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Aero 1
02-28-2007, 12:25 PM
it still cant do full background downloads because:

On the PS3, when you enter a game, your downloads will be paused and queued up, to be restarted later when you exit back to the XMB. The reason for this is that the PS3 needs extra system resources (primarily memory) to do background downloading, and as such could affect game play.

article: http://www.innerbits.com/blog/2007/02/27/ps3-online-background-downloading-the-sony-way/

the machine must be too busy because its supercomputing the world hunger problems, stupid sony.

discuss.

ruckstande
02-28-2007, 12:28 PM
Wait, you mean it is downloading game data in the background and that's why you can't simultaneously download games?

Garyisajoke
02-28-2007, 12:31 PM
what is this "PS3" you speak of?
oh well, back to my 360.

MrBogey
02-28-2007, 12:32 PM
Sony should have pulled an xbox and released the feature even though it may cause problems with some games and just let the consumers deal with it.

Can't get to the link you posted to see anything else.

TheJew
02-28-2007, 12:36 PM
360 has the same thing...

Aero 1
02-28-2007, 12:38 PM
Sony should have pulled an xbox and released the feature even though it may cause problems with some games and just let the consumers deal with it.

Can't get to the link you posted to see anything else.

thats a good spin, i was wondering how you would come about it. because your right, background downloading has caused and causes constant game problems that sony decided NOT to implement it and just make a technical hurdle excuse to protect their 6 customers. dont take this as a flame, but your a retard.

ruckstande
02-28-2007, 12:38 PM
360 has the same thing...
360 has the same what? My downloads don't stop if I start playing a game.

patbattlefield
02-28-2007, 12:43 PM
love my wii

Aero 1
02-28-2007, 12:43 PM
http://common.ziffdavisinternet.com/util_get_image/14/0,1425,i=146559,00.jpg

:action-sm

http://www.ssgecom.com/products/Images/EMER_X401_l.jpg

DoughBoy
02-28-2007, 12:43 PM
http://common.ziffdavisinternet.com/util_get_image/14/0,1425,i=146559,00.jpg

Build it yourself... pussy!

Teddy
02-28-2007, 12:44 PM
http://common.ziffdavisinternet.com/util_get_image/14/0,1425,i=146559,00.jpg


that case is so fucking ugly

ruckstande
02-28-2007, 12:45 PM
http://common.ziffdavisinternet.com/util_get_image/14/0,1425,i=146559,00.jpg
Play lots of games with Vista on that thing?

MrBogey
02-28-2007, 12:49 PM
because your right, background downloading has caused and causes constant game problems that sony decided NOT to implement it and just make a technical hurdle excuse to protect their 6 customers.

Yea yea... 6 people own the PS3. Why are xbox fanboys as lame as Stern Zombies in their claims?

Especially when you have to spend extra just to get a hard drive to use the background downloading effectively. And a 20GB one at that. Have fun spending another 500$ just to get a fully functional HD box.

dont take this as a flame, but your a retard.

Well you spelled most the words in that sentence correctly. Try not to look stupid while you're calling someone a retard.

DoughBoy
02-28-2007, 12:50 PM
bans will be handed out if this bullshit continues. Take your fanboy asses back to your respective fanboy boards.

MrBogey
02-28-2007, 12:50 PM
http://common.ziffdavisinternet.com/util_get_image/14/0,1425,i=146559,00.jpg

Got a ton of those. My house hums from all the computer components. I just need to get the finishing touches on my HTPC though.

Aero 1
02-28-2007, 12:52 PM
nothing you said justifies your claim about the problems with background downloading. a 20 gig drive has NOTHING to do with this discussion, and it has nothing to do with the reason the PS3 is not able to do what the thing irks you the most can do. you could of just said, "well the xbox is beige and not black! HA!".

to quote a movie:

you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Aero 1
02-28-2007, 12:54 PM
bans will be handed out if this bullshit continues. Take your fanboy asses back to your respective fanboy boards.

didnt see that until after the post, its just a discussion.

DoughBoy
02-28-2007, 12:56 PM
didnt see that until after the post, its just a discussion.

Calling someone a retard is not a discussion, it is member bashing.

TheJew
02-28-2007, 12:57 PM
360 has the same what? My downloads don't stop if I start playing a game.

really? i thought it stops downloading...

http://common.ziffdavisinternet.com/util_get_image/14/0,1425,i=146559,00.jpg

...rich mother fucker :action-sm

MrBogey
02-28-2007, 01:05 PM
The stated reason why the PS3 will not do background downloading while playing games comes not from the "power" of the Cell as you stated but because of the memory architecture. That being it's 2 separate caches shared between each other. Doing background downloading during some games may cause a problem. Sony is not allowing it right now because of cautious programming. Not because the system absolutely wouldn't be able to handle it.

I took your flippant slam of the PS3 and responded back with a back-handed compliment of the 360.

ruckstande
02-28-2007, 01:08 PM
Make fun everyone! This is a screen cap I took in game from Flight sim X.
Smooth as silk and mega fucking detail. Yeah, it won't load Vista but I don't give a shit at this point. ALL my games look and run great.:action-sm
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y28/cloudmax/chicagoext_sized.jpg
There is no denying that it looks better, but fun is fun. Gears of War is the most fun I ever had playing online. Soldiers of Fortune for PC was a shitty looking pc game but that was some of the best fun I ever had playing on a computer. Graphics to me don't make a great game.

DoucheMeister
02-28-2007, 01:31 PM
A few of my 360 games allow back ground downloading, but the majority don't.

Anything with MP capability stops the downloads as soon as I load it, regardless if I am playing online or not.

ruckstande
02-28-2007, 01:32 PM
A few of my 360 games allow back ground downloading, but the majority don't.

Anything with MP capability stops the downloads as soon as I load it, regardless if I am playing online or not.
I bet GOW doesn't let you download because it has that feature where anyone can jump in while you are playing.

DoucheMeister
02-28-2007, 01:34 PM
I bet GOW doesn't let you download because it has that feature where anyone can jump in while you are playing.

Both GOW and R6 suspend the downloads.... those are the only 2 I ever play now.......

But I don't think it's a big deal either way. Unless someone is trying to download content with dialup......

ruckstande
02-28-2007, 01:39 PM
Both GOW and R6 suspend the downloads.... those are the only 2 I ever play now.......

But I don't think it's a big deal either way. Unless someone is trying to download content with dialup......

What is d..d..d..dial.....dialup?

Deadbent
02-28-2007, 01:50 PM
By the way, anyone get a load of Virtua Fighter 5?

I'd love to hear the fanboy defenses of this one. I mean.. How are you going to rationalize the shittiness THIS time?.
It's THE console exclusive fighter, THE fighter to "own" on the console. You can't blame the suckness on it being a port from a different platform.


I mean here we are, a full year after doa4 is released on a rival platform, and the best virtua fighter 5 can give me is 30 fps, and looks that rival a ps2, xb1 or dreamcast fighter?
I hope you like singleplayer modes or having a friend welded to your couch to multiplay with you. Why is there NO ONLINE play? Are you fucking joking me?


Wow. Just wow. And the thing is.. most people are so goddamn stupid they don't even realize these shortcomings, or what they imply. Sony counted on people to say "Well it's ps3 and it's the shit no matter what, so I don't care" and... heh... when it boils down, people usually do say it every time.
They have nothing else to boast about their 600 bucks serving them so well.

I mean, where's "next gen"? Where are fluid, 60 frames per second that make the difference in a "next-gen" fighting game? Why is the framerate in this game no different than a xbox, ps1, dreamcast, game cube or ps2 title? Clearly, with all that computing power under the hood of the ps3... ps3 owners shouldn't have to swallow a mere 30 frames per second on a console exclusive like this.
And if they do, they should be swallowing a cock along side it.

ruckstande
02-28-2007, 02:36 PM
Good point Sir, good point. But, I need both. If a good game looks like shit it bugs me no matter how good the gameplay. Better graphics makes the game more immersive.

Yeah, a game like Half Life 2 wouldn't be nearly as good if it weren't for the graphics. Ravenholm was one of the most intense game levels ever. I still play Command & Conquer 95' though. Graphics look like speckled shit but that game will always be great no matter what.

patbattlefield
02-28-2007, 02:42 PM
Good point Sir, good point. But, I need both. If a good game looks like shit it bugs me no matter how good the gameplay. Better graphics makes the game more immersive.

don't forget the mouse and keyboard for FPS. I can't wait for Live Anywhere to launch for 360 so i can own some little brats on their shitty consoles. it will be great to finally prove the superiority of the PC in shooting games.

ruckstande
02-28-2007, 02:46 PM
don't forget the mouse and keyboard for FPS. I can't wait for Live Anywhere to launch for 360 so i can own some little brats on their shitty consoles. it will be great to finally prove the superiority of the PC in shooting games.
There is no superiority on a level playing field. I understand the point that a mouse and keyboard is much easier to control your player but on a level playing field, console vs. console has no advantage or disadvantage. I think mouse vs. controller is going to be a very unfair advantage especially in rotating your character.

Garyisajoke
02-28-2007, 02:50 PM
I'd like to formally invite WBL to join our Gears match and then have him tell me that console games are complete shit. Since Bob Kelly hasn't accepted our offers, let's take it a step up and invite Willie Mays himself.

I'm with Phafu, online Gears is the most fun I've ever had with a video game. I understand that consoles are the mongoloids of the video game world and maybe I'm half a mongoloid then, but there's something comforting about them. I work on a computer all day writing and editing, I enjoy getting away from it and sitting on my couch in front of my nice HD-TV.

Aaron Burrito
02-28-2007, 03:05 PM
By the way, anyone get a load of Virtua Fighter 5?

I'd love to hear the fanboy defenses of this one. I mean.. How are you going to rationalize the shittiness THIS time?.
It's THE console exclusive fighter, THE fighter to "own" on the console. You can't blame the suckness on it being a port from a different platform.


I mean here we are, a full year after doa4 is released on a rival platform, and the best virtua fighter 5 can give me is 30 fps, and looks that rival a ps2, xb1 or dreamcast fighter?
I hope you like singleplayer modes or having a friend welded to your couch to multiplay with you. Why is there NO ONLINE play? Are you fucking joking me?


Wow. Just wow. And the thing is.. most people are so goddamn stupid they don't even realize these shortcomings, or what they imply. Sony counted on people to say "Well it's ps3 and it's the shit no matter what, so I don't care" and... heh... when it boils down, people usually do say it every time.
They have nothing else to boast about their 600 bucks serving them so well.

I mean, where's "next gen"? Where are fluid, 60 frames per second that make the difference in a "next-gen" fighting game? Why is the framerate in this game no different than a xbox, ps1, dreamcast, game cube or ps2 title? Clearly, with all that computing power under the hood of the ps3... ps3 owners shouldn't have to swallow a mere 30 frames per second on a console exclusive like this.
And if they do, they should be swallowing a cock along side it.

Yeah it really sucks.:icon_roll

IGN review 8.8 (http://http://ps3.ign.com/articles/765/765805p1.html)

Gamespot 8.1 (http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/virtuafighter5/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssummary)

Neither review mentioned anything about frame rates.

LZMF1
02-28-2007, 03:09 PM
i bought VF 5 and i like it. that's all i need to know.
i have the 360....like that too.
i also have the wii. it has its moments. i like it but not as much as the 360 or the PS3(that may change as soon as they release some online games for it)

Bill Lehecka
02-28-2007, 03:14 PM
http://common.ziffdavisinternet.com/util_get_image/14/0,1425,i=146559,00.jpg

Computers are for faggots. I suggest you buy Abacuses and REAP the benefits.

Bill Lehecka
02-28-2007, 03:16 PM
Good point Sir, good point. But, I need both. If a good game looks like shit it bugs me no matter how good the gameplay. Better graphics makes the game more immersive.

Have you seen Gears? Pretty impressive for a console.

WaddleDoodle
02-28-2007, 03:26 PM
There is no denying that it looks better, but fun is fun. Gears of War is the most fun I ever had playing online. Soldiers of Fortune for PC was a shitty looking pc game but that was some of the best fun I ever had playing on a computer. Graphics to me don't make a great game.

True. I was tunneling through the series of tubes when I came across a game from '96. Escape Velocity, for the Mac (Don't worry, they make a Windows version). Still as fun as it was back then, even if the graphics are......not so good.

KneeKnee
02-28-2007, 03:31 PM
Computers are for porn. PS3 is for gaming.

:action-sm

Garyisajoke
02-28-2007, 03:47 PM
Computers are for faggots. I suggest you buy Abacuses and REAP the benefits.

Is that Board Room Bill over there?

Plunkies
02-28-2007, 04:42 PM
Yeah, a game like Half Life 2 wouldn't be nearly as good if it weren't for the graphics. Ravenholm was one of the most intense game levels ever.

Nah it wasn't the graphics that made Half Life 2, it was the physics. Holy shit when the fuck does the next episode come out anyway? Fuckin dying to play Team Fortress 2... :(

Computers are for porn. PS3 is for gaming.

Hrm. Interesting. From what I hear the 360 and Wii are for gaming and the ps3 is for sitting on shelves and/or overheating.

wes mantooth
02-28-2007, 05:11 PM
I prefer playing games on my 360 over my PC because it's less of a strain on me physically. I don't know if it's the distance from the screen or what but I feel 3 times more spent playing a PC game for hours on end than I do my 360.


.

TreeFortRichard
02-28-2007, 05:26 PM
I'd like to formally invite WBL to join our Gears match and then have him tell me that console games are .
Great now you've chased him away....We can't even get him over to www.pestgaming.com

Garyisajoke
02-28-2007, 05:28 PM
Great now you've chased him away....We can't even get him over to www.pestgaming.com

I think if Ant is up for having listeners at his house playing poker, he'd be just fine throwing on a headset and playing games online with us - except we'd all be shy and not say anything... or go the other way and be retarded trying to make him laugh. Sorry.

patbattlefield
02-28-2007, 05:32 PM
Great now you've chased him away....We can't even get him over to www.pestgaming.com

I'm going to buy Smurry a 360 a bottle of scotch and a copy of Gears of War.

BlackNinja
02-28-2007, 05:37 PM
as little as ps3 has to offer right now, the 360 also does not continue downloads, when you sign into xbox live compatible games

i wish i had the funds to continually upgrade pc hardware as it becomes necessary with the ever demanding new games. ill just stick to console games until i can afford it.

mendozathejew
02-28-2007, 05:52 PM
soldier of fortune was the shit. why didnt they ever come up with a 3rd. the second was pretty good for multiplayer for a while

J. PETERSON
02-28-2007, 06:04 PM
Make fun everyone! This is a screen cap I took in game from Flight sim X.
Smooth as silk and mega fucking detail. Yeah, it won't load Vista but I don't give a shit at this point. ALL my games look and run great.:action-sm
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y28/cloudmax/chicagoext_sized.jpg
holy shit that looks slick.

My only experience with flight simulation comes in the form of trying to land planes on the streets of San Andreas.

CJ MOTHAFUCKA

Cage
02-28-2007, 06:29 PM
Wow that screen shot looks amazing.

DoughBoy
02-28-2007, 06:32 PM
Hey ant, you play any BF2 or 2142?

WhiteHonkyDevil
02-28-2007, 06:52 PM
holy shit that looks slick.

My only experience with flight simulation comes in the form of trying to land planes on the streets of San Andreas.

CJ MOTHAFUCKA

Shit, I never even got that far in the game. My only flight simulation experiences were an old retired USAF instruments-only flight simulator in high school, and Microsoft Flight Simulator for my Commodore 128.

Meh. Graphics. I played Punch-Out on my NES last night. It was FUN, and that's what mattered.

That screen cap is pretty damned cool, though.

J. PETERSON
02-28-2007, 08:09 PM
Shit, I never even got that far in the game.
Once i found out all the fun i could have jumping out of planes and landing them wherever the fuck I wanted, i kind of lost interest in the missions.

Just thought I'd break this one out. It's the ol' Fly the Corporate Jet Under the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge Gag. This move is FAA frowned upon.:icon_sad:
how about a barrell roll into a park in the middle of day?
Ant, what game is that again?

MrBogey
02-28-2007, 08:14 PM
In GTA:SA I got about 90-something percent done before I stopped playing. Learning to fly the Harrier without slamming it into the ground isn't very easy.

magnus420
02-28-2007, 08:38 PM
I'm going to buy Smurry a 360 a bottle of scotch and a copy of Gears of War.

oh god i hope you do, then we can hopefully keep him the fuck out of our teamspeak channel.

jesus i want that kid dead.

Warfarer
02-28-2007, 10:59 PM
Just thought I'd break this one out. It's the ol' Fly the Corporate Jet Under the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge Gag. This move is FAA frowned upon.:icon_sad:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y28/cloudmax/verizanounder.jpg

Man does that look fun but I prefer watching paint dry myself...

smurray06
03-01-2007, 04:03 AM
I'm with Phafu, online Gears is the most fun I've ever had with a video game. I understand that consoles are the mongoloids of the video game world and maybe I'm half a mongoloid then, but there's something comforting about them. I work on a computer all day writing and editing, I enjoy getting away from it and sitting on my couch in front of my nice HD-TV.
I'm guessing thats cause you play with people you know, atleast through the message board, maybe not though don't know. i play at pestgaming and stick to playing with people from the board, and when i play alone it just isn't as fun.


I'm going to buy Smurry a 360 a bottle of scotch and a copy of Gears of War.
and I'll make it easy for you i have 360 so spend the rest on vodka:icon_wink

patbattlefield
03-01-2007, 10:12 AM
and I'll make it easy for you i have 360 so spend the rest on vodka:icon_wink

i want a youtube video of that.:icon_mrgr

smurray06
03-01-2007, 10:36 AM
i want a youtube video of that.:icon_mrgr
you supply it, I'll tape it:icon_mrgr

GoodDaySir
03-01-2007, 03:49 PM
Good point Sir, good point. But, I need both. If a good game looks like shit it bugs me no matter how good the gameplay. Better graphics makes the game more immersive.

Ant, I'd normally agree with that and I like the big time graphics myself. But look at a few of the best selling console games, the GTA series. Those games aren't exactly graphical masterpieces, the draw in can be a bit rough at times, but goddamn if those games aren't insanely fun. I can only imagine what they're going to do with it once it hits the 360 this year.

BIV
03-02-2007, 02:56 AM
There is no denying that it looks better, but fun is fun. Gears of War is the most fun I ever had playing online. Soldiers of Fortune for PC was a shitty looking pc game but that was some of the best fun I ever had playing on a computer. Graphics to me don't make a great game.
Am I the only one who doesn't get the "Fun" of Gears? Lost Planet online is like ten times better.

BravoSierra
03-02-2007, 05:05 AM
Am I the only one who doesn't get the "Fun" of Gears? Lost Planet online is like ten times better.

Same here BIV. R6:Vegas is 100x that stupid game. It's absolute horseshit... you can put 5 shots into a guy, drop him, but a teammate will "finish him" and get credit for it. Fuck that, I'm gonna play ping pong. Yes, ping pong. How can it be so fun?!

ruckstande
03-02-2007, 07:09 AM
Same here BIV. R6:Vegas is 100x that stupid game. It's absolute horseshit... you can put 5 shots into a guy, drop him, but a teammate will "finish him" and get credit for it. Fuck that, I'm gonna play ping pong. Yes, ping pong. How can it be so fun?!
It's points not kills. You may put 5 slugs in a guy and your friend gets credit for a kill but you get "Down" Points. It's still better then R6 in my opinion. It's quick and less tactical.

BIV
03-02-2007, 07:50 AM
It's points not kills. You may put 5 slugs in a guy and your friend gets credit for a kill but you get "Down" Points. It's still better then R6 in my opinion. It's quick and less tactical.

I'm not a fan of R6, or any of the technical shooters. Just not my gig. Gears could be good if people played like the single player, but the way people play it, it's essentially Halo with tiny maps and one extra weapon slot...and gawd aweful grenade mechanics.

Loved the single player, though.

ruckstande
03-02-2007, 07:54 AM
I'm not a fan of R6, or any of the technical shooters. Just not my gig. Gears could be good if people played like the single player, but the way people play it, it's essentially Halo with tiny maps and one extra weapon slot...and gawd aweful grenade mechanics.

Loved the single player, though.
Yeah, the grenade is more luck than skill. Unless your a grenade tagging homo.