the great global warming swindle

[jpc165]

the number 1 viral video

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9005566792811497638


interesting vid. its nice to see some scientific data behind theories rather than spouting out "alleged" truths with gay cartoons used as supporting evidence.

http://www.channel4.com/science/microsites/G/great_global_warming_swindle/index.html

[6DollarDrunk]

good stuff. I can't believe I missed this when you first posted it.

[Cunt Smasher]

Fuck! It's gone.Broken linky.

[6DollarDrunk]

here, try this one


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6IPHmJWmDk

[Ol'BloodyBottom]

Wow!

[nikoloslvy]

thank you.

[ruckstande]

I just watched this and although I do feel that we aren't causing global warming or even if there really is global warning, I really want to see a long explanation from scientists instead of just quick clips from 400 like in this one. Can we have maybe a televised debate or panel from one side or the other so people can hear "THE FACTS". I'm not a climatologist or biologist so I can't debunk any of what these guys say. I'm also not going to do research because I'm not in college. I just want to hear why scientists think we are having an epidemic and why other scientist claim bullshit right in front of me. I'm sorry, but I'm lazy.

[MalibuPJ]

Related reading:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle

[SurlyTruckDrivr]

interesting watch, I'll have to try to see the whole thing, seemed pretty good

[ruckstande]

Related reading:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle
I'm less convinced by any argument than I was before. I'm not sure what to believe.

[tourettesguy]

This shit PISSES me off.

When in history, post-Darwin (real science), have 99% of the world's scientists been wrong about ANYTHING?

Name once.

You can't.

Don't even mention the goddamn global-cooling shit from the 70's, that was a theory that was never peer-reviewed and dismissed quickly. (Hence, it only appeared in the 70's.)

I don't get it, it's like global warming is the EASIEST target to have conspiratorial thoughts about (no race or religion involved). It's almost trendy now.

This shows what simple MARKETING, and the "illusion" of scientific debate can do to real science.

Are you one of those "intelligent design" believers too?

There's another trendy marketing slogan people fuckin' fall for.

Both are fake science.

[Coffee Diva]

Can we have maybe a televised debate or panel from one side or the other so people can hear "THE FACTS".

It wasn't televised, but here's the debate (there's a transcript):

http://www.intelligencesquaredus.org/Event.aspx?Event=12

[Coffee Diva]

When in history, post-Darwin (real science), have 99% of the world's scientists been wrong about ANYTHING?

Scientists and ideas that were overwhelmingly ridiculed at the time:

* Arrhenius (ion chemistry)
* Alfven, Hans (galaxy-scale plasma dynamics)
* Baird, John L. (television camera)
* Bakker, Robert (fast, warm-blooded dinosaurs)
* Chandrasekhar, Subrahmanyan (black holes in 1930)
* Chladni, Ernst (meteorites in 1800)
* Doppler (optical Doppler effect)
* Folk, Robert L. (existence and importance of nanobacteria)
* Galvani (bioelectricity)
* Harvey, William (circulation of blood, 1628)
* Krebs (ATP energy, Krebs cycle)
* Galileo (supported the Copernican viewpoint)
* Gauss, Karl F. (nonEuclidean geometery)
* Binning/Roher/Gimzewski (scanning-tunneling microscope)
* Goddard, Robert (rocket-powered space ships)
* Goethe (Land color theory)
* Gold, Thomas (deep non-biological petroleum deposits)
* Gold, Thomas (deep mine bacteria)
* Lister, J (sterilizing)
* Margulis, Lynn (endosymbiotic organelles)
* Mayer, Julius R. (The Law of Conservation of Energy)
* Marshall, B (ulcers caused by bacteria, helicobacter pylori)
* McClintlock, Barbara (mobile genetic elements, "jumping genes", transposons)
* Newlands, J. (pre-Mendeleev periodic table)
* Nottebohm, F. (neurogenesis: brains can grow neurons)
* Ohm, George S. (Ohm's Law)
* Ovshinsky, Stanford R. (amorphous semiconductor devices)
* Pasteur, Louis (germ theory of disease)
* Prusiner, Stanley (existence of prions, 1982)
* Rous, Peyton (viruses cause cancer)
* Semmelweis, I. (surgeons wash hands, puerperal fever )
* Tesla, Nikola (Earth electrical resonance, "Schumann" resonance)
* Tesla, Nikola (brushless AC motor)
* J H van't Hoff (molecules are 3D)
* Warren, Warren S (flaw in MRI theory)
* Wegener, Alfred (continental drift)
* Wright, Wilbur & Orville (flying machines)
* Zwicky, Fritz (existence of dark matter, 1933)
* Zweig, George (quark theory)


Some ridiculed ideas which had no single supporter:

* Ball lightning (lacking a theory, it was long dismissed as retinal afterimages)
* Catastrophism (ridicule of rapid Earth changes, asteroid mass extinctions)
* Child abuse (before 1950, doctors were mystified by "spontaneous" childhood bruising)
* Cooperation or altruism between animals (versus Evolution's required competition)
* Instantaneous meteor noises (evidence rejected because sound should be delayed by distance)
* Mind-body connection (psychoneuroimmunology, doctors ridiculed any emotional basis for disease)
* Perceptrons (later vindicated as Neural Networks)
* Permanent magnet levitation ("Levitron" shouldn't have worked)

http://amasci.com/weird/vindac.html

"Concepts which have proved useful for ordering things easily assume so great an authority over us, that we forget their terrestrial origin and accept them as unalterable facts. They then become labeled as 'conceptual necessities,' etc. The road of scientific progress is frequently blocked for long periods by such errors." - Einstein