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MJMANDALAY
03-14-2007, 08:19 PM
Saw this article in Sundays paper, I was wondering how true it is?





You've never seen TV like this
Sunday, March 11, 2007

I'm betting you didn't appreciate the full ramifications of the recent news that Verizon is expanding its fiber-optic service and now more than 160 New Jersey towns are wired.

Okay, you understood that makes New Jersey one of the most fiber-optic-wired states in the country and that's good news, since it means higher-speed Internet access.

But it also accelerates our rush toward high-definition television, or HDTV. And this is significant why?

Because as of February 2009, the FCC will require all television signals to be broadcast in high-definition. The analog signals that we've been getting since the dawn of television will disappear. That is to say, two years from now you're going to need High Definition Television whether you want it or not.

Yes, you will be able to buy a converter box so your old analog TV can receive HD signals. But eventually, make no mistake, you're going to have to buy an HDTV. It's not unlike what happened when CDs started to replace vinyl and word processors replaced typewriters. In theory, you didn't have to switch. In reality, it became almost impossible not to. Your favorite artists weren't sold on vinyl. No one repaired typewriters.

Besides, like CDs and computers, HDTV has the powerful lure of being a sleek new toy that offers something better -- in this case, a clearer picture -- and the industry, quite frankly, is confident you'll cave. It's no accident that, as of this month, the FCC is requiring that all new TV sets be HD or at least HD-ready.

So in honor of that milestone, I thought I should warn you what might lie ahead. Now you've probably bought so many TVs in your life that you could do it in your sleep, right? You visit a store, pick one out, load it into your car, take it home, plug it in and turn it on.

Well, those days are over, pal.

Just picking your HDTV practi cally requires an advanced electronics degree. And if you can get the thing working with fewer than three sub-contractors, you're getting away cheap.

First, you've got basic choices. LCD, plasma, rear-projection? Is "HD-ready" acceptable, or should you buy the full HD? What's your preferred DPI (dots per inch)? 720? 1080? Sure, 1080 is high-end now, but will it be middle-end by 2009?

If you have a satellite dish, you'll have to replace it -- plus your signal-converter box. (Enter Service Guy No. 1.)

That also means a new remote, with more indecipherable buttons.

Next there's installation. Unless you're a licensed electrician, you'll pay an hourly fee to the guys who deliver your new purchase. (Enter Service Guy No. 2.)

Then there's location. HDTVs are big and wide. You build rooms around them, not vice versa. (Enter your carpenter -- or Service Guy No. 3.)

Incidentally, you can't eliminate Service Guy No. 3 if you elect to hang the screen on your wall, which -- trust me -- is vastly more complicated than hanging a picture, especially if you don't want unsightly wires running up the wall into your new showpiece. Then come the extras. First, they'll want to sell you a universal remote clicker, I guess so your TV and your toaster oven can run on the same buttons. Then the salesman will strongly advise that you run the sound through your own high-end audio equipment.

Yes, it has its own built-in speakers, but for what you've already paid, do you want merely adequate sound? Enter your electrician -- though your $125-per-hour installers may also be able to handle it.

Wait, there's more.

Once your TV is HD, you'll need a new DVD/video player with digital signals. Sure, your old DVDs will play, but your new HD screen will pick up all their little flaws, the same way your turntable picked up the clicks in your vinyl records.

You'll also want to replace any DVDs and videos not formatted to your new screen shape, which, in fact, may be all of them. Otherwise, every movie or recorded program formatted for your old TV -- which has a 4:3 screen ratio compared to the 16:9 ratio of your new HDTV -- will have white margins down the side. (Just as wide-screen-formatted DVDs and videos appear as compressed horizontal strips on the set you have now.)

Oh, and you know those stun ning nature programs they run in the electronics stores to show you how great HD looks? To order them at home, at least on satellite, will run you an additional $11 a month.

Forewarned is forearmed.

http://www.nj.com/starledger/stories/index.ssf?/base/columns-0/11735922133590.xml&coll=1&thispag

Chino Kapone
03-14-2007, 08:24 PM
hd is soooo much better anyway. i love my tv, and the hd makes a HUGE difference on almost every show.

Sam_Adams
03-14-2007, 08:58 PM
Thats bullshit because people still won't go out and buy HDTVs. They might not be able to pick up analog TV signals but this is the media trying to make this out to be all or nothing.

All of those people with SDTVs will still be able to see shit through cable and Satellite.

krap
03-14-2007, 09:11 PM
They are switching from Analog to Digital, not analog to HDTV. I wish I could get a converter box to make my old RCA that I bought in 1990 broadcast in HD.

circpro
03-14-2007, 09:12 PM
http://www.tvpredictions.com/lcdprice031407.htm

Washington, D.C. (March 14, 2007) -- LCD HDTV prices could drop as much as 35 percent before year's end, according to iSuppli.

The research group predicted yesterday that roughly 75 million LCD sets will be sold this year, a 42 percent increase over last year. iSuppli last year had forecast that only 72.9 million sets would be sold in 2007.

However, the group said dropping prices will drive even more sales of the flat-panel TV. For instance, a $2,000 46-inch LCD HDTV could be priced as low as $1,299 by the holidays.

NoSurviivors
03-14-2007, 09:18 PM
Not all broadcasts will be in HD, however all off air broadcasts will be digital by early 2009. The worst affected will be those who donn't subscribe to a sat, fiber, or cable provider. If you still only watch local TV from an antenna, get a gov't tuner, (dtv.gov) or sub up to basic cable.

If you only have off air reception, and decent high speed internets, don't even bother.

The difference is that the frequencies that your normal channels are boadcast on will be replaced by channels on a different plane. This doesn't mean a thing to you if you already subscribe to a service. I wouldn't let them take a dime from you once this happens.

VHF 40 mhz and up will be relocated to someone else by the FCC. I don't think the FM band in there is going to change...

MrBogey
03-14-2007, 11:54 PM
And FWIW...

ATSC= digital tuning
NTSC= old fashioned analog tuning.

HDTV= 720p,1080i, and 1080p
SDTV= 480i,480p

NTSC only broadcasts 480i
ATSC can broadcast 480p, 720p and 1080i

interlace= 2 images made into 3 (AA:AB:BB)
progressive= single image at a time (AA:BB)

ATSC broadcasts in the UHF spectrum. Don't go buy a new antenna just yet as the old antenna may still work. At worst a directional or hi-gain antenna might be needed. Visit Antennaweb.org for more info.

Cable and satellite users are 100% unaffected by this.

jpc165
03-15-2007, 12:28 AM
i loves my hd

boardsofcanada
03-15-2007, 12:33 AM
I remember a few years ago they said by 2006 they would only have a digital signal to push HDTV's. Well guess what...

Sinn Fein
03-15-2007, 03:09 AM
HDTV.... Check! Got 2 of them.

Verizon FIOS TV Service.... Check! Got that too.

:action-sm

Earth2murf
03-15-2007, 08:53 AM
i have a 55" hdtv....love it..it just pisses me off when games are not on hd

Dr. Hoffman
03-15-2007, 02:01 PM
What a bull shit article.

Digital signal as has been said is NOT necessarily HD. HD TV's are not at all difficult to set up and install. I didn't need any special delivery and set up for mine, in fact, if my TV wasn't so wide I could pick the whole thing up by myself.

TreeFortRichard
03-15-2007, 02:18 PM
Fios HDTV might be halted...

http://www.wackbag.com/showpost.php?p=1661239&postcount=222

sniper
03-15-2007, 03:38 PM
Saw this article in Sundays paper, I was wondering how true it is?

Because as of February 2009, the FCC will require all television signals to be broadcast in high-definition. The analog signals that we've been getting since the dawn of television will disappear. That is to say, two years from now you're going to need High Definition Television whether you want it or not.



And the bullshit starts there. Was this an editorial???
Replace high definition with DIGITAL. And they've already pushed that date back once, don't think they won't do it again. It's just history repeating itself, when you wanted cable way back in the day you NEEDED a box. The same thing is going to happen when the FCC allocates the old analog spectrum for anyone that still has an analog tv. Yesterday's analog TVs will be useless without something to decode the digital signal.
Newer TVs going forward are supposed to be required to have cable card capability to receive the digital channels you subscribe to or the built in ability to decode the standard non-encrypted channels that you can get on a regular cable-ready set today.
As much as I'd love to see everything in HD, I don't think that's going to be conceivable any time soon, it just costs too much in production, and the rinky dink niche channels that are just part of packages can't afford it, hell, even the big local channels can't afford to do it full-time.
Most cable companies in major cities are already doing something called Digital Simulcasting which takes the analog channels and digitally encodes them higher up on the spectrum in frequency but the channel numbers are the same, and the analog channels are still available in the same wire. Which is why, if you have a digital tv/box within an earshot of a regular tv in a simulcast area, there's a delay, due to the digital compression.

FEAR FEAR FEAR!!! The goverment is making you buy an HDTV Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannn! :icon_roll

Bill
03-16-2007, 12:42 AM
ATSC broadcasts in the UHF spectrum.


That part's not necessarily true. ATSC can be broadcast in either the VHF or UHF spectrum. For example, the Hartford CT ABC affiliate (WTNH), which broadcasts their NTSC signal on channel 8, has been assigned channel 10 as their ATSC channel (http://www.wtnh.com/Global/category.asp?C=1545). Most are being broadcast in UHF today because the VHF slots were already taken.

When the analog channels are turned off, most of the stations around the country will be given the choice of which frequency they want to keep. Unless things have changed since I read about this, stations currently broadcasting on channel 2 (and maybe channel 3) will not be given the option because those frequencies are most affected by sun spots. So they want to discontinue the use of those frequencies for TV.

Also, any station currently broadcasting their digital signal on channels 52-69 would have to either use their original channel or a different one after the conversion is completed because those frequencies are going to be auctioned off by the government.

FAZ8218
03-16-2007, 01:42 AM
HDTV.... Check! Got 2 of them.

Verizon FIOS TV Service.... Check! Got that too.

:action-sm
x2!!! :icon_mrgr

NoSurviivors
03-16-2007, 01:58 AM
Oh fer cripes sake..

who here actually uses an off air antenna anyway?

I have my HD set and SD boxen o top of my TVs

Bill
03-16-2007, 02:17 AM
Oh fer cripes sake..

who here actually uses an off air antenna anyway?

I have my HD set and SD boxen o top of my TVs

Many people who have DirecTV use an off air antenna to pick up the local channels that they don't have in HD yet. In some cases, this is because DirecTV hasn't added the channels for that market yet and in other cases, such as those of us in the NYC area that are still using the 3 LNB dish (because we don't want to lose our HD Tivo's) not all of the HD channels, (9, 11, 13, 21) are available.

I was an "early adopter" of HDTV. When I got my first HD box, I only got a couple of channels through DirecTV and got the rest of them using my antenna. After 9/11, most of the NYC broadcast HD channels went away for a while, because they had been broadcasting from the World Trade Center. When that happened, I started getting ABC in HD from Hartford by rotating my antenna to the north instead of to the West.

There are also still people getting their SD signals over the air too. There are a few people that in my office who don't have cable or satellite TV. I also know some people who do have satellite, but have an extra TV that only gets used once in a while, like in the garage or a basement workshop that isn't worth buying a satellite receiver and paying an additional $5 per month for. So, those sets are getting their signals off the air.

Dr. Hoffman
03-16-2007, 01:29 PM
And the bullshit starts there. Was this an editorial???
Replace high definition with DIGITAL. And they've already pushed that date back once, don't think they won't do it again. It's just history repeating itself, when you wanted cable way back in the day you NEEDED a box. The same thing is going to happen when the FCC allocates the old analog spectrum for anyone that still has an analog tv. Yesterday's analog TVs will be useless without something to decode the digital signal.
Newer TVs going forward are supposed to be required to have cable card capability to receive the digital channels you subscribe to or the built in ability to decode the standard non-encrypted channels that you can get on a regular cable-ready set today.
As much as I'd love to see everything in HD, I don't think that's going to be conceivable any time soon, it just costs too much in production, and the rinky dink niche channels that are just part of packages can't afford it, hell, even the big local channels can't afford to do it full-time.
Most cable companies in major cities are already doing something called Digital Simulcasting which takes the analog channels and digitally encodes them higher up on the spectrum in frequency but the channel numbers are the same, and the analog channels are still available in the same wire. Which is why, if you have a digital tv/box within an earshot of a regular tv in a simulcast area, there's a delay, due to the digital compression.

FEAR FEAR FEAR!!! The goverment is making you buy an HDTV Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannn! :icon_roll

And what a lot of people don't understand that a good portion of what you see on the HD stations is nothing but up-ressed Digital and ED signal.