd in the majors. Then again, Cleveland is almost a big market team compared to the Rockies and the Diamondbacks (25th and 26th in payroll at $54 million and $52 million, respectively).

But back to the ALCS, which begins tonight at Fenway Park. Perhaps you shall hear from those venerable voices of Red Sox Nation, Doris Kearns and Stephen King. Or maybe it will be a newcomer, like Kevin Garnett. They will extol the virtues of Boston's baseball team. But what are those, exactly?

Save for a withering owner, the Red Sox are not at all unlike their former nemesis. They are an empire of their own now. And if you rooted for the Red Sox because they weren't the Yankees, aren't you now obligated to root for the Indians?

Do the math. Add the salaries of C.C. Sabathia, Fausto Carmona, Grady Sizemore, Franklin Guttierrez, Jhonny Peralta, Chris Gomez, Rafael Betancourt, Rafael Perez and Ryan Garko.

Now what do you have?

About a half million less than J.D. Drew.

[norton23]

vindication For The Boston Red Sox And There Fans

That's what that is called bill,,,and here's a nice article for you to read as well :)

[norton23]

Every day, I wake up with the same look on my face that George Clooney has when he awakens in his gorgeous Italian villa next to some supermodel, looks around, gathers his bearings, checks out the beauty next to him, smells his own morning breath and thinks to himself, "Oh, yeah, I'm George Clooney." My three favorite teams (the Pats, Red Sox and Celts) have odds of 7-to-5, 6-to-5 and 7-to-1 to win their respective championships. It's an embarrassment of riches. I'm embarrassed. Any Boston sports fan in 2007 feels vindicated as hell (for keeping the faith for 15 unhappy years from October '86 to October '01) and lucky as hell (for everything that's happened since).

here's the full article thank you Bleedingasshole for the link

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/071012&sportCat=nfl

[BleedingAsshole]

Red Sox, fans turning into what they loathe

With the exodus under way and the Angels about to be swept at home, a chant went up behind the visitors' dugout: Bos-ton Red Sox. Bos-ton Red Sox. Such a mantra, this hymn without harmony, didn't come as much of a surprise. After all, America has become a Red Sox Nation, Boston now being baseball's biggest draw.

Rather, what was stunning about the drone, is how much the droners sounded like Yankees fans.
If there really was a Curse, as Red Sox fans like to say, perhaps it came with a codicil: You become what you hate.

With the Yankees now vanquished and leaderless, and their principal owner's faculties in question, the Red Sox can no longer be portrayed with much sympathy. The sentimental underpinnings on which the Red Sox Nation was created owed everything to that team in the Bronx. The Red Sox can be underdogs only in relation to the Yankees.

But now that notion has perished. The Red Sox are the best team in baseball. They should beat the Cleveland Indians and win the World Series without too much difficulty. Still, it's difficult to root for a team that can pay $14 million per to J.D. Drew, who, by the way, won't even start in Game 1 of the ALCS.

According to Opening Day salary figures, the Red Sox began the season as a $143 million enterprise (this excludes the $6 million salary they'd pay a mid-season pickup Eric Gagne). The Indians, by contrast, had a $61 million payroll. That gap — approximately $82 million — is considerably more than the gap between the Red Sox and the Yankees.

The Yankees have committed any number of profligate and mercenary acts (the $28 million prorated salary for Roger Clemens comes first to mind, though Jason Giambi and Carl Pavano are up there, too). Still, a good chunk of the Yankee payroll has gone to proven players who never played for another major league team: Derek Jeter, Mariano Rivera, Jorge Posada, Hideki Matsui and, in years past, Bernie Williams.

The Red Sox, by contrast, have not exactly been models of continuity. Julio Lugo, for example, is their fourth starting shortstop since 2004, when they won the World Series with Orlando Cabrera. Of the 25 players on Boston's World Series roster, only eight remain with the team: Manny Ramirez, David Ortiz, Curt Schilling, Mike Timlin, Jason Varitek, Tim Wakefield, Doug Mirabelli and Kevin Youkilis (who didn't get a World Series at-bat). Of those eight, it bears mention, only two made their big league debuts with Boston.

It's been almost five years since Red Sox president Larry Lucchino labeled the Yankees "The Evil Empire." It was a great line, and sportswriters everywhere remain indebted to him. But let's frame its context. His utterance followed the Yankees' signing of Jose Contreras, a move that once again demonstrated the Empire's capacity for expensive folly. Still, one imagines Lucchino vowing it would never happen again.

In 2007, the Red Sox outbid everyone, including the Yankees, for the rights to Daisuke Matsuzaka. Those rights came at a price of $51 million. And though that figure is not reflected in the Red Sox payroll, it represents almost 84 percent of the Indians' Opening Day roster budget, which was 23rd in the majors. Then again, Cleveland is almost a big market team compared to the Rockies and the Diamondbacks (25th and 26th in payroll at $54 million and $52 million, respectively).

But back to the ALCS, which begins tonight at Fenway Park. Perhaps you shall hear from those venerable voices of Red Sox Nation, Doris Kearns and Stephen King. Or maybe it will be a newcomer, like Kevin Garnett. They will extol the virtues of Boston's baseball team. But what are those, exactly?

Save for a withering owner, the Red Sox are not at all unlike their former nemesis. They are an empire of their own now. And if you rooted for the Red Sox because they weren't the Yankees, aren't you now obligated to root for the Indians?

Do the math. Add the salaries of C.C. Sabathia, Fausto Carmona, Grady Sizemore, Franklin Guttierrez, Jhonny Peralta, Chris Gomez, Rafael Betancourt, Rafael Perez and Ryan Garko.

Now what do you have?

About a half million less than J.D. Drew.

Hmmmm, sounds like a jealous spankee fan to me:icon_roll

[Salem]

Hmmmm, sounds like a jealous spankee fan to me:icon_roll

Ya odd how he forgot to express how badly how the Yanks (spent more than 50 million MORE than the sox in 2007 BTW!!!!) got thier asses handeed to them by them by those thrifty Indians. So Cleve should take Bos in 4 instead right? Cause now they are 50 mill closer to the total pay scale right? Yankees lost. Get over it. Let us enoy our post-season. Not our fault you dont have one.

[bill333]

vindication For The Boston Red Sox And There Fans

That's what that is called bill,,,and here's a nice article for you to read as well :)

That would be "Vindication for the Red Sox and "their" fans, and I honestly don't know what team the writer of the article is a fan of, I just thought it was interesting because of all the crap the owner of the Red Sox ( and no I won't type like an 8 yr old and say DEAD SOX ) came out with the "Evil Empire" yet they are just as guilty as the Yanks, of high spending and the fans finally making a dent in other stadiums, being obnoxious. It comes with winning, enjoy it. Nobody likes a winner and you may soon know what it tastes like to be the hated team, other than by Yankee fans. Seriously, who hates the Devil Rays?
Sports in general is making me sick, with all the high salaries but baseball needs a salary cap soon. I don't know if I can watch it much longer. The NFL and NHL finally got smart, but the fans are still having to pay the price for it.

So sorry, no jealousy here.

[BleedingAsshole]

That would be "Vindication for the Red Sox and "their" fans, and I honestly don't know what team the writer of the article is a fan of, I just thought it was interesting because of all the crap the owner of the Red Sox ( and no I won't type like an 8 yr old and say DEAD SOX ) came out with the "Evil Empire" yet they are just as guilty as the Yanks, of high spending and the fans finally making a dent in other stadiums, being obnoxious. It comes with winning, enjoy it. Nobody likes a winner and you may soon know what it tastes like to be the hated team, other than by Yankee fans. Seriously, who hates the Devil Rays?
Sports in general is making me sick, with all the high salaries but baseball needs a salary cap soon. I don't know if I can watch it much longer. The NFL and NHL finally got smart, but the fans are still having to pay the price for it.

So sorry, no jealousy here.


Because the stanks obviously wanted the ole' Cleveland Steamer.

If it goes to 2-0 tonight, watch out.

[norton23]

THIS mlb team's thread is not over

2007 AMERICAN LEAGUE CHAMPIONS

we are headed to the world series....long thread, long year, but it's not over for the red sox
GO SOX GO!!

[BleedingAsshole]

THIS mlb team's thread is not over

2007 AMERICAN LEAGUE CHAMPIONS

we are headed to the world series....long thread, long year, but it's not over for the red sox
GO SOX GO!!

I agree with this crazy mother fucker right here:clap::clap::clap:

GO SOX

[Garyisajoke]

Seriously, who hates the Devil Rays?


Seriously, who the fuck knows who they are? They're a non-factor and your bringing them up is soiling an otherwise beautiful thread.

You want to know what separates the Red Sox and the Yankees? The Red Sox used all that money to build a team - the Yankees just go and sign any big player on the market and hope it works out. And as long as the Yankees are around, the Sox will never be the most hated team in MLB.

The Buccaneers suck too, by the way.

[Salem]

I thought it was so cute you guys had a little pep rally in front of City Hall. Just like the small market team they pretend to be.

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Hmmm maybe that little pep rally helped after all huh? Maybe the Yanks should have had one themselves.

[norton23]

Congratulations To Our WORLD CHAMPION BOSTON RED SOX:clap::clap::clap::clap:

What a great year for us! Who would of thought that we would win twice in four short years? Who would of thought in April we would still be posting in October WoW!!!!,,,,= we are the true champions. Good job boys, it's not easy being a sox fan on a NY/Jersey message board but we held our own :)

[Jerry1]

Big Congats to the Boston Red Sox!

[SurlyTruckDrivr]

congrats Sox!!!!

[sniper]

YAY SOX!!!!!! Thank you for another fantastic season!!!!

[norton23]

Anybody going to the rally????? THE WORLD SERIES CHAMPION BOSTON RED SOX RALLY:action-sm

[norton23]

...............The Red Sox arrived back home to Boston and Fenway park a little while ago, some of the players are driving out now, others live within walking distance and are walking home with there kids. I love how the fans are giving the players space to walk by and are not hounding them,,,good job fans for allowing the players space.:clap: I almost cringed when I saw a few players with kids on there shoulders walking toward there various apartments and townhouses near fenway and was waiting for them to be hounded= NOTHING,,,fans just moved and cheered.

Sounds like no duck tour this year,,,but a walk by the boston public gardens etc,,

[norton23]

This is great...NESN is showing the 04 season,,,so far it's up to the point where we physically beat the Yankees (tek vs arod etc), and came back to beat them in the game.....now just hit the Nomar Trade

[Salem]

Thanks again Sox! Lookin forward to next year already!!!!

[Sidekick Dave]

I just came back from the parade. There had to be at least half a million people there. Not kidding. It was absolutely nuts. Kids were jumping off of trees. Papplebon was doing his dance. Drop Kick Murphy's kicked ass. Great day had by all.

[norton23]

I just came back from the parade. There had to be at least half a million people there. Not kidding. It was absolutely nuts. Kids were jumping off of trees. Papplebon was doing his dance. Drop Kick Murphy's kicked ass. Great day had by all.


That's cool,,,,Looked great! I hope there ready for round two when the pats do it again!

[norton23]

OVER ONE MILLION SHOW UP!!!!!!!!!!!

10/30/2007 4:30 PM ET
Rolling Rally rumbles through Boston
More than one million fans turn out to salute champion Sox

BOSTON -- From the sunshine that bathed more than a million spectators to the dance-crazy members of the 2007 World Series champion Red Sox, "Rolling Rally II" had its own special flare Tuesday as Boston's baseball champions made their way through an adoring and grateful crowd.

Starting just after noon, leaving in more than 20 "Duck Boats," team officials, executives, players, coaches and staff began a three-mile winding journey that began at Fenway Park and ended near Boston City Hall.
And there were countless moments that captured the euphoria of the team's second World Series title in four seasons.
Unofficial grand marshal Jonathan Papelbon played air guitar with a broom with the "Dropkick Murphys," the group that sang Papelbon's entrance theme "Shipping Up To Boston" every home game at Fenway Park.
Papelbon made good on a promise to perform his special dance several times along the route, with the first time coming in front of the Copley stop on Boston's Green Line subway route, as the "Murphys" performed live behind him.
"This is cool," Papelbon said as he and the group greeted fans inside Fenway before the rally. "This means family to me. Dude, this is pretty unbelievable. For these guys to take me to heart and bring me in, is incredible. We're not going to stop and dance every five minutes but we're going to party one big party at City Hall."
With fans chanting "Re-sign Lowell," one of the more poignant moments came as Jason Varitek took a sign from a fan and held it up on his boat. The sign pleaded to Red Sox ownership to re-sign World Series MVP Mike Lowell, who can become a free agent this offseason.
"I'm looking forward to everything working out," Lowell said. "Like I've said before, I enjoy playing here. This is a good situation for me. I think it would be a good situation for a lot of people. I really don't want to dwell on that right now. I really want to enjoy a parade and this is eight months of hard work as a group we've been going through. We should celebrate today."
Red Sox principal owner John Henry, president/CEO and chairman Tom Werner were among the first to lead the three-mile procession toward City Hall.
Henry said the thrill of a second World Series title had just started to sink in as the parade began.
"I think so," Henry said. "It's been a few hours. The ride back yesterday just brought back feelings of 2004, bringing the trophy back to New England. It was a cold, rainy day. This is just a perfect day in New England. It'll be great for the fans on such a beautiful day."
With Lowell's contract situation on everyone's mind, Henry credited another leader who faced the same situation following the 2004 title run.
"The one person that hasn't gotten enough credit is Jason Varitek," Henry said. "We had the best pitching in the league this year. He's a leader among a group of leaders."
Before the rally, players spoke to a gathering of fans behind the first-base dugout at Fenway for over an hour before getting on the vehicles that would take them on the streets.
"Just to get through this celebration with as much enjoyment as possible," said Sox president/CEO Larry Lucchino of his goal for the day. "It's like different flavors of ice cream. They're all different, but you enjoy them all the same. It's kind of hard to savor the excitement when you're excited and sleep-deprived.
"I just want to enjoy the day because bringing it to the fans is one of the most gratifying things of winning, after all," he added.
Red Sox manager Terry Francona was another team member looking forward to a little shut-eye once everything calms down.
"There's a time for that," Francona said. "Win or lose, you collapse, but this will be a little bit more satisfying. I think the last time, 86 years of a lot of stuff poured out from people. You don't know how fans will ever react. But regardless, this is for the fans and organization and letting them do it together."
An estimated one million fans lined the streets, 15-deep in some areas, for the celebration, which was held under sunny skies and temperatures in the mid-50s.
Curt Schilling and David Ortiz heard the cheers again Tuesday, just like Oct. 2004, when fans waited overnight to stake their spot along the parade route.
"There's nothing in the sports world that matches Red Sox fans and the Red Sox organization," Schilling said. "It's a special, special thing and it's something I'll forever thank God for being a part of."
"I just want people to have fun," Ortiz said. "You [fans] deserve this. This is for you guys. We stayed strong through the whole year. We have a lot of support from the fans. Our fans are the best, so hopefully they enjoy this. They deserve it." Papelbon seemed to sum up the feelings of just about everyone who turned out Tuesday. "I just [want] to go out there and let the hot air out of the balloon, fizzle down and let loose and have fun and just celebrate," Papelbon said. "I think [my teammates] just want to let me experience it on my own. We're going to have a great time. We're going to party out, party out."

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Fresh off winning another World Series title after first reaching the Promised Land in 2004, the Boston Red Sox, perched atop Duck Tour vehicles, parted a red sea of rabid fans who once more packed city streets, from Fenway Park to City Hall, by the thousands to welcome home their conquering heroes.

"[The parade] was incredible," said Boston University College of Arts and Sciences sophomore Kisha Wilson, who watched "The Rolling Rally II" from Copley as the Red Sox streamed by. "It was so amazing to see all these fans coming together, and it was so amazing to see the players were as excited as we were. I was taking pictures of players who were taking pictures of us back. . . . There are really no words to describe it."

Whether hoisting signs, with some calling for the Red Sox to re-sign the World Series Most Valuable Player, third baseman Mike Lowell - and others, true to Boston form, taking the chance to bash the Yankees and their former third baseman, Alex Rodriguez -- or leaning out open office windows to catch the festivities, screaming fans wore their pride on their sleeves for the final team appearance of the magical 2007 season.

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Our CHAMPION= Worth the money you ask? The answer= ARE YOU FUCKING NUTS YES!!!!!!!!! WELL FUCKING WORTH IT!!! WE WIN YOU LOSE GAME OVER! DICE -K comes through! AND IN HIS FIRST YEAR,,,HIS FIRST YEAR IN AMERICA AND PITCHING IN THE BIG LEAGUES IN ONE THE BIGGEST SPORTS TOWN THERE IS HUGE PRESSURE!!!!!! HE WINS WE WIN

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For anyone who was at the parade, one question: WHERE WAS WALLY? I DIDN'T SEE HIM!

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As the Red Sox charter flight groaned to a temporary stop on the runway at Denver International Airport yesterday, the pilot got on the intercom and announced that they were third in line for departure.
A Sox player - perhaps the rambunctious Jonathan Papelbon - yelled out, "We're third in line? We should be first. We're champions."
Once the plane was in the air, first baseman Kevin Youkilis helped clear the air by disposing of a diaper quicker than the Red Sox dispatched the Rockies to win the 2007 World Series. Then he grabbed a pillow, lowered his designer sunglasses, and lied down across the floor of the bulkhead Row 18. He slept past the Mississippi River , until he was bopped on the head by a 2-year-old with an Elmo book.
The Sox had partied hard after winning their eighth straight World Series game Sunday night - Jason Varitek carried David Ortiz on his shoulders - but their flight home was more of a family affair.
The Sox entourage left a Denver hotel yesterday at 8:45 a.m., Mountain Time. Airport security personnel asked third baseman Mike Lowell to put his Series MVP trophy on the table before spreading his arms and legs for the metal detector.

On the plane, team captain Varitek waved his arms the way Tom Brady would to get a Gillette Stadium crowd to be quiet. He wanted his teammates to sit down so they could take off. The world champions wanted to get home.
There were so many children on the flight that Delta provided home plate-sized 64-ounce peanut butter jars. The grown-ups had a choice of fettuccine, steak, halibut, chicken, Reuben or Cuban sandwiches.
Daisuke Matsuzaka wore a T-shirt that said "Hope" and signed a jersey for rookie outfielder Jacoby Ellsbury, who looked like an Ivy League student in a white shirt and glasses.
A relaxed Josh Beckett played with the kids. Manny Ramírez stretched out on some seats in back, his dreadlocks falling into the aisle from under his do-rag.
Sox owner John Henry, president Larry Lucchino, and chairman Tom Werner strolled the aisles like friendly camp counselors. They initially placed the World Series trophy in the first class cabin but shared it with players and staff. The trophy spent most of the 3 1/2-hour flight way in the back of the Delta 767.
Around a makeshift card table were Beckett, Ortiz, Varitek, Kyle Snyder, Manny Delcarmen, and Dustin Pedroia. There lots of cards - and even more money - lying around.
The players ignored the seat belt sign. Curt Schilling, a renowned poker player, played video games throughout much of the flight. His screen saver was already a Schilling family portrait shot on the mound of Coors Field Sunday night.Continued... (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2007/10/30/team_low_key_as_it_flies_high?page=2)
Jon Lester, the happiest young man on the face of the earth, strolled the aisles, the smile never leaving his face. Mike Timlin paraded around with a good-luck charm, a gremlin doll, and went through the aisles with his video camera. Pointing the lens toward the floor and a sleeping, stretched-out Youkilis, he kept the commentary brief. "There's our first baseman," he said.
Everyone ignored a Robin Williams movie and then a Harry Potter movie.
Julio Lugo read the papers, then napped on the shoulder of his wife, Sulky. He was glad for the sweep.
"I'm all beat up from baseball, but this is the greatest, especially coming from so many other teams," he said. "It's indescribable. I've been waiting for this so long. And I love the Boston fans. I appreciate that they stuck with me. They knew I was trying my best day in and day out. I was always hustling."
Tim Wakefield, one of the holdover players from the 2004 championship team, said, "It seems like they are different but they are similar. Both had good chemistry. But a lot of the 2004 team left soon after we won. I think this core will stick together."

Toward the end of the flight, the card game got larger and more serious. Who won?
"I don't know," said Papelbon.
"I don't know," said Big Papi, flashing that walkoff smile. "But I know I did pretty good, man. Real good."
Ortiz lugged the World Series trophy down the stairs of the plane. Lowell used the back stairs for deplaning with his trophy, as Massport employees applauded and posed with players for pictures. Ramírez got a ride from a Massachusetts state trooper on the tarmac. He tried to open the back door, which is reserved for bad guys. A trooper moved in quickly.
"No Manny, you can't go in the back," said the trooper, smiling and opening the front passenger door.
The team piled into buses. Police stopped traffic in the Ted Williams Tunnel and on the Southeast Expressway at 4:50 p.m. to let them pass. People climbed on cars on local streets and held up signs and cell phones. The turnout en route was less than it was in 2004 but the team got a standing ovation from some homeless souls on Melnea Cass Boulevard . On this day, they too were champions.

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i just saw a promo for the Tonight show and Leno has Manny on tonight it looks like

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PAPS on Letterman

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A transcript of Red Sox closer Jonathan Papelbon's appearance on the Late Show with David Letterman on Wednesday night:

Letterman: "Our first guest dominated opposing hitters throughout the postseason and closed out the World Series for the Boston Red Sox. From your World Champion Red Sox, here's Jonathan Papelbon. Jonathan."

(Audience applauds) Papelbon enters stage doing a jig while Paul Shaffer and the CBS Orchestra play ‘Shipping Up to Boston' by the Dropkick Murphys)

Letterman: "How you doing?"

Papelbon: "Very good, very good." (Papelbon sits down)

Letterman: "Nice to see you, thank you very much. I gotta say, I've never seen you pitch in person, but, boy, on television, very impressive piece of work."

Papelbon: "Thank you."

Letterman: "Really nice job." (audience applause) "Take me through the repertoire, what do you have? You've got the fastball."

Papelbon: "Well, I've got the fastball."

Letterman: "Where do you like the fastball, what speed, 95, 98, right in there?"

Papelbon: "95-plus usually works." (audience laughs)

Letterman: "Mm-hmm, all right, okay, the fastball, and you throw that most of the time, is that correct?"

Papelbon: "Most of the time, right."

Letterman: "What's your other pitches?"

Papelbon: "Well, I've got the splitter and now I'm working on a, kind of a slider/cutter in between."

Letterman: "Slider/cutter – ooh, is that legal?"

Papelbon: "No, not yet." (Dave, audience laugh)

Letterman: "Now the splitter is the split-fingered fastball?"

Papelbon: "Correct, yeah."

Letterman: "Now this one moves around, is that right?"

Papelbon: "Well, it just drops. It's kind of like a change-up, but a little bit harder."

Letterman: "And how is that different than a curveball then?"

Papelbon: "Well, a curveball is a downbreaker."

Letterman: "Mm-hmm, mm-hmm." (Dave, audience laugh)

Papelbon: "Now, we've got a heater that's an upbreaker, okay, and then now the split's kind of a side downbreaker."

Letterman: "Have you ever hit against anybody who throws as hard as you throw?"

Papelbon: "Uh, no, I didn't. I was in the hole in the World Series – ‘in the hole' means you're not on deck, next person."

Letterman: "Ready to come up, so you might have had an at-bat."

Papelbon: "Yeah, yeah, but, you know, probably was gonna go deep, so." (Dave, audience laugh)

Letterman: (laughing) "You were probably going to go deep, that's what it looked like to you." (Dave, audience laugh)

Papelbon: "Yeah, but the game – but I had to go pitch."

Letterman: "I see. Now, well, first of all, tell us what you've been doing since you – and the Series, I mean, my gosh, you've got to feel a little sad for the Rockies. I mean, nobody really wants a sweep in the Series, do they? I guess you guys do, right?

Papelbon: "Yeah, we kind of do, yeah." (audience laughs)

Letterman: "Kind of do, yeah, yeah." (audience laughs) "So, from the moment you record the last out – and the last out, they got a hold of it, gave it a pretty good ride, is that right?"

Papelbon: "Yeah, yeah, well, you know, my teammates, they got a – you know, they think every time I come to the game it's easy, and you know, one-two-three, it's out. But it's really not that easy. I've gotta keep them on their toes, you know, so."

Letterman: "Deep fly ball to center."

Papelbon: "Deep fly ball usually does it." (audience, Dave laugh)

Letterman: "So take us now from the moment the out is recorded to tonight. What has the celebration been like. I know you had a parade in Boston."

Papelbon: "Yeah, well, we had a parade, not much sleep, a lot of partying, a lot of drinking."

Letterman: "A lot of dancing?"

Papelbon: "A lot of dancing, you know." (audience laughs) "We had a parade which the entire city of Boston came out to, so."

Letterman: "That's great, yeah."

Papelbon: "You know, and then, you know, other than not sleeping, you know, partying." (audience laughs, applauds)

Letterman: "Now, the only – and I'm no baseball historian – but the only other Major League pitcher that I knew of who danced a lot was Cy Young." (audience laughs) "Now how did you start dancing?"

Papelbon: "Well, you know, the song that I come out to – everybody's got a walk-out song, you know, either to the plate or coming out of the bullpen, and I come out to a song by the Dropkick Murphys called ‘Shipping Up to Boston,' which, obviously, the people in Boston love it."

Letterman: "It's a great song."

Papelbon: "Yeah, it's a great song. It's – you've got a little bit of Irish folk music with some hard rock, which I love both, so why not come out to that."

Letterman: "Exactly. And we've seen you dance now after two or three games. One time, it seemed like you were just wearing your underpants."

Papelbon: "Yeah." (audience laughs) "True, yes, I can't deny that, I can't deny that." (Dave, audience laugh)

Letterman: "And how does that happen?" (audience laughs)

Papelbon: "Well, there's an explanation for that."

Letterman: "Does the manager tap you on the shoulder -- ‘John, go out in your underpants and dance'?" (audience laughs)

Papelbon: "No, well, we were kind of waiting for the Yankees to play the Orioles and we had waited and waited and waited ‘cause our game was done, and we were kind of just messing around in the locker room like we usually do, and I just happened to have on nothing but some underwear and a kid's t-shirt Red Sox uniform jersey, and, you know, that's kind of what I decided to celebrate in, you know what I mean, what I can tell ya?" (audience, Dave laugh)

Letterman: "You raise an interesting point – people here in New York City, if they're New York Yankees fans, by and large despise the Red Sox, by and large despise the Red Sox." (smattering of audience cheers and applause) "And I'm sure that the average Red Sox fan feels the same about the Yankees." (some audience cheers and applause) "Do players also share that emotion? Do you really hate other ballclubs?"

Papelbon: "Well, you know, I think what it is is, um, you know, when we're off the field and we go out to eat and we see, you know, Bonds or Alex Rodriguez at a restaurant, you know, we're cordial and we say, ‘Hey,' and we get along, but I think once you step across those lines, I think hate does enter the equation, because, um – " (audience laughs) " – you know, I mean, you don't want to see those guys in a restaurant and you know, ‘Hey, how you doing?' and you know, ‘You know, oh, you kicked my ass today,' you know? That's not good."

Letterman: "Yeah, that's not good. So there really is that feeling, it's impossible to escape that responsibility as being a Boston Red Sox."

Papelbon: "Yeah, I think you're right, yeah."

Letterman: "When you guys were – who was it you were playing? You were down in the series 3-to-1, who was it, was it Cleveland?"

Papelbon: "The Indians, the Indians, yeah."

Letterman: "The Indians – oh, man, what a series that was, huh."

Papelbon: "Yeah, it was a fun series."

Letterman: "What turned that around because it looked like the team from Cleveland was going to prevail? What happened to turn it around?"

Papelbon: "Well, we had Big Papi, aka David Ortiz, the Large Father, whatever you want to call him." (audience laughs)

Letterman: (laughs) "The Large Father."

Papelbon: "Yeah, uh, whatever you want to call him, it all translates, you know. He kind of got us guys together, just no coaches, no media, no nothing like that, and you know, kind of held a team meeting and said, ‘Hey, guys, look, you know,' and this is quote-unquote David Ortiz." (starts to impersonate Ortiz) "He goes, ‘Hey, guys, I've got to tell you some-sing, if you – '" (audience laughs) "'Some-sing. If you wear a Red Sox uniform jersey, you're a bad _____ _____.'" (audience roars with laughter and applause) "So, hey, that's quote-unquote. Sorry about that." (Papelbon smiles, audience still laughs; audience applauds)

Letterman: "Must have had one of my spells, because…"

Papelbon: "And this is actually coming from a guy, um, not very many people know this, but David Ortiz happens to be a huge Bedazzler." (Dave cracks up laughing, audience laughs) "So, yeah, yeah, see like this jacket right here? He couldn't wear this jacket normally, he'd have to put, like, Bedazzle a Lamborghini in the back, or something like that." (audience laughs)

Letterman: "I see, yeah. So that was it, that got everybody's attention."

Papelbon: "I think it did, yeah." (audience laughs)

Letterman: "Now, does it hurt to throw that hard?"

Papelbon: "Well, no, it doesn't hurt because you get all that adrenaline going, but usually after that adrenaline seems to kind of calm down, you know those nights, it's tough to go to sleep once you get that throb, but, yeah, it does hurt."

Letterman: "Because I noticed, in between innings, you've got your arm wrapped, you're trying to keep it cool."

Papelbon: "Oh, yeah, yeah."

Letterman: "And in terms of th speed, the difference between like a fastball – you said, 95, 98 – what is your off-speed pitch, your change up?"

Papelbon: "88 to 90."

Letterman: "So that really brings a guy right out of his shoes, doesn't it?"

Papelbon: Yeah, hopefully, yeah." (audience laughs)

Letterman: "What about the turmoil with the Boston Red Sox roster? Like, are you going to be in the market for a third baseman?"

Papelbon: "Yeah, you know, I think right now we're just kind of waiting to see what Mike Lowell does. You know, I know – "

Letterman: "What a player that guy is, huh?"

Papelbon: Man, he's a phenomenal guy, he's awesome. You know, MVP and everything, and a great man."

Letterman: "And if he goes someplace, what about Alex Rodriguez? Do you want him to come to Boston?"

Papelbon: "Yeah, well, you know, personally, I would love to have him come on just so I don't have to pitch to him." (audience laughs) "But, you know, I think the fans in Boston might think otherwise. Um, but, you know, obviously we'd like to have Mikey back, that's for sure, but we've got to wait and see what happens."

Letterman: "And if you don't get him and you don't get Alex Rodriguez, can you still win the World Series again? Can you defend successfully?"

Papelbon: "Yeah, you know, I think we can. You know, I think right now Theo and the guys in the front office have put together a team – we've got a lot of young guys coming up, you know. This is not the same Red Sox team that won the championship in '04. We've got a lot of young guys coming up, so."

Letterman: "A whole different deal, whole different style, whole different personnel. And one more question about pitching, because it was so intimidating watching these balls come in and then the replay on the television – do you ever run one right up under a guy like that?" (Dave motions under his chin) "I mean, do you ever get – you know what I mean?" (audience laughs)

Papelbon: "Just like that right there?" (motions under his chin) "Well, you got to, man, because, you know, you've got to let them know who's boss out there, and them guys, they'll dig in on you, man, you've got to get them heaters in, so."

Letterman: "And then afterwards, is it, ‘Yeah, take that sissy.'" (audience laughs)

Papelbon: (laughing) "I don't know if I'll use the word sissy. Um, I might use another word." (Dave, audience laugh)

Letterman: "Yeah, like ‘bedazzler.'" (Papelbon, audience laugh) "Well, listen, hey, enjoy yourself, very entertaining watching you pitch, congratulations."

Papelbon: (shakes Dave's hand) "Thank you, Dave."

Letterman: "Jonathan Papelbon, ladies and gentlemen.”

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Manny on Leno

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